Disastrous result. Not even UK physical+digital combined will be able to make up for the gap between it and XV's physical alone (100k) What went wrong bros?
Disastrous result. Not even UK physical+digital combined will be able to make up for the gap between it and XV's physical alone (100k) What went wrong bros?
It's over
nobody has a PS5
PS5 is outpacing ps4 so not true
ff16 lost
cope
No one cares about XVI, its garbage, XV and Forespoken are worse than it
>ff16 lost
>cope
If it lost why are you making thread after thread?
>ps5 is outpacing ps4
False
>makes more than diablo 4
>physical sales are on the wane in general because we live in a digital age now baby
OP should quit trying to have his own general for claiming FF16 flopped
No I am not going to debate you about FF16's sales you fricking Redditor
Diablo is a PC-centric franchise. Being proud that it outsold that when most people bought the game digitally for the beta/because they're on PC is embarrassing.
anon-domo diablo 3 was on consoles too, "diablo is PC-centric" hasn't been true for most of the past decade
Who cares, compare the sales on D3 on PC to the console versions.
if we want to set the "PC-centric" goalpost FF16 still wins due to not being multiplat
It's not a goalpost idiot, the vast majority of sales were digital on Battle.net. No one gives a shit about D4 on console.
Keep malding, it flopped.
okay so FF16's digital sales are unverifiable and don't matter, diablo 4's digital sales are a known quantity and prove it doesn't matter that FF16 beat it out on consoles
You are so fricking moronic it hurts.
What idiot plays Diablo on consoles?
>makes more than diablo 4
lol
D4 was the fastest selling game Blizzard ever made and the previous record holder was D3 which sold like 3.5m in a single day and has like 30m total copies sold to date. There is no fricking way, absolute 0 chance, this shit is anywhere close to D4.
Go argue with top-seller charts for physical releases, FF16's physical sales trounce D4's physical sales.
“Fastest selling” is a huge red flag, it’s like if you see someone say “shipped”. Nonsense
Yes anon, selling lots of copies is totally bad-bad no-good. Got 'em.
Selling a lot is a good thing, selling “fast” means Jack shit
>we live in a digital age now baby
that's not a good thing
Let me rephrase that: a digital age without SecuROM and with Denuvo being scorned by pretty much every developer/publisher that isn't EA, SEGA, and sometimes Capcom
XVI is bad
XV is worse
Forespoken is complete goyslop trash
Kys Barry
>physical
UK has 9001% digital.
FFXVI is the best selling Final Fantasy game ever.
Oy vey, the UK has a 6000000% digital rate
Six gorrillion very real digital sales
>physical sells
Barry really desperate trying to make this seem important
He's been eating shit ever since that games store he cites as a trusted source reported that FF16 did have a lot of physical preorders. Suddenly it doesn't count now.
>barry actually won
OH NO NO NO FF16SISTERS WE CANT CLING TO GAYMEN JOURNO SCORES ANYMORE!?!
flopspoken lmao
ff16 is worse than anything
LMFAO
>Being beat out by 5 multiplayer games
>Followed up by endless wave of multiplayer games
FF16 is literally the only single player game on that list, Anon.
I don't follow twitch, why is there such a large drop of viewers between January and June?
>That one Anon last thread that said Ramuh was worthless outside of the super attack
Thanks for proving outright how little you actually know of the game's system mechanics.
https://youtu.be/1VbiAwCNCJI
The more people gloat about ff16 flopping the better we will feel when the stats are released...
>there are people who still spam UK boxed charts everytime a game comes out and use it as an indicator of a games success
We've done this same song and dance for years now.
I would not be surprised if the majority of this thread was OP samegayging considering hes already been spamming the board all day.
after brexit who ever thinks the UK has any buying power? Microsoft would even pull activision games out of there, they're so unimportant now.
TOTK was at the same new AAA price point and that sold 7x better. SE has destroyed Final Fantasy
>TOTK was at the same new AAA price point and that sold 7x better. SE has destroyed Final Fantasy
yeah it just means the UK has no purchasing power. They have no ps5s.
No it means Zelda is king and game of the year and FFXVI is pozzed and gayshit.
Anon. You do realize it is #1 in UK, right? The entire point is that despite being #1, it underperformed as frick. Showing #1 & 2 in other nations' PS stores isn't proving anything.
That's what you get for whitewashing European history.
And for gaywashing it
twelve year old mexican boy keeps getting upset about gays and uses his mom's iphone to get around bans
Forty year old man in dress still pretending that homosexuality is normal
Who the frick goes to an anime-themed imageboard and tells everybody how normal they are and how normal they want things to be? That's really fricking weird
Should we tell him
Anime has been normal gay shit for years troony, meanwhile grooming children while you are a man in a dress still repulses 99% of the population
How many stale /misc/ memes can one sentence fit? Let's find out
Wait you're actually some 12 year old zoomer? that's unironically funny.
>What went wrong bros?
XV was so shit that it ruined all future FF reputation
It's a common phenomena that a great prior entry will buoy the next one even if it's worse (RE2R to RE3R) and vice versa, a bad prior entry (FFXV) will sink the next one even if it's not as bad
DMC3 sold less than DMC2. It’s especially bad for FF since 13 was trash too. Basically DMC2 twice in a row
>DMC3 sold less than DMC2
DMCV sold more than DMC
DmC is a shitty reboot. It’s closer to SoP
>well that doesn't count
Nothing ever does when defending XVI.
DMCV was an unboot of a franchise and advertised as a return to form so it quite literally was an entirely different situation
Theres not many times you see a company unboot a series.
I would wager that if it wasn't the CBU3 and XIV team making FF16, the sales would be even worse than it is now
>I would wager that if it wasn't the CBU3 and XIV team making FF16
Funny then that it sold worse than 7remake.
I don't understand how that's funny
FF7R was riding the hype and massive fanbase and nostalgiabait of the original FF7
The situation is not comparable. You'll have to wait until at least Rebirth to see how the reception of Remake affects the sequel's sales
>The situation is not comparable
Oh I see well then see
>comparing MMO playerbase migrating to action RPG is the same as migrating FF7's old fanbase to a direct remake/sequel
Yeah, it's not comparable
I didn't imply because of XIV that XVI should be a success. I implied XVI would do even worse if it was done by the XIV team
Not as bad != great
if it wasn't*
>UK consumers in charge of having any dosh at all
lol
lmao
When you consider most of those games were multiplatform, it's not actually that bad. Notice how Diablo 4 isn't there.
Barry won
Shitposting aside, how does this game flip when games like God of War 2018 and Ragnarok sell a metric frickload to normies?
Sony marketing & bundles of a first party
XIII & XV were atrocious so FF players are wary
6.5 years been XV and XVI meaning new generations of gamers don't know what FF is compared to GoW which had the 2018 release and a recent Ragnarok release
And besides ffviir games with the name of SE behind them have been atrocious, Babylons fail, forspoken, valkiria, avengers, etc. at least with Capcom you know you may have some fun and quality.
SE too, just play most of their Nintendo releases.
Yeah, the 2DHD team is the only one withing their teams having some sort of quality on their releases.
Does it "count" as playing Final Fantasy VII if I play the remastered PS5 version? I've never played any of the Final Fantasy games before.
>top 7
What’s 8, 9 and 10?
WAIT HE'S ACTUALLY 12 HAHAHA.
WAIT “SHES” ACTUALLY A troony HAHAHA
>If I keep yelling troony that will definitely make me not underage
Okay last (You) enjoy solo bumping your thread bud. Don't forget to start schizo posting about axe wounds or whatever.
> This rpg game doesn't need buffs, debuffs, interesting gear, skills, atb, shields, mana, stamina, breakable parts, linked attacks, elemental interactions...
> rpg fans don't buy game
Good that should scare other third parties about being bribed by Sony if a legacy franchise like FF sells like shit
You know the morons in the Squeenix C-suite will gobble any and all money from Sony forevermore to fund their NFT shit
>what went wrong
Edgy revenge tardos are actually a vocal minority. People want uplifting stories not edgegay garbo.
Oops, don't put homosexuals in the game next time (there won't be a next time).
FF14 has gays and that game singlehandedly kept SE afloat for a while, sorry you aren't actually the majority opinion on anything anon
No one likes homosexuals. MMOs are just chatrooms with side games.
All I heard was "gays will kill a game, but it doesn't count when the game is popular and makes money"
No one likes gays, that is the entire point of "pride" you idiot.
It sold more then Diabol 4
They are pandering to a modern audience that does not care about FF. So FF fans don't want the game and non FF don't want the game.
FFXV destroyed a lot of people's trust in Square's single player FF's. People would rather play FFXIV
And also FF7R has sold millions of copies
Forced soullessness.
who buys physical anymore? i thought most ps5s don't even have a disc drive
>TotK sold 130mil copies
>208,000 were UK alone
>Contributes 0.16% of overall sales
If we do the math using only FF16's physical sales (which that 31,000 number only represents), FF16 should be closer slated to sell just over 1.9mil copies based on what we know from the provided numbers thus far.
>TotK sold 130mil copies
You're off by an order of magnitude
You're right, the source I pulled was talking about franchise sales. My mistake
The game is pretty good and I have a lot of fun with it.
Isn't the main issue here that other than being a timed PS5 exclusive, the only physical sales are made by those who have explicitly bought the "PS5 with blu-ray player" version? Those who bought the cheaper version without blu-ray player wouldn't be able to do anything with it, so they just buy it from the PS store directly instead, perhaps they don't even count those silly "code-card-only 'physical' games without a disc" either. This would explain a lot about those results.
No, we know that digital version barely sells and that being generous it would be 40~60% digital so even with digital included it sold less than 15 and 7r physical.
>No, we know that digital version barely sells
We "know" that how?
Sony has low stock of the DE. It's usually around 10 to 20 percent of all PS5 stock.
Mainly because they cant make a profit off of the digital edition, it took a while for the disc to even be in the green and margins for it are pretty poor
They do that to not piss off distributors.
That's one part, the other is not to piss off retailers, since they can't get games sales after. MS has to do some deals with some retailers so they also get a cut of sales from the Series S.
I don't know if Sony did the same, they probably did, but it's better to just stock of the DE low to avoid that.
By that you mean the "code-card-only 'physical' games without a disc" that I mentioned before, right? Or do they actually "limit" the mount of games sold via the PS store directly? Or just ask for an intentionally inflated price there to keep it down?
>UK box copies
>literal who twitter
doesn't PS5 not even have a disc port?
The cheaper model doesn't have a disk drive at all, the more expensive model does.
so not only was it released on half as many consoles as XV
but on a market where the version of the console without the ability to play physical games is cheaper
and it's known that 80% of sales are digital versus 20% physical
the dick measuring is done
with physical sales?
wilful ignorance at best, actual paid anti-shilling at worst
To be fair, that 80% includes software that's ONLY digital with no physical version
It underrepresents the physical share of games that have a physical release
>and it's known that 80% of sales are digital versus 20% physical
If you count shit that you can only buy digitally and phone games and DLC and etc.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>retail
Do console babies really? In 2023?