Final starters that needs fixing

>Blastoise
Their cannons needs to be less circular and more shelly
>Typhlosion
More fire details. Maybe fire sparks or some smoke.
>Emboar
Drop the red pants and hand details. Change belly detail for a protective pad that heats up.
>Samurott
Swords needs to be more shell shaped
>Chesnaght
Make shiny colors the main one. Add more spikes.
>Delphox
Drop the knee details. Full white (or pink) eyes for psychic effect. Red fur needs to be darker.
>Greninja
Change Xs on legs for foam (shurikens are still formed from there)
>Incineroar
Back a bit more crooked. Change gray from torso for red
>Rillaboom
Nothing physical, they just needs to make their drum emerge from the ground after punching on it.
>Cinderace
Black shoulders turns red. Black belt turns yellow. Black part of the legs turns white. Flames on the ankles.
>Inteleon
Nothing physical. Hands charge water by puting a finger in the corner of their eye.
>H-Decidueye
Make shiny colors the main ones
>H-Typhlosion
Having 2 will-o-wisp of their fire floating over their shoulders.
>H-Samurott
Not bipedal attacks. Their arm shells are on their hands making some big claws
>Meowscarada
Mask is made of 4 pointy leaves
>Skelerdirge
Shorter legs and they floats like a ghost.
>Quaquaval
Arms are wings. Battle mode (like Typhlosion) makes their tail a constant fountain.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just know this will eventually become a circlejerk thread

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's no way Feraligatr is that much bigger compared to all of the other Water starters. What the hell?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Feraligatr best overall starter

      Why do swords need those grooves? Most shells don’t really have that.

      its called the fuller, it reduces weight while strengthen the blades integrity.
      it might also surve the same purpose as the grooves in kitchen knifes, that reduce suction when cutting into something, enabling cleaner cuts and helping avoid getting your sword stuck in a homie

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Feraligatr is probably one of the most well accomplished starters in terms of design, it might be a stipulation but I think it being bipedal as well is meant to emulate how gators and crocs sometimes let their lower bodies sink lower into the water, which makes them look like they are standing on their hind limbs.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Feraligatr is 7'7", it's one of the tallest bipedal Pokémon period
      The other Water starters are all around 5-6' tall, but most of them don't stand upright

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      CHADigatr ain't a god damn manlet like basedtoise. Charizard is 4" taller and 12lbs heavier than that stupid fricking turtle.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The one I have is only slightly larger than average and it's much larger than my XXL blastoise and Empoleon

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pen shells are a thing OP

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sword can look shellier than that

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do swords need those grooves? Most shells don’t really have that.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          To not look like a plastic toy

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's the fault of Gens 6-8 models. They actually look like non-plastic shells in gen 9.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              It looks like a toy with textues

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it looks like a sword shaped shell that obviously isn't fake because the texture makes it look like it's made out of shell-material instead of whatever a toy would be made from (plastic like previous gens). No part of it looks toyish any more.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Back a bit more crooked. Change gray from torso for red

    How is it so god damned hard for people to understand Incineroar. It's the leftovers from the explosion of passion, same with its tail being a blasted fuse.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemon having furclothes will always look moronic

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make him Fire/Ground and an actual fricking boar. Frick the humanoid shit. Emboar could have been a cool Boar from Hell but instead they did yet ANOTHER Fire/Fighting

    And the design makes sense considering Sinnoh is supposed to be a cold region. A fire boar that burrows into the ground that keeps itself warm with its own fire.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Sinnoh

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks there's a human that looks anything like Emboar proportion-wise
        >he thinks Emboar is from Sinnoh. This is why I hate when zoomers like this anon only know to parrot old criticisms that died down. I though tschool resumed? Frick off.

        Infernape's so short, he missed her

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks there's a human that looks anything like Emboar proportion-wise
      >he thinks Emboar is from Sinnoh. This is why I hate when zoomers like this anon only know to parrot old criticisms that died down. I though tschool resumed? Frick off.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        faulty greentext, apologies

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        my dad has emboar proportions

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      All of these designs are shit

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Make him an actual Tiger or Panther instead of a humanoid furry. Looks way more intimidating than what we got

      I feel like Emboar and Samurott are two of the most mediocre designs in the series, they don't piss me off like Incineroar, Primarina, the 8 starters, Quaquaval and Meowscarada do but still. Emboar should have been a quadrupedal boar, some gays will b***h to no end that it had to be an anthropomorphic pig because "muh journey to the west", we'd already had Fire/Fighting bipedal starters for 2 generations in a roll by that point, it doesn't help it that it doesn't even look very good to begin with. Samurott just looks super awkward, it's a quadruped that awkwardly flails it's front paws to wield shell swords and all of it's design aspects would point to it being a Fighting type, but instead Emboar got that typing, I feel like these two would be so much better if their stances got switched around and Emboar was made into a Fire/Ground Pokemon while Samurott was Water/Fighting other than could stand on it's hind limbs. I know some people will b***h to no end that.
      >N-NO, Y-YOU'RE N-NOT SUPPOSED TO J-JUST MAKE ANIMALS W-WITH ELEMENTAL F-FEATURES, T-THEY NEED TO R-REAL MONSTERS, Q-QUADRUPEDS A-ARE BORING
      But frankly at this point I think people in general are sick of humanoid starters that are often painfully overdesigned monstrosities that usually fall into the jobmon category as well.

      I really hate Samurotts design. For the longest time I wanted a cool Otter pokemon and Samurotts design failed so hard. I came across this redesign that I really like and made my own version from it (right side) Would have been cool to make Samurott a Giant Fighting Otter (Water/Fighting type)

      I didn't have time to make his back fur white. Also my redesign came out blury for some reason. What do you guys think?

      Art from the same guy as those fake leaks.

      The entirety of the first generation is filled with monstrous animals, it's like [...]
      the other anon brought up, it's why gen 1 has by far the most popular designs in the series to this day, because it does a really good job of mixing the fantastic with the mundane, literally no one is complaining about kaiju type monsters, a lot of people love Pokemon like Aggron, me included, you're consistently getting butthurt over people rightfully getting sick of furgay starters and complaining about them, there's nothing fantastical about getting another Pokemon that looks like a degenerate in an animal costume as has been the case these past few generations, why don't you just plainly admit you're some furgay? Because that's exactly what you are, gamefreak doesn't even need to do basic elemental animals but in fact earlier gen starters are fairly simplistic themselves and still get a lot of love, people love Typhlosion and it's just a fiery badger, people like Meganium and it's a leafy sauropod, these starters still come off as monsters themselves without some bullshit caveat , you don't need to make some hideous furgay bait to make a "monster" or to make something "unique" or "cool", you're just deflecting over and over and over again and walking in circles trying to set "standards" that were never there to begin with, no one outside of furgays and morons would complain if we got a really cool starter that looked like a manticore, gryphon, hydra, hypocampus, Titanis, Ambulocetus or any other manner of monsters or prehistoric creatures that don't look like furbait.
      [...]
      There really is no salvaging the abomination that is Inteleon, I remember having such high hopes for the chameleon at one point, hoping it would turn into a ghostly Nessie or something cool like that, what a fool I was.

      I really like these designs. I came across these for Serperior and thought they were pretty good. Serperior should have been dual type Grass/Dragon.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Right looks like a good mega.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make him an actual Tiger or Panther instead of a humanoid furry. Looks way more intimidating than what we got

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remember satanic brimstone Litten?

      Remember manticore theories?

      Ah, good times

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Soulfur design. Yes that was a chemical pun.

        >Lol just make it a generic elemental animal: the thread
        Every single time. Thank god, you morons aren't in charge.

        >Seething troony fur getting xer bussy railed up over posting pocket monsters that are improvements to the furry slop.

        The croc doesn’t even look like a clown at the end of the day, it was only a forced meme pushed by the meowscarada troons to cover the fact their shillmon is actually based on a clown, and show me one Pokémon that actually resembles the top image above in your strawman image

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >buzzwords galore
          >thinks turning interesting monsters into generic animals makes them "pocket monsters"
          >cries furry when he more than likely faps to Eevelutions anyway
          Kek, Animalgays are pathetic.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Two legs good, Four legs bad

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >buzzwords galore
            Yet used buzzwords
            >thinks turning interesting monsters into generic animals makes them "pocket monsters"
            I guess this is not interestingand not monsterous because its an animal.
            >cries furry when he more than likely faps to Eevelutions anyway.
            Your implying furgays and zoogays arn’t one and the same. eevees can rot in hell for enabling so many autistic furgays who arn’t even trying to hide the fact they are dog frickers.

            I just want grounded designs for animal based pokémon again. I don’t want furryslop. Its fine if the animal is already bipedal like bears, primates, dinosaurs ect. but I want to see more unique designs that arn’t take an animal and slap a type on it like you gays are implying. Theres no suprise that gen 1 gets shilled 24/7 even though it has no furshit pandering like gen 3 with blaziken which was designed to be shit on purpose to meowscarada at gen 9. More pokemon based on kaiju or mythological creatures like manticores will always stand out more than modern pokémon designs.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Yet used buzzwords
              Where?
              >I guess this is not interestingand not monsterous because its an animal.
              Correct. They're not called Pocket Animals.
              >Your implying furgays and zoogays arn’t one and the same. eevees can rot in hell for enabling so many autistic furgays who arn’t even trying to hide the fact they are dog frickers.
              I was never the one who called anything that stands on two feet a "furry". By morons logic, humans are furries.
              >I just want grounded designs for animal based pokémon again.
              Newsflash, there's plenty of them, like Arbok, Hippowdon, Pyroar, Zebstrika, Sandaconda, Oinkologne, Farigiraf, etc.. But you don't actually care about them because they're not a "starter." IN fact, no cares about them, because they're just animal plus element. This is why I hate startergays and the constant need to make every starter as plain as the animal they're inspired by. They're supposed to be rare monsters you can barely find even in the region they debuted in, so their evolutions are going to be unorthodox and apart from regular pokemon. But nope, just get rid of what makes them unique to make them plain and like the ot

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                *like the others.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The entirety of the first generation is filled with monstrous animals, it's like

                >buzzwords galore
                Yet used buzzwords
                >thinks turning interesting monsters into generic animals makes them "pocket monsters"
                I guess this is not interestingand not monsterous because its an animal.
                >cries furry when he more than likely faps to Eevelutions anyway.
                Your implying furgays and zoogays arn’t one and the same. eevees can rot in hell for enabling so many autistic furgays who arn’t even trying to hide the fact they are dog frickers.

                I just want grounded designs for animal based pokémon again. I don’t want furryslop. Its fine if the animal is already bipedal like bears, primates, dinosaurs ect. but I want to see more unique designs that arn’t take an animal and slap a type on it like you gays are implying. Theres no suprise that gen 1 gets shilled 24/7 even though it has no furshit pandering like gen 3 with blaziken which was designed to be shit on purpose to meowscarada at gen 9. More pokemon based on kaiju or mythological creatures like manticores will always stand out more than modern pokémon designs.

                the other anon brought up, it's why gen 1 has by far the most popular designs in the series to this day, because it does a really good job of mixing the fantastic with the mundane, literally no one is complaining about kaiju type monsters, a lot of people love Pokemon like Aggron, me included, you're consistently getting butthurt over people rightfully getting sick of furgay starters and complaining about them, there's nothing fantastical about getting another Pokemon that looks like a degenerate in an animal costume as has been the case these past few generations, why don't you just plainly admit you're some furgay? Because that's exactly what you are, gamefreak doesn't even need to do basic elemental animals but in fact earlier gen starters are fairly simplistic themselves and still get a lot of love, people love Typhlosion and it's just a fiery badger, people like Meganium and it's a leafy sauropod, these starters still come off as monsters themselves without some bullshit caveat , you don't need to make some hideous furgay bait to make a "monster" or to make something "unique" or "cool", you're just deflecting over and over and over again and walking in circles trying to set "standards" that were never there to begin with, no one outside of furgays and morons would complain if we got a really cool starter that looked like a manticore, gryphon, hydra, hypocampus, Titanis, Ambulocetus or any other manner of monsters or prehistoric creatures that don't look like furbait.

                Baxcalibur, Tink, and Inteleon are the only ones in that image that actually suck, and I'm pretty sure atleast one of them is a joke. The lizard is a hard sell and probably unsalvageable as the way it is, and Baxcalibur is a spoof of Godzilla whom looked toyetic itself

                There really is no salvaging the abomination that is Inteleon, I remember having such high hopes for the chameleon at one point, hoping it would turn into a ghostly Nessie or something cool like that, what a fool I was.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The entirety of the first generation is filled with monstrous animals
                so is gen 6
                and 7
                and 8
                and 9

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >so is gen 6
                Only very few animal mon can be described as " monsterous animals. " the rest are just animal with a type slapped on it and of course furbait with the starters with a possible exeption to geninja since it's based on a treefrog and sticks to the treefrog makeup.

                >and 7
                Most animal mon are furbait or animal with a type slapped on it with the few exeptions being the wimpod line, the vikavolt line, oranguru, turtonator, the jangmo-o line and the box art legendaries.
                >and 8
                Same story for animal based mon as gen7 exept there is fewer exeptions and alot of them are just animal with element or furry trash
                >and 9
                That generation wasn't even trying with most of the pokèmon especially the animal ones. almost all of them look like mascots for cereal brands even the non furry ones with like maybe 3-4 exeptions.

                And I don't count regional forms since they are the same fricking pokèmon. People are simply tired of gamefreak's lazyness. no stylization to stand out compared to the animals they are based on as in no unique flare or quirks in the design like being exaggerated in a way where they are actually monsterous like spiker points or rougher shapes in the design or any interesting core design details like a unique shell like slowbro, cannons like blastoise, or anything special that stands out but not so much where it overrides the original animal aspect.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wahhh furgayfurgayfurgayfurgay-
                Not even bothering to finish reading all of that dogshit. Cope, homosexual.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Art from the same guy as those fake leaks.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      We're not getting quadruped starters ever again because you homosexuals don't appreciate when we do get one and pick the fursuit cat instead (its okay when the fursuitmon looks feminine)

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we’re not getting pointlessly bad designs like samurott and skeledirge ever again
        thank frick

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not even the least popular of their trios
          Cope, at least they have a following instead of being forgotten/ignored

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Paldea starters are being carried by Meowscarada porn and recency bias

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >recency bias
              That's true, but you're too harsh on the croc. Its doing fine, Skeledirge didn't score very badly either on the latest poll.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Crochaters here like being obnoxious when in reality the true flop to TPC is the flamboyant duck.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        i wouldn't have permaboxed the croc if its fire actually looked like fire and not hair. then the bald clown memes came in and i just couldn't unsee it

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good, frick quadrupedgays. You guys are the most obnoxious group ever.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    SV's models are generally scaled slightly off, but theres a hand full that are really off that make me seethe. Serperior is portrayed as way smaller in SV than it is in any other media or what it's model's base scaling suggests. Give me my big serpent, frickers.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like Emboar and Samurott are two of the most mediocre designs in the series, they don't piss me off like Incineroar, Primarina, the 8 starters, Quaquaval and Meowscarada do but still. Emboar should have been a quadrupedal boar, some gays will b***h to no end that it had to be an anthropomorphic pig because "muh journey to the west", we'd already had Fire/Fighting bipedal starters for 2 generations in a roll by that point, it doesn't help it that it doesn't even look very good to begin with. Samurott just looks super awkward, it's a quadruped that awkwardly flails it's front paws to wield shell swords and all of it's design aspects would point to it being a Fighting type, but instead Emboar got that typing, I feel like these two would be so much better if their stances got switched around and Emboar was made into a Fire/Ground Pokemon while Samurott was Water/Fighting other than could stand on it's hind limbs. I know some people will b***h to no end that.
    >N-NO, Y-YOU'RE N-NOT SUPPOSED TO J-JUST MAKE ANIMALS W-WITH ELEMENTAL F-FEATURES, T-THEY NEED TO R-REAL MONSTERS, Q-QUADRUPEDS A-ARE BORING
    But frankly at this point I think people in general are sick of humanoid starters that are often painfully overdesigned monstrosities that usually fall into the jobmon category as well.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their current stances goes with the theme of the Unova trio.
      >One loses its limbs
      >One stands up
      >One gets on all fours
      Agreed on their typing though

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If Emboar was Fire/Ground (quad weakness to Samurott lmfao) and Samurott was Water/Fighting, does that mean Serperior just has to make do with mono Grass? It isn't bad to be monotype, but it's definitely missing out like how Sceptile did

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sceptile is probably the worst case of a pure Grass starter, heck I'd argue it suffers even more than Meganium in many areas, because at least Meganium can accomplish it's defensive role with some success, Sceptile doesn't hit hard enough and it's movepool does it no favors, Serperior and Rillaboom by comparison are hard carried by their busted abilities, to the point that them being pure Grass doesn't really harm them too much, hey, at least Emboar would still arguably get Wild Charge and Reckless, in which case it would at least hit Samurott really hard in return.

        >Here's my dogshit handpicked fanart redesigns from some random homosexual off of deviantart
        >Because I say this is the type of fanart you like that means I'm right and everything you say is invalid
        moronation aside, the Calyrex redesign isn't that bad and somewhat salvages that ugly abomination.

        >Lol just make it a generic elemental animal: the thread
        Every single time. Thank god, you morons aren't in charge.

        Another incredibly autistic zoomer who loves to flap his dumb mouth but doesn't bring anything of value to the conversation, many such cases.
        For as much as I dislike Skeledirge's overdone design, it is based on an Spanish/Portuguese monster called Coco, Cuca or Cucu, which is depicted as a reptilian monster, in South America it's typically depicted as a crocodile, hence the inspiration for the entire Fuecoco line, it is by all means a creature based in folklore, a MONSTER you imbecilic Black person, thank frick gamefreak isn't aware of what Brazil did to the Coco myth at least.....

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Fire Ground Emboar with Flare Blitz, Wild Charge, Headlong Rush and HA Reckless
          It's about to get HOG WILD (please tell me this hypothetical emboar would be faster than the original)

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, I'm mostly spitballing, but imagine just switching Emboar's special attack and speed, hogs are surprisingly pretty fricking fast when they go full throttle.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really hate Samurotts design. For the longest time I wanted a cool Otter pokemon and Samurotts design failed so hard. I came across this redesign that I really like and made my own version from it (right side) Would have been cool to make Samurott a Giant Fighting Otter (Water/Fighting type)

    I didn't have time to make his back fur white. Also my redesign came out blury for some reason. What do you guys think?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Floatzel was already a fighting otter. It’s even the ace Pokémon of a wrestler. Samurott is fine

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Floatzel was already a fighting otter.

        Floatzel looks gay and his type is only water. Im talking about an actual Water/Fighting type.

        Samurott is not fine. Having swords he pulls out is stupid

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Still looks redundant when Floatzel can do whatever this otter thing does.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Still looks redundant when Floatzel can do whatever this otter thing does.

        Bullshit, they literally rehashed Ducklett for Gen IX's water started but another otter is a problem. Samurott is an awkward looking motherfricker and it's the one time they should have just went full anthro with it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hisuian looks less fat at least and can probably stand up easier. But Samurott looking like some water dog with its actual in-game size is also kind of endearing. I find myself liking the concepts behind Samurott, even if I do think it should have been used for another line.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          The designer literally admitted that they found a bigger otter boring.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm aware, and that still would have been better than whatever the frick they did with the final design. Everything about Samurott screams artist's block and it shows, I've said this for years.

            What's wrong with Samurott if they just animate it better? Without changing anything about its design, they can make it do what that picture is showing.

            It's not the animations, it's the anatomy. Its 'arms' are too long compared to its legs when it tries to stand upright.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Doesn't look that different from the fanart you posted. You can simply just wait until Unova remakes gives it more imposing artwork and merch.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's wrong with Samurott if they just animate it better? Without changing anything about its design, they can make it do what that picture is showing.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That one is fine, and you fixed the tail somewhat. But I still think the shell looks stupid. Crotchshell, just WHY.
      I love how it keeps the white fur from Oshawott, but this makes Dewott even more pointless, could need a slight Dewott redesign too then

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humanoid starters are here to stay.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest tragedy in the story of Pokemon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Biggest tragedy in the story of Pokemon
        is that every Pokemon isn’t humanoid.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kill your self

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Incineroar isn't a bad design, it just needs the Typhlosion treatment. It just needs proportions that allow it to be visualized both bipedally and and as a quadraped. If its arms were just slightly shorter, it would work as-is.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > It just needs proportions that allow it to be visualized both bipedally and and as a quadraped
      why

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    shiny typhlosion's flames should have it's pokemon Colloseum coloration, and shiny H-Typhlosion should have red flames.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      or at least gen 2 coloration

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >blastoise
    it just needs to look like ken sugimori red and blue artwork
    >feraligatr
    just make it look similar to the original gold and silver sprites
    >samurott
    two. legs.

    the rest and just shit and i dont really care

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    as usual, infernape is perfect and without flaw

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's another thread with a bunch of people who wants to turn pocket monsters into lame cartoon animals
    We already have enough of that lazy shit frick off

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You never let us have fun, Necrozma. but I actually think 3D era pokemon are gimped by their medium in comparison to the 2D veterans.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, its better.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          incineroar and calyrex are genuine, objective improvements
          calyrex no longer looks like a used up ragdoll and like an actual living animal instead and incineroar should not look that much like a man in a fursuit so making him tip-toe around is justified
          I don't mind cinderace having that stance (other changes are kind of shit tho) since in my subjective opinion he looks more dynamic like that, but that's just a preference

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Baxcalibur, Tink, and Inteleon are the only ones in that image that actually suck, and I'm pretty sure atleast one of them is a joke. The lizard is a hard sell and probably unsalvageable as the way it is, and Baxcalibur is a spoof of Godzilla whom looked toyetic itself

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >incineroar and calyrex are genuine, objective improvements
            no they aren't

            >incineroar should not look that much like a man in a fursuit
            why

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          did you draw these yourself, yawnie?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sceptile is probably the worst case of a pure Grass starter, heck I'd argue it suffers even more than Meganium in many areas, because at least Meganium can accomplish it's defensive role with some success, Sceptile doesn't hit hard enough and it's movepool does it no favors, Serperior and Rillaboom by comparison are hard carried by their busted abilities, to the point that them being pure Grass doesn't really harm them too much, hey, at least Emboar would still arguably get Wild Charge and Reckless, in which case it would at least hit Samurott really hard in return.
            [...]
            >Here's my dogshit handpicked fanart redesigns from some random homosexual off of deviantart
            >Because I say this is the type of fanart you like that means I'm right and everything you say is invalid
            moronation aside, the Calyrex redesign isn't that bad and somewhat salvages that ugly abomination.
            [...]
            Another incredibly autistic zoomer who loves to flap his dumb mouth but doesn't bring anything of value to the conversation, many such cases.
            For as much as I dislike Skeledirge's overdone design, it is based on an Spanish/Portuguese monster called Coco, Cuca or Cucu, which is depicted as a reptilian monster, in South America it's typically depicted as a crocodile, hence the inspiration for the entire Fuecoco line, it is by all means a creature based in folklore, a MONSTER you imbecilic Black person, thank frick gamefreak isn't aware of what Brazil did to the Coco myth at least.....

            the incineroar is literally the same design as the post he's responding to

            you're not very smart, are you?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Get back in your fricking ball before I lock you back in the basement

      My only gripe is that offial Calyrex should've been given actual thighs and hips, and THEN he'd be set

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      A nerve of yours really got struck, didn’t it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty normal getting mad at morons being moronic sorry for your shitty animalmons

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's not. Why would anyone get that fricking mad at literal who's?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, it's not.
            Yes it is
            Seeing the morons on this board just makes me extremely disappointed it's legitimately sad knowing these kind of people exist

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sure you can be sad that someone disagrees with you about how pokemon should generally be designed; but mad? That's not normal....

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lol just make it a generic elemental animal: the thread
    Every single time. Thank god, you morons aren't in charge.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot
    >Torterra
    Should be bigger

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    make it taller

    give him his ass fire again

    make the fangs smaller and the face less "piggy"

    make it bipedal

    change the cartoony eyes to Gen1/Toriyama eyes

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    make the scarf isn't part of the tongue

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    remove the drum and make sticks a weapon attached to its back

    make it less girly

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing
    >>H-Typhlosion
    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    completely remove it and make something that puke inducing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Finally. Someone who knows what they are doing

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      >make it less girly
      which is hilarious because there hasn't been a single female Cinderace in any official media, he's always male.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cinderace is also in the shillmon boyband with Zeraora and Greninja.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Mask is made of 4 pointy leaves
    glad I'm not the only one who thinks meowscarada doesn't even look like a grass type. If you changed its light green fur color to white or any other color you would think it's just a pure dark type.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a water starter I don't feel weird about surfing on again

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, HM03 is dead

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Infernape should look like pic related.
    Emboar needs to be redone from scratch. If it really needs to be a wrestler give it a Fire/Ground mud wrestling theme instead.
    Samurott also needs to be redone from scratch. Making it quadruped is the unironically one of the most fricking moronic bafflingly stupid design decisions they've ever made with a Pokemon.
    Chesnaught should have less lankier looking limbs and a shell that covers its face more.
    Inteleon should be more skinny instead of having a moronic looking triangle shaped skinnyfat torso.
    Skeledirge should be bipedal with similar proportions to Krookodile and the clown hair should be removed.

    The rest are fine enough.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're an idiot

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        not an argument

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >everything should me MORE ugly as a solution!
      No

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s more ugly because…uh…I said so
        not an argument

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >my shitty edits are improvements because....well....THEY JUST ARE OKAY?!
          Stop being moronic

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >infernape is an improvement because it looks consistent with previous pokemon instead of a fricking generic animal with a ton of shit plastered on it while also morr clearly communicating it’s a fighting type
            >emboar is an improvement because it’s not repeating the same fricking type a third time in a row, the same theme a second time in a row, gives them a chance to remove the moronic tiny head that’s fused into its chest, the beard that barely looks a beard, and the moronic arm proportions
            >samurott is an improvement because it can actually use its weapons
            >chesnaught is an improvement because it would look more armored and sturdy instead of a weird lanky thing carrying a giant shell
            >inteleon is an improvement because it would look more like a more slick athletic spy instead of having out of place low testosterone incel tier proportions
            >skeledirge is an improvement because it standing up communicates its singing theme more clearly and removing the pointless clown hair makes the already busy design less cluttered

            Now make an actual argument instead of crying like a b***h. I’ll wait.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Counterpoint: Samurott can actually use its weapons right now.
              What you actually meant was: Samurott can't [use its weapons according to rules I've defined in my head]

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Samurott can actually use its weapons right now
                No it can’t.

                >according to rules I've defined in my head
                I didn’t make up the laws of physics.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing in the laws of physics stop Samurott from using it's swords anon. It already does so fine. It just doesn't do so in the humanoid way you seem convinced is the only possible way.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It already does so fine
                Nope.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope.
                Yep.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it can, here's proof: https://youtu.be/CBef75dDeJU?t=50
                >I didn't make up the laws of physics
                Indeed you didn't, neither did you make up how physics works in the pokemon universe. Even if something would be impossible in the real world due to some "laws of physics", it doesn't mean shit since you can't say that the pokemon universe has the same laws.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its literally one seething autist. I don't see any negative reception of Samurott doing iaido compared to Quaquaval's walk animation.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Its literally one seething autist
                One seething autist who badly defends Samurott whenever it (correctly) gets criticized, yeah.

                >so is gen 6
                Only very few animal mon can be described as " monsterous animals. " the rest are just animal with a type slapped on it and of course furbait with the starters with a possible exeption to geninja since it's based on a treefrog and sticks to the treefrog makeup.

                >and 7
                Most animal mon are furbait or animal with a type slapped on it with the few exeptions being the wimpod line, the vikavolt line, oranguru, turtonator, the jangmo-o line and the box art legendaries.
                >and 8
                Same story for animal based mon as gen7 exept there is fewer exeptions and alot of them are just animal with element or furry trash
                >and 9
                That generation wasn't even trying with most of the pokèmon especially the animal ones. almost all of them look like mascots for cereal brands even the non furry ones with like maybe 3-4 exeptions.

                And I don't count regional forms since they are the same fricking pokèmon. People are simply tired of gamefreak's lazyness. no stylization to stand out compared to the animals they are based on as in no unique flare or quirks in the design like being exaggerated in a way where they are actually monsterous like spiker points or rougher shapes in the design or any interesting core design details like a unique shell like slowbro, cannons like blastoise, or anything special that stands out but not so much where it overrides the original animal aspect.

                You’re a moron who doesn’t understand what a monster is.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally points out what works and what doesn't work in animal pokèmon designs by saying it should have a core aspect in it's design without it overidding the animal insperations and brought up examples like slowbro and blastoise.
                >Anon 2 calls anon 1 a moron after he said about what works and doesn't work.
                I don't want to sound brash but Maybe you're the moron anon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally points out what works and what doesn't work in animal pokèmon designs
                And you did it wrong because you don't know what monsters are. Your only real standard is "it's fat therefore it doesn't override the animal inspiration".

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >if I invent someone else’s argument to make them seem moronic, that means they’re moronic!
                No anon. You’re just very moronic.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure feels that way, that guy seems absolutely obsessed with Samurott and criticizes it really stupidly. There is a lot you can say about Samurott, but his tired commentary about how it "can't use its weapons" is objectively factually incorrect.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly what irrefutably should be changed about it is Shell Armor being replaced with Supreme Overlord as its evo line is like Kingambit's(samurai to shogun) but Water

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >about how it "can't use its weapons" is objectively factually incorrect
                Please tell us how Samurott can use its sword against a moving opponent. I'll gladly wait.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Same way IRL bears can use their claws to hunt and kill moving prey. YOURE allowed to lift up a limb and use it to attack while also moving around on your remaining 3 legs.
                and I’m entirely ignoring how Samurott can also stand on two feet like normal if it needs to.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry for the weird caps

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Same way IRL bears can use their claws to hunt and kill moving prey.
                Go on! Tell us how.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                By still being in movement with three legs while attacking with the free hand. This isn’t a problem anon, nor is it the only way Samurott can fight.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > By still being in movement with three legs
                Bears don’t move with three legs. Try again.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                They do when they use their claws to swipe at prey while moving. Are you okay anon? The whole point is that it’s a temporary attack.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They do
                They don’t.

                How do clawed animals attack mobile prey?

                By pouncing and biting.

                Tell me again how Samurott uses its swords against mobile opponents?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they don’t
                They objectively do. You think their claws are moot when running?
                >pouncing
                Aka running while attacking with limbs. Samurott pounces and slashes.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > They objectively do
                They objectively don’t.

                > You think their claws are moot when running?
                Its claws are attached to its feet. Its feet are used to move. If it catches up to someone moving it can move with four legs while striking with its paw simultaneously. Samurott, being the moronic design it is, can’t do this, because its sword is a separate tool that it can’t use while moving that it needs to draw from its other leg.

                >Samurott pounces and slashes
                Samurott can’t feasibly do this against a moving target,

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they objectively don’t
                You objectively never saw one hunt anything but salmon
                >the sword is a seperate tool
                There’s nothing stopping it from, as it’s lunging with it paw free in the running stroke, from slashing with its sword from the scabbard side to the opposite side.
                >it’s not feasible
                Yet you can’t back this claim up

                > It can easily lunge towards the opponent
                During which a normal opponent can simply move out of the way while it has to waste time jumping while pulling out its sword like a moron.

                There’s a reason why animals that use tools evolved to walk on two legs.

                >B-BUT IT CAN MISS
                So?
                >it takes time!
                The solution is to do it faster then.
                And no, it doesn’t have to jump to slash.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The solution is to do it faster then.
                Or, have not a moronic design, and simply use two legs to move and two arms to use both your swords.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Simply make it slower!
                Lol no

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                It already is slower by having to take time to draw its swords like a moron after moving.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >using Iaido/Iaijutsu is "moronic"
                You're an uncultured swine.
                >calling that slow
                Also, I bet moving without having the sword flailing about is way faster.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                How do clawed animals attack mobile prey?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                By also moving? You know how Iaido/Iaijutsu works, right? Might be more difficult for U. Samurott, but H. Samurott looks faster than most pokemon. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1yHpZt0Hi0
                As you can see, it moves without swinging the sword around uselessly.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Note how the animation needs to show Samurott teleporting to its opponent while the opponent stands perfectly still while it draws its sword because attacking with its swords while having to move from more than one spot is literally impossible with its body shape.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well no, that’s just the devs being lazy and capitalizing on anime tropes. It can easily lunge towards the opponent and draw its sword while it’s above the ground to slash it. You can see that’s basically what happens based on how the animation starts off.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                > It can easily lunge towards the opponent
                During which a normal opponent can simply move out of the way while it has to waste time jumping while pulling out its sword like a moron.

                There’s a reason why animals that use tools evolved to walk on two legs.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >teleporting
                It's moving faster than you can see. It's not a psychic pokemon, it can't teleport.
                >stands perfectly still
                It slashes faster than you can see. Even if it wanted to move (prohibited by game mechanics), it probably wouldn't be able to react fast enough, Samurott is THAT fast.
                >is literally impossible
                fanfic

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >durr infernape is le overdesigned because of swirls or something so let’s put human metal shackles on him instead
      he still mogs primeape btw

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >durr infernape is le overdesigned because of swirls or something so let’s make it look more like a pokemon
        Correct.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone in this thread saying Samurott should stand on two legs is a moron

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      not an argument

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        we’re not arguing

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Inteleon
    >Nothing physical
    You come up with minute changes for other starters but you think Inteleon is completely fine? Frick outta here

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meganium - Give it Sleep Powder.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Venusaur needs to not be a fricking frog.
    I still can't believe gamefreak turned him into one.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they all have the same bst?

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death to all the fursuit pokemon except Blaziken

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