Finchinator wants Kyurem banned again

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-sv-ou-suspect-process-round-9-let-it-go.3735078/#post-9948251

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to hate him but to be honest the way he was able to get to the top of council and make the entire simulator and smogon community his b***h makes me feel like he deserves to ban whatever he wants just for the amount of autistic effort he put in to get there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Smogon bans in Gen 9
      I sleep.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bans in Gen 9
        >I sleep.
        ironically LOL

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It amazes that they're so stubborn about not banning tera yet they have no issue banning nongimmick mechanics like this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yawn shouldn’t be banned. it’s a good tool for forcing annoying pokemon to switch out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You literally can't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bans in Gen 9
        >I sleep.
        ironically LOL

        >haven't played smogon pkmn since ORAS Ubers
        >return
        >sleep is now banned
        what the frick? not even in Gen 4 did they ban Hypnosis when it had 80 accuracy for a short time
        what the frick is the reasoning for this?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what the frick is the reasoning for this?
          absolutely nonsensical.

          The qrd is that the idiots brought darkrai down to OU because they thought it would be okay with the insane powercreep of gen 9, then it started causing a shit load of problems with a sash hypnosis set (because it's still a fricking uber and 60% is good enough) and now instead of re-banning it, and Iron valiant, another offensive speedy hypnosis abuser, the council (mainly finch) is doubling down like a bunch of morons and banning sleep completely, even in lower tiers of gen 9 and on mons that were a complete non-issue prior to the stupid decision of introducing yet another broken threat into an OU meta already swimming with broken threats.

          That's the real reason ^
          the ones they themselves actually gave are incoherent.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO this is funny as frick. What a bunch of morons. I have no idea why would anybody follow their fanfic metagame instead of playing vgc at this point.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              VGC is also shit. 95% of the dex is completely unusable because they get immediately obliterated by Urshifu and Flutter Mane.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >vgc
              There's VGC noobs crying about the format being broken and the only glue voided by a pay2win bear

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              VGC blows ass too, its meta is entirely founded on Pokemon who can survive or otherwise support Urshifu's Wicked Blow and Surging Strikes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm guessing there's no viable options for nullifying Urshifu's Unseen Fist ability?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they cant stall if their pokemon get sleep, it's the same reason why rest is not banned

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stall isn't even that good anymore. Toxic is few and far between, scald is few and far between, recovery move pp got halved. There are stall mons but they are more used as a pivot. It's why things like Alomamola found their way into OU.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the godemperor of poketism, may his rule be lulzy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      qrd? I don't follow smogon politics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll help you, he is literally a manlet and a cheating israelite.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care if he's autistic or if he's a virgin. He is a frickin narcissist and a fascist and he shouldn't hold so much power over the community.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He is a frickin [SCHIZOPHRENIA]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I hope you're at least getting paid to ride his dick, I hate to see sex workers treated unfairly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Big words from someone using fascist to describe a Smogon council member.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does anyone familiar with Smogons hierarchy understand why finch leads the site? He's doesn't own the site, he isn't the best player, and he isn't the most popular player. I just dont get it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cozying up to and being friends the administration and owner and he's been around for a long time, that's literally it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >UU in its debut gen
    >now suddenly it’s a huge problem in the switch era games

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What an actual movepool does to motherfricker

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >UU in Gen HDBs and Load Dice don’t exist, and where it doesn’t learn Freeze Dry, Icicle Spear, and Dragon Dance
      Man I wonder why.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kyurem's main problem was its movepool.
      Now that it gained the two moves it needed, it can throw around its 660 BST pretty liberally.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It, and Kyurem Black, got huge moveset buffs that made both of them way stronger. It also got access to Heavy Duty Boots so it can put its great bulk to use.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Feels like there was more backlash to the sleep ban than they anticipated and so they pulled this suspect test out of their ass as a distraction

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post the SAW copypasta with Finchinator.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    serious question
    what exactly does this have to do with palworld?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ban sleep
    >ban volcarona because it can "abuse tera" but kingambit and gholdenberg remain
    Smogon has become a joke and there's frick all other battle sims. At least Kyurem is getting a suspect. More often than not things are just quick banned now because ?frick you that's why?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Someone just has to buy a server and host a new simulator, the code for showdown is up to fork. But I do suspect when a rival simulator does pop up that smogon will immediately try to get it taken down in some way.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        None of them other sims have any population. At least other tiers don't have Finch shitting them up, but as far as I'm aware anything in OU applies to the tiers below. So his dumb frick sleep ban will effect everything below. I've been enjoying ADV little cup

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >None of them other sims have any population.
          I don't think there are any other sims Satan

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >ban sleep
          >a dozen quiver dance bugs drop to pu before they all get banned

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't ADV LC looking to ban Doduo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wouldn't be surprised. Fast as frick and hits like a truck (for LC) also one of the few mons that get priority.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kingambit was suspected and not banned by the community. It's also one of the things keeping the setup sweepers in check with sucker punch.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're playing singles moron. The whole format is a joke

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You're playing pokemon moron. The whole series is a joke
        ftfy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I watched the Charlotte regional that Wolfe just won. Doubles is much worse than singles, even considering how awful singles is this gen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wait. Did they ban Volcarona again??? I thought we were good now that shit got unbanned again?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The tournament that he wanted Volc illegal for has passed, it's "balanced" now.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's still as imbalanced as it was back then, Smogon is just taking its time banning new threats because "maybe we just need to adapt". There's nothing to adapt to, Volcarona is still bullshit. The only maybe counter to it that's dropped is Deoxys-Speed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It'll be banned the next time Finch loses to it and drums up the rhetoric for his good goyim again, don't worry.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I hope he loses soon. Volcarona is pure horseshit with Tera.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Man it so obvious that Finch treats OU had his own Socialist Republic. He thinks he is Stalin and the rest of the council are Politburo commissars.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Someone just has to buy a server and host a new simulator, the code for showdown is up to fork. But I do suspect when a rival simulator does pop up that smogon will immediately try to get it taken down in some way.

      None of them other sims have any population. At least other tiers don't have Finch shitting them up, but as far as I'm aware anything in OU applies to the tiers below. So his dumb frick sleep ban will effect everything below. I've been enjoying ADV little cup

      Only way for Showdown to get some actual competition is if someone makes a 3D Battle Simulator

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Smogon died the day the strategy pokedex stopped having new whimsical entries after S&M

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does it even get entries anymore?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Besides some "test" entries for only the most popular Pokemon no

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hello, Finchinator. I would like to play a game.

    For years, you have abused your authority as a Smogon moderator and community leader, treating the OU metagame like your own personal fiefdom and leaving its playerbase to suffer through the cancerous stall-infested metagame your tiering decisions inevitably create.

    Perhaps the best example of your abuse of power was in 2021, when you lost to BIHI's unboosted Kyurem lead in only eleven turns, bruising your inflated ego and ruining your chances of winning the tournament that you had entered. Rather than learning from your misplays and structuring your future teams to adapt to a threat you hadn't accounted for, you took the nuclear option and called upon your cronies in the OU council to begin a suspect test, damning Kyurem to a tier where it was hopelessly outclassed for the fourth generation in a row.

    The game is simple.

    Before you is a computer running a modified instance of Pokémon Showdown with no chatrooms, logged in under a throwaway account that was muted sitewide for saying a transphobic slur in The Happy Place.

    When the timer starts, you will have 15 minutes to go into the teambuilder and create a Gen 8 OU team.

    When time is up, you will be locked out of the teambuilder and receive an invitation to play a single match against a stall player with an Elo rating of 1867.

    For every turn this battle lasts, the temperature in your room will drop by one degree Celsius. Let the battle stretch on long enough, and your corpse will end up as frigid as Kyurem's heart.

    If you win the match, the restraints keeping you in your chair will unlock, leaving you free to walk out of this room through the door to your left.

    If you lose, forfeit, or open another computer application, the computer will turn off and the door will close, leaving you to suffer a slow, agonizing death until you freeze to death or starve - whichever comes first.

    Redemption, or damnation. The choice is yours, Finchinator.

    Time starts now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AI vocaroo when?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder:

    Looks like he's still seething.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >all those people in the comments defending him
      Literally all he had to do was not play like a total brain-dead, predictable npc and he would have won.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >build team with 3 ground weaknesses and 2 ice weaknesses
      >play like a blithering moron and attack exactly 1 time in 11 turns
      clearly kyurem is the problem and not a severe lack of mental capacity

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Kyruem was the only thing that could reliably break through the water/steel/ground cores 9/10 players ran in gen 8 OU (if you pull up any tournament or high elo replay either side will be running all 3 typings)
        frick balance and frick stall

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      one of the funniest replays i've ever seen, this guy really runs OU? lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Freezai then
      >The Reason Why Kyurem Is Banned
      >Non-Legendaries That Are GOOD in Competitive Ubers Pokémon
      >How Competitive Pokemon made Gamefreak Nerf Paralysis and Confusion
      Freezai now (Post-Worlds '23)
      >I Shocked Everyone With This Never Used Pokemon Strategy
      >Why A Random Bug Pokémon Is Used More Than Most Legendaries
      >Pokemon Pro Explains All NEW DLC Pokemon
      Sellout.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I Shocked Everyone With This Never Used Pokemon Strategy
        >Still gets destroyed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Finchinator plays like shit and BIHI read him like a book.
      >Of course he'll lead Landorus.
      >Of course he'll switch to a Steel-type as soon as he sees Kyurem.
      >Of course he'll Protect for a turn get some HP from Leftovers
      >Of course he'll switch into Dragapult or Fini when he sees Earth Power
      >Of course he'll be too chicken to send Landorus back in.
      >Of course he won't make any aggressive predictions.
      >Of course he'll Protect for a turn get some HP from Leftovers... again
      That final Roost on the protect was the turn-based equivalent of a 360noscope.

      And let's not just insult Finch's moment-to-moment decisions when his teambuilding was dogshit as well.
      Reminder that the Kyurem set BIHI was using was a sample set. It's not some crazy Chinese anti-meta set that he just made up. A menace with Earth Power and Freeze Dry was well-known enough that Smogon.com promoted the usage of it, and Finchinator chose to build a team with 3 Ground weaknesses and 3 Freeze Dry weaknesses.

      This man is in charge of what is and isn't banned.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That Roost at the end was fricking perfect. Guy got his every switch and move read like a book. No wonder Kyurem makes him seethe to this day.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont think they are giving things much thought at all and they are just copying the gen 5 smogon events

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao wtf kyurem is far from being a problem in this meta

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    format ran by Black folk, glad i quit showdown after gen 6

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dont care still playing ADV OU lol get fricked finch

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey Jimothy Cool

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is good. The sleep ban was bullshit, but putting Kyurem up for a suspect is good.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >is a liteal israelite
    >makes a holohoax joke
    Why should I care what it thinks or says?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cope and seethe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sneed and unbreathe

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just make a fricking roster of 20 Pokemon or something with allowed movesets at this point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Better than making this autistic 'council' shitshow every 2 months, but I guess these people need this attention to live.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This but unironically, there's a reason people are worshipping Gen 3 OU right now despite the fact there's only a handful of relevant Pokemon.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isnt this the guy that just got a mechanic banned?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      finch has less skill than a kid that that just heard about smogon yesterday and yet hes somehow the most important person on the council of neckbeards that makes these shortbus rulings.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Question: what does it take to suspect or ban an OU council member?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >suspect
      Doxxing them
      >ban
      Doxxing them and a gun

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And no gholdengo ban in sight, this is getting moronic

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about the transsexuals furry fancition council of a knockoff palword game
    Yikes

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'll still play on smogon (I play only gen 1 OU)

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, when did Kyurem left NU?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Snow defense buff along with ninetales and chilly reception
      heavy duty boots
      freeze dry
      loaded dice + scale shot and icicle spear

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was never lower than RUBL, it got Freeze Dry, Dragon Dance and Icicle Spear in Gen 8 making it a very scary wallbreaker on either the physical or special side.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Finch in about a month:

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people play Smogon simulator thingy? Why not just do the online ranked battles in the actual game?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no ranked ladder in game for 6v6 singles. BSS and BSD don't really fill that niche

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because changing something on your team in game takes 2000 times longer than on a simulator.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >/vp/ claims to know more about OU than the tier leader
    >yet not one of (You) have ever even voted on a suspect test
    Well, what's stopping you? You DO want Kyurem to stay, right?

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shiny charm does nothing.
    Odds are always 50/50
    Wake up, sheeple!

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    so, you're a smogon player..

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