Not even the strongest lord in his own game, Roy is shit and by the time he gets promoted you are already in endgame where he's reduced to only do final blows to get best ending
If you really don’t understand how FE games use gameplay elements for storytelling, then I don’t know what to tell you.
There’s a reason that sigurd is one of the strongest lords in the series, and roy is one of the weakest. They are worlds apart in both their character and stats. Need I remind you that roy has had zero combat experience outside of his training until the first chapter of the game.
Love him or hate him ike is the strongest lord. Roy's accomplishments are not that great. If you are going by his killing of dragons Martha squad comes out way ahead since they genocided them in mass
Frick off.
Ike's only feat is killing a "god" (which means nothing in fiction), with the power of her other half that could only work against that other god.
He is nothing without Micaiah empowering him.
Roy with the SoS is stronger than the combined divine weapons which caused a nuclear winter + spinning the esrth off its axis.
Isn't Seliph with Tyrfing canonically the strongest Lord?
Tyrfing is comparable to the book of naga, which duh, scales to Naga. Whose fang is falchion.
So Seliph is just as strong as Marth.
Naga got killed by Grima in future past. whose only feat is his body being country sized, ehich requires large island levels of power to make fly.
that "creator deity"'s biggest feat is a global flood. Which is less powerful than spinning the earth.
Also Cecilia survived a critical hit from Zephiel, whose weapon is comparable to durandal, which killed the fire dragon that was going to "turn elibe to ashes".
So? If we don't count the power of the weapon or whatever it is infused with Roy is a pathetic loser. Marth/ike/siggy are then considered the strongest
the impression I got is that jugdral dudes with holy blood dudes are superhumans that cut through dozens of enemies with every attack, whereas falchion is a pointy stick that has the special property of cutting through dragon scales.
But I also got the impression that marth and roy were considered mediocre swordsmen compared to other characters in their own armies, so don't trust my memory too much.
That's pretty much right. Jugdral's holy blood has villagers say that it inherently makes their users demigods that are unnaturally strong and talented, which is why a bunch of inbred noble bosses are capable boss enemies throughout the game despite not training particularly hard.
I think the main reason Roy gets fluffed up is the legendary weapons for FE6/7 caused the world to do some crazy natural disasters to correct for them. It's not anything the weapons can continue to cause, and the end result was it snowed during summer for a year and dragons needed dragonstones to transform after.
The SoS is not a divine weapon, so yahn saying that the divine weapons cannot cause another global winter is irrelevant.
Specially when they are still strong enough to kill continental to multi continental level fire dragons and one shot ninian, who killed two of them in fe7
You're just pulling continental out of your ass, and Ninian's a random ice dragon in a world that has actively nerfed dragons. What's impressive about that from any legendary weapon made to kill dragons?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The fire dragons were stated by athos, the wisest man in the planet that they could turn elibe to ashes.
Holy blood in fe4 is pretty similar to having a crest in 3H. They both turn you into superhumans capable of taking on armies single handedly. Killing gods though is a different story. Hard to judge as you never actually fight any dragons in fe4 and the 10 elites got their shit stomped in by Seiros.
>Roy is also superhuman by dodging lightning attacks, bows and aureola (which is light that travels 100x faster than nornal light)
Every character can do this
11 months ago
Anonymous
Name one light spell in Tellius that has been cstated to be light from the heavens.
Hoarfrost is legit ftl in 3H. So they are the only ones who can kinda keep up in speed with roy
They literally call Ike "one of the strongest" emblem rings multiple times in engage.
Dude's as big as Hector but he's sword instead of axe. Canon strongest, at least as a physical unit.
which is insane when considering Heroes Veronica (who scales to a bunch of multiversal feats) and Eirika/Leif (who do not have any significant feats) are also rings.
>Ike's only feat is killing a "god" (which means nothing in fiction), with the power of her other half that could only work against that other god.
and the bk... and ashnard...
oh but Roy's sword does 3x damage to a specific enemy type so he's stronger durr
If you consider Elibe lore Athos and every other ancient proto lord are canonically stronger than him, Hector got chosen by Armads and only the strongest can bear it, so its quite debatable Roy can be considered the strongest lord ever
Probabmy not the strongest, but has the strongest cannonical weapon. The elibe sacred weapons caused nuclear winter and the sword of seals is stronger than all of them combined.
The nuclear winter shit's stupid. That's not something the weapons can actively do, that's a property of the world acting against them once, over a thousand years before Roy gets the sword. It's like dropping something hot into water making steam then cooling off, else it'd still be winter.
The Legendary Weapons got drastically weaker over time, so I'm not sure how well their peak feats reflect upon Roy
If you remove all legendary weapons and shit from the equation, no magic or anything like that, everybody just gets an iron weapon, then I'm pretty sure the top 3 would be Ike, Alm, Dimitri
but the SoS is still the strongest weapon.
which is not a divine weapon.
Yahn says that it is stronger than the divine wepapons combined with his only reference of their power being the ending winter and even if the divine weapons got "weaker' they still killed the fire dragons who could destroy elibe several times over and one shot ninian
>And you know who are also comparable to naga? All falchion users.
And Roy could be killed by a stray bow because he is human. Does that mean Roy is villager tier?
>Physical forces only? sure
And skill of course, Roy often laments that he just isn't as good as his father supposedly was (idk which version of FE7 he played)
Then again, thinking about it now, Marth having fought two big wars and all, maybe he's top 3 too.
Every FE character can dodge Bolting and the like, not significant >Roy swings the SoS and all other lords die
No evidence as to how strong the SoS really is, all we know is that it's stronger than the legendary weapons individually
But even if, it is still stronger than FE7 Durandal, which one shot ninian and killed one of the fire dragons which are continent level
even with the 8x and ending winter nerf, he still kills.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He only said that it was a blade stronger than the legendary weapons, and it obviously can't be stronger than all of them together since they caused the ending winter and the SoS didn't
Ergo it must only be stronger than the legendary weapons on an individual level
11 months ago
Anonymous
the SoS was made after the ending winter moron. It was only used to kill the remainign dragons and seal idunn once she was the inly one left.
and yet again, it is still AT LEAST as strong as Exxachus because he fought and defeated Zephiel.
Ezzachus is a divine weapon like durandal, which already defetaed a multi continental level foe and one shot ninian, who survived attacks from THREE multi continental dragons before one shotting 2 of them
11 months ago
Anonymous
>the SoS was made after the ending winter moron
Then that's proof that the SoS is not as strong as all of them together, thank you >durandal, which already defetaed a multi continental level foe
Which was already weakened >one shot ninian
Who wasn't there to fight
Also please don't misuse vsbattles wiki terminology, they're only continental or multi-continental if their attacks could genuinely destroy the entire continent(s) with the force from one attack, which is obviously not the case
11 months ago
Anonymous
According to vs battle wiki Roy is literally the weakest lord for who has been discussed anyways
11 months ago
Anonymous
Those guys are a bunch of fricking morons anyways, I just wish the terminology from that site, if it's to be used, wasn't getting used incorrectly
Marty is a gigachad. He accidentally conquerors the continent trying yo get the stones. He might not be the strongest lord but he is probably the best lord in the sense of leadership
Is only half dragon and doesn't do anything interesting with that power, Yato is reliant on the royals powering it up to be worth a damn, even Anankos only does anything really impressive in the DLC
The Tyrfing is strong, but it's just another strong weapon in a game filled with weapons just as strong as it.
The BB at least has its niche of being 1-2 range compared to the other divine weapons in FE6 plus the meme of being able to eat it to restore health.
Roy is shit but Path of Fujos and Radiant Bara homos can get the rope
Literally the most dogshit games in the franchise that nearly killed the entire series, frick off
Wasn't Anankos even higher than the other dragons? He could bring back the dead as they originally were if he had a sound mind. Not to mention when fought he's being nerfed by everything imaginable. The only other boss more powerful than Anankos was Ashera.
naga is literally stronger than them in those game. They are close though. Just looks at the stats of the personal weapons
11 months ago
Anonymous
>STATS
Stats are not canon
diieeeeeeee
11 months ago
Anonymous
reeeeeeee how dare you point out roy sucks dick in every comparable metric
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, I know Naga is said to be above the rest, I just meant that they shouldn't be too far behind. So it should probably be more like Naga > Medeus = Loptous > crusaders > Anankos
11 months ago
Anonymous
something like that. Anankos is probably stronger than crusaders and maybe medius/loptrous tier
Is this a contest of which lord would win fighting the other lords, or which lord has the absolute strongest power level. Ephraim, being a lance user, would have weapon advantage against over half the lords and realistically would come out in the top 20th percentile in some sort of battle royale scenario, but canonically he's nothing special. Ike, Chrom, and Lucina's abilities to self heal with Aether would let them sustain for far longer than other "stronger" lords.
And half of Ashera's power can casually petrify an entire continent's population. Both are way bigger deals than a one-off "it snowed during winter!" that can never be repeated.
Eirika can kill anyone she wanrs with the sacred stone she had on her to seal Formotiis and no one says she is the strongest lord.
Roy resists and can restore soul hax with the SoS tho.
Neither eli or Roy got their soul destroyed by the fire dragons in their games either.
So a global flood from a temper tantrum is somehow less than a "continental" sword? Are you moronic?
Ike inly has that power with micaiah.
And turning a continent to ash requires more force than just violent fragmentation.
Also, Roy is actually moon level by being stronger than the ending winter which shifted the rotation of the planet.
Our planet by spinning causes moon levels of power naturally. spinning it any mount more than that is obviously at least as powerful.
I was just giving the moron ikegay a very low end output for the sake of argument
>ike only has the power with a blessing >Roy only has power with his sword
So which is it? The most fair comparison would be "every lord has silver tier weapon" for strongest in which case Roy is a massive jobber.
Roy without weapon is just competent yet still faster than most lords by being able to dodge aureola and being comparable to cecilia who survived a critical hit from a divine weapon at the hands of zephiel
Where do you get Ike only has power from Micaiah, the dude literally bested the Black Knight who is a branded with super human strength and reflexes. As far as we know from that cutscene the Yune blessing is to overcome Ashera's barrier or seal her away everything up until that final blow is the result of Ike and his party.
And Roy beats Zephiel and his simps who are all the strongest in the continent
11 months ago
Anonymous
And? They are not stated to be literal super humans as far as I recall.
Did you forget that a certain one's armor was blessed with something and Ike could not beat Ashera alone?
Micaiah needs to be there sinfe she is yune's vessel
Not in their final encounter did you forget that point?
11 months ago
Anonymous
between ike and black knight?
What are you even arguing? that makes ike seem even weaker since he needed the blessing to be removed to beat him meaning he isnt god level without yune
11 months ago
Anonymous
He fought him much younger and with less experience and was allowed to win then he came back when the armor was no longer blessed and beat him wtf are you arguing?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>And Roy beats Zephiel and his simps who are all the strongest in the continent
in my playthrough that was all Miledy lel
I don't really buy that Ike's even physically the strongest anymore. Nothing that he does is more impressive than the absolute nonsense that Dimitri does in supports, the guy casually can lift entire wagons and do sprints around mountaintops for hours carrying barrels full of stones while wearing heavy armor. Like as far as who's the strongest in the most basic pure physical strength sense, Dimitri has that on lock and the only people close would be dragons.
I'm talking physical strength as in lifting shit, etc.
But Ike's not THAT experienced either. Twice as many games doesn't mean twice as much experience. Ike hadn't gone on a single mission until the start of PoR, and the gap between PoR and RD is only 3 years.
By comparison, Dimitri's first real battle is 2 years before 3H Academy phase (where he disgusts Felix by slaughtering everyone), he's constantlly fighting through the 5 year timeskip to the War phase. He would have a lot more combat experience than either of Ike or Marth, and especially a lot more combat experience by himself with no backup.
ephraim literally dodged him
if he lost he would have been captured as orson claimed
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he would have been captured as orson claimed
He was. He just escaped afterwards and Grado made the villagers think he was still captured to bait Eirika there.
Nah, Corrin should be below at least Edelgard
Holy blood in Jugdral is a bigger deal, those guys should get bumped up
Wasn't Anankos even higher than the other dragons? He could bring back the dead as they originally were if he had a sound mind. Not to mention when fought he's being nerfed by everything imaginable. The only other boss more powerful than Anankos was Ashera.
Sane Anankos says that Naga's power leaves him in awe
https://imgur.com/a/a4ThNVL
Roy has Lilina, to be fair. My first play through with her not only did she max out magic but also somehow nearly maxed out speed so she was double nuking everything.
That's Eliwood being the anomaly by being a father that lives through the end of a Fire Emblem lord's game.
Marth, Alm, Celica, Sigurd, Seliph, Leif, Eliwood, Hector, Lyn, Eirika, Ephraim, Chrom, Robin, Lucina, Corrin, Byleth, and Alear all fail this check, the closest is Corrin because 2 of the 3 routes can end with only 2 of Corrin's 3 dads dead (Sumeragi, Garon, and Anankos) but the third gets them all.
The only sad thing is if you stretch it out to secondary lords, it's unclear on Claude, Edelgard, and Timerra/Fogado's dads and if they're alive by the end. They just sorta fade away without being talked about much, an unfortunate asterisk on Eliwood being a one time anomaly over 15+ games.
OP here.
Obviously, he is only the strongest CANON lord.
Roy gets eaten alive by FE Warriors versions, Tokyo Mirage Sessions (Shin megami tensei scaling), anyone from FE Heroes (multiversal stuffs) and Project X Zone 2 (since Lucina&Chrom scale to Super robot wars and xenoblade stuffs)
otherwise nearby the final chapter Medeus creates an earthquake that could be felt in the idolaspjere and the real world. which are separate realms of reality
so low multiversal
so yeah the tmsfe cast eats the main universe alive
I never play the GBA games.
Can someone explain how Roy is stronger than time traveling Dragon Jesus, or Dragon anti-Christ if you count Robin as a lord?
The legendary weapons in GBA games caused a natural catastrophe when they clashed with the dragons they were made to go to war against, which made summer into winter for a year and also made dragons unable to maintain dragon form in the world without dragon stones.
People extrapolate out that it means those weapons are the strongest ever, but then in FE7 your entire cast with at least 3 of the 12 legendary weapons struggle against a single generic child fire dragon (it's the final boss).
Killed with a sword. So SoS less Roy also dies. What's your point?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong.
Roy killed a fire manakete without the SoS early on fe6 and is comparable to cecilia who survived a critical hit from zephiel with a divine weapon
11 months ago
Anonymous
>gameplay doesn't count until it is convent for me
Piss off roygay
11 months ago
Anonymous
she canonically endured a hit from zephiel
its a event that cannot be prevented and is scripted
11 months ago
Anonymous
Crit is the gameplay. Living a hit is all you had to say. The rest is power scaling wankery
Do you have any actual proof that Yune buffed Ike in any way or are you just talking out of your ass? It was my interpretation that that energy was needed to seal/merge the two of them together based on the ending.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The reason they could beat ashera is because yune is her exact half.
this is directlt stated in the lore.
ashunera slipt herself in exact halves
11 months ago
Anonymous
Okay and I don't recall them mentioning the blessing increasing their strength in any way it just allowed them to contact the barriers on Ashera and her followers.
11 months ago
Anonymous
what do you mean? the only reason they could beat ashera was yune being her lther half.
if they were as strong as her, it wasnt needed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only "power up" that was needed was for the final blow to seal/merge the two beings. The other blessings were blessing weapons to be able to piece Ashera's barriers and these blessings did not increase the strength of the weapons in anyway beyond making them potentially unbreakable for a period of time. You seem to be arguing that Roy handled the entirety of his game by himself and that he is anything notable without the SoS. Also I feel there is some communication barrier here as well is english not your first language?
“What a calamity! If dragons return to this world… The continent will be ash in less than a month!!”
That's what he says, about if the Dragon Gate is left open. As in if ALL dragons return this moment right now, they'd burn the place up in a month. Because no one else even has the anti-dragon weapons unsealed but the handful they have.
Yes
RD Micaiah can only use sacrifice to heal one homosexual
Engage Micaiah can use global sacrifice to fully heal everyone
FE6 Roy dies to everything both gameplay and canon
Engage Roy refuses to die
Nah Sigurd, Celice and Lief from FE4 utterly demolish him. Sigurd is noticable weaker than the second gen Lords yet he can still solo his entire chunk of the game rather easily.
You are out of your mind if Roy could beat someone like RD-era ike. And that's not going into the really busted characters like Byleth, toothepaste-kun, Corn ect ect
So to summarize roygays arguments >gameplay doesn't count >blessings and sword hacks don't count >except Roy who is hard carried by his sword >also his sword is the strongest sword >compared to extremely weakened divine weapons that did some shit over the course of a fricking thousand years
My vote for strongest lord is siggy. Without his weapon he is still a superhuman demigod. With his weapon he can go toe to toe with people channeling evil dragons
>genocided the world by herself
It was already a zombie world where the dead were at each other's throats. On top of that it was mostly Nel the one killing them a second time.
Ike is the only lord that ISIS attributes to the word "strongest". THE strongest according to FEH, one of the strongest according to Engage (and no others specified).
Not even the strongest lord in his own game, Roy is shit and by the time he gets promoted you are already in endgame where he's reduced to only do final blows to get best ending
>using gameplay mechanics such as stats
yawn
cope ikehomosexual or Byletroony
If you really don’t understand how FE games use gameplay elements for storytelling, then I don’t know what to tell you.
There’s a reason that sigurd is one of the strongest lords in the series, and roy is one of the weakest. They are worlds apart in both their character and stats. Need I remind you that roy has had zero combat experience outside of his training until the first chapter of the game.
So what's your excuse for Seth losing to Valter when if you actually had them fight in game at that level Seth wins handily?
I don't remember the opening cutscene in fe8, but did seth have Eirka rescued?
No, she just stands behind Seth while he gets skewered
Strongest will Lord
Cutest canon lord
t. lilina
>Laughs in Seliph
>15yo
>kills his world's equivalent of hitler
>kills dragon
Yeah, strongest in canon. Weakest gameplay-wise
Ike killed a goddess.
I see Soi gays still being deluded as hell
Love him or hate him ike is the strongest lord. Roy's accomplishments are not that great. If you are going by his killing of dragons Martha squad comes out way ahead since they genocided them in mass
Frick off.
Ike's only feat is killing a "god" (which means nothing in fiction), with the power of her other half that could only work against that other god.
He is nothing without Micaiah empowering him.
Roy with the SoS is stronger than the combined divine weapons which caused a nuclear winter + spinning the esrth off its axis.
Tyrfing is comparable to the book of naga, which duh, scales to Naga. Whose fang is falchion.
So Seliph is just as strong as Marth.
Naga got killed by Grima in future past. whose only feat is his body being country sized, ehich requires large island levels of power to make fly.
>killing half of the creator deity doesn't count
>his sword did all the work
>Roy's SoS is the strongest sword tee her
that "creator deity"'s biggest feat is a global flood. Which is less powerful than spinning the earth.
Also Cecilia survived a critical hit from Zephiel, whose weapon is comparable to durandal, which killed the fire dragon that was going to "turn elibe to ashes".
yawn.
cope ikefsggot
Ragnell does nothing, every weapon needs to be blessed by Yune to do anything, otherwise Ashera just keeps coming back to life
So? If we don't count the power of the weapon or whatever it is infused with Roy is a pathetic loser. Marth/ike/siggy are then considered the strongest
>which means nothing in fiction
I don't think I've heard a bigger cope since Fates censored face touching.
Are you claiming that Palutena is as strong as Kratos, Hades (saint seiya), Beerus (dragon ball), Aqua (konosuba) and the abrahamic god and budha?
Because all of them are "Gods" in fiction.
She's at least as strong as Aqua.
the impression I got is that jugdral dudes with holy blood dudes are superhumans that cut through dozens of enemies with every attack, whereas falchion is a pointy stick that has the special property of cutting through dragon scales.
But I also got the impression that marth and roy were considered mediocre swordsmen compared to other characters in their own armies, so don't trust my memory too much.
That's pretty much right. Jugdral's holy blood has villagers say that it inherently makes their users demigods that are unnaturally strong and talented, which is why a bunch of inbred noble bosses are capable boss enemies throughout the game despite not training particularly hard.
I think the main reason Roy gets fluffed up is the legendary weapons for FE6/7 caused the world to do some crazy natural disasters to correct for them. It's not anything the weapons can continue to cause, and the end result was it snowed during summer for a year and dragons needed dragonstones to transform after.
The SoS is not a divine weapon, so yahn saying that the divine weapons cannot cause another global winter is irrelevant.
Specially when they are still strong enough to kill continental to multi continental level fire dragons and one shot ninian, who killed two of them in fe7
You're just pulling continental out of your ass, and Ninian's a random ice dragon in a world that has actively nerfed dragons. What's impressive about that from any legendary weapon made to kill dragons?
The fire dragons were stated by athos, the wisest man in the planet that they could turn elibe to ashes.
Ninian killed 2 and tanked attacks from them.
Holy blood in fe4 is pretty similar to having a crest in 3H. They both turn you into superhumans capable of taking on armies single handedly. Killing gods though is a different story. Hard to judge as you never actually fight any dragons in fe4 and the 10 elites got their shit stomped in by Seiros.
"boss enemies" is a gameplay term.
Roy is also superhuman by dodging lightning attacks, bows and aureola (which is light that travels 100x faster than nornal light)
>Roy is also superhuman by dodging lightning attacks, bows and aureola (which is light that travels 100x faster than nornal light)
Every character can do this
Name one light spell in Tellius that has been cstated to be light from the heavens.
Hoarfrost is legit ftl in 3H. So they are the only ones who can kinda keep up in speed with roy
They literally call Ike "one of the strongest" emblem rings multiple times in engage.
Dude's as big as Hector but he's sword instead of axe. Canon strongest, at least as a physical unit.
Engage has all rings be the same power wise.
which is insane when considering Heroes Veronica (who scales to a bunch of multiversal feats) and Eirika/Leif (who do not have any significant feats) are also rings.
>Ike's only feat is killing a "god" (which means nothing in fiction), with the power of her other half that could only work against that other god.
and the bk... and ashnard...
oh but Roy's sword does 3x damage to a specific enemy type so he's stronger durr
Bro, the god he killed petrified the entire world's population.
that is hax not attack potency
>muh canon
Don't care. Roy is a shit unit and requires babysitting until he gets the Binding Blade.
Give him Allen and Lance support to fix his need of babysitting
Isn't Seliph with Tyrfing canonically the strongest Lord?
No, Julia is the one to beat Julius
Okay but Seliph and Julia's child would be the strongest
>inbreeding
that kid would be moronic.
>that kid would be moronic.
No, it wouldn't.
Just look at Seliph's father. His kid has a decent chance of being moronic regardless of the mother.
I like Eliwood too, but I wouldn't call him the strongest.
That's where you're wrong.
I still can't believe Ellen wouldn't heal Hector when he was at 1HP
it was his plan all along.
Also Roy being Zephiel makes him the mist influential man in the continent, whose a good kid who listens to what eliwood tells him to do.
Eliwood wants to unify the continent under his banner
If you consider Elibe lore Athos and every other ancient proto lord are canonically stronger than him, Hector got chosen by Armads and only the strongest can bear it, so its quite debatable Roy can be considered the strongest lord ever
physically, lots of lords are stronger
with their blades? Roy swings away Ike, Byleth, Seliph, Marth and their enemies and their armies at once.
thats the scale between planet axis shifting to Ike scaling to half of a global flood (with outside help) and a country sized corpse (grima)
He had to share milk with Wolt, that puts him above all other Lords
Probabmy not the strongest, but has the strongest cannonical weapon. The elibe sacred weapons caused nuclear winter and the sword of seals is stronger than all of them combined.
The sos is his sword.
and it has an ID Lock that forbids anyone else from using it.
Roy IS the strongest.
The nuclear winter shit's stupid. That's not something the weapons can actively do, that's a property of the world acting against them once, over a thousand years before Roy gets the sword. It's like dropping something hot into water making steam then cooling off, else it'd still be winter.
>So strong it had to be tricked so he could be killed
Good thing his son would not fall for the same mistakes.
The Legendary Weapons got drastically weaker over time, so I'm not sure how well their peak feats reflect upon Roy
If you remove all legendary weapons and shit from the equation, no magic or anything like that, everybody just gets an iron weapon, then I'm pretty sure the top 3 would be Ike, Alm, Dimitri
Physical forces only? sure
but the SoS is still the strongest weapon.
which is not a divine weapon.
Yahn says that it is stronger than the divine wepapons combined with his only reference of their power being the ending winter and even if the divine weapons got "weaker' they still killed the fire dragons who could destroy elibe several times over and one shot ninian
Julia's naga tome us the strongest by a large margin. Cope roygay
Julia's tome is comparable to naga herself, who died to Grima in FP3.
And you know who are also comparable to naga? All falchion users.
>who died to Grima in FP3
What head cannon is this?
Future past dlc. Aka bull shit
https://imgur.com/a/aaHRSlv
>And you know who are also comparable to naga? All falchion users.
And Roy could be killed by a stray bow because he is human. Does that mean Roy is villager tier?
Ike can also get hurt by bows and killed over time
which doesnt matter since its gameplay mechanics and i dint care aboit gameplay
Exactly. If we discount weapons the only lords that matter are superhumans like Sigurd
>Physical forces only? sure
And skill of course, Roy often laments that he just isn't as good as his father supposedly was (idk which version of FE7 he played)
Then again, thinking about it now, Marth having fought two big wars and all, maybe he's top 3 too.
Roy is faster by dodging aureola and fighting foes that can dodge it.
Also, several times stronger and comparable to cecilia, who endured a critical hit from zephiel.
Roy swings the SoS and all other lords die.
Every FE character can dodge Bolting and the like, not significant
>Roy swings the SoS and all other lords die
No evidence as to how strong the SoS really is, all we know is that it's stronger than the legendary weapons individually
>individually
Yahn clearly said all of them.
But even if, it is still stronger than FE7 Durandal, which one shot ninian and killed one of the fire dragons which are continent level
even with the 8x and ending winter nerf, he still kills.
He only said that it was a blade stronger than the legendary weapons, and it obviously can't be stronger than all of them together since they caused the ending winter and the SoS didn't
Ergo it must only be stronger than the legendary weapons on an individual level
the SoS was made after the ending winter moron. It was only used to kill the remainign dragons and seal idunn once she was the inly one left.
and yet again, it is still AT LEAST as strong as Exxachus because he fought and defeated Zephiel.
Ezzachus is a divine weapon like durandal, which already defetaed a multi continental level foe and one shot ninian, who survived attacks from THREE multi continental dragons before one shotting 2 of them
>the SoS was made after the ending winter moron
Then that's proof that the SoS is not as strong as all of them together, thank you
>durandal, which already defetaed a multi continental level foe
Which was already weakened
>one shot ninian
Who wasn't there to fight
Also please don't misuse vsbattles wiki terminology, they're only continental or multi-continental if their attacks could genuinely destroy the entire continent(s) with the force from one attack, which is obviously not the case
According to vs battle wiki Roy is literally the weakest lord for who has been discussed anyways
Those guys are a bunch of fricking morons anyways, I just wish the terminology from that site, if it's to be used, wasn't getting used incorrectly
Marty is a gigachad. He accidentally conquerors the continent trying yo get the stones. He might not be the strongest lord but he is probably the best lord in the sense of leadership
Marth conquered the continent twice. Id say its a big deal.
Roy's wife
>not a single person has mentioned corn
Look I hate the homosexual too but he is the child of the second strongest creature in FE
Is only half dragon and doesn't do anything interesting with that power, Yato is reliant on the royals powering it up to be worth a damn, even Anankos only does anything really impressive in the DLC
Roygay really is insufferable
>Solo's your game
does SPD Smoke 4 stack with this? I must know
Damage mitigation stacks multiplicatively, not by addition, so you won't get 100% by having 50% and 50%
Yes. Do it.
Roygays are secondaries.
Ike is called the strongest multiple times in the games, and he IS the only person who could have killed Ashera, since only he gets the cutscene.
Actually grima is the strongest now.
1:30
Shareena knows who Ike is and still claimed fallen grima to be stronger.
And Roy was stated to be a more difficult fight than Marth, who has the fully enhanced falchion at its prime, who killed Grima in Awakening.
So Roy is still the strongest even in Heroes
frick i forgot the video
since when is heroes canon a thing? its mobile trash for whales and morons
>the strongest hero
>strongest hero
>strongest
>-est makes superlative adjectives and adverbs
>Roygays are secondaries.
Secondaries from what? Smash Bros Melee? Marth is better than him there.
Ultimate too, zoomers grow up fast
The SoS isn't even that good in gameplay, it's +5 Def/Res, 20 uses, and 5 Mt higher than a Silver Sword.
The Tyrfing is +10 Sk, +10 Spd, +20 Res, Prayer skill, 60 uses, and 16 mt higher than a Silver Sword.
The Tyrfing is strong, but it's just another strong weapon in a game filled with weapons just as strong as it.
The BB at least has its niche of being 1-2 range compared to the other divine weapons in FE6 plus the meme of being able to eat it to restore health.
Meanwhile MOTHERFRICKING NAGA
>+20 skill, +20 speed, +20 defense, +20 resistance when equipped
Roy is shit but Path of Fujos and Radiant Bara homos can get the rope
Literally the most dogshit games in the franchise that nearly killed the entire series, frick off
>equips Luna
seeya homosexual
Isn’t Byleth able to have the highest stats due to them being able to reach level 99?
So is Anri Okita the strongest character in the FEverse? He did a similar journey as Marth but mostly alone, and with far more dragons
Maybe. They were not organized by a central leader iirc which would make it much easier to kill them.
Isn't Corrin stronger, by nature of being part dragon?
Roy is also part dragon what are you talking about
also a big mask monster dude was about to kill corrin if lilith didnt get in the way
No, not when almost every other lord has anti-dragon weapons and experience and Anankos isn't on the same level as Naga/Medeus/Loptous/Grima
Wasn't Anankos even higher than the other dragons? He could bring back the dead as they originally were if he had a sound mind. Not to mention when fought he's being nerfed by everything imaginable. The only other boss more powerful than Anankos was Ashera.
naga>anankos>literally everyone else. Naga has not been powercrept as of yet outside fanservice grima autism
Grima killed everyone and it took time travel to kill him
its still official DLC
cope nagagay
The other dragons from Archanea and Jugdral should be pretty comparable to Naga though, right? Medeus, Loptous, the crusader dragons?
naga is literally stronger than them in those game. They are close though. Just looks at the stats of the personal weapons
>STATS
Stats are not canon
diieeeeeeee
reeeeeeee how dare you point out roy sucks dick in every comparable metric
Yes, I know Naga is said to be above the rest, I just meant that they shouldn't be too far behind. So it should probably be more like Naga > Medeus = Loptous > crusaders > Anankos
something like that. Anankos is probably stronger than crusaders and maybe medius/loptrous tier
>Naga was apparently asleep the entire time Anankos was rampaging, collecting power from his alternate timeline selves to wipe out all life
yeah? Shes a sleepy lady
If you put the lords against each other, Corrin dies instantly because of being part dragon.
Is this a contest of which lord would win fighting the other lords, or which lord has the absolute strongest power level. Ephraim, being a lance user, would have weapon advantage against over half the lords and realistically would come out in the top 20th percentile in some sort of battle royale scenario, but canonically he's nothing special. Ike, Chrom, and Lucina's abilities to self heal with Aether would let them sustain for far longer than other "stronger" lords.
>roygay
>much power scaling autism
>much continental
How in the world is killing a creator deity less than muh continental again?
because ashunera's fully enraged power only caused a global flood.
And half of Ashera's power can casually petrify an entire continent's population. Both are way bigger deals than a one-off "it snowed during winter!" that can never be repeated.
Hax is not strength.
Eirika can kill anyone she wanrs with the sacred stone she had on her to seal Formotiis and no one says she is the strongest lord.
Roy resists and can restore soul hax with the SoS tho.
Neither eli or Roy got their soul destroyed by the fire dragons in their games either.
Ike inly has that power with micaiah.
And turning a continent to ash requires more force than just violent fragmentation.
Also, Roy is actually moon level by being stronger than the ending winter which shifted the rotation of the planet.
Our planet by spinning causes moon levels of power naturally. spinning it any mount more than that is obviously at least as powerful.
I was just giving the moron ikegay a very low end output for the sake of argument
>ike only has the power with a blessing
>Roy only has power with his sword
So which is it? The most fair comparison would be "every lord has silver tier weapon" for strongest in which case Roy is a massive jobber.
Roy without weapon is just competent yet still faster than most lords by being able to dodge aureola and being comparable to cecilia who survived a critical hit from a divine weapon at the hands of zephiel
Where do you get Ike only has power from Micaiah, the dude literally bested the Black Knight who is a branded with super human strength and reflexes. As far as we know from that cutscene the Yune blessing is to overcome Ashera's barrier or seal her away everything up until that final blow is the result of Ike and his party.
And Roy beats Zephiel and his simps who are all the strongest in the continent
And? They are not stated to be literal super humans as far as I recall.
Not in their final encounter did you forget that point?
between ike and black knight?
What are you even arguing? that makes ike seem even weaker since he needed the blessing to be removed to beat him meaning he isnt god level without yune
He fought him much younger and with less experience and was allowed to win then he came back when the armor was no longer blessed and beat him wtf are you arguing?
>And Roy beats Zephiel and his simps who are all the strongest in the continent
in my playthrough that was all Miledy lel
Did you forget that a certain one's armor was blessed with something and Ike could not beat Ashera alone?
Micaiah needs to be there sinfe she is yune's vessel
So a global flood from a temper tantrum is somehow less than a "continental" sword? Are you moronic?
Roy only has a powerful sword by his side
Ike has a powerful sword and needs direct intervention from the diety's other half to be able to beat her
I don't really buy that Ike's even physically the strongest anymore. Nothing that he does is more impressive than the absolute nonsense that Dimitri does in supports, the guy casually can lift entire wagons and do sprints around mountaintops for hours carrying barrels full of stones while wearing heavy armor. Like as far as who's the strongest in the most basic pure physical strength sense, Dimitri has that on lock and the only people close would be dragons.
Ike has the edge from sheer experience, the only one tying him there would be Marth and co.
I'm talking physical strength as in lifting shit, etc.
But Ike's not THAT experienced either. Twice as many games doesn't mean twice as much experience. Ike hadn't gone on a single mission until the start of PoR, and the gap between PoR and RD is only 3 years.
By comparison, Dimitri's first real battle is 2 years before 3H Academy phase (where he disgusts Felix by slaughtering everyone), he's constantlly fighting through the 5 year timeskip to the War phase. He would have a lot more combat experience than either of Ike or Marth, and especially a lot more combat experience by himself with no backup.
That's pretty fair actually
What good is physical strength when you have one eye and minimal combat experience?
You can't tell me the dual wielding flying motherfricker with Ragnell and Alondite isnt the strongest
>tell her you can see her panties
>AIIIEE ANON NO ECCHI
>drops swords to cover herself
pssh nothing personal, anime girl from Japan
Altena's a legendary hero, she doesn't wear panties!
I appreciate that Ephraim and Eirika are just normal people with some combat experience.
>I appreciate that Ephraim and Eirika are twins that frick
ftfy
ephraim has the power of PLOT on his side.
also still defeated zombie dragons whic are at least the size of a small building
Fair but the plot implies that he uses his whole army for threats like that
well yeah
id say leif is the weakest since he doesnt get a proper divine naga weapon
Remember that time when ephraim raided a castle with only himself and his retainers?
That castle wasn't heavily defended because Valter was using it as bait and Ephraim lost the fight with him afterwards.
ephraim literally dodged him
if he lost he would have been captured as orson claimed
>he would have been captured as orson claimed
He was. He just escaped afterwards and Grado made the villagers think he was still captured to bait Eirika there.
Power Ranking:
Roy > Corrin > Robin > Byleth > Ike > Seliph > Leif > Sigurd > Marth > Dimitri > Edelgard > Hector > Chrom > Ephraim > Eliwood > Alm > Micaiah > Lucina > Claude > Celica > Eirika > Lyn
Alear flip flops because he was competent when he was a Fell Dragon and as an Emblem, but incompetent as a Divine Dragon.
Nah, Corrin should be below at least Edelgard
Holy blood in Jugdral is a bigger deal, those guys should get bumped up
Sane Anankos says that Naga's power leaves him in awe
https://imgur.com/a/a4ThNVL
Wasn't the sane Anankos there just a fraction of his true self?
Yes, but he of course still has knowledge of his capabilities
Is Roy really that bad of a lord that Gankertards resort to loregayging?
Ye>>64s. Roy is the weakest lord in gameplay
Roy has Lilina, to be fair. My first play through with her not only did she max out magic but also somehow nearly maxed out speed so she was double nuking everything.
SPD blessed Lilina is always fun, I always give her 10 levels to see if she gets blessed
Lore wins again.
Anyways Roy is an anomaly since he is the only lord with a living father
That's Eliwood being the anomaly by being a father that lives through the end of a Fire Emblem lord's game.
Marth, Alm, Celica, Sigurd, Seliph, Leif, Eliwood, Hector, Lyn, Eirika, Ephraim, Chrom, Robin, Lucina, Corrin, Byleth, and Alear all fail this check, the closest is Corrin because 2 of the 3 routes can end with only 2 of Corrin's 3 dads dead (Sumeragi, Garon, and Anankos) but the third gets them all.
Anakos also only dies at the end of revelation, so yeah, only Roy's the anomaly in the Lord-Society
Sombron is literally the final boss and alive throughout the game. How does Alear fail the check? Unless you're talking about Lumera.
I said lives through the end, Sombron's killed at it. Credits roll with Eliwood still alive.
Yeah, but that's not the Lucina that's playable as a Lord. Her dad is absolutely dead in the timeline she's from.
>I said lives through the end
True. Don't know how I glossed over that.
The only sad thing is if you stretch it out to secondary lords, it's unclear on Claude, Edelgard, and Timerra/Fogado's dads and if they're alive by the end. They just sorta fade away without being talked about much, an unfortunate asterisk on Eliwood being a one time anomaly over 15+ games.
Chrom survived for baby Lucina though
Isnt Ike the strongest? I thought he was so strong even the mary sue dragon lords couldnt out bullshit him.
IS says so, but we're being autistic in here and looking at lore and shit
physically? eh, sure.
Otherwise, he is just meh compared to the falchion users and roy with their swords. Specially if Micaiah isnt there to empower him
This is how you know that OP didn't play his game. Binding Blade is pretty much an Escort Roy: The game
gameplay doesnt matter
what matters is
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Free FE7 coming soon!
>free
>need to pay for a shitty subscription
You're not fooling anyone merchant
Lore wins again
OP here.
Obviously, he is only the strongest CANON lord.
Roy gets eaten alive by FE Warriors versions, Tokyo Mirage Sessions (Shin megami tensei scaling), anyone from FE Heroes (multiversal stuffs) and Project X Zone 2 (since Lucina&Chrom scale to Super robot wars and xenoblade stuffs)
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>Shin megami tensei scaling
cerberus and loki exist in tmsfe
otherwise nearby the final chapter Medeus creates an earthquake that could be felt in the idolaspjere and the real world. which are separate realms of reality
so low multiversal
so yeah the tmsfe cast eats the main universe alive
I was just laughing at it getting its own specification. SMT power scaling is literally off the chart
Fellas how do I motivate myself to continue my FE10 LTC playthrough.
I got to 3-P and just seeing that map killed my interest.
just put all your units together and have patience
>have massive chokepoint
>win
FE10 has some extremely stupid funnel maps
I never play the GBA games.
Can someone explain how Roy is stronger than time traveling Dragon Jesus, or Dragon anti-Christ if you count Robin as a lord?
he isn't. He is just a dude with an admittedly pretty damn strong sword. Roygay is just being annoying.
he is
The legendary weapons in GBA games caused a natural catastrophe when they clashed with the dragons they were made to go to war against, which made summer into winter for a year and also made dragons unable to maintain dragon form in the world without dragon stones.
People extrapolate out that it means those weapons are the strongest ever, but then in FE7 your entire cast with at least 3 of the 12 legendary weapons struggle against a single generic child fire dragon (it's the final boss).
that fire dragon was stated by athos to be able to turn elibe into ashes
yeah dragons are strong without a way to kill them. Any fire dragon without a way to kill it can burn the world
so yeah even struggling to kill that is far above anything yuneless ike could hope to do
Killed with a sword. So SoS less Roy also dies. What's your point?
Wrong.
Roy killed a fire manakete without the SoS early on fe6 and is comparable to cecilia who survived a critical hit from zephiel with a divine weapon
>gameplay doesn't count until it is convent for me
Piss off roygay
she canonically endured a hit from zephiel
its a event that cannot be prevented and is scripted
Crit is the gameplay. Living a hit is all you had to say. The rest is power scaling wankery
Do you have any actual proof that Yune buffed Ike in any way or are you just talking out of your ass? It was my interpretation that that energy was needed to seal/merge the two of them together based on the ending.
The reason they could beat ashera is because yune is her exact half.
this is directlt stated in the lore.
ashunera slipt herself in exact halves
Okay and I don't recall them mentioning the blessing increasing their strength in any way it just allowed them to contact the barriers on Ashera and her followers.
what do you mean? the only reason they could beat ashera was yune being her lther half.
if they were as strong as her, it wasnt needed.
The only "power up" that was needed was for the final blow to seal/merge the two beings. The other blessings were blessing weapons to be able to piece Ashera's barriers and these blessings did not increase the strength of the weapons in anyway beyond making them potentially unbreakable for a period of time. You seem to be arguing that Roy handled the entirety of his game by himself and that he is anything notable without the SoS. Also I feel there is some communication barrier here as well is english not your first language?
I just checked Serenes Forest and nah.
“What a calamity! If dragons return to this world… The continent will be ash in less than a month!!”
That's what he says, about if the Dragon Gate is left open. As in if ALL dragons return this moment right now, they'd burn the place up in a month. Because no one else even has the anti-dragon weapons unsealed but the handful they have.
Pepsi engaged with Ike is canonically the strongest fire emblem lord
its TOOTHPASTE CHAN homosexual
also doubtful since the rings are all comparable to each other, which is insane when Leif, Eirika and FIRE EMBLEM HEROES Veronica is there
>"toothpaste chan" instead of toothpaste-chan
>"chan" honorific for a male
>reddit spacing
have a nice day Black person
I think most Emblems might actually be stronger than their regular counterparts.
doubt it when emblem ike cant do jack shit alone
also isnt yune empowered
Yes
RD Micaiah can only use sacrifice to heal one homosexual
Engage Micaiah can use global sacrifice to fully heal everyone
FE6 Roy dies to everything both gameplay and canon
Engage Roy refuses to die
Nah Sigurd, Celice and Lief from FE4 utterly demolish him. Sigurd is noticable weaker than the second gen Lords yet he can still solo his entire chunk of the game rather easily.
I hate Roy's outfit and was Smash got Eliwood instead
>Roy
>Powerful
Looooool
lore > gameplay
You are out of your mind if Roy could beat someone like RD-era ike. And that's not going into the really busted characters like Byleth, toothepaste-kun, Corn ect ect
he does not beat them.
he STOMPS them with far superior attack potency, speed and durability
So to summarize roygays arguments
>gameplay doesn't count
>blessings and sword hacks don't count
>except Roy who is hard carried by his sword
>also his sword is the strongest sword
>compared to extremely weakened divine weapons that did some shit over the course of a fricking thousand years
My vote for strongest lord is siggy. Without his weapon he is still a superhuman demigod. With his weapon he can go toe to toe with people channeling evil dragons
Don't forget that gameplay does count when it suits him as he keeps quoting that Zephiel crit.
Alear is the strongest
She genocided an entire alternate world and kidnaped the 5 sole survivors
turning the entire mass of a continent ti ashes >>>>>>> destroying puny humans
yawn
fire dragon eats alear for lunch
>genocided the world by herself
It was already a zombie world where the dead were at each other's throats. On top of that it was mostly Nel the one killing them a second time.
roy looking CUTEEEEEEE!
t. cecilia
Ike is the only lord that ISIS attributes to the word "strongest". THE strongest according to FEH, one of the strongest according to Engage (and no others specified).
where did the isis meme come from anyway
It was in awakening. If dlc counts for anything else his descendants story counts for ike