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I keep seeing stuff about how Engage is censored, can somebody explain? What happened?
Mate if you keep seeing threads about it how do you not know what is happening, in short the english version removes romance from supports.
It's bait
It's not
Engage is one of the best FE games
If you're a shit-eater
So the MC, Alear, is 17 years old. Localization changed text for paired endings with Alear for characters that are 17 or younger. As in Japanese, it's Romantic while in English it's platonic. But for characters who are 18 and older that marry Alear, the dialogue is romantic.
In other words, YOU SICK FRICK!
So there is romance but for only characters that are older? Does this apply for the MC only or for all characters?
Romance for MC are for characters 18 or older.
I've always wondered, where is this meme from? what does he actually say?
it's from law and order svu, dunno what he says tho
He doesn't actually say that at all. We've all been bamboozled.
?t=55
im sad, and i dont know why
>comments are turned off
wait I thought it was from Mad Men?
so we all got mandela effect-ed?
>So the MC, Alear, is 17 years old
I thought you were a dragon and live for thousands of years?
>this is what fateswakening gays were hyping
lol
lmao
I honestly don't understand why you don't just age people who are 16-17 up to 18 in this case unless it is integral to the story for some reason. Other than, obviously, wanting to shit up the game and cause some sort of controversy, instead of actually wanting to give people a proper experience.
It's funny how they did that with Elise of all people but can't do it now.
Goes to show that the situation has only gotten worse.
I don't know how else you could actually do it with Elise. Its integral to the plot that she can have a baby. They can't really sensor or cut that.
>Its integral to the plot that she can have a baby. They can't really sensor or cut that
First babies in Fates are irrelevant to the plot
Second, Fates' localization had a shitton of cut content, especially DLCs, them removing one of the female characters as a potential mother because she's underaged is something they totally would do
>Its integral to the plot that she can have a baby. They can't really sensor or cut that.
Not true. Only the fathers, Azura, and Corn canonically get laid since they’re directly tied to their kid. The mothers are never brought up so it isn’t necessarily the case any of them had kids, especially considering Shigure refers to none of the other kids as his siblings even though that would be impossible in gameplay
To put into perspective (even if 1 is too many changed) this affects at most 8 characters out of your 36-39? units
it's okay when older women date underaged boys
t.reehouse
Alear can't romance characters the same age as them.
>Teens cannot become boyfriend/girlfriend with other teens near their age in America
You can make Alear marry this guy though.
>Old man can romance an underaged character
>You can't romance a character that has the same age as you
So it's a pedo game. Got it
Its not a pedo game for that. Its a pedo game because pedos localized it.
Why should I believe you when you're a pedophile?
Exactly you homosexual. Drawings are real obviously.
Surely someone has that image of the 18 year old mug shot of a guy who fricked his 17 year old girlfriend.
Americans are right now an unholy mix of deeply ingrained conservative puritanism that hates sex and woke feminist garbage that hates sex and I mean mix, woke people are taught that a man having sex with girls under 18 is a sin worse than murder, even if the man is under 18 himself lmfao
> woke people are taught that a man having sex with girls under 18 is a sin worse than murder, even if the man is under 18 himself lmfao
moron
It's really funny how the wokes and christlarpers end up agreeing when it comes to muh heckin anime pornerino
It truly is the greatest politicBlack person filter.
It's pretty strange. /misc/ and Twitter even use a lot of the same memes.
Tribalists gonna tribal regardless of if their flag has a swastika or blue and pink stripes on it.
HORSESHOE
THEORY
This mean literally died over 4 years ago
How can it have died when homosexuals unironically go "stop heckin watching porn in the name of christ!!" exactly like the other homosexuals go "stop heckin watching porn in the name of respecting womyn!!"?
>false equivalence
It's not false unless belong to one of the two groups.
Long story short, you’re pretty much stupid
>No argument
Just admit you belong to one the two groups, Twittertard
The puritans have always been giga cancer. Power-tripping homosexuals, even after they became atheists they can't help themselves.
>Americans
Americans don’t give a frick if a 17 year old asiatic cartoon character wants to frick a 16 year old asiatic cartoon character. The Woke Mafia is pushing this shit, and they make up less than 1% of the population. Twitter isn’t representative of the population.
t. American that actually talks and builds connections with the average American every single day as part of his job. Most people are just down to earth and want themselves and others to be happy so long as it doesn’t bother them. Most people hate twitter.
yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, this kind of shit only happen when america is involved. If companies weren't making more money by pandering to the "woke mafia" they wouldn't give a shit about them. And if they were only 1% they wouldn't have this influence.
> yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, this kind of shit only happen when america is involved. If companies weren't making more money by pandering to the "woke mafia" they wouldn't give a shit about them.
They literally aren’t.
Look up Blackrock, anon. They are basically the 4th branch of government at this point and are the ones pushing this shit. Companies are literally getting paid to do work shit even though it kills sales most times.
>inb4 that’s not true people love woke shit
Manga is currently mogging comic books in sales because nobody wants woke shit. Woke Netflix shit keeps getting derided and flopping. Look at the fricking sales data.
Blackrock doesn't have a stake in Nintendo anymore do they? Also Saudi Arabia owns shares in Nintendo too you know.
They certainly do in localization companies.
Snoy shitposters as usual
A Nintendo exclusive is coming out, so it's shitposting overdrive.
Schizophrenic moment
Under 18? No romance for you.
I'm using male Alear for simplicity
Hortensia: English version, she is always surrounded by friends and Alear is jealous over that she might be playing with other people. She tells him to not worry, she will always have time for him since he is her special friend.
Japanese version, she is always surrounded by people and Alear is jealous since he wants to be her special one. She tells him to not worry since he is the only one who is special to her. Event also ends with her telling him that she loves him.
Celine: S support is surprisingly similar, it's just later at a wake up event she tells him that he told her brother that she has a friend that will always support her while in the Japanese version she tells her brother about their relationship and her brother gave them his blessing.
So in the English version he more or less proposed to her and she friendzoned him.
Citrinne: In the english version he gives her a ring as a symbol of their friendship, and in the Japanese version it's a symbol of his feelings towards her.
Framme: In the English version, stop being a fan and become my number 1 ally. In Japanese, stop being my fan and become my partner.
The game is super bare bones when it comes to support convos to begin with
Even the story is generic Saturday anime shit now
This is nothing to be crying over
Would you defend the changes? This question does not mean "does it matter?" or "do you like the game?" or "is the original text good?". The question is "would you defend the changes?".
Would you?
The question you should be asking homosexual is:
Do you cry over changes that don’t effect the moment to moment gameplay?
It’s just lines of dialogue
None of the girls with cleavage windows got their outfits censored
The homosexualry could be much, much worse
>didn't answer the question
Yeah, that's what I expected.
>it could be much worse
Cuck mentality.
You can't reason with these cucks, they change the language and evade the question
What really tickles me is the fact that he himself shits on the game, yet instead of teaming up with people who are also shitting on it, he gets all pissy that they're criticizing it "wrong".
>H-he should be teaming up with us in our crying!
Japanese dialogue is only romantic over there to begin with. What the frick is a special person? Nobody talks like that here. You want to be my partner? What kind of partner? Partner in a fricking competition?
You have to be a weeb to understand the connotation meant by being someone’s “special person” or “partner”
Sounds like some elementary romance shit on the schoolyard
Cry over real censorship
Not this weak shit
This game deserves to be pirated for things like day 0 season passes and the garbage by the numbers plot
>it was japan-hating
>again
why the frick do japan-haters gravitate to japanese games
Nice reading comprehension
>DUDE FRICKING JAPAN BRO I HATE JAPAN FRICKING WEEBS BRO FRICKING WEEEEEEBS
>plays fire emblem
What the frick is the brain damage of these people?
You okay there?
Probably more okay than the people who try to play Fire Emblem while crying about "weebs", I guess.
>You want to be my partner? What kind of partner? Partner in a fricking competition?
>You have to be a weeb to understand what partner means
You went too far, 0/10
That was a good line
They're altering the characters
>pretending to not understand what special person and partner mean in this context
have a nice day. NOW.
>You have to be a weeb to understand the connotation meant by being someone’s “special person” or “partner”
Yes, the term "special someone" does not exist in the English language and even if it did, no one would understand what it could possibly mean.
Keep seething
kys censorship apologist
pathetic bootlicker
kill
your
self
you censorship apologist
dilate
The fact that someone only took a smalller shit in my cereal than they could have does not change the fact that it is still there.
homosexual
troon
bring on the ROM mods for emulator chads
>And she friend zoned him
Well, that's the question. The girls already accepted his special ring with the same degree of passion; it could be possible that they're just speaking in vague terms and roundabout ways because they know Reddit is watching.
You can't even see their age ingame so there's literally no reason for all of this
Just because the ages don't show in game doesn't mean they don't exist. It's completely normal for Japanese games to include ages and other character details in artbooks, guidebooks, official websites, etc.
You're allowed to be a pedophile if you're above 18. The protagonist is 17, so that means he isn't allowed to get married with e-girls and hebes, they're property of the adults.
lmao
Seriously? There's a visual censorship too?
No, it's a photoshop, probably intended to cause confusion and delegitimize complaints.
Wouldn't be the first time
Proof?
Use your fricking eyeballs for proof, moron. If that's not enough, look at the datamined game files and see that there are no alternate versions of the pact ring CGs.
Stop reposting this shitty Photoshop.
>Is censorship getting more ridiculous?
yes. don't buy engage.
I haven’t seen Celinegay posting for the last couple of days. We joked about him getting friendzoned but didn’t realize it was literally going to happen. I hope he’s okay
why just bump their fricking ages to 18? is nintendo moronic? I mean a bunch of overly loud morons on a sri lankan tea leaf gathering forum barely even matter to them, but they literally have nothing to lose by making the protagonists legal adults
why not*
The last time Nintendo bumped up character ages they still censored the frick out of the game anyway.
Why does anyone still play Western localizations/releases at all? You don't have to put up with this shit.
Not true in this case.
The Japanese Switch version got the same levels of butt-fricked that the US release did
Once again, Americans ruin everything. There is now no definitive version of this garbage title.
That was just Nintendo/Atlus being to lazy to undo their shit, not that it matters since the game bombed everywhere again and pushed the team to make SH2. Which also bombed.
>Once again, Americans ruin everything.
Not entirely the fault of America. Nintendo has a boner for being viewed as a family-friendly console. They are dialing back the censorship in recent years after they were lax for a half-decade.
>after they were lax for a half-decade
I don't know where you're seeing this. Was it not as bad as FE Fates? Yes. Does that mean that Xenoblade 2 wasn't censored in localization? No.
XB2 wasn't censored at all when it launched. They added the pantyhose option after the characters were added in Smash and Nintendo realized they were too lewd for their brand.
It's not just XB2 they have a bunch of lewd titty games in the store that they never would have associated with in the past.
If that's your argument for saying Xenoblade 2 wasn't censored then by that same logic Fire Emblem Engage wasn't censored either. We're talking about censorship in text here.
What censorship in the text are you talking about? Specifically.
Localizing names is not really censorship. Also, I never played it with the English dub. I know the subs are for the English dub but I know when they are inaccurate.
Not him but they toned down and removed a lot of the sexual jokes.
Fair enough. At least they didn't censor the models like they usually do, nor anything as egregious as picrel.
>fricking up names isn't localized goyslop
I still remember the "thirstquench" empire.
going to battle with the Allucaneat Kingdom
I remember people arguing over Chrom's Vigilantes being localized as the Shepards that the Grimleal should have been Wolves.
I feel like it's like back in the day when Nintendo would throw the word bounty hunter around liberally for glorified mercenaries(except for that one Captain Falcon comic where he does kill a dude to collect his bounty), that a kinda-unofficial gendarmerie needs a softer title than Vigilantes, even though, yes, at the end of the day, Chrom's team are mostly people fricking around in the woods having barbecues, fighting bandits and Plegians and have a life outside of that, and somehow through sheer pluck and grit manage to take out exponentially larger forces, thwart a zombie apocalypse, and defeat the biggest goddamn dragon in the entire series.
>I feel like it's like back in the day when Nintendo would throw the word bounty hunter around liberally for glorified mercenaries(except for that one Captain Falcon comic where he does kill a dude to collect his bounty), that a kinda-unofficial gendarmerie
Tbh sometimes this kind of thing is because the western audience (mostly amerisharts) is confused easily and might complain that the "story was too hard to follow." You have to dumb it down because there are a lot of ignorant people playing these games.
>dub but I know when they are inaccurate.
everything was alerted and rewritten you ultra moron
>names
>dirty jokes
>OMFG THEY CHANGED EVERYTHING NOOOOOO
It's the same fricking game you spergy homosexual. Same storyline, the same characters, same booba bunny. They toned down the "jokes" and localized a few things. The tone of the game didn't change. The content of the game is all in there. Give me examples of the main script, as in the actual plot of the game being altered. Otherwise, shut the frick up.
You could say the same thing for Engage and then this thread would be moot. Obviously people still consider changes like that censorship.
It's not like I'm pro-censorship. I would fire every localizer working for Nintendo if I had the chance. However, there is a difference between changing a name like Hikari and Homura to Mythra and Pyra and straight-up re-writing or removing entire scenes of dialogue like they have done on FE since Fates.
As shit as Engages bullshit is it will never be the level of fricking Fates
This was back when they had that feminist pedo working at three houses. iirc she got fired after people sent Nintendo screenshots of some of her spicy tweets.
>straight-up re-writing or removing entire scenes of dialogue
They did the same exact thing with the Heart-to-Hearts in Xenoblade 2, especially the ones with Tora or Hana
Are you talking about the scene where Tora and Hana are discussing Tora's grandpa and his reason for making her? Because while it was altered, it basically had the same meaning. You do have a point with that one thought, it was probably the most obvious one, iirc. I still think the game was pretty tame and the dialogue localization was mostly inoffensive bar your example and the dirty jokes like the bunny custom one with Hana.
Can someone tell me how to play fates completely uncensored (I have a modded 3ds). I see the rom on Hshop that says *undub* but I want to play a version that has all of the cut content that's in the jp version and is in English.
dubgays frick off and play butchered version, because you're already accepting butchered voices.
I don't want the english dub just text so that I can understand. Anyways I found an uncensored version on hshop. Have a good day friend
What is this uncensored version you're referring to in hshop? I only see the undub. To my understanding all that does is add the swimsuits and japanese voices.
From what I was reading about the undub it looks like they took the japanese version and just added an english dub so I was under the impression that all content was available in the (undub) I could be wrong though I'm downoading it now. The same one is on Ziperto and seems to have everything
I asked basically the same question on /feg/ and somebody just told me back in the day they'd played the japanese version with an (incomplete) english patch.
Makes sense to me since it sounds simpler to patch in english text into the jap version than patching in all the cut content and voices into the english one.
Which is exactly the case for Engage but this and many other threads were still made to complain about it
The swimsuits are there, the breasts are there, everything is there, the only thing supposedly changed were a few unimportant lines of dialogue, most of which you won’t even see in one playthrough since you can only S support one character anyway
While I agree that it's pretty fricking disingenuous that Engage got such an outcry but other games got nothing, I still wouldn't say that one shouldn't complain about it.
The censorship in Xenoblade 2 was arguably worse than anything Fire Emblem got after Fates. No Engage censorship isn't even close to Fates..
>The censorship in Xenoblade 2 was arguably worse than anything Fire Emblem got after Fates.
This is categorically false. There isn't an entire scene in the game that comes close to the webm I posted. Not even the most ridiculous blade side quests. I put 500 hours into XB2, so you can try that line with someone that hasn't actually played the game and they might believe you.
Are there alterations to the text in the game? Absolutely. Are they substantial enough to change the entire personality or flow of the story? No.
Anon I said, AFTER Fates. Obviously Fates was totally butchered in localization.
My bad, I haven't put as many hours into Three Houses and I barely played Echos so you might be right. If that's the case it can't be that bad because whatever "censorship" there was in XB2 was pretty superficial.
>i-it's not that big of a deal bro, they just censored it a little bit
have a nice day scum
While I don’t give a single frick since I’m S supporting Ivy anyway, that post was just using the logic that Xenoblade 2 wasn’t censored
Think it’s the fact that there’s censorship there to begin with
The game has become Frankenstein monster’d in some way and altered due to some Californian virtue signal homosexual to show how much they aren’t a kiddy diddler to everyone
When it’s own record that they usually are the ones that actually diddle kids so they feel the need to virtue signal so hard
Personally, I’m only liking the big boobed onee-sans that are of legal age apparently, so altered S supports don’t effect me as much, but I’m on the fence on whether or not to buy or emulate
I don’t want to support censorship AT ALL
Censorship or alterations made by localization is cancer that needs to stop
Even if it involves some anon not being able to have his e-girl say she loves him or some shit
We get it bro you're a pedo.
He's a localizer?
Only with your mom on roleplay night when I have her dress up as a school girl
The self-insert losers can go to hell, for all i care. And the pedos should be helped going there as fast as possible.
But it's fricking moronic to censor a 17 years old getting together with another 17 years old. Especially when their age isn't even mentioned in the game, so all the players can see is that they are about the same.
I also dislike that any non-alear character can have a relationship only with alear.
But yes, it's clear that in the rotten minds of the developers alear is meant to be an avatar, which is why everyone else can love ONLY them. Both those who write this shit and everyone who actually like this should be interned.
True. It's the fact that they're willing to alter characterization over this shit.
I'll copy paste one post from yesterday
>Homura and Hikari are Holy Grails. Everything in this game is either a reference to Christian symbol.
>Many scenes were a clear re-interpretation of Holy Bible scenes (old and new testament). Just lookat the symbolic of numer 3. Everthing was based on this number.
>3 combo, 3 active characters, 3 blades. Homura, Hikari and Pneuma are one in 3 forms.
>There was many references to shinto philosphy and Chinese and Japanese folklore that was removed too.
>Like major blades - Byakko, Suzaku, Seiryuu and Genbu - 4 guardians of heaven.
>There's literally a pope that was killed too.
>and all arusu (big beasts that people lived on them) were named after 7 deadly sins too originally
>And it's really just a tip of the culturalzion iceberg. And this just about symbolics.
>I didn't even start writing about translation bullshit and how they butchered all characters and dynamics between characters.
If this is just
>names
>dirty jokes
Then it only shows how fricking moronic you actually are. have a nice day censorship/localization apologist.
Anyway, altered names alone are fricking atrocious. This? This is just abomination.
inb4
>it's not a censorship this is how localization works
Kill fricking yourself
I hate people like you even more than these morons who are localizing the games.
Nice source, I'll definitely trust your schizobabble now!
What the source you want you fricking moron? I played it and this is exactly how Xenoblade 2 is. You said you understand Japanese and you can tell if the TL was inaccurate. But you don't even know about something as obvious as all these mentioned changes.
>schizobabble
I played Xenoblade 2 fully in Japanese and everything mentioned in this post is as it was in the original script. But there are still a lot of other changes missing on that list if it comes to lore.
>Many scenes were a clear re-interpretation of Holy Bible scenes (old and new testament). Just lookat the symbolic of numer 3. Everthing was based on this number.
>3 combo, 3 active characters, 3 blades. Homura, Hikari and Pneuma are one in 3 forms.
This is reaching harder than a gay man in prison
Yeah, be denial about facts. Holy cow. Localization apologists are even bigger morons than dub Black folk.
Anon, 3 playable characters are not holy trinity symbomism. That's just a mechanical limitation.
Don't forget the gender stereotypes they kept toning down or the terrible dub that completely butchers certain characters' personalities
>Don't forget the gender stereotypes they kept toning down
Oh yeah, they fricking love doing that shit everywhere, in anime and in games. A girl says "don't go easy on me just because I'm a girl"? UH OH, THAT'S HECKIN BAD, IT IMPLIES DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GIRLS AND BOYS, TIME TO LOCALIZE
I bet you are not stronger than the average girl, in a fight
NTA, but you clearly have never actually tried to restrain or “fight” a woman. Men are ridiculously stronger than them on average, yes that includes men that are out of shape. I dont work out at all (I intend to start soon though), and I can very easily man handle my wife, who is probably stronger than the average woman in her upper body because she’s a physical therapist assistant and basically lifts people all day. Body mechanics and all that jazz, she still is more built in upper body then most women I know at least.
We have “play wrestled” and done arm wrestling stuff before and I was surprised at how easy it is for my out of shape ass to restrain her. Granted, she has asthma and loses endurance quickly, but like I barely have to try to keep her from moving.
You would have to be pathetically frail or morbidly obese to lose to a girl in a straight fight dude. There is a reason they teach girls to aim for the dick/throat
>XB2 wasn't censored at all when it launched
Yeah, especially that it was completely rewritten in the west. Everything. Names, lore and all dialogue.
But it was? Porn mags, the bikini armor, among other scenes
Sure they didn’t censor models but neither did Engage
I didnt know about this.....
No wonder that dungeon with the ugly nig in it made no sense.
Was it really Nintendo who fricked this game over?
It would highlight the absurdity of the whole thing and they wouldn't get to appeal to Twittergays taking the moral highground.
The characters don't even have canonical ages. There are "ages" listed in some of the game files that are not accessible through gameplay, but they're obviously not correct (the wrinkly old lady character is listed as 35, for instance)
>(the wrinkly old lady character is listed as 35, for instance)
That sounds right though?
Rosado is supposed to be 17, is his S support censored too?
Yes.
Fricking dogshit western censor garbage.
just play on JP
>Alear is a hagchad
>This makes people seethe
Engage is a Unity game, right? It'll be trivial to undo all of Treehouse's shitty changes with a simple translation patch - after all the Japanese dub should be intact. Tweaking the translation to be accurate should be easy.
Reminder that when TMS got localized they actually got the VAs to record new lines to address the age change for the localization.
The Japanese VA's? Really? That sounds like bullshit to me. Why would they bother to get the Japanese VAs to rerecord lines just for the tiny percentage of people who would play the English version, with the Japanese audio, and actually understand Japanese well enough to notice the discrepancy between the translation and the Japanese script?
TMS was Japanese audio only. But he's right, they redubbed the line where Tsubasa says her age in the western release.
Engage is fully multi-language though.
>That sounds like bullshit to me.
But it's true. I played on Wii U and used uncensored version. They fixed many things. Along with restored ages and whole rewritten chapter. It's a shame that Switch version is butchered worldwide.
>mfw all the charas I'd like to marry are 18+
Feels good to be an hag chad.
>Is censorship getting more ridiculous?
Not really no. This is pretty lame but in terms of censorship this is way less worse than what they were doing even just a couple of years ago.
Yeah, and it's always the same thing too. Something gets censored and a bunch of twitter pronoun people come out to say
>UMMMMM IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD SWEATY, THAT HECKIN GROSSERINO JAPANESE SHIT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED 🙂
and then the "neutral third parties" follow with the
>ummmm who cares lol it doesn't matter lol ur creepy and gross lol it's such a minor thing bro lol why do you care lol lol lol
Pretty much yea. And the West's perception of the characters and dialogue will be irreparably altered
Fire Emblem Engage torrent is now live.
https://nyaa.si/view/1625787
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[Emulators]
Yuzu
https://github.com/pineappleEA/liftinstall/releases/tag/v1.0.0
Ryujinx
https://ryujinx.org/download
Can a laptop handle emulating this?
It depends on your CPU for the most part. A friend with an old i5-4670 (I think) could play 3H without any issues - not at 60 FPS, but whatever - so if your laptop isn't ancient, it might be possible.
Are the Japanese text and voices available in this release?
My yuzu get random crashes when exploring the map.
Do we know if languages other than English have the same issue? Is it just dialogue changes.
13 sentinels's Spanish/French/Italian/German localizations had a script much closer to the original for example.
From what I've read, they're all basing it off of Treehouse's for some reason
So what's even the difference between English (US) and English (Europe) in the options?
If you pick Europe you have to get a licence before you can use your sword
Europe uses British English spelling (colour, centre, etc)
>Is censorship getting more ridiculous?
No. Removing content catering to pedophiles should be an industry standard.
But there was no transgender content to remove?
>teenager MCmarrying teenager
>pedo shit, censor that now!
>teenager MC marrying 35 year
>completely fine, nothing wrong with this
The censonrship is unrelated to Alear, it's only there so that (You) can't fullfil your pedo fantasy of marring a 14 year old. So yes, it's good.
But the "pedo" fantasy is still there, a 35 year gets to marry a 17 year old in game, according to you we should care about fictional characters' ages after all
avatar is not a character, he is just there for you to self insert
is that the cope they're using now?
>give valid argument
>"y-y-you are just c-c-c-coping..."
concession accepted
It's literally not valid since Alear is his own character
It's pretty moronic logic, considering just from FE3H you have loads of porn of Dimitri with Femleth. Alear is an actual voiced character too.
Treehouse morons being fricking dunces as usual.
The treehouse localizer who has a hard-on for pickles is back in Engage and has affixed it to Clanne's personality
Frick no, please tell me you're joking
Here a BGM Gamerip for FE Engage,now on opus so you dont need extra tool to listen to this
should have every version of map theme+battle varartion as well unless i missed it.
https://mega.nz/file/u18GwZAR#tVMBzoKjppPWa5jC59olqTMZpABRsppGZ8P8CWil_14
Outdone themselves? They hardly changed a thing outside of toning down a few S-Rank conversations into something more platonic/comradely. If there exists something more egregious, then please give examples of exactly what was changed, with both Japanese and Western sources for comparison.
>she's heckin underagearino! she's only 17 you sick fricks! mods!!!!1
have a nice day you absolute morons.
hiya papaya emblemfriends
is there any way to change the weapon details to show the stats of the weapon itself rather than what the stats will be after its equipped?
treehouses transsexuals working double shifts to besmirch engage's good name
first it was the artstyle whinging, now it's no pedo whinging
none of those special needs people has a single opinion on actual gameplay
>actual gameplay
>rock paper scissors checkers
lol
congrats you've managed to simplify a lot of the gameplay loop, you're on your merry way to actually enjoy rock paper scissors checkers now
Kind of funny that Fire Emblem Heroes has literal child brides and an undreage girl who is clearly for (You) (Fjorm) but console FEs have to be dumbed down because the localization staff are ran by blue hair obese twitter addicts.
>4kids intro
>shit story
>vtuber character design
>gacha mechanics
God I miss Koei Tecmo
I'm still buying it lol
If I knew how to emulate, I wouldn’t be buying it
Sadly I am a brainlet, so I will buy it and support blue haired check marked localization teams in some manner
But I am proud to report I didn’t buy Samurai Maidens when they censored the photo mode and all sorts of aspects
Can’t win them all
I’ve been excited for this game since it was announced
>Samurai Maidens
That one was even worse because you can literally unlock concept art that shows skimpier bathing suits than what was included in the game. Also the censorship was across all versions while here in Engage you can literally just have the JP dub on to listen to the real lines.
I would still hope people b***h to Treehouse
Don't worry, I will. I hope nintendo fires some of them again like after fates.
>I hope nintendo fires some of them again like after fates.
They didn't fire anyone after Fates though.
No. The WHOLE tree needs to burned to the ground, with no traces left.
Oh no sure, it would be my pleasure. It's just, as far as censorship goes this is very minor even compared to some Nintendo games of the Switch era. Still complainworthy of course.
I know it's small, but still it alters the characters and aspects of the story. And like 3H there are also a lot of other bits changed throughout for petty reasons.
I just don't think they should be given an inch.
Yeah I know, but as you say this also happened to 3 Houses, and also the Xenoblade games and Famicom Detective Club so it's not like this is anything new. But if it gets people to complain publicly about Treehouse then that's cool.
>If I knew how to emulate, I wouldn’t be buying it
What? emulating is so easy now that if you can't i would worry about having some mental damage, download emulator, download switch firmware, download game, put game in a folder of your choice, set the path of games to that folder in the emulator, done
>17 is just a child and literal pedophilia, but not 18 that is totally different and A-okay!
How do people genuinely believe this nonsense? Normalgays spouting this shit is giving me brainrot, I swear.
You are absolutely right.
Age of consent in america should be ATLEAST 21 years.
18 year olds and under don't have their brains developed enough to make this decision yet.
Women's brains never develop so the age of consent for them should be at least 35
it got extra censored in the west and remember that they already pre-censor everything in Japan
these fricking bastards are literally never happy, their ruin the Japanese product sending woke teams to Japan to pre-censor everything and then they censor it again when localizing, I fricking hate women (they are literally the only reason why all this garbage is happening)
Doesn't Engage have way more visual fanservice than 3H though?
Yes, other than bland panty shots that you have to go out of your way to get glimpses of in 3H.
I don't get what you're trying to say from that image. Xeno 2 ended up to be the most fanservice-y of the series.
Though in retrospect they kinda tone it down again in 3.
imagine how it would have been without that team of censors being sent to Japan
and after botw and xb2 every switch game has been super safe thanks to those american woke teams getting more and more involved, Japanese developers can't make games in the way they want to anymore
But Engage has way more fanservice than 3 Houses.
>I fricking hate women (they are literally the only reason why all this garbage is happening)
Nah, Nintendo's two most prominent localisation managers are Nich Maragos and Nate Bihldorff, and they're both nu-males.
Though of course you could argue that they're the way they are because they think it'll get them women.
https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Nate_Bihldorff
Nate Bihldorff isn't even part of the localization team anymore.
And Nich Maragos is a grunt, he's not part of Localization Management. There were about 20 other grunts with him localizing the game together.
>Nate Bihldorff isn't even part of the localization team anymore.
That list is incomplete, he was in Three Houses' credits as localisation management, along with being localisation management on #FE. Reiko Ninomiya, Scot Ritchey, and Rich Amtower were also in the same group on both titles, so it's safe to say they're all people bent on fricking things up.
>And Nich Maragos is a grunt, he's not part of Localization Management. There were about 20 other grunts with him localizing the game together.
Difference is that Maragos is an actual Treehouse employee, whereas a lot of the staff listed in these credits are the contractors who aren't distinguished. Hell, Fates' credits didn't even distinguish between the grunts and management.
Nate's last localization game was Bowser's Fury for Switch, him doing an earlier title doesn't change the fact that he's no longer part of that process, also nice schizo theory.
>Maragos is an actual Treehouse employee
b***h who do you think I meant when I said grunt? The Treehouse employees and the contractors do the same thing job-wise, and Engage's credits show who was Localization Management and who is just NOA Localization, aka translators aka grunts.
Ah yes, Nich Maragos. The guy who tweeted about how he never wanted Senran Kagura to come to the west.
Wasnt this guy convicted of something?
Almost every male feminist turns out to be some kind of pedo of wife beater.
I thought the left winged mob wanted that though? It's why their fighting so hard to put maps under the lgbt flag isnt it
They claim they hate pedos, while also fighting to make pedos sexuality, while also letting grown men dress as women and let toddlers sit on their lap during drag queen story hours, while also telling children it's okay to cut their penises off, while also teaching children about gay sex and all sorts of kinks.
The left is pure Chaos right now. I don't think they actually stand for anything, they seem to be heading towards absolute anarchy.
This must be a citadel version of him trying to mess with his image
Do wr have all the text for the changed stuff anywhere? I want to see how badly they fricked it up.
Is there a point in keeping an engage ring on someone after hitting bond level 10? Or should I move it into someone else immediately so I don’t waste opportunities for bond exp
Someone else immediately unless you need that unit's power to clear the map.
Emblem paralogues later raise that cap to lvl20.
>Gameplay wasn't altered
>Story isn't fricked up
>Only several lines of text that only moronic nu-FEgays care about
don't care. still buying it.
Old school FEgays aren't playing this game either.
I'm playing it right now. I'm not enjoying it very much.
>Story isn't fricked up
Only because it was garbage to begin with.
We went from 3H to another Fates.
>We went from 3H to another Fates.
Implying 3H story wasn't also garbage.
3H had great characters and this is the most important aspect. Especially in Japanese games, that are always carried by characters, not stories.
>enable 60FPS
emulated game runs extremely stable on ryu
nice
also alear has FAT FAT breasts
Can I change language to jap?
Yes, multiple translations in different languages. Also dual audio in English and Japanese.
Noice.
But which translation isn’t censored?
The Europe one?
Supposedly, some of the Euro languages aren't censored.
Interesting
Guess I’m a European now
>enable 60FPS
borderline unplayable because of cursor speed
>his brains can't handle eye-hand coordination past 30 fps
>enable 60fps
h-how?
i's broken don't do it
the game has issues and stuttering on both emulators as well
disable vsync on ryujinx
set it to 60 on nvidia control panel
regret doing it
set it to 45
crash in somniel
thanks anon
runs at double speed tho
Besides the censorship, the game isn't very good either. Good thing I pirated it.
Did 3 Houses get this much attention over the censorship? I feel like that was memory holed.
But is the gameplay good? I don't give a shit about romance nonsense in Fire Emblem, never did, never will.
>But is the gameplay good?
Nope. It's ok, but way too easy. The only good thing the game has going for it is how good it looks. Too bad the character themselves have never been worse designed.
Are the romance/platonic friendship dialogues even good?
No, I'm not supporting censorship (no pun intended), I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Fire Emblem has not once had a well written storyline, let alone a singular character, let alone a relationship between two characters. They censored dogshit, but didn't lie about selling dogshit, and you still bought it. Maybe your priorities are a little fricked, yeah?
It's an awful precedence. Fire Emblem games have terrible stories, I do prefer when they're less bad but it's not what I look for in these games. But this type of censorship is totally nonsensical and treehouse should not be allowed to get away with it in this day and age. It goes beyond the usual virtue signaling the company does and if they can do that they can do anything.
Very true.
How many people that agree with you do you think will not purchase the game in an effort to set their own precedence? Not many, I imagine.
i would have but i can't cancel my pre-order thanks to nintendo's anti-consumer eshop
This confuses me because I now wonder if you even played previous Fire Emblem games or other Nintendo rpgs? Not talking about old ones, I mean games that game out on the Switch.
>Emblem has not once had a well written storyline, let alone a singular character, let alone a relationship between two characters.
*blocks your path*
>censorship doesn't matter because the gamd is shit
it sets a precedent
Which quality do you prioritize? If a FPS with great gameplay mechanics came out, but inexplicably was censored in the form of blood splatters or NPC chatter, would the game be worse? Of course. But the game itself is still there, and it sucks that the seasoning is gone, but it's still a fantastic cut of steak.
Fire Emblem is anal excretion on a plate in a restaurant that forgot to buy salt. Maybe the salt isn't the biggest issue, however?
That was the point. Set your own precedent for better reasons than the lack of a basic framework written in a weekend for you to fill in the gaps with your own headcanon and focus on how the SRPG elements of the series are absolutely fricking horrible, unchallenging, and unengaging (again, no pun intended).
If that's your problem then why don't you focus on spreading the word about how bad the game is, instead of uselessly picking fights with people who also complain but about things you consider "inconsequential"? Why antagonize them instead of trying to work with them?
we already have Blood DLC for Total War and it's also unjustifiable
It doesn't actually, this game just follows a precedent set by many previous games.
>WE WUZ KANGZ
I don't care either way but I'm curious what the people against censorship about the whole black Knight thing in Tellius, where do you draw the line?
I haven't seen this many people outraged at the changed localization stuff in Three Houses or Xenoblade 2 so I feel like a large part of it is just bandwagoners.
sorry bros eshop won't let me cancel my pre-order cause the game releases tomorrow
So a 18 year old can't date a 17 year old?
An 18 year old can't marry a 17 year old in states like California, which this game is being sold in.
They can't be married but they could still be in a relationship due to romeo and juliet laws
No that's fine in Engage.
A 17 year old can date an 18 year old.
But a 17 year old can't date a 17 year old.
A 17 year old can't date anyone younger than 18, that would be immoral, for some reason.
So i get there are people playing this game right now? If so, how is the maddening difficulty? Is it 3H bullshit level?
Only recent FE game with a decent story I can remember is Echoes.
anyone that plays as fem alear is a secondary
are there lesbian romances as fem MC?
dont know dont care
feels good liking older women
>MC is a teenager
>Can't date other teenagers or people his own age
>Can only date adults
What exactly was Treehouse thinking with this?
>game for teenagers
>teenagers can't self-insert as a teenager dating other teenagers
treehouse are groomers. that's the angle that should be pushed
Is it true they changed all the CGs in the game? Couldn't they just have made every character 18 like they did with Lyn and call it a day?
The game is the same across all regions, the dialogue lines are what's censored.
What a waste, seems like padding for work to justify having many useless employees
No, but all minors don't have the ring on the ring finger but the middle finger.
That could be something that has been censored if it was demanded by the west, and that will probably be in all versions.
Don't really effect anything text wise, but they really don't want anything romantic with character under 18.
What? Are you citing that photoshopped Anna pic?
No, it was just something that was noticed at first when all platonic S support had the ring on another finger for some reason.
It was just a little later people saw the pattern and it was an age thing instead.
Anna and Jean would likely never have worn the ring any way. They just hold it.
That's a different kind of ring, you're not supposed to wear that on your ring finger I'm pretty sure?
In the first place, what does Hortensia say in her support and when you give her the ring?
All adults that is wearing it has it on the ring finger.
In the Japanese text Hortensia is just a little unsure if she can accept it since it means she will be the Divine Dragon's partner.
lgbt shit. I hate japan
I hate troonmericans so much.
NoA is pretty fricking dumb but what kind of mental illness makes one so opinionated over romance options in a FE game ?
Just play the Japanese version. You CAN read Japanese...right?
Playing the Japanese version won't remove the inherent infection that keeps crawling deeper and deeper into Japanese games.
You won't be able to hide inside Japanese versions forever. If you let these people keep representing "the west", Jap corpos will eventually decide it's more cost-effective to censor at the production stage.
But this game is more ''Japanese'' than 3 Houses was.
Then why buy it?
Why indeed? Not sure why you ask me that question though.
You should voice your complaints to the treehouse team and let them know why you aren't buying it.
I agree, though personally I'd rather find a way to contact the JP branch instead as there's no guarantee Treehouse won't be infected all the way through.
Both would be ideal though.
That wraps around to needing to know Japanese, because I don't know how well a Google translated message would go over.
But thank you for agreeing with me. One thing that always bothers me about censorship threads is people treating it like an ineffectual rage cage, preaching to the choir about how censorship is bad and companies need to stop doing it while simultaneously complaining that it keeps getting worse and doing nothing to project their voice beyond the thread. I don't know if there's much one can really do since everything falls back to the localizers themselves, but doing anything is better than sitting with our collective thumbs up our asses and complaining about how things never get better.
That's futile.
Message Nintendo of Japan and tell them you're pirating the game and telling others to do so too because of NOA's censorship.
NOJ goes fricking ballistic over piracy, it will work if they get a mass of messages about it
You can't do that because mail without the sender's address on it gets ignored and saying something like that while being able to be traced back is foolish. Saying that this will CAUSE more piracy is probably better, won't incriminate yourself.
moron just say you're John Doe from 123 fake str.
They want an address, they don't care if it's fake, and it isn't illegal.
>it's more cost-effective to censor at the production stage.
that is just called development
>Playing the Japanese version won't remove the inherent infection that keeps crawling deeper and deeper into Japanese games.
example
Fire Emblem Engage
True. They already made the Japanese devs alter the ACTUAL assets, then. It's not entirely the localization
Japan is doomed, the popular anime from last year featured gay marriage, dykes, and homosexual Black folk
And Japan and Ganker eat that slop up
What was it?
I am writing a letter to my regions Nintendo headquarters right now, I hope you all are doing the same.
I'm more disappointed with her and the rest of the hounds not being recruitable, it's a crime for designs like this to go to waste.
the main reason I'm not picking up engage.
That you my fellow Zephiabro? I found out the same last night, fricking crushed me. Allegedly she might be DLC with Camilla thought? Not a fan of Camilla, but I'll do what I need to get my girl.
The corresponding flatout shows her die with Griss and Marnie dies in a different one. The devs are going to have to retcon that hard to make this make sense.
I wouldn't mind her being non-canon, but I also don't know if she will be available in the dlc, mainly because it's going to be something new and with new classes. Even if it focuses on the kingdom she is part of.
I don't disagree entirely, but man...I just want to see her more.
Most likely we will only see more of her in heroes. (in case the dlc doesn't involve her and the rest of the hounds)
She is a dragon too, but of a different species and is working for the game's villain, along with the rest of the hounds that she considers as family. She is also over 2000 years old.
What’s the deal with her anyways? Is she actually a dragon like Alear? If so, where did she come from?
They did the same thing with Aversa
Aversa at least was available lategame.
As a non-canon spotpass DLC. She straight up dies in Awakening
Ah that's right, I could not remember if she was Spotpass DLC or not.
That Aversa DLC was weird. If you’re a female Robin her support talks about how horny she is for Chrom despite him guaranteed to be married by the time you get her and you and her fight over him like you’re the one that’s married to him even though that could not be the case
I am once again asking for anyone to provide me with a legitimate reason to dislike the game other than a few lines of text not being the same.
romancegays are obviously mentally unwell
just let them seethe in peace
The music is such a letdown, right from the get-go in 3H, you had As Swift as Wind and Fodlan Winds playing but in Engage, none of the music has been engaging so far and I'm at chapter 5.
That’s entirely subjective, but I’ll give you that, even though I hold the opposite opinion.
Only one route or are there more?
Besides writing a letter I am also planning on showing up at my local Nintendo headquarters which are like an hour away. If any anons are in the Seattle area I'd recommend you do the same at the NoA headquarters, maybe even bring a picket sign and megaphone if you wanna be extra attention grabbing.
One postage stamp is around 85 cents here, I guess I'll probably prepare 5 letters at first and send more depending on how and if they answer.
so I can't romance her?
You will hear her say that she loves you in Japanese, but the English subtitles will say that you're a special friend to her.
She will friend zone you.
Give her a ring and says you will support her no matter what decision she makes, and she will tell you that you are a true friend.
You got friendzoned after all Celinegay
Dubgays truly have NO EXCUSE anymore. Literally inferior trash version.
Dub trash is always an inferior trash version though.
there was the time when dubs weren't
>Literally inferior trash version.
?
Not really, but this is just an ultimate BTFO to all of their arguments.
If you said 3H it would have made sense.
so what romances were axed? Need to know whether i should bother pirating or not
Framme
Clanne
Etie
Celine
Alcryst
Citrinne
Fogato
Hortensia
Rosado
Anna
Jean
Veyle
These should be the ones in which either Alear friend zones them or they friend zones Alear
>Citrinne
Dropped
thanks
don't care
>don't care
are you seriously so in need to feel loved by something you'd endure 20 hours of an rpg just for a throwaway line ?
this goes beyond cringe
are you seriously so in need to feel validated by others you'd endure 10 hours of a thread just for an epic zinger post?
this goes beyond cringe
the fricking projection on this one lmao
>projection
Literally just "no u" for people too pretentious to say "no u".
I'm literally calling out the entire thread and Ganker for being fricking moronic about emphasizing fricking romance in a FE game this much and apparently I want to feel validated lmao
by fricking who ?
>i'm calling out
To who? Hm? Do you understand what "calling out" means? You are drawing attention to something...WHOSE attention?
>replies to me
>WHOSE attention?
you have my validation too anon 😉
I wasn't gonna play coz of censorship anyways. but if it doesn't affect what i'm doing i might as well give it a chance 🙂
unironically cringe
ywnbaw
So what's Rosado's deal? I heard some shit about him actually being a trans man or something
I am confused why people are saying the 17 and younger S ranks being platonic is a localization change. Isn't it the same in the JP version? don't most of those characters not wear the ring s on their ring finger if you S rank them?
>>MID_FRIENDLIST_Rosado_TextS: Life with Rosado: Praises thenDivine Dragon's cutenessndaily, capturing it in manynflattering portraits. Asnpromised, he keeps thenPact Ring with him at allntimes and wears it happily.
Pic is the JP version of this.
what is it exactly in the localization?
>MID_FRIENDLIST_Rosado_TextS: Life with Rosado: Praises thenDivine Dragon's cutenessndaily, capturing it in manynflattering portraits. Asnpromised, he keeps thenPact Ring with him at allntimes and wears it happily.
This is the localized text. The original JP one is the image in
That line from Hortensia is:
>Because if all that wasn't true, you wouldn't be so special to me.
In the English version.
Hortnseia S support has a different tone in English and Japanese.
In the English version Alear is jealous she is spending time with other friends, and in the Japanese he is jealous that people are flocking around her.
And the reason people are coming to her is in the English version it's just that she is kind and in the Japanese version she is trying to be both a better person and to look more attractive.
They are trying to remove romance in in any way they can, so in the English version it's just a childish thing with my popular friend might not play with me anymore while in the Japanese one it's that she is getting noticed by other people and might get taken by someone else.
So in the end, in both version Alear is special to her, but in English he is just special to her and she will make time to play with him while in the Japanese version it doesn't matter how much the other people likes her it's he's the one that is special to her.
>JP: wears it when it's just the two of you
>Eng: wears it all the time
Oh so jp rosado is just on the DL, weird change
>Let it (the ring) serve as a reminder of our everlasting friendship then
You're literally just friends in the localization and even the ending states you remained friends.
It feels more special if he wears it when it's just you two though
>only wears the sign that he's taken when in private
>advertises that he's single in public
JP version is unironically worse. Rosado is a prostitute.
Sis, you'd know that most of the characters don't actually wear the ring if you read through the files
They are not platonic in Japanese, a character literally says "I love you" straight into Alear face(あなたはこのあたしが惚れ込んだ相手なんだから!これからも自信を持ってなさい。だーい好きよ!).
And "friends" parts aren't there either.
Just because the ring isn't on the ring finger doesn't mean it's not romantic. And why it's is probably so they don't need two art assets for the versions.
>だーい好きよ
Daisuki is a pretty big deal. It literally means I love you. I though that they went suki. There's no excuse for western morons in burgerland to alter it to friend.
"Daisuki" coming from a 14 year old girl actually isn't a big deal. Especially not in the current day. Energetic/sociable kids tell their friends that they love them with daisuki.
imagine
Did they modify art or assets? Text does not bother me to much. Text is always easy to fix/work around.
Shouldn't have used google translate, reads horribly.
I'd rather the game be primarily tactics focused and have a linear storyline without the excessive paired up shit, but I won't buy this because I can't fricking stand having americans neuter the original vision of things. The voice actors all suck too.
The funniest part is people getting mad at the evil dragon plot
This is pure SOUL
just send something like ''im not buying it cause it's censored'', weird schizo rants don't have the imapct you think
No one actually likes this new FE right? You’re all just saying it because TH wasn’t good right?
>No one actually likes this new FE right?
I've been saying that since 3H's release and I'm still surprised
>because TH wasn’t good right?
It was a fun game and had a fun story for a playthrough. Good music, too. This new one looks like genshin impact shit.
Cadence is a bit odd since it's GT'd, in particular the "The censorship is that some characters in the game may have relationships with the main character at all times" bit, but kudos to you for making an effort to make a difference.
Drop the last two lines though. They come across as way too aggressive with "inferior translations from Redmond Washington" and "why this game was mutilated by you." It starts reading like an emotional piece at that point.
Feel like it sounded less bad in German, but yeah I toned it down a little bit.
>it sounded less bad in German
kek, probably was like 10 times worse
>you need a Switch to use Yuzu/Ryujinx
🙁
>he doesn't know
Sucks but it's the price to pay to legally emulate your games, as we all do.
Dumbest post in the thread
Congratulations
I hate that so many people come with the argument that "BUT THE CENSORSHIP ISN'T EVEN THAT BAD BRO". That's not the point moron. The game shouldn't be censored at all. No game's western release should be different than the standard Japanese release. If the uncensored version has something that offends you then simply don't play the game.
censorgays are the saddest lifeforms on this whole board
I mean can you really deny that censorship is an ongoing battle? People on this board will regularly fight to the teeth about the trans or gay agenda, seethe at minority inclusions and the slippery slope that has happened in the past decade, but when it comes to censorship now the narrative is "this one example isn't that bad, you're so sad for caring about this."
Fire Emblem has a long history now of censorship. So seeing more nonsensical censorship here is annoying, and seeing people just accept it with no fight is also annoying.
Aw yeah, Ganker gallantly fights the injustice by not buying a single game. i mean, what power does it even have? Do you really think the sad sack of poverty like this board's posters have any say on anything? Most of the console war shitposting is nothing but petty jealousy because people are too poor, plain and simple.
I never advocated for boycotting the game. I learned a long time ago with Pokemon that even if an online community says they'll boycott, 90% of them will buy the game anyway and the game will be the biggest success in the franchise. Engage is looking to be the same.
But we should be loud and active in spreading the message that we hate censorship and don't want to see this in our games. Believe it or not, a lot of these game companies do look at what type of attention and engagement the games are getting, and not just the sales figures. While "any publicity is good publicity" is relatively true, I guarantee Nintendo would rather have conversation surrounding Engage be about the game, and not 90% about the censorship like what happened with TMS#.
What I don't get about these people is why do they care so much? Oh it's not a big deal? Cool. Why don't you go away then? If it's not a big deal then you shouldn't feel the need to fight over it. Or do they feel the need to defend the game against what they see as "wrongful" or "unfounded" attacks?
>What I don't get about these people is why do they care so much?
because if you care that much about S rank supports you're the cancer that will eventually turn FE into a full blown VN and I just hope you would all just frick off and die
Funny, I think you're the cancer that will "it's not a big deal" Japanese video games into cancerous californian garbage.
Guess we must fight to the death?
>"it's not a big deal"
noone ever said that, you're misinterpreting my disgust for you as me trying to protect NoA from criticism
NoA is shit and you are worse
>noone ever said that
So, it is a big deal?
ye I hate censorship
I also can't ignore 90% of the threads for the past week was entirely comprised of doomposting about the presumed lack of S rank supports, which makes me think all this seething and these "oh wow then I won't play the game" isn't really about censorship to begin with
You realize a lot of anons do it just to rile people up, right? I don't think I've ever seen bait in an anti-censorship thread that doesn't get taken at least once.
Pretending to be moronic and being moronic are one and the same.
Because if you ignore a "bait opinion" enough times it just ends up passing itself off as a real opinion. Better to just point it out and get the defensive "ummmm I was only trolling xd" than to let it quietly inch forward until it becomes "normal".
Though I do agree, you shouldn't stay in one post chain too long. All you need to do is shit on it once, anything else is superfluous.
"Do not feed the troll" is a phrase that exists for a reason. Like for god's sake, look at this post
Obvious bait but it still has 7 serious replies.
Yes, I agree. However, this requires people actually KNOW that a troll is a troll. Imagine this scenario. Troll says X, X being an obviously moronic troll statement. No one "bites". 10 newbies show up. Troll says X. No one "bites". 20 newbies show up. Troll says X. No one "bites". 70 newbies show up. Troll says X. No one "bites".
Then one day, 100 newbies say "this board has always believed X, if you don't agree with X you're a newbie" because it was never contested. And now suddenly you're outnumbered and they are the "majority".
It's important to point out, from time to time, that stupid things are stupid, and why they are so. Otherwise everything is just "obvious" until it's not.
I mean, that's what Reddit does all the time. It's all about defending the game's "honor"
can we workout with any non-Alear characters?
wait, I can't sex girls if I use femMC?
I don't want to play as dick
it's sad they didn't also censer some of the female designs. They could have fixed them like they did with mythra
It's Hikari you dubbed moron.
ywnbj
Typical drone response of moronic dubgay. Expected nothing less.
keepu coping you dilty gaijin, you will neveru be part of ouru gleat nipponese nation
have a nice day xenophobe
NO! FRICKU YOU IF YOU NO RIKE IT THEN COMMIT SEPPUKU YOU AHO GAIJIN
Wait this game is turn based? I though it was a musou title
It's it worth a buy? I enjoyed 3 houses a lot
Three Hopes was the musou title. Engage is a standard mainline Fire Emblem title like Three Houses was. Reviews seem to say it will be a little more gameplay/combat focused, and less focus on the social elements compared to TH. But if you enjoyed TH, you will probably enjoy Engage.
damnn that sound pretty fricking good
>Nintendo doesn't want me to marry e-girl Anna
Why did you do this to me, nintendo
keep spreading awareness on every social media and forum. just, spread, awareness and shame every pro-censorship cucks out there.
Can someone give me a screenshot of them emulating engage, obviously all personal info blanked out/cut out? I have an idea for a letter to Nintendo Japan. Maybe have the screenshot include Rosado or Hortensia.
I strongly suggest you do not bring up emulation or piracy when contacting them. I know it's tempting because it gets their knickers in a twist, but it could easily backfire.
How could it backfire? I don't emulate anyway I don't care if they take down random websites, not like pirategays won't still find their roms. Getting them upset would be good in this scenario, no?
do it yourself
I'm not gonna download and set up an emulator find an nsp or whatever and then play far enough to meet those characters just to take 1 screenshot, when the game probably won't run well on my PC anyway.
Relax, they'd just make it harder for normalgays to emulate. Seasoned pirates won't be taken down that easily.
Good, bring down shit against emulation instead of the censorship. You realize they'll probably be more angry at Yuzu/Ryujinx than anything?
Censored goyslop with a plot that makes Dragon Quest stories look innovative
feet
Can someone post all of the pictures of the two piece swimsuit on the girls?
Reminder that this FE is made using Unity making it the most mod friendly game in the franchise. A patch to fix the localization isn't hard to do since the censorship isn't at the level of Fate and only really effects less then half the casts S-ranks, S-Rank Wake Up's and Endings all of which aren't very long.
If someone really wanted too they could make a patch in less then a month, maybe two months tops since most of that time is just retranslating stuff.
Nobody is going to do it though and the game will be forever fricked
Tbh even the "uncensored" romances had their romantic wake up dialogue toned down
Not all of them are fricked. It's still isn't much work because it's mostly just the S-Ranks Supports, Wake Up's and endings that need fixing since the translation over all is fine.
That patch is unfinished and fell through really hard. To be fair Fate needed 3 full three games of script retranslation compared too Engage which need anywhere as much work to fix and is way easier too do. The issue is that I don't see anyone doing it even though it's a pretty easy job this time around
Also pic is the only actives Fates retranslation and the guy is adding a bunch of OC shit and already said he's changing the dialogue to remove all the "problematic" stuff. Fates is just a fricking cursed game
>Nobody is going to do it though and the game will be forever fricked
FE has a very active modding community. I think that there were people working on an accurate translation patch for Fates within the year.
on a side note, does anyone know how to fix the lag issues with the Switch Pro controller on ryujinx? I would use my xbox controller but if it ever sleeps then it automatically turns itself off repeatedly until you restart ryujinx
I just don't understand why a 17 year old dating another 17 year old is ""problematic""
Everyone playing the game is an adult, clearly. No, the MC being underage doesn't matter.
If you ever watch a movie where the protagonist is a minor who has a relationship with another minor, please have a nice day because you are clearly a pedo, then.
That's what NoA seems to think.
Which validates the point that is complete nonsense. Being american should probably be considered a disease, at this point.
It's not the 17 year old part that matters. There is a push from the UN and various countries to go against sexualisation of fictional characters below 18. It's not like anyone in the game ever calls Alear a 17 year old too.
>sexualization
such as engagement and marriage?
If that's what the people at NoA fear it will be interpreted as then yeah.
how old are you anon?
23.
why do you want to use your avatar in game to date minors if you are 23?
>Alear, a completely voiced character with his own background and personality who has abobawdely nothing to do with the player
>Avatar
Are you serious? Everyone who consider alear as an avatar should seek medical help, fast.
Alear is an avatar. That's why he is the only character that can have S supports and paired endings. For you to marry your waifu/husbando and self insert, nothing else. Simple as.
>Alear is an avatar.
meds now.
robin was an avatar
corrin was an avatar
byleth was anavatar
they were all voiced, had a background and established personality. Alear is an avatar. Stop coping.
To back up the point, even in the developer interview they bring up how this is the first time the avatar character is front and center on the cover, while in previous titles they either weren't there at all(Awakening) or de-emphasized like Fates or Three Houses.
https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-8-fire-emblem-engage-part-1/
and where are they calling alear an "avatar"?
>The protagonist – in other words the actual player of the game – embarking on a journey is a classic storyline of a Fire Emblem title, but we knew we wanted to create a story that matches the modern world and made some adjustments.
Can you read, anon?
Can’t even self insert as male Alear because hes voice acted and is a gigantic pussy. He’s basically Rex 2.0 except somehow even more annoying
>Can’t even self insert as male Alear because hes voice acted
Literally who the frick can't self insert because of this?
No, that's just IS capitalizing on the morons who actually believe that shit. They know it's stupid but since more people buy the game because of that, they leave it be to take advantage of them. Hell, they are not even putting an effort to make it look like the MC could be an avatar. With Byleth they at least made them mute and without a true personality, but they didn't even bother to go that far with Alear.
17 years old dating 25 years old is stil not a problem.
NoA are setup in California aka groomer central
The game is bad and the characters are so bland. No one is going to talk about the censorship next week because no ones invested into the story and characters. So romance is a moot point.
3 houses babies are this upset that Engage is better than their horseshit
Engage is trash though even ignoring this censorship crap.
Literally Birthright 2.0.
Except I’m playing it right now and it’s not so you’re wrong and just shitposting because this isn’t dating emblem anymore
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
I'm playing it as well. People touting it as "Conquest 2" are outright lying. The only similarity to Conquest is me skipping every line of dialogue. The maps are all symmetrical shit where the only tactics involve being annoyed at the break system. I'd rather have battalions and skills over this shitty attempt at making the weapon triangle actually matter.
lmao
lol
"it's conquest 2"- liars
the maps SUCK
So it IS Conquest 2?
>SUKS TE TUTORIAL MAPS SUCKS
Literally you
Chapter 7, seethe more, moron. Your game sucks, you're defending it, and you have
not
even
played
it
NoA
17 x 17 BAD
17 x 45 GOOD
Why?
Because they are groomers, that's why.
Because (You), the player, are not under 17. Why is this so hard to understand? You don't have to like it, but you can at least understand the "logic".
Because YOU are not the fricking character. Of course you can't understand logic because you have shit for brains.
The main character is intended to be an audience surrogate whether you like it or not. It doesn't matter how much character Alear or Byleth or Robin or Persona Protag or Dragon Quest protag has, by moronic JP writing standards, those characters are supposed to be (You)r self-insert.
Well, at least it seems we agree that it is a completely moronic thing to do.
Why can't they just stop with the avatar shit? It's also so damn annoying when every other character is all "Oh my god, avatar-sama farted on my face, bless this day! i love you so much, avatar-sama, even if you didn't do anything at all"
You're a literal god in Engage. You'd be on Jesus' nuts if he came back to life just like they are.
>Why can't they just stop with the avatar shit?
Because nips (and most brainlet westerners) love it. Nips in particular are way into wish-fulfillment youthful power fantasies. On that note, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that the reason why Engage doesn't have paired endings for non-Alear support pairs is because nips don't like feeling "cucked" by characters choosing someone other than themselves [even though the player didn't pursue/choose them directly]. The same shit happened in the Story of Seasons series when they removed NPC pairings so none of the marriage-aged townsfolk would ever hook up if not with (You).
> Because (You), the player, are not under 17.
How do they know my age? Why are they assuming that only adults play FE? Actually, why the frick are they assuming that everyone that plays FE is a mentally ill moron that absolutely must self insert into everything and can’t understand the difference between fiction and reality?
Also, why is it not ok for a 17 year old to romance a 17 year old, but seeing said teenagers literally murdering people and fighting in a war some ok? Why are child soldiers not censored?
What is the harm being done by having the character profess their love at the end of the game? I could understand if getting an S support actually gave a whole dating quest line or something, or if they started wearing a negligee in the sleep wake-up scene and wanted to avoid sexualization of minors. But what is the harm in Alear (THE PLAYER SELF INSERT OMG) asking Framme to be more than a fan, but their partner as well.
Are we really thinking that some 25+ NEET virgin is going to turn into a pedophile because they interpreted this scene as too lewd because it didn't explicitly mention friendship?
It's not just the fact that it's censored, it's the fact that what is being censored is completely harmless and worthless. It's honestly insulting for them to insinuate "this is problematic for an older audience to see"
Localizers hate you and your ilk
They are most happy when they are altering content in your games
I assume the logic is that Nintendo doesn't want their game to romanticize the act of giving an 11-year-old girl a promise ring and that girl explicitly acknowledging your expectation to have sex with her with she's old enough.
I definitely think it's moronic that the physically and mentally 17yo protagonist can't explicitly date a fellow 17yo character, but at least for the characters 14 and under, I understand the rationale.
The localization team just decided to let age of consent laws determine what's "old enough" instead of common sense, because that's naturally what a business does.
>girl explicitly acknowledging your expectation to have sex with her with she's old enough.
there is a LOT of heavy lifting going on here.
i get what you're saying and i agree that the logic of getting engaged with a minor is the reason why it's changed. i just think the concept of "it's problematic because the player is likely over 17" is pants on head moronic. i think there is a 0% chance of some 25 year old NEET playing this game and saying, "you know what, maybe I AM a pedo" because the engagement scene implies consummation of the marriage.
>girl explicitly acknowledging your expectation to have sex with her with she's old enough.
>there is a LOT of heavy lifting going on here.
Not with Anna. At 11-years-old, you give her the ring and she says "it's too soon for us to be lovers, but can't we be partners?"
I fully agree that "underage" romance or e-girl/shota has no inherent bearing or effect on real life whatsoever. Partaking in 100% fictional, unrealistic fantasy doesn't make people try to recreate it in real life. It doesn't even reflect the person's real life preferences.
That's simply not how the moronic, apparent majority of people in the world feel though. Boomers still think videogames cause violence and pedophilia, and now zoomers think reading fanfiction causes violences and pedophilia.
do you remember the general excitement the coummnity was feeling when TH was about to release? Sure there were some people that had their doubts, but it's nothing like the indiference and hatred the entire community seems to feel towards engage
3Hgays hate change.
Are you kidding? As an oldgay the reason I like Three Houses as much as I do is because it's does so much of its own thing. It reminded me of how the games used to be wildly different depending on the entry. It wasn't until the GBA era where things started getting stale. As long as the individual entries execute their ideas well I'm all for them being different. Engage's whole premise is like Awakening but somehow worse and the execution feels cheap and phoned in.
>do you remember the general excitement the coummnity was feeling when TH was about to release?
I can’t say I remember something that didn’t happen
NTA but the moment the time skip trailer was released and Eye Patch Dimitri goes "Kill every last one of them!" the mood around 3H did a total 180 on here.
>but it's nothing like the indiference and hatred the entire community seems to feel towards engage
You can't attribute shit posters to an entire community, and you can't be indifferent to something and hate it at the same time, dumbass.
go the frick outside lmao. Reddit and Youtube are sucking the game off.
I personally think people will be pissed come this weekend and they actually play it but right now 4chins is the only place mad about it.
what the frick are you talking people on every site have hated alear's moron colgate design and all the other vtuber designs from when it first leaked
>do you remember the general excitement the coummnity was feeling when TH was about to release
LMAO no, everyone was calling it a shitty HarryPotter/Persona ripof and the classic Fire Emblem died at Awakening.
It wasn't until the War trailer that some interest was born, but everyone wanted to skip the Academy Phase as fast as possible.
I can't say I remember that. I wasn't excited at all and was fully ready to hate Three Houses since the series had been nothing but disappointing since FE10. But then I actually played 3H and it actually felt like the devs wanted to make something good. The setting was actually fleshed out, characters were acting like people with real grounding in the setting, and there was enough intrigue to keep me reading every bit of dialogue presented.
I went into Engage expecting to hate it. After about ten hours I kind of hate it. It takes the worst aspects of Awakening and Fates writing and gels it into Nami Komuro's masterwork of putrid shit that disrespects the franchise while pretending to celebrate it. The gameplay is also tedious which isn't a good thing since that's all there is. I'm certainly not inflicting the dialogue on myself anymore after the first ten lame groaner scenes.
So how long will it take to get a proper fan translation? Not giving my money to these morons
Eh I'll just wait for the spring or summer sale, or maybe an online retailer will have a surprise discount in a month. FE goes on sale faster than the big dawg Nintendo franchises anyway.
I don't care about fire emblem but the fact nintendo hasn't learned their lesson from previous games is unreal. Why can't we just have a universal good version of a game. I don't need someone else telling me what I can and can't consume for media
Not my hecking gaccha goyop!!! I need to consoooooooom!!
The consoomers are literally the ones defending the censorship, and you somehow did enough mental gymanstics to both side with them and pretend to be above them at the same time. Impressive.
NOT MY HECKING NIPPONESE WAIFUIRINOOO! MORTY GET ME MY LE BASED e-girl GAME!! BUUURP
You tell em transister!
As a game Engage is way better than 3H. If you think 3H had good writing and world building I suggest reading an actual book instead of consuming garbage made for coomer 14 year olds and failed men.
>t. unread moron
it's always some pseud who says shit like this
Why are underage relationships fine in Persona but not in Fire Emblem?
>no manaketes
>no beastmen
Soulless
kys furgay
The class system is so needlessly convoluted. I swear, everything about this game feels shoddy and worse than previous entries. They could have just ported the Fates class system over 1:1 and it would have been better than the fricking Awakening system where reclassing resets the unit to level 1. The proficiency requirements make it seem like it's supposed to be on a 3H/FE4 system where promotion doesn't reset levels and you should be able to swap around as you please but it's using the Awakening system so I'm hesitant to early promote even though you can reset levels down to 1/1 since Awakening drastically cut into earned EXP for that unit as soon as they promoted. So many of the problems I have with this game come down to it being simple to the point of being boring and needlessly convoluted at the same time.
considering everyone in the thread just talks about the romance I take the gameplay and story are just a boring slop?
Reviews all seem to agree that Gameplay is good and a step up from TH, story and characters are lackluster and a step down from TH. I'll judge the characters for myself, but I'm setting expectations low for the story to just be "good versus evil dragon bad." like the usual.
I was stupid and decided I wanted a physical copy. Amazon says I have over night shipping but it still won't arrive until the 24th. What are the chances it ships early on release date?
mine says the same thing the 24th. I wonder if Amazon is fricking up somehow because when you go to preorder it says release day shipping and shows the 20th
just go to your local store and buy it you autist
My car broke down two weeks ago and I haven't bothered to spend the cash to get it into the shop yet. Life is hard man, why can't I just be a NEET?
Trust me, you don't want to be a neet.
t. neet
amazon has also fricked up for me. This has almost never happened with release day shipping but at the same time, amazon can barely even do prime 2 day shipping nowadays.
So...
>Futanariincest good
>gay bad
>Underage marriage bad
>gay bad
Where are you getting this misconception? Every man in the game is now willing to hop on MAlear's wiener.