>ruthlessly executes all his enemies in public >hangs the heads of everyone else involved on pikes >forces claude's hand to do his dirty work for him >but he doesn't go boar on screen so he's joe biden
>0 major deaths unless you kill Jeralt >ends on a better note than 3Houses Verdant wind >only bad thing is that Dimitri doesn't go full BOAR
He keeps getting away with it
>only bad thing is that Dimitri doesn't go full BOAR
But the whole point is Jeritza going dude lmao kill everyone and fricking up the deception causes them to move up the timeline before they were ready which fricks the plans to unseat demtri and so he never goes full punished mode.
The boar made him sympathetic and tragic. Without that he’s just a generic male load like Eliwood or Marth. Ephraim at least had his incestuous relationship with his sister
I would shit on him if he wasn’t such a sucky lord and existed in the same universe as Hector.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hector dies due to fight autism and Eliwood's son plows Lilina's fields every night, frick you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Lyn scored a critical hit! >plink plink plink plink plink >0 damage! >doesn't show up in the sequel, no one mentions or cares about her
Your waifu is shit.
I bet you can’t, b***h
2 years ago
Anonymous
glup shitto
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that the homophobic slug?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>taking RLM seriously
That fat alcoholic Milwaukee hack Mike should die and finally free Rich and Jay from having to star in his shitty internet videos. Anyway >kind >thoughtful about his actions, but doesn't let cautiousness paralyze his decision making >clearly well-bred, but can relate to the more down to Earth characters >understands politics but doesn't let politics corrupt him >cares for others >noble bearing >can get very emotional, but tries to put on a good face in front of others to keep their spirits up >is a great fighter, canonically has more wins on Hector in their duels >can be a bit cheeky and sarcastic, but doesn't do it in a cruel way
Eliwood is great.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, now describe Sigurd, Seliph, Marth, Lief, Alm, and Chrome
2 years ago
Anonymous
>kind >thoughtful about his actions, but doesn't let cautiousness paralyze his decision making >clearly well-bred, but can relate to the more down to Earth characters >understands politics but doesn't let politics corrupt him >cares for others >noble bearing >can get very emotional, but tries to put on a good face in front of others to keep their spirits up >is a great fighter, canonically has more wins on Hector in their duels >can be a bit cheeky and sarcastic, but doesn't do it in a cruel way
Done.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sigurd >mentally moronic, his moron strength allows him to conquer the continent by accident
Seliph >boring compared to his dad
Marth >was cooler in Smash bros
Lief >his life is suffering
Alm >Echoes gameplay was so bad I stopped playing
Chrom >total bro, let me frick his daughter
2 years ago
Anonymous
A big dumb idiot who always gets lost, jumps off cliffs for training, and gets into arguments with the voices in their head about how to best handle their rival. Despite this everyone keeps asking their opinion so they've resorted to using quotes from popular media to appear more wise than they are.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That Lysithea support was gold. I love Shezzie so much.
He’s completely boring, anon. Hector and Lyn completely mog him in his own game. He even fails the Plinkett test
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Lyn scored a critical hit! >plink plink plink plink plink >0 damage! >doesn't show up in the sequel, no one mentions or cares about her
Your waifu is shit.
are all agarthans body hoppers to some extent like epimenides? they talk about their flesh being weak or whatever; maybe something like the black core they have inside of them is moved into new bodies?
Possibly, also it's strange, Shez's mom isn't their actual mom, just adopted, so Shez's real parents died, and their adopted mom also died, to poor kid had a very rough life.
On an average Edelgard build, no.
On a moron build where Edelgard's natural inclinations for sword use can nullify Ike's weapon triangle advantage, her raw durability and strength can even the odds. Or even more horrifyingly for a Tellius character, being an actual competent magic user with stats to back it up? She'll deep fry him.
They’re besties according to FEH. if they had to fight, Ike has weapon triangle advantage but he’s also a sword locked infantry unit. Edelgard has far more options including magic and wyvern riding. If she’s just her normal emperor class? Ike easily. If Edelgard uses the tools she has access to, she wins.
I mean, pretty much all of Edelgard's possible love interests can do better.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at this thread, only cucks ship byleth with anyone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Does it count as cucking if the person doing the cucking steals both parties?
2 years ago
Anonymous
At that point it's a threesome.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Byleth is for Shez
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, at least I don't think I've heard this one before
actually this thread was really good for me and made lots of things clear, that back and forth of the anons earlier helped immensely, I initially thought it was a direct sequel but now I know its a alternate universe with the same characters and I'm actually interested in playing it now.
shouldn't that also be good for the romancegays?
>shouldn't that also be good for the romancegays?
There's no S ranks in this game or paired endings
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Well, at least I don't think I've heard this one before
That’s because Edelgard has a better ending with Ferdinand than Byleth, her supposed soulmate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ferdie and El are besties, but he loves his wife Dorothea.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A ship as terrible as Edelgard/Byleth
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's no S ranks in this game or paired endings
WELL WHY ARE PEOPLE SO ASSHURT ABOUT THIS GAME THEN
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because people are self conscious at a bit of shipteasing
2 years ago
Anonymous
i don't date prostitutes
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because they self inserted as Byleth when they remanced their waifu in 3 houses instead of being normal and realising Byleth is his/her own character and are mad that Byleth isn't in the forfront of 3 hopes. That or they just really hate muso games.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Speaking for myself >the ending is dogshit >Byleth's implementation in the game is really poor, I would almost prefer she not be in it at all. The fact that you can recruit her but she has no supports with any of the students make her feel like a husk of a character, like she was modded in. I do like that in her few scenes she has actual voice acting though
But I actually overall liked this game far more than i expected to
2 years ago
Anonymous
>husk of a character
Very fitting to what Byleth is then
Do either of AG or GW reveal anything about shez? I still have no idea what the frick her or epidermis are @.@. Also, I don't care about Almyra. I just want some lore answers.
Oh, and is there any church route like in 3 Houses?
>Three hopes is by far the most complex and engaging muso on the market
How are the other games going to compete? Do you think pirate warriors 5, whatever the next dynasty warriors game is, or the next hyrule warriors game will incorperate any of the mechanics or difficulty three hopes has implemented? 3H seriously blows those other games out of the water and makes shit like age of calamity look like a childs toy in comparison.
Fire Emblem Warriors 3 makes very barebones improvements over FEW1's systems and even though FEW1 came out in 2017, indeed being one of the first Switch games announced, any succeeding musou did not capitalize on any of its innovations.
Go play Samurai Warriors 5 and see how half-baked its tactical systems are compared to 3Hopes
Maybe it's because Fire Emblem itself is an SRPG? Still, it's not like it's asking too much to be implemented into the Dynasty/Samurai home series, if not other spinoffs like Hyrule, anime adaptations, etc.
I like Age of Calamity for the map designs, movesets and the 1-vs-1's, they blow Three Hopes out of the water although Three Hopes is certainly a lot better as an overall musou while AoC feels more like a 3D beat-em up.
I think Hopes did as well as they could considering the loads and loads of characters nature of the FE series. Giving everyone some gimmicks to mix and match with existing class movesets was the best option.
Heros Relic that even crestlets can use, doubles all your hits. No consider that Shez is the quick attack spamming god of this game.
Too bad we only the Sublime creator sword gets the whip sword combat art, but Shez gets her teleport spam EFFECTIVE-ALL attack and Luna, or you can spam sweeps likes me.
I agree with him. If you liked Byleth, the entire game just feels like a NTR plotline.
this scene in particular, while supposed to be light-hearted and wholesome just unironically makes me seethe. The way all of the golden bros and sisters just look at Byleth and give these cheesy lines like "heeey, what if we knew you in another timeline teehee" bullshit. It just feels so gross.
>Man, self-inserters are legitimately seething about this game.
Shez is legitimately great so fun to run her and Byleth with the Sublime/Dark Creator swords and their Tulpa's as adjutants. You can basically treat their partner specials as (form anyone else's view) just byleth and Shez going that hard on whatever poor bastard they're targeting.
>people who have this as their first fire emblem game
That would be me. I never got into fire emblem because I'm bad at strategy games and don't particularly like them, and I never played fire emblem warriors despite enjoying muso games because at least for me, I need to be into the series in order to fully enjoy the characters I'm playing in said muso game. When three hopes came out and I understood it was essentially the "age of calamity" of fire emblem muso games I decided to take a step into the series.
My plan was to buy three hopes and three houses and play through at least one route in three houses, then match that route in three hopes. But I've been enjoying the gameplay of hopes so much that I've pretty much dropped my playthrough of houses and I'm going to reverse it. Complete a route in 3 hopes, and then do that same route in 3 houses to fill in my gaps of knowledge and context. I didn't end up buying houses though, borrowed it from a friend so eventually when he pries it out of my hands i'll just buy my own copy. I should add that while I still am not a major fan of turn based strategy games, 3 houses on normal isn't frustrating to me and I very much enjoy the classroom setting. I'm doing Claude's route first, then I'll probably do Edelgard last.
You really did pick the worst FEs to start your introduction into the series because the gameplay is very poor even for a series with simple gameplay style.
Yeah I hear the gameplay of houses is considered poor, but the gameplay of 3 hopes is keeping me invested and drawing attention to the setting enough that I want to play houses so i can learn more of the story, which I hear is really good, at least in 3 houses. hopes' story I hear is poor in comparison.
>people are playing 3 hopes as their first fire emblem game >these people are going to ship Shez with one of the original 3house waifus because they don't know who byleth is
I highly doubt the amount of people playing 3 hopes that don't know that not only is 3 hopes a game set in the 3 houses universe, but Byleth is the main protag of that game is as high as you think. Even if someone had never heard of 3 houses like you mentioned, Byleth is introduced at the start of 3 hopes as your rival, which would lead any inquisitive mind in the direction of researching who they are, considering you had to give them a name and form.
From Deer's new route: >Byleth is a much better character than in Houses on behalf of him not being completely mute >his supports with Jeralt are nice >Leonie also got improved, as she is now no longer hungry for (your) dad's wiener (and her arc with Jeralt does get some closure) >rest of the deers are about the same as what I remember from House's >Claude got both upgraded in a way and severely downgraded in another way
From the very beginning (I'm talking prologue only here) of Eagle: >Edelgard is no longer a moron
You can just not take your waifu on expeditions you know. You can not do their fricking supports. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to NTR yourself with another character that you have full control over.
They are still CONCEPTUALLY KEKED the idea is there, the asset is there, and the choice is there, the only thing they can do is ignore but, the idea will haunt them for the rest of their attachment time.
Rate my theory.
Even in the base game you can have your waifu get married with someone else in the ending, THE ASSET IS THERE THE IDEA IS THERE you fricking conceptual kekold.
Not going to lie, it’s this for me. Knowing that the Camilla/Takumi support exists where she’s desperate to hop on his twink dick makes me internally rage and really did ruin her character for me. With all the other supports she is very stand-offish or annoyed until she warms up to then in the end. With Takumi she literally seducing him by the C support and trucks him into going on a date in their B support. Drives me fricking nuts to be honest considering she’s supposed to be obsessed with (You)
Every human have something trivial that we care about irrationally simply due to autism or loneliness's sake. When your own trivial thing is exposed and you start seething over it, you'll understand. And people will also look at you confused about why you care about something so dumb.
There is a difference between "trivial" and "Literal moronation", these people are in love with a pretty picture and scripted lines, fictional characters who don't exist, and these people are so in love with them even the IDEA that they possibly could get with some other character who also doesn't exist is as bad as IRL cheating to them, like HOLY SHIT.
That’s just how the human brain works, moron. Why do you think people cry at sad movies (cartoon ones even) or fall in love with celebrities they’ll never meet? Just because media progressed faster than humans evolved does’t mean that the human brain isn’t easily swayed by what are essentially illusions
I mean I do get what you mean. I really didn't like Bernadetta and Ferdie's A - Support in houses since it made my bernie blush like a schoolgirl in heat...
But srsly bro? Camilla...? Shes an actual canon flirty bawd. She was most likely just teasing that gay takumi since his head was so far up his ass. Also Fates waifus are unironically shit and one-dimensional, idk how you can get jealous over those archetypes. Especially one as basic as Camilla.
Camilla literally wants to frick anything that moves
Factually untrue.
She’s Cornsexual and is often dismissive or just agitated with every other male unit in their C supports. That said she is probably just fricking with Takumi for shits and giggles before he flips it back on her in their S support
the problem is that the expeditions are actually extremely cute and well designed. It's just with the new protagonist so those who self-inserted as Byleth just get shitty vibes from it.
Me, I'm just coping with it by playing as femshez. But I still find myself wondering how much better it would feel, if they just kept byleth as the main MC and I could go on dates with my waifu in this new spin-off.
Oh well, the monkey paw simply curled. No use fighting it. It is just a game...
My favorite part is that in theory is any character truly Byleth only? What's the difference from making say Raphael the main character and having him "ntr" Byleth?
Right? If I wanted certain endings for characters I just wouldn't activate their A/+ supports with characters I didn't want them to end up with to make things easier. I don't self insert, even in shit like Animal Crossing or Pokemon, so seeing people getting upset over this to the point of depression is weird to me.
Every human have something trivial that we care about irrationally simply due to autism or loneliness's sake. When your own trivial thing is exposed and you start seething over it, you'll understand. And people will also look at you confused about why you care about something so dumb.
>so seeing people getting upset over this to the point of depression is weird to me.
it’s literally a ntr shitposters who have now derailed the thread.
Marianne doesn’t so that, anon. She’s just gets pressured into increasingly lewd situations with random good looking men by Hilda so she can watch Marianne’s embarrassment for her own amusement as she corrupts her
Ah, Green hat Otto. Soemone I haven't seen in a while.
Even in the base game you can have your waifu get married with someone else in the ending, THE ASSET IS THERE THE IDEA IS THERE you fricking conceptual kekold.
Aiiieee! My thesis is rejected by the professor!
But, yes, that is correct! Byleth self inserters were CONCEPTUALLY KEKED people all along.
Not going to lie, it’s this for me. Knowing that the Camilla/Takumi support exists where she’s desperate to hop on his twink dick makes me internally rage and really did ruin her character for me. With all the other supports she is very stand-offish or annoyed until she warms up to then in the end. With Takumi she literally seducing him by the C support and trucks him into going on a date in their B support. Drives me fricking nuts to be honest considering she’s supposed to be obsessed with (You)
I didn't know someone actually feel this way. Sorry about that.
>Anon's Fire Emblem Series Emulation & Modding Guide
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- UNDUBs, translations, updates/DLCs, mods, ROM hacks, randomizers, cheats... >>(FE1) Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light >>(FE2) Gaiden >>(FE3) Mystery of the Emblem >>(FE4) Genealogy of the Holy War >>(BSFEAS) Archanean War Chronicles >>(FE5) Thracia 776 >>(FE6) The Binding Blade >>(FE7) The Blazing Blade >>(FE8) The Sacred Stones >>(FE9) Path of Radiance >>(FE10) Radiant Dawn >>(FE11) Shadow Dragon >>(FE12) New Mystery of the Emblem >>(FE13) Awakening >>(FE14) Fates - the retranslation, NSFW live2d and more >>(TMSFE) Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE >>(TMSFEE) Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE Encore >>(FEH) Fire Emblem Heroes >>(FE15) Echoes: Shadows of Valentia >>(FEW) Warriors (3DS & Switch) >>(FE16) Three Houses
- character modding/swapping & Sothis, Rhea and any other NPCs playable in combat >>(FEW3H) Warriors: Three Hopes
- Yuzu users - follow the step #1 of the Ryujinx setup
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Can I emulate <insert an FE title>?
- pre-3DS/3DS titles - Most likely yes.
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- Yes. Check the "Extras" of the "Emulator resources" section.
Apparently at least one more time since you are going against what the devs themselves said, Three Hopes's 4 endings are just as canon as Houses's 4 endings, 8 different what-if outcomes.
Devs never called Houses a spin-off, meanwhile they called Hopes that multiple times became it’s not a main game nor on equal footing with it. A spin-off.
Come back to me when Hopes fits into the 3H routes and isn’t a spin-off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Houses's routes don't even fit with each other. and spin-off =/= non-canon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
3 Houses routes already don't fit with eachothers
Sorry Copescucks, your shitty musou’s story doesn’t into into 3H nor continue it but instead show it in a separate direction, hence why the devs called it a what-if.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All of Houses' routes are what-ifs, these are just more what-ifs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, three houses is a what-if. What if byleth chooses the blue lions, what if he choses the golden deer, what if he chooses the black eagles, what if he sides with Edelgarde? Them saying its a what-if IS them saying its canon you dingus. At this point I feel like you're just pretending to be dense
The what-ifs of Hopes are separate from Houses because they are a completely different from the mainline plot of the school/five year war, hence a spin-off.
It’s not that hard to understand.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No its not, shez literally goes to school with them at the beginning and then a time skip happens, and they fight a war. Its the same thing but with shez instead of byleth. Not all routes in three houses end up the same, for example rhea isn't captured in all the routes nor is Dimitri blinded in one eye in every route.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Its the same thing but with shez instead of byleth.
It’s not because you never have Edelgard casting out the slithers early on or Claude crowning himself king of the Alliance in 3H, that can only ever happen in Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, because instead of Byleth they got Shez, Byleth is the reason they don't do that. With Byleth the bandits escape to the red canyon so casting the slithers out early can't happen, and Claude becomes a better person with Byleth teaching him so he doesn't become king of Fodlan. Its literally butterfly effect. That's the entire theme of the game, three hopes is just a larger butterfly effect that follows the set up but replaces Byleth with Shez
2 years ago
Anonymous
>so he doesn't become king of Fodlan
Nah, he's got a scheme for that, too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
God I fricking hate Claude
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
Shez is also the one who TELLS Claude to become king of the alliance. It's literally the C rank social interaction. You'd think that these people haven't played the game or something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How does that negate my point? Byleth teaches Claude better so he doesn't want to become king of Fodlan, while Shez doesn't and, as you said, leads him to it. Claude would not want to become king of Fodlan with Byleth. I think you're starting to realize how stupid you're argument is and are now reaching for straws. Just admit you were wrong and walk away
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same universe, different timelines, just like AM, VW, CF and SS are with each other.
>Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole
And guess what? Houses is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Byleth. Hopes is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Shez, a character not alive in the former, hence an AU.
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same thing. Don't overdose on that copium, self inserter.
Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole, so they can't be separate AUs when both are tied to that.
Can you homos shut up? your pointless bickering is incredibly boring to read
2 years ago
Anonymous
We saved this thread from the NTR homosexualry. If anything you owe us.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh shit, sorry, did you want to talk more about how you're getting cucked by Shez? My bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, three houses is a what-if. What if byleth chooses the blue lions, what if he choses the golden deer, what if he chooses the black eagles, what if he sides with Edelgarde? Them saying its a what-if IS them saying its canon you dingus. At this point I feel like you're just pretending to be dense
2 years ago
Anonymous
3 Houses routes already don't fit with eachothers
2 years ago
Anonymous
How does hopes not fit into 3 houses when the very idea of 3 houses is split timelines? Hopes just splits alot early because Shez is an unstable factor that doesn't unify and/or apply a salve to the people around them. After Shez intercepts the 3 protags they go on to kill the bandit leader in cold blood as opposed to him fleeing, and then Shez becomes a student, not a professor, causing events to unfold very quickly and in a completely different direction.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>How does hopes not fit into 3 houses when the very idea of 3 houses is split timelines
Because Shez is dead in the 3H timeline and that’s an important part of Hopes. No Shez equals no Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How does Shez die in the 3Houses timeline if they have Arval reviving them?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They only ever get revived in the Hopes timeline, in other words, A SPLIT TIMELINE THAT CANNOT OCCUR IN THE MAIN TIMELINE.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But there are things in the "main" timeline that can't occur in the "main" timeline itself.
Nta but they're all the same universe just different timelines, houses is the timelines where shez dies and byleth becomes a professor of one of three houses, while hopes is the timelines where shez doesn't die, saves the leaders instead of byleth, and joins one of three houses. The point of these games is that there is no one true route, you're missing the point by saying that some of them aren't canon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Was it ever stated that Shez dies in 3 houses or do they just never show up? I mean i know the character didn't exist until 3 hopes but did any devs mention after the fact since Shez is now a "character in canon". It's pretty hard to ignore them considering Arval is stated to have revived them many times and Shez's goal of fighting Byleth was set in motion 6 months before they could of intercepted the 3 main protags, but didn't in houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He obviously wasn't invented at the time but we can assume that in houses timeline he gets killed along with his merc bros by Byleth before the events of the game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They only ever get revived in the Hopes timeline, in other words, A SPLIT TIMELINE THAT CANNOT OCCUR IN THE MAIN TIMELINE.
So where's Arval in the houses timeline? How far back is the split if not the interception of the 3 house protags? Am i to believe that the reason for Shez not being around in the 3 houses timeline is that Shez got ass-whooped so hard by Byleth 6 months in the past that Arval just didn't bother to revive them?
Actually you're right I don't think its ever stated actually, its very possible that he/she survives, doesn't meet the leaders, trains for a year, and then gives up on byleth after hearing he "dies" at garreg mach. I just said he died because its easier to write my post that way and I think that's the main fan theory.
That could be a more valid theory, hearing that Byleth died and then just giving up.
[...]
The what-ifs of Hopes are separate from Houses because they are a completely different from the mainline plot of the school/five year war, hence a spin-off.
It’s not that hard to understand.
Separate, yes, spin off, yes. Non-canon? Nah. Different events happen because a different protag with a different personality gets involved with the 3 main houses. 3 Hopes is the what-if story of what happens if Byleth doesn't get involved and some apologetic merc does instead.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Non-canon? Nah.
What happens in Three Hopes and what happens in Houses do not effect each other anon. Hence why they are two different AUs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In Houses what happens in Edelgard route doesn't affect Dimitri route. Hence why they are two different AUs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really considering AM and CF are influenced by Byleth going to school and what house he takes but are not influenced by Shez because that would require Shez to be alive in that timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, AM and CF cannot affect each other, that is why they are two different AUs
2 years ago
Anonymous
Both of those timelines are tied down by by the events of Byleth and the school, so they can’t be a separate AUs when both are tied to 3H.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole, so they can't be separate AUs when both are tied to that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole
And guess what? Houses is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Byleth. Hopes is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Shez, a character not alive in the former, hence an AU.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why does one guy not being alive suddenly make it an AU instead of alternate timeline like us joining one of the houses?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because Byleth is the goddess reincarnated. And also the one who influences the 3 most influential people in the continent. If Byleth isn't there then the house leaders will be left to their own devices with the winner only being dictated by who has the just power under their belt. Which turns Shez is a massive force multiplier.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because that one guy is what lead to events radically different from what was laid down in Houses.
None of these discreted it from being an alternate timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s literally what makes Hope an alternative timeline tho.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No-one disagrees that hopes is a different timeline. the argument is if it is or isn't a different universe, or also known as non-canon. Seems like cope by self-inserting waifugays who can't accept that it's possible that Byleth the character never meets the players waifu and thus the player can't romance them through Byleth the avatar.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Seems like cope by self-inserting waifugays who can't accept that it's possible that Byleth the character never meets the players waifu and thus the player can't romance them through Byleth the avatar.
Nobody is saying that but you. Are you so dumb as to forget that the other game already had more shipping than this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I forgot to ad "to me" at the end of my post, so yes, I do believe it is me who has this opinion that while unlikely that no-one else thinks this, it's only me saying it at this moment.
Just call it a multiverse and be done with it.
Aren't alternate timelines just another term for multiverse? I'd say that's fine but the problem still remains that there are people who think the events in 3 houses are less valid then the events in 3 hopes.
>Why would Byleth care about Shez increasing his/her social rank with Edelgard when Byleth never met Edelgard in the split timeline? Unless that image was drawn by a self-inserting nerd who thinks "they" are Byleth....no-one would do that...right?
Edelgard is literally right next to Byleth in the pic. She's sad that a game came out with her wife and she can't interact with her in it.
Ah shit I didn't catch that. That's pretty funny.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just call it a multiverse and be done with it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, yeah, that is what we were trying to say, just like all the routes in Houses are alternate timelines of each other, with Hopes' extra 4 alternate timelines we have 8 different timelines.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because that one guy is what lead to events radically different from what was laid down in Houses.
What does it matter? The changes depending on which house you pick are radically different as well. By that logic these are all AUs. And even within those AUs different characters can get killed if you play on classic so can have a ton of various outcomes. Musou made it so another analogous split happens even earlier.
You guys are inconsistent because you clearly see the musou game as lesser and are desperate to enforce that on everyone for some reason.
It’s literally what makes Hope an alternative timeline tho.
Exactly, an alternate timeline. Just like Byleth creating alternate timelines by picking a house to teach.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it leads to a incredibly different outcome where there is no Byleth and Sothis to create a golden age at the end.
Are you so dense as to not realize that there’s a big differences in the outcome/tone of Hopes and Houses? Are you that fricking dense?
2 years ago
Anonymous
There is big differences between all of Houses' routes as well, as well as Hopes' routes with each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All four routes of 3H end with a golden age with Byleth at the helm. You don’t get that in Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Byleth still exists in the 3 hopes timeline though. they're just not getting directly involved with the 3 house leaders because Shez intercepted them before they could meet up with Byleth. No meeting, Byleth doesn't go to the monistary and doesn't become a professor, they stay a merc under the command of Jeralt and do whatever it is they usually do. think of it like this, imagine you had a machine that could let you go back in time. Say you used it to go back in time to your first day of high school, and instead of tripping over your shoelace you tripped a nerd instead. that's basically what happens if you picked Edelgard over Claude at the start of 3 houses. Now, you could also use that machine to go back to elementary school and get run over by a car, leading to your potential highschool GF geting barebacked by that nerd you decided to trip. All timelines are relevent to that universe, the one you died doesn't become less valid then the others because you personally don't like the outcome.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Byleth still exists in the 3 hopes timeline though.
But not as the teacher which leads to the events of 3H you dense frick
2 years ago
Anonymous
In AM he doesn't exist as a teacher for Black Eagles.
In VW he doesn't exist as a teacher for Blue Lions.
Etc. Literally the same thing you moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It’s not because he’s still an instructor as Garreg Mach in everyone one of those timelines you dummy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your argument would only make sence if Byleth was an instructor to the same people, in which case there wouldn't even be alternate routes in 3 houses itself. Byleth picking a different classroom to teach is the exact same thing as byleth not meeting the 3 leaders at all.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Byleth picking a different classroom to teach is the exact same thing as byleth not meeting the 3 leaders at all.
Last I heard, Byleth going to the BL didn’t cause Claude to become Hopes Claude. It’s matters heavily that went there to teach.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry, what's BL stand for again? I'm drawing a blank.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Blue Lions, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Boys love, the house of homos
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry, what's BL stand for again? I'm drawing a blank.
Blue Lions, moron.
I immediatly remembered it was Blue Lions after I posted, and you tossing out insults doesn't do your side of the conversation any favours since it just leads me to think you're arguing in bad faith. At any rate, yes, it does matter heavily that Byleth goes to the church to teach. No-one is arguing against that. The issue here is that it's a misconception that it matters at all. We know the timeline changes drastically depending on if Byleth teaches at the school or Shez becomes a student, that's simply fact. The point of all this is that it doesn't matter. A timeline where neither Byleth nor Shez meeting with the 3 leaders, resulting in them dying by bandits would still be canon by the very notion that 3 houses introduced the concept of different timelines via the game itself letting you pick which class to teach. You have to remember the butterfly effect. Byleth still interacts with and molds the lives of the 2 houses they don't directly teach, leading to different, but similar timelines each time, after all you can't cram 3 COMPLETELY different games onto one cartrage. However, you can make a drastically different timeline and turn it into it's own game, which they did with 3 hopes. We could very well see yet another game called 3 Heroes in 4-5 years where neither Byleth nor Shez meet up with Dimitry, Claude, and Edelgard and they fight off the bandits on their own and each route is you playing as one of the 3 leaders themselves. That game, while a spin-off, would still be canon to the 3 houses universe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You wrote a short story and Hopes is still an AU lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm bored and what I do at 5:30 in the morning is my own buisness. Hopes is still canon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hopes is canon to Hopes, just nit canon to 3H. The only thing they share is lore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hopes and Houses are both equally canon in the Fodlan vidya universe.
Cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>are both equally canon >one is just seen as the semi-canon what-if story separate from the mainline according to the devs
Lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
>one is just seen as the semi-canon
Source?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Check their interview with Famitsu. They state it’s a story that may or may not happen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is they were equal then the creators wouldn't have called it a what if story.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like both games and this argument is dum. lets just agree to disagree and post our favorite character. So far I really like Leonie.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Edelgard will always be my favorite, but I also really like Jeritza in this game and agree they did an amazing job with Ferdinand. I just started BL and I like Felix there, I hope to see more Ingrid because she's one of my favorites but she's been quiet so far.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's nice anon, but Hopes is still an au.
>canonical sequel is an AU
moronbros...
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit 3H got a sequel?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, Three Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That’s not a sequel since it doesn’t continue the events of 3H, instead taking an alternative route. Learn what a what-if is
2 years ago
Anonymous
In that case there are no canonical sequels by definition, since there always are slight differences in each person's playthrough and choices.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's nice anon, but Hopes is still an au.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's just your purely subjective qualifier. I can have mine too:
No, Byleth has to pick a specific faction or else it must be an alternate reality character with a different set of values.
Checkmate, atheist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, this is true. Instead, Shez incercepted the 3 leaders before Byleth, went to the monestary, became a student instead of a professor, and split the timeline drastically. If 3 hopes came out first and then houses was released later with the new Byleth protag intercepting the 3 leaders before Shez, the timeline in that case would of also been considered a drastic change. A change in a timeline has no upper limit to how much it can change and still be considered the "correct" timeline, that's the very nature of the butterfly effect.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But 3 Hopes did not come out first, it was only created because Houses came out and was a success. Shez only exists because a KT dev really wanted to implement their new donut steel despite knowing how it would limit what they could do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, you repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it more correct.
Byleth and Sothis are still very much around, they just take different action, there's literally nothing contradictory between those games and in a certain route in Houses Sothis is gone and Byleth reverts to normal human so you're not even correct in your strawman.
I'm sorry that you feel that way but you're gonna have to COPE with the fact that the musou storyline is just as valid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
> they just take different action, there's literally nothing contradictory between those games and in a certain route in Houses
In other words, it’s an alternative timeline and doesn’t fit with Three Houses where’s got a very specific role. Yeah, an alternative timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Indeed, still canon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Canon to the Hopes timeline, not the Houses timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Which all originated from the same timeline, all are canon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, because Shez can only live on in one of these timelines and it’s not the 3H one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, because Edelgard can only live in one of these timelines and it's one AM, VW or SS.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The same way Hegemon Edelgard is canon to the AM timeline, not the VW timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, because Edelgard can only live in one of these timelines and it's one AM, VW or SS.
All of these timelines fit into the 3H universe so it’s cool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And Hopes and Houses both still fit in the Fodlan universe so it's cool.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually the devs said Hopes and only Hopes on multiple occasions is a what-if meaning it’s a separate universe to 3H.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just like CF and AM are what-ifs of each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon, you just admitted that its an alternate universe. What causes Byleth to get involved is that they give a shit about their students and Fodlan itself. Hopes Byleth doesn't care about anything besides her daddy. She isn't affiliated with the church nor is she fully merged with Sothis. She has nothing keeping her there besides Jeralt, and her final letter even gives the implication that she doesn't stick around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you even play the game?
Byleth and Jeralt are basically forced to return to Garreg Mach. It's throught that experience that he starts giving a frick. Byleth's default state is merc autismo just like in this game. It's perfectly consistent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Did you ever play 3 Houses? If you actually played 3 Houses then you would know that the war starts at the end of the academy phase. Byleth is involved because they give a shit about the people around them. Merc austismo isn't really a default rather it's just them without any growth or human interaction because Jeralt is such a shit parent.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you autistic?
Byleth starts caring after spending a year around those people.
He doesn't have that time with them in Hopes therefore he acts different.
Do you not understand the difference? I cannot say it in simpler terms.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you ESL anon? Or did you just never play Three Houses you don't actually know when the events happen? Because if you did play 3 Houses you wouldn't make such a stupid reply. But since you've obviously haven't let me break down the events for you. >Byleth meets the three lords and is brought to Garreg Maach with Jeralt >Jeralt and Byleth are given separate duties from Rhea with Byleth being an instructor >Byleth chooses a class to teach and starts growing as a person learns how to express emotions >They keep growing as a person as they speak to more people and they grow an attachment to the world Fodlan. >Edelgard shoots up the school and declares war. >Byleth chooses to fight.
Now go back and read my post while keeping in mind the fricking timeline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm aware. Still fail to see a contradiction.
Hopes Byleth is what Byleth would act like if they and Jeralt never ended up in Garreg Mach and never grew as a person to care about their students. In Hopes Byleth gets involved because main Lord and Jeralt forge a business relationship.
Where is the inconsistency?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Read my post and then ask yourself if you have even bothered arguing with me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Either point the contradiction or don't waste my time, smug c**t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay since you're ESL I stated that the war in 3 Houses has an ending because the goddess actually gives a shit about Fodlan and its inhabitants because she met the three lords but in 3 Copes she doesn't give a shit and could easily just leave when it suits her because she has no reason to care about Fodlan or its people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because that one guy is what lead to events radically different from what was laid down in Houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So the thousand of years of events that happened before that year of 1180 literally don't matter to you? Okay then lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>brainlet cannot grasp alternate timelines
House routes are influenced by Shez NOT being alive. Just like Hopes routes are influenced by Blyat NOT meeting house leaders when they fight bandits.
2 years ago
Anonymous
cannot grasp alternate timelines
No you moron, what we have is an AU scenario. The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same thing. Don't overdose on that copium, self inserter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>she thinks I self insert
The only good thing to come out of Hopes was giving Byleth a voice to kill the self inserting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same universe, different timelines, just like AM, VW, CF and SS are with each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What happens in Verdant Wind and what happens in Azure Moon do not effect each other anon. Hence why they are two different AUs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Acutally that's false. With the power of NG+ I can make my actions in VW carry over to AM.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes really actually. Frick you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, you're right. 3 hopes is still canon though. Whichever route you pick in 3 houses changes the timeline, but because you're playing Byleth it leans into a similar direction. However in hopes you play as Shez, a completely different person, which pushes the timeline into a different direction. all routes are alternate timelines, however half of them move to the left, and the other to the right, depending on who's driving the car. All are canon. In fact, if 3 hopes came out first then 3 houses would of been the spin-off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>In fact, if 3 hopes came out first then 3 houses would of been the spin-off.
But it didn’t because it’s the derivative, the spin-off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually you're right I don't think its ever stated actually, its very possible that he/she survives, doesn't meet the leaders, trains for a year, and then gives up on byleth after hearing he "dies" at garreg mach. I just said he died because its easier to write my post that way and I think that's the main fan theory.
>boring
She's basically the male version of Ingrid without the racism. Kind, cute, nice voice and overall just looking to help others. This makes alot of girls wet when it comes to anime format. His entire character is about being the ideal knight.
It's hard to feel bad for him when his tragic backstory is twice removed survivor's guilt and 'dad doesn't want me to go to art school' and you've got literal torture survivors in the next class over.
He’s just your typical everyman. Not everyone needs a tragic backstory. Sylvain, Lorenz, Raphael, Leonie, Caspar, etc don’t have really tragic upbringings either. That said, he did need an extra negative quirk to him to make him a little more interesting. Like wanting to paint Foldan’s version of bigfoot or being a paranoid conspiracy theorist
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Sylvain
He's got one too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>women just want to frick me because I’m nobility >my brother doesn’t like me because I have jesus blood in my veins and he doesn’t
Not really tragic…
2 years ago
Anonymous
His brother also left him to die in a well in the middle of Russian winter.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And we have reason to believe there were multiple attempts. Remember, Miklan was disinherited once Sylvain's crest was discovered, but he wasn't actually disowned until three years before the game.
Ignatz, Raphael, and Leonie kill the Golden Deer for me. I don’t hate them but they’re so bland
2 years ago
Anonymous
Leonie is the best character there though and Raphael is wholesome as frick. I agree with Ignatz though, easily the weakest of the group but he's slowly growing on me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I appreciate that Raphael is the one person in the setting who actually went through a healthy grieving process but since that's all in his backstory he just ends up being "Muh Meat/Muscles".
I honestly hate Ashe too but he’s definitely a character meant to appeal to female Beckys. He’s like that (obtainable) nice good looking slightly effeminate church boy they know that they want inside them
These people are sad, how do you get so attached to a fiction character. I honestly feel bad for them, something fricked up must have happened to make them that way
Not really, it's just that these guys are really annoying, especially the guy that posts that green b***h from that Alice game that gets spammed here on Ganker
At first, it was my own way of coping with the whole new protag situation. I was actually seriously upset that Byleth got replaced with some new dude, and even worse that this new guy just got to go on cute picnics with my daughter-wives. But as the days have gone by, the funny meltdowns in these threads both by myself and others have made me calm down a bit and realize that I was seething over nothing. The game is fictional and even has other pairings that other people use that I don't agree with. So if I can ignore those ships in three houses, I can just ignore the ships in this game too. Also, I play as femshez as my canon anyways, and the entire musou is just a what-if. Basically the same as a world where my waifu Constance actually marries that frick Balthus instead of Byleth. If it's not canon to ME, it doesn't matter. Just have fun mindlessly clicking combos on the screen.
With this new revelation, I now just joke about the NTR elements to bylethgays who still don't get it. .
The game itself is very fun. All right, I'm going to take my schizo pills now. Good night.
irl 'bisexuality' is really just a fancy way for zoomer snowflakes to justify being straight, all these moronic teenage girls call themselves bisexual while mainly just sucking wiener.
If this homosexual board has taught me anything its that a decent number of men are in fact bisexual and are perfectly willing to frick another dude as long as they are remotely feminine but these are the same guys that would frick a hamplanet just because it has a vegana. Why do you think there’s so many pictures of female characters drawn with giant dick on the internet
Does this game continue off from the endings of the first game?
Three Houses had those comfy dating sim high school parts - does Three Hopes have something comparable?
I've never once heard the monastery accused of being "comfy" and in fact most of the commentary towards it is described as irritating and bloated. So no, the monastery has been replaced with a far smaller base camp. There's still social things to do in it but it's not as spaced out and the time requirement is far less.
As for the story, also no. It's an AU where the house leaders don't meet Byleth and Jeralt in Remire Village. Instead they bump into a mercenary in the forest and bring them back to the monastery while Byleth just continues being the Ashen Demon
Your enjoyment of this game hinges on how much you care about Fodlan's background lore being expanded and how much you like watching different character supports.
Unless your favorite character is Claude.
>I've never once heard the monastery accused of being "comfy" and in fact most of the commentary towards it is described as irritating and bloated.
This and needing to do the entire white clouds portion 3 fricking times with minimal differences in the story pre-timeskip.
Why would Byleth care about Shez increasing his/her social rank with Edelgard when Byleth never met Edelgard in the split timeline? Unless that image was drawn by a self-inserting nerd who thinks "they" are Byleth....no-one would do that...right?
How does that negate my point? Byleth teaches Claude better so he doesn't want to become king of Fodlan, while Shez doesn't and, as you said, leads him to it. Claude would not want to become king of Fodlan with Byleth. I think you're starting to realize how stupid you're argument is and are now reaching for straws. Just admit you were wrong and walk away
I'm not negating your point at all, I'm pretty sure I'm agreeing with you? I'm just mot understanding why some people think that byleth picking a different house to teach leading into alternate timelines is fine but the 3 leaders getting incercepted by Shez and splitting the timeline yet again is considered non-canon. Does Claude express desires to become king of the alliance in 3 houses? I haven't gotten that far but in 3 hopes i know Shez is the one who brings up the idea in the first place, which leads me to believe it's less Byleth preventing Claude from becomming king and more Shez putting the idea in his head.
>Why would Byleth care about Shez increasing his/her social rank with Edelgard when Byleth never met Edelgard in the split timeline? Unless that image was drawn by a self-inserting nerd who thinks "they" are Byleth....no-one would do that...right?
Edelgard is literally right next to Byleth in the pic. She's sad that a game came out with her wife and she can't interact with her in it.
>I'm not negating your point at all, I'm pretty sure I'm agreeing with you?
Then I apologize, I misinterpreted your post. Claude does see it fit to make a king of Fodlan in houses, but instead of himself he chooses Byleth. I think that since king of Fodlan is a constant in Claude's routes, that he also would have wanted to be one in houses had Byleth not taught him to be better. I do agree with you that hopes and houses are both equally canon, just different timelines. I was not the anon arguing that hopes is not canon.
actually this thread was really good for me and made lots of things clear, that back and forth of the anons earlier helped immensely, I initially thought it was a direct sequel but now I know its a alternate universe with the same characters and I'm actually interested in playing it now.
I like the idea of BOAR but I also recognize that it was never what Dimitri wanted to be. Dimitri desperately wants to be a magnanimous and understanding King and his blood rages is a condition he's deeply ashamed of. He tries to hide it at every opportunity. He apologizes profusely to Byleth in chapter 8 of Houses. He doesn't want to be that. Which always makes it strange when people praise him the most for hitting rock bottom and getting lost in the worst version of himself.
He's not unifying fodlan anyway, it's all his personal issues which don't really reflect in what he does for his people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dimitri's personal journey is the opposite of Edelgard. He says it multiple times: there are somethings you simply cannot accept but its only after his recovery that he says he'd rather strive for cooperation rather than blunt annihilation. This worldview is the opposite of Edelgard who refuses to tolerate anything that doesn't fit into her new world. In her view you either fall in line or die. That's why during their parley they can admit that they have a fundamental disconnect in the way they think. But Dimitri still tries all the way to the end.
Because he truly faced his demons when he hit rock bottom, so his arc feels more complete. Hopesmitri still looks as if he could snap at any moment.
Sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom to start climbing back up.
The majority of the time Dimitri doesn't survive hitting rock bottom. And the one time he does he came to the razor's edge of losing everything
2 years ago
Anonymous
And it's only having genuine help from someone who had no obligation to him did he realize that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's right. There are no guarantees that you'll make it once you hit rock bottom. Even when he does pull himself up, his demons are still there, but he chooses to face them head-on instead of choosing to try seeking revenge for their sake and live for himself and what he believes in, which only happens in AM.
Caspar is strong as frick he isn't some kinda twink , she literally physically can't rape caspar only like Hilda, because she has Kingpin strength and Edelgard because she also has Kingpin strength. Literally byleth of those girlsl probably have like Gorilla DNA in them.
completely ignore builds and make your females back into fighters and equip fists
Lorenz doing anything
lategame Constance spamming magic without a care of durability
>I am your man!
I regret not using Ferdie more, Emile was such a monster I didn't really use any other lance users. RIP Billy, his performance was great and the writers really did him justice in this game.
Anyone else feel like the martial classes blow the magic classes completely out of the water?
The main perk of tome classes are the magic combat arts, which are good. However all magic combat arts can be used by endgame martials but martials have better movesets in general that may even incorporate magic attacks in their normal strikes. This means that even characters like mercedes can make full use of their essence of Light power by going holy knight and gain a powerful moveset that will be hyper-buffed by their own unique magic boosting skills.
Don't get me wrong, I make almost every character master the mage or bishop line of classes but that's because endgame everyone is reliant on elemental effects to some extant and so Fiendish blow and essence of are a mainstay for every martial. How do you make Felix's grounder better? Give him lightning grounder with essence of lightning and fiendish blow, he'll knock enemies flying and deal shittons of damage.
Seriously, the only martials that can't abuse the shit out of this are axe and gauntlet users and they get plenty of elemental combat arts anyway.
Magic classes are funny in that they disregard damage for the 50% cooldown to oneshot something faster. If you max out Shez you'll realize you don't want more damage but to be able to use X art faster either being Dark Spikes or Swift Slice, but since Swift Slice is a sword thing Shez doesn't want to be a gremory instead of her Asura or Dancer class, but Lysithea will have that awkward state if you prefer her nuking with shadowblade or faster Dark Spikes and Luna magic
>Mr. Genki Yokota (Nintendo), Supervisor: >Including everything found in Fire Emblem: Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes, we believe that what the player ultimately considers canon is the canon. We discussed and developed the game between the three companies (Koei Tecmo Games/Intelligent Systems/Nintendo) to play this way. >Mr. Toshiyuki Kusakihara (Intelligent Systems), Character Designer and Supervisor: >I think it’s canon too. Originally, in Three Houses, there were three houses and four main storylines that were all a different fate based on your choices. The paths chosen and experienced by each player are all truths and our idea was that there is not one canon. The same goes for this title and our idea was that three completely new potential routes were opened up by having a new main character in the beginning. >Mr. Yosuke Hayashi (Koei Tecmo Games), Producer: >I think in terms of nuances, the phrase “different story” would be more accurate than “spin-off”. Even in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, there was no hierarchical relationship between the four storylines. We want to leave it up to the player to judge how he feels about this title.
AM is just as canon as CF is because they are from Houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And Hopes is just as canon as Houses
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is but at the same time it’s not because the events of Hopes do not effect Houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Indeed, both are canon and non-canon af the same time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In other words, an au.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Since both games are qeually canon and non-canon at the same time that would make 3 houses an au to 3 hopes as well. At this point it's just which game do you like more. So far I like the nuso game more wo 3 houses is the au, and since what is or isn't canon is up to the individual that means I'm correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It also means AM is an AU to CF which is an AU to GW which is an AU to SB which is an AU to SS which is an AU to VW which is an AU to AG.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again no. See pic related.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Gentlemen the timeline discussion has finally been solved.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Again, no, see what the devs literally said >we believe that what the player ultimately considers canon is the canon. >I think it’s canon too. >The paths chosen and experienced by each player are all truths and our idea was that there is not one canon. >Even in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, there was no hierarchical relationship between the four storylines. We want to leave it up to the player to judge how he feels about this title. >Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
>Mr. Genki Yokota (Nintendo), Supervisor: >Including everything found in Fire Emblem: Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes, we believe that what the player ultimately considers canon is the canon. We discussed and developed the game between the three companies (Koei Tecmo Games/Intelligent Systems/Nintendo) to play this way. >Mr. Toshiyuki Kusakihara (Intelligent Systems), Character Designer and Supervisor: >I think it’s canon too. Originally, in Three Houses, there were three houses and four main storylines that were all a different fate based on your choices. The paths chosen and experienced by each player are all truths and our idea was that there is not one canon. The same goes for this title and our idea was that three completely new potential routes were opened up by having a new main character in the beginning. >Mr. Yosuke Hayashi (Koei Tecmo Games), Producer: >I think in terms of nuances, the phrase “different story” would be more accurate than “spin-off”. Even in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, there was no hierarchical relationship between the four storylines. We want to leave it up to the player to judge how he feels about this title.
Don't think any of the google docs have it listed so I think this is all the mandatory recruits if you only want to play each route once but get all the supports and paralogues. Apologies if I fricked up and missed someone. >Scarlet Blaze
Mercedes
Lorenz
Lysithea
Balthus
Constance
Hapi
Jeralt >Azure Gleam
Bernadetta
Dorothea
Petra
Lorenz
Raphael
Ignatz
Marianne
Yuri
Constance
Shamir
Jeralt >Golden Wildfire
Linhardt
Dorothea
Balthus
Hapi
Constance
Jeralt
–Finally, a message to the fans who have been waiting for this game, please.
Yokoda: This may be a what-if story on the land of Fodlan, but is also a story that may or may not exist. Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide. >Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide. >Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide. >up for everyone playing to decide. >up for everyone playing to decide. >up for everyone playing to decide. >up for everyone playing to decide.
>The routes of Hopes? Not valid to 3H.
The routes of 3H? Not valid to Hopes.
Anon this is just circular logic at this point, it's a pointless sloop we have to break free from. Take my hand and we can leave together.
According to the dictionary: >a question about what could happen or what could have happened in a particular situation if something was or had been different
That makes ALL different routes what-ifs, or did people forget phrases and words have actual meanings?
According to the dictionary: >a question about what could happen or what could have happened in a particular situation if something was or had been different
That makes ALL different routes what-ifs, or did people forget phrases and words have actual meanings?
>What if Byleth met the students and joined the Blue Lions? >What if Byleth met the students and joined the Golden Deer? >What if Byleth met the students and joined the Black Eagles, later siding with Edelgard? >What if Byleth met the students and joined the Black Eagle, later siding with Rhea? >What if Shez met the students and joined the Blue Lions? >What if Shez met the students and joined the Golden Deer? >What if Shez met the students and joined the Black Eagles?
Anyone else still love Sylvain's paralogue where he ensures peace with the Sreng by promising to pound the Commander's bussy if he brought wine instead of steel?
>Who lost the most.
Self-InsertBlack folk, Claudegays
>Who lost the least.
BLgays
>BLgays
understatement, they lost nothing.
they lost lysithea and leonie. both best girls
>leonie
>best anything
Isn't that a win?
Dimitri is uninteresting in this game. he's basically Joe Biden.
>ruthlessly executes all his enemies in public
>hangs the heads of everyone else involved on pikes
>forces claude's hand to do his dirty work for him
>but he doesn't go boar on screen so he's joe biden
>ruthlessly executes all his enemies in public
>hangs the heads of everyone else involved on pikes
I tucking wish
in fact we gained something. AG is an improved AM
>AG is an improved AM
Thanks fir the laugh anon, but it won’t bring back the time I wasted on this game.
>0 major deaths unless you kill Jeralt
>ends on a better note than 3Houses Verdant wind
>only bad thing is that Dimitri doesn't go full BOAR
He keeps getting away with it
>only bad thing is that Dimitri doesn't go full BOAR
But the whole point is Jeritza going dude lmao kill everyone and fricking up the deception causes them to move up the timeline before they were ready which fricks the plans to unseat demtri and so he never goes full punished mode.
>only bad thing is that Dimitri doesn't go full BOAR
Isn't that why people like Dimitri in the first place?
Pretty much. Take that way and he’s a decent Lord, but the boar is brings out the worst and absolute best in Dimitri.
I'd say he's better than decent but AM Dimitri's just beyond him.
Without Boar he's basically just Chrom but his autism is less comedic and more awkward
The boar made him sympathetic and tragic. Without that he’s just a generic male load like Eliwood or Marth. Ephraim at least had his incestuous relationship with his sister
>Without that he’s just a generic male load like Eliwood or Marth
Eliwood is my favorite FE lord and one of my favorite characters in the series and I'm tired of everyone shitting on him.
I would shit on him if he wasn’t such a sucky lord and existed in the same universe as Hector.
Hector dies due to fight autism and Eliwood's son plows Lilina's fields every night, frick you.
I bet you can’t, b***h
glup shitto
Is that the homophobic slug?
>taking RLM seriously
That fat alcoholic Milwaukee hack Mike should die and finally free Rich and Jay from having to star in his shitty internet videos. Anyway
>kind
>thoughtful about his actions, but doesn't let cautiousness paralyze his decision making
>clearly well-bred, but can relate to the more down to Earth characters
>understands politics but doesn't let politics corrupt him
>cares for others
>noble bearing
>can get very emotional, but tries to put on a good face in front of others to keep their spirits up
>is a great fighter, canonically has more wins on Hector in their duels
>can be a bit cheeky and sarcastic, but doesn't do it in a cruel way
Eliwood is great.
Okay, now describe Sigurd, Seliph, Marth, Lief, Alm, and Chrome
>kind
>thoughtful about his actions, but doesn't let cautiousness paralyze his decision making
>clearly well-bred, but can relate to the more down to Earth characters
>understands politics but doesn't let politics corrupt him
>cares for others
>noble bearing
>can get very emotional, but tries to put on a good face in front of others to keep their spirits up
>is a great fighter, canonically has more wins on Hector in their duels
>can be a bit cheeky and sarcastic, but doesn't do it in a cruel way
Done.
Sigurd
>mentally moronic, his moron strength allows him to conquer the continent by accident
Seliph
>boring compared to his dad
Marth
>was cooler in Smash bros
Lief
>his life is suffering
Alm
>Echoes gameplay was so bad I stopped playing
Chrom
>total bro, let me frick his daughter
A big dumb idiot who always gets lost, jumps off cliffs for training, and gets into arguments with the voices in their head about how to best handle their rival. Despite this everyone keeps asking their opinion so they've resorted to using quotes from popular media to appear more wise than they are.
That Lysithea support was gold. I love Shezzie so much.
He’s completely boring, anon. Hector and Lyn completely mog him in his own game. He even fails the Plinkett test
>Lyn scored a critical hit!
>plink plink plink plink plink
>0 damage!
>doesn't show up in the sequel, no one mentions or cares about her
Your waifu is shit.
give her some steroids
>Lyn completely mog him
>Lyn
>Failed
I dunno, Dimitri seems pretty happy.
Btw anyone know the artist?
Last thread went to shit because of NTR homosexualry you utter subhuman
Why you blame me? The devs did this
This game has no pairings, the other one did. You wouldn’t know unless you played them ntrgay.
are all agarthans body hoppers to some extent like epimenides? they talk about their flesh being weak or whatever; maybe something like the black core they have inside of them is moved into new bodies?
I'd say so going by Thales.
Edelgard, her mar...
Oh, wait.
Mar?
Mar Mar!
marbles
This was a cruel blue balling
>please buy the dlc to see the resolution to shez's plot
I can think of a crueler one
>playing a musou game
never ever
I'm playing it and it's quite fun.
any chance shez mom is alive?
Possibly, also it's strange, Shez's mom isn't their actual mom, just adopted, so Shez's real parents died, and their adopted mom also died, to poor kid had a very rough life.
I assume Shez was some kind of Agarthan test tube baby so they never actually had parents, and Shez' mom ran away with them
Hope we get Shez backstory in any future DLC for this game if possible.
I hope that shez gets gangbanged by all the guys
>shez' unseen mom is probably the only good agarthan ever
Who is Epimenides?
She is 100% dead because Shez stated it in some support (Unfortunately, I forgot which one)
By far, the only thing I lose in this game is my wallet. Shits expensive to upgrade.
Where was this in Three Houses?
Due to his sylvain support, someone had the decency to tell Dimitri you DON'T give out daggers as present.
Here it's just full autism.
Alright let’s have a discussion: can Edelgard beat Ike in combat?
No, because she's an woman
No. Ike has weapon triangle advantage
On an average Edelgard build, no.
On a moron build where Edelgard's natural inclinations for sword use can nullify Ike's weapon triangle advantage, her raw durability and strength can even the odds. Or even more horrifyingly for a Tellius character, being an actual competent magic user with stats to back it up? She'll deep fry him.
They’re besties according to FEH. if they had to fight, Ike has weapon triangle advantage but he’s also a sword locked infantry unit. Edelgard has far more options including magic and wyvern riding. If she’s just her normal emperor class? Ike easily. If Edelgard uses the tools she has access to, she wins.
Well if it's FEHverse then Hegemon and Summer Edelgard can beat most versions of Ike.
Ike is kinda shitty in FEH from my knowledge because his alts are mostly old and have been powercrept
That depends on the weapon.
>Edelgard exploiting honest men who just want axes for cannon fodder
Sasuga Edelgard.
Edelgard is so cute
How could anyone say no to her?
>gets her head split 3/4 of the time
>one of those 3 times is by default
>you have to go out of your way to say yes to her, implying that saying no to her is Byleth's default
Only cucks ship Edelgard/Byleth
I mean, pretty much all of Edelgard's possible love interests can do better.
Look at this thread, only cucks ship byleth with anyone.
Does it count as cucking if the person doing the cucking steals both parties?
At that point it's a threesome.
Byleth is for Shez
Well, at least I don't think I've heard this one before
>shouldn't that also be good for the romancegays?
There's no S ranks in this game or paired endings
>Well, at least I don't think I've heard this one before
That’s because Edelgard has a better ending with Ferdinand than Byleth, her supposed soulmate.
Ferdie and El are besties, but he loves his wife Dorothea.
A ship as terrible as Edelgard/Byleth
>There's no S ranks in this game or paired endings
WELL WHY ARE PEOPLE SO ASSHURT ABOUT THIS GAME THEN
Because people are self conscious at a bit of shipteasing
i don't date prostitutes
Because they self inserted as Byleth when they remanced their waifu in 3 houses instead of being normal and realising Byleth is his/her own character and are mad that Byleth isn't in the forfront of 3 hopes. That or they just really hate muso games.
Speaking for myself
>the ending is dogshit
>Byleth's implementation in the game is really poor, I would almost prefer she not be in it at all. The fact that you can recruit her but she has no supports with any of the students make her feel like a husk of a character, like she was modded in. I do like that in her few scenes she has actual voice acting though
But I actually overall liked this game far more than i expected to
>husk of a character
Very fitting to what Byleth is then
>the hidden route is the only one where you can save best girl
And that's what makes it canon!
>is the shortest, most rushed route
They didn’t want this to happen.
>giving catherine the merc whistle gives you a dagdan whetstone
i wonder if its the two-toned whetstone from three houses
>introduce actual sympathetic slithers like epimenides and (probably) shez's mom
>do nothing impactful with them
Could have had an Agarthan civil war plot, oh well.
Literally mr
>Who lost the most.
Chuds who seethe about yuri/yaoi
>Who lost the least.
Fujos
More yuri means trannies win because they’re the ones who self insert as girls to begin with. Why do you think Edel/Femleth is popular amongst them?
imagine the smell
Need her sitting on my face.
What smells like deer?
Deer smells like deer.
But why does my dear smell like deer?
Deergays and Rheatrannies lost the most.
Edelgard came out on top like always
>Edelgard came out on top like always
She literally becomes the sex toy of Thales and Ferdinand’s ugly bastard father because she didn’t wipe them out
Deergays can at least ride Edelgard’s coattails on this one since they have an alliance (as long Byleth is recruited)
>expecting the Deers to get a good end when Claude is leading them
>Edelgard came out on top
>left a broken moron in one route
>her own route is basically unfinished again
For me it's Hubertduck.
No one lost based on a confirmed what-if story homosexual. Your endless shitpost about NTR or BLgays claiming they've "won" won't change this fact.
>Who lost the least
Edelgard and Dimitri. Their routes were pretty much perfect.
>Who lost the most
Rhea. She gets shat on by literally everyone, even Dimitri.
Claudegays won since he's an infinitely more interesting character than he was in 3H so cope.
We won.
>ashen demon
>nothing ashen about her
>she's not a demon either
???
I just beat Scarlet Blaze after 95 hours @.@. Are the other routes at all worth playing? If so, which route should I play?
are all routes that long? wtf, or are you just a very slow gamer
AG is just Diet AM.
GW is if you wanna see Claude go full moron without Byleth around.
Do either of AG or GW reveal anything about shez? I still have no idea what the frick her or epidermis are @.@. Also, I don't care about Almyra. I just want some lore answers.
Oh, and is there any church route like in 3 Houses?
>Do either of AG or GW reveal anything about shez?
Lol.
SB is the best one
>Three hopes is by far the most complex and engaging muso on the market
How are the other games going to compete? Do you think pirate warriors 5, whatever the next dynasty warriors game is, or the next hyrule warriors game will incorperate any of the mechanics or difficulty three hopes has implemented? 3H seriously blows those other games out of the water and makes shit like age of calamity look like a childs toy in comparison.
Fire Emblem Warriors 3 makes very barebones improvements over FEW1's systems and even though FEW1 came out in 2017, indeed being one of the first Switch games announced, any succeeding musou did not capitalize on any of its innovations.
Go play Samurai Warriors 5 and see how half-baked its tactical systems are compared to 3Hopes
Maybe it's because Fire Emblem itself is an SRPG? Still, it's not like it's asking too much to be implemented into the Dynasty/Samurai home series, if not other spinoffs like Hyrule, anime adaptations, etc.
I like Age of Calamity for the map designs, movesets and the 1-vs-1's, they blow Three Hopes out of the water although Three Hopes is certainly a lot better as an overall musou while AoC feels more like a 3D beat-em up.
AOC definitely had better gameplay but my god that fricking story was moronic
I think Hopes did as well as they could considering the loads and loads of characters nature of the FE series. Giving everyone some gimmicks to mix and match with existing class movesets was the best option.
>Hard mode
>enemies just stand still doing nothing waiting for me to hit them
nice game, musoutards
>got halfway into my second route before discovering the Dark Creator Sword
the what now
the one thing worth spending your renown on that isn't sothis, rhea, and vanguard whistles
Heros Relic that even crestlets can use, doubles all your hits. No consider that Shez is the quick attack spamming god of this game.
Too bad we only the Sublime creator sword gets the whip sword combat art, but Shez gets her teleport spam EFFECTIVE-ALL attack and Luna, or you can spam sweeps likes me.
imo the horse slayer art did more than Luna ever could
Literally me. It changed the game and makes Shez basically a one unit map clearing monster
is there a musou game with 3 vs 3 PVP online?
AIs are braindead it's not fun
Hilda's harem of hot girls
>Mercedes recognized Jeritza's voice
b***h HE'S USING A VOICE CHANGER
😀
The canon ending.
>becomes Dimitri’s braindead little sister
Lel
I love Femleth so much
We know Edelgard
Edelgard is going to be cucked by Shez :3
Man, self-inserters are legitimately seething about this game.
He’s not wrong, the ending DID make it feel like a waste of time.
I agree with him. If you liked Byleth, the entire game just feels like a NTR plotline.
this scene in particular, while supposed to be light-hearted and wholesome just unironically makes me seethe. The way all of the golden bros and sisters just look at Byleth and give these cheesy lines like "heeey, what if we knew you in another timeline teehee" bullshit. It just feels so gross.
I HATE IT!
These are fictional characters, you are not being NTR.
Hang your self you NTR subhuman you’ve never played these games
>entire game was a ntr plotline
frick, im glad im not the only one who felt the same way. The entire scene just reminded me of pic related.
someone really needs to make hilda edit of this image
Why do some people call naughty face as ntr face or link it to that nowadays?
Why are you responding to yourself?
>now where did my FAVORITE mercenary go
wow, okay. Frick you too Claude.
Don't get too worked up, Shez's favorite mercenary is Byleth
>If you liked Byleth
Byleth was basically a blank slate though, why would you get annoyed?
>Being this unhinged
The endings are just underbaked, this person speaks like Three Hopes raped his mom.
>the self-insertgay is an ESL
It all makes so much sense now.
nah the ending was 100% pure shit
>Man, self-inserters are legitimately seething about this game.
Shez is legitimately great so fun to run her and Byleth with the Sublime/Dark Creator swords and their Tulpa's as adjutants. You can basically treat their partner specials as (form anyone else's view) just byleth and Shez going that hard on whatever poor bastard they're targeting.
>who lost the most
berniebros, claudebros, rheagays, bylethsisters
>who lost the least
people who have this as their first fire emblem game
>people who have this as their first fire emblem game
That would be me. I never got into fire emblem because I'm bad at strategy games and don't particularly like them, and I never played fire emblem warriors despite enjoying muso games because at least for me, I need to be into the series in order to fully enjoy the characters I'm playing in said muso game. When three hopes came out and I understood it was essentially the "age of calamity" of fire emblem muso games I decided to take a step into the series.
My plan was to buy three hopes and three houses and play through at least one route in three houses, then match that route in three hopes. But I've been enjoying the gameplay of hopes so much that I've pretty much dropped my playthrough of houses and I'm going to reverse it. Complete a route in 3 hopes, and then do that same route in 3 houses to fill in my gaps of knowledge and context. I didn't end up buying houses though, borrowed it from a friend so eventually when he pries it out of my hands i'll just buy my own copy. I should add that while I still am not a major fan of turn based strategy games, 3 houses on normal isn't frustrating to me and I very much enjoy the classroom setting. I'm doing Claude's route first, then I'll probably do Edelgard last.
You really did pick the worst FEs to start your introduction into the series because the gameplay is very poor even for a series with simple gameplay style.
Yeah I hear the gameplay of houses is considered poor, but the gameplay of 3 hopes is keeping me invested and drawing attention to the setting enough that I want to play houses so i can learn more of the story, which I hear is really good, at least in 3 houses. hopes' story I hear is poor in comparison.
>people are playing 3 hopes as their first fire emblem game
>these people are going to ship Shez with one of the original 3house waifus because they don't know who byleth is
WAKE ME UP
I highly doubt the amount of people playing 3 hopes that don't know that not only is 3 hopes a game set in the 3 houses universe, but Byleth is the main protag of that game is as high as you think. Even if someone had never heard of 3 houses like you mentioned, Byleth is introduced at the start of 3 hopes as your rival, which would lead any inquisitive mind in the direction of researching who they are, considering you had to give them a name and form.
femShez X femByleth
From Deer's new route:
>Byleth is a much better character than in Houses on behalf of him not being completely mute
>his supports with Jeralt are nice
>Leonie also got improved, as she is now no longer hungry for (your) dad's wiener (and her arc with Jeralt does get some closure)
>rest of the deers are about the same as what I remember from House's
>Claude got both upgraded in a way and severely downgraded in another way
From the very beginning (I'm talking prologue only here) of Eagle:
>Edelgard is no longer a moron
You can just not take your waifu on expeditions you know. You can not do their fricking supports. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to NTR yourself with another character that you have full control over.
They are still CONCEPTUALLY KEKED the idea is there, the asset is there, and the choice is there, the only thing they can do is ignore but, the idea will haunt them for the rest of their attachment time.
Rate my theory.
Even in the base game you can have your waifu get married with someone else in the ending, THE ASSET IS THERE THE IDEA IS THERE you fricking conceptual kekold.
Not going to lie, it’s this for me. Knowing that the Camilla/Takumi support exists where she’s desperate to hop on his twink dick makes me internally rage and really did ruin her character for me. With all the other supports she is very stand-offish or annoyed until she warms up to then in the end. With Takumi she literally seducing him by the C support and trucks him into going on a date in their B support. Drives me fricking nuts to be honest considering she’s supposed to be obsessed with (You)
You are pathetic.
There is a difference between "trivial" and "Literal moronation", these people are in love with a pretty picture and scripted lines, fictional characters who don't exist, and these people are so in love with them even the IDEA that they possibly could get with some other character who also doesn't exist is as bad as IRL cheating to them, like HOLY SHIT.
That’s just how the human brain works, moron. Why do you think people cry at sad movies (cartoon ones even) or fall in love with celebrities they’ll never meet? Just because media progressed faster than humans evolved does’t mean that the human brain isn’t easily swayed by what are essentially illusions
we're human bean
Gee mister, you sure are crazy
I mean I do get what you mean. I really didn't like Bernadetta and Ferdie's A - Support in houses since it made my bernie blush like a schoolgirl in heat...
But srsly bro? Camilla...? Shes an actual canon flirty bawd. She was most likely just teasing that gay takumi since his head was so far up his ass. Also Fates waifus are unironically shit and one-dimensional, idk how you can get jealous over those archetypes. Especially one as basic as Camilla.
>Fates waifus are unironically shit and one-dimensional
this coming from a berniegay
Factually untrue.
She’s Cornsexual and is often dismissive or just agitated with every other male unit in their C supports. That said she is probably just fricking with Takumi for shits and giggles before he flips it back on her in their S support
Camilla literally wants to frick anything that moves
Why do you think those complaining have NTR porn images saved like
?
These gays are tsunderes and kinda like it.
the problem is that the expeditions are actually extremely cute and well designed. It's just with the new protagonist so those who self-inserted as Byleth just get shitty vibes from it.
Me, I'm just coping with it by playing as femshez. But I still find myself wondering how much better it would feel, if they just kept byleth as the main MC and I could go on dates with my waifu in this new spin-off.
Oh well, the monkey paw simply curled. No use fighting it. It is just a game...
My favorite part is that in theory is any character truly Byleth only? What's the difference from making say Raphael the main character and having him "ntr" Byleth?
Right? If I wanted certain endings for characters I just wouldn't activate their A/+ supports with characters I didn't want them to end up with to make things easier. I don't self insert, even in shit like Animal Crossing or Pokemon, so seeing people getting upset over this to the point of depression is weird to me.
Every human have something trivial that we care about irrationally simply due to autism or loneliness's sake. When your own trivial thing is exposed and you start seething over it, you'll understand. And people will also look at you confused about why you care about something so dumb.
>so seeing people getting upset over this to the point of depression is weird to me.
it’s literally a ntr shitposters who have now derailed the thread.
what does her blood compels her to do?
Facesit me
It’s weird that Marianne ended up being the canonical dancer of 3H
Have sex with animals
with my wiener to be specific
>marianne is happy and smiling in Byleth's universe.
>she's still depressed in shez's
It's the little things.
Marianne doesn’t so that, anon. She’s just gets pressured into increasingly lewd situations with random good looking men by Hilda so she can watch Marianne’s embarrassment for her own amusement as she corrupts her
This would be even hotter if I was Marianne's boyfriend.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU ARE NOT GETTING FRICKING NTR HOLY SHIT
This, what the frick is wrong with you anons? Byleth is a character, none of you are actually Byleth.
Hey OP I just want to call you homosexual for starting this and the thread is terrible because of you.
anything like this with edelgard-shez-femleth?
Ask your mother’s dog,
Ah, Green hat Otto. Soemone I haven't seen in a while.
Aiiieee! My thesis is rejected by the professor!
But, yes, that is correct! Byleth self inserters were CONCEPTUALLY KEKED people all along.
I didn't know someone actually feel this way. Sorry about that.
Dating sim games are fricking awful.
t. homosexual
yeah. honestly, i didn't see it at first, but she's perfect in hindsight
Marianne with cow breasts, hot and cursed.
What a fricking shitshow of a thread
Lysithea is so cute
The homies in this thread are being cucked by videogame characters lmao
A gokubro moment.
Yes my wife left me, because she fell in love with Dimitri and now she's a fujo
Fujos would rather see Dimitri frick Felix than frick him themselves
It feels like people just throw fujo this, fujo that, as general purpose term rather than actually referring to fujoshi. Probably.
Yes, anons are moronic.
Confirming.
Does your back hurt?
No, I'm Asian.
NTRgays might be worse than Nick
>Anon's Fire Emblem Series Emulation & Modding Guide
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- all Fire Emblem & Kaga Saga titles
- UNDUBs, translations, updates/DLCs, mods, ROM hacks, randomizers, cheats...
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>>(FE2) Gaiden
>>(FE3) Mystery of the Emblem
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>>(FE6) The Binding Blade
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>>(FEW) Warriors (3DS & Switch)
>>(FE16) Three Houses
- character modding/swapping & Sothis, Rhea and any other NPCs playable in combat
>>(FEW3H) Warriors: Three Hopes
- Yuzu users - follow the step #1 of the Ryujinx setup
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>FAQ:
Can I emulate <insert an FE title>?
- pre-3DS/3DS titles - Most likely yes.
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Can I transfer save files from <insert device> to an emulator?
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Thank you for the guide anon, Hopes is running sweetly here.
>>>(FEW3H) Warriors: Three Hopes
>- Yuzu users - follow the step #1 of the Ryujinx setup
Wait, Yuzu works now??
>didn't understand the joke
so since the byleth interactions with the characters are all meaningless and non canon which ending in three houses is canon?
Three Hopes is just another set of what-if scenarios, making for 8 different outcomes in total.
It’s a spin-off not associated with the main game. How many times do we need to have this discussion?
Apparently at least one more time since you are going against what the devs themselves said, Three Hopes's 4 endings are just as canon as Houses's 4 endings, 8 different what-if outcomes.
Devs never called Houses a spin-off, meanwhile they called Hopes that multiple times became it’s not a main game nor on equal footing with it. A spin-off.
Spinoff =/= non-canon, moron.
Come back to me when Hopes fits into the 3H routes and isn’t a spin-off.
Houses's routes don't even fit with each other. and spin-off =/= non-canon.
Sorry Copescucks, your shitty musou’s story doesn’t into into 3H nor continue it but instead show it in a separate direction, hence why the devs called it a what-if.
All of Houses' routes are what-ifs, these are just more what-ifs.
The what-ifs of Hopes are separate from Houses because they are a completely different from the mainline plot of the school/five year war, hence a spin-off.
It’s not that hard to understand.
No its not, shez literally goes to school with them at the beginning and then a time skip happens, and they fight a war. Its the same thing but with shez instead of byleth. Not all routes in three houses end up the same, for example rhea isn't captured in all the routes nor is Dimitri blinded in one eye in every route.
>Its the same thing but with shez instead of byleth.
It’s not because you never have Edelgard casting out the slithers early on or Claude crowning himself king of the Alliance in 3H, that can only ever happen in Hopes.
Yes, because instead of Byleth they got Shez, Byleth is the reason they don't do that. With Byleth the bandits escape to the red canyon so casting the slithers out early can't happen, and Claude becomes a better person with Byleth teaching him so he doesn't become king of Fodlan. Its literally butterfly effect. That's the entire theme of the game, three hopes is just a larger butterfly effect that follows the set up but replaces Byleth with Shez
>so he doesn't become king of Fodlan
Nah, he's got a scheme for that, too.
God I fricking hate Claude
Shez is also the one who TELLS Claude to become king of the alliance. It's literally the C rank social interaction. You'd think that these people haven't played the game or something.
How does that negate my point? Byleth teaches Claude better so he doesn't want to become king of Fodlan, while Shez doesn't and, as you said, leads him to it. Claude would not want to become king of Fodlan with Byleth. I think you're starting to realize how stupid you're argument is and are now reaching for straws. Just admit you were wrong and walk away
Can you homos shut up? your pointless bickering is incredibly boring to read
We saved this thread from the NTR homosexualry. If anything you owe us.
No.
Oh shit, sorry, did you want to talk more about how you're getting cucked by Shez? My bad
Anon, three houses is a what-if. What if byleth chooses the blue lions, what if he choses the golden deer, what if he chooses the black eagles, what if he sides with Edelgarde? Them saying its a what-if IS them saying its canon you dingus. At this point I feel like you're just pretending to be dense
3 Houses routes already don't fit with eachothers
How does hopes not fit into 3 houses when the very idea of 3 houses is split timelines? Hopes just splits alot early because Shez is an unstable factor that doesn't unify and/or apply a salve to the people around them. After Shez intercepts the 3 protags they go on to kill the bandit leader in cold blood as opposed to him fleeing, and then Shez becomes a student, not a professor, causing events to unfold very quickly and in a completely different direction.
>How does hopes not fit into 3 houses when the very idea of 3 houses is split timelines
Because Shez is dead in the 3H timeline and that’s an important part of Hopes. No Shez equals no Hopes.
How does Shez die in the 3Houses timeline if they have Arval reviving them?
They only ever get revived in the Hopes timeline, in other words, A SPLIT TIMELINE THAT CANNOT OCCUR IN THE MAIN TIMELINE.
But there are things in the "main" timeline that can't occur in the "main" timeline itself.
Nta but they're all the same universe just different timelines, houses is the timelines where shez dies and byleth becomes a professor of one of three houses, while hopes is the timelines where shez doesn't die, saves the leaders instead of byleth, and joins one of three houses. The point of these games is that there is no one true route, you're missing the point by saying that some of them aren't canon
Was it ever stated that Shez dies in 3 houses or do they just never show up? I mean i know the character didn't exist until 3 hopes but did any devs mention after the fact since Shez is now a "character in canon". It's pretty hard to ignore them considering Arval is stated to have revived them many times and Shez's goal of fighting Byleth was set in motion 6 months before they could of intercepted the 3 main protags, but didn't in houses.
He obviously wasn't invented at the time but we can assume that in houses timeline he gets killed along with his merc bros by Byleth before the events of the game.
So where's Arval in the houses timeline? How far back is the split if not the interception of the 3 house protags? Am i to believe that the reason for Shez not being around in the 3 houses timeline is that Shez got ass-whooped so hard by Byleth 6 months in the past that Arval just didn't bother to revive them?
That could be a more valid theory, hearing that Byleth died and then just giving up.
Separate, yes, spin off, yes. Non-canon? Nah. Different events happen because a different protag with a different personality gets involved with the 3 main houses. 3 Hopes is the what-if story of what happens if Byleth doesn't get involved and some apologetic merc does instead.
>Non-canon? Nah.
What happens in Three Hopes and what happens in Houses do not effect each other anon. Hence why they are two different AUs.
In Houses what happens in Edelgard route doesn't affect Dimitri route. Hence why they are two different AUs.
Not really considering AM and CF are influenced by Byleth going to school and what house he takes but are not influenced by Shez because that would require Shez to be alive in that timeline.
No, AM and CF cannot affect each other, that is why they are two different AUs
Both of those timelines are tied down by by the events of Byleth and the school, so they can’t be a separate AUs when both are tied to 3H.
Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole, so they can't be separate AUs when both are tied to that.
>Both Houses and Hopes are tied down by the events of Fodlan as a whole
And guess what? Houses is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Byleth. Hopes is a Fodlan influenced heavily by Shez, a character not alive in the former, hence an AU.
Why does one guy not being alive suddenly make it an AU instead of alternate timeline like us joining one of the houses?
Because Byleth is the goddess reincarnated. And also the one who influences the 3 most influential people in the continent. If Byleth isn't there then the house leaders will be left to their own devices with the winner only being dictated by who has the just power under their belt. Which turns Shez is a massive force multiplier.
None of these discreted it from being an alternate timeline.
It’s literally what makes Hope an alternative timeline tho.
No-one disagrees that hopes is a different timeline. the argument is if it is or isn't a different universe, or also known as non-canon. Seems like cope by self-inserting waifugays who can't accept that it's possible that Byleth the character never meets the players waifu and thus the player can't romance them through Byleth the avatar.
>Seems like cope by self-inserting waifugays who can't accept that it's possible that Byleth the character never meets the players waifu and thus the player can't romance them through Byleth the avatar.
Nobody is saying that but you. Are you so dumb as to forget that the other game already had more shipping than this?
I forgot to ad "to me" at the end of my post, so yes, I do believe it is me who has this opinion that while unlikely that no-one else thinks this, it's only me saying it at this moment.
Aren't alternate timelines just another term for multiverse? I'd say that's fine but the problem still remains that there are people who think the events in 3 houses are less valid then the events in 3 hopes.
Ah shit I didn't catch that. That's pretty funny.
Just call it a multiverse and be done with it.
Well, yeah, that is what we were trying to say, just like all the routes in Houses are alternate timelines of each other, with Hopes' extra 4 alternate timelines we have 8 different timelines.
What does it matter? The changes depending on which house you pick are radically different as well. By that logic these are all AUs. And even within those AUs different characters can get killed if you play on classic so can have a ton of various outcomes. Musou made it so another analogous split happens even earlier.
You guys are inconsistent because you clearly see the musou game as lesser and are desperate to enforce that on everyone for some reason.
Exactly, an alternate timeline. Just like Byleth creating alternate timelines by picking a house to teach.
Because it leads to a incredibly different outcome where there is no Byleth and Sothis to create a golden age at the end.
Are you so dense as to not realize that there’s a big differences in the outcome/tone of Hopes and Houses? Are you that fricking dense?
There is big differences between all of Houses' routes as well, as well as Hopes' routes with each other.
All four routes of 3H end with a golden age with Byleth at the helm. You don’t get that in Hopes.
Yet.
Byleth still exists in the 3 hopes timeline though. they're just not getting directly involved with the 3 house leaders because Shez intercepted them before they could meet up with Byleth. No meeting, Byleth doesn't go to the monistary and doesn't become a professor, they stay a merc under the command of Jeralt and do whatever it is they usually do. think of it like this, imagine you had a machine that could let you go back in time. Say you used it to go back in time to your first day of high school, and instead of tripping over your shoelace you tripped a nerd instead. that's basically what happens if you picked Edelgard over Claude at the start of 3 houses. Now, you could also use that machine to go back to elementary school and get run over by a car, leading to your potential highschool GF geting barebacked by that nerd you decided to trip. All timelines are relevent to that universe, the one you died doesn't become less valid then the others because you personally don't like the outcome.
>Byleth still exists in the 3 hopes timeline though.
But not as the teacher which leads to the events of 3H you dense frick
In AM he doesn't exist as a teacher for Black Eagles.
In VW he doesn't exist as a teacher for Blue Lions.
Etc. Literally the same thing you moron.
It’s not because he’s still an instructor as Garreg Mach in everyone one of those timelines you dummy.
Your argument would only make sence if Byleth was an instructor to the same people, in which case there wouldn't even be alternate routes in 3 houses itself. Byleth picking a different classroom to teach is the exact same thing as byleth not meeting the 3 leaders at all.
>Byleth picking a different classroom to teach is the exact same thing as byleth not meeting the 3 leaders at all.
Last I heard, Byleth going to the BL didn’t cause Claude to become Hopes Claude. It’s matters heavily that went there to teach.
Sorry, what's BL stand for again? I'm drawing a blank.
Blue Lions, moron.
Boys love, the house of homos
I immediatly remembered it was Blue Lions after I posted, and you tossing out insults doesn't do your side of the conversation any favours since it just leads me to think you're arguing in bad faith. At any rate, yes, it does matter heavily that Byleth goes to the church to teach. No-one is arguing against that. The issue here is that it's a misconception that it matters at all. We know the timeline changes drastically depending on if Byleth teaches at the school or Shez becomes a student, that's simply fact. The point of all this is that it doesn't matter. A timeline where neither Byleth nor Shez meeting with the 3 leaders, resulting in them dying by bandits would still be canon by the very notion that 3 houses introduced the concept of different timelines via the game itself letting you pick which class to teach. You have to remember the butterfly effect. Byleth still interacts with and molds the lives of the 2 houses they don't directly teach, leading to different, but similar timelines each time, after all you can't cram 3 COMPLETELY different games onto one cartrage. However, you can make a drastically different timeline and turn it into it's own game, which they did with 3 hopes. We could very well see yet another game called 3 Heroes in 4-5 years where neither Byleth nor Shez meet up with Dimitry, Claude, and Edelgard and they fight off the bandits on their own and each route is you playing as one of the 3 leaders themselves. That game, while a spin-off, would still be canon to the 3 houses universe.
You wrote a short story and Hopes is still an AU lmao
I'm bored and what I do at 5:30 in the morning is my own buisness. Hopes is still canon.
Hopes is canon to Hopes, just nit canon to 3H. The only thing they share is lore.
Hopes and Houses are both equally canon in the Fodlan vidya universe.
Cope.
>are both equally canon
>one is just seen as the semi-canon what-if story separate from the mainline according to the devs
Lmao
>one is just seen as the semi-canon
Source?
Check their interview with Famitsu. They state it’s a story that may or may not happen.
Is they were equal then the creators wouldn't have called it a what if story.
I like both games and this argument is dum. lets just agree to disagree and post our favorite character. So far I really like Leonie.
Edelgard will always be my favorite, but I also really like Jeritza in this game and agree they did an amazing job with Ferdinand. I just started BL and I like Felix there, I hope to see more Ingrid because she's one of my favorites but she's been quiet so far.
>canonical sequel is an AU
moronbros...
Holy shit 3H got a sequel?
Yes, Three Hopes.
That’s not a sequel since it doesn’t continue the events of 3H, instead taking an alternative route. Learn what a what-if is
In that case there are no canonical sequels by definition, since there always are slight differences in each person's playthrough and choices.
That's nice anon, but Hopes is still an au.
That's just your purely subjective qualifier. I can have mine too:
No, Byleth has to pick a specific faction or else it must be an alternate reality character with a different set of values.
Checkmate, atheist.
Yes, this is true. Instead, Shez incercepted the 3 leaders before Byleth, went to the monestary, became a student instead of a professor, and split the timeline drastically. If 3 hopes came out first and then houses was released later with the new Byleth protag intercepting the 3 leaders before Shez, the timeline in that case would of also been considered a drastic change. A change in a timeline has no upper limit to how much it can change and still be considered the "correct" timeline, that's the very nature of the butterfly effect.
But 3 Hopes did not come out first, it was only created because Houses came out and was a success. Shez only exists because a KT dev really wanted to implement their new donut steel despite knowing how it would limit what they could do.
Anon, you repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it more correct.
Byleth and Sothis are still very much around, they just take different action, there's literally nothing contradictory between those games and in a certain route in Houses Sothis is gone and Byleth reverts to normal human so you're not even correct in your strawman.
I'm sorry that you feel that way but you're gonna have to COPE with the fact that the musou storyline is just as valid.
> they just take different action, there's literally nothing contradictory between those games and in a certain route in Houses
In other words, it’s an alternative timeline and doesn’t fit with Three Houses where’s got a very specific role. Yeah, an alternative timeline.
Indeed, still canon.
Canon to the Hopes timeline, not the Houses timeline.
Which all originated from the same timeline, all are canon.
No, because Shez can only live on in one of these timelines and it’s not the 3H one.
No, because Edelgard can only live in one of these timelines and it's one AM, VW or SS.
The same way Hegemon Edelgard is canon to the AM timeline, not the VW timeline.
All of these timelines fit into the 3H universe so it’s cool.
And Hopes and Houses both still fit in the Fodlan universe so it's cool.
Actually the devs said Hopes and only Hopes on multiple occasions is a what-if meaning it’s a separate universe to 3H.
Just like CF and AM are what-ifs of each other.
Anon, you just admitted that its an alternate universe. What causes Byleth to get involved is that they give a shit about their students and Fodlan itself. Hopes Byleth doesn't care about anything besides her daddy. She isn't affiliated with the church nor is she fully merged with Sothis. She has nothing keeping her there besides Jeralt, and her final letter even gives the implication that she doesn't stick around.
Did you even play the game?
Byleth and Jeralt are basically forced to return to Garreg Mach. It's throught that experience that he starts giving a frick. Byleth's default state is merc autismo just like in this game. It's perfectly consistent.
Did you ever play 3 Houses? If you actually played 3 Houses then you would know that the war starts at the end of the academy phase. Byleth is involved because they give a shit about the people around them. Merc austismo isn't really a default rather it's just them without any growth or human interaction because Jeralt is such a shit parent.
Are you autistic?
Byleth starts caring after spending a year around those people.
He doesn't have that time with them in Hopes therefore he acts different.
Do you not understand the difference? I cannot say it in simpler terms.
Are you ESL anon? Or did you just never play Three Houses you don't actually know when the events happen? Because if you did play 3 Houses you wouldn't make such a stupid reply. But since you've obviously haven't let me break down the events for you.
>Byleth meets the three lords and is brought to Garreg Maach with Jeralt
>Jeralt and Byleth are given separate duties from Rhea with Byleth being an instructor
>Byleth chooses a class to teach and starts growing as a person learns how to express emotions
>They keep growing as a person as they speak to more people and they grow an attachment to the world Fodlan.
>Edelgard shoots up the school and declares war.
>Byleth chooses to fight.
Now go back and read my post while keeping in mind the fricking timeline.
I'm aware. Still fail to see a contradiction.
Hopes Byleth is what Byleth would act like if they and Jeralt never ended up in Garreg Mach and never grew as a person to care about their students. In Hopes Byleth gets involved because main Lord and Jeralt forge a business relationship.
Where is the inconsistency?
Read my post and then ask yourself if you have even bothered arguing with me.
Either point the contradiction or don't waste my time, smug c**t.
Okay since you're ESL I stated that the war in 3 Houses has an ending because the goddess actually gives a shit about Fodlan and its inhabitants because she met the three lords but in 3 Copes she doesn't give a shit and could easily just leave when it suits her because she has no reason to care about Fodlan or its people.
Because that one guy is what lead to events radically different from what was laid down in Houses.
So the thousand of years of events that happened before that year of 1180 literally don't matter to you? Okay then lol
>brainlet cannot grasp alternate timelines
House routes are influenced by Shez NOT being alive. Just like Hopes routes are influenced by Blyat NOT meeting house leaders when they fight bandits.
cannot grasp alternate timelines
No you moron, what we have is an AU scenario. The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same thing. Don't overdose on that copium, self inserter.
>she thinks I self insert
The only good thing to come out of Hopes was giving Byleth a voice to kill the self inserting.
>The universe of 3H and the universe of Hopes.
Same universe, different timelines, just like AM, VW, CF and SS are with each other.
What happens in Verdant Wind and what happens in Azure Moon do not effect each other anon. Hence why they are two different AUs.
Acutally that's false. With the power of NG+ I can make my actions in VW carry over to AM.
Not really.
Yes really actually. Frick you.
Yes, you're right. 3 hopes is still canon though. Whichever route you pick in 3 houses changes the timeline, but because you're playing Byleth it leans into a similar direction. However in hopes you play as Shez, a completely different person, which pushes the timeline into a different direction. all routes are alternate timelines, however half of them move to the left, and the other to the right, depending on who's driving the car. All are canon. In fact, if 3 hopes came out first then 3 houses would of been the spin-off.
>In fact, if 3 hopes came out first then 3 houses would of been the spin-off.
But it didn’t because it’s the derivative, the spin-off.
Actually you're right I don't think its ever stated actually, its very possible that he/she survives, doesn't meet the leaders, trains for a year, and then gives up on byleth after hearing he "dies" at garreg mach. I just said he died because its easier to write my post that way and I think that's the main fan theory.
It’s not hard to point out the NTRgay since all his posts sound the same every thread.
post the ashe one
The internet was a mistake.
>cute teen girl seething that her anime boyfriend might be cheating
c-cute...!
WTF is "ships herself"
Why Ashe? He's the most boring character in the entire game outside of maybe Ignatz the canon benchwarmer.
>boring
She's basically the male version of Ingrid without the racism. Kind, cute, nice voice and overall just looking to help others. This makes alot of girls wet when it comes to anime format. His entire character is about being the ideal knight.
He's cute.
Ignatz is the canon stoner of the group. Bro just wants to chill and paint shit man
And that makes him very boring
It's hard to feel bad for him when his tragic backstory is twice removed survivor's guilt and 'dad doesn't want me to go to art school' and you've got literal torture survivors in the next class over.
He’s just your typical everyman. Not everyone needs a tragic backstory. Sylvain, Lorenz, Raphael, Leonie, Caspar, etc don’t have really tragic upbringings either. That said, he did need an extra negative quirk to him to make him a little more interesting. Like wanting to paint Foldan’s version of bigfoot or being a paranoid conspiracy theorist
>Sylvain
He's got one too.
>women just want to frick me because I’m nobility
>my brother doesn’t like me because I have jesus blood in my veins and he doesn’t
Not really tragic…
His brother also left him to die in a well in the middle of Russian winter.
And we have reason to believe there were multiple attempts. Remember, Miklan was disinherited once Sylvain's crest was discovered, but he wasn't actually disowned until three years before the game.
Ignatz, Raphael, and Leonie kill the Golden Deer for me. I don’t hate them but they’re so bland
Leonie is the best character there though and Raphael is wholesome as frick. I agree with Ignatz though, easily the weakest of the group but he's slowly growing on me.
I appreciate that Raphael is the one person in the setting who actually went through a healthy grieving process but since that's all in his backstory he just ends up being "Muh Meat/Muscles".
That twink needs his cheeks obliterated
It's for yumejo mommy self-inserter
I honestly hate Ashe too but he’s definitely a character meant to appeal to female Beckys. He’s like that (obtainable) nice good looking slightly effeminate church boy they know that they want inside them
These people are sad, how do you get so attached to a fiction character. I honestly feel bad for them, something fricked up must have happened to make them that way
You guys know these posts are jokes, right?
There are people close that posting ITT.
People ITT are joking
I also used to think people could not possibly be this moronic, I've since changed my mind, there are really fricking moronic people out there.
You are moronic for thinking they are real
These people make me wish they actually got NTR, three houses spinoff where it's just their waifu getting kissed by the male unit they hate the most
We know you want NTR hence you posting about it, cuck.
Not really, it's just that these guys are really annoying, especially the guy that posts that green b***h from that Alice game that gets spammed here on Ganker
what the frick did i do? I barely posted in this thread
You post in every 3H thread crying about getting NTR.
At first, it was my own way of coping with the whole new protag situation. I was actually seriously upset that Byleth got replaced with some new dude, and even worse that this new guy just got to go on cute picnics with my daughter-wives. But as the days have gone by, the funny meltdowns in these threads both by myself and others have made me calm down a bit and realize that I was seething over nothing. The game is fictional and even has other pairings that other people use that I don't agree with. So if I can ignore those ships in three houses, I can just ignore the ships in this game too. Also, I play as femshez as my canon anyways, and the entire musou is just a what-if. Basically the same as a world where my waifu Constance actually marries that frick Balthus instead of Byleth. If it's not canon to ME, it doesn't matter. Just have fun mindlessly clicking combos on the screen.
With this new revelation, I now just joke about the NTR elements to bylethgays who still don't get it. .
The game itself is very fun. All right, I'm going to take my schizo pills now. Good night.
annoying gay
i love leaf!
healthy mindset for an unhealthy obsession.
They'd just jerk off to that though.
I love Hubert
caspar and raphael sex
Why is she like this?
it was confrimed in El's route in three hopes that she only goes for byleth because of the crest of flames
feels bad man
why;s edelgard so gay
Because bisexuality is just a fancy way of saying gay.
irl 'bisexuality' is really just a fancy way for zoomer snowflakes to justify being straight, all these moronic teenage girls call themselves bisexual while mainly just sucking wiener.
If this homosexual board has taught me anything its that a decent number of men are in fact bisexual and are perfectly willing to frick another dude as long as they are remotely feminine but these are the same guys that would frick a hamplanet just because it has a vegana. Why do you think there’s so many pictures of female characters drawn with giant dick on the internet
>saw previews of this game
>Dimitri has no eyepatch
Yep. That’s a skip from me.
so how does ng+ work? do the levels scale with the missions? Or am i going to be lvl 50 fighting against lvl 1s again
Oh yeah? Name 5 spin-offs that are canon to their game.
Danganronpa Ultra Despair Girls
And it's unironically pretty good too.
I keep dreaming about marrying Mommy Femleth
t. Edelgard
Does this game continue off from the endings of the first game?
Three Houses had those comfy dating sim high school parts - does Three Hopes have something comparable?
who was your waifu, anon?
I don't know if I'd call her my waifu, but I like Edelgard.
oh boy. well look at the op pic and try to figure out what some people don't like about the game.
I've never once heard the monastery accused of being "comfy" and in fact most of the commentary towards it is described as irritating and bloated. So no, the monastery has been replaced with a far smaller base camp. There's still social things to do in it but it's not as spaced out and the time requirement is far less.
As for the story, also no. It's an AU where the house leaders don't meet Byleth and Jeralt in Remire Village. Instead they bump into a mercenary in the forest and bring them back to the monastery while Byleth just continues being the Ashen Demon
Oh, that sounds really interesting actually.
It really isn't
Your enjoyment of this game hinges on how much you care about Fodlan's background lore being expanded and how much you like watching different character supports.
Unless your favorite character is Claude.
>Unless your favorite character is Claude
Ehh why's that? I'm a blondegay anyways.
Lions have it good in this game so you'll be fine.
>I've never once heard the monastery accused of being "comfy" and in fact most of the commentary towards it is described as irritating and bloated.
This and needing to do the entire white clouds portion 3 fricking times with minimal differences in the story pre-timeskip.
>female vocals for GW final boss
why do claude's enemies sing during battle?
Is it weird that Hilda is actually gorilla strong?
It's anime UWU cute short girl has super strength don't know why japs are now obsessed with that
Something something Crest
There is no canon route anyway
Stop replying to the schizo
Byleth's expression here honestly really makes me feel bad. She looks so hurt =( I hope she gets a big hug
Don't worry. There's someone willing to warm her hands.
Why would Byleth care about Shez increasing his/her social rank with Edelgard when Byleth never met Edelgard in the split timeline? Unless that image was drawn by a self-inserting nerd who thinks "they" are Byleth....no-one would do that...right?
I'm not negating your point at all, I'm pretty sure I'm agreeing with you? I'm just mot understanding why some people think that byleth picking a different house to teach leading into alternate timelines is fine but the 3 leaders getting incercepted by Shez and splitting the timeline yet again is considered non-canon. Does Claude express desires to become king of the alliance in 3 houses? I haven't gotten that far but in 3 hopes i know Shez is the one who brings up the idea in the first place, which leads me to believe it's less Byleth preventing Claude from becomming king and more Shez putting the idea in his head.
>Why would Byleth care about Shez increasing his/her social rank with Edelgard when Byleth never met Edelgard in the split timeline? Unless that image was drawn by a self-inserting nerd who thinks "they" are Byleth....no-one would do that...right?
Edelgard is literally right next to Byleth in the pic. She's sad that a game came out with her wife and she can't interact with her in it.
>I'm not negating your point at all, I'm pretty sure I'm agreeing with you?
Then I apologize, I misinterpreted your post. Claude does see it fit to make a king of Fodlan in houses, but instead of himself he chooses Byleth. I think that since king of Fodlan is a constant in Claude's routes, that he also would have wanted to be one in houses had Byleth not taught him to be better. I do agree with you that hopes and houses are both equally canon, just different timelines. I was not the anon arguing that hopes is not canon.
actually this thread was really good for me and made lots of things clear, that back and forth of the anons earlier helped immensely, I initially thought it was a direct sequel but now I know its a alternate universe with the same characters and I'm actually interested in playing it now.
shouldn't that also be good for the romancegays?
>Dimitri's phantom wasn't his Boar phase
ONE JOB
I really thought Boarmitri and Hegemongard were gonna show up there, huge missed opportunity
Well, he never goes full boar, so he never fully has to confront that side of himself.
I like the idea of BOAR but I also recognize that it was never what Dimitri wanted to be. Dimitri desperately wants to be a magnanimous and understanding King and his blood rages is a condition he's deeply ashamed of. He tries to hide it at every opportunity. He apologizes profusely to Byleth in chapter 8 of Houses. He doesn't want to be that. Which always makes it strange when people praise him the most for hitting rock bottom and getting lost in the worst version of himself.
Sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom to start climbing back up.
Because he truly faced his demons when he hit rock bottom, so his arc feels more complete. Hopesmitri still looks as if he could snap at any moment.
He hit rock bottom which gave him the courage to truly start climbing to her top. It's why Hopes Dimitri can never become the Savior King.
He's not unifying fodlan anyway, it's all his personal issues which don't really reflect in what he does for his people.
Dimitri's personal journey is the opposite of Edelgard. He says it multiple times: there are somethings you simply cannot accept but its only after his recovery that he says he'd rather strive for cooperation rather than blunt annihilation. This worldview is the opposite of Edelgard who refuses to tolerate anything that doesn't fit into her new world. In her view you either fall in line or die. That's why during their parley they can admit that they have a fundamental disconnect in the way they think. But Dimitri still tries all the way to the end.
The majority of the time Dimitri doesn't survive hitting rock bottom. And the one time he does he came to the razor's edge of losing everything
And it's only having genuine help from someone who had no obligation to him did he realize that.
That's right. There are no guarantees that you'll make it once you hit rock bottom. Even when he does pull himself up, his demons are still there, but he chooses to face them head-on instead of choosing to try seeking revenge for their sake and live for himself and what he believes in, which only happens in AM.
Monica should have been recruitable, I save that b***h and she doesn't even want to join my house.
post more Edelgard x Femleth fanarts
Why? It’s all garbage.
Pictures that have aged in an interesting way.
is dimitri homo?
For Fraldarius D
Extremely. He just thinks Manleth is ugly (understandable)
Yeah.
Dimitri's sex priorities
>frogleth
>shez if female/felix
>shez if male
>other people
>edelgard
Why is Hubert so horny for the Shez
Because he thinks Shez is horny for him and he's not used to that sort of attention.
Shez a cute
>5 foot 5 inches
Very cute, yes
So I unlocked Rhea in newgame plus but i can't play as her in anything. Why is that?
because you got punk'd
You need to clear your current chapter then talk to the record keeper to play them
i want to frick petra
That's normal Dedue
>I will be raping the Caspar
>Petra can't rape Count Bergliez so she settles for raping his son
What the frick, Petra
Sorry, Petra, but Caspar's busy helping Hilda move some furniture.
Caspar is strong as frick he isn't some kinda twink , she literally physically can't rape caspar only like Hilda, because she has Kingpin strength and Edelgard because she also has Kingpin strength. Literally byleth of those girlsl probably have like Gorilla DNA in them.
Basically, it's multiple timelines all the way down.
not canon
>MIQUELLA IS MINE
any timeline other than CF should get COSMOS DENIAL'd
There is small timeline split on SB depending on whether you killed Byleth or not. It dictates whether Edelgard makes peace with Khalid or not
It's a fake branch, they both lead eventually to getting backstabbed again.
just started, what are the most fun builds?
completely ignore builds and make your females back into fighters and equip fists
Lorenz doing anything
lategame Constance spamming magic without a care of durability
is Ferdinand's whole family just into being dommed?
Shez is canon.
Hopes is canon.
Hilda and Marianne twerking (you can hear the claps)
>I am your man!
I regret not using Ferdie more, Emile was such a monster I didn't really use any other lance users. RIP Billy, his performance was great and the writers really did him justice in this game.
More. Edelgard is made for Femleth to fix.
You know threads are going to get worse now that the EdelFrog troons are coming back.
Anyone else feel like the martial classes blow the magic classes completely out of the water?
The main perk of tome classes are the magic combat arts, which are good. However all magic combat arts can be used by endgame martials but martials have better movesets in general that may even incorporate magic attacks in their normal strikes. This means that even characters like mercedes can make full use of their essence of Light power by going holy knight and gain a powerful moveset that will be hyper-buffed by their own unique magic boosting skills.
Don't get me wrong, I make almost every character master the mage or bishop line of classes but that's because endgame everyone is reliant on elemental effects to some extant and so Fiendish blow and essence of are a mainstay for every martial. How do you make Felix's grounder better? Give him lightning grounder with essence of lightning and fiendish blow, he'll knock enemies flying and deal shittons of damage.
Seriously, the only martials that can't abuse the shit out of this are axe and gauntlet users and they get plenty of elemental combat arts anyway.
I want to experiment with using giving Shamir the Merc Whistle and giving magic classes her freeze ability. Maybe it can work. Maybe.
Magic classes are funny in that they disregard damage for the 50% cooldown to oneshot something faster. If you max out Shez you'll realize you don't want more damage but to be able to use X art faster either being Dark Spikes or Swift Slice, but since Swift Slice is a sword thing Shez doesn't want to be a gremory instead of her Asura or Dancer class, but Lysithea will have that awkward state if you prefer her nuking with shadowblade or faster Dark Spikes and Luna magic
>Mr. Genki Yokota (Nintendo), Supervisor:
>Including everything found in Fire Emblem: Three Houses and Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes, we believe that what the player ultimately considers canon is the canon. We discussed and developed the game between the three companies (Koei Tecmo Games/Intelligent Systems/Nintendo) to play this way.
>Mr. Toshiyuki Kusakihara (Intelligent Systems), Character Designer and Supervisor:
>I think it’s canon too. Originally, in Three Houses, there were three houses and four main storylines that were all a different fate based on your choices. The paths chosen and experienced by each player are all truths and our idea was that there is not one canon. The same goes for this title and our idea was that three completely new potential routes were opened up by having a new main character in the beginning.
>Mr. Yosuke Hayashi (Koei Tecmo Games), Producer:
>I think in terms of nuances, the phrase “different story” would be more accurate than “spin-off”. Even in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, there was no hierarchical relationship between the four storylines. We want to leave it up to the player to judge how he feels about this title.
>“different story”
In other words, a what-if.
Yes, like CF is a different story to AM.
Nope because that is a part of Houses not Hopes.
So AM is a Houses what if for CF.
AM is just as canon as CF is because they are from Houses.
And Hopes is just as canon as Houses
It is but at the same time it’s not because the events of Hopes do not effect Houses.
Indeed, both are canon and non-canon af the same time.
In other words, an au.
Since both games are qeually canon and non-canon at the same time that would make 3 houses an au to 3 hopes as well. At this point it's just which game do you like more. So far I like the nuso game more wo 3 houses is the au, and since what is or isn't canon is up to the individual that means I'm correct.
It also means AM is an AU to CF which is an AU to GW which is an AU to SB which is an AU to SS which is an AU to VW which is an AU to AG.
Again no. See pic related.
Gentlemen the timeline discussion has finally been solved.
Again, no, see what the devs literally said
>we believe that what the player ultimately considers canon is the canon.
>I think it’s canon too.
>The paths chosen and experienced by each player are all truths and our idea was that there is not one canon.
>Even in Fire Emblem: Three Houses, there was no hierarchical relationship between the four storylines. We want to leave it up to the player to judge how he feels about this title.
>Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
Are the 3 routes in 3 houses themselves not different stories?
Nope because the devs never called it that.
What's
then?
Did you read the same article where they called Hopes a what-if game? Come back when you do.
Those are routes in 3 Houses anon, they aren't routes from a game whose events are stated to be events that may or may not happen.
But wouldn't that mean the routes in 3 houses may or may not happen if Shez doesn't meet up with the 3 house leaders before Byleth does?
Nope because there are only two possibilities.
Post yuri porn instead of this trash you pussy
Only since its bump limit
I wanted to see pussy and butthole not this weak sauce shit
Spoken like a true coomer
Bra?
Go frick yourself
Don't think any of the google docs have it listed so I think this is all the mandatory recruits if you only want to play each route once but get all the supports and paralogues. Apologies if I fricked up and missed someone.
>Scarlet Blaze
Mercedes
Lorenz
Lysithea
Balthus
Constance
Hapi
Jeralt
>Azure Gleam
Bernadetta
Dorothea
Petra
Lorenz
Raphael
Ignatz
Marianne
Yuri
Constance
Shamir
Jeralt
>Golden Wildfire
Linhardt
Dorothea
Balthus
Hapi
Constance
Jeralt
WHY ARE FEMLETH BOOBS SOOOOO BIG?
Jeralt presumably has big boobs himself, or at least his mom or grandma did.
Her boobas will bring peace to Fodlan!
–Finally, a message to the fans who have been waiting for this game, please.
Yokoda: This may be a what-if story on the land of Fodlan, but is also a story that may or may not exist. Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
>Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
>Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
>up for everyone playing to decide.
>up for everyone playing to decide.
>up for everyone playing to decide.
>up for everyone playing to decide.
So everyone is correct and no-one is wrong. Argument over then? Hopes is both canon and non-canon.
I feel like this thread needs an introduction to this man and his cat.
There's no one canon route but all the routes are equally as valid. That's the point. And all the gays who say otherwise are just plain wrong.
>but all the routes are equally as valid.
The routes of Hopes? Not valid to 3H.
>The routes of Hopes? Not valid to 3H.
The routes of 3H? Not valid to Hopes.
Anon this is just circular logic at this point, it's a pointless sloop we have to break free from. Take my hand and we can leave together.
Yes, just like AM is not valid to CF.
smash is the official house
The canon route is SS, everything else is obviously alternate universe what if sidestories. Kappa.
Baeleth
We did it Ganker we scared off the NTRfafgs!
Fodlan is non-canon. Its a land of legend just like Fateslandia.
According to the dictionary:
>a question about what could happen or what could have happened in a particular situation if something was or had been different
That makes ALL different routes what-ifs, or did people forget phrases and words have actual meanings?
The final battle against Arval is really fun if you redo it as Byleth. It kinda recontextualizes the whole thing to Self-insert schizos.
>Copesgays got mad shook itt
Lmao
Not even the devs support you
>Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
And then they make refer to the game as a what-if a few times down the road.
Yes? Just like all the routes in both games
>all routes
No, they only referred to Hopes as a what if.
By definition all of them are what ifs.
The dev said it, not me.
And the devs also said
>Which story is the official version is up for everyone playing to decide.
Under the exact same criteria.
Sorry anon, dictionary > your schizocanon.
I think anon doesn't want Hopes to be canon, which is weird since this is a game about someone that can time-travel and multiple routes and endings.
Just self inserters coping
If this is the best 3H has to offer in porn than we’re really fricked.
I'm bored last one
I don't have that much porn of them saved, 99% of my Edeleth art is cute sfw stuff
I can't wait for the next FE so we can move on from Fodlanshit.
>What if Byleth met the students and joined the Blue Lions?
>What if Byleth met the students and joined the Golden Deer?
>What if Byleth met the students and joined the Black Eagles, later siding with Edelgard?
>What if Byleth met the students and joined the Black Eagle, later siding with Rhea?
>What if Shez met the students and joined the Blue Lions?
>What if Shez met the students and joined the Golden Deer?
>What if Shez met the students and joined the Black Eagles?
Anyone else still love Sylvain's paralogue where he ensures peace with the Sreng by promising to pound the Commander's bussy if he brought wine instead of steel?
>Lysithea
>missionary
>starfishes during sex and prefers to cuddle since she so tight it hurts
>Leonie
>standing doggie style
>likes casual fricking when drunk and enjoys anal, like to joke around
>Hilda
>squatting cowgirl
>fricks like a tiger, won’t stop until you make her cum, really into dirty talk
>Marianne
>missionary
>sweet and gentle for the purpose of procreation, very emotional for her
>Annette
>lateral leglock sitting
>sings like a little bird when climaxing, loves running her finger through hair and kissing
>Mercedes
>reverse missionary
>gentle femdom for the purpose of procreation, loves to smother
>Ingrid
>missionary
>doesn’t even enjoy sex since she finds it embarrassing, humiliating, and demeaning
>Petra
>reverse squatting cowgirl
>fricks like a tiger for the purpose of procreation, quietly concentrates on the job
>Dorothea
>doggie style
>is a pro and an expert faker, moans like a gregorian choir and sings at the top of her lungs
>Bernadette
>lateral recumbent leg lift
>in a pure state of absolute ecstasy, slightly masochistic and kinky, likes being demeaned
>Edelgard
>missionary leg lift
>expects a lot of foreplay and for everything to be perfectly romantic, always leaves disappointed
>Constance
>cowgirl double semi-fouler position
>talks a big game but is generally clumsy and awkward, tries to keep up the act throughout
>Hapi
>reverse cowgirl
>just like to have fun and enjoys sex, like to be playful and tease
>Shamir
>sitting position while partner stands
>seductive yet cold, quiet yet intense, wants to be fricked hard and fast, leaves afterwards
>Catharine
>sitting on top of partner sitting
>rough, sloppy, pelvis breaking, drunken sex, yell and whoops during, slaps your ass afterwards
>Flayn
>leglocked with partner standing
>plays innocent at first, squeaks likes crazy, immediately wants more afterwards
>Frog
>sitting cowgirl
>quiet and awkward, french kisses with her eyes open, gets up and goes back to work immediately afterwards