So it really is a matter of the Male character being judged by their merits and the female by her looks? I'm not surprised but it's disappointing all the same, isn't it?
Its hard to say with Dimitri because his kind-hearted nature and somewhat optimistic outlook for reconciliation is something that female lords are usually criticized for.
I don't think female Dimitri as a concept is a bad idea I just don't have faith in the writer's to actually stick with the same characterisation and moments they give male Dimitri. More likely they'll do what the did for Edelgard and just play his tard strength for laughs and a tone shifter from more serious moments.
With a female Dimitri all of his emotional failings would be blamed on her just being a woman rather than the trauma attached to it. Especially on this board. Dimitri, for better or worse, wears his emotions on his sleeve. He really wants to be sincere but he also has a lot of rage that slips out. There's almost never a time where he has an ulterior motive and a few secrets he does keep is a result of him trying to take care of literally everything by himself so that his friends doesn't suffer. If he had breasts then it would be so easy for memesters to handwave it all as her just being a hysterical woman that spends the entire game on her period. Hell Dimitri has a dick now and it's hard to have a conversation about his character without that one guy just repeating schizo ad nauseam
>Hell Dimitri has a dick now and it's hard to have a conversation about his character without that one guy just repeating schizo ad nauseam
Pretty much, it doesn't help that Edelgard went through a similarly traumatic event but came out of it cold and with no obvious trauma beyond her fear of rats. Her being a control freak is never treated as part of her PTSD by the game even though its pretty apparent that it is.
Beyond the obvious fact that people deal with trauma differently the event that directly impacted Edelgard has a very obvious people to blame and she still blamed the wrong fricking people. Dimitri's is more complex because he doesn't know who did it and he carries the guilt of the subsequent genocide his own people carried out since he couldn't prove Duscur's innocence. People like to conveniently forget that its not just his father and Glenn that he carries guilt over, its all the innocent people killed by his country in the name of justice.
>it doesn't help that Edelgard went through a similarly traumatic event but came out of it cold and with no obvious trauma beyond her fear of rats. Her being a control freak is never treated as part of her PTSD by the game even though its pretty apparent that it is.
It was pretty refreshing for SB to show off her bone deep trust issues, that her and Hubert's worst fears (mostly) come to pass in the spare Byleth route to justify it was really funny
Edelgard's issues are very much an Edelgard problem that she drags the rest of the world into. But ironically her and Hubert's attitudes lead to them being betrayed more.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except the only time they do get betrayed was not their fault, and their paranoia over the possibility lets them frick up Claude/prepares them to apprehend Shez
>We had to wait for a musou spin off to get characterisation that should have been in the main game
2 years ago
Anonymous
Houses was a rushed, unfinished mess that straight out copy pasted one of it's routes, what a surprise
2 years ago
Anonymous
They straight up admitted to softening up Edelgard in 3 Houses. This is more of a case of them changing their mind.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was Claude
2 years ago
Anonymous
No that was Edelgard, she was originally meant to be more antagonistic but they decided against it. I guess they thought that since Byleth is no longer in the picture and she didn't spend a year at Garreg Maach, she now trusts people even less than she did in Houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
She's more trusting if anything since she's willing to let a probable molespy nearby, tells her allies everything about their enemies, shares her pain with Bernie, and just admits to Claude straight out what her goals are while he plays coy and keeps his cards close to his chest
2 years ago
Anonymous
But then she still betrays the church even after they helped her. Shez is dumb, and now the movement are no longer her allies. With Claude I feel like she just didn't have in her to bullshit anymore
2 years ago
Anonymous
She doesn't like the church, and thinks getting rid of Rhea will better Fodlan (which Rhea assuming she survives to the end of a route in Houses, agrees with and fricks off) which has nothing to do with trust, Shez doesn't give a shit about the morality of invading because they're a mercenary, and I'm not sure what movement you're even talking about there
As for Claude she's just laying things out so that he stops bullshitting too and they can finally clear out if their ambitions can't align and they have to get rid of each other, or not
I actually think it's a bigger problem than that. The people who laugh at Dimitri's mask off moment can only do so because they have God's eye. LOL Dimitri was wrong about who committed the tragedy. He must be moronic. As if the actual truth isn't the most insane statement ever uttered. That a bunch of shapeshifting immortal mole people body snatched the court mage and convinced a bunch of Nobles to get his family butchered. That would be like looking at the JFK assassination and laughing at everyone thinking it was some sniper instead of realizing the truth that it was fricking aliens. But you do bring up a good point in how the central fixtures in both their traumas are blamed on the wrong person. It's just that Dimitri puts that blame on one specific person. While Edelgard's rationale for her pain is "we live in a society."
>The people who laugh at Dimitri's mask off moment can only do so because they have God's eye. LOL Dimitri was wrong about who committed the tragedy. He must be moronic. As if the actual truth isn't the most insane statement ever uttered.
Exactly this, everytime we try to argue that Dimitri's anger towards Edelgard is justified with the knowledge available to him their instant rebuttal is "Slithers did it he's a moron". No amount of research is going to reveal the existence of an underground group of technologically advanced shapeshifters that are actually Fodlan's first humans are still around, the only reason Edelgard is able to find Shambala is because they revealed their very existence to her. They've gone undetected for over 1000 years what hope does some school kid have of discovering them on his own.
Hopes proved that if Dimitri is aware of their existence he will direct his hatred towards the right people and even after Cornelia taunts him saying Edelgard was responsible for Anselma's death he just asks her outright and immediately accepts that Slithers are probably full of shit and that possible conflict dies instantly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well even then if you throw out his accusation concerning the tragedy it's not like he suddenly doesn't have a reason to be angry. She still invaded his country. He was still framed for murder. And that's not even getting into the things he doesn't know about like how she hired Kostas to kill him. Or anything involving the Flame Emperor. Those things still happened and neither one had any connection to the tragedy. So it's not like if Dimitri suddenly opened his eyes that he'd see he didn't have anything to be angry at Edelgard about. It's just be taking one thing off the pile
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Well even then if you throw out his accusation concerning the tragedy it's not like he suddenly doesn't have a reason to be angry.
Sadly the game likes to be ambiguous on what direct orders Edelgard gives so people take as that freedom to say he's unjustified in his anger because Edelgard didn't carry out the exact action.
It probably doesn't help that Edelgard treats people as idiots for not having knowledge of things that they wouldn't have a means of knowing. But then will also withhold information. The cards are all in her hands and she guards them jealously. But that's not the case in Hopes, Dimitri has all of the knowledge he needs and so can act accordingly. Claude doesn't and is now directionless, and Edelgard has given up any pretense of the war being for the good of Fodlan.
>It probably doesn't help that Edelgard treats people as idiots for not having knowledge of things that they wouldn't have a means of knowing.
That one really annoyed me, her arrogance is frustrating to listen to especially when this super secret knowledge isn't something she could have found on her own. Thing is it could have worked if she was actually right or they had a moment where she learns the truth but they didn't and the CF treats her conspiracies as truth so she instead comes off as an ignorant moron while chastising others for their "ignorance".
2 years ago
Anonymous
Her arrogance is a part of her trying to keep control. According to the devs 3 Houses was about perspectives and from her fricked up perspective she's right, that's why CF treats her conspiracies as truth and doesn't call out her ignorance. Because from Edelgard's own perspective she's the most knowledgeable person in the room. The reason why VW, SS, and AM have very similar perspectives is because they are closer to the truth.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The reason why VW, SS, and AM have very similar perspectives is because they are closer to the truth
I have seen it all lmao. This game has 3 copy/paste routes because they are “closer to the truth” my god
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well think about it, those three routes end up confirming information that you learn in the other, because the information you are learning is objectively true.
But in the case of CF the information is false which is why the other 3 routes debunk most of the information you learn in CF. Could they have gone about it a better way to showcase rather than just copy pasting the routes, yes, but it's Kusakihara and KT so the laziness is to be expected.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It probably doesn't help that Edelgard treats people as idiots for not having knowledge of things that they wouldn't have a means of knowing. But then will also withhold information. The cards are all in her hands and she guards them jealously. But that's not the case in Hopes, Dimitri has all of the knowledge he needs and so can act accordingly. Claude doesn't and is now directionless, and Edelgard has given up any pretense of the war being for the good of Fodlan.
>That a bunch of shapeshifting immortal mole people body snatched the court mage and convinced a bunch of Nobles to get his family butchered.
Wow, almost like the shapeshifting immortal dragon people who secretly run the continent's major religion, designed the borders of the three nations to "coincidentally" meet at garreg mach, propagated a religion based on lies that falsifies the history of the continent, and masqueraded as a series of successive archbishops over a thousand years while actually being a singular lizardwoman pulling the strings the entire time. In fact, they went and actually founded the Adrestian empire, making all subsequent conflicts on the continent indirectly stemming from their actions!
But people continue to act like Claude and Edelgard are moronic or schizos for wanting to kill Rhea despite the fact she's Thales with a pussy. The pure copium narrative on Ganker since 3 Hopes has been "CLAUDE IS SIMPLY WRONG WTF THEY RUINED HIS CHARACTER WHY DOESN'T HE LOVE RHEA????" when his actions are completely reasonable and even in VW he wasn't sure whether keeping Rhea alive was a good idea.
Dimitri isn't like female lords he's more like Roy and Seliph, if things can be ended peacefully then okay, but if they can't then he won't hesitate. Rather than optimistic Dimitri is more of a realist, he understands what the commoners' worries and issues. He's not as pessimistic as Claude and Edelgard but as Hopes as shown Claude and Edelgard don't understand the world around them.
He doesn't have anything in common with the female lords. As he lacks their blindness and their optimism.
Are Rheacucktholictrannies still on the "Rhea did nothing wrong" cope? The game's narration itself confirms the crest system is owed to Rhea's little cult, there is no doubt about it. There are countless examples that the game provides to show this happen but Rheatards will try to excuse every single one of them. So they end in a the predicament of trying to debunk the game even though the game first shows and then says that Rhea's church is bad.
>chapter narration
churchgays literally don't care about this because they say it is written by Edelgard or Hubert, they are as dogmatic and delusional as you would expect from the religious cultists they are
Crests are the mutilated surgically implanted organs of her fellow Nabateans. Rhea personally fought against the Ten Elites, who were the original bearers of the Crests and the people who helped the Agarthans slaughter her species. She has absolutely no reason to support the Crest system, and if she is doing it, she's doing it for selfless reasons because she probably feels sick to her stomach whenever she even sees a Crest.
>chapter narration
churchgays literally don't care about this because they say it is written by Edelgard or Hubert, they are as dogmatic and delusional as you would expect from the religious cultists they are
>2 ip's >4 posts >one agreeing with the edeltard is a bit over one minute after the first
Curious.
Edelgard's accusation is that the church created the Crest system. The church's actual teachings are that the Crests were gifted under the principle of "with great power, there must also be great responsibility." Humans creating the modern Crest/nobility system is a sin that made the goddess turn her back on Fodlan in despair (Book of Seiros Volume II).
>church created the Crest system
They did, they dictate that nobles with crests should lead and own crest weapons as symbols of their power
They created the hierarchy to control the populace
>The church's actual teachings are that the Crests were gifted under the principle of "with great power, there must also be great responsibility."
Indeed, the crest owners control the populace and have responsibility to lead the cattle
>They did, they dictate that nobles with crests should lead and own crest weapons as symbols of their power >They created the hierarchy to control the populace
They Conquest create it, it was Nemesis who did that 1000 years ago and the nobles who kept it going because it kept them in power.
>Indeed, the crest owners control the populace and have responsibility to lead the cattle
The church doctrine specifically said that a Crest doesn't give them a right to control. Heck in the case of Leicester whose nobles actually do their jobs right and The Faerghus whose corrupt nobles are all crestlets, it's only the Empire that has this problem.
>Heck in the case of Leicester whose nobles actually do their jobs right
is this why they've made Leonie into a debt slave just for a recomendation? The anon you're arguing with is Nick, so all his argumnets are either schizo rambling, disingenuous bait or outright lies. But let's not pretend that lecester alliance is a great place for a peasant to be
The church's teachings only said that the goddess picked people to wield a power to fend off evil. It's written that having a Crest doesn't make you inherently superior to people without Crests. The nobility system was made by Nemesis and the Ten Elites, Rhea just tried to seek a solution other than killing the children of the Ten Elites, who didn't know how their parents got their powers.
Also, you're posting CF ending text, where the world is getting subjected to Adrestia's propaganda department.
Rhea meant well, but fricked up since her system only reinforced crest caste status. It's in line with everything else in 3H being misguided good intentions.
>her system only reinforced crest caste status.
it wasn't her system. she had nothing to with the crests. And even if she didn't pretend that crests were a gift of the goddess, crest chads would still come up on top, because people with superpowers always do
You really need to learn the difference between correlation and causation. Rhea didn't give Wilhelm her crest for the purpose of establishing mobility. She gave him her crest so he could help her fight Nemesis. Who butchered her family. If you want to argue that she still on the hook for nobility even though that was an unintended byproduct of her recruiting a powerful ally then fine. But make sure you ride that high horse all the way to Edelgard's glass house to visit her before you do.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wilhelm conquered the entire continent and established an empire, and he as emperor had the special snowflake crest of seiros that would forever be passed down to his children. Even without the moronic church lies that crests are a divine blessing, Rhea's actions ensured a crest-based social hierarchy by personally empowering the fricking emperor, helping him wage war and conquer everyone else, and then entrenching a crest-holding Royal family who she told everyone had Seiros' personal blessing as a chink heavenly mandate
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wilhelm only served as Emperor a few years after the War of Heroes ended before passing the title to his son Lyacon I who then died not long after. By the point both Wilhelm and "Seiros" disappeared off the map and the Adrestians just did whatever they wanted. Once the war was over Rhea/Seiros went entirely laissez-faire. Even if she didn't care for the nobility and would rather they didn't, she didn't force people to do anything. There's never a moment in Foldan's history where the Central Church kicked down the doors of any government and said they were doing this or they were not doing that. The closest we ever get is the handling of Christophe Gaspard which was mainly done to put down the political unrest from the death of the king. But even then the Central Church didn't install a new leader, they let the kingdom handle it internally.
That's the weird thing about this argument. Nobody can ever decide how much they actually wanted the Archbishop to control the continent. One minute Rhea is a tyrannical dictator who's tendrils has wrapped around the minds of everybody in the country and she has total Shogun authority over every decision each faction makes. And then the next minute she's too hands off and allow the continent to do whatever it wanted like a negligent parent. And nobody can ever agree which one actually applies to her but you all seem to agree that it's her fault either way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>One the war was over Rhea went laissez-faire
literally a lie and contradicted directly by developer word of god
>As the library underground points out, the speed of civilization advancement was way too fast and so they wanted to suppress that, eh. There are also reasons for that but… that will remain a secret, haha.
I await the next reptoid illuminati talking point
2 years ago
Anonymous
No shit. Did you forget the fact that Rhea lived through not 1 but 2 genocides both borne from human technology? What are you arguing?
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you actively suppress human innovation and ban autopsies and ban telescopes because "the mysteries of the heavens are the goddess's alone" and dumb shit while hoarding knowledge for yourself, you can't pretend to be laissez-faire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ban
And lifted by the time the game starts. >hoarding knowledge for yourself
Proof?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you gonna ignore the fact that the Silters literally kill people and then wear their corpses as skins? Because that was the source of said knowledge.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That whole story comes from the fact that the Archbishop doesn't want to put the sins of the fathers on their children. Because the actual explanation would have been
> your ancestors were violent murderers who butchered my family not once but twice. You can't be trusted with things that explode all at once so now I got to space this shit out so you don't have a nice day and everything around you. You're still well ahead of your neighbor so you don't have to worry about losing any War to any foreign power. But don't expect me to give you AR-15s until you figure out how to exist without murdering everything
2 years ago
Anonymous
"You're an insane shape shifting dragon actively propagating a narcissistic religion based on lies literally named after yourself, we're going to kill you and turn you into a pair of boots because that's what psycho dragons running a blood cult illuminati deserve"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>literally a lie and contradicted directly by developer word of god
There's nothing that disagrees with anon notion. Rhea undoes the Slither influence and then goes radio silence when those same technologies reappear because the humans actually developed them in their own this time she does nothing to stop them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Same word of god that says Rhea never intended to rule humanity?
>That said, Seiros and co. meddled with history not in order to rule over humans, but to quell the flames of war and chaos as much as possible, and to also keep a steady balance about humanity.
We already know why she supressed humanity’s technological advancement, the Slithers’ technology led to her people being butchered and turned into weapons, as well as the creation of nukes. Given the books on supressed technology were left in Abyss rather than the actual church means those bans were since lifted, and things like the Fire Orbs have actual telescopes if you zoom into them, and explosives are also shown to exist in the form of gambits.
Now, can you give us information we didnt already know? Literally all you said is things people who like Rhea already know and understand/accept due to her own circumstances. Give new information or we will just go in circles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
IN THAT SAME PARAGRAPH, IT ADMITS SHE'S RULING ABOVE HUMANITY LMAO.
>Q: Why did Seiros (Rhea) leave the Ten Elites and Nemesis as heroes in history? >Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
cope, seethe, and dilate more you dragon wienersucking homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>moron-kun doesnt know the difference between above and over
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There's never a moment in Fodlan's history where the central church kicked down the doors of any government and said this is how we're doing this
If you ignore the part where Seiros literally helped wage a war of violent conquest and forcibly unified the entire fricking continent under one government, maybe. Lmao.
"The church never used force, except when she did, but it was okay because it was a good thing when she tries to wage aggressive wars to unify an empire, but when other people wage war to unify the continent it's bad, even if they're literally from the same fricking country and using the same crest she gave them to do so"
it's so pathetic. Edelgard is literally just Wilhelm 2.0 and Rhea's seething at her actions is a reflection of her own moronation, nothing she's doing isn't something Rhea didn't personally endorse and support in the past. She literally invented adrestian expansionism, dumb b***h should have stayed living off grid innawoods like her siblings.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The central church literally didn't exist back then Nick, and Nemesis was marching to the Sothern continent to take it over. Even if Seiros did nothing Nemesis would have still attacked.
2 years ago
Anonymous
who the frick is nick, is this some discord homosexualry or the name for the schizo voices you hear in your head?
The central church didn't exist yet but SAINT SEIROS still supported Wilhelm and enabled the adrestian conquest of Fodlan. Pretending that she had no part in it is ridiculous
2 years ago
Anonymous
You tell me Nick, your bs is way too obvious at this point.
Nemesis was still going to conquer the Southern contintinent that's why it had to band together, even if Rhea wasn't there they likely still would have done so. The Empire itself wasn't corrupted when Rhea still had a say in its government but when she fricked off overtime it became corrupt, which is why it split apart again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't know who Nick is, I beat Hopes a few days ago and have finally stopped avoiding everything to do with the game to avoid spoilers. Not everyone who thinks Rhea is moronic is some schizo tulpa you've conjured up in your head. I've thought Rhea was a crazy b***h ever since I played Silver Snow and realized that even if Jeralt had lived through Kronya's assassination he'd still end up dead when transformed into a White Beast by Rhea's blood pact.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The berserk Crest only happened because Edelgard tortured her for 5 years. This has never happened in her 1,000 year history. That's on your Emperor.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Your emperor
I'm not defending Edelgard in the slightest and if you took my posts that way you completely missed the point, what Edelgard does is bad FOR THE SAME REASONS WHAT RHEA DID WAS BAD. Rhea literally tries to high-road people and say "Only I'M allowed to wage a war against the entire continent and unify it under the Adrestian flag with an emperor bearing the crest of seiros, you're not allowed to that.... because I said so!!!"
Edelgard and Rhea both belong absolutely nowhere near a position of authority
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anon are you conviently forgetting the fact that Nemesis was attacking?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nemesis attacks >Conquer the entire continent in self defense
lol literally the same excuse Israel uses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nemesis was attacking >- Imperial Year 32: The War of Heroes -
Wilhelm Paul Hresvelg, the inaugural Adrestian Emperor, raised an
army in pursuit of the unification of Fódlan. With his might, he hunted
and destroyed any house's territory that dared to seek more power.
Bro, even the church agrees Wilhelm started it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Really? Because the game says Nemesis did what he did under the pretense of liberating Fodlan
pre·tense
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noun
1.
an attempt to make something that is not the case appear true.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think that people do meme so hard that they forget they Nemesis was a conqueror.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Isn't the first thing he does when he wakes up is start fricking everything up and beelining for Rhea?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They also did not read the abyss Library which is really funny considering they also put the most stock and the books that the church bans. The 10 Elites were shocked that Seiros spared their children. They had no idea why Seiros was hunting them with the fury she was hunting them with. I don't think the 10 Elites knew what they were signing on for when Nemesis recruited them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was a very lax conquerer if he just let Adrestia chill around unmolested with no army for 32 years
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
He conquered the nabataens who currently governed humanity with their dragon powers, that's not a bad thing from the perspective of humanity and is why his epithet is "King of Liberation"
The fact he went full monhun literally beating dragons to death with the bones of their dead relatives is irrelevant to the human perspective
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The fact he went full monhun literally beating dragons to death with the bones of their dead relatives is irrelevant to the human perspective
Claude said that was fricked up
2 years ago
Anonymous
Khalid thinks it's fricked up because he wanted to do that and is mad somebody else had the idea first
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pretense was a Threehouse-ism not present in nip
2 years ago
Anonymous
Get everyone on the same page and rally everyone to face up against Nemesis or do you think that that Nemesis who took over the rest of the continent was satisfied with just that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you agree crimson flower Edelgard is completely justified in unifying the continent by force and "getting everyone on the same page" before taking on the slitherers in the epilogue?
The reason Rhea and Edelgard hate each other so much is because they're the same fricking person lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
You use the same language as him so you make it a bit too obvious and give yourself away. Heck you even get the same shit wrong as him... >played Silver Snow and realized that even if Jeralt had lived through Kronya's assassination he'd still end up dead when transformed into a White Beast by Rhea's blood pact
Rhea only ends up that way due to her taking literal nukes to the face after being tortured for 5 years. It wasn't anything natural.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Rhea only ends up that way due to her taking literal nukes to the face after being tortured for 5 years. It wasn't anything natural.
So like most things in the game it is El's or the empire's fault?
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's the blood and a fragment of her creststone in them that caused them to turn when she went haywire.
She's rather composed in Three Hopes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay then I have a question. Point out one single time since the foundation of the Adrestian Empire that Fodlan has ever expanded her borders. Because even with Faerghus's fury at Sreng they never really push into their lands. Even though House Goneril exists to butcher Almyran, Fodlan's Locket has never moved. Hell the only instance of Fodlan acquiring new land comes from the Empire. Long after Rhea relinquished control of it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Southern Sreng was taken into Faerghus during Lambert's time as king, so not that long before the events of the series.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Fair enough I'll give you that. But that still means that the kingdom was operating independently and that was King Lambert's decision, not the church's. Unless the argument shifts to every time a human being fights a war of expansion it's the result of some Illuminati playing 5D chess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Brigid is a vassal state of the empire with a captive princess held hostage
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hell the only instance of Fodlan acquiring new land comes from the Empire. Long after Rhea relinquished control of it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You mean the empire that Rhea literally founded? Yes. What a surprise that when you personally lead a war of conquest uniting the entire continent that the descendants of those people would imitate their founders.
They're literally just following Rhea and Wilhelm's example
2 years ago
Anonymous
Rhea didn't invent wars of conquest you twit. What the actual frick are you arguing? What's your thesis?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Different guy, but the Empire conquering Brigid doesn't really have anything to do with Rhea and Wilhelm's conqueror spirit and shit, it's just payback for the frickers invading them, and probably to use Brigid as a staging ground again to invade Dagda too in the future, at least until Edelgard got the throne and wanted to make peace with them through working with Petra instead
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Empire, by the time of this invasion, is the place in Fodlan with the least influence from the Central Church. What a coincidence that most of the more fricked up shit comes from the Empire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You really are a nitwit aren't you? People are responsible for their own decisions. Rhea stop involving herself in politics hundreds of years ago ergo any and all of their decisions are specifically on them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
People have this weird idea about the medieval era where everything was super peaceful and progressive, and that literally every single bad thing in Fodlan are things that never happened in real life, so it is all Rhea’s fault.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A lot of people don't know jack shit about Medival society and how it was built, how it functions, or its history. They just choose to blame the church because it's easier to blame Rhea.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>people are responsible for their own decisions
I agree, Rhea is absolutely responsible for her decisions to propagate a false religion based on lies, unify the continent and establish a royal family bearing her personal crest, and then LARP as a series of successive archbishops with her blood-bonded inner circle operating out of garreg mach.
Meanwhile her much more reasonable brothers are responsible for dozing in the sun like a cat and eating deer while not caring about the war or her church at all. I wonder which one is the good guy?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I agree, Rhea is absolutely responsible for her decisions to propagate a false religion
Fun fact, Sothis worship predates the Seiros religion >unify the continent and establish a royal family bearing her personal crest
As apposed to the Elites doing it? >and then LARP as a series of successive archbishops with her blood-bonded inner circle operating out of garreg mach.
To keep an eye on the contitent. You seem to forget the continent is rather stable with only the Slithers actually fricking things up. >Meanwhile her much more reasonable brothers are responsible for dozing in the sun like a cat and eating deer while not caring about the war or her church at all. I wonder which one is the good guy?
okay you're just shitposting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>to keep an eye on the continent
"You don't understand, she HAD to run a israeli reptilian illuminati blood cult and actively meddle with international relations, borders, push a fake religion that's named after and venerates her, and lie to everyone about where crests and relics come from! She was just keeping an eye on things!"
shoo shoo golem, lizards get the rope, Khalid will skin you and turn you into a pair of boots to gift his 3000 wives inshallah
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Khalid will skin you and turn you into a pair of boots to gift his 3000 wives inshallah >tfw she turned back into a human and then got disintegrated just so I couldn't make designer bags with her leathery skin
It hurts
2 years ago
Anonymous
INSHA'ALLAH, BROTHER
KHALID SHEIKH MUHAMMAD VON RIEGAN, SULTAN OF ALMYRA, EMPEROR OF FODLAN, SWORD OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) WILL PURGE THE WORLD OF INFIDELS AND IDOLATORS
2 years ago
Anonymous
The handling of Christophe is actually the only really fricked up thing the Church has done that I can think of.
>Edelgard's accusation is that the church created the Crest system.
Because they DID you fricking Black person. If you literally teach people through your religion that those with crests are DIVINELY BLESSED UBERMENSCH with a literal god-gifted ability commoners can never attain, you can't act surprised when that results in social hierarchy.
The Nabataens were literally in the same position as Crest holders were before the world got nuked, Rhea has absolutely no way of pretending she didn't know the crest system would result from her lies about where they come from. In fact, a thousand years ago she went out of her way to give HER crest to a literal emperor and allow him to unify the continent with its power.
How can you look at Rhea literally being a former dragon-governor of Nabatean civilization who later empowers an emperor to conquer the entire continent and say "ohhhh she didn't mean for crests to be a higher social class she dindu nuffin" you stupid frick
>If you literally teach people through your religion that those with crests are DIVINELY BLESSED UBERMENSCH with a literal god-gifted ability commoners can never attain, you can't act surprised when that results in social hierarchy.
And you think this wouldn't happen if the church didn't exist?
You're fricking moronic if you think the apes with super human abilities wouldn't naturally rise to the top of the social order if the Church didn't go around teaching everyone that they're special
If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently. Especially since most people have minor crests that don't provide very much benefit. This argument has always been dumb since MAGIC exists in 3 Houses and the entire world isn't a magocracy, there's still tons of bureaucrats and paper pushers and academics, look at Linhardt and his father, their crest is utterly worthless in terms of gorilla homie "might makes right"
Again, you're huffing copium and sidestepping the question: "WELL SHE LIED AND MADE THE CREST SYSTEM BUT IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAYS!" is full on damage control. What about literally giving her blood to the founder of the adrestian empire and personally establishing a crest-based imperial dominion over the continent lmao
>If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children they would be reasonable
They wouldn't since the pros of using them outweigh the cons. Crests can give people a huge boost in physical or magical abilities.
>there's still tons of bureaucrats and paper pushers and academics, look at Linhardt and his father, their crest is utterly worthless in terms of gorilla homie "might makes right"
You can be a noble without a crest. The crest gives you a boost in physical or magical abilities hence why they are prized by nobles.
Also, Linhardt's crest isn't useless. It boosts Might stats which can be translated to lore perspective as being useful for combat.
>WELL SHE LIED AND MADE THE CREST SYSTEM
The crests were created by Nemesis and his ten elites. Rhea just lied about their creations.
>Muh crest system
Oh my lord. There is no crest system. You can be a noble without a crest. They are prized by everyone because they gave you a huge boost. Even the minor ones.
Just the play the game you fricking moron and think instead of reading another post from Tumblr.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There is no crest system
lol
okay bro, why does Dimitri go out of his way to make sure he tries to reform the oppressive crest system in the endings of Azure Moon if the crest system doesn't exist?
Are you going to literally ignore the chapter narration too now? This is just sad.
Are Rheacucktholictrannies still on the "Rhea did nothing wrong" cope? The game's narration itself confirms the crest system is owed to Rhea's little cult, there is no doubt about it. There are countless examples that the game provides to show this happen but Rheatards will try to excuse every single one of them. So they end in a the predicament of trying to debunk the game even though the game first shows and then says that Rhea's church is bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because he took over the Empire's territory where crest abuse is rampant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
please remind me who founded the adrestian empire and who have them their crest?
concession accepted lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
crest abuse is not the same as crest system. It's just a form of power abuse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hell The Four Apostles whole thing was them being the exceptions. Learning the truth of their Crests lead them to ally with the Saints, and Aubin hated himself for drinking innocent dragons blood he chose to live in Abyss for 1000 years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Where did that come from?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Aubin hated himself for drinking innocent dragons blood
Aubin was a scalie, otherwise his blood wouldn't have done the exact same thing Rhea's and the other murdered dragons blood did
2 years ago
Anonymous
Have any of the Elites had someone drink their blood in the same way? It's entirely possible that crests can be passed from crested humans like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just drink blood there is no way it just passes like that
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do we know anyone who tried it?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes some Anon drinked his waifus blood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well speaking of FE4. That's atleast how the 12 crusaders got their superpl powers. So there is some precedent in the series for drinking dragon blood.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Aubin is a human. All four Apostles were human.
We don’t know what they have going on, but Aubin only lived for a long time and was an old man when Yuris mother saved him, and he used a “mysterious cure” to heal Yuri before he dies. That means two things:
1. The Apostles Chevalier and Aubin kept dragon blood on them.
Or
2. 1st Gen Crestbearers can pass on 1st Gen Crests to others.
The process has a 50/50 chance of working as Chevaliers blood rituals show. Half the people disappeared. The other half were 1st Gen creastbearers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only the Saints were dragons, and atone of Comely Saints revealed there was a sixth Saint in Luca. Who is likely dead as he’s one of the names Golems in Crimson Flower like Wilhelm or Chevalier.
>If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently.
Black person, is this your first time on planet earth? Humans do terrible things to each other for a better chance in life all the time
>magic
Hanneman/Alois support directly states having a crest makes you better at magic on average. >m-minor crests dont matter!
They still allow people to use relics with relative safety and Dimitri is stronger than a gorilla. >if people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently.
Lol
The weird thing is that in chapter 7 Monastery dialogue Hilda remarks that it's weird for Monica to be acting like her normal self considering the trauma she's been through. Which really should have been our first warning that Monica has always been like this
Hilda doesn't know anything about Monica though, she'd have gotten even more sus for no reason had real Monica been the one that was truly rescued, and she honed in on Edelgard's clam like is her wont
>Which really should have been our first warning that Monica has always been like this
We had no reason to think Monica was Edelsexual. We just saw it as Kronya not even trying to act like Monica.
Is it just me or is the entire Swordmaster-Mortal Savant Line kinda shit unless the AI is using it?
Some class actions just don't seem to combo with their own movesets.
It's just you bro. The Mortal Savant line has a pretty sick launch combo, do YYYYX, and then use the fast charge X to catch them with the multiple slashes while they're airborne. Start your combo with windsweep/firesweep to ensure commanders' guards are broken.
And if that's still not enough, the animations of YYYYX are relatively quick, so you can dodge out whenever.
It feels like Epimenides doesn't realize how fricking evil his brethren have become or is completely blind to their faults.
He actually covers nemesis' retreat while the rest would never do so and all act like backstabbing buttholes hating their own allies.
Seriously love Three Hopes but I really hate that these new Muso have pretty much no endgame content compared to the previous games. I remember Hyrule Warriors 1 had some sort of retro maps you could explore after finishing the game, Fire Emblem Warriors 1 also had some sort of similar stuff with old battles or something like that, and it was really cool. Idk it probably took them more time to develop the 3 campaign for each lords in Three Hopes, but just ramping up the difficulty level at the record keeper isn't really a good motivation for me to want to grind all the skills or even try the new characters.
Do you think Rhea needs to die as a dragon to make a sweet weapon out of her corpse, or can we rip out her (human shaped) femur and make a nice knife out of it?
Is the guard any good in this game? I know I can even perfect guard and that some skills (that actually look really good) are tied to this mechanic, but who fricking use the guard instead of simply dodging?
>the church's supposed anti-foreign relations policy isn't mentioned or even hinted to be a possible problem in the Sreng paralogue
wow it's almost like it doesn't exist
Garreg Mach has a 15 ft foreign idol in there basement for the people of Abyss to worship. That would be like going to the Vatican, going down a set of stairs, and finding a statue of the Buddha sitting there. And when you ask the bishop about it he says he's fine with it so long as their worship doesn't interrupt the parishioners that are there to speak with the Pope. The amount of religious freedom you're allowed within the central Church is obscene. The only thing they ask you to do is not try to kill them or take their shit
Yes the church clergy and Abyssians hate one another. But Rhea won't allow them to be purged either. It's not like they have a holy crusade planned, the church tolerates them so long as they don't interfere with the worship of the rest of the parishioners.
Rhea's cult literally banishes all non-believers to the literal Abyss and rheatrannies will claim this is religious freedom because she didn't burn them at the stake
Garreg Mach has a 15 ft foreign idol in there basement for the people of Abyss to worship. That would be like going to the Vatican, going down a set of stairs, and finding a statue of the Buddha sitting there. And when you ask the bishop about it he says he's fine with it so long as their worship doesn't interrupt the parishioners that are there to speak with the Pope. The amount of religious freedom you're allowed within the central Church is obscene. The only thing they ask you to do is not try to kill them or take their shit
There's also the matter of Albinean moose meat being an item, Albinean seeds and berries being greenhouse items, Morfis plums and seeds also being greenhouse items, a battalion trained in Morfis being recruitable in every route, Shamir being in Fodlan, Shamir being highly respected with no discrimination in Fodlan, and Shamir loving Exotic Spices that come from a land east of Almyra. The church also adopted Cyril and treated him better than House Goneril did, and unless she has the strongest tan in the world, Catherine is probably of mixed race.
Claude is full of shit in that line. IMO, it's showing how he's gone off the rails and his allies have lost the individual will and spirit to speak out against nonsense, thereby losing a defining trait they had in Three Houses.
>Benedict's schemes + Dimitri's boar strength
The war would be over in 3 months tops
Also, I'm just realizing that Hyzante actually does most of the fricked up shit Edelgard accuses the church of Seiros of doing
>Hyzante actually does most of the fricked up shit Edelgard accuses the church of Seiros of doing
The utility route left a bad taste in my mouth but Roland's "It is" to Frederica was kino, he might have been suggesting something utterly cruel but he wasn't making excuses for it. Too bad they undermined the conviction routes with the golden ending.
I'm on the last chapter of GW and holy frick I feel like I'm losing my mind. Every single point Claude has against the Church is bullshit, I don't want to to do it. I didn’t sign up for this. Frick you Claude
I see people claim Hopes is better written than Houses. I wonder how they even come to that conclusion. No flow to the story and half the story is based on logical flaws.
Not in the slightest
That it doesn't waste a lifetime on SoL garbage that is utterly irrelevant to the remaining half of the game, already makes it better by default
Hopes is shit and you're still in the honeymoon phase and can't see it for what it is.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Hopes is shit muh honeymoon phase
Cope, houseBlack person
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hope's story is shit, it's only redeeming factor is the lore building but it somehow managed to make a story even more shitty than 3 Houses.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Are you autistic or some crazy Byleth self-inserter? It’s literally Coke vs Pepsi different flavours of the same thing
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah I'm just someone with fricking taste, 3 Copes is a pointless story with no end. I could say the same about you are just some brainless Shezgay or do you just hate Byleth and think that anyone who dislikes Copes has to like Byleth?
>but it somehow managed to make a story even more shitty than 3 Houses.
White Clouds getting excised makes that impossible
And yet it did it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>but it somehow managed to make a story even more shitty than 3 Houses.
White Clouds getting excised makes that impossible
Because it's new and they're blinded by the fact that it's a shiny new thing that they aren't judging how good product is. Basically it's the honeymoon phase.
>half the story is based on logical flaws.
When the main character is a lair that's not a logical flaw at all, just a why have a terrible person at the helm
I'm going to say it. Rhea is OBJECTIVELY supposed to be evil. Regardless of player interpretation, it is the intention of the writers. How can you tell? Take one damn look at her true form. It's fricking hideous. >But it's a dragon, you can't judge how it looks!
Nonsense. Dragons can be regal, they can be majestic. Dragons can be goddamn beautiful. Meanwhile The Immaculate One looks like a pitbull with wings. And no, it's not meant to be ironic. Japan does not do irony, what you see is what you get. Just look at how the male Slitherers are all vile abominations with bulging heads.
>Indech and Maculi do not support Rhea's decisions or the church and want absolutely nothing to do with the war, also choosing to maintain their true form rather than masquerading in a human skin-suit >They're cute chicken and turtle dragons with natural earthy tone color palettes resembling actual animals rather than the ivory abomination of the Immaculate One, who also warps people into junji ito flesh monsters during Silver Snow
really makes you think
church gays are unbelievable though, I did black eagles my first playthrough and made a save before the big decision, it's hilarious that Rhea is literally the fricking final boss EVEN WHEN YOU SIDE WITH HER.
Macuil hates humans and his response to Lambert ducking up his attempts at peace talks with Sreng so badly they started fighting was to pull out his magic shotgun, yell “GET OFF MY LAWN”, “FRICK HUMANS”, and “BOTH SIDES” as he started firing at Srengs chieftain that he sent him to his death and injured Lambert badly enough to retreat.
Wow the Hopes datamine has some fairly interesting stuff. Excluding secret characters and HP (because HP would inflate the values), Edelgard actually has the highest base stats at level 120 at 522, followed by Claude at 513. Dimitri comes in at 9th place, however, he does have the highest base strength at 85. His low placement is because he favors HP, he's the only character among the top 20 to break 7000 HP. Meanwhile, Edelgard is highest because her strength and magic are both extremely high, she has the 2nd highest base strength at 79 with the 8th highest base magic at 70.
Same reason why Claude has the second highest charisma, both of them managed to charm their allies into doing dumb shit. When you're 7-8 points clear of your next highest competitor, you know the game is trying to tell you something
>if you don't do the secret passage strategem, Gustave and Annette die both die, rather than the former rescuing the latter before you gut him
well ok, though it's kind of pointless since it's not like you can even recruit Annette
Are Black Eagles and Golden Deers even worth playing or is it like Three Houses where the Blue Lions is the only route with somewhat competent writing?
You actually fight the Empire in the first half, and then ally with them to fight the Kingdom & Chuch in the second half. You also deal with the Almyran threat.
It is also the best route.
You get relics/sacred weapons for everything but lances and swords, and for lances you do get a lance as good as a relic from the start through Jeritza
All of them are inferior to the legacy weapons regardless
>Ignatz/Marianne support has her mention bringing Ingrid along >on GW
Is it because I'm on NG+ so the game considers Ingrid recruited? That seems like an oversight.
>it is not an evil crest system that everyone outside the cult claims it to be, it is actually a good crest system! >Bad thing is EVIL: debunked >Bad thing is GOOD because it has good intentions: True
Rheatrannies literally use fact checker argumentative tactics now, they are so fricked in the head
you don't understand anon. all the people with crests will be rounded up and gassed in edelgard' brave new world. This is the final solution for the crest problem and the only way there can be peace in fodlan
>Rhea admits she did plenty of wrong, manipulating, deceiving, lying, unspeakable human experiments, and she was to blame for the war.
Most rheagays are just AM one routers with some headcanon about her since she doesn't appear in their side route, Rheagays never played SS they don't know about this
That line is about her regrets that, even if it created a morality system, she told a lie about the Crests' origin, as well as if she might have missed something while trying to revive Sothis. It's not saying she oppressed the world or built a caste system. She even hired Hanneman and funds his research to render Crests irrelevant.
His research goals are known only to himself and whoever he bothers to tell, to everyone else he's just a kooky scientist fascinated by crests and relics
that's your headcanon. nothing implies what you've said
2 years ago
Anonymous
If the church were well aware of his goals and desires, then Seteth wouldn't be so craby and unwilling to help with his research
2 years ago
Anonymous
also your headcanon. nothing even implies what you're saying
2 years ago
Anonymous
>their support is now headcanon
Whatever you say
2 years ago
Anonymous
>man who's hiding his identity doesn't want get involved in any experiments >THAT MEANS THAT THE EXPERIMENTS ARE SHADY
ok
2 years ago
Anonymous
>initially only willing to help Hanneman to get him off his back, and eventually to keep him away from Flayn
That's definitely a man who knows about Hanneman's distaste for crest society and desire to bring equality for all, which Rhea was supporting from the start, indeed
2 years ago
Anonymous
it doesn't matter whether hanneman's goal are good or not. if information about seteth's identity got out it would attract unwanted attention. Are you being an obtuse homosexual for the sake of your disingenuous argument, or are you just moronic?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Except he acts like a salty b***h even over just giving him regular crest related reseach material, and never shows any sort of positivity over the fruits of his research, when we know he doesn't approve of society's current track
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not that anon, but that's not a sign of anything. Considering who Seteth is and why he's hiding his identity even if he did know he still likely wouldn't want to help, because it would create more questions.
>Rhea: "I did a lot of fricked up shit - I was wrong and my actions resulted into a pointless war >Rheagays: "No, you dumb b***h - You never did anything wrong - Everyone else is the problem now please sit on my face"
This is literally fact checkers trying to debunk when one of the elites makes a slip of the tongue, like when Bill gates said he wants to reduce the world's population
Female versions tend already to be more popular than the male counterpart(for obvious reasons), but in Shez case the female design also fits better with the dumb personality of the character.
Also look how cute she is in her academy uniform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQ-AYV3g_Q
Shit design couple with bland and forgettable personality,The devs were trying to play it safe with both Shez and Arval characters which sadly both ended up as bland
>Wake up >Open Fire Emblem thread on Ganker >Half the thread is hidden >Close Fire Emblem thread on Ganker >Go back to sleep
i'll come back when edelchizo takes his meds
>Claim: "Bill Gates said he wants to reduce the world's population" >False! Bill Gates actually said he wants to reduce the world's OVERpopulation! >Claim: "Rhea admits she spread false history, manipulated the Sothis believers, conducted human experiments for personal gain and caused a war" >False! Rhea actually said she did all these crimes for GOOD INTENTIONS!
This is literally fact checkers trying to debunk when one of the elites makes a slip of the tongue, like when Bill gates said he wants to reduce the world's population
2022 Liberal World Order: >Claim: "Bill Gates said he wants to reduce the world's population" >Fact Checkers: False! Bill Gates actually said he wants to reduce the world's OVERpopulation!
Three Houses: >Claim: "Rhea admits she spread false history, manipulated the Sothis believers, conducted human experiments for personal gain and caused a war" >Church cultists: False! Rhea actually said she did all these crimes for GOOD INTENTIONS!
Hye guys, Byleth here, just got back from Three Houses
Is it true Churchcultists now claim Claude's route was also written by Hubert and Claude is just manipulated by the Slithers like they said about CF?
So has Rhea been Archbishop for a thousand years? What about Seteth and Flayn?
Why hasn't anyone questioned why the Archbishop never changes?
You'd think people would notice that Flayn never ages too
>be eternal milf Archbishop that rules for 80 years >disappear one day >new Archbishop is chosen >looks just like the old archbishop but she has a ponytail instead >"Hello, my name is Archbishop Breah"
>She changes her look
the brings up a whole bunch of other problems though? You can't just disappear, change your look, come back and be like "'sup, i'm your new pope". Even if the archbishop position of the church of seiros isn't an elected role like in catholic church, and can be appointed, you still gotta have a certain level of influence in the church instead of being a literal who. Gotta have connections, shae hands, have tea with the acting archbishop and other cleric. And Rhea can't be in two place at once
2 years ago
Anonymous
The cardinals, who no one knows the true identities of, can just bullshit that the new archbishop was a promoted member of their rank, and if she happens to mysteriously resemble the last archbishop, well that's just a matter of them being related to each other
It's not like there's anyone who'll live long enough to realize that's a crock of shit, outside their long lived circle
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not like Archbishop's position is only for a woman (think Bernadaddy) and nobody questioned that for so many years?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is the same game where Mercedes recognises her brother based on his voice despite a mask filtering it and her brother being 9 when she left.
Don’t put too much thought into it because the writers clearly didn’t.
Probably
No
She has a really good PR team around to cover the facts, though some things slip by considering Ignatz and Sylvain find a portrait of the old archbishop 200 years ago and notice she just so happens to resemble it
She and Seteth only come to the church somewhat recently
>So has Rhea been Archbishop for a thousand years?
She said under different guises >What about Seteth and Flayn?
Flayn and Seteth live in a remote location in Central Fodlan, Flayn requires long periods of sleep due to overtaxing her young body during the War of Heroes. >Why hasn't anyone questioned why the Archbishop never changes?
They don't because Rhea uses different guises, and it's well known that high ranking Church officials live stupid long. >You'd think people would notice that Flayn never ages too
She hasn't been out of the house in hundreds of years
What are some builds that you've taken as your head canon for what the characters should be?
For me it's
Hapi: Warrior/Great Knight
Marianne: Holy Knight
Ingrid: Holy Knight
Leonie: Bow knight (The game has her preferred path as a holy knight for some reason)
Manuela: Trickster
>Marianne: Holy Knight
based, with her hopes design she literally appears as some depressed female knight trying to cope with her existence. It's a kino aesthetic
What are some builds that you've taken as your head canon for what the characters should be?
For me it's
Hapi: Warrior/Great Knight
Marianne: Holy Knight
Ingrid: Holy Knight
Leonie: Bow knight (The game has her preferred path as a holy knight for some reason)
Manuela: Trickster
This is the image I wanted to post. My cute Marianne. My cute smelly little depresso wife...
>Ingrid Holy Knight
Thank frick someone else does this. Am I the only one that just doesn't like flying classes? They feel so corny to me. Just give a cute girl on a regular horse and not some flying bullshit. Ingrid looks way cooler as a regular knight anyways
Leonie on a fast class can double most enemies on EP and destroy entire groups of enemies by herself.
And she still has PBV for the few enemies she can't double naturally like assassins and swordmasters. >-1 speed every ten levels on average
More like 2/3 every 10 levels because it's +10/+20 vs -10, and an extra flat difference for 4-6 from class modifiers, and maybe more from the skill slot you free by not having to take hit+20 so you can actually hit something with your increased range as a bow knight. And flier movement is far better than cav movement.
>Leonie on a fast class can double most enemies on EP and destroy entire groups of enemies by herself. >not getting Hit +20
Ah okay, we are talking about Hard mode. Just leave her in Commoner in that case, it literally doesnt matter what you do in that difficulty.
Literally all my playthroughs were on maddening.
Turns out you don't need hit+20 when you don't fall for the extra range meme.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>noooo why did i miss this 70 accuracy PBV
There is objectively no reason not to get Hit +20 on everyone, unless you hate reliability.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ever having hit issues with PBV
They only characters I ever had hit issues with are Hilda if you keep axes on her and Lysithea with her stronger spells until she gets a good hit battalion.
That's why they get a 30% damage bonus when ordered to attack which I think is multiplicative with triangle advantage, they're not as good as the player but they can at least hold enemies and stop them from running away or killing green units you have to protect
Shez is also ridiculously overpowered especially early game so you'll be mowing through multiple commanders with his combos before they can come close to killing one
>artist also did one with the Blue Lions >Ingrid is the most normal looking one of the bunch
These people still judge Ingrid for being little miss racist and never look beyond the surface level. Ingridbros, we dodged a fricking bullet with these psychopaths!
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>It's the Church's fault Fodlan has bad relations!
Or maybe it's the fact that Fodlan's neighbours are a bunch of c**ts? Seriously, Hopes has made me hate Claude so much.
>Almyra
Have a warrior culture that glorifies killing people for no reason. Their entire leadership succession is based on who has the most impressive military feats. They've attacked Fodlan hundreds of times completely unprovoked and according to Hilda every alliance they've ever made with Almyra has been betrayed by the Almyrans.
>Sreng
Invaded the Kingdom first 200 years ago. It is hard to solve their relations though because both the Kingdom and Sreng are competing over scarce resources.
>Dagda and Brigid
Literally invaded out of nowhere for no reason and then razed an entire region of Fodlan to the ground, butchering Constance's entire family.
>Duscur
Funnily enough, this is the one foreign country a region of Fodlan was trying to improve relations with. And it was the Kingdom, the nation with the closest ties to the Church of Seiros. Claude must be a complete moron if he doesn't know that the Kingdom were already trying to improve relations with Duscur 20 years ago under Lambert but then got Slither'd, that's the whole reason Lambert was even in Duscur in the first place.
What the actual frick did they mean by this? How is the Church to blame for any of this? It feels like something they pulled out of their ass to give Claude a reason to be anti-Church when all of the prior worldbuilding paints Fodlan's neighbours as huge buttholes. There are basically no historical accounts that show any of the Fodlan nations as aggressors against foreign territory.
Fodlan doesn't have time to be aggressors because they're too busy slaughtering one another because the church used dragon blood steroids to forcibly unite the continent a thousand years ago and have been fighting and splintering from that moronic decision ever since
Gee I wonder who was responsible for that little oopsie? What's the adrestian family crest again...? Oh........
>because they're too busy slaughtering one another
they're not though. There hasn't been a war since alliance broke away. which is what 200 years? Pretty good run.
>because they're too busy slaughtering one another
they've had about 3 wars with each other in the last 1000+ years and haven't had one in 200 years at the start of the game
>because they're too busy slaughtering one another
they're not though. There hasn't been a war since alliance broke away. which is what 200 years? Pretty good run.
There was one MAJOR war, do you "fodlan is a nation of peace!" morons just completely ignore that all three factions are in a constant cold war with one another and frequent border skirmishes to the point BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries prior to the game's events?
Fodlan is at """""peace""""""" in the same way that the U.S has never officially declared war since World War 2. Jeralt has been slaughtering people for DECADES as a professional mercenary that's renowned across the entire continent for frick's sake.
Skirmishes between noble in a nation is not equivalent to war with another. All of the conflicts, outside of Ordelia and the Empire, are between nobles under one nation. That's more like states fighting and the church had nothing to do with that
so are you arguing that fodlan should more united or more fractured? First you mald over rhea uniting fodlan thousand years ago, but now you seethe that fractured foldan countries are still on not exactly friendly turns. So which one is it schizo-kun?. ALso >three factions are in a constant cold war with one another
can you provide examples? of that? >BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries
from what we saw they were mostly fighting bandits. also, as other anon mentioned opportunistic nobles fighting each other isn't the same as contried going into an all out war.
It's not a binary "more unified" or "more fractured", the entire point is that it was unsustainably unified by force because Rhea is fricking moronic and used her dragon dick to fill Wilhelm full of magic cum and then wage a war of conquest a thousand years ago that still informs the current state of the continent's politics. It was unified half-wienered without a plan, fractured apart, now has constant fighting both internally WITHIN the 3 factions, fighting BETWEEN the factions, and also fighting against external threats because the world of Houses/Hopes actually exists besides the immediate surroundings of the protagonist unlike Fates.
The point is that Rhea should NOT be the one trying to solve these fricking problems because she's a crazy frickup and the Adrestian empire is literally her doing, as is crest-based social hierarchy because she pranked everyone into thinking moleman bioweapons are a sign Jesus loves you.
She should go shit in the woods like the wild animal she is like her brothers Indech and Maculi do. The moral message of 3 Houses is "women should not hold power" lmao
>frequent border skirmishes to the point BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries prior to the game's events?
Right because this would never happen in Dagda where Shamir outright says there are mercenary groups large enough that they've become actual nation states and Almyra that has constant battles and succession crises.
There's literally nothing exceptional about Fodlan's circumstances. There are also examples of the Fodlan countries clearly not being in a cold war and co-operating like the construction of Fodlan's Throat or the fact they all agree to go to the same United Nations-esque school.
What exactly do you think Jeralt was doing when he went from one battlefield to another, constantly, for DECADES, killing and killing and killing and killing for almost a goddamn century?
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killing bandits
killing monsters
you do know mercenaries aren't exclusive to fodlan right?
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Nobles have their own private armies and he was from Faerghus where everything tries to kill you. It's kill or be killed
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>claims fodlan nations are in a state of cold war >cites the existance of mercenaries as proof
do you understand the defnition of "cold war", anon?
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Cold Wars still have fighting and border skirmishes you moron especially through proxies, literally half the fighting between Alliance nobles is between those who support the kingdom or the empire
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so what proxies were the three nations using? Please give exmples. As well as examples of border skirmishes
>Fodlan doesn't have time to be aggressors because they're too busy slaughtering one another because the church used dragon blood steroids to forcibly unite the continent a thousand years ago and have been fighting and splintering from that moronic decision ever since
Nemesis and his cronies were wholesale slaughtering people left and right with the powers they stole.
According to the church
And yet even the church tinted history notes it was the Empire that raised an army and began aggressions with Nemesis, which meant the latter had not done anything to them even as they existed as a separate political entity for 30+ years, and Nemesis and his band were beloved enough by the people that Rhea had to settle with treating them as (former) Heroes, rather than going all the way with the slander
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
Dev interview
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>nobody responded to this post
lmao
church simps are so predictable. they demand a source, get corrected with literally developer word of god, then go radio silent trying to ignore the facts that don't fit their argument.
Dragon bad. Silver Snow ends with Rhea either a fricking corpse or kept as a bimbo broodmare while abdicating all power to the Mary Sue protagonist who's literally the second coming of God. Either way even her own goddamn route isn't stupid enough to trust her with more responsibility than what lingerie to wear for Byleth.
I would imagine their titles alone speak to people' mysticism and elevation to legend status. The king of liberation and his 12 elites. Also the fact that most of the houses still revere the eleite they descended from.
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not necessarily. could be stuff that came later
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Except Nemesis' army are labeled as the Liberation Army even during the War of Heroes, as confirmed by Arval's paralogue
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>Also the fact that most of the houses still revere the eleite they descended from
Lorenz even brags about being descended from Gloucester claiming it's more prestigious than being descended from Macuil against Constance
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Sorry. I mean 10 elites. I was mixing them up with the 12 crusaders from fe4.
Not him but according to the devs the people of the north saw Nemesis as a hero but in 3 Houses itself you can gather from the diary entry and Maurice that Nemesis was seen as a hero because he lied to everyone, including the 10 Elites.
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that makes sense. so it wasn't even rhea's fault. she just took an existing lie and ran with it
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Nemesis was beloved by humans because he killed the nabataens who ruled them and empowered humanity. Rhea couldn't go full globohomosexual and suppress all information so she had to work with some elements of the truth when establishing the church. >: Why did Seiros (Rhea) leave the Ten Elites and Nemesis as heroes in history? >Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
Also the Church intentionally suppressing technological development is absolutely something that happened and that alone makes them deserving of death >As the library underground points out, the speed of civilization advancement was way too fast and so they wanted to suppress that, eh. There are also reasons for that but… that will remain a secret, haha.
The dragons intentionally suppressing humanity's technological development for their own selfish reasons is enough cassus belli to kill all of them besides the ones with absolutely zero interest in mortal affairs like Indech.
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>Nemesis was beloved by humans because he killed the nabataens who ruled them and empowered humanity. Rhea couldn't go full globohomosexual and suppress all information so she had to work with some elements of the truth when establishing the church.
He wasn't beloved by all, he was bandit turned king. Southern Fodlan rallied against him. >Also the Church intentionally suppressing technological development is absolutely something that happened and that alone makes them deserving of death
Rhea fought the Agarthans during the War of Heroes. You know how their tech fricked everything up on multiple occasions, plus Rhea relented on the tech suppression over time. >The dragons intentionally suppressing humanity's technological development for their own selfish reasons is enough cassus belli to kill all of them besides the ones with absolutely zero interest in mortal affairs like Indech.
Sothis made Fodlan humans dragons, they both have the right to call Fodlan home.
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not an argument, still gonna turn her into a nice pair of snakeskin boots with my buddy Khalid ibn muhammad, first high sultan of fodlan, mashallah may the wicked serpent be cast out
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So you'll ignore every bit a nuance there is to the writing of Rhea, and the Nabateans to shitpost on these threads.
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>nuance
there is no nuance. dragons are not people. dragons lying to people and suppressing their development results in death or being chained to the bedpost as breeding stock like in silver snow.
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Humans lie to humans and dehumanize other humans all the ducking time. By this logic humanity should be wiped to extinction or put in farms to be bred for actual dragon masters like Medeus.
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No, because humans are humans. Dragons are not people and not humans.
I'm sorry this is so hard for you to understand. Might I recommend you play some Monster Hunter to get a better understanding?
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Of the Elder Dragons actually got pissed off enough they’ll destroy humanity just as they destroyed civilization in the past.
Meanwhile the riders become buddies with their monsties.
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That only means he never told them the super powers come from dragon murder, but being called a hero requires actually doing stuff that would make people notice you
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They didn't know where the blood and weapons came from but they blame him because it's only after he died that whatever lies he told them were undone.
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The fact he died also destroyed the illusion of him being all powerful as well.
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Yup, all we know about Nemesis is that he lied to the people about a lot of things.
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Wow, he and Rhea are perfect for each other!
Imagine the sex
>Nemesis and his band were beloved enough by the people that Rhea had to settle with treating them as (former) Heroes, rather than going all the way with the slander
"Beloved" is a funny way of saying ruled by fear. The people were terrified of Nemesis and the only way weak people like most of Fodlanders could live was by following him because it was a world where only the strong survived. They couldn't slander him because it wouldn't exactly help people to know that their ruler was even worse than they remembered.
dragons aren't people, making weapons out of dragon bones isn't "stealing" anymore than playing fricking Monster Hunter is grand larceny.
Also regarding Nemesis
https://serenesforest.net/2020/03/24/three-houses-nintendo-dream-interview-reveals-first-route-claudes-real-name/ >As a result, what would happen to humans who gained power… they would want even more power, and find a dragon much stronger to beat in order to collect materials forcefully, in order to make even more powerful weapons… and so that was the cycle that was born. And that was the birth of Fodlan’s Ten Elites. And then, Seiros raised and army and forcefully suppressed Nemesis and the Ten Elites by beating them, and then afterwards, as the victor, Seiros changed history, which led to the current history of the Seiros Church. In other words, “history is at the end of the day the victor’s privilege and nothing else”, is what we fit in.
Nemesis being the "King of Liberation" isn't a misnomer, he really did kill the nabataens who currently dominated the continent, but then Rhea raised her own army and killed him and history is written by the victors. Trying to paint the conflict as anything other than a power struggle is silly. The reason her church didn't just say "Nemesis is literally Satan and the worst evil alive, the ten elites are all monsters" is because people wouldn't believe it, she made her fake religion twist the truth just enough to be believable. Nemesis and his ten elites DID kill their nabataen governors and receive great power, but she convinced everyone that their power was a blessing from the goddess and reward for their virtue. Which ultimately drove her fricking insane because she's a stupid b***h who decided it would be a good idea to run a religion venerating the people who killed her mother lmao.
dragons belong chained up in the bedroom, do not put them in positions of power, Jesus Christ how many fricking times do you need to learn this lesson from FE games
>dragons belong chained up in the bedroom, do not put them in positions of power, Jesus Christ how many fricking times do you need to learn this lesson from FE games
Is 3H the only game Nick has played?
i don't think he's even payed it. From the rubbish he's spouting it looks like he's only watched opinion pieces on youtube and maybe a couple of trailers
>Awakening >Fates >Three Houses >Three Hopes >Any game with Manaketes
dragons are designated lord onaholes, do not put them in positions of power, they go fricking nuts and need to be put down.
>Literally invaded out of nowhere for no reason and then razed an entire region of Fodlan to the ground, butchering Constance's entire family.
they invaded empire though, so it's ok. Their only fault was being too shit at war
>What the actual frick did they mean by this? How is the Church to blame for any of this? It feels like something they pulled out of their ass to give Claude a reason to be anti-Church when all of the prior worldbuilding paints Fodlan's neighbours as huge buttholes
Claude in Houses literally has a speech about how Garreg Maach was the ideal that he wanted to create and even challenges Lorenz on his belief about the church doctrine of which Claude ends up being right. But that only came about because Claude went to school and so actually learned about Fodlan. Copes Claude is still isolated and doesn't get to learn about Fodlan.
My great-great-grandpa was killed by a crestie. I think all cresties should pay reparations to us normal people. If you this that's unreasonable, then it's just you internalized crestogynt speaking. CRESTLET LIVES MATTER! KILL ALL CRESTIES! CREST WAR NOW!
Because Shez is also a crestless orphan commoner just like her, who has nonetheless managed to rise to prominence and power through his own strength and she admires that as a model for how to deal with her own insecurities. It's actually a pretty decent pairing and one of the supports in Hopes I liked most, like with Shez admitting he knows fricking nothing about opera or classically trained singing and so can't really rate her performance as anything other than "sounds nice" because he's a country bumpkin.
Two for two Jeralt fricking off with Byleth and going into the mercenary life is what fricked them over. It's especially sad when you realize that the timeline gains their own agency is when she is separated from him and he doesn't get to watch over or dictate who she speaks to.
Kronya is an actual hero of Three Houses because she saved us from an annoying lesbian adrestian poster and made Byleth's personality a little less wooden
>gets rid of the Duke >kills Jeralt thus allowing Byleth to gain her own agency >traps Byleth in Zaharas thus allowing Byleth and Sothis to naturally merge
Kronya was unironically the hero the world needed.
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Byleth in Zaharas thus allowing Byleth and Sothis to naturally merge
that was solon
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He used Kronya's body to release the spell.
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oh well in that case thales is the real hero since he's the one who saved kronya and orchestrated the thing. You fricking moron
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Eh, you could say that the Slithers in general saved the world with their incompetence in 3 Houses. While in 3 Copes, Arval was very competent at his job that's why the war doesn't end and ironically so is Shez who unwittingly makes it so that even more human lives are lost.
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>and ironically so is Shez who unwittingly makes it so that even more human lives are lost. >when the war is almost done in just 1 year, rather than Houses 5
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>>when the war is almost done in just 1 year, rather than Houses 5 >she thinks the next war is going to be shorter than the five year war Byleth finished in one
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>thinks the war will be shorter even though the end dialogue tells you that it doesn't end.
Jeralt is the worst father in the game, worse than count Varley and whatever Edelgard's dad is called. He manipulates Byleth and makes him socially moronic, giving him the worst possible life because mercenaries can die at any moment. Varley has his flaws but he never left Bernadetta alone to fend for herself for several months to get drunk and didn't put her on a battlefield since she was little. If Byleth didn't have the crest of flames and whatever power comes from it, he'd probably be dead long before Three Houses starts. He's a neglectful prick, Kronya did nothing wrong.
Not that anon but is that normal to finish around that level? I was using Shez a lot so they were ~90 when I finished and everyone else was hovering around 50-60
Damn guess I just really unga bungad with Shez hard then. Looking back considering I was constantly buying levels for my other characters and was basically soloing paralogues(ie: knights of seiros, Ashen wolves) with Shez it seems really obvious I was over using him. Probably why that one level where you lose control of shez if you spare byleth was a huge pain to S rank
So can someone help my autistic ass?
I'm playing Hard/Classic, SB as my first route and I'm on chapter 11 and the only guy close to fricking levels with the actual enemy generals at this stage is Shez while everyone still like 60-63 fighting against level 70-73s
So like what the frick am I supposed to go do? I know I can go back and farm the last level of the last chapter and get gold but that is so fricking time consuming and slow it's not even funny, and to make it even worthwhile you have to get S-Rank which takes even more time, is there a better way to get gold so I can level up everyone up quicker or whats the deal?
Also why does the three upgrade for the training grounds say it MASSIVELY reduces the gold needed to level up characters, when at most it did away around 1k? Whats the fricking secret to farming gold
Easy, the game mechanics is that the level of your enemies is an average of your highest and lowest level characters. Your dumbass keeps deploying Shez and probably using him exclusively during battles. Thus why you are faced with this issue. That’s the incentive to rotate ALL characters you like using. You can replay the same battles within the same chapter. So just spend sometime playing through the same mission until your characters get more even out.
I spend all my cold on gifts for Edelgard, Lystheia, and Constance tho. Also farming gold requires finishing missions so yeah . . .
I do a mix of both. I prioritize taking my waifus out on expeditions tho
Nah, Edelgard had no right to speak. The issue with Byleth wasn't moving on it was in them finding a reason to live as thus far Jeralt was their only reason for living. The issue wasn't as simple as just moving on.
If Claude did that Randolph strategy on a route where he wasn't being a complete moron in terms of who he was fighting everybody would think he was based.
>He wasn't being a complete moron about who he was fighting
the cope from dragon simps since this game came out is unbelievable, maybe Rhea is actually not that great of a person and there's a reason she loses all power even in her own route (and is even the final boss of said route lol)
I did both Black Eagles routes as my first two playthroughs because I saved before the split and didn't want to bother replaying white clouds all over again, when I did the other routes I was genuinely surprised I didn't have to kill her crazy ass a THIRD time because by that point I just assumed psycho dragon would be the final boss for everyone.
On Ganker nobody appreciated that "intricate nature", for multiple years at this point it's been Dimitri fujos shit posting about how they're the canon golden route and dragon apolgists insisting the game and developers are lying to you and actually she did nothing wrong, ever, even though the entire state of the continent is her fault (and her insanity is also her fault because she decided making a religion that venerates herself and her mother's killers instead of just making a fricking Church of Sothis was a good idea lol)
Some Edeltard reddit, people call him Nick because that's a part of his username Nickdos which everyone found out when he accidentally doxxed himself. It's easy to pick him out because of the language that he uses and the fact that he'll call every character except Edelgard a schizo, has an amazing ability to literally blame Rhea and also Dimitri for everything wrong with Fodlan while also conviently ignoring the Slithers and their roles in the game's events and never admitting to any of Edelgard's wrongdoing.
It should also be known that Nickdos has very likely never played any route besides CF though he'll pretend to have done so you'll easily figure out that he's lying.
Not even the biggest Rhea simps claim that she did anything wrong and a few that do are just shitposting like you are. Rhea has several personal failings that she has to deal with. The problem is that none of those failings required a war, especially a war on the scale that we see in the game. Rhea is damaged from trauma. But so is everyone else. The entire Blue Lion house revolves around trauma. Edelgard's moral imperative is founded on trauma. Lysithea was tortured. Raphael lost his parents. Saying that somebody doesn't get to serve in their role because they are damaged is not enough because everyone is. There are fricked up things that church has done. But that also applies to every other faction and every other civilization that has ever existed. But the only thing they ever did was clean their room or establish their own nation. If Edelgard went home and said "the central church isn't allowed here anymore" and fixed her own shit nobody would have complained. But it becomes an argument because she turns her problem into everyone's problem. Hey look at that, Caspar actually knew what he was talking about.
>Not even the biggest Rhea simps claim she did nothing wrong
there are several people making passionate arguments to exactly that point in this very thread lol
I just finished Scarlet Blaze and I feel so unfulfilled. How different would it have been without recruiting Byleth? I feel like Arval was barely explored.
You get to kill that rat Claude, no Arval chapters however, though you get a special Arval paralogue on future runs with a dead Byleth and unlocked Arval
Yes and no. Flayn is Seteth's only child but at some point during the War of Heroes they passed their blood onto trusted generals that would end up becoming Lords Hevring and Aegir. Ingrid remarks that at one point the nobility tried to keep their blood pure but family lines have gotten so mixed up over time that no one cares anymore
You people are weird. Did you completely ignore the fact that Ingrid can hook up with Claude? Ingrid's anger towards the people in Duscur isn't rooted in racial superiority
Yeah well Twitter is fricking stupid. It's a site that's founded on shitposting and moral outrage. It also ignores the fact that Ingrid can get over her anger in the game that presents her anger. She tells you outright that she hates the people of Duscur because they killed her King and her fiance. She hates them because she was lied to. By the Slitherers. How the frick do you miss that?
Most of the Empire's nobles are the great x10 grandchildren of people who were friends with Seteth, Flayn and Rhea during the War of Heroes.
That's why in Scarlet Blaze Flayn says this: their friends descendants are now coming to kill them for completely misguided reasons. It's even funnier when you realise the Kingdom are descended from the people who killed Rhea's family but are now her most loyal supporters.
>tfw STILL no route where you can just grab Rhea and Edelgard and frick them both into an absolute stupor so they chill out with the crazy and the actual adults in the room can solve things themselves
So it really is a matter of the Male character being judged by their merits and the female by her looks? I'm not surprised but it's disappointing all the same, isn't it?
Its hard to say with Dimitri because his kind-hearted nature and somewhat optimistic outlook for reconciliation is something that female lords are usually criticized for.
I don't think female Dimitri as a concept is a bad idea I just don't have faith in the writer's to actually stick with the same characterisation and moments they give male Dimitri. More likely they'll do what the did for Edelgard and just play his tard strength for laughs and a tone shifter from more serious moments.
With a female Dimitri all of his emotional failings would be blamed on her just being a woman rather than the trauma attached to it. Especially on this board. Dimitri, for better or worse, wears his emotions on his sleeve. He really wants to be sincere but he also has a lot of rage that slips out. There's almost never a time where he has an ulterior motive and a few secrets he does keep is a result of him trying to take care of literally everything by himself so that his friends doesn't suffer. If he had breasts then it would be so easy for memesters to handwave it all as her just being a hysterical woman that spends the entire game on her period. Hell Dimitri has a dick now and it's hard to have a conversation about his character without that one guy just repeating schizo ad nauseam
>Hell Dimitri has a dick now and it's hard to have a conversation about his character without that one guy just repeating schizo ad nauseam
Pretty much, it doesn't help that Edelgard went through a similarly traumatic event but came out of it cold and with no obvious trauma beyond her fear of rats. Her being a control freak is never treated as part of her PTSD by the game even though its pretty apparent that it is.
Beyond the obvious fact that people deal with trauma differently the event that directly impacted Edelgard has a very obvious people to blame and she still blamed the wrong fricking people. Dimitri's is more complex because he doesn't know who did it and he carries the guilt of the subsequent genocide his own people carried out since he couldn't prove Duscur's innocence. People like to conveniently forget that its not just his father and Glenn that he carries guilt over, its all the innocent people killed by his country in the name of justice.
>it doesn't help that Edelgard went through a similarly traumatic event but came out of it cold and with no obvious trauma beyond her fear of rats. Her being a control freak is never treated as part of her PTSD by the game even though its pretty apparent that it is.
It was pretty refreshing for SB to show off her bone deep trust issues, that her and Hubert's worst fears (mostly) come to pass in the spare Byleth route to justify it was really funny
Edelgard's issues are very much an Edelgard problem that she drags the rest of the world into. But ironically her and Hubert's attitudes lead to them being betrayed more.
Except the only time they do get betrayed was not their fault, and their paranoia over the possibility lets them frick up Claude/prepares them to apprehend Shez
>We had to wait for a musou spin off to get characterisation that should have been in the main game
Houses was a rushed, unfinished mess that straight out copy pasted one of it's routes, what a surprise
They straight up admitted to softening up Edelgard in 3 Houses. This is more of a case of them changing their mind.
That was Claude
No that was Edelgard, she was originally meant to be more antagonistic but they decided against it. I guess they thought that since Byleth is no longer in the picture and she didn't spend a year at Garreg Maach, she now trusts people even less than she did in Houses.
She's more trusting if anything since she's willing to let a probable molespy nearby, tells her allies everything about their enemies, shares her pain with Bernie, and just admits to Claude straight out what her goals are while he plays coy and keeps his cards close to his chest
But then she still betrays the church even after they helped her. Shez is dumb, and now the movement are no longer her allies. With Claude I feel like she just didn't have in her to bullshit anymore
She doesn't like the church, and thinks getting rid of Rhea will better Fodlan (which Rhea assuming she survives to the end of a route in Houses, agrees with and fricks off) which has nothing to do with trust, Shez doesn't give a shit about the morality of invading because they're a mercenary, and I'm not sure what movement you're even talking about there
As for Claude she's just laying things out so that he stops bullshitting too and they can finally clear out if their ambitions can't align and they have to get rid of each other, or not
I actually think it's a bigger problem than that. The people who laugh at Dimitri's mask off moment can only do so because they have God's eye. LOL Dimitri was wrong about who committed the tragedy. He must be moronic. As if the actual truth isn't the most insane statement ever uttered. That a bunch of shapeshifting immortal mole people body snatched the court mage and convinced a bunch of Nobles to get his family butchered. That would be like looking at the JFK assassination and laughing at everyone thinking it was some sniper instead of realizing the truth that it was fricking aliens. But you do bring up a good point in how the central fixtures in both their traumas are blamed on the wrong person. It's just that Dimitri puts that blame on one specific person. While Edelgard's rationale for her pain is "we live in a society."
>The people who laugh at Dimitri's mask off moment can only do so because they have God's eye. LOL Dimitri was wrong about who committed the tragedy. He must be moronic. As if the actual truth isn't the most insane statement ever uttered.
Exactly this, everytime we try to argue that Dimitri's anger towards Edelgard is justified with the knowledge available to him their instant rebuttal is "Slithers did it he's a moron". No amount of research is going to reveal the existence of an underground group of technologically advanced shapeshifters that are actually Fodlan's first humans are still around, the only reason Edelgard is able to find Shambala is because they revealed their very existence to her. They've gone undetected for over 1000 years what hope does some school kid have of discovering them on his own.
Hopes proved that if Dimitri is aware of their existence he will direct his hatred towards the right people and even after Cornelia taunts him saying Edelgard was responsible for Anselma's death he just asks her outright and immediately accepts that Slithers are probably full of shit and that possible conflict dies instantly.
Well even then if you throw out his accusation concerning the tragedy it's not like he suddenly doesn't have a reason to be angry. She still invaded his country. He was still framed for murder. And that's not even getting into the things he doesn't know about like how she hired Kostas to kill him. Or anything involving the Flame Emperor. Those things still happened and neither one had any connection to the tragedy. So it's not like if Dimitri suddenly opened his eyes that he'd see he didn't have anything to be angry at Edelgard about. It's just be taking one thing off the pile
>Well even then if you throw out his accusation concerning the tragedy it's not like he suddenly doesn't have a reason to be angry.
Sadly the game likes to be ambiguous on what direct orders Edelgard gives so people take as that freedom to say he's unjustified in his anger because Edelgard didn't carry out the exact action.
>It probably doesn't help that Edelgard treats people as idiots for not having knowledge of things that they wouldn't have a means of knowing.
That one really annoyed me, her arrogance is frustrating to listen to especially when this super secret knowledge isn't something she could have found on her own. Thing is it could have worked if she was actually right or they had a moment where she learns the truth but they didn't and the CF treats her conspiracies as truth so she instead comes off as an ignorant moron while chastising others for their "ignorance".
Her arrogance is a part of her trying to keep control. According to the devs 3 Houses was about perspectives and from her fricked up perspective she's right, that's why CF treats her conspiracies as truth and doesn't call out her ignorance. Because from Edelgard's own perspective she's the most knowledgeable person in the room. The reason why VW, SS, and AM have very similar perspectives is because they are closer to the truth.
>The reason why VW, SS, and AM have very similar perspectives is because they are closer to the truth
I have seen it all lmao. This game has 3 copy/paste routes because they are “closer to the truth” my god
Well think about it, those three routes end up confirming information that you learn in the other, because the information you are learning is objectively true.
But in the case of CF the information is false which is why the other 3 routes debunk most of the information you learn in CF. Could they have gone about it a better way to showcase rather than just copy pasting the routes, yes, but it's Kusakihara and KT so the laziness is to be expected.
It probably doesn't help that Edelgard treats people as idiots for not having knowledge of things that they wouldn't have a means of knowing. But then will also withhold information. The cards are all in her hands and she guards them jealously. But that's not the case in Hopes, Dimitri has all of the knowledge he needs and so can act accordingly. Claude doesn't and is now directionless, and Edelgard has given up any pretense of the war being for the good of Fodlan.
>That a bunch of shapeshifting immortal mole people body snatched the court mage and convinced a bunch of Nobles to get his family butchered.
Wow, almost like the shapeshifting immortal dragon people who secretly run the continent's major religion, designed the borders of the three nations to "coincidentally" meet at garreg mach, propagated a religion based on lies that falsifies the history of the continent, and masqueraded as a series of successive archbishops over a thousand years while actually being a singular lizardwoman pulling the strings the entire time. In fact, they went and actually founded the Adrestian empire, making all subsequent conflicts on the continent indirectly stemming from their actions!
But people continue to act like Claude and Edelgard are moronic or schizos for wanting to kill Rhea despite the fact she's Thales with a pussy. The pure copium narrative on Ganker since 3 Hopes has been "CLAUDE IS SIMPLY WRONG WTF THEY RUINED HIS CHARACTER WHY DOESN'T HE LOVE RHEA????" when his actions are completely reasonable and even in VW he wasn't sure whether keeping Rhea alive was a good idea.
Dimitri isn't like female lords he's more like Roy and Seliph, if things can be ended peacefully then okay, but if they can't then he won't hesitate. Rather than optimistic Dimitri is more of a realist, he understands what the commoners' worries and issues. He's not as pessimistic as Claude and Edelgard but as Hopes as shown Claude and Edelgard don't understand the world around them.
He doesn't have anything in common with the female lords. As he lacks their blindness and their optimism.
Are Rheacucktholictrannies still on the "Rhea did nothing wrong" cope? The game's narration itself confirms the crest system is owed to Rhea's little cult, there is no doubt about it. There are countless examples that the game provides to show this happen but Rheatards will try to excuse every single one of them. So they end in a the predicament of trying to debunk the game even though the game first shows and then says that Rhea's church is bad.
>chapter narration
churchgays literally don't care about this because they say it is written by Edelgard or Hubert, they are as dogmatic and delusional as you would expect from the religious cultists they are
Claude's entire route is about murdering Rhea and Claude is portrayed as the villain in it.
Yeah, those churchgays, basing their opinions on pretty much every fricking piece of lore in both games stating otherwise.
Rhea "Maybe I should have smothered the crest-Black folk in the crib" Seiros Immaculate One.
Crests are the mutilated surgically implanted organs of her fellow Nabateans. Rhea personally fought against the Ten Elites, who were the original bearers of the Crests and the people who helped the Agarthans slaughter her species. She has absolutely no reason to support the Crest system, and if she is doing it, she's doing it for selfless reasons because she probably feels sick to her stomach whenever she even sees a Crest.
>2 ip's
>4 posts
>one agreeing with the edeltard is a bit over one minute after the first
Curious.
Edelgard's accusation is that the church created the Crest system. The church's actual teachings are that the Crests were gifted under the principle of "with great power, there must also be great responsibility." Humans creating the modern Crest/nobility system is a sin that made the goddess turn her back on Fodlan in despair (Book of Seiros Volume II).
>church created the Crest system
They did, they dictate that nobles with crests should lead and own crest weapons as symbols of their power
They created the hierarchy to control the populace
>The church's actual teachings are that the Crests were gifted under the principle of "with great power, there must also be great responsibility."
Indeed, the crest owners control the populace and have responsibility to lead the cattle
Your cognitive dissonance is astounding
>They did, they dictate that nobles with crests should lead and own crest weapons as symbols of their power
>They created the hierarchy to control the populace
They Conquest create it, it was Nemesis who did that 1000 years ago and the nobles who kept it going because it kept them in power.
>Indeed, the crest owners control the populace and have responsibility to lead the cattle
The church doctrine specifically said that a Crest doesn't give them a right to control. Heck in the case of Leicester whose nobles actually do their jobs right and The Faerghus whose corrupt nobles are all crestlets, it's only the Empire that has this problem.
>Heck in the case of Leicester whose nobles actually do their jobs right
is this why they've made Leonie into a debt slave just for a recomendation? The anon you're arguing with is Nick, so all his argumnets are either schizo rambling, disingenuous bait or outright lies. But let's not pretend that lecester alliance is a great place for a peasant to be
Better than the Empire that's the for.
well that's true. I'd take a lifelong indentured servitude over being turned into a beast any day of the week
The church's teachings only said that the goddess picked people to wield a power to fend off evil. It's written that having a Crest doesn't make you inherently superior to people without Crests. The nobility system was made by Nemesis and the Ten Elites, Rhea just tried to seek a solution other than killing the children of the Ten Elites, who didn't know how their parents got their powers.
Also, you're posting CF ending text, where the world is getting subjected to Adrestia's propaganda department.
Rhea meant well, but fricked up since her system only reinforced crest caste status. It's in line with everything else in 3H being misguided good intentions.
>her system only reinforced crest caste status.
it wasn't her system. she had nothing to with the crests. And even if she didn't pretend that crests were a gift of the goddess, crest chads would still come up on top, because people with superpowers always do
>cognitive dissonance word salad, "the game is lying to us!"
didn't read
Rhea LITERALLY FOUNDED THE ADRESTIAN EMPIRE AND THE CREST SYSTEM, BY GIVING THE EMPEROR HER CREST AND BLOOD.
The Kingdom and Faerghus split off from the Empire but they kept the same system of crest based nobility that is further propagated by the church.
>Rhea LITERALLY FOUNDED THE ADRESTIAN EMPIRE AND THE CREST SYSTEM
The Elites and their families already did that dipshit
You really need to learn the difference between correlation and causation. Rhea didn't give Wilhelm her crest for the purpose of establishing mobility. She gave him her crest so he could help her fight Nemesis. Who butchered her family. If you want to argue that she still on the hook for nobility even though that was an unintended byproduct of her recruiting a powerful ally then fine. But make sure you ride that high horse all the way to Edelgard's glass house to visit her before you do.
Wilhelm conquered the entire continent and established an empire, and he as emperor had the special snowflake crest of seiros that would forever be passed down to his children. Even without the moronic church lies that crests are a divine blessing, Rhea's actions ensured a crest-based social hierarchy by personally empowering the fricking emperor, helping him wage war and conquer everyone else, and then entrenching a crest-holding Royal family who she told everyone had Seiros' personal blessing as a chink heavenly mandate
Wilhelm only served as Emperor a few years after the War of Heroes ended before passing the title to his son Lyacon I who then died not long after. By the point both Wilhelm and "Seiros" disappeared off the map and the Adrestians just did whatever they wanted. Once the war was over Rhea/Seiros went entirely laissez-faire. Even if she didn't care for the nobility and would rather they didn't, she didn't force people to do anything. There's never a moment in Foldan's history where the Central Church kicked down the doors of any government and said they were doing this or they were not doing that. The closest we ever get is the handling of Christophe Gaspard which was mainly done to put down the political unrest from the death of the king. But even then the Central Church didn't install a new leader, they let the kingdom handle it internally.
That's the weird thing about this argument. Nobody can ever decide how much they actually wanted the Archbishop to control the continent. One minute Rhea is a tyrannical dictator who's tendrils has wrapped around the minds of everybody in the country and she has total Shogun authority over every decision each faction makes. And then the next minute she's too hands off and allow the continent to do whatever it wanted like a negligent parent. And nobody can ever agree which one actually applies to her but you all seem to agree that it's her fault either way.
>One the war was over Rhea went laissez-faire
literally a lie and contradicted directly by developer word of god
>As the library underground points out, the speed of civilization advancement was way too fast and so they wanted to suppress that, eh. There are also reasons for that but… that will remain a secret, haha.
I await the next reptoid illuminati talking point
No shit. Did you forget the fact that Rhea lived through not 1 but 2 genocides both borne from human technology? What are you arguing?
If you actively suppress human innovation and ban autopsies and ban telescopes because "the mysteries of the heavens are the goddess's alone" and dumb shit while hoarding knowledge for yourself, you can't pretend to be laissez-faire.
>ban
And lifted by the time the game starts.
>hoarding knowledge for yourself
Proof?
Are you gonna ignore the fact that the Silters literally kill people and then wear their corpses as skins? Because that was the source of said knowledge.
That whole story comes from the fact that the Archbishop doesn't want to put the sins of the fathers on their children. Because the actual explanation would have been
> your ancestors were violent murderers who butchered my family not once but twice. You can't be trusted with things that explode all at once so now I got to space this shit out so you don't have a nice day and everything around you. You're still well ahead of your neighbor so you don't have to worry about losing any War to any foreign power. But don't expect me to give you AR-15s until you figure out how to exist without murdering everything
"You're an insane shape shifting dragon actively propagating a narcissistic religion based on lies literally named after yourself, we're going to kill you and turn you into a pair of boots because that's what psycho dragons running a blood cult illuminati deserve"
>literally a lie and contradicted directly by developer word of god
There's nothing that disagrees with anon notion. Rhea undoes the Slither influence and then goes radio silence when those same technologies reappear because the humans actually developed them in their own this time she does nothing to stop them.
Same word of god that says Rhea never intended to rule humanity?
>That said, Seiros and co. meddled with history not in order to rule over humans, but to quell the flames of war and chaos as much as possible, and to also keep a steady balance about humanity.
We already know why she supressed humanity’s technological advancement, the Slithers’ technology led to her people being butchered and turned into weapons, as well as the creation of nukes. Given the books on supressed technology were left in Abyss rather than the actual church means those bans were since lifted, and things like the Fire Orbs have actual telescopes if you zoom into them, and explosives are also shown to exist in the form of gambits.
Now, can you give us information we didnt already know? Literally all you said is things people who like Rhea already know and understand/accept due to her own circumstances. Give new information or we will just go in circles.
IN THAT SAME PARAGRAPH, IT ADMITS SHE'S RULING ABOVE HUMANITY LMAO.
>Q: Why did Seiros (Rhea) leave the Ten Elites and Nemesis as heroes in history?
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
cope, seethe, and dilate more you dragon wienersucking homosexual.
>moron-kun doesnt know the difference between above and over
>There's never a moment in Fodlan's history where the central church kicked down the doors of any government and said this is how we're doing this
If you ignore the part where Seiros literally helped wage a war of violent conquest and forcibly unified the entire fricking continent under one government, maybe. Lmao.
"The church never used force, except when she did, but it was okay because it was a good thing when she tries to wage aggressive wars to unify an empire, but when other people wage war to unify the continent it's bad, even if they're literally from the same fricking country and using the same crest she gave them to do so"
it's so pathetic. Edelgard is literally just Wilhelm 2.0 and Rhea's seething at her actions is a reflection of her own moronation, nothing she's doing isn't something Rhea didn't personally endorse and support in the past. She literally invented adrestian expansionism, dumb b***h should have stayed living off grid innawoods like her siblings.
The central church literally didn't exist back then Nick, and Nemesis was marching to the Sothern continent to take it over. Even if Seiros did nothing Nemesis would have still attacked.
who the frick is nick, is this some discord homosexualry or the name for the schizo voices you hear in your head?
The central church didn't exist yet but SAINT SEIROS still supported Wilhelm and enabled the adrestian conquest of Fodlan. Pretending that she had no part in it is ridiculous
You tell me Nick, your bs is way too obvious at this point.
Nemesis was still going to conquer the Southern contintinent that's why it had to band together, even if Rhea wasn't there they likely still would have done so. The Empire itself wasn't corrupted when Rhea still had a say in its government but when she fricked off overtime it became corrupt, which is why it split apart again.
I don't know who Nick is, I beat Hopes a few days ago and have finally stopped avoiding everything to do with the game to avoid spoilers. Not everyone who thinks Rhea is moronic is some schizo tulpa you've conjured up in your head. I've thought Rhea was a crazy b***h ever since I played Silver Snow and realized that even if Jeralt had lived through Kronya's assassination he'd still end up dead when transformed into a White Beast by Rhea's blood pact.
The berserk Crest only happened because Edelgard tortured her for 5 years. This has never happened in her 1,000 year history. That's on your Emperor.
>Your emperor
I'm not defending Edelgard in the slightest and if you took my posts that way you completely missed the point, what Edelgard does is bad FOR THE SAME REASONS WHAT RHEA DID WAS BAD. Rhea literally tries to high-road people and say "Only I'M allowed to wage a war against the entire continent and unify it under the Adrestian flag with an emperor bearing the crest of seiros, you're not allowed to that.... because I said so!!!"
Edelgard and Rhea both belong absolutely nowhere near a position of authority
Anon are you conviently forgetting the fact that Nemesis was attacking?
>Nemesis attacks
>Conquer the entire continent in self defense
lol literally the same excuse Israel uses.
>Nemesis was attacking
>- Imperial Year 32: The War of Heroes -
Wilhelm Paul Hresvelg, the inaugural Adrestian Emperor, raised an
army in pursuit of the unification of Fódlan. With his might, he hunted
and destroyed any house's territory that dared to seek more power.
Bro, even the church agrees Wilhelm started it
Really? Because the game says Nemesis did what he did under the pretense of liberating Fodlan
pre·tense
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an attempt to make something that is not the case appear true.
I think that people do meme so hard that they forget they Nemesis was a conqueror.
Isn't the first thing he does when he wakes up is start fricking everything up and beelining for Rhea?
They also did not read the abyss Library which is really funny considering they also put the most stock and the books that the church bans. The 10 Elites were shocked that Seiros spared their children. They had no idea why Seiros was hunting them with the fury she was hunting them with. I don't think the 10 Elites knew what they were signing on for when Nemesis recruited them.
He was a very lax conquerer if he just let Adrestia chill around unmolested with no army for 32 years
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
He conquered the nabataens who currently governed humanity with their dragon powers, that's not a bad thing from the perspective of humanity and is why his epithet is "King of Liberation"
The fact he went full monhun literally beating dragons to death with the bones of their dead relatives is irrelevant to the human perspective
>The fact he went full monhun literally beating dragons to death with the bones of their dead relatives is irrelevant to the human perspective
Claude said that was fricked up
Khalid thinks it's fricked up because he wanted to do that and is mad somebody else had the idea first
Pretense was a Threehouse-ism not present in nip
Get everyone on the same page and rally everyone to face up against Nemesis or do you think that that Nemesis who took over the rest of the continent was satisfied with just that?
So you agree crimson flower Edelgard is completely justified in unifying the continent by force and "getting everyone on the same page" before taking on the slitherers in the epilogue?
The reason Rhea and Edelgard hate each other so much is because they're the same fricking person lmao
You use the same language as him so you make it a bit too obvious and give yourself away. Heck you even get the same shit wrong as him...
>played Silver Snow and realized that even if Jeralt had lived through Kronya's assassination he'd still end up dead when transformed into a White Beast by Rhea's blood pact
Rhea only ends up that way due to her taking literal nukes to the face after being tortured for 5 years. It wasn't anything natural.
>Rhea only ends up that way due to her taking literal nukes to the face after being tortured for 5 years. It wasn't anything natural.
So like most things in the game it is El's or the empire's fault?
It's the blood and a fragment of her creststone in them that caused them to turn when she went haywire.
She's rather composed in Three Hopes.
Okay then I have a question. Point out one single time since the foundation of the Adrestian Empire that Fodlan has ever expanded her borders. Because even with Faerghus's fury at Sreng they never really push into their lands. Even though House Goneril exists to butcher Almyran, Fodlan's Locket has never moved. Hell the only instance of Fodlan acquiring new land comes from the Empire. Long after Rhea relinquished control of it.
Southern Sreng was taken into Faerghus during Lambert's time as king, so not that long before the events of the series.
Fair enough I'll give you that. But that still means that the kingdom was operating independently and that was King Lambert's decision, not the church's. Unless the argument shifts to every time a human being fights a war of expansion it's the result of some Illuminati playing 5D chess.
Brigid is a vassal state of the empire with a captive princess held hostage
>Hell the only instance of Fodlan acquiring new land comes from the Empire. Long after Rhea relinquished control of it.
You mean the empire that Rhea literally founded? Yes. What a surprise that when you personally lead a war of conquest uniting the entire continent that the descendants of those people would imitate their founders.
They're literally just following Rhea and Wilhelm's example
Rhea didn't invent wars of conquest you twit. What the actual frick are you arguing? What's your thesis?
Different guy, but the Empire conquering Brigid doesn't really have anything to do with Rhea and Wilhelm's conqueror spirit and shit, it's just payback for the frickers invading them, and probably to use Brigid as a staging ground again to invade Dagda too in the future, at least until Edelgard got the throne and wanted to make peace with them through working with Petra instead
The Empire, by the time of this invasion, is the place in Fodlan with the least influence from the Central Church. What a coincidence that most of the more fricked up shit comes from the Empire.
You really are a nitwit aren't you? People are responsible for their own decisions. Rhea stop involving herself in politics hundreds of years ago ergo any and all of their decisions are specifically on them.
People have this weird idea about the medieval era where everything was super peaceful and progressive, and that literally every single bad thing in Fodlan are things that never happened in real life, so it is all Rhea’s fault.
A lot of people don't know jack shit about Medival society and how it was built, how it functions, or its history. They just choose to blame the church because it's easier to blame Rhea.
>people are responsible for their own decisions
I agree, Rhea is absolutely responsible for her decisions to propagate a false religion based on lies, unify the continent and establish a royal family bearing her personal crest, and then LARP as a series of successive archbishops with her blood-bonded inner circle operating out of garreg mach.
Meanwhile her much more reasonable brothers are responsible for dozing in the sun like a cat and eating deer while not caring about the war or her church at all. I wonder which one is the good guy?
>I agree, Rhea is absolutely responsible for her decisions to propagate a false religion
Fun fact, Sothis worship predates the Seiros religion
>unify the continent and establish a royal family bearing her personal crest
As apposed to the Elites doing it?
>and then LARP as a series of successive archbishops with her blood-bonded inner circle operating out of garreg mach.
To keep an eye on the contitent. You seem to forget the continent is rather stable with only the Slithers actually fricking things up.
>Meanwhile her much more reasonable brothers are responsible for dozing in the sun like a cat and eating deer while not caring about the war or her church at all. I wonder which one is the good guy?
okay you're just shitposting.
>to keep an eye on the continent
"You don't understand, she HAD to run a israeli reptilian illuminati blood cult and actively meddle with international relations, borders, push a fake religion that's named after and venerates her, and lie to everyone about where crests and relics come from! She was just keeping an eye on things!"
shoo shoo golem, lizards get the rope, Khalid will skin you and turn you into a pair of boots to gift his 3000 wives inshallah
>Khalid will skin you and turn you into a pair of boots to gift his 3000 wives inshallah
>tfw she turned back into a human and then got disintegrated just so I couldn't make designer bags with her leathery skin
It hurts
INSHA'ALLAH, BROTHER
KHALID SHEIKH MUHAMMAD VON RIEGAN, SULTAN OF ALMYRA, EMPEROR OF FODLAN, SWORD OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) WILL PURGE THE WORLD OF INFIDELS AND IDOLATORS
The handling of Christophe is actually the only really fricked up thing the Church has done that I can think of.
>Edelgard's accusation is that the church created the Crest system.
Because they DID you fricking Black person. If you literally teach people through your religion that those with crests are DIVINELY BLESSED UBERMENSCH with a literal god-gifted ability commoners can never attain, you can't act surprised when that results in social hierarchy.
The Nabataens were literally in the same position as Crest holders were before the world got nuked, Rhea has absolutely no way of pretending she didn't know the crest system would result from her lies about where they come from. In fact, a thousand years ago she went out of her way to give HER crest to a literal emperor and allow him to unify the continent with its power.
How can you look at Rhea literally being a former dragon-governor of Nabatean civilization who later empowers an emperor to conquer the entire continent and say "ohhhh she didn't mean for crests to be a higher social class she dindu nuffin" you stupid frick
>If you literally teach people through your religion that those with crests are DIVINELY BLESSED UBERMENSCH with a literal god-gifted ability commoners can never attain, you can't act surprised when that results in social hierarchy.
And you think this wouldn't happen if the church didn't exist?
You're fricking moronic if you think the apes with super human abilities wouldn't naturally rise to the top of the social order if the Church didn't go around teaching everyone that they're special
If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently. Especially since most people have minor crests that don't provide very much benefit. This argument has always been dumb since MAGIC exists in 3 Houses and the entire world isn't a magocracy, there's still tons of bureaucrats and paper pushers and academics, look at Linhardt and his father, their crest is utterly worthless in terms of gorilla homie "might makes right"
Again, you're huffing copium and sidestepping the question: "WELL SHE LIED AND MADE THE CREST SYSTEM BUT IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ANYWAYS!" is full on damage control. What about literally giving her blood to the founder of the adrestian empire and personally establishing a crest-based imperial dominion over the continent lmao
>since most people have minor crests that don't provide very much benefit.
laughs in tard strength
>If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children they would be reasonable
They wouldn't since the pros of using them outweigh the cons. Crests can give people a huge boost in physical or magical abilities.
>there's still tons of bureaucrats and paper pushers and academics, look at Linhardt and his father, their crest is utterly worthless in terms of gorilla homie "might makes right"
You can be a noble without a crest. The crest gives you a boost in physical or magical abilities hence why they are prized by nobles.
Also, Linhardt's crest isn't useless. It boosts Might stats which can be translated to lore perspective as being useful for combat.
>WELL SHE LIED AND MADE THE CREST SYSTEM
The crests were created by Nemesis and his ten elites. Rhea just lied about their creations.
>Muh crest system
Oh my lord. There is no crest system. You can be a noble without a crest. They are prized by everyone because they gave you a huge boost. Even the minor ones.
Just the play the game you fricking moron and think instead of reading another post from Tumblr.
>There is no crest system
lol
okay bro, why does Dimitri go out of his way to make sure he tries to reform the oppressive crest system in the endings of Azure Moon if the crest system doesn't exist?
Are you going to literally ignore the chapter narration too now? This is just sad.
Because he took over the Empire's territory where crest abuse is rampant.
please remind me who founded the adrestian empire and who have them their crest?
concession accepted lmao
crest abuse is not the same as crest system. It's just a form of power abuse.
Hell The Four Apostles whole thing was them being the exceptions. Learning the truth of their Crests lead them to ally with the Saints, and Aubin hated himself for drinking innocent dragons blood he chose to live in Abyss for 1000 years.
Where did that come from?
>Aubin hated himself for drinking innocent dragons blood
Aubin was a scalie, otherwise his blood wouldn't have done the exact same thing Rhea's and the other murdered dragons blood did
Have any of the Elites had someone drink their blood in the same way? It's entirely possible that crests can be passed from crested humans like that.
Just drink blood there is no way it just passes like that
Do we know anyone who tried it?
Yes some Anon drinked his waifus blood.
Well speaking of FE4. That's atleast how the 12 crusaders got their superpl powers. So there is some precedent in the series for drinking dragon blood.
Aubin is a human. All four Apostles were human.
We don’t know what they have going on, but Aubin only lived for a long time and was an old man when Yuris mother saved him, and he used a “mysterious cure” to heal Yuri before he dies. That means two things:
1. The Apostles Chevalier and Aubin kept dragon blood on them.
Or
2. 1st Gen Crestbearers can pass on 1st Gen Crests to others.
The process has a 50/50 chance of working as Chevaliers blood rituals show. Half the people disappeared. The other half were 1st Gen creastbearers.
Only the Saints were dragons, and atone of Comely Saints revealed there was a sixth Saint in Luca. Who is likely dead as he’s one of the names Golems in Crimson Flower like Wilhelm or Chevalier.
>If people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently.
Black person, is this your first time on planet earth? Humans do terrible things to each other for a better chance in life all the time
>magic
Hanneman/Alois support directly states having a crest makes you better at magic on average.
>m-minor crests dont matter!
They still allow people to use relics with relative safety and Dimitri is stronger than a gorilla.
>if people knew that crests were ripped from the corpses of Sothis's children and that they were actually somewhat dangerous weapons that can corrupt or have negative impacts on their bearers they would feel very differently.
Lol
I love Arval
Canon
Claude is a walking meme in this game
Whatever do you mean, curiosity-inducing anon?
Monica will never be real. It hurts so much, bros.
The weird thing is that in chapter 7 Monastery dialogue Hilda remarks that it's weird for Monica to be acting like her normal self considering the trauma she's been through. Which really should have been our first warning that Monica has always been like this
what route? i've just finished the scarlet blaze.
Hilda doesn't know anything about Monica though, she'd have gotten even more sus for no reason had real Monica been the one that was truly rescued, and she honed in on Edelgard's clam like is her wont
>Which really should have been our first warning that Monica has always been like this
We had no reason to think Monica was Edelsexual. We just saw it as Kronya not even trying to act like Monica.
Monica can’t survive in a world without Edelgard
hey rhea was unlockable. but her moveset is kinda lame. ill stick to dancer marianne
Is it just me or is the entire Swordmaster-Mortal Savant Line kinda shit unless the AI is using it?
Some class actions just don't seem to combo with their own movesets.
unless its holst boosted, somehow i feel its very bland when compare to the axe smashers such as hilda
Felix plays amazing, though.
It's just you bro. The Mortal Savant line has a pretty sick launch combo, do YYYYX, and then use the fast charge X to catch them with the multiple slashes while they're airborne. Start your combo with windsweep/firesweep to ensure commanders' guards are broken.
And if that's still not enough, the animations of YYYYX are relatively quick, so you can dodge out whenever.
Hey Ceth-Flayn, could you imagine a world where I led a genocidal campaign against your people to end racism? No? Neither could I haha.
>Seteth never learned of their relationship
>Claude never actually married Flayn and left her as a concubine
lmao
Flayn enjoyed her lesbian phase with Khalid's other wives.
It's pretty rad, though I wish the awakened form also had Epimenedis front horn
It feels like Epimenides doesn't realize how fricking evil his brethren have become or is completely blind to their faults.
He actually covers nemesis' retreat while the rest would never do so and all act like backstabbing buttholes hating their own allies.
He says he finds Thales shit distasteful, so he probably isn't aware of how badly the guy's screwed the pooch over the last millenia
Seriously love Three Hopes but I really hate that these new Muso have pretty much no endgame content compared to the previous games. I remember Hyrule Warriors 1 had some sort of retro maps you could explore after finishing the game, Fire Emblem Warriors 1 also had some sort of similar stuff with old battles or something like that, and it was really cool. Idk it probably took them more time to develop the 3 campaign for each lords in Three Hopes, but just ramping up the difficulty level at the record keeper isn't really a good motivation for me to want to grind all the skills or even try the new characters.
Do you think Rhea needs to die as a dragon to make a sweet weapon out of her corpse, or can we rip out her (human shaped) femur and make a nice knife out of it?
I really like the design of Shez's Asura outfit. Am I alone in this?
No you're not. I like the kind of ornate cape that comes with it
It actually makes me wish we could force characters to use their class outfits during camp. I'd love to run around in it.
It looks like a ten year olds idea of a cool edgy swordsman.
I know, it makes my inner kid squee.
Is the guard any good in this game? I know I can even perfect guard and that some skills (that actually look really good) are tied to this mechanic, but who fricking use the guard instead of simply dodging?
>the church's supposed anti-foreign relations policy isn't mentioned or even hinted to be a possible problem in the Sreng paralogue
wow it's almost like it doesn't exist
Garreg Mach has a 15 ft foreign idol in there basement for the people of Abyss to worship. That would be like going to the Vatican, going down a set of stairs, and finding a statue of the Buddha sitting there. And when you ask the bishop about it he says he's fine with it so long as their worship doesn't interrupt the parishioners that are there to speak with the Pope. The amount of religious freedom you're allowed within the central Church is obscene. The only thing they ask you to do is not try to kill them or take their shit
Church folk aren't welcome in Abyss and most of the church followers and the people there hate each other
Yes the church clergy and Abyssians hate one another. But Rhea won't allow them to be purged either. It's not like they have a holy crusade planned, the church tolerates them so long as they don't interfere with the worship of the rest of the parishioners.
Didn't the DLC reveal that the ill will came from the Slithers?
No
Wrong. Abysskeeper and Mr Backup are bros
That's what the word most is for
Rhea's cult literally banishes all non-believers to the literal Abyss and rheatrannies will claim this is religious freedom because she didn't burn them at the stake
you are fricked in the head
There's also the matter of Albinean moose meat being an item, Albinean seeds and berries being greenhouse items, Morfis plums and seeds also being greenhouse items, a battalion trained in Morfis being recruitable in every route, Shamir being in Fodlan, Shamir being highly respected with no discrimination in Fodlan, and Shamir loving Exotic Spices that come from a land east of Almyra. The church also adopted Cyril and treated him better than House Goneril did, and unless she has the strongest tan in the world, Catherine is probably of mixed race.
Claude is full of shit in that line. IMO, it's showing how he's gone off the rails and his allies have lost the individual will and spirit to speak out against nonsense, thereby losing a defining trait they had in Three Houses.
How would he go about the war?
>Benedict's schemes + Dimitri's boar strength
The war would be over in 3 months tops
Also, I'm just realizing that Hyzante actually does most of the fricked up shit Edelgard accuses the church of Seiros of doing
>Hyzante actually does most of the fricked up shit Edelgard accuses the church of Seiros of doing
The utility route left a bad taste in my mouth but Roland's "It is" to Frederica was kino, he might have been suggesting something utterly cruel but he wasn't making excuses for it. Too bad they undermined the conviction routes with the golden ending.
Benedict and Roland were to based for this entire genre.
I'm on the last chapter of GW and holy frick I feel like I'm losing my mind. Every single point Claude has against the Church is bullshit, I don't want to to do it. I didn’t sign up for this. Frick you Claude
just turn off the game bro
Stop being a b***h and just finish the video game, you big baby
Return the arrow, complete the circle. Finish his work Claude.
I see people claim Hopes is better written than Houses. I wonder how they even come to that conclusion. No flow to the story and half the story is based on logical flaws.
Because execution matters most at the end of the day, and Houses execution was dog shit
And Hopes even more so.
Not in the slightest
That it doesn't waste a lifetime on SoL garbage that is utterly irrelevant to the remaining half of the game, already makes it better by default
Hopes is shit and you're still in the honeymoon phase and can't see it for what it is.
>Hopes is shit muh honeymoon phase
Cope, houseBlack person
Hope's story is shit, it's only redeeming factor is the lore building but it somehow managed to make a story even more shitty than 3 Houses.
Are you autistic or some crazy Byleth self-inserter? It’s literally Coke vs Pepsi different flavours of the same thing
Nah I'm just someone with fricking taste, 3 Copes is a pointless story with no end. I could say the same about you are just some brainless Shezgay or do you just hate Byleth and think that anyone who dislikes Copes has to like Byleth?
And yet it did it.
>but it somehow managed to make a story even more shitty than 3 Houses.
White Clouds getting excised makes that impossible
The fact that hopes has zero white clouds filler makes it the better game alone.
It's not better, you just think it's better because it's new.
Because it's new and they're blinded by the fact that it's a shiny new thing that they aren't judging how good product is. Basically it's the honeymoon phase.
>half the story is based on logical flaws.
When the main character is a lair that's not a logical flaw at all, just a why have a terrible person at the helm
>Every single point Claude has against the Church is bullshit,
Lol churchtrannies are literally tryingg to debunk the game's characters, they think they know the game's lore better than the writers who wrote it
I'm going to say it. Rhea is OBJECTIVELY supposed to be evil. Regardless of player interpretation, it is the intention of the writers. How can you tell? Take one damn look at her true form. It's fricking hideous.
>But it's a dragon, you can't judge how it looks!
Nonsense. Dragons can be regal, they can be majestic. Dragons can be goddamn beautiful. Meanwhile The Immaculate One looks like a pitbull with wings. And no, it's not meant to be ironic. Japan does not do irony, what you see is what you get. Just look at how the male Slitherers are all vile abominations with bulging heads.
Indech and Macuil are fricking cute.
>Indech and Maculi do not support Rhea's decisions or the church and want absolutely nothing to do with the war, also choosing to maintain their true form rather than masquerading in a human skin-suit
>They're cute chicken and turtle dragons with natural earthy tone color palettes resembling actual animals rather than the ivory abomination of the Immaculate One, who also warps people into junji ito flesh monsters during Silver Snow
really makes you think
church gays are unbelievable though, I did black eagles my first playthrough and made a save before the big decision, it's hilarious that Rhea is literally the fricking final boss EVEN WHEN YOU SIDE WITH HER.
Macuil hates humans and his response to Lambert ducking up his attempts at peace talks with Sreng so badly they started fighting was to pull out his magic shotgun, yell “GET OFF MY LAWN”, “FRICK HUMANS”, and “BOTH SIDES” as he started firing at Srengs chieftain that he sent him to his death and injured Lambert badly enough to retreat.
Good, frick this game, frick you trannies and ship fans for supporting garbage. have a nice day.
I was wondering how Gankerschizos were coping with how much gay bait is in this game. I see I have an answer.
Cutesythea
Does Thyrsus enhance Spell Combat arts or only Tome attacks?
Wow the Hopes datamine has some fairly interesting stuff. Excluding secret characters and HP (because HP would inflate the values), Edelgard actually has the highest base stats at level 120 at 522, followed by Claude at 513. Dimitri comes in at 9th place, however, he does have the highest base strength at 85. His low placement is because he favors HP, he's the only character among the top 20 to break 7000 HP. Meanwhile, Edelgard is highest because her strength and magic are both extremely high, she has the 2nd highest base strength at 79 with the 8th highest base magic at 70.
Why does Edelgard have highest charisma.
Same reason why Claude has the second highest charisma, both of them managed to charm their allies into doing dumb shit. When you're 7-8 points clear of your next highest competitor, you know the game is trying to tell you something
He was robbed
>He was right on everything about Claude
>if you don't do the secret passage strategem, Gustave and Annette die both die, rather than the former rescuing the latter before you gut him
well ok, though it's kind of pointless since it's not like you can even recruit Annette
So you get a crest bound hammer to Annette's crest, and don't get Annette, thus no one can use it without taking damage?
Anyone with a crest can use a relic without taking damage
You can use it with any crest but there’s no point. Even when fully upgraded and unleashed you probably have better axes like Hauteclere
man that hammer is so shit
I tried to build Annette into using it but it's just bad
>about to retake Garreg Mach
>have so many support ranks left to grind
>including the Deer guests that may leave at any time
damn
Why do people grind supports? It's not fun. I would leave them for ng+ or just watch the conversations on YouTube
The Blue Lions have like 10 route exclusives which means there are a lot of conversations you can only do on that route
Because some characters are route exclusive or can lock up if you don't do them soon enough
Are Black Eagles and Golden Deers even worth playing or is it like Three Houses where the Blue Lions is the only route with somewhat competent writing?
yeah, pretty muc. ALthough I do suggest you play the deers route just to be in on all the hip new memes
It's just that I don't like the Golden Deers very much and I expect the story to just be "fight the empire again but this time on the east front".
Sorry, I meant very competent writing.
You actually fight the Empire in the first half, and then ally with them to fight the Kingdom & Chuch in the second half. You also deal with the Almyran threat.
It is also the best route.
>and then ally with them to fight the Kingdom
Alright I guess I'm just not going to play the other routes then.
>Blue Lions
>somewhat competent writing
lmao
>Fire Emblem
>Somewhat competent writing
fixed it for you
now talk about your waifus.
FE1/3 are unironically much more competently written than 3H
They both start strong but really drop the ball in part two. I was really enjoying GW up to the Shahid chapter.
What are the crest/sacred weapons in the game available in SB? need to plan classes ahead
how about stop being a metagay and use the characters and classes you like the most?
You get relics/sacred weapons for everything but lances and swords, and for lances you do get a lance as good as a relic from the start through Jeritza
All of them are inferior to the legacy weapons regardless
The crest owners have a RESPONSIBILITY to be good while controlling every crestlet in the crest system.
This is totally not a crest system though
>Uncle Ben's speech was actually telling Peter to control the people of New York
Jesus Christ, Raimi.
>Ignatz/Marianne support has her mention bringing Ingrid along
>on GW
Is it because I'm on NG+ so the game considers Ingrid recruited? That seems like an oversight.
>it is not an evil crest system that everyone outside the cult claims it to be, it is actually a good crest system!
>Bad thing is EVIL: debunked
>Bad thing is GOOD because it has good intentions: True
Rheatrannies literally use fact checker argumentative tactics now, they are so fricked in the head
Edelgard's goal is moronic because crests will still exist and will still give descendants of nobility great power over the normal people
you don't understand anon. all the people with crests will be rounded up and gassed in edelgard' brave new world. This is the final solution for the crest problem and the only way there can be peace in fodlan
Including herself? Finally a goal I can get behind
Hey as long as she is included in that list then I'll support her. After all her world is all about equality.
>Edelgard did nothing wrong
>Claude is now the biggest moron in Three Houses
>only fujos still give a frick about Dimitri
So what was the point of this spinoff? Make Edelgard good and Claude a joke?
Make Claude a proper character, show the actual war the timeskip skipped over
>Crest hierarchy and discrimination is EVIL: debunked
>Crest hierarchy and discrimination is GOOD because it has good intentions: True
Do Rheagays also debunk Rhea's own apology for her manipulation and tyranny?
>Rhea admits she did plenty of wrong, manipulating, deceiving, lying, unspeakable human experiments, and she was to blame for the war.
Most rheagays are just AM one routers with some headcanon about her since she doesn't appear in their side route, Rheagays never played SS they don't know about this
>inb4 SS written by Hubert to vindicate Edelgard
no? Why would there be any reason to debunk the fact that she feels guilty for manipulating history?
That line is about her regrets that, even if it created a morality system, she told a lie about the Crests' origin, as well as if she might have missed something while trying to revive Sothis. It's not saying she oppressed the world or built a caste system. She even hired Hanneman and funds his research to render Crests irrelevant.
>and funds his research to render Crests irrelevant.
That's never stated to be a thing she's involved in
His supports reveal that working at the church lets him study the Crests, Crest Stones, etc. there. He doesn't say or imply he's doing so illegally.
His research goals are known only to himself and whoever he bothers to tell, to everyone else he's just a kooky scientist fascinated by crests and relics
that's your headcanon. nothing implies what you've said
If the church were well aware of his goals and desires, then Seteth wouldn't be so craby and unwilling to help with his research
also your headcanon. nothing even implies what you're saying
>their support is now headcanon
Whatever you say
>man who's hiding his identity doesn't want get involved in any experiments
>THAT MEANS THAT THE EXPERIMENTS ARE SHADY
ok
>initially only willing to help Hanneman to get him off his back, and eventually to keep him away from Flayn
That's definitely a man who knows about Hanneman's distaste for crest society and desire to bring equality for all, which Rhea was supporting from the start, indeed
it doesn't matter whether hanneman's goal are good or not. if information about seteth's identity got out it would attract unwanted attention. Are you being an obtuse homosexual for the sake of your disingenuous argument, or are you just moronic?
Except he acts like a salty b***h even over just giving him regular crest related reseach material, and never shows any sort of positivity over the fruits of his research, when we know he doesn't approve of society's current track
Not that anon, but that's not a sign of anything. Considering who Seteth is and why he's hiding his identity even if he did know he still likely wouldn't want to help, because it would create more questions.
>it's whine about how X is evil and moronic hours
Oh joy
Nick is awake and is probably angry now that even reddit disagrees with him.
Can someone edit this to say Edeltards?
why does Edelgard love to lick Bernadetta feet?
>Rhea: "I did a lot of fricked up shit - I was wrong and my actions resulted into a pointless war
>Rheagays: "No, you dumb b***h - You never did anything wrong - Everyone else is the problem now please sit on my face"
Is it really that hard to understand she did some bad things but not the bad things Hopes accuses her of
This is literally fact checkers trying to debunk when one of the elites makes a slip of the tongue, like when Bill gates said he wants to reduce the world's population
Why is Shez, specifically MShez, so unpopular?
The design is just bad, he looks like he'd be a protagonist from a forgettable cookie cutter shonen anime in the 2000s
Because you have bizarre standards on popularity
it's his internalized bylethogyny speaking
Female versions tend already to be more popular than the male counterpart(for obvious reasons), but in Shez case the female design also fits better with the dumb personality of the character.
Also look how cute she is in her academy uniform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iQ-AYV3g_Q
Shit design couple with bland and forgettable personality,The devs were trying to play it safe with both Shez and Arval characters which sadly both ended up as bland
Overly bland yet also too much like an OC donut steel that was seemingly thought up by a 10 year old.
Though Shez is not edgy, he is chill
>Wake up
>Open Fire Emblem thread on Ganker
>Half the thread is hidden
>Close Fire Emblem thread on Ganker
>Go back to sleep
i'll come back when edelchizo takes his meds
Discuss.
reddit-tier meme. frick off
This bait needs to stop being spammed, I swear to christ
I love Sothis
I want Sothis to use me like a glove!
Let Sothis in you for a day, and you in Sothis for another day!
Praise the Progenitor God!
Sothis is an alien, not a god
God is an alien
how do people right this cringe?
you're cringe
don't try to belittle god
I want her to use me as a chair.
>Claim: "Bill Gates said he wants to reduce the world's population"
>False! Bill Gates actually said he wants to reduce the world's OVERpopulation!
>Claim: "Rhea admits she spread false history, manipulated the Sothis believers, conducted human experiments for personal gain and caused a war"
>False! Rhea actually said she did all these crimes for GOOD INTENTIONS!
This is literally fact checkers trying to debunk when one of the elites makes a slip of the tongue, like when Bill gates said he wants to reduce the world's population
2022 Liberal World Order:
>Claim: "Bill Gates said he wants to reduce the world's population"
>Fact Checkers: False! Bill Gates actually said he wants to reduce the world's OVERpopulation!
Three Houses:
>Claim: "Rhea admits she spread false history, manipulated the Sothis believers, conducted human experiments for personal gain and caused a war"
>Church cultists: False! Rhea actually said she did all these crimes for GOOD INTENTIONS!
Rhea will NEVER be playable!
AHAHAHAHAAH
Hye guys, Byleth here, just got back from Three Houses
Is it true Churchcultists now claim Claude's route was also written by Hubert and Claude is just manipulated by the Slithers like they said about CF?
Rheagays feel betrayed now that Hopes doubled down on her villainy by having every character oppose her and she doesn't even get a cameo
She's a church leader in a modern JRPG, poor girl never stood a chance.
M-maybe they'll give her a DLC route that's actually unique this time
is there a point in dumping stat boosters? also is there a level cap?
So has Rhea been Archbishop for a thousand years? What about Seteth and Flayn?
Why hasn't anyone questioned why the Archbishop never changes?
You'd think people would notice that Flayn never ages too
Play the game. Seteth and Flayn only came to monastery after Jeralt left.
okay that still doesn't explain the immortal archbishop
she probably changes her looks. Or it's just a plothole
She changes her look, Sylvain has a painting of the previous archbishop who looks similar to Rhea but with different hair.
>be eternal milf Archbishop that rules for 80 years
>disappear one day
>new Archbishop is chosen
>looks just like the old archbishop but she has a ponytail instead
>"Hello, my name is Archbishop Breah"
>She changes her look
the brings up a whole bunch of other problems though? You can't just disappear, change your look, come back and be like "'sup, i'm your new pope". Even if the archbishop position of the church of seiros isn't an elected role like in catholic church, and can be appointed, you still gotta have a certain level of influence in the church instead of being a literal who. Gotta have connections, shae hands, have tea with the acting archbishop and other cleric. And Rhea can't be in two place at once
The cardinals, who no one knows the true identities of, can just bullshit that the new archbishop was a promoted member of their rank, and if she happens to mysteriously resemble the last archbishop, well that's just a matter of them being related to each other
It's not like there's anyone who'll live long enough to realize that's a crock of shit, outside their long lived circle
It's not like Archbishop's position is only for a woman (think Bernadaddy) and nobody questioned that for so many years?
This is the same game where Mercedes recognises her brother based on his voice despite a mask filtering it and her brother being 9 when she left.
Don’t put too much thought into it because the writers clearly didn’t.
Probably
No
She has a really good PR team around to cover the facts, though some things slip by considering Ignatz and Sylvain find a portrait of the old archbishop 200 years ago and notice she just so happens to resemble it
She and Seteth only come to the church somewhat recently
>So has Rhea been Archbishop for a thousand years?
She said under different guises
>What about Seteth and Flayn?
Flayn and Seteth live in a remote location in Central Fodlan, Flayn requires long periods of sleep due to overtaxing her young body during the War of Heroes.
>Why hasn't anyone questioned why the Archbishop never changes?
They don't because Rhea uses different guises, and it's well known that high ranking Church officials live stupid long.
>You'd think people would notice that Flayn never ages too
She hasn't been out of the house in hundreds of years
I like the world of 3 Houses
Hope we get another game set in Brigid and Dagda
Dancer is pretty shit ngl
It's fun for Byleth because Divine Pulse. Otherwise the Dancer is completely useless because enemies constantly interrupt your spins
i should have dump all stat upgrade to shez, wtf i cant reset my item stats...
>Shez can oneshot 90% of enemies without even using stat items even on hard mode
god she's so broken
What are some builds that you've taken as your head canon for what the characters should be?
For me it's
Hapi: Warrior/Great Knight
Marianne: Holy Knight
Ingrid: Holy Knight
Leonie: Bow knight (The game has her preferred path as a holy knight for some reason)
Manuela: Trickster
Edelgard: Wyvern Lord
God, I want the other houses DLC classes. Plus hero, just because it looks cool.
>Manuela: Trickster
she would a be a top tier trickster and support if her magic wasn't so fricking shit. she'd better thn lysithea
That implies Lysithea is good
yeah... lysithea is a noobtrap. mostly due to having access to horse-bane magic almost from the get go
your head canon is moronic, anon-kun. except for manuela.
Sylvain: Dark Knight. Not sure why they made his specialty Holy especially since Rodrigue has it too.
>Marianne: Holy Knight
dancer only for me
Caspar is meant to become a Warmaster like daddy, and crack heads with Jarngreipr
in 3h I make him a warmaster, raise his lances skill to S+ and use Scythe of Sariel. Because he earned it dammit
>Marianne: Holy Knight
based, with her hopes design she literally appears as some depressed female knight trying to cope with her existence. It's a kino aesthetic
This is the image I wanted to post. My cute Marianne. My cute smelly little depresso wife...
>Ingrid Holy Knight
Thank frick someone else does this. Am I the only one that just doesn't like flying classes? They feel so corny to me. Just give a cute girl on a regular horse and not some flying bullshit. Ingrid looks way cooler as a regular knight anyways
I don't like going cav route with Leonie, even if that's the "canon" class. It's such a waste of her superb speed stat.
Leonie learns Point Blank Volley, speed is irrelevant on her.
>noooo not the -1 speed every ten levels on average
Leonie on a fast class can double most enemies on EP and destroy entire groups of enemies by herself.
And she still has PBV for the few enemies she can't double naturally like assassins and swordmasters.
>-1 speed every ten levels on average
More like 2/3 every 10 levels because it's +10/+20 vs -10, and an extra flat difference for 4-6 from class modifiers, and maybe more from the skill slot you free by not having to take hit+20 so you can actually hit something with your increased range as a bow knight. And flier movement is far better than cav movement.
>Leonie on a fast class can double most enemies on EP and destroy entire groups of enemies by herself.
>not getting Hit +20
Ah okay, we are talking about Hard mode. Just leave her in Commoner in that case, it literally doesnt matter what you do in that difficulty.
Literally all my playthroughs were on maddening.
Turns out you don't need hit+20 when you don't fall for the extra range meme.
>noooo why did i miss this 70 accuracy PBV
There is objectively no reason not to get Hit +20 on everyone, unless you hate reliability.
>Ever having hit issues with PBV
They only characters I ever had hit issues with are Hilda if you keep axes on her and Lysithea with her stronger spells until she gets a good hit battalion.
Gotta give Marianne the lance that scales with MAG as well and she hits like a dumptruck
I hate Constance
why? Also frick you.
I think she's really annoying
Her depressed side is alright
She needs daddy husband
hopes character skins for 3 houses when?
dlc when
when schizo-kun takes his meds
Slithers route when? I want to return Fodlan to its rightful owners.
>Order ally to kill a unit
>Literally finish the entire mission before they can kill them
What is even the point of having other units? They are fricking worthless and do nothing.
That's why they get a 30% damage bonus when ordered to attack which I think is multiplicative with triangle advantage, they're not as good as the player but they can at least hold enemies and stop them from running away or killing green units you have to protect
Shez is also ridiculously overpowered especially early game so you'll be mowing through multiple commanders with his combos before they can come close to killing one
>his
Shez and Byleth protagonist selfcest is the best part of 3 Hopes
Male Byleth and Female Shez are the best options
both femlae avatars look moronic and ugly. manleth and dick cheese it is
FemShez looks better than ManShez
Femlyth looks absolutely moronic
Incorrect
>FemShez looks better than ManShez
not with that hair lol
Better than manshez in every single way
From looks, to personality, to voice acting
Male Shez is objectively better than Female Shez and her Essence of Darkness-less ass
Still warm have your fun bernie bro
why couldn't they "buff" lysithea?
Hilda and Marianne already fill the titcow quota
There can never be too many
They need a mix of flatties and cowbreasts
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
Leonie too
I would cum in my pants from staring at those breasts
Lysithea is flat FLAAAAAAAAAT
Each house needs a flat wife.
petiteness is just another curse for her to live with
AAAAAHHH I WANT A SOTHIS GF
>ryan gosling.jpg
AAAAAHHH I WANT A SOTHIS GF THAT BULLIES ME
109 you stupid e-girl and this game needs more seggs
What carries over into NG+?
Basically everything
I liked Ingrid better when she was an unapologetic racist
Yes, Sylvain tought her how to twirl that lance, if you catch my drift
Today I will remind them
>diversity means everyone is ugly and mentally unwell
i miss the times when diversity meant "people with different life experiences and skills"
Americans are grotesque.
>artist also did one with the Blue Lions
>Ingrid is the most normal looking one of the bunch
These people still judge Ingrid for being little miss racist and never look beyond the surface level. Ingridbros, we dodged a fricking bullet with these psychopaths!
Damn not gonna lie, I shed a tear when I had to kill Ingrid. She was one of my favorite characters. I wanted to save her bros.
I hope you killed her with Ashe.
you will never have Edelgards blessing to marry Monica. it hurts so much bors...
>But Anon, Edelgard doesn't have to know about this.
What would happen if Edelgard told Monica to sit on my face
She sits on your face?
What would happen if Edelgard told Monica had to be bred by the Ashen Demon as part of the empire’s new super soldier program?
i lover her so much!
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>>(FEH) Fire Emblem Heroes
>>(FE15) Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
>>(FEW) Warriors (3DS & Switch)
>>(FE16) Three Houses
- character modding/swapping & Sothis, Rhea and any other NPCs playable in combat
>>(FEW3H) Warriors: Three Hopes
- Yuzu users - follow the step #1 of the Ryujinx setup
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>>(Kaga Saga) TearRing Saga: Utna Heroes Saga
>>(Kaga Saga) TearRing Saga: Berwick Saga
>>(Kaga Saga) Vestaria Saga I
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>FAQ:
Can I emulate <insert an FE title>?
- pre-3DS/3DS titles - Most likely yes.
- Switch titles - https://yuzu-emu.org/help/quickstart/#hardware-requirements
Can I transfer save files from <insert device> to an emulator?
- Yes. Check the "Extras" of the "Emulator resources" section.
>It's the Church's fault Fodlan has bad relations!
Or maybe it's the fact that Fodlan's neighbours are a bunch of c**ts? Seriously, Hopes has made me hate Claude so much.
>Almyra
Have a warrior culture that glorifies killing people for no reason. Their entire leadership succession is based on who has the most impressive military feats. They've attacked Fodlan hundreds of times completely unprovoked and according to Hilda every alliance they've ever made with Almyra has been betrayed by the Almyrans.
>Sreng
Invaded the Kingdom first 200 years ago. It is hard to solve their relations though because both the Kingdom and Sreng are competing over scarce resources.
>Dagda and Brigid
Literally invaded out of nowhere for no reason and then razed an entire region of Fodlan to the ground, butchering Constance's entire family.
>Duscur
Funnily enough, this is the one foreign country a region of Fodlan was trying to improve relations with. And it was the Kingdom, the nation with the closest ties to the Church of Seiros. Claude must be a complete moron if he doesn't know that the Kingdom were already trying to improve relations with Duscur 20 years ago under Lambert but then got Slither'd, that's the whole reason Lambert was even in Duscur in the first place.
What the actual frick did they mean by this? How is the Church to blame for any of this? It feels like something they pulled out of their ass to give Claude a reason to be anti-Church when all of the prior worldbuilding paints Fodlan's neighbours as huge buttholes. There are basically no historical accounts that show any of the Fodlan nations as aggressors against foreign territory.
Fodlan doesn't have time to be aggressors because they're too busy slaughtering one another because the church used dragon blood steroids to forcibly unite the continent a thousand years ago and have been fighting and splintering from that moronic decision ever since
Gee I wonder who was responsible for that little oopsie? What's the adrestian family crest again...? Oh........
>because they're too busy slaughtering one another
they're not though. There hasn't been a war since alliance broke away. which is what 200 years? Pretty good run.
>because they're too busy slaughtering one another
they've had about 3 wars with each other in the last 1000+ years and haven't had one in 200 years at the start of the game
There was one MAJOR war, do you "fodlan is a nation of peace!" morons just completely ignore that all three factions are in a constant cold war with one another and frequent border skirmishes to the point BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries prior to the game's events?
Fodlan is at """""peace""""""" in the same way that the U.S has never officially declared war since World War 2. Jeralt has been slaughtering people for DECADES as a professional mercenary that's renowned across the entire continent for frick's sake.
Skirmishes between noble in a nation is not equivalent to war with another. All of the conflicts, outside of Ordelia and the Empire, are between nobles under one nation. That's more like states fighting and the church had nothing to do with that
welcome to medieval europe, moron
it's still no less unstable than the other nations in fodlan's world
so are you arguing that fodlan should more united or more fractured? First you mald over rhea uniting fodlan thousand years ago, but now you seethe that fractured foldan countries are still on not exactly friendly turns. So which one is it schizo-kun?. ALso
>three factions are in a constant cold war with one another
can you provide examples? of that?
>BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries
from what we saw they were mostly fighting bandits. also, as other anon mentioned opportunistic nobles fighting each other isn't the same as contried going into an all out war.
It's not a binary "more unified" or "more fractured", the entire point is that it was unsustainably unified by force because Rhea is fricking moronic and used her dragon dick to fill Wilhelm full of magic cum and then wage a war of conquest a thousand years ago that still informs the current state of the continent's politics. It was unified half-wienered without a plan, fractured apart, now has constant fighting both internally WITHIN the 3 factions, fighting BETWEEN the factions, and also fighting against external threats because the world of Houses/Hopes actually exists besides the immediate surroundings of the protagonist unlike Fates.
The point is that Rhea should NOT be the one trying to solve these fricking problems because she's a crazy frickup and the Adrestian empire is literally her doing, as is crest-based social hierarchy because she pranked everyone into thinking moleman bioweapons are a sign Jesus loves you.
She should go shit in the woods like the wild animal she is like her brothers Indech and Maculi do. The moral message of 3 Houses is "women should not hold power" lmao
>frequent border skirmishes to the point BOTH protagonists in Houses and Hopes are blood-soaked mercenaries prior to the game's events?
Right because this would never happen in Dagda where Shamir outright says there are mercenary groups large enough that they've become actual nation states and Almyra that has constant battles and succession crises.
There's literally nothing exceptional about Fodlan's circumstances. There are also examples of the Fodlan countries clearly not being in a cold war and co-operating like the construction of Fodlan's Throat or the fact they all agree to go to the same United Nations-esque school.
>are in a constant cold war with one another
what the actual frick are you talking about
What exactly do you think Jeralt was doing when he went from one battlefield to another, constantly, for DECADES, killing and killing and killing and killing for almost a goddamn century?
killing bandits
killing monsters
you do know mercenaries aren't exclusive to fodlan right?
Nobles have their own private armies and he was from Faerghus where everything tries to kill you. It's kill or be killed
>claims fodlan nations are in a state of cold war
>cites the existance of mercenaries as proof
do you understand the defnition of "cold war", anon?
Cold Wars still have fighting and border skirmishes you moron especially through proxies, literally half the fighting between Alliance nobles is between those who support the kingdom or the empire
so what proxies were the three nations using? Please give exmples. As well as examples of border skirmishes
It's peaceful for a medieval setting, yes. And more peaceful than its aggressive neighbours.
So we agree that edelgard is a moron in wanting to unite fodlan under the same banner again? Good
>Fodlan doesn't have time to be aggressors because they're too busy slaughtering one another because the church used dragon blood steroids to forcibly unite the continent a thousand years ago and have been fighting and splintering from that moronic decision ever since
Nemesis and his cronies were wholesale slaughtering people left and right with the powers they stole.
According to the church
And yet even the church tinted history notes it was the Empire that raised an army and began aggressions with Nemesis, which meant the latter had not done anything to them even as they existed as a separate political entity for 30+ years, and Nemesis and his band were beloved enough by the people that Rhea had to settle with treating them as (former) Heroes, rather than going all the way with the slander
>Nemesis and his band were beloved enough by the people
citation needed
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
Dev interview
>nobody responded to this post
lmao
church simps are so predictable. they demand a source, get corrected with literally developer word of god, then go radio silent trying to ignore the facts that don't fit their argument.
Dragon bad. Silver Snow ends with Rhea either a fricking corpse or kept as a bimbo broodmare while abdicating all power to the Mary Sue protagonist who's literally the second coming of God. Either way even her own goddamn route isn't stupid enough to trust her with more responsibility than what lingerie to wear for Byleth.
I would imagine their titles alone speak to people' mysticism and elevation to legend status. The king of liberation and his 12 elites. Also the fact that most of the houses still revere the eleite they descended from.
not necessarily. could be stuff that came later
Except Nemesis' army are labeled as the Liberation Army even during the War of Heroes, as confirmed by Arval's paralogue
>Also the fact that most of the houses still revere the eleite they descended from
Lorenz even brags about being descended from Gloucester claiming it's more prestigious than being descended from Macuil against Constance
Sorry. I mean 10 elites. I was mixing them up with the 12 crusaders from fe4.
Not him but according to the devs the people of the north saw Nemesis as a hero but in 3 Houses itself you can gather from the diary entry and Maurice that Nemesis was seen as a hero because he lied to everyone, including the 10 Elites.
that makes sense. so it wasn't even rhea's fault. she just took an existing lie and ran with it
Nemesis was beloved by humans because he killed the nabataens who ruled them and empowered humanity. Rhea couldn't go full globohomosexual and suppress all information so she had to work with some elements of the truth when establishing the church.
>: Why did Seiros (Rhea) leave the Ten Elites and Nemesis as heroes in history?
>Kusakihara: From the human perspective/side, Nemesis and the Ten Elites were heroes. As a result, ruling above humans, she would be unable to completely fabricate points that would deny every aspect of their history, eh. As a result, she left them as heroes while changing other parts in order to suit her own needs.
Also the Church intentionally suppressing technological development is absolutely something that happened and that alone makes them deserving of death
>As the library underground points out, the speed of civilization advancement was way too fast and so they wanted to suppress that, eh. There are also reasons for that but… that will remain a secret, haha.
The dragons intentionally suppressing humanity's technological development for their own selfish reasons is enough cassus belli to kill all of them besides the ones with absolutely zero interest in mortal affairs like Indech.
>Nemesis was beloved by humans because he killed the nabataens who ruled them and empowered humanity. Rhea couldn't go full globohomosexual and suppress all information so she had to work with some elements of the truth when establishing the church.
He wasn't beloved by all, he was bandit turned king. Southern Fodlan rallied against him.
>Also the Church intentionally suppressing technological development is absolutely something that happened and that alone makes them deserving of death
Rhea fought the Agarthans during the War of Heroes. You know how their tech fricked everything up on multiple occasions, plus Rhea relented on the tech suppression over time.
>The dragons intentionally suppressing humanity's technological development for their own selfish reasons is enough cassus belli to kill all of them besides the ones with absolutely zero interest in mortal affairs like Indech.
Sothis made Fodlan humans dragons, they both have the right to call Fodlan home.
not an argument, still gonna turn her into a nice pair of snakeskin boots with my buddy Khalid ibn muhammad, first high sultan of fodlan, mashallah may the wicked serpent be cast out
So you'll ignore every bit a nuance there is to the writing of Rhea, and the Nabateans to shitpost on these threads.
>nuance
there is no nuance. dragons are not people. dragons lying to people and suppressing their development results in death or being chained to the bedpost as breeding stock like in silver snow.
Humans lie to humans and dehumanize other humans all the ducking time. By this logic humanity should be wiped to extinction or put in farms to be bred for actual dragon masters like Medeus.
No, because humans are humans. Dragons are not people and not humans.
I'm sorry this is so hard for you to understand. Might I recommend you play some Monster Hunter to get a better understanding?
Of the Elder Dragons actually got pissed off enough they’ll destroy humanity just as they destroyed civilization in the past.
Meanwhile the riders become buddies with their monsties.
That only means he never told them the super powers come from dragon murder, but being called a hero requires actually doing stuff that would make people notice you
They didn't know where the blood and weapons came from but they blame him because it's only after he died that whatever lies he told them were undone.
The fact he died also destroyed the illusion of him being all powerful as well.
Yup, all we know about Nemesis is that he lied to the people about a lot of things.
Wow, he and Rhea are perfect for each other!
Imagine the sex
>Nemesis and his band were beloved enough by the people that Rhea had to settle with treating them as (former) Heroes, rather than going all the way with the slander
"Beloved" is a funny way of saying ruled by fear. The people were terrified of Nemesis and the only way weak people like most of Fodlanders could live was by following him because it was a world where only the strong survived. They couldn't slander him because it wouldn't exactly help people to know that their ruler was even worse than they remembered.
>According to the church
According to Seteth. He said Nemesis and friends murdered the powerful and weak.
And also attacked each other as well. He lets those kinds of facts slip through.
dragons aren't people, making weapons out of dragon bones isn't "stealing" anymore than playing fricking Monster Hunter is grand larceny.
Also regarding Nemesis
https://serenesforest.net/2020/03/24/three-houses-nintendo-dream-interview-reveals-first-route-claudes-real-name/
>As a result, what would happen to humans who gained power… they would want even more power, and find a dragon much stronger to beat in order to collect materials forcefully, in order to make even more powerful weapons… and so that was the cycle that was born. And that was the birth of Fodlan’s Ten Elites. And then, Seiros raised and army and forcefully suppressed Nemesis and the Ten Elites by beating them, and then afterwards, as the victor, Seiros changed history, which led to the current history of the Seiros Church. In other words, “history is at the end of the day the victor’s privilege and nothing else”, is what we fit in.
Nemesis being the "King of Liberation" isn't a misnomer, he really did kill the nabataens who currently dominated the continent, but then Rhea raised her own army and killed him and history is written by the victors. Trying to paint the conflict as anything other than a power struggle is silly. The reason her church didn't just say "Nemesis is literally Satan and the worst evil alive, the ten elites are all monsters" is because people wouldn't believe it, she made her fake religion twist the truth just enough to be believable. Nemesis and his ten elites DID kill their nabataen governors and receive great power, but she convinced everyone that their power was a blessing from the goddess and reward for their virtue. Which ultimately drove her fricking insane because she's a stupid b***h who decided it would be a good idea to run a religion venerating the people who killed her mother lmao.
dragons belong chained up in the bedroom, do not put them in positions of power, Jesus Christ how many fricking times do you need to learn this lesson from FE games
this but also adrestians aren't people either
>dragons belong chained up in the bedroom, do not put them in positions of power, Jesus Christ how many fricking times do you need to learn this lesson from FE games
Is 3H the only game Nick has played?
i don't think he's even payed it. From the rubbish he's spouting it looks like he's only watched opinion pieces on youtube and maybe a couple of trailers
>Awakening
>Fates
>Three Houses
>Three Hopes
>Any game with Manaketes
dragons are designated lord onaholes, do not put them in positions of power, they go fricking nuts and need to be put down.
>Literally invaded out of nowhere for no reason and then razed an entire region of Fodlan to the ground, butchering Constance's entire family.
they invaded empire though, so it's ok. Their only fault was being too shit at war
>What the actual frick did they mean by this? How is the Church to blame for any of this? It feels like something they pulled out of their ass to give Claude a reason to be anti-Church when all of the prior worldbuilding paints Fodlan's neighbours as huge buttholes
Claude in Houses literally has a speech about how Garreg Maach was the ideal that he wanted to create and even challenges Lorenz on his belief about the church doctrine of which Claude ends up being right. But that only came about because Claude went to school and so actually learned about Fodlan. Copes Claude is still isolated and doesn't get to learn about Fodlan.
Shez will bear Byleth's child
>wearing an outfit like this knowing she smells
The only thing Shez will be bearing of Byleth, is their death
Hubertpls
Out of all the messages his seems the most heartfelt.
>Finally design best girl
>dies in the tutorial
it's a generic bow knight with a generic npc face. there was nothing to design here
Its amazing what a few lines of dialogue can do.
>nick is coming up with new pastas
he's evolving...
So blue lions is once again the superior and most canon route
Don't know about canon, but yes, it's the best one
Blue lion girls deserve to be impregnated.
New Game+ maddening classic is the best way to play Three Houses
>all that pro-crest bullshit Seteth spews in his Yuri support
homie and his daughter deserve the rope
My great-great-grandpa was killed by a crestie. I think all cresties should pay reparations to us normal people. If you this that's unreasonable, then it's just you internalized crestogynt speaking. CRESTLET LIVES MATTER! KILL ALL CRESTIES! CREST WAR NOW!
Why is she so wet
Because Shez is also a crestless orphan commoner just like her, who has nonetheless managed to rise to prominence and power through his own strength and she admires that as a model for how to deal with her own insecurities. It's actually a pretty decent pairing and one of the supports in Hopes I liked most, like with Shez admitting he knows fricking nothing about opera or classically trained singing and so can't really rate her performance as anything other than "sounds nice" because he's a country bumpkin.
(re)creating humans was a mistake. Sothis is a very stupid dragon
Any point to this game if you don't like musou gameplay?
nah just watch AG on youtube and call it a day
If you really like Fodlan
>no secret Byleth + Shez S support
>no sexual tension or romantic implications whatsoever
Blezbos… how could they do this to us?
Jeralt literally gave Shez parental custody of Byleth should he die.
jeralt is a shit father, so the frick cares who he gave away his parental right to
Two for two Jeralt fricking off with Byleth and going into the mercenary life is what fricked them over. It's especially sad when you realize that the timeline gains their own agency is when she is separated from him and he doesn't get to watch over or dictate who she speaks to.
Kronya was the actual good guy of this show
Kronya is an actual hero of Three Houses because she saved us from an annoying lesbian adrestian poster and made Byleth's personality a little less wooden
>gets rid of the Duke
>kills Jeralt thus allowing Byleth to gain her own agency
>traps Byleth in Zaharas thus allowing Byleth and Sothis to naturally merge
Kronya was unironically the hero the world needed.
Byleth in Zaharas thus allowing Byleth and Sothis to naturally merge
that was solon
He used Kronya's body to release the spell.
oh well in that case thales is the real hero since he's the one who saved kronya and orchestrated the thing. You fricking moron
Eh, you could say that the Slithers in general saved the world with their incompetence in 3 Houses. While in 3 Copes, Arval was very competent at his job that's why the war doesn't end and ironically so is Shez who unwittingly makes it so that even more human lives are lost.
>and ironically so is Shez who unwittingly makes it so that even more human lives are lost.
>when the war is almost done in just 1 year, rather than Houses 5
>>when the war is almost done in just 1 year, rather than Houses 5
>she thinks the next war is going to be shorter than the five year war Byleth finished in one
>thinks the war will be shorter even though the end dialogue tells you that it doesn't end.
Jeralt is the worst father in the game, worse than count Varley and whatever Edelgard's dad is called. He manipulates Byleth and makes him socially moronic, giving him the worst possible life because mercenaries can die at any moment. Varley has his flaws but he never left Bernadetta alone to fend for herself for several months to get drunk and didn't put her on a battlefield since she was little. If Byleth didn't have the crest of flames and whatever power comes from it, he'd probably be dead long before Three Houses starts. He's a neglectful prick, Kronya did nothing wrong.
Because Byleth is an autistic rock, just go frick Hubert if you want barely restrained passion
Why is he such a bawd
Why your level is so low? I finished the game with Lv. 63
Not that anon but is that normal to finish around that level? I was using Shez a lot so they were ~90 when I finished and everyone else was hovering around 50-60
My Shez was only at level 65 by the end of the game, so I'd say yes
Damn guess I just really unga bungad with Shez hard then. Looking back considering I was constantly buying levels for my other characters and was basically soloing paralogues(ie: knights of seiros, Ashen wolves) with Shez it seems really obvious I was over using him. Probably why that one level where you lose control of shez if you spare byleth was a huge pain to S rank
If you used the exp gem then that's also around where I finished the game at.
So can someone help my autistic ass?
I'm playing Hard/Classic, SB as my first route and I'm on chapter 11 and the only guy close to fricking levels with the actual enemy generals at this stage is Shez while everyone still like 60-63 fighting against level 70-73s
So like what the frick am I supposed to go do? I know I can go back and farm the last level of the last chapter and get gold but that is so fricking time consuming and slow it's not even funny, and to make it even worthwhile you have to get S-Rank which takes even more time, is there a better way to get gold so I can level up everyone up quicker or whats the deal?
Also why does the three upgrade for the training grounds say it MASSIVELY reduces the gold needed to level up characters, when at most it did away around 1k? Whats the fricking secret to farming gold
Propose to Balthus with the Merc whistle to get his money making personal skill
Wait theres fricking monkey making skills, what fricking classes give tha5t
Thief/assassin route. Appraisal and something else. One gives money for every defeated enemy, the other boosts the quality and level of your drops.
Despoil is one, don't remember where you get it off hand though, probably in the thief line though not every character gains access
Easy, the game mechanics is that the level of your enemies is an average of your highest and lowest level characters. Your dumbass keeps deploying Shez and probably using him exclusively during battles. Thus why you are faced with this issue. That’s the incentive to rotate ALL characters you like using. You can replay the same battles within the same chapter. So just spend sometime playing through the same mission until your characters get more even out.
the gold price to level characters up in camp is trivial, you don't need to grind
I spend all my cold on gifts for Edelgard, Lystheia, and Constance tho. Also farming gold requires finishing missions so yeah . . .
I do a mix of both. I prioritize taking my waifus out on expeditions tho
Enemies will always severely outlevel you on Hard mode, it literally doesnt matter. Get better weaponry.
>how to farm gold
Balthus and/or Despoil.
Jeralt getting killed by clussy was the best thing to happen to Byleth and Edelgard WAS right about him needing to move the frick on.
Nope, the best thing to ever happen to Byleth was getting a new step mommy in the form of Manuela
Best think what happenjed to byleth was marrying that cute girl Lysithea.
They lived happily ever after wth their two kids.
Nah, Edelgard had no right to speak. The issue with Byleth wasn't moving on it was in them finding a reason to live as thus far Jeralt was their only reason for living. The issue wasn't as simple as just moving on.
If Claude did that Randolph strategy on a route where he wasn't being a complete moron in terms of who he was fighting everybody would think he was based.
>He wasn't being a complete moron about who he was fighting
the cope from dragon simps since this game came out is unbelievable, maybe Rhea is actually not that great of a person and there's a reason she loses all power even in her own route (and is even the final boss of said route lol)
I did both Black Eagles routes as my first two playthroughs because I saved before the split and didn't want to bother replaying white clouds all over again, when I did the other routes I was genuinely surprised I didn't have to kill her crazy ass a THIRD time because by that point I just assumed psycho dragon would be the final boss for everyone.
but the only reason Rhea goes out of control in silver snow is because she gives her life saving you?
Rhea doesnt have to lose her political power or even die in SS. She has more routes where she lives than Dimitri and Edelgard.
Kill Sothis
Kill Rhea
Kill Seteth
Corrupt Flayn
Burn Garreg Mach
>be 50 levels lower than enemies on maddening
>one-hit kills stronghold and boss wizards
How does he do it bros??
what difficulty should i play on for any of this item management or skill management to matter?
On Ganker nobody appreciated that "intricate nature", for multiple years at this point it's been Dimitri fujos shit posting about how they're the canon golden route and dragon apolgists insisting the game and developers are lying to you and actually she did nothing wrong, ever, even though the entire state of the continent is her fault (and her insanity is also her fault because she decided making a religion that venerates herself and her mother's killers instead of just making a fricking Church of Sothis was a good idea lol)
I can practically feel the seethe from your post Nick.
who the frick is nick, is this some /vg/ namehomosexualry or something?
Some Edeltard reddit, people call him Nick because that's a part of his username Nickdos which everyone found out when he accidentally doxxed himself. It's easy to pick him out because of the language that he uses and the fact that he'll call every character except Edelgard a schizo, has an amazing ability to literally blame Rhea and also Dimitri for everything wrong with Fodlan while also conviently ignoring the Slithers and their roles in the game's events and never admitting to any of Edelgard's wrongdoing.
It should also be known that Nickdos has very likely never played any route besides CF though he'll pretend to have done so you'll easily figure out that he's lying.
There’s the nick we love.
Not even the biggest Rhea simps claim that she did anything wrong and a few that do are just shitposting like you are. Rhea has several personal failings that she has to deal with. The problem is that none of those failings required a war, especially a war on the scale that we see in the game. Rhea is damaged from trauma. But so is everyone else. The entire Blue Lion house revolves around trauma. Edelgard's moral imperative is founded on trauma. Lysithea was tortured. Raphael lost his parents. Saying that somebody doesn't get to serve in their role because they are damaged is not enough because everyone is. There are fricked up things that church has done. But that also applies to every other faction and every other civilization that has ever existed. But the only thing they ever did was clean their room or establish their own nation. If Edelgard went home and said "the central church isn't allowed here anymore" and fixed her own shit nobody would have complained. But it becomes an argument because she turns her problem into everyone's problem. Hey look at that, Caspar actually knew what he was talking about.
>Not even the biggest Rhea simps claim she did nothing wrong
there are several people making passionate arguments to exactly that point in this very thread lol
Did you just read the first sentence and just stop?
>Rodrigue is playable not
>but still no Judith and Randolph
Bullshit
And we lost Alois and Hanneman.
You get Holst and Monica. Lions don't get any 'new' characters.
I just finished Scarlet Blaze and I feel so unfulfilled. How different would it have been without recruiting Byleth? I feel like Arval was barely explored.
You get to kill that rat Claude, no Arval chapters however, though you get a special Arval paralogue on future runs with a dead Byleth and unlocked Arval
What the frick? I need to replay SB without blyleth to get the whole story?
Go to extras in the main menu, and you will find missing cutscenes and dialogue.
No, just kill them on one of the other two routes.
>you get a special Arval paralogue on future runs with a dead Byleth and unlocked Arval
And you can only unlock Arval on NG+, right?
What's the best route bros
GW, it's entertaining
Is there a list of all the abilities that each character gets from each class?
Press Y twice in the classes menu.
>3 hours later schizo-kun is still at it.
when will you people learn how to discern bait not worth replying to?
Sreng did nothing wrong
They lost
The Bernie-shack is the best addition in FE game
are people who have the same crest related in some distant way
ie seteth & flayn and lindhardt have the same crest
bernie and hanneman have the same crest too
only if you think that blood transfusion makes you related to the donor
The scalies let humans drink their blood which gave them crests and those crests can pop up in any of those peoples descendants
Only potentially.
Yes and no. Flayn is Seteth's only child but at some point during the War of Heroes they passed their blood onto trusted generals that would end up becoming Lords Hevring and Aegir. Ingrid remarks that at one point the nobility tried to keep their blood pure but family lines have gotten so mixed up over time that no one cares anymore
3 Houses Ingrid would have been all about keeping the bloodline pure
Reminder that we should finish the job in Duscur and repopulate it with humans
You people are weird. Did you completely ignore the fact that Ingrid can hook up with Claude? Ingrid's anger towards the people in Duscur isn't rooted in racial superiority
d*scur propaganda
>Ingrid's anger towards the people in Duscur isn't rooted in racial superiority
Tell that to Twitter
Yeah well Twitter is fricking stupid. It's a site that's founded on shitposting and moral outrage. It also ignores the fact that Ingrid can get over her anger in the game that presents her anger. She tells you outright that she hates the people of Duscur because they killed her King and her fiance. She hates them because she was lied to. By the Slitherers. How the frick do you miss that?
Ingrid said all the houses in the Kingdom have inter mingled at some. One of her ancestors had Charon's and another had Blaiddyd.
Most of the Empire's nobles are the great x10 grandchildren of people who were friends with Seteth, Flayn and Rhea during the War of Heroes.
That's why in Scarlet Blaze Flayn says this: their friends descendants are now coming to kill them for completely misguided reasons. It's even funnier when you realise the Kingdom are descended from the people who killed Rhea's family but are now her most loyal supporters.
Rhea should have let Loog destroy the Empire, or was needed.
Edelgard has a wikipedia article and Rhea doesn't
This shows she's right.
What's the limit for forges?
I got the Areadbhar to +40 before getting tired.
Max +100 that's split by +50/+50 to might and durability.
>tfw STILL no route where you can just grab Rhea and Edelgard and frick them both into an absolute stupor so they chill out with the crazy and the actual adults in the room can solve things themselves
Thales did nothing wrong
He forgot the nukes don't work on Central Fodlan
>Epimenides gets called by his fellow cave people
>Thales is just Thales
Even the dubstepgays knows he's shit
Why does Rhea scream "Foolish girl! You may kill me here but you can't un-copulate your great grandfather!" when you kill her in Scarlet Blaze?
>implying Wilhelm ever dirtied his dick with wretched reptile cloaca
Gotta say I prefer fujoposting to this kind of schizophrenia
Do I really have to do multiple routes in Three Hopes? One route is long enough
No, but you only need to do the real chapter missions once you ng+ in hopes
Could you please explain ng+ to me without spoilers about any story moments
You carry levels and items over
You start game over and can pick a different house
You carry over everything (levels, supports, money, skills, etc).
You'll just one shot enemies in NG+ so it doesn't take that long
>can only burn Thales alive, and not Rhea
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