>Convoluted, nebulous, made-up definition that needs a 6 page blog post to explain.
Computer? Seriously? Way to sound like a fricking grampa.
"Them whippersnappers and their compupers!"
lol, lmao even
All this tells me is that BG is a fricking outdated thing designed like a Windows 95 program, and that shit is winning GOTY? What will it be next year? Depression Quest?
5 months ago
Anonymous
You lost tendie
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lost to a Balckrock-owned corporation that gives awards based on ESG and how much gay bear sex there is in the game?
Great then, I wouldn't want to win the globohomosexual award.
5 months ago
Anonymous
yet you're still seething in the globohomosexual award thread, intriguing
5 months ago
Anonymous
Having conversations is a crime? Newsflash, we all come here to waste time, Ganker isn't an intellectual pursuit.
Seething? No, and I'd reccomend you don't randomly tone-police people when you can't actually hear them speak, it reeks of projection.
Also >Doesn't deny anything I've said so far.
Enjoy your globohomosexual award for ESG darling and all the gay bear sex you can have, don't forget to eat the bugs, live in the pod and own nothing.
5 months ago
Anonymous
why are you mentally breaking down over an award you seemingly don't care about
btw no one reading all that
5 months ago
Anonymous
More tone-policing projection.
More failures to deny any of my claims.
kek
5 months ago
Anonymous
more crying over an award you don't care about
5 months ago
Anonymous
i would vote depression quest over botw/totk
zoe quinn gave me a footjob once
and her favorite game is star control 2, which is better than any nintendo game, even mario 3
Seriously.
The last proper 2D Zelda was ABLW which is OVER TEN YEARS OLD.
ALBW sucks nuts and is for babies, 0 thought or skill is required for that game. I don't know why you drones think it's so good, it's mediocre to the core.
It's not even aonuma anymore, he at least tried to make zelda games even if he was bad at it. It's fujibayashi the fanfiction loving homosexual now who has no clue or convictions beyond weebing it up.
This, frick this "ROOOOOH MAKU THE ZARUDO MORE NIHONJIIIII MAKU DA SHEEKAAAH NIIIHONJIIIII MAKU DA MOON AYRIEN LABBITS" homosexual.
Zelda's a japanese propert, certainly, but it's a western fantasy story, and Flu-jibayashi would rather catch a Japanese cold than write western fantasy, that much is clear.
This and the fact that it's priced like a current gen game at $70. I never bothered with this game due to that bullshit. At premium price, I expect a game that's entirely new and not just remixed assets.
No. People thought the story and setting was way too fricking weird and were disappointed that the game was too short. But then again, they also understood that the devs only had 2 years to develop it, so most people gave them a pass for that.
Also, the time gimmick pissed off a fair amount of people.
Sorry but no, there is no justification for TotK taking 6 years to make. It recycles BotW's assets on a massive scale. The engine, most of the world, most of the enemies, most of the UI elements, most of the sound effects, most of the costumes, most of the collectibles, most of the animations, most of its systems, etc. Being able to glue things together is not 6 years worth of work.
The only excuse is that the Zelda team knew they could take a break because BotW was so ludicrously successful. A sequel was guaranteed to sell so they didn't have to try.
Reset the clock on a game that didn't win GotY, lmao.
5 months ago
Anonymous
TotK does need the California troony Award. It's already drowning in awards, it's the highest rated game of the year on metacritic and the fastest selling exclusive of all time. The cope is at biblical levels lmao
>b-b-but le epin Cali award voted by trannies...
lma0o
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yep, you're definitely coping, lmao. TotK ran from Elden Ring, only to lose to Baldur's Gate 3. Arrogant fricking little shits at Nintendo. They needed that humbling.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yep. You want to know what's great about Nintendo taking L's? It incentivizes them to improve.
5 months ago
Anonymous
what gay headcanon is this? it the fastest and highest selling Zelda game in the entire series and one of the highest selling games in general for the year besides Hogwarts >They needed that humbling
Yeah I'm sure John Nintendo is crying right now
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah I'm sure John Nintendo is crying right now
They definitely are. People bought TotK because there was six years of hype around it, but conversation died in a month. It didn't win any notable awards. It took six years to make, and is considered of equal caliber to Pikmin 4.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>but conversation died in a month.
you gays say this for every game >It didn't win any notable awards.
why should Nintendo care or why should any company really care to be honest, even if it had a bunch of random frick you awards you would just be saying it didnt deserve them so who cares
5 months ago
Anonymous
>you gays say this for every game
Elden Ring had constant threads for over a year. Same with BotW. It was in the cultural zeitgeist. Tears of the Kingdom had none of that, because there was nothing to it. It was BotW with social media bait built in through Ultra Hand.
5 months ago
Anonymous
there have been totk threads every single day since release
5 months ago
Anonymous
Propped up by people spamming "erictroony" for 500 posts, or spamming porn. No gameplay discussion sadly.
5 months ago
Anonymous
those were mostly cuck threads, to be fair
5 months ago
Anonymous
It had threads for months, what a load of bullshit
5 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe A month. Then it devolved into "Zelda girls threads," and other art dump material, until it petered out into a /vg/ general.
5 months ago
Anonymous
This is true of almost anything discussed here. What is an example of a game that facilitates substantial discussion outside of like a month after release?
5 months ago
Anonymous
BotW, Elden Ring. If a game generates those genuine autism style threads where people get into eight hour debates over lore, and other mechanics, then chances are, the game has something to it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't see people talking about TotK beyond the first week. It was dropped hard, didn't even have to worry about spoilers.
5 months ago
Anonymous
absolute nonsense, it was leaked 3 weeks before release and had constant threads up the entire time, then even more threads made by people started playing it when it actually released
5 months ago
Anonymous
You know we can check the archive right
moron
5 months ago
Anonymous
TotK is so good seething schizos desperately have to cling to validation that a better game must exist somewhere.
>there is no justification for TotK taking 6 years to make.
No developer will ever make a game like TotK. It's too hard. You don't understand video games.
>call Armored Core 6 "troony shit" because you thought that it wouldn't get a single nomination >gets the exact same amount as Zelda >now the game awards magically don't count anymore
Zelda is movieshit, and couldn't even beat AC6 at its worst. Cope, Arthur.
it's everything botw should have been. it made botw completely irrelevant because it pretty much improved everything while staying essentially the same exact game. it's fricking moronic that it took 6 years to make it though, game should've been out in 2020
Zelda should not be GMod. That alone makes it worse than BotW. Get that fricking shit out of here. Downright offensive that THAT was what made its development take so long.
Even tendie youtubers were dissapointed and they shilled the game for months before release, claiming stuff like "they're just hiding the real conrent in the Depths and Sky Islands".
Honestly almost every nominee this year deserved goty more than TOTK, even some non-nominees like Dead Space, System Shock, Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen 2.
tp is the worst zelda
it's the zelda that made them cater to the west because 08 crash was happening and japan hated it,but Americans loved it so they catered to more American with adult link shit.
I'm going to be honest with you. Japanese creations and skills are often much better used when they are appealing to the west. The consumerbase of Japan is pure dogshit.
Nintendo appealing to the west was how we got the zelda, metroid and mario franchises.
Every time Nintendo neglected the western audience it ended up biting them on the ass, whether it was creating flops like Wind Waker or wasting effort on games nobody played
Majora's Mask
Ocarina of time, frick it, every non wind waker game catered to the west, what the frick are you talking about, now it thinks it's ghibli today
>TotK actually uses the Splatoon 3 engine, not the BotW engine
lolwat? that's just plain wrong, you can easily look into the game files and see that it's not the case, stop talking shit when you have no idea
ummmm tendiesisters?????
i thought totk had it locked in??????????
It's still 40% reused content and 40% empty content. Look, I love the descent into Gloom's Lair and the entire finale too, but a 25 minute set piece can't carry you to GOTY.
you can build shitty cars, make penis men, explore rearranged configurations of the same 7 sky island assets and hunt for amiibo costumes underground... so much cool shit. you even get matt mercer if you're a dubcuck.
I would argue BoTW was the better game. ToTK only removed things and made the player make them yourself through busy work. Its literally a case of, remove a platform that would usually transport the player, make them make it. BoTW also has a better flow to gameplay and is not as riddled with plotholes or unexplained shit in the story.
Everything totk added or changed was for the worse. Fusion was trash, construction was trash, menuing was trash, more copy paste with the sign guy and caves, sky islands were nothing but a disappointing pain in the ass, the underground was a giant empty asset flip that was a pain in the ass to navigate, the plot is rancid dogshit. Botw had so many problems they could've fixed, so much potential they could've capitalized on, but they were either far too cowardly to try or had no clue how to actually fix anything, probably both.
This is the most honest answer. People freaking out about on either direction are ridiculous. The game is really good but a more safe, direct sequel. Baldur's Gate 3 had way more of a jump, which ironically puts it closer to BotW.
This is the most honest answer. People freaking out about on either direction are ridiculous. The game is really good but a more safe, direct sequel. Baldur's Gate 3 had way more of a jump, which ironically puts it closer to BotW.
Yeah, gay sex and words words words is truly a revolution to Video Games. Sure hope BG3 winning inspires more devs to go more for gay-sex!
I love both games. But just about any criticisms you can levy towards TotK you can also levy towards BG3.
TotK's relationship to BotW is shockingly similar to BG3's relationship to DoS2.
Bg3 is dos2 with a McDonald's brand name and the budget that McDonald's gives you. Everyone loved dos2 because it's basically the same game but nobody could circle jerk over it being literally dnd.
Same game different skin. McDonald's now instead of Joe's burger joint.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>different skin >and mechanics >basically not much in common besides barrelmancy and being turn-based >but it's just like botw/totk
moron.
5 months ago
Anonymous
is this true?
tendies lost to a single transexual?
are they that weak?
This is a new level of cope lmao
tears of the kingdom lost, you are upset and doing damage control
Erictroony, posting in threes again 😉
5 months ago
Anonymous
what the frick does that even mean?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Who is Eric and how has he mindbroke the tendies so bad?
I accept your troonycession 😉
5 months ago
Anonymous
no, really, what does "posting in threes" mean to your brain damaged cultist mind?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Erica, I always knew you were an ESLtroony 😉
5 months ago
Anonymous
you misunderstand, the linguistic part of it is crystal clear; what i want to understand is what the concept of "posting in threes" means to you, mainly because it seems you are just waiting until three posts make your taint wound ache with rage and then replying to them
5 months ago
Anonymous
30 FPS DLC
see
I accept your troonycession, Erictroony 😉
😉
5 months ago
Anonymous
dilate arthurtroony
5 months ago
Anonymous
You lost, Erictroony 😉
5 months ago
Anonymous
why are you unable to speak like a thinking person?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>different mechanics
The fights are the same and still suck and are still half the game. All the mechanics are the same too. It's a dnd game. One has the license and one doesn't. I can't believe I even have to point this out.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>D:OS 2 is a D&D game
lel next time play the games you're talking about, it will help you shitpost
TotK is miles better than BotW simply by virtue of actually having content. If you went back to BotW and liked it more then you were clearly dropped on your head as a child.
totk is amazing but not exciting because the content is mostly old
it's like if lamborghini made a super cool car and then 6 years later they released the same car but faster, better handling, and with a cooler interior
yeah people already absorbed most of it the first time around
you see what stuff is improved but not the total product because most of it it reused
TotK doesn't have content that wasn't already in BotW. The "new content" is literally just bloat. The Depths is the literal definition of content recycling. Can you imagine if Elden Ring's underground area had 0 new enemies or bosses? It would have gotten crucified.
>1998 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Unanimous winner)
Competition: Metal Gear Solid, Panzer dragoon Saga, Starcraft, Radiant Silvergun, Thief: Dark Project, Banjo Kazooie, Fallout 2, Baldur Gate, Pokemon Red and Blue, Resident Evil 2, Tekken 3, Tomb Raider III, Suikoden II, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Starcraft Brood War
>2000 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (15 Awards, Overall Winner) >Competition: Deus Ex (13-14 Awards, Runner Up)
>2003 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Most Critic awards) >Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (Won the Popular Votes)
>2006 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Critics choice winner) >Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Won the popular vote)
>2011 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Overall winner) >Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Uncharted 3, Dark Souls, Human Revolution
>2017 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Overall Winner) >Competition: NieR: Automata
So far every Zelda has won Game of the Year other than Skyward Sword and TOTK
>1998: Zelda managed to stand tallest among what is debatably the best year in all of gaming >2023, 25 years later: Zelda can't even beat a Eurojank CRPG
Any Wildgay who tries to discount OoT's reception ever fricking again can eat a goddamn dick. It may not have had the same deluge of cookie cutter review websites to pad out its Metacritic with that the Wild games did, but it had the toughest competition in a single year that any game could ever ask for. OoT EARNED its fricking 99.
Nope. As soon as it won Adventure Game I knew it wasn't winning GOTY. It doesn't deserve GOTY at any rate. I liked the game well enough, but what they put out wasn't worth six years.
The game has an 8.2 metacritic. It's lower than BoTW despite all of the hype and people saying this game was perfect or a flatout miracle. Nobody who played it bought that shit for a minute. I don't even think hardcore Nintendo fans truly thought that. And then if you say as much they try to gaslight you into being an evil snoy because you thinking the game is just okay/pretty good is an invalid opinion. I'm glad Geoff shills a bunch of shitty indie games to pay for his events instead of taking bribes from microsoft and nintendo.
Nintendo youtubers turned on it a couple months ago even. It was too safe, gamers wanted to be blown away with something new and different like BotW was to them. The devs missed the memo by making it too similar instead of blowing players minds again.
It's the same exact fricking game with a new building gimmick and half-baked sky and underground section and an underwhelming plot. Using the same hyrule and bringing back ganondorf for no reason other than fanservice was a mistake. This game should have been the Majora's Mask to BoTW.
3 years to try something new and realize they're talentless hacks
2 years to add gmod building
1 year of sitting on a finished game because they couldn't compete with ER
>1 year of sitting on a finished game because they couldn't compete with ER
are there actually people on Ganker moronic enough to believe this
5 months ago
Anonymous
We know they sit on completed games like Metroid Prime remaster and FE Engage. TOTK was set for 2022 then for some reason got delayed when another big open world game was also releasing. Use your brain man.
Japanese game that exalts traditional gender roles by depicting warriors saving princesses vs. westoid ideological shit that promotes beastiality and marrying roasties.
Take a wild guess.
And? We're talking about the GOTY nominees, none of those franchises even had an elegible game this year.
TGA hates japanese games, the fact that they didn't give Xenoblade best soundtrack last year in favor of fricking Goy of Shit of all things was enough proof.
TGA is ideologically compromised ,of fricking course Bear Gay Sex Simulator was going to win, they didn't even nominate Hogwarts Legacy, not even in minor irrelevant categories, why? Because they're in Blackrock's pocket, had there been an even more degenerate, perverse, generic westoid fantasy game then that shit would have won, it's not about BG being any good, it's about them actively despising anything that doesn't have trannies in it.
Imagine calling someone else "ideologically compromised" when your opinion of VIDEO GAMES is ultimately governed by whether or not they contain whatever current year buzzword culture war shit is making you seethe.
What values? Does Hogwarts Legacy deserve an award because its a good game or because you like how it makes trannies seethe? Is it my values that apparently sway in the wind or yours, the guy who would call a shit game bad one day and great the next depending on what twitter is saying?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Pointing out that a BlackRock owned corporation snubbed one of the biggest releases of the year for ESG reasons =/= Liking that release, I haven't even played HL and I don't intend to, but nice reach you delusional bear fricker.
Both BOTW and FF7 are movie games that care more about muh story and muh emotions and muh feelings, so yes they literally make Uncharted look like Doom, and they make TLOU look like Unreal Tournament.
>Joke character meant to highlight how dumb men look in women's clothes.
VS >Legitimate depictions of beastiality, presenting trannoids as romance options, having random lesbians murder your heroes and replace them.
What kind of point are you making here exactly?
>presenting trannoids as romance options, having random lesbians murder your heroes and replace them.
What game are you talking about, neither of these things happen in Baldur’s Gate
Baldur's Gay: Bear Sex Edition is an industry astroturf, it was always going to win because it is designed from the ground up to be an ESG darling, but nobody actually cares for it, nobody talks about it, there is absolutely zero conversation around it, even the deranged anti-Nintendo snoys like Lewis and AC anon found more success here with Zelda hate threads than anything BG, people would rather hate on Zelda than think about BG at all.
I'm a tendie and even I think BG3's victory was well deserved. I liked ToTK but I get secondhand embarrassment reading the sensationalist shit journalists were writing about it on release.
TotK actually uses the Splatoon 3 engine, not the BotW engine, they legit painstakingly recreated the whole thing in a different engine, which admittedly is likely the reason TotK runs as well as it does on Switch, the classic Zelda engine was showing its age.
>TotK actually uses the Splatoon 3 engine, not the BotW engine
lolwat? that's just plain wrong, you can easily look into the game files and see that it's not the case, stop talking shit when you have no idea
why are you quoting me you moron.
you are even more embarassing than the people who hate ToTK and never played it. Stop shitting up this board you massive homosexual
>their engine is pretty sick though
It's literally the proprietary havoc physics engine with a few tweaks to it
The result is impressive but to act like Nintendo solved some ancient riddle is moronic. The building shit was central to the gameplay so of course it had to be refined more than most other games' physics.
The new powers ruined the game by providing too many solutions which removed any challenge from the game. Zelda is about solving dungeons not flying around in vehicles.
>Blonde haired, blue eyed hero >Gay ships completely and utterly sunk beyond belief >Despite the memes, Ganondorf doesn't cuck anyone and dies shitting himself in anger over having his ass kicked by a manlet twink >Ganondorf is, as always, a brutal, merciless, scheming swarthy bastard instead of a sadboi POC whose misery is the fault of wypipo >Link is a literal white savior who keeps a society of strong brown women from collapsing in the face of a zombie attack
Didn't check the right ESG boxes, please understand.
It has to have a shred of credibility, that's why this year they got such an early start promoting the lgbt astroturf of the year, they wanted to make sure it seemed legit even tough there's zero organic hype around it.
So now we're down to pretending thar the LGBT lobby doesn't despise JK Rowlingand tried to boycott rhe game? I'd ask you to have some dignity, but then I remember you lot are Blackrock bootlickers.
TOTK is the better game but it will never have the impact BOTW did. If it came out first it would blown the breasts off BG3.
It's like Super Mario Galaxy 2. 100% better than the first game but the first one is much more beloved and remembered because it caught the world by storm while the second was more of the first.
No it wouldn't have because it's a worse, far less focused game with far worse game design and a pants on head moronic plot. BotW might not have had as much content, but its content wasn't as egregiously bad as TotK's was either. It also had a far, far stronger opening 5 hours, which is about all the time journos ever spend on a game anyway, so BG3 still would've won.
This. It’s bizarre to me that people call BotW the tech demo. BotW had a cohesive design and a vision of what it wanted to be. TotK was the tech demo showing off the fancy new powers and building system in a reused world.
And? If anythin it's really telling that some of the best games of the year (TotK, Future Redeemed) are glorified DLC, the fact that westoid games need TGA favoritism and Blackroc support to get awards should be worrying to anybody who likes these generic tolkienesque dime a dozen pseudo-games.
Oh, but the snoys sure did with the endless daily b***hing threads.
I don't blame you lot tough, I would also be here all day crying about the releases of other companies if I had bought a $450 paperweight.
BOTW was revolutionary, ToTK was just building upon BOTW, its that simple.
BG3 had the western devs cry about not being able to do low effort slop from now on because of it.
this was actually one of the better parts of miiverse
Both BOTW and FF7 are movie games that care more about muh story and muh emotions and muh feelings, so yes they literally make Uncharted look like Doom, and they make TLOU look like Unreal Tournament.
the person you're talking to probably don't know what UT'99 is, man. he was prob born after.
Oh boy I sure love getting the same items in the same, exact preset order because you are not allowed to ever experience any freedom in what’s supposed to be an adventure game
>No DLC because it was initially conceived as DLC
I didn't even bother to finish it, it didn't stick and there's more tedium here than in BotW. Even they know they can't do weapon durability a third time, or risk the new formula getting stale, which for me it is.
All meme'ing, all bullshit, all jokes, all nonsense aside? It's literally BoTW. But with two extra, extremely empty maps. Why the hell should it win anything? Literally any other games deserved to win more.
It was an uninspired asset flip of a fundamentally flawed formula. BotW did some things right but at its core it's an open-world game whose main content is extremely mid puzzles and combat encounters.
Ubislop. Anyone pretending it isn't basically a polished Ubisoft open world turd is properly delusional or they don't pay attention to anything at all.
BotW/TotK are the most soulless iterations of the franchise. They're totally uninspired, dogshit ubislop games. I knew right away if they put fricking shrines and all that boring crap into another one people would bounce off it. As soon as the hype died down people were dropping the game. Plenty of people I watched play it on launch quietly dropped it after a couple streams. Everything they tacked onto it sucked, the filler sucked. Building shit wasn't fun and doesn't fit the series at all, I have no idea why they thought that was the right direction. They had a chance to fix all the problems from BotW and make a proper Zelda, but instead it was just more of the same shit everybody burnt out on 5 years ago.
I just want a real fricking Zelda game so bad. 2D, 3D, whatever, just anything but this soulless time-wasting garbage. Even the story and setting in these new games is paper thin. I don't care about any of it.
I didn’t watch it, but was Aonuma and fujibayashi really there? Kek. I hope they’re boiling with anger. Fricking open world garbage. Go frick yourself homosexuals
TotK absolutely, above all else, did NOT deserve best direction. It didn't even deserve to be nominated. What the frick was there to direct? They reused everything from fricking BotW.
They're probably fine because they'd know more than anyone else that they made a half-assed kusoge.
I mean fricking hell, nintendo themselves said they delayed the game a year for bug fixing, and we also know that they outsourced the totk's writing to Qualia Writers.
As a (former) hardcore Zelda fan, I'm relieved - no, ecstatic that ToTK lost and received the pity award for best action-adventure.
All that needs to happen is for the next BoTW-formula game to under-perform sales wise (and it likely will, now that the honeymoon phase has ended for most newfound "fans" of the series) and then maybe this franchise can finally get back on track with its core identity again.
Honestly, I would've been fine with the BoTW formula too, if Nintendo actually put effort into ToTK and improved upon its predecessor's flaws - but it didn't in any meaningful, worthwhile way outside of maybe bosses (which were still too easy, but to each their own.)
Doubt that's going to happen anon, but on the plus side the OoT / MM modding scene is really starting to pick-up since that major leak a few years back. I imagine my love for Zelda will continue through hacks and mods in the same way it does for Pokemon.
Or until Monolith Soft gets their shitty greased-covered walmart brand JRPG hands off of Zelda. Tendies circle jerking their horrible games is what led to this (they are not even to being the best modern JRPGs). They are credited as the actual game design devs in TotK, and it shows. Xenoblade is bad, and TotK is bad. The sooner people realize this, the better.
That's pretty much how I feel. Massive open maps do not make a good game. If you were to shorten the distance between every genuine point of interest and remove all of the collectable bloat that serve as low effort filler to pad playtime, I think more people would realize how bland they actually are. It's crazy how telling someone to walk in a mostly straight line for 55 seconds instead of 15 seconds, and telling them to collect 900 of the exact same thing, will make so many people think it's good.
WWHD refined and shortened the Triforce quest and added the faster sail specifically to cut the worst crap out of the game, yet Nintendo ignored this philosophy in BotW AND TotK and did the opposite.
Why wouldn't you collect them? According to you, they're masterfully designed pieces of game design. Why would you skip such excellently crafted game design?
Here comes anon's pedantic backpedal about how 100% completion isnt necessary despite the game being a masterclass in game design which would incentive 100%ing anyway
At what point is it good game design? It's not, and that's my point. They aren't even fun after the first 3 or 4, yet it unlocks weapon slots.
You're literally not smart enough to understand this failure.
>zoomer
I’m older than you, the first Zelda I ever beat was for NES. I had an OoT gold cart but it got stolen.
BoTW is my favourite Zelda, ToTK is only behind it because fused weapons are ugly and it slightly annoyed me. But still much better than any post OoT/MM 3D Zelda, because all those games were just trying to be OoT again.
in the ways that matter less, yes. in the ways that actually matter, no. >jealously cling to durability in their new Zelda about "not relying on convention" >throw out decades of kino swordplay for waggleshit in one game >remove thrusting >remove proper shielding >remove horizontal and vertical slashes >remove dodge roll and all the WW combat >remove all the TP moves >Replace them with...TIME STOP DODGES YOU CAN JUST DO OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN >OOPS YOUR SWORD BROKE MID-TIME STOP GUESS THAT WAS A WASTE OF BEING GOOD AT THE GAME
Nintendo genuinely does not understand how to make a good game anymore. They're literally just too big to fail, the Ford Motors of the video game industry, and every year they release some new PoS for the morons and soccer moms to slaver over.
Wind Waker absolutely was just "OoT, but with water." It follows the Zelda formula of "three dungeons, get master sword, some twist up and change, and then final set of more challenging dungeons."
That would just make his era even shorter and further prove my point. I picked OoT because it was the first 3D Zelda he had a director's credit on and he was attributed with making the 3D concept finally work after a lot of trial and error.
People are calling Fujibayashi his "successor" even though he's been directing the games for longer. His games just take a lot longer to come out and always feel undercooked.
Tendies mad snoys mad microshart mad, VGAs pissed everyone off.
Totk deserves to lose however. Don't slap together the same game, put a literal baby block mechanic in there then charge a full $70 for glorified DLC next time.
Why don’t you shut the frick up? Everyone knows that The Game Awards don’t fricking matter. We all knew it was going to be rigged. We all think that Baldur’s Gate 3 is overrated garbage that can suck a fricking shitty crusty fart out of my butthole.
Talking about zelda on this board is a fricking pain. What happend to the /vg/ general? At least there I can have reasonable discussion without people screeching "DLC!" or "ASSET FLIP!" every 5 seconds.
>What happend to the /vg/ general?
Died because totk was a massive letdown. Why else do you think a Zelda general would die within months of a major Zelda game being released?
>muh asset flip!!!!!!!
Literally just the moronic thoughts of 80 IQ gays who don't understand the raison d'etre of the Switch Zelda games. If you don't think TotK is one of the best games of all time, I'm sorry, but you're a dumbass. There's no reason a shitty, cookie-cutter facsimile of a D&D campaign that just happens to have a couple cute girls should ever win over a game that so holistically accomplishes its mission the way TotK does. "What mission?" If you don't know you need to have a nice day.
if TOTK actuallly addressed the issues of BOTW, maybe people wouldn't consider it an asset flip. Like the biggest problem being how all NPCs have plot armor, so you can't kill them and raze Hyrule to ashes.
No, that's moronic.
They need to take a page from MM and force Link/the player to make important, harsh decisions regarding who they decide to save throughout their adventure. In MM, you couldn't save the entirety of Termina's population in a single time-loop playthrough, and gameplay scenarios would change based on who you saved or attempted to help first.
That's what the franchise is missing as far as side-content goes and it's embarrassing that they still don't have the balls (or talent) to tackle similar mechanics and narrative depth from a game released in 2001.
all the people who actually made MM-tier decisions and writing calls in those days is probably either trapped in the Pikmin mines or burned out of the industry forever.
You guys, this might be too much personal info, but did you frickers know I worked with a guy who worked on Battle Chess? It was like working with a rockstar, this old fricker who goes "oh you kids like them Vidjer Gaems?" but then goes on to whip out his legendary fricking resume. I won't go into it because I don't want to doxx myself or others but it was wild.
>all the people who actually made MM-tier decisions and writing calls in those days is probably either trapped in the Pikmin mines or burned out of the industry forever.
That would be Koizumi, who was forced to overtake the Mario franchise after MM (and it really shows in his absence. The Zelda IP never really recovered after he left.)
Japanese game used to be great and glorious like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse, Neowiz and BG3 so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P, Dave the Diver,Zenless zone Zero,BG3,Black myth Wukong reduces DMC5, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, MHW, Elden ring, RE4, ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
No wonder why Japanese devs have inferiority complex on genshin so that they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics such as Elden ring,ToTK and Xenoblade 3.
At least we Westerners still make good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, Diablo 4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,STARFIELD,
Modern warfare 3,Sea of stars,
BG3,Mortal kombat 1,
Spiderman 2,Remnant 2.
Phil Fish was right. Japan has no where to stand in gaming.
What is left in Japan?
Anime? Solo leveling is AOTS next year and China makes them better.
Comics? Korea makes them better,Webtoon.
Game? Mihoyo,Neowiz,BG3,black myth wukong mogs any Japanese game in ease. Even Elden ring,Sekiro,MHW,DMC5,RE4,ToTK.
Electricity? Korea makes them better.
Car? Hyundai makes it better.
Weebstuff? Blue archive dominates Comicket by booth number of 1600!
Porn? Banned from Japan by new law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!! But Area 11 of Korea and China!!! Vassal state of Korea and China. Hallyu and Zhong liu(China wave) blows upon Japan!!
Japanese games are dead. The time is for China,Korea and West.
No Japanese game won award this time, right? Mihoyo got 2.
Japanese games are dead. The time is for China,Korea and West.
Capcom and Fromsoft are still going strong, but yeah - Nintendo lost their touch, talent and passion years ago, and it really shows. Honestly, the only game I truly enjoyed from them this year was Pikmin 4.
>MM baby
lmao reminder it never won goty either.
There were no GoTY ceremonies back then. Regardless, the game did some stupid shit with the forced time gimmick, but having scenarios change based off of the player's choice/interactions is something the franchise desperately needs.
No wonder why Japanese devs have inferiority complex on genshin so that they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics such as Elden ring,ToTK and Xenoblade 3.
West never manipulate metascore like this because they polish game and improve instead of bribing critics for they have technology to fix bug and glitches.
Left is China, Right is Japan in Pic.
Did ToTK and Wowie Zowie manipulate metascore by bribing critics, for inferiority complex against Mihoyo? For Japan don't have technology to improve gaming so they use them on bribery to critics, while West never does that.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Is ToTK's metascore manipulated and bribed like TLOU2 and cyberpunk? Every game with metascore higher than genshin is good game.
Eh, when it comes to Nintendo, it has less to deal with bribing and more to deal with Nintendo blacklisting them from early content and literal fear from hardcore tendies who legit send death threats or doxx reviewers if they don't give their games a perfect 10/10 rating. Been that way for the Zelda franchise since the Twilight Princess Gamespot review fiasco.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Been that way for the Zelda franchise since the Twilight Princess Gamespot review fiasco
Qrd?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Gamespot gave TP an honest score (8.8) rather than a perfect 10 and tendies doxxed the site in a blind rage for days on end, eventually resulting in the reviewer getting fired.
Granted, the hype for TP was insane back then; through the roof. It was one of the most hyped games of its era.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Granted, the hype for TP was insane back then; through the roof. It was one of the most hyped games of its era.
That's every Zelda game. Every Zelda game is god's gift to mankind until a month later when it's somewhere between "really good," and "great."
5 months ago
Anonymous
I remember the hype, but didn't know about that review shit. What I'm more surprised by is Gamespot bending the knee especially as that guy who left The Escapist recently (the one who shits on all games in some way, shape or form) started doing his thing around the same time. I remember when the WoWtards went after him when he tried Cataclysm and crapped all over it, and his response was to double-down.
There's nothing to talk about, there's no depth to the game, the story sucked, the characters aren't worth obsessing over. What do you want to talk about, cheesing shrine puzzles because the intended solutions are fricking tedious? Doing everything possible to avoid having to use the build mechanic? How empty and pointless the sky and depths are? How disappointing the dungeons still are compared to games that came out 20 years ago?
It's mediocre, bland, and uninteresting. There's no depth unless you want to pointlessly wank around with the building and combining to do shit that's completely useless beyond making clickbait videos.
>muh asset flip!!!!!!!
Literally just the moronic thoughts of 80 IQ gays who don't understand the raison d'etre of the Switch Zelda games. If you don't think TotK is one of the best games of all time, I'm sorry, but you're a dumbass. There's no reason a shitty, cookie-cutter facsimile of a D&D campaign that just happens to have a couple cute girls should ever win over a game that so holistically accomplishes its mission the way TotK does. "What mission?" If you don't know you need to have a nice day.
1. Get rid of weapon durability.
2. Either commit to the game being an RPG, or don't have it try. Having health and stamina plus RPG style gear, but nothing really else is weird, and just makes the game look indecisive.
3. More areas like Hyrule Castle, and general dungeons
This is pretty much it. This is pretty much all you had to do for a BotW sequel, and they failed at every one of them.
People were talking (not seething like morons - actually talking) about BotW for at least a year.
TotK spent the whole whopping two weeks "blowing the minds" of both players and """developers""" after which everyone and their dog forgot about it.
It makes sense, really.
It should've not won any awards, but it's a Zelda game so it just HAD to get something, so the whole Adventure nominee lineup was moronic with no adventure games in it. Fair enough, I'd take TotK as the "best adventure game" over Disney/EA slop receiving any awards.
I'm not joking when I say that they should make a direct sequel to Twilight Princess.
And I don't mean they should revert the gameplay entirely, just bring back the tone and the sharper focus on the main quest. You could still have physics and more freeform exploration.
Wind Waker (I know and love PH and ST, just hear me out) and Twilight Princess needed Majora's Mask-style sequels, ones that improved on their flaws or took the same engine and made a new world/area to explore with a gimmick that made it stood out. In the case of TP, we know they were trying to do a new story, one that was grand before it got sized down into the Wii Zapper minigame. Working on a deadline was very beneficial for Majora's Mask, as they actually had to try to do something while still realizing they had a time limit, which is very coincidental considering MM's entire gimmick is based around time, a feature that was prominent in Ocarina.
The current Zelda team needs that type of tension to bring out creative ideas and stick with them, but games today are too expensive and filled with middlemen and bullshit to actually try something fun.
Japanese game used to be great and glorious like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse, Neowiz and BG3 so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P, Dave the Diver,Zenless zone Zero,BG3,Black myth Wukong reduces DMC5, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, MHW, Elden ring, RE4, ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
No wonder why Japanese devs have inferiority complex on genshin so that they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics such as Elden ring,ToTK and Xenoblade 3.
At least we Westerners still make good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, Diablo 4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,STARFIELD,
Modern warfare 3,Sea of stars,
BG3,Mortal kombat 1,
Spiderman 2,Remnant 2.
Phil Fish was right. Japan has no where to stand in gaming.
What is left in Japan?
Anime? Solo leveling is AOTS next year and China makes them better.
Comics? Korea makes them better,Webtoon.
Game? Mihoyo,Neowiz,BG3,black myth wukong mogs any Japanese game in ease. Even Elden ring,Sekiro,MHW,DMC5,RE4,ToTK.
Electricity? Korea makes them better.
Car? Hyundai makes it better.
Weebstuff? Blue archive dominates Comicket by booth number of 1600!
Porn? Banned from Japan by new law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!! But Area 11 of Korea and China!!! Vassal state of Korea and China. Hallyu and Zhong liu(China wave) blows upon Japan!!
Japanese games are dead. The time is for China,Korea and West.
No Japanese game won award this time, right? Mihoyo got 2.
>At least we Westerners still make good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, Diablo 4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,STARFIELD, >Modern warfare 3,Sea of stars, >BG3,Mortal kombat 1, >Spiderman 2,Remnant 2.
lost you there homie, none of those are good games, also you talk like an ESL and use redditspacing
ToTK didn't have legs though, it didn't really earn many new sales after its first two-week blow-out. Which already indicates that Nintendo fricked up big-time and lost much of the newfound playerbase they accumulated from BoTW.
I suspect the next one will under-perform if it's more of the same BoTW formula with zero genuine improvements to its inherent flaws.
The cost of doing literally anything in TotK is ridiculously overtuned. It costs 2,280 rupees to fully upgrade just ONE set in TotK, IN ADDITION to farming an ungodly amount of materials for that set. And some of the sets themselves cost thousands of rupees JUST to buy!
This is NES levels of grindiness and there is a reason why games have move past this antiquated design. What's even stupider is that this isn't even a multiplayer game.
Considering how much having a completely upgraded set trivializes shit I don't think it's overtuned at all.
Zonaite is fricked up though. I make some fricked up jalopy and the cost is like 15-20 minutes in the mines farming to respawn it after it decided to dissapear. Absolutely moronic.
Literally the exact same situation, but even more intense and elevated. Critical darling for one month, and then everyone realizes it's more like an 8/10.
I have never forgiven Skyword Sword for failing Skyloft's Silent Realm 10 times in a row and having Fi's advice highlighted in red being "you are acting erratic. Maybe take a break from the adventure and come back when you have a clearer head". Went back to Skyrim and never touched SS again.
>BoTW but floating islands and you can stick a bug to a stick didn't win GoTY
Wew, who could've foreseen that? Hopefully this means the next Zelda won't just be a lazy reskin of BoTW.
TOTK is a slow burn and moron filter, similar to death stranding. I was pretty surprised to see it get such good critical reception but people really do give Nintendo shit more of a chance.
Now Mario Wonder, that's a piece of shit. Literally just repackaged NSMB and the badge shit they added doesn't matter and Is useless 9/10 levels
Nintendo is really starting to show signs of their lack of artistic leadership. Aonuma's magnum opus was BotW, he has nothing left in him. Mario hasn't really done anything truly innovative in years.
>Aonuma
It was more like Fujibayashi. Or perhaps even a co-developer mix of Fujibayashi and Aonuma.
TotK was a disaster though; you're right about him; he's clearly washed-up now. Meanwhile Fujibayashi is turning out to be a talentless hack who was better off developing the 2D games. He doesn't have the talent or the skillset to develop a good and fully-released 3D Zelda, and it really fricking shows after TotK's pathetic 6-year development cycle.
>Granted, the hype for TP was insane back then; through the roof. It was one of the most hyped games of its era.
That's every Zelda game. Every Zelda game is god's gift to mankind until a month later when it's somewhere between "really good," and "great."
Nah, TP was different. I can tell you weren't there when that initial E3 2004 reveal dropped, it was fricking nuts.
>Nah, TP was different. I can tell you weren't there when that initial E3 2004 reveal dropped, it was fricking nuts.
I was there. Not physically, but I remember the batshit insanity of GameFAQs then. But BotW 100% surpassed that, and TotK would have too, if Nintendo advertised it at all. You still had journos literally calling it a "miracle."
Japan's tendency to promote people into positions that aren't their specialty will never cease to piss me off. Mario and Zelda are very different styles of vidya, and Koizumi should've stayed as the Zelda guy. Aonuma only got lucky with MM, and because of that he's been the designated Zelda guy for 20 years now, all because of just one success. Pokemon has a similar thing going on with its producers, instead of choosing the guy that's most fit for the job (Morimoto) they're letting their seniority/favoritism take charge. Ohmori is a complete hack with that series, yet they won't let him go.
MM wasn't even his brainchild, it was Koizumi's. WW was his brainchild, but its potential/development was cut short by the terrible reception to its art style.
Honestly I wish you wouldn't have told me that, because that only makes the drop in series' quality even more apparent. Koizumi never should've been changed to the Mario team, that isn't his specialty.
Fricking rightfully so. What the hell was he thinking with that art style? Genuinely? There was no basis for it in any previous Zelda. It's like choosing to make hyper realistic Mario. Everyone ABSOLUTELY had the right to complain about it.
I wonder if Anouma still seethes about the West's initial response to it to this day. I liked the WiiU remake but that's because they fixed a lot of the original game's problems (namely the Triforce Shard gathering) but I remember the first time I saw WW on the GameCube at a friend's place as kid and thinking it looked "off".
>Japan's tendency to promote people into positions that aren't their specialty will never cease to piss me off.
It's called the Peter Principle. Employees that perform well are promoted to a position where they become incompetent since the skillset required is different.
I still love Ohmori's excuse for not adding the Battle Frontier being that "adding extra content to a remake when kids have more options today via smartphones means we shouldn't do it". If that's the case why did you add the Delta Episode, Ohmori? Or Soaring in the Sky? Or Mirage Island Streetpass? Or previous gen's legendaries? Or DexNav? Granted, I did like those being added but his reasoning for the BF was still bullshit. As much as modern Pokemon sucks, the nail went into the coffin when they couldn't even be assed to remake Diamond and Pearl themselves.
I don't buy any of their PR responses, it's just an excuse to cover up their incompetent asses. Ever notice that SV didn't let you go inside of any buildings, gyms didn't have any other than a recolor for the same battlefield, and not even the E4 had their own special rooms? It's because they're cutting corners due to having to invest time in creating the overworld for Legends and SV.
You're right. There was ALBW, and I enjoyed the Hyrule Warriors spinoffs, but that's about it; those were the only outliers. Outside of those titles, it's been nothing but a downward spiral.
>popularity contest
Reminder that only 10% of the actual scoring was done by polling and the other 90% was an in-house panel of judges, it's not a popularity contest it's literally just some of geoff's mook's favourites
Award shows always weird me out. Everyone knows the critics' opinions on review sites are trash, but make it a spectacle with the same thing and people will treat it differently.
ITT sad old men kvetch about critically acclaimed thing not meeting their impossible to define standards and remember products from when they were children and their lives weren't terrible
>find minecart and mine full of rock meat >attach the meat together to make a giant meat orb, use rocket to blast that shit to the Goron chef >He pays me for one rock meat and the rest dissapear
>The Advertiser Awards
So a 3 hour infomercial with the "winner" based on who got their wiener sucked the hardest by journos is officially considered the de-facto GOTY now?
They don't have to win every award they just have to keep making games that compete for goty. This series wasn't doing that from 2003-2015, that's a long time but it's back to being a top game again.
not him but besiege, a game that came out 500 years ago still has its creations being posted here
zelda only got its creations posted here for like, a few days then it stopped being a thing
what a weird cope, your game lost
I don't want to hear about rudimentary physics engines like gmod and besiege that can't make this bridge
This games potential is only limited by the players imagination.
5 months ago
Anonymous
listen mate, 5 devs having a circlejerk on twitter about how much they suck isn't winning your game GOTY nor making it a good game
would you kindly have a nice day
5 months ago
Anonymous
Your game is not capable of making this
This games potential is only limited by the players imagination.
It is also not a goty level adventure game under this.
Pipe down.
5 months ago
Anonymous
my game is elden ring and it won a goty actually
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lol you fricked up buddy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, games take ideas from other games
now tell me, why didn't tears of the kingdom release the same year as elden ring? lmao
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cope and seethe. You said something that would make Miyazaki himself tell you to shut up.
5 months ago
Anonymous
This is a new level of cope lmao
tears of the kingdom lost, you are upset and doing damage control
you forgot the fact that everything disappears when you enter a temple or exist it
i've seen people call zelda "seamless" and i think people don't know what that means
We all know deep down it was a disappointing asset flip.
Still more of a game than balder's gay 3 will ever be
Keep crying.
a fine crpg > play doh similutator in a copypasted empty world
The frick is a "c"rpg? does the c stand for "wienergobbling"?
http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-is-crpg.html
>Convoluted, nebulous, made-up definition that needs a 6 page blog post to explain.
Computer? Seriously? Way to sound like a fricking grampa.
"Them whippersnappers and their compupers!"
lol, lmao even
All this tells me is that BG is a fricking outdated thing designed like a Windows 95 program, and that shit is winning GOTY? What will it be next year? Depression Quest?
You lost tendie
Lost to a Balckrock-owned corporation that gives awards based on ESG and how much gay bear sex there is in the game?
Great then, I wouldn't want to win the globohomosexual award.
yet you're still seething in the globohomosexual award thread, intriguing
Having conversations is a crime? Newsflash, we all come here to waste time, Ganker isn't an intellectual pursuit.
Seething? No, and I'd reccomend you don't randomly tone-police people when you can't actually hear them speak, it reeks of projection.
Also
>Doesn't deny anything I've said so far.
Enjoy your globohomosexual award for ESG darling and all the gay bear sex you can have, don't forget to eat the bugs, live in the pod and own nothing.
why are you mentally breaking down over an award you seemingly don't care about
btw no one reading all that
More tone-policing projection.
More failures to deny any of my claims.
kek
more crying over an award you don't care about
i would vote depression quest over botw/totk
zoe quinn gave me a footjob once
and her favorite game is star control 2, which is better than any nintendo game, even mario 3
keep crying nintendie homosexual, love it
Cope moron. TOTK had all that time to be a new Zelda game and instead we got rehashed bullshit with an annoying building mechanic tacked on
i hope aonuma gets fired so we can have good zelda games again
I hope the entire 3D team is downsized and they can only make 2D games with the old guard left behind
Seriously.
The last proper 2D Zelda was ABLW which is OVER TEN YEARS OLD.
ALBW did the whole freedom thing better than BotW or TotK.
ALBW sucks nuts and is for babies, 0 thought or skill is required for that game. I don't know why you drones think it's so good, it's mediocre to the core.
It's just fun and feels good to play
It's not even aonuma anymore, he at least tried to make zelda games even if he was bad at it. It's fujibayashi the fanfiction loving homosexual now who has no clue or convictions beyond weebing it up.
This, frick this "ROOOOOH MAKU THE ZARUDO MORE NIHONJIIIII MAKU DA SHEEKAAAH NIIIHONJIIIII MAKU DA MOON AYRIEN LABBITS" homosexual.
Zelda's a japanese propert, certainly, but it's a western fantasy story, and Flu-jibayashi would rather catch a Japanese cold than write western fantasy, that much is clear.
Yes it is, and yet I played over 180 hrs, I don't regret it but it's really sad how it was mostly all recycled shit.
it's a good game but it's not breaking any new ground
It's the equivalent of playing heavily modded Skyrim, and expecting that to win awards.
sad but true
Definive fpbp
It should've been DLC but Nintendo didn't have it in them to admit what it was and wanted the money. It just didn't deserve it.
This and the fact that it's priced like a current gen game at $70. I never bothered with this game due to that bullshit. At premium price, I expect a game that's entirely new and not just remixed assets.
yep
Did people feel this way about Majora's Mask when it came out?
>New overworld
>two year development cycle
Context, anon.
No. People thought the story and setting was way too fricking weird and were disappointed that the game was too short. But then again, they also understood that the devs only had 2 years to develop it, so most people gave them a pass for that.
Also, the time gimmick pissed off a fair amount of people.
The time gimmick was and is genuinely fricking terrible. It's either a nonstop annoyance or a total non-issue, but never truly leaves you alone.
shit opinion.
You can't be this thick-headed just for (You)s right... right?
MM took 1.5 years to come out, TotK took SIX FRICKING YEARS.
To sharpen the contrast even further, WW came out 4 years after OoT.
TotK is about 10x the scope and complexity of those games. But I don't expect morons on Ganker to understand anything about game development.
>TotK is about 10x the scope and complexity of those games.
It's BotW with the GMod gun, baby.
Sorry but no, there is no justification for TotK taking 6 years to make. It recycles BotW's assets on a massive scale. The engine, most of the world, most of the enemies, most of the UI elements, most of the sound effects, most of the costumes, most of the collectibles, most of the animations, most of its systems, etc. Being able to glue things together is not 6 years worth of work.
The only excuse is that the Zelda team knew they could take a break because BotW was so ludicrously successful. A sequel was guaranteed to sell so they didn't have to try.
>there is no justification for TotK taking 6 years to make.
No developer will ever make a game like TotK. It's too hard. You don't understand video games.
delusional tendie homosexual
Reset the clock boys.
Reset the clock on a game that didn't win GotY, lmao.
TotK does need the California troony Award. It's already drowning in awards, it's the highest rated game of the year on metacritic and the fastest selling exclusive of all time. The cope is at biblical levels lmao
>b-b-but le epin Cali award voted by trannies...
lma0o
Yep, you're definitely coping, lmao. TotK ran from Elden Ring, only to lose to Baldur's Gate 3. Arrogant fricking little shits at Nintendo. They needed that humbling.
Yep. You want to know what's great about Nintendo taking L's? It incentivizes them to improve.
what gay headcanon is this? it the fastest and highest selling Zelda game in the entire series and one of the highest selling games in general for the year besides Hogwarts
>They needed that humbling
Yeah I'm sure John Nintendo is crying right now
>Yeah I'm sure John Nintendo is crying right now
They definitely are. People bought TotK because there was six years of hype around it, but conversation died in a month. It didn't win any notable awards. It took six years to make, and is considered of equal caliber to Pikmin 4.
>but conversation died in a month.
you gays say this for every game
>It didn't win any notable awards.
why should Nintendo care or why should any company really care to be honest, even if it had a bunch of random frick you awards you would just be saying it didnt deserve them so who cares
>you gays say this for every game
Elden Ring had constant threads for over a year. Same with BotW. It was in the cultural zeitgeist. Tears of the Kingdom had none of that, because there was nothing to it. It was BotW with social media bait built in through Ultra Hand.
there have been totk threads every single day since release
Propped up by people spamming "erictroony" for 500 posts, or spamming porn. No gameplay discussion sadly.
those were mostly cuck threads, to be fair
It had threads for months, what a load of bullshit
Maybe A month. Then it devolved into "Zelda girls threads," and other art dump material, until it petered out into a /vg/ general.
This is true of almost anything discussed here. What is an example of a game that facilitates substantial discussion outside of like a month after release?
BotW, Elden Ring. If a game generates those genuine autism style threads where people get into eight hour debates over lore, and other mechanics, then chances are, the game has something to it.
I didn't see people talking about TotK beyond the first week. It was dropped hard, didn't even have to worry about spoilers.
absolute nonsense, it was leaked 3 weeks before release and had constant threads up the entire time, then even more threads made by people started playing it when it actually released
You know we can check the archive right
moron
>call Armored Core 6 "troony shit" because you thought that it wouldn't get a single nomination
>gets the exact same amount as Zelda
>now the game awards magically don't count anymore
Zelda is movieshit, and couldn't even beat AC6 at its worst. Cope, Arthur.
Even further, BotW came out 5 years after SS.
decomp shows that about 10% of OoT codebase was reused and game works in completely new overworld
FPBP
Even the journos who praised it felt its mediocrity deep down.
It benefited heavily from the Zelda bonus.
it's everything botw should have been. it made botw completely irrelevant because it pretty much improved everything while staying essentially the same exact game. it's fricking moronic that it took 6 years to make it though, game should've been out in 2020
>it's everything botw should have been.
Zelda should not be GMod. That alone makes it worse than BotW. Get that fricking shit out of here. Downright offensive that THAT was what made its development take so long.
Even tendie youtubers were dissapointed and they shilled the game for months before release, claiming stuff like "they're just hiding the real conrent in the Depths and Sky Islands".
Honestly almost every nominee this year deserved goty more than TOTK, even some non-nominees like Dead Space, System Shock, Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen 2.
Erictroony, you lost.
fpbp
Neither Skyward Sword nor Twilight Princess won.
>Twilight Princess
People weren't quite ready to accept that it was the best and sexiest Zelda in '06.
tp is the worst zelda
it's the zelda that made them cater to the west because 08 crash was happening and japan hated it,but Americans loved it so they catered to more American with adult link shit.
I'm going to be honest with you. Japanese creations and skills are often much better used when they are appealing to the west. The consumerbase of Japan is pure dogshit.
This right here. Nips consistently have shit taste. FromSoft knew this a long time ago which is why they went all-in on the West.
Nintendo appealing to the west was how we got the zelda, metroid and mario franchises.
Every time Nintendo neglected the western audience it ended up biting them on the ass, whether it was creating flops like Wind Waker or wasting effort on games nobody played
Majora's Mask
Ocarina of time, frick it, every non wind waker game catered to the west, what the frick are you talking about, now it thinks it's ghibli today
>TP
thats not the abbreviations for wind waker
(me)
Sorry I meant WW
Good. Appealing to the east turns it into a pedo gatcha game. You need our taste or else youd be the worst pedo weebs imahinabke. Youre welcome.
Anima is literally white people, cope
But enough about troony impact.
Ah the first cope. Right on time
I accept your troonycession 😉
Erictroony, you lost 😉
Good image
Erictroony, you lost.
>TP
>08 crash happening at this time
You DO realize the game released in 2006... right? Also, Zelda always catered to the west until WW happened.
honey, skyward sword is the worst. followed by windwaker
>ᥒintend𐐬 makes cute porn characters
>but their games are garbage and boring to play
Erictroony, your cope isn't working 😉
TGA was not around yet
Weapon durability and not giving a shit about dungeons anymore finally caught up to them.
Huh? The only Zelda games that ever did was BOTW and OOT.
rehash dlc didn't deserve to win a single award
glad we all agree demake 4 and spidercuck 2 deserve nothing
correct, also totk for being yet another disappointment in the zelda series
Resident Evil 4 Remake was the sacrificial lamb to ensure Tendies and Snoys don't win this year.
it was better than breath of the wild
It's still 40% reused content and 40% empty content. Look, I love the descent into Gloom's Lair and the entire finale too, but a 25 minute set piece can't carry you to GOTY.
It's the exact same game, I fricking hope it wouldn't be worse.
nah breath of the wild was boring, TotK has way more cool shit
you can build shitty cars, make penis men, explore rearranged configurations of the same 7 sky island assets and hunt for amiibo costumes underground... so much cool shit. you even get matt mercer if you're a dubcuck.
I would argue BoTW was the better game. ToTK only removed things and made the player make them yourself through busy work. Its literally a case of, remove a platform that would usually transport the player, make them make it. BoTW also has a better flow to gameplay and is not as riddled with plotholes or unexplained shit in the story.
Everything totk added or changed was for the worse. Fusion was trash, construction was trash, menuing was trash, more copy paste with the sign guy and caves, sky islands were nothing but a disappointing pain in the ass, the underground was a giant empty asset flip that was a pain in the ass to navigate, the plot is rancid dogshit. Botw had so many problems they could've fixed, so much potential they could've capitalized on, but they were either far too cowardly to try or had no clue how to actually fix anything, probably both.
It’s basically breath of the wild with a bigger map and more pausing
This does not translate to a better, or more fun, game
Dzi Tirs of de kingdom edz un deeledze de Bret of de waild entondzedz twalait prindzedz edz un deeledze de ocarina.
more of the same wasn't enough.
FRICKING DESERVED IT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA
They rested on their laurels. It was BOTW 1.5. BG3 instead went the extra mile.
>BG3 instead went the extra mile
yeah I also love having sex with men
Weird admission but ok
This is the most honest answer. People freaking out about on either direction are ridiculous. The game is really good but a more safe, direct sequel. Baldur's Gate 3 had way more of a jump, which ironically puts it closer to BotW.
Yeah, gay sex and words words words is truly a revolution to Video Games. Sure hope BG3 winning inspires more devs to go more for gay-sex!
we get it, you don't have the capacity for strategy
we get it, you want to have gay sex
>zoomer finds out what a crpg is
>zoomer self inserts and exclusively has gay sex
blud is moronic frfr sheeeeesh no cap
Counterpoint: TotK was finished
both gud games tho
>TotK was finished
Agreed. TGA proved it. LoZ is done.
It was a VN with gay sex
The gameplay was worse than BG1
I love both games. But just about any criticisms you can levy towards TotK you can also levy towards BG3.
TotK's relationship to BotW is shockingly similar to BG3's relationship to DoS2.
So you didn't play BG3 or D:OS2. Thanks for chiming in tendie, next time play games instead of shitposting.
Bg3 is dos2 with a McDonald's brand name and the budget that McDonald's gives you. Everyone loved dos2 because it's basically the same game but nobody could circle jerk over it being literally dnd.
>different map
>different characters
>different combat mechanics
>different fricking system
>s-same as BotW/TotK guys, n-nothing new
moron.
Same game different skin. McDonald's now instead of Joe's burger joint.
>different skin
>and mechanics
>basically not much in common besides barrelmancy and being turn-based
>but it's just like botw/totk
moron.
Erictroony, posting in threes again 😉
what the frick does that even mean?
I accept your troonycession 😉
no, really, what does "posting in threes" mean to your brain damaged cultist mind?
Erica, I always knew you were an ESLtroony 😉
you misunderstand, the linguistic part of it is crystal clear; what i want to understand is what the concept of "posting in threes" means to you, mainly because it seems you are just waiting until three posts make your taint wound ache with rage and then replying to them
see
😉
dilate arthurtroony
You lost, Erictroony 😉
why are you unable to speak like a thinking person?
>different mechanics
The fights are the same and still suck and are still half the game. All the mechanics are the same too. It's a dnd game. One has the license and one doesn't. I can't believe I even have to point this out.
>D:OS 2 is a D&D game
lel next time play the games you're talking about, it will help you shitpost
No Bear sex
Probably being a fricking dlc instead of an new game
but enough of spiderman 2
They made the same goddamn game again with some building features
An gaygier game filled with Black person release before the end of the year.
The 2 sacred cows of western Black folk.
Nintendo wanted to avoid being embarrassed by Elden Ring, only to be clowned on by BG3. That's what it fricking deserves.
Arthur's gonna have a melty and kill himself over this one
It's a glorified DLC. The wait was not fricking worth it
Will people finally admit that TotK is actually worse than BotW?
TotK is miles better than BotW simply by virtue of actually having content. If you went back to BotW and liked it more then you were clearly dropped on your head as a child.
totk is amazing but not exciting because the content is mostly old
it's like if lamborghini made a super cool car and then 6 years later they released the same car but faster, better handling, and with a cooler interior
yeah people already absorbed most of it the first time around
you see what stuff is improved but not the total product because most of it it reused
TotK doesn't have content that wasn't already in BotW. The "new content" is literally just bloat. The Depths is the literal definition of content recycling. Can you imagine if Elden Ring's underground area had 0 new enemies or bosses? It would have gotten crucified.
>BotW comes out
>Ganker hates it
>ToTK comes out
>Ganker hates it and suddenly loves BotW
the zelda cycle is real
Totk is trash and isn't even a Zelda game
>no Monster Hunter for you!
>no GOTY for you!
Kek, this is rubbing salt to the wound!
Look at the list of games that were shown, the majority of them are missing the Switch. It's actually crazy, the console is straight up dead now.
>a console that is 6 years old with a new one on the horizon is...LE DEAD?!??!!?
The Xbone and PS4 kept getting games for 2 years after the Series X and PS5 came out.
>with a new one on the horizon
hahahaha
Nothing, it deserved GOTY even more than BotW did. This reward show is now a popularity contest and nothing more.
>complaining about popularity contests while championing tendie games
Tendie games > your favorite game
Cry harder homosexual.
LOL, keep seething, and keep rebuying the same dozen games on rotation.
Mario Wonder alone mogs your favorite game and it was one of the weakest titles this year. Cry harder.
unlucky tendies
Holy frickin brain-broke, I can't believe someone is schizophrenic and autistic enough to put time into making this
Seethe, tendie homosexual
zeldakeks are having a meltdown already
There are more people making fun of TOTK than there are people complains TOTK didn’t win
>1998 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Unanimous winner)
Competition: Metal Gear Solid, Panzer dragoon Saga, Starcraft, Radiant Silvergun, Thief: Dark Project, Banjo Kazooie, Fallout 2, Baldur Gate, Pokemon Red and Blue, Resident Evil 2, Tekken 3, Tomb Raider III, Suikoden II, Parasite Eve, Xenogears, Starcraft Brood War
>2000 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (15 Awards, Overall Winner)
>Competition: Deus Ex (13-14 Awards, Runner Up)
>2003 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Most Critic awards)
>Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker (Won the Popular Votes)
>2006 - The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Critics choice winner)
>Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Won the popular vote)
>2011 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Overall winner)
>Competition: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Uncharted 3, Dark Souls, Human Revolution
>2017 - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Overall Winner)
>Competition: NieR: Automata
So far every Zelda has won Game of the Year other than Skyward Sword and TOTK
>Deus Ex lost by ONE award
This is why measuring this shit is moronic.
>two worst zelda games are the only ones without goty awards
really makes you think
>OoT
>That competition
Jesus Christ
>1998: Zelda managed to stand tallest among what is debatably the best year in all of gaming
>2023, 25 years later: Zelda can't even beat a Eurojank CRPG
Any Wildgay who tries to discount OoT's reception ever fricking again can eat a goddamn dick. It may not have had the same deluge of cookie cutter review websites to pad out its Metacritic with that the Wild games did, but it had the toughest competition in a single year that any game could ever ask for. OoT EARNED its fricking 99.
That’s not even everything from 1998. Half Life, MvC, Grim Fandango(although those last two aren’t really goty contenders)
There was lots of games missing from 1998 too like Half-Life
holy hell 1998 was packed to hell with great games
Ocarina of Time was the greatest Zelda game ever made and will never ever be topped.
botw only won because its only competition was Horizon kek
Is anyone surprised by this?
I was a bit worried when AW2 took direction. But I guess it was a movie game landslide.
Nope. As soon as it won Adventure Game I knew it wasn't winning GOTY. It doesn't deserve GOTY at any rate. I liked the game well enough, but what they put out wasn't worth six years.
>"Nah I'd win GOTY"
TOTK is the Oscar bait of video games, Nintendos “pochantos”. This will hopefully humble them
Open world slop needs to fricking die by principle.
Not really
I knew it was going to be between bg3 and totk, I thought BG3 might lose because it was a bit janky
I'm very happy that we went from CRPGs being as good as dead 5 years ago to one winning goty, though.
The game has an 8.2 metacritic. It's lower than BoTW despite all of the hype and people saying this game was perfect or a flatout miracle. Nobody who played it bought that shit for a minute. I don't even think hardcore Nintendo fans truly thought that. And then if you say as much they try to gaslight you into being an evil snoy because you thinking the game is just okay/pretty good is an invalid opinion. I'm glad Geoff shills a bunch of shitty indie games to pay for his events instead of taking bribes from microsoft and nintendo.
Nintendo youtubers turned on it a couple months ago even. It was too safe, gamers wanted to be blown away with something new and different like BotW was to them. The devs missed the memo by making it too similar instead of blowing players minds again.
It's the same exact fricking game with a new building gimmick and half-baked sky and underground section and an underwhelming plot. Using the same hyrule and bringing back ganondorf for no reason other than fanservice was a mistake. This game should have been the Majora's Mask to BoTW.
Aonuma is literally too talentless for that. Koizumi was always the brains.
I don't get what took them an entire console gen.
3 years to try something new and realize they're talentless hacks
2 years to add gmod building
1 year of sitting on a finished game because they couldn't compete with ER
>1 year of sitting on a finished game because they couldn't compete with ER
are there actually people on Ganker moronic enough to believe this
We know they sit on completed games like Metroid Prime remaster and FE Engage. TOTK was set for 2022 then for some reason got delayed when another big open world game was also releasing. Use your brain man.
wait wait wait wait wait
no no no nononono...
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!
Japanese game that exalts traditional gender roles by depicting warriors saving princesses vs. westoid ideological shit that promotes beastiality and marrying roasties.
Take a wild guess.
Even in that department Xenoblade and Dragon Quest blow it out of the water.
And? We're talking about the GOTY nominees, none of those franchises even had an elegible game this year.
TGA hates japanese games, the fact that they didn't give Xenoblade best soundtrack last year in favor of fricking Goy of Shit of all things was enough proof.
TGA is ideologically compromised ,of fricking course Bear Gay Sex Simulator was going to win, they didn't even nominate Hogwarts Legacy, not even in minor irrelevant categories, why? Because they're in Blackrock's pocket, had there been an even more degenerate, perverse, generic westoid fantasy game then that shit would have won, it's not about BG being any good, it's about them actively despising anything that doesn't have trannies in it.
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
Only correct thing you said was XB3 getting snubbed.
Imagine calling someone else "ideologically compromised" when your opinion of VIDEO GAMES is ultimately governed by whether or not they contain whatever current year buzzword culture war shit is making you seethe.
Unlike you my values don't blow with the wind, I don't care for zoophilia and trannies, never have, never will.
What values? Does Hogwarts Legacy deserve an award because its a good game or because you like how it makes trannies seethe? Is it my values that apparently sway in the wind or yours, the guy who would call a shit game bad one day and great the next depending on what twitter is saying?
Pointing out that a BlackRock owned corporation snubbed one of the biggest releases of the year for ESG reasons =/= Liking that release, I haven't even played HL and I don't intend to, but nice reach you delusional bear fricker.
Hogwarts Legacy was pozzed as frick.
>scene where you have to crossdress to get into a restricted area
cool are you gonna tell me FF7 is woke too
Well the remake turned that scene into Rupaul's Drag Race, so...
Both BOTW and FF7 are movie games that care more about muh story and muh emotions and muh feelings, so yes they literally make Uncharted look like Doom, and they make TLOU look like Unreal Tournament.
tendietrannies......
>Joke character meant to highlight how dumb men look in women's clothes.
VS
>Legitimate depictions of beastiality, presenting trannoids as romance options, having random lesbians murder your heroes and replace them.
What kind of point are you making here exactly?
>presenting trannoids as romance options, having random lesbians murder your heroes and replace them.
What game are you talking about, neither of these things happen in Baldur’s Gate
Now tell him he's beautiful so you too can dress like a troony just to do some copy pasted glorified shrine in this absolute masterpiece.
>unironically caring what a smug journalist thinks about a video game
I played this game and had a blast. Form your own opinions for once.
Hopefully this makes Nintendo realize this new direction for Zelda is shit
>sells 30 million
kekaroonie
Wii sold 100 million and look how its sequel turned out. There's only so much you can do before customers get bored of your product
I love TOTK but everybody knew BG3 was gonna win GOTY
it did ironman numbers
Baldur's Gay: Bear Sex Edition is an industry astroturf, it was always going to win because it is designed from the ground up to be an ESG darling, but nobody actually cares for it, nobody talks about it, there is absolutely zero conversation around it, even the deranged anti-Nintendo snoys like Lewis and AC anon found more success here with Zelda hate threads than anything BG, people would rather hate on Zelda than think about BG at all.
ha ha
get cucked
What do you mean? It already won back in 2017. They just decided to let the DLC compete this year for some reason. Strange, huh?
Released too early in the year. Gamer have a three second memory, that's why Alan Wake 2 won so much.
I'm a tendie and even I think BG3's victory was well deserved. I liked ToTK but I get secondhand embarrassment reading the sensationalist shit journalists were writing about it on release.
their engine is pretty sick though
not saying I want a rehash but it would honestly be a shame if TOTK is the last anybody ever sees of it
TotK actually uses the Splatoon 3 engine, not the BotW engine, they legit painstakingly recreated the whole thing in a different engine, which admittedly is likely the reason TotK runs as well as it does on Switch, the classic Zelda engine was showing its age.
>TotK actually uses the Splatoon 3 engine, not the BotW engine
lolwat? that's just plain wrong, you can easily look into the game files and see that it's not the case, stop talking shit when you have no idea
why are you quoting me you moron.
you are even more embarassing than the people who hate ToTK and never played it. Stop shitting up this board you massive homosexual
You seem upset, Erictroony 😉
>their engine is pretty sick though
It's literally the proprietary havoc physics engine with a few tweaks to it
The result is impressive but to act like Nintendo solved some ancient riddle is moronic. The building shit was central to the gameplay so of course it had to be refined more than most other games' physics.
These normalgay journalists would have a stroke if they saw Gmod or Half-Life 2 on release
>Nobody understands how you make magic hand beam move objects
>and even I think BG3's victory was well deserved
shut the frick up Black person
The new powers ruined the game by providing too many solutions which removed any challenge from the game. Zelda is about solving dungeons not flying around in vehicles.
FRICKING FINALLY. FRICK ZELDA AND IT'S OBNOXIOUS FANBASE.
>what went wrong?
TotK.
Didn't deserve jack shit.
Ganker KWABOTY
>YEAH
Zelda
In
Name
Only
Same map. They were never going to get away with it the moment they decided that.
If it wasn't BG3 taking the GOTY this year, it would've been Alan Wake 2. Zelda received less awards than both of them.
Zelda to ever lose GOTY
????? What the frick are you even talking about?
>Blonde haired, blue eyed hero
>Gay ships completely and utterly sunk beyond belief
>Despite the memes, Ganondorf doesn't cuck anyone and dies shitting himself in anger over having his ass kicked by a manlet twink
>Ganondorf is, as always, a brutal, merciless, scheming swarthy bastard instead of a sadboi POC whose misery is the fault of wypipo
>Link is a literal white savior who keeps a society of strong brown women from collapsing in the face of a zombie attack
Didn't check the right ESG boxes, please understand.
if ESG was a factor Ragnarok would have beaten elden ring and pajeetfield wouldn't have been ignored
It has to have a shred of credibility, that's why this year they got such an early start promoting the lgbt astroturf of the year, they wanted to make sure it seemed legit even tough there's zero organic hype around it.
>"TGA is not compromised by ESG!"
>Not a single mention of Hogwarts Legacy.
Ok then.
>it's ESG to not have the game with a troony in it
okay schizo.
So now we're down to pretending thar the LGBT lobby doesn't despise JK Rowlingand tried to boycott rhe game? I'd ask you to have some dignity, but then I remember you lot are Blackrock bootlickers.
The lack of esg forced to actually examine the game itself instead of focusing on the politics as usual
AAAIIIIIEEEEE HELP ME MILES WE WOULD HAVE WON IF IT HADN’T BEEN FOR THIS FRICKING FRIDGE
>take botw
>rehash it but add gmod features
>wowza why is this game so hated
Should have made a new game
TOTK is the better game but it will never have the impact BOTW did. If it came out first it would blown the breasts off BG3.
It's like Super Mario Galaxy 2. 100% better than the first game but the first one is much more beloved and remembered because it caught the world by storm while the second was more of the first.
No it wouldn't have because it's a worse, far less focused game with far worse game design and a pants on head moronic plot. BotW might not have had as much content, but its content wasn't as egregiously bad as TotK's was either. It also had a far, far stronger opening 5 hours, which is about all the time journos ever spend on a game anyway, so BG3 still would've won.
This. It’s bizarre to me that people call BotW the tech demo. BotW had a cohesive design and a vision of what it wanted to be. TotK was the tech demo showing off the fancy new powers and building system in a reused world.
>That moment when you go to the surface
>Yep... it's BOTW alright
My thoughts exactly.
TOTK is a better and more complete game than BOTW, but it just adds more over it, it doesn't revolutionize it in any way
BotW's impact is extremely overstated.
yeah, the doom 2, metroid prime 2, X-COM: Terror from the deep, C&C Red Alert, etc, problem
Yeah... no
They made a DLC for BOTW and not a new game.
And? If anythin it's really telling that some of the best games of the year (TotK, Future Redeemed) are glorified DLC, the fact that westoid games need TGA favoritism and Blackroc support to get awards should be worrying to anybody who likes these generic tolkienesque dime a dozen pseudo-games.
Sorry nintendorks, but the open world king won't be giving away his throne
>itt: Baldur's Gayte and BOTW 1.5 fans mindlessly arguing against each other
Sup, spider-slop.
they delayed the game AN ENTIRE YEAR to dodge elden ringt
AND IT STILL LOST LMAOOOO
do you really think the studios care about some gay hollywood awards show
it's not like it comes with a money reward like the Nobel Prize
Do you guys unironically believe this? You think Nintendo, or any company really is making business and development decisions over Video Game Awards?
I do, and in the movie industry it's called "Oscar bait".
reminder that /lozg/ is dead because totk was so shit. not even the dedicated zelda fanbase on Ganker could fake interest in the game
Oh, but the snoys sure did with the endless daily b***hing threads.
I don't blame you lot tough, I would also be here all day crying about the releases of other companies if I had bought a $450 paperweight.
I'll see you in 6 years when botw 3 comes out
TEARS OF THE TODDLER
BOTW was revolutionary, ToTK was just building upon BOTW, its that simple.
BG3 had the western devs cry about not being able to do low effort slop from now on because of it.
In what way was botw revolutionary? it's a bog standard ow down to the Ubisoft towers
Even if you tell yourself that for 6 years more, the rest of the industry will disagree with you.
if it's so obvious you should be able to point out what's so revolutionary about it no?
It was the first Open World game that was good, for one.
lmfao
>tendies and lariatgays tearing each other to shreds for my amusement
Heh.
>Its dlc
way to go, you did not play the game
It is absolutely DLC.
this was actually one of the better parts of miiverse
the person you're talking to probably don't know what UT'99 is, man. he was prob born after.
>Geoffy points out their win last time
>makes them watch a real RPG take home the gold
feels good, you will frick that bear, tendies.
>real RPG
But starfield didn't win
"people shitting light out of their hands and repeating the same story six times" the game
Didn't have Zelda in a Gerudo or slave outfit.
Not enough trannies in the game, unironically
Biggest disappointment of all time. When you play OOT, you can already see the huge difference in quality
Oh boy I sure love getting the same items in the same, exact preset order because you are not allowed to ever experience any freedom in what’s supposed to be an adventure game
Freedom is overrated and no one cares. People on Ganker think trash games like Kenshi is good because of muh freedom.
>Freedom is overrated
You are an American, aren’t you
An expertly crafted, curated experience will btfo a mediocre open world 100% of the time
>expertly crafted
Lmao, Hyrule Field is the most boring “hub” in the history of video games
>hyrule field "argument"
Get new material
I accept your concession. Enjoy taking to that owl, btw.
Botw and totk are ubisoft games with shitty puzzles and awful 'dungeons'. Nu-LoZ fans are cancer.
>No DLC because it was initially conceived as DLC
I didn't even bother to finish it, it didn't stick and there's more tedium here than in BotW. Even they know they can't do weapon durability a third time, or risk the new formula getting stale, which for me it is.
Fippybippy as usual
>What went wrong?
The combat.
Maan I thought only hinoxes behaved like this. That's so bad kek
>play the game on a bug-laden emushitter
>Wtf why is this game so buggy?
Heh.
This. Did they ever fix that emulator bug where you can't skip the intro cutscene or the tutorial?
Erictroony, you lost 😉
concession accepted.
I accept your troonycession, Ericsubhuman 😉
I thought it did pretty well in TGA considering it was a DLC for BotW.
All meme'ing, all bullshit, all jokes, all nonsense aside? It's literally BoTW. But with two extra, extremely empty maps. Why the hell should it win anything? Literally any other games deserved to win more.
Because of extreme fanboyism and most journalists growing up with a Nintendo machine. Thats it
Heteronormative chudgame
Jews Sold Out Game Awards is Non Canon the best Vidya is the one that i enjoy
ENTER:
>The Walkgend of Smellda: Tears of the Trannies
>Spiderman 0 Awards
>Spider-Man: Miles away from GOTY
$70 dlc
It was an uninspired asset flip of a fundamentally flawed formula. BotW did some things right but at its core it's an open-world game whose main content is extremely mid puzzles and combat encounters.
Ubislop. Anyone pretending it isn't basically a polished Ubisoft open world turd is properly delusional or they don't pay attention to anything at all.
BotW/TotK are the most soulless iterations of the franchise. They're totally uninspired, dogshit ubislop games. I knew right away if they put fricking shrines and all that boring crap into another one people would bounce off it. As soon as the hype died down people were dropping the game. Plenty of people I watched play it on launch quietly dropped it after a couple streams. Everything they tacked onto it sucked, the filler sucked. Building shit wasn't fun and doesn't fit the series at all, I have no idea why they thought that was the right direction. They had a chance to fix all the problems from BotW and make a proper Zelda, but instead it was just more of the same shit everybody burnt out on 5 years ago.
I just want a real fricking Zelda game so bad. 2D, 3D, whatever, just anything but this soulless time-wasting garbage. Even the story and setting in these new games is paper thin. I don't care about any of it.
>have no idea why they thought that was the right direction.
Old Japanese men soijacked all over their Kyoto offices in 2017 after seeing youtube videos of people making mine carts float in BotW.
ToTK's only saving grace is the meme potential because of the building mechanic. The rest of the game is nothing but boring garbage.
I didn’t watch it, but was Aonuma and fujibayashi really there? Kek. I hope they’re boiling with anger. Fricking open world garbage. Go frick yourself homosexuals
Fujibayashi seemed decently composed, but Aonuma was visibly seething when TotK lost Game Direction and Game of the Year.
TotK absolutely, above all else, did NOT deserve best direction. It didn't even deserve to be nominated. What the frick was there to direct? They reused everything from fricking BotW.
They're probably fine because they'd know more than anyone else that they made a half-assed kusoge.
I mean fricking hell, nintendo themselves said they delayed the game a year for bug fixing, and we also know that they outsourced the totk's writing to Qualia Writers.
It’s hilarious you calling ToTK half-assed, when BG3 didn’t even launch with a proper ending
Easy to have an ending when you have 70% of everything else already made for you 10 years ago.
What's your point? Idgaf about some other franchise, I care about zelda.
Pretty sure TP, SS, and all the side games have never won GOTY.
As a (former) hardcore Zelda fan, I'm relieved - no, ecstatic that ToTK lost and received the pity award for best action-adventure.
All that needs to happen is for the next BoTW-formula game to under-perform sales wise (and it likely will, now that the honeymoon phase has ended for most newfound "fans" of the series) and then maybe this franchise can finally get back on track with its core identity again.
Nobody believes you
Honestly, I would've been fine with the BoTW formula too, if Nintendo actually put effort into ToTK and improved upon its predecessor's flaws - but it didn't in any meaningful, worthwhile way outside of maybe bosses (which were still too easy, but to each their own.)
Doubt that's going to happen anon, but on the plus side the OoT / MM modding scene is really starting to pick-up since that major leak a few years back. I imagine my love for Zelda will continue through hacks and mods in the same way it does for Pokemon.
I don't think the series is going to get back on track until Aonuma retires
Or until Monolith Soft gets their shitty greased-covered walmart brand JRPG hands off of Zelda. Tendies circle jerking their horrible games is what led to this (they are not even to being the best modern JRPGs). They are credited as the actual game design devs in TotK, and it shows. Xenoblade is bad, and TotK is bad. The sooner people realize this, the better.
That's pretty much how I feel. Massive open maps do not make a good game. If you were to shorten the distance between every genuine point of interest and remove all of the collectable bloat that serve as low effort filler to pad playtime, I think more people would realize how bland they actually are. It's crazy how telling someone to walk in a mostly straight line for 55 seconds instead of 15 seconds, and telling them to collect 900 of the exact same thing, will make so many people think it's good.
WWHD refined and shortened the Triforce quest and added the faster sail specifically to cut the worst crap out of the game, yet Nintendo ignored this philosophy in BotW AND TotK and did the opposite.
At what point does Nintendo ever tell you to collect all of the seeds, anon
Why wouldn't you collect them? According to you, they're masterfully designed pieces of game design. Why would you skip such excellently crafted game design?
Here comes anon's pedantic backpedal about how 100% completion isnt necessary despite the game being a masterclass in game design which would incentive 100%ing anyway
You were the one that compare them to WW’s Triforce charts you frickhead. Y’know, the thing you DO have to collect all of to continue the game.
At what point is it good game design? It's not, and that's my point. They aren't even fun after the first 3 or 4, yet it unlocks weapon slots.
You're literally not smart enough to understand this failure.
based
shut up zoomer, I played LttP before I could fricking read, I played OoT in the first fricking grade, TotK was a fricking trashfire.
How does a game from 2023 have worse combat than a game from 1998?
>zoomer
I’m older than you, the first Zelda I ever beat was for NES. I had an OoT gold cart but it got stolen.
BoTW is my favourite Zelda, ToTK is only behind it because fused weapons are ugly and it slightly annoyed me. But still much better than any post OoT/MM 3D Zelda, because all those games were just trying to be OoT again.
Better to try and be something good again and not quite make it than try to be something shit again and succeed.
Except BoTW and ToTK were better
in the ways that matter less, yes. in the ways that actually matter, no.
>jealously cling to durability in their new Zelda about "not relying on convention"
>throw out decades of kino swordplay for waggleshit in one game
>remove thrusting
>remove proper shielding
>remove horizontal and vertical slashes
>remove dodge roll and all the WW combat
>remove all the TP moves
>Replace them with...TIME STOP DODGES YOU CAN JUST DO OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
>OOPS YOUR SWORD BROKE MID-TIME STOP GUESS THAT WAS A WASTE OF BEING GOOD AT THE GAME
Nintendo genuinely does not understand how to make a good game anymore. They're literally just too big to fail, the Ford Motors of the video game industry, and every year they release some new PoS for the morons and soccer moms to slaver over.
MM and Wind Waker were not just trying to be OoT again, that's bullshit. The only ones guilty of that are TP and SS and those have aged way worse.
Wind Waker absolutely was just "OoT, but with water." It follows the Zelda formula of "three dungeons, get master sword, some twist up and change, and then final set of more challenging dungeons."
And to be fair, the formula actually started with A Link to the Past.
I wish but Aonuma already has a successor and he made botw and tiktok
The funny thing is that the Fujibayashi era has been longer than the Aonuma era.
Aonuma: Ocarina of Time (1998) - Twilight Princess (2006)
Fujibayashi: Skyward Sword (2011) - Tears of the Kingdom (2023)
It just doesn't feel like it because the pace of releases has slowed down MASSIVELY.
Aonuma didn't have his own era until WW
That would just make his era even shorter and further prove my point. I picked OoT because it was the first 3D Zelda he had a director's credit on and he was attributed with making the 3D concept finally work after a lot of trial and error.
People are calling Fujibayashi his "successor" even though he's been directing the games for longer. His games just take a lot longer to come out and always feel undercooked.
Tendies mad snoys mad microshart mad, VGAs pissed everyone off.
Totk deserves to lose however. Don't slap together the same game, put a literal baby block mechanic in there then charge a full $70 for glorified DLC next time.
Why don’t you shut the frick up? Everyone knows that The Game Awards don’t fricking matter. We all knew it was going to be rigged. We all think that Baldur’s Gate 3 is overrated garbage that can suck a fricking shitty crusty fart out of my butthole.
Your butthole doesnt need sucking BG3 should suck mine instead I got some mighty turds to POWERSHIT down its throat
Talking about zelda on this board is a fricking pain. What happend to the /vg/ general? At least there I can have reasonable discussion without people screeching "DLC!" or "ASSET FLIP!" every 5 seconds.
>What happend to the /vg/ general?
Died because totk was a massive letdown. Why else do you think a Zelda general would die within months of a major Zelda game being released?
Because shitposters from Ganker kept raiding it, because they got someone someone on this site was talking about ToTK without screaming DLC every post
if TOTK actuallly addressed the issues of BOTW, maybe people wouldn't consider it an asset flip. Like the biggest problem being how all NPCs have plot armor, so you can't kill them and raze Hyrule to ashes.
You have to be kidding. Go play GTA, gay.
You want Nintendo to turn Link into a fricking GTA protagonist
Not a far stretch from turning Link into an Ubisoft protagonist.
>TOTK gives you complete and total freedom
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>turning Link evil
No, that's moronic.
They need to take a page from MM and force Link/the player to make important, harsh decisions regarding who they decide to save throughout their adventure. In MM, you couldn't save the entirety of Termina's population in a single time-loop playthrough, and gameplay scenarios would change based on who you saved or attempted to help first.
That's what the franchise is missing as far as side-content goes and it's embarrassing that they still don't have the balls (or talent) to tackle similar mechanics and narrative depth from a game released in 2001.
>a game released in 2001.
2000.
Frick, you're right, can't believe I forgot.
all the people who actually made MM-tier decisions and writing calls in those days is probably either trapped in the Pikmin mines or burned out of the industry forever.
You guys, this might be too much personal info, but did you frickers know I worked with a guy who worked on Battle Chess? It was like working with a rockstar, this old fricker who goes "oh you kids like them Vidjer Gaems?" but then goes on to whip out his legendary fricking resume. I won't go into it because I don't want to doxx myself or others but it was wild.
>all the people who actually made MM-tier decisions and writing calls in those days is probably either trapped in the Pikmin mines or burned out of the industry forever.
That would be Koizumi, who was forced to overtake the Mario franchise after MM (and it really shows in his absence. The Zelda IP never really recovered after he left.)
Japanese games are dead. The time is for China,Korea and West.
Capcom and Fromsoft are still going strong, but yeah - Nintendo lost their touch, talent and passion years ago, and it really shows. Honestly, the only game I truly enjoyed from them this year was Pikmin 4.
There were no GoTY ceremonies back then. Regardless, the game did some stupid shit with the forced time gimmick, but having scenarios change based off of the player's choice/interactions is something the franchise desperately needs.
No wonder why Japanese devs have inferiority complex on genshin so that they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics such as Elden ring,ToTK and Xenoblade 3.
West never manipulate metascore like this because they polish game and improve instead of bribing critics for they have technology to fix bug and glitches.
Left is China, Right is Japan in Pic.
Did ToTK and Wowie Zowie manipulate metascore by bribing critics, for inferiority complex against Mihoyo? For Japan don't have technology to improve gaming so they use them on bribery to critics, while West never does that.
Eh, when it comes to Nintendo, it has less to deal with bribing and more to deal with Nintendo blacklisting them from early content and literal fear from hardcore tendies who legit send death threats or doxx reviewers if they don't give their games a perfect 10/10 rating. Been that way for the Zelda franchise since the Twilight Princess Gamespot review fiasco.
>Been that way for the Zelda franchise since the Twilight Princess Gamespot review fiasco
Qrd?
Gamespot gave TP an honest score (8.8) rather than a perfect 10 and tendies doxxed the site in a blind rage for days on end, eventually resulting in the reviewer getting fired.
Granted, the hype for TP was insane back then; through the roof. It was one of the most hyped games of its era.
>Granted, the hype for TP was insane back then; through the roof. It was one of the most hyped games of its era.
That's every Zelda game. Every Zelda game is god's gift to mankind until a month later when it's somewhere between "really good," and "great."
I remember the hype, but didn't know about that review shit. What I'm more surprised by is Gamespot bending the knee especially as that guy who left The Escapist recently (the one who shits on all games in some way, shape or form) started doing his thing around the same time. I remember when the WoWtards went after him when he tried Cataclysm and crapped all over it, and his response was to double-down.
>MM baby
lmao reminder it never won goty either.
There's nothing to talk about, there's no depth to the game, the story sucked, the characters aren't worth obsessing over. What do you want to talk about, cheesing shrine puzzles because the intended solutions are fricking tedious? Doing everything possible to avoid having to use the build mechanic? How empty and pointless the sky and depths are? How disappointing the dungeons still are compared to games that came out 20 years ago?
It's mediocre, bland, and uninteresting. There's no depth unless you want to pointlessly wank around with the building and combining to do shit that's completely useless beyond making clickbait videos.
Zelinkgay killed the general
>muh asset flip!!!!!!!
Literally just the moronic thoughts of 80 IQ gays who don't understand the raison d'etre of the Switch Zelda games. If you don't think TotK is one of the best games of all time, I'm sorry, but you're a dumbass. There's no reason a shitty, cookie-cutter facsimile of a D&D campaign that just happens to have a couple cute girls should ever win over a game that so holistically accomplishes its mission the way TotK does. "What mission?" If you don't know you need to have a nice day.
You lost, and TotK is was recognized as a disappointment by everyone after the honeymoon phase.
Came out too early in the year. If the release date was flipped with BG3, it would have won.
what did mario galaxy 2 do right that botw 2 didn't?
>glorified DLC loses GOTY
Oh well. Who gives a shit? Tendies shouldn't be surprised that both BotW 1.5 and SMWonder took an L.
Maybe don't release a fricking mod for 60 dollars
Maybe make a game quality wise close to Ocarina/Majora/ALTTP again
1. Get rid of weapon durability.
2. Either commit to the game being an RPG, or don't have it try. Having health and stamina plus RPG style gear, but nothing really else is weird, and just makes the game look indecisive.
3. More areas like Hyrule Castle, and general dungeons
This is pretty much it. This is pretty much all you had to do for a BotW sequel, and they failed at every one of them.
People were talking (not seething like morons - actually talking) about BotW for at least a year.
TotK spent the whole whopping two weeks "blowing the minds" of both players and """developers""" after which everyone and their dog forgot about it.
It makes sense, really.
It should've not won any awards, but it's a Zelda game so it just HAD to get something, so the whole Adventure nominee lineup was moronic with no adventure games in it. Fair enough, I'd take TotK as the "best adventure game" over Disney/EA slop receiving any awards.
I would take a Twilight Princess at this point. At least TP has a good story with characters that are more than collectible playing cards.
I'm not joking when I say that they should make a direct sequel to Twilight Princess.
And I don't mean they should revert the gameplay entirely, just bring back the tone and the sharper focus on the main quest. You could still have physics and more freeform exploration.
Wind Waker (I know and love PH and ST, just hear me out) and Twilight Princess needed Majora's Mask-style sequels, ones that improved on their flaws or took the same engine and made a new world/area to explore with a gimmick that made it stood out. In the case of TP, we know they were trying to do a new story, one that was grand before it got sized down into the Wii Zapper minigame. Working on a deadline was very beneficial for Majora's Mask, as they actually had to try to do something while still realizing they had a time limit, which is very coincidental considering MM's entire gimmick is based around time, a feature that was prominent in Ocarina.
The current Zelda team needs that type of tension to bring out creative ideas and stick with them, but games today are too expensive and filled with middlemen and bullshit to actually try something fun.
glorified dlc
Japanese game used to be great and glorious like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse, Neowiz and BG3 so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P, Dave the Diver,Zenless zone Zero,BG3,Black myth Wukong reduces DMC5, Dark souls 3, Sekiro, MHW, Elden ring, RE4, ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
No wonder why Japanese devs have inferiority complex on genshin so that they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics such as Elden ring,ToTK and Xenoblade 3.
At least we Westerners still make good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, Diablo 4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,STARFIELD,
Modern warfare 3,Sea of stars,
BG3,Mortal kombat 1,
Spiderman 2,Remnant 2.
Phil Fish was right. Japan has no where to stand in gaming.
What is left in Japan?
Anime? Solo leveling is AOTS next year and China makes them better.
Comics? Korea makes them better,Webtoon.
Game? Mihoyo,Neowiz,BG3,black myth wukong mogs any Japanese game in ease. Even Elden ring,Sekiro,MHW,DMC5,RE4,ToTK.
Electricity? Korea makes them better.
Car? Hyundai makes it better.
Weebstuff? Blue archive dominates Comicket by booth number of 1600!
Porn? Banned from Japan by new law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!! But Area 11 of Korea and China!!! Vassal state of Korea and China. Hallyu and Zhong liu(China wave) blows upon Japan!!
Japanese games are dead. The time is for China,Korea and West.
No Japanese game won award this time, right? Mihoyo got 2.
>At least we Westerners still make good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, Diablo 4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,STARFIELD,
>Modern warfare 3,Sea of stars,
>BG3,Mortal kombat 1,
>Spiderman 2,Remnant 2.
lost you there homie, none of those are good games, also you talk like an ESL and use redditspacing
Totk is my personal goty
Of course BG3. TotK is too wholesome. A love story between a straight white male and straight white female.
BG3 got the troony vote it's as simple as that. TotK is still the highest rate game of the year on Metacritic
The amount of coping TotK fanboys are doing right now is hilarious.
>game from 2017 didn't win GOTY in 2023
damn that sucks
Japanese game is dead. The time is for Chinese,Western,Korean game. Black Myth Wukong will BTFO every Japanese game in ease,
In the end it sold better than BG3 and that's all that matters
33 millon sold for BG3, ma'am.
ToTK didn't have legs though, it didn't really earn many new sales after its first two-week blow-out. Which already indicates that Nintendo fricked up big-time and lost much of the newfound playerbase they accumulated from BoTW.
I suspect the next one will under-perform if it's more of the same BoTW formula with zero genuine improvements to its inherent flaws.
Is ToTK's metascore manipulated and bribed like TLOU2 and cyberpunk? Every game with metascore higher than genshin is good game.
I love TOTK and it's probably my GOTY, but the mechanic they added and advertised the shit out of is poorly implemented
>Fumbling a bunch of fricking parts around with ultra hand instead of just giving us a build menu on our magic tablet
>Some shit barely works like the targeting head
>Vehicles despawn if you go in a shrine or even talk to someone sometimes, which is actively antithetical to the games exploration focused design.
>Your shits gone if you die sorry
>Cost to auto build is ridiculous.
It's just so moronicly handled it simply has to be a hardware limitation thing
The cost of doing literally anything in TotK is ridiculously overtuned. It costs 2,280 rupees to fully upgrade just ONE set in TotK, IN ADDITION to farming an ungodly amount of materials for that set. And some of the sets themselves cost thousands of rupees JUST to buy!
This is NES levels of grindiness and there is a reason why games have move past this antiquated design. What's even stupider is that this isn't even a multiplayer game.
Considering how much having a completely upgraded set trivializes shit I don't think it's overtuned at all.
Zonaite is fricked up though. I make some fricked up jalopy and the cost is like 15-20 minutes in the mines farming to respawn it after it decided to dissapear. Absolutely moronic.
IT was literally the same exact game they released years ago except with a shitty toddler building block gimmick added on top
so if it isn't zeldagays and tendies seething at BG3 for getting goty, who is it?
Literally the exact same situation, but even more intense and elevated. Critical darling for one month, and then everyone realizes it's more like an 8/10.
Seriously? I still can't deal with waggle. Making every single fight against every single Bokoblin a minigame is just too much of a hassle.
I have never forgiven Skyword Sword for failing Skyloft's Silent Realm 10 times in a row and having Fi's advice highlighted in red being "you are acting erratic. Maybe take a break from the adventure and come back when you have a clearer head". Went back to Skyrim and never touched SS again.
I dropped it in the sand area when Fi spoiled the solution to a puzzle like five seconds after me encountering it.
>but muh game awareds!
???
>BoTW but floating islands and you can stick a bug to a stick didn't win GoTY
Wew, who could've foreseen that? Hopefully this means the next Zelda won't just be a lazy reskin of BoTW.
TotK is so good seething schizos desperately have to cling to validation that a better game must exist somewhere.
Classic Zelda Won
Open world slop Zelda lost
Botw and it's legacy will be buried. The next Zelda will be 2d and it will be amazing.
I want another lttp. Why can't Nintendo bring back 2d zelda like they did with mario?.
TOTK is a slow burn and moron filter, similar to death stranding. I was pretty surprised to see it get such good critical reception but people really do give Nintendo shit more of a chance.
Now Mario Wonder, that's a piece of shit. Literally just repackaged NSMB and the badge shit they added doesn't matter and Is useless 9/10 levels
Nintendo is really starting to show signs of their lack of artistic leadership. Aonuma's magnum opus was BotW, he has nothing left in him. Mario hasn't really done anything truly innovative in years.
>Aonuma
It was more like Fujibayashi. Or perhaps even a co-developer mix of Fujibayashi and Aonuma.
TotK was a disaster though; you're right about him; he's clearly washed-up now. Meanwhile Fujibayashi is turning out to be a talentless hack who was better off developing the 2D games. He doesn't have the talent or the skillset to develop a good and fully-released 3D Zelda, and it really fricking shows after TotK's pathetic 6-year development cycle.
Nah, TP was different. I can tell you weren't there when that initial E3 2004 reveal dropped, it was fricking nuts.
>Nah, TP was different. I can tell you weren't there when that initial E3 2004 reveal dropped, it was fricking nuts.
I was there. Not physically, but I remember the batshit insanity of GameFAQs then. But BotW 100% surpassed that, and TotK would have too, if Nintendo advertised it at all. You still had journos literally calling it a "miracle."
Japan's tendency to promote people into positions that aren't their specialty will never cease to piss me off. Mario and Zelda are very different styles of vidya, and Koizumi should've stayed as the Zelda guy. Aonuma only got lucky with MM, and because of that he's been the designated Zelda guy for 20 years now, all because of just one success. Pokemon has a similar thing going on with its producers, instead of choosing the guy that's most fit for the job (Morimoto) they're letting their seniority/favoritism take charge. Ohmori is a complete hack with that series, yet they won't let him go.
>Aonuma only got lucky with MM
MM wasn't even his brainchild, it was Koizumi's. WW was his brainchild, but its potential/development was cut short by the terrible reception to its art style.
Honestly I wish you wouldn't have told me that, because that only makes the drop in series' quality even more apparent. Koizumi never should've been changed to the Mario team, that isn't his specialty.
Fricking rightfully so. What the hell was he thinking with that art style? Genuinely? There was no basis for it in any previous Zelda. It's like choosing to make hyper realistic Mario. Everyone ABSOLUTELY had the right to complain about it.
I wonder if Anouma still seethes about the West's initial response to it to this day. I liked the WiiU remake but that's because they fixed a lot of the original game's problems (namely the Triforce Shard gathering) but I remember the first time I saw WW on the GameCube at a friend's place as kid and thinking it looked "off".
>Japan's tendency to promote people into positions that aren't their specialty will never cease to piss me off.
It's called the Peter Principle. Employees that perform well are promoted to a position where they become incompetent since the skillset required is different.
I still love Ohmori's excuse for not adding the Battle Frontier being that "adding extra content to a remake when kids have more options today via smartphones means we shouldn't do it". If that's the case why did you add the Delta Episode, Ohmori? Or Soaring in the Sky? Or Mirage Island Streetpass? Or previous gen's legendaries? Or DexNav? Granted, I did like those being added but his reasoning for the BF was still bullshit. As much as modern Pokemon sucks, the nail went into the coffin when they couldn't even be assed to remake Diamond and Pearl themselves.
I don't buy any of their PR responses, it's just an excuse to cover up their incompetent asses. Ever notice that SV didn't let you go inside of any buildings, gyms didn't have any other than a recolor for the same battlefield, and not even the E4 had their own special rooms? It's because they're cutting corners due to having to invest time in creating the overworld for Legends and SV.
almost 15 fricking years of disappointment. Twilight Princess was the last good Zelda game and nobody can convince me otherwise
LBW was an objectively good game.
LBW was decent. I'm not gonna knock it, but it just felt like a lesser version of LTTP.
>Twilight Princess was the last good Zelda game
You're right. There was ALBW, and I enjoyed the Hyrule Warriors spinoffs, but that's about it; those were the only outliers. Outside of those titles, it's been nothing but a downward spiral.
>popularity contest
Reminder that only 10% of the actual scoring was done by polling and the other 90% was an in-house panel of judges, it's not a popularity contest it's literally just some of geoff's mook's favourites
Award shows always weird me out. Everyone knows the critics' opinions on review sites are trash, but make it a spectacle with the same thing and people will treat it differently.
you don't even have to wait for TGA for this. People here will literally trust game "journos" when they say what they want to hear.
Maybe the true Tears of the Kingdom was from losing to BG3 all along
The triumphant return of a CRPG in the mainstream is what happened.
with Nintendos dwindling market share and completely isolated ecosystem they dont have a chance to win anything ever again. its so over.
It's a good game, but it's no breath of the wild.
Also, letting my sick ride despawn whenever I enter a cave/well is a dick move.
ITT sad old men kvetch about critically acclaimed thing not meeting their impossible to define standards and remember products from when they were children and their lives weren't terrible
If Terraria can continue to give me joy down to this day, Zelda really doesn't have an excuse.
Some 84 year old guy with liver spots and mayonnaise at the side of his mouth is saying the same thing about solitaire/minesweeper right now
>man doesn't need fancy gimmicks and flashy lights to enjoy a nice video game experience
Riiiiiing
Riiiiiing
why is it 70 dollars when it looks like a ps3 game? wind waker looks better.
>what went wrong?
Nothing at all. It's one of the best games of all time.
>dodge Elden Ring
>fricking lose to BG3
KEKAROO
Nintendo fricking deserves it.
>garbage PS2 graphics slop
yeah
Graphics are the lest of TOTK's problems, the cel shaded art actually looks great, especially on PC on higher resolution.
>snoytrannies so assmad they made a zelda thread
you love to see it
>find minecart and mine full of rock meat
>attach the meat together to make a giant meat orb, use rocket to blast that shit to the Goron chef
>He pays me for one rock meat and the rest dissapear
Deserved nothing
Feels good to be an Ocarina/Majora/Twilight Princess chad.
Erictroony, you lost.
Maybe Nintendo would win a GotY award if they made better games?
Erictroony, pathetic bump
thanks for agreeing with me
Arthurtroony, pathetic post
Why is Erictroony seething so hard?
Monolith seems to be the only one pulling their weight nowadays.
not enough gay sex
anon show yourself
Man, Erictroony is seething hard.
Didn’t have enough troony penis customisation or bestiality
>The Advertiser Awards
So a 3 hour infomercial with the "winner" based on who got their wiener sucked the hardest by journos is officially considered the de-facto GOTY now?
ummmm tendiesisters?????
i thought totk had it locked in??????????
Maybe if they released it as DLC instead of pretending to be a full game they would win goty again
Erictroony, you lost.
Arthur, TOTK lost. It's over for you
It's over for Zelda
It's over for Nintendo
KNEEL to the queen.
I accept your troonycession, Erictroony 😉
you lost to bear sex simulator i'm afraid
>TOTK dodged 2022 to avoid Elden Ring
>instead it got gangraped by BG3, RE4, AC6, Lies of P, Dead Space in 2023
Erictroony, that cope isn't working
They don't have to win every award they just have to keep making games that compete for goty. This series wasn't doing that from 2003-2015, that's a long time but it's back to being a top game again.
more like the topped game lmao
Erictroony, you lost
WHERE IS THE ZELDA gay THAT KEPT TELLING ME THAT TEARS OF THE KINGDOM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THE CENTURY
WHERE ARE YOU homosexual
Erictroony, this isn't working
Spamming is against the rules tendie.
Stay bearbroken.
lol I forgot that Arthur even made these posts. How embarrassing.
I accept your troonycession, Erictroony 😉
Tears of the Bingdom.
Wasted potential: the game.
This games potential is only limited by the players imagination.
And the build limit. And the frame rate. And the gachapon
But mainly your narrow imagination since none of those things stopped an endless stream of creations from being made and recorded.
not him but besiege, a game that came out 500 years ago still has its creations being posted here
zelda only got its creations posted here for like, a few days then it stopped being a thing
what a weird cope, your game lost
I don't want to hear about rudimentary physics engines like gmod and besiege that can't make this bridge
listen mate, 5 devs having a circlejerk on twitter about how much they suck isn't winning your game GOTY nor making it a good game
would you kindly have a nice day
Your game is not capable of making this
It is also not a goty level adventure game under this.
Pipe down.
my game is elden ring and it won a goty actually
Lol you fricked up buddy.
Yeah, games take ideas from other games
now tell me, why didn't tears of the kingdom release the same year as elden ring? lmao
Cope and seethe. You said something that would make Miyazaki himself tell you to shut up.
This is a new level of cope lmao
tears of the kingdom lost, you are upset and doing damage control
you forgot the fact that everything disappears when you enter a temple or exist it
i've seen people call zelda "seamless" and i think people don't know what that means
I can't believe erictroony didn't give the goty to totk
How can we even beat Erictroony, he's getting too powerfull
is this true?
tendies lost to a single transexual?
are they that weak?
He's backed up by the israelites and the left how can we honest white men compete
>when their favorite game maker actually only made their favorite game because he was inspired by the recent zelda
Damn that's gotta be tough
Who is Eric and how has he mindbroke the tendies so bad?
30 FPS DLC
Erictroony, you lost.