>Flash games got replaced by shitty mobile games that are full of intrusive ads
So what did we gain for killing flash?
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>Flash games got replaced by shitty mobile games that are full of intrusive ads
>Flash games got replaced by shitty mobile games that are full of intrusive ads
So what did we gain for killing flash?
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Security.
>Analyst Eric Seufert shared a link to an investigation by The Washington Post and privacy software maker Lockdown.
>According to the report, at least three games — Subway Surfers, Streamer Life!, and Run Rich 3D — send ad network Chartboost specific information about a mobile device. The list includes a battery level, Internet address, free storage, display settings, time zone, currency, country, and last restart time.
I don't see any security improvements
>last restart time
>battery life
>free storage
why?
data
data is literally more valuable than oil and gold at this point.
it lets marketing teams and advertising companies (social media platforms) can design better and more invasive ad campaigns
>data is literally more valuable than oil and gold at this point.
The exact opposite. Data can be gathered in such vast quantities that on the individual level you're worth a fraction of a fraction of a cent. That's why they need to gather so much from so many people, because the way to make money is to offer EVEN MORE data.
Data isn't valuable per se. Its worth is decided by overbloated marketing departments, middle management boomers, and bean counters desperately clinging to whatever metrics they can to justify their worthless jobs that contribute nothing useful to society.
The ~~*telemetry*~~ bubble is kind of like the dotcom bubble in the 90's. It will soon pop and then they'll move on to the next big thing(tm).
They can put a name on you without knowing your name
>This anon has around 20gb left of storage, charges around 5 pm and never restarts his phone
Bam, now they know its you every time
If your battery is always low then they can advertise long battery life phones, or storage space for people who are out of free storage.
They can build a profile on you based on data like this for price discrimination. Like I remember some travel agency or something like that would offer different things and even charge a cheaper price for the same stuff based on this type of data. Like if you visited the website on a new iphone they'd know you're bad with money and willing to spend more
https://www.zdnet.com/article/websites-are-tracking-you-through-your-devices-dying-battery/
Now we have personalized ads instead!
He who would trade freedom for security deserves neither.
The quote is that they end up with neither
nah
they used security as an excuse when it wasnt the reason at all.
they did it because companies like Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe etc didnt want people to continue making games, animations and other content for free that other people can enjoy for free.
They killed flash so they could generate ad revenue from games being put on their app stores and animations being put on youtube/etc.
They waited 10+ years hoping/thinking that flash would just die on it's own but it wasnt the case, so they coerced (ie: paid a bunch of money) Adobe to kill it on purpose and used "muh security" as a guise to make the internet community, zoomers and normalgays more than happy to let them do so.
And it still didnt work, we just reverse engineered flash or installed old versions and still use it.
t./f/ autist with 12 gigs of swf files sorted into subfolders on my hdd
Check out BlueMaxima's Flashpoint project, see if there's anything you could potentially contribute that they missed.
Most recent version is 10.1.03, with v11 on the way.
no need
i have a dedicated windows XP machine that hasnt been connected to the internet in almost 10 years.
perfect for old games and flash.
witnessing a real legend over here
wtf
can I see a screenshot?
>my computer was running fine until I got hacked by that flash game
we gainesd a world fvll of sovllessnes
everytime with this gays desouling the world the answer is always "security" security? from what...
>uhh bro you MIGHT get a virus if you continue to use these things so we VILL ve taking them away from you and you VILL like it
windows 7, Flash, and YouTube unlisting half its videos all had this homosexual ass excuse
i will murder all of the people behind this in an extreme and gruesome manner in a doom 2 WAD
based
desu
nerd
It depends. The flash games itself are fine tho.
>security
Why can flash games be played safely within Ruffle's sandbox then?
But it is secure! We keep your data safe from pesky hackers as we funnel it to chink companies, so it can be aggregated and auctioned off to the highest bidder, chud.
>they did it because companies like Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe etc didnt want people to continue making games, animations and other content for free that other people can enjoy for free.
This. Also people realized blocking flash meant no ads either, so the ad industry scrambled to push HTML5 so they could bombard the goyim with privacy-raping israelitevascript ads that can't be disabled without breaking sites.
Papa Louie has remained the same since the jump to mobile. Other than now having a price tag.
I get your point but it's a bad example.
So it's the same thing but you have to pay for it? That sounds worse.
...So in other words it's not the same, you drooling moron.
We? Nothing. Big companies? Money and less competition. They would kill every competitor and steal their money if they could.
>was still working on papas pastaria
>completely ded and saves gone
>But please buy our 2.99$ app with touch buttons!
Im saad
Just pirate it lmao
Yeah i just downloaded them on some random website
This argument is false equivalency. Everyone besides the most braindead of normalgays/children know phone games are ad-infested data farming shit. The problem was that Flash's relevancy was in freefall BECAUSE of the rise of apps and smartphones, plus anyone who still gave a damn about Flash knew to do everything they could to circumvent Adobe's israelite shenanigans, so Adobe went and cut off support.
>So what did we gain from killing Flash?
Jackshit because nobody wants to wrangle with HTML5 lol
>changing things that don't need to be
you WILL use it and you WILL like it
I dont know why but I have this contrarian reflex of using jpg2000, just out of spite. I dont even know if its better.
More like webPEE
So which Papa Louie game was the best?
I like the burger one
>Papa Louie
I wonder why they still haven't released a collection on steam for it
They're still making more, for one. There was a new chicken sandwich one like six months ago
>mobile only
GAMING IS DEAD
the smoothie one was top tier
they are all essentially the same game with a different skin, except the earliest ones.
the platafoemer one.
There's like 3 platformer papa louie games
>Material Sniper was never finished
its not fair
I refuse to believe people pay for Papa Louie games.
Did anybody here like Barn-flakes' stuff?
>Make a burger that's 1000x better than the customer ordered
>they still get angry and don't tip me
0/10
We as the consumer gained nothing.
Corporate entities however have gained immeasurable amounts of data to harvest and distribute to the highest bidder, the ever-beneficial revenue from everything involving unskippable ads, and a media template that's easy to endlessly copypaste to chase whatever tends are relevant to maximize their profits.
Reminder that phone games not only killed flash games, but also licensed games.
Is that the new Spyro game?
This is their best game. https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/603598
We learnt to never rely on a medium controlled by a company
Oh wait...
In a decade or so, nvidia will announce the deprecation of older versions of CUDA and it will frick up loads of old academic programs for shit like DFT
A taco builder? Fricking really? It's like you don't even know what the good Flash stuff was.
I played some game about aliens abducting Pikachu and torturing him. Can't remember what it was called.
god damn i remember these flashes and one line in particular
"look up the word: insubordination"
>get home from wage slave job
>play wage slave game
I shiggy diggy
I mean, if you remember correctly, the late era flash games were full of intrusive ads and bullshit pseudo-MMO content too.
For me, It's Quinn
Black personish behaviour
>Check the artist
>It's mostly furry shit
Why must it always be either furry shit or NTR shit...
>go to try and find some old flash thing
>it's still hosted on the creator's website, but you can't grab the .swf because every browser just throws up a big, "flash is no longer supported" over the content
>play indie game
>15-25$
>several hours long
>it's just "X game, but Y element"
>play flash game
>0$
>several hours long
>crucible of creativity
If an indie game has fewer hours worth of gameplay than how many dollars it costed then it wasn't even worth it.
>the only way to experience Homestuck in its originally intended format is through an unofficial fan-made browser
goddamn. I mean it's really cool the community made it but all the flash animations, minigames/walkarounds that push the story forward, hell even the fricking Vines are all lost. Now if you're a complete noob to homestuck you are forced to watch shitty YouTube rips on the official site.
sad! and kringle
No one should ever want to or have to "experience" Homestuck in any capacity.
You people are worse than the people GR15 was written for.
Frick you buddy, the fanbase is cringe but the actual work itself is still phenomenal. A tribute to the late 2000s internet of chatrooms/AIM, GameFAQs, and collaborative flash animation, with a story told over images, animation, music, games, vines that consistently broke its own conventions. There will be no other piece of art like it and yeah it's cringe but it also fricking rules sorry!
A ponygger troony managed to do that in a single music video, stop huffing your own farts:
>Chatrooms are only ever referenced in Hivebent
>GameFAQs is only brought up twice as an incredibly lazy Chekhov's Gun after the gamified story arc died out
>Collab animations only started being made after the comic went to shit
>Bringing up the Vine shit at all
Fricking newbie, you weren't around when Homestuck was actually good.
frick you b***h Cascade ruled and was the peak of Homestuck
also what the heck are you talking about the whole gimmick of how they talk in Homestuck for the first half is that they're messaging over IRC private chats
>he doesn't know the difference between a chatroom and an instant messenger
Ban zoomers from the grown-up internet.
Homestuck was never good. MSPA peaked at PS.
You're right.
Problem Sleuth fricking ruled. I read that first as it was coming out and stopped reading Homestuck as it was releasing around Act 3. Finally went back and finished it all during the pandemic.
ended up re-reading PS too and really love the stupid puzzle game bullshit over the wacky insane plot bullshit of Homestuck but they're both good in their own ways imo
>still seething after all these years
I just remember that one of the most schizo users on this website appears to be a fan of this
>So what did we gain for killing flash?
exactly that
advertising space
What even is sour cream?
Have you ever had cream before?
>lettuce on a taco
I like it.
What'd y'all think about Ruffle?
DoA ?
"I fricking hope Mike and that other guy get around to working on that open source Flash editor someday soon." is what I think.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamOpenFlash
Why would you need an open-source Flash editor when you can still download Flash?
I like Flash 8, but God damnit, I wish it had the brush options Animate has but with none of the fricking bloat.
>So what did we gain for killing flash?
Nothing.
Flash could have stayed, it wasn't bothering anyone, and could have been maintained by fans
>that are full of intrusive ads
Just turn off wifi. What are you gonna miss anyways? If its an emergency they are just gonna call you
Do I gotta do anything special to play those old newgrounds flash games?
No, you just use a flash emulator newgrounds recommends. Cant remember the name.
Sweet, they're pretty cool.
install the thingie they provide, they even give you instructions
I don't know, but if you guys have 3DSes you should really try order up. It's like cook serve delicious if it was actual cooking.
Mobile shit unironically ruined the internet, Flash was just another unfortunate victim.
tumblr literally went from 2005 to 2022, making you sign up just to use the archive function. Frick Yahoo!
Yeah i fricking that when that sign up pops up.
I mean i fricking hate that when that pop up starts up.
frick
You've got it all wrong. Web 2.0 ruined the internet. The transition from static pages to large layered services killed the internet. Mobile is a symptom.
Newgrounds' frontpage still looks like this, but the separate portals for Games, Movies, Art, and Audio have resorted to infinite scroll and look a little rough because of it.
>use infinite scroll specifically for large lists of content
Good the frick enough.
why would they do this? newgrounds has too much shit to get rid of pages if you actually want to find shit.
what game?
If somebody started up a new website, what would it take to make you start using it?
if you want to restore the old net, what people should be doing is making their own personal sites and having rss feeds
I agree all we can do is wait
They died because of greedy corporations and that flash games still btfo even proper games and were totally free
>classic Flash games are getting ported and are getting sequels in Steam and getting some mad cash, Epic Battle Fantasy, Swords and Sandals, etc.
>these fricks still won't port Papa Louie's games and Jacksmith
Are they allergic to money or something?
Is there any game remotely similar to these?
Didn't like cook serve delicious
Because flash was an aging project and there were better alternatives for creating web pages and web games
PORT JACKSMITH YOU FRICK