>flopped 3 times on 3 different platforms
shillmons and fursonas don't sell
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>flopped 3 times on 3 different platforms
>flopped 3 times on 3 different platforms
shillmons and fursonas don't sell
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A want a Smash Bros. game with only Pokemon characters
Same, here's my 45 character roster (Kanto gets the most due to copy pastes from Smash Ultimate and being most popular)
>Pikachu
>Eevee
>Ivysaur
>Charizard
>Squirtle
>Jigglypuff
>Arcanine
>Poliwrath
>Gengar
>Articuno
>Dragonite
>Mewtwo
>Typhlosion
>Pichu
>Umbreon
>Heracross
>Tyranitar
>Grovyle
>Plusle and Minun
>Flygon
>Deoxys
>Empoleon
>Lucario
>Garchomp
>Toxicroak
>Snivy
>Krokorok
>Hydreigon
>Genesect
>Greninja
>Talonflame
>Pangoro
>Hawlucha
>Decidueye (Hisui)
>Incineroar
>Golisopod
>Buzzwole
>Scorbunny
>Grapploct
>Perrserker
>Sirfetch'd
>Meowscarada
>Kilowattrel
>Cyclizar
>Annihilape
Holy frick that johto roster is stacked. You even added my homie pichu.
Making it a Smash clone defeats the entire point of making a Pokemon fighting game
yeah my fursona is a fricking chandelier
yeah my fursona is a fricking land shark-dragon
Fighting games don't sell
Smash, SF and Tekken break records
Those aren't aimed at a single group from a single franchise like this turd game
All of those shit games are dead.
Still sold well
and none of those are dead unlike that homosexual
no the only thing thats shit and dead is your brain homosexual
Didn't ask, take your L
>sceptile
grovyle is better
Never flopped. Had a DX version, proving it was successful.
The creator himself said it was a success.
Still has an active player base.
Got its own tournaments.
No need to cry because of skill issue
Not when dude megaevolvez
Post sales then
Post millions earned then included the arcade obviously
Arcades still exist? Rofl
Yes, in Japan there are arcades everywhere. Most of them are just filled with rhythm games, that one Gundam trading card game where you physically place your cards on the arcade machine and larp as Yu-Gi-Oh, gacha machines, and UFO catchers.
Pachinko machines are everywhere too, if you even consider those arcades. Keep in mind these aren't even games really, you just pay money to watch balls fall with videos playing on the screen and have absolutely 0 agency in how the balls fall at all. Japanese people love it for some really fricking weird reason. Gambling is technically illegal in Japan but they probably have a larger gambling addicted population than most other countries.
each port sold like 1m which is embarrassingly low for a Pokemon game
Well said. Such a fun game with fantastic depictions of our beloved 'Mons
>got ported to WiiU out of desperation due to shitty arcade revenue
>got ported to Switch out of Nintendo's desire to give every WiiU game a fresh start to fail harder in a pre-Smash ecosystem
>"n-nu-huh, it am wusn't am flop"
Jesus dude, it's been 10 years, you CAN admit it was a frick-up.
you being entire shit at any even semi-complex videogame because the brains of pokemon players is known to be well deep abyssed into down syndrome doesn't mean you have to vomit hatred over superior games. Hate yourself for being trash and moronic
>i'm le smart and genius for liking a game that didn't sell well and is always forgotten
Pokken tournaments
pokémon fans DO NOT understand what a flop is because literally every game in the series sells millions of copies. people are dumb enough to run around this board calling PLA, a game that sold 15 million copies, a flop. they have no frame of reference for what a flop is.
yeah a spin off selling 2.5 millions + arcade earnings and DLCs is a lot
IPs like sonic cant sell 2 millions with their major games
>All these ugly pokemon
No wonder it flopped
So which of your favorite shitmons are you seething that didn’t it make the cut?
I just don't think there's that much overlap between casual pokemon fans and fighting game players, and it's not a genre that is very welcoming for new players to pick up. if it was. Smash Bros clone instead it would have done a lot better, or even like a dumbed down Guilty Gear clone or something
Maybe it's because it's an arena fighting game more than anything; those games sells only if they are based on some anime I guess
It's 1/3rd arena fighter and 2/3rds of the time 2.5d traditional fighter... You switch phases after landing enough damage and you stay in the 2.5d phase longer than the arena fighter one in my years of experience. How many times does this have to be said to the idiots that have never played the game?
I didnt know that. Thats actually interesting and i wish i could play the game as a FGs and pokemon fan
Too bad you are a rude person tho
I think it was released as an arcade game
>Smears a piece of shit onto 1/3rd of your sandwich and forces you to eat 2/3rds of it
>"C'mon, it's not a shit sandwich. There's other ingredients in it too."
This coming from someone who actually really tried to like Pokken. I purchased it 2 fricking times and grinded 100+ hours into it. It has its potential but god I fricking hate the arena fighter aspect of it. They should have just kept it 100% 2.5D and rebalance it around that.
The shit Nintendo netcode also doesn't help. This game was made for arcades in Japan with consoles being a fricking after thought and it shows in every aspect. These cabinets don't even fricking exist in Japan anymore so it was a very bad decision on their part. I see the other Pokemon arcade game everywhere though.
Oh no no no Braixen sisters
How do we explain this to our pedo discord server who thought a pedo from Japan begging for porn made this game relevant lmao
>3 different platforms
Wii U, Switch and?
shitty convulted fighting games don't sell even if it's pokemon
More like fighting games require skill and reflexes, two things the average Pokemon fan lacks
>Conquest flopped
>Pokken flopped
>Smash 4 flopped
it fixed sceptile's design therefore it's a good game unlike the mainline games
it flopped not only because it had significantly low number of pokemon to play as, but also because pokemon fans dont play pokemon for the action style combat
pokemon should remain turn based
I'm just not interested in fighting games.
>trust me bro it starts getting fun once you invest 800 hours and learn 47 different matchups
>make arcade game
>only make it readily available in Japan for 70% of the game's lifespan
>half-assedly shove it out for Wii U
>update the arcade game
>refuse to update the Wii U game
>port the Wii U game to Switch, with minor updates that the arcade game already had
>charge the rest of the updates the arcade game got as overpriced DLC
If it flopped, it's because they wanted it to flop.
also happy to answer questions and maybe even to do some sets if people are interested
You can have fun with fighting games almost instantly: You just need to go into them with the mindset of trying to learn and improve, and ideally have some sense of basic fundamentals.
Even in your first few matches, with no prior context, you can probably observe when moves are safe on block or not or test punishes. You can't be sure your opponent is actually not just mashing buttons, but you can try things, see if they work or not, and then revise your assesment if it turns out your assumed wrong.
It didn't flop but you're correct that it was poorly marketed and supported and all the things you mentioned only served to prevent it from being more successful
except that there was never arcade content sold as DLC on switch, the arcades never got Decidueye even IIRC, let alone blastoise and aegislash
Not gonna read your autism. Nobody cares about your shit game, cope and seethe forever. You are on par with ranger, channel and snap gays.
>You are on par with ranger, channel and snap gays.
kekked
I will never understand why they only make fighting games catering to the online competitivegays.
I couldn't give less of a frick for balancing, as long as it doesn't infinites, just make a fighting game with a good solo/cooperative mode.
Fighting games are a multiplayer-focused genre. Competition is what the genre is all about. Nobody plays them for their single-player content.
>Nobody plays them for their single-player content.
Because there is no single-player content. Elden Ring is basically an open world SamSho, and it sold really well.
Elden Ring is an RPG. Those are single-player games.
Fighting games simply aren't designed to played solo. They're meant to be played against other human beings, not brainless AI.
>... is an RPG
So is Street Fighter 6, and people call it a fighting game.
>brainless AI
You know that fighting games needs to make the AI dumber or they would be unbeatable, right?
3 to 4 million units is a frick ton. Street Fighter 6 only sold 3 million.
Why does it become 2d and 3d
both the wii u and the switch didn't have ethernet ports, imagine playing a fighting game on wi-fi. doa
Pokken was really solid and had company support, which is rare for the side games.
It’s a tragedy that this was removed from VGC for a LoL spinoff. Pokken matches were more fun to spectate.
LoL Spin-off had pokemon that people like
not 10 people wearing fursuits, 2 pikachus, 2 Mewtwo and an objectmon
Very true. Pokemon fans are too moronic to care about game mechanics at all.
Also this game had a very poor marketing campaign both ports which no one itt has seemed to mention.
Why care about mechanics if the characters are not appealing?
people didn't use Chun-Li for meta purposes, but because she's hot
Indeed, alot of people play FG characters not for the viability but because they like them. However people play characters for a variety of reasons and many play characters because of their mechanical kit, their moves, the flashiness of comboes, how they change gameplay up. Aside from just "she's hot".
Alot of people pick Chun-Li because they like how much mastery and commitment she requires.
Any of this type of analyzing, practice or commitment is lost on 99% of Pokemon consumers.
you ignore the fact that Pokemon is for casuals who like pokemon they think they are cool or cute.
Only like 1% of pokemon fans care about competitiveness, and Pokken thought pokemon fans care about that. that's why it didn't do well.
Imo it was their crappy lack of marketing for it alongside that. Marketing changes everything
Pokémon isn't for filthy casuals, it is invaded by casuals.
Every OG kid playing pokemon here would've loved Pokken at first sight.
In practice, it is a bit too complex for them, but kids at that time loved Tekken even while just smashing buttons randomly, besides Pokken teaches you how to play.
Casuals want to stain this franchise with their NPC AIDS, but this mostly doesnt happen, and unfortunately they are the ones that remained the most because:
americans
passioned old time pokemon fans grew up and got a life
they dont want to pay or use time to play complex games. proving that Gamefreak told it right about excluding the battle frontier.
Casuals and Pokémon are in fact polar opposites at base. Which casual plays a RPG? Thats right, they dont even care about that they care about colored animals. But at that point what they want is entirely irrelevant because it isnt even a videogame.
Even Pokemon GO, Literal "Pokemon Casual version", got a plot and complexity to it and a battle system that requires still some effort.
OG pokemon GO was more like what casuals want. Da 15111111!!!!!!!!
0 effort catching
0 effort battles
nothing else.
Do you have a channel where you upload gameplay or are subbed to any on youtube? I was subbed to alot of noteable players but youtube erased half of them from my subs
no i just ever watched the official tournament ones and sometimes i watch those.
I also would like a Unite community i never found anything. Only indian groups that are almost entirely inactive and have 0 socialization
anon, pokemon is a thing because of casuals. pokemon wasn't just an rpg, it was a braindead rpg.
? It was already more complex than all old school rpgs i know.
The moves didnt even have a description and you had to guess their effect. They also didnt tell you which were special and which were physical.
Anyway that down syndrome sentence makes 0 sense in any case. All casuals do is they give billions to pokemon which expands it. But I just know if they werent there, pokemon would be much better off. It may not have a MOBA game, a tekken game, a photography game, a plane and an anything with pokemon on it but the main series would most likely be much better off.
At the same time, if mainline games are so filled with content and 900 quazillion pokemon in one game thats thanks to the billions anyway, so i dont know
Besides the fact that its hard to guess what wouldve happened. Miyamoto made pokemon appealing to casuals and a successful brand, otherwise Tajiri's vision would make a very different game from start.
what, RB literally tells you move power and type, special or physical doesn't matter since the game is buggy so you end up doing big damage thanks to big numbers
> Only like 1% of pokemon fans care about competitiveness
It’s the obviously far more. Otherwise Game Freak wouldn’t need give CHARIZARD so many overpowered forms, make the starters they want to shill so overpowered, nor would they shill DLC by locking pay to win mons there.
>Spin-off had pokemon that people like
this is fricking stupid
Pokken has the 4 main marketing mascots with pika, zard, mewtwo, and lucario; a bunch of hyper popular mons like Blaziken, Garchomp, Gardevoir, Gengar, and Blastoise; more niche but still fan favorites like Scizor, Weavile, Machamp, Sceptile, etc; out of field left picks like Chandelure, Croagunk, , etc all while covering almost every type, every gen, and multiple body syles.
Pokken's roster is excellent
The main pokken discord has always been, well, the main place people do Pokken stuff. Despite the fact that most Pokken players do play other games in the FGC like SF, Tekken, KI, etc;, most of the FGC has never really seen Pokken as part of itself.
There's some other servers that run their own events/tournaments and for specific regions, characters, etc, but most of them are still at least indirectly tied to the main server via specific people even if the main server does not link to them.
Ranked matchmaking is still active.
There's no forums which talk about the game I know about. Almost nobody used the subreddit either even if you wanted to use reddit.
Is the discord the only place to find the bulk of the community left? Is there anywhere else I don't know about?
>discord
they do nothing but talk about fricking pokegirls/furries
they don't even talk about playing pokemon
I don't know what Discord you're talking about but I'm talking about this one, the largest one which hosts large online tournaments, lists irl tournament and tourney locations and dates and talks alot about characters, matchups, the most noteable players for each character, doomposting about how much smaller the community is, etc. What you're talking about sounds like a /vp/ server and I've joined 3 before and sooner or later become swallowed by drama caused by coomerbrains you mentioned.
Oh sorry I misunderstand
forgot pic. It's public too to find on disboard
Anyway one thing i noticed is that pokken is especially popular among anglos lol.
I wouldnt have expected it for anglos to like a game this complex. they are so simple brained. I guess they like the combo bullshit and fighting games in general with little to no farming.
I love that aspect too about spin offs like Pokken and Unite that have minimal farming and setups, just a pinch of it to have some strategy and personalization.
And that's how mainline pokemon should be too.
While I have my own experience with anglos being the most bitter and unlikeable people to talk to on average by far I have witnessed some have a very good tendency to actually over-analyze things in different hobbies so I wouldn't doubt their potential here, but that is interesting anyway.
I used to play alot on Wii U for years but stopped and never got a Switch port. I might soon since this thread revitalized alot for me.