Raphael is a good antagonist because the following is foreshadowed and well done: at the beginning you can tell him to frick off easily, but at the end what he proposes is pretty enticing compared to the alternatives.
In comparison, Gortash is a poorly introduced Kal Leng look alike.
Yes it is, Raphael wants the crown so he can challenge Mephistopholes.
the non dnd savvy and avg grunt never realize this while they skip all dialogues and book entries.
Giving the crown to him actually undermines Avernus power somehow, which means: devil in fighting
Would this spill to the material world? nahh
would this spill in the blood war? maybe, maybe some tanar'ri would get fricked in the process too
But I suppose thinking is not a feat many take irl to realize that any shit that creates problems in the lower planes is a win to mortals and do gooders.
10 months ago
Anonymous
why would I let a random devil cuck have the crown instead of my party member?
>what he proposes is pretty enticing compared to the alternative
Not enticing enough. After the >She has the unconditional freedom to choose the only option she has left
line with Mol, I expected it to be a much more difficult decision than "trust a mindflayer or trust me"
With Gortash i honestly completely missed why he just massacred most of Baldur Gates nobility in his death trap throne room after i came back to beat his ass, having spend a good while on side business and taking out the Steel Watch.
why would you shank him in the throne room instead of his bedroom
10 months ago
Anonymous
I did have to go through there to get up to where he bunkered down after the ceremony.
10 months ago
Anonymous
why would you even take out the steel watch
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why not.
10 months ago
Anonymous
factory explodes even if you don't go there
10 months ago
Anonymous
Does it? I figured i might aswell take the place out after i already pissed Gortash off by rescuing the prisoners from the Iron Throne before i come for him.
10 months ago
Anonymous
well it exploded for me, though maybe it was bugged beats me
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because I was tired of having to fight them on every street corner of the lower city. It became beyond tedious.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Because I was tired of having to fight them on every street corner of the lower city.
what do you mean, they are chill with you even after killing Gortash
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what I did but they attacked me on sight. I killed probably 3 dozen Steel Watchers and their guard. Worst part was when I tried to loot the bodies and some gay from across the street noticed me and a new fight started immediately. Once I had a fight near Jaheira's house and she randomly left my party and and aggroed on me. It was an hour long fight I killed her, her family, 4 steel watchers and 20+ guards.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Did you not take Gortash's deal or go to his secret underground prison? I think that's what ticks him off
10 months ago
Anonymous
I was going to meet him but I wandered off as usual. Found some bawd in his dungeon and saved her. Didn't even notice but you might be right that my problems started after that. I still haven't met him in his castle or whatever it is 40 hours later lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
>go to fight Gortash >game bugs causing him and his cards to join the fight with the throne guards on a different floor from him >have to waste my time running to the exit to reset the fight >simply fly up to the top of fort and skip all the unnecessary bullshit
Why did I even expect him to be in the throneroom to begin with? He needs to get a life tbqh senpai.
moronic for a Chosen of Bane to be that petty tbh.
If he was going to kill them, why bother with the voting process?
If he already got their approval why go through the trouble with killing them?
It's probably related to the upper city zone content
Wyrm rock was incredibly buggy for me with non starting conversations, so maybe there is something the game was tryign to reach and couldn't.
It also bugs the Ravenguard elf simp in prison dialogues, and afterwards She tells about gathering allies in the upper city.
Probably something like the underwater prison event but in there.
Cazador also got a journal with some hints about Gortash being a new player and how this power dispute could change the local politics forever, and an unreadable book about the higher class of the upper city.
Talk about Bane always getting the short end of the stick
>pretty enticing compared to the alternatives
I would much rather ally with Gortash than give a devil genuinely godlike power from an era long gone, but I killed them both instead so I guess it doesn't matter
Raphael is fricking stupid because I wanted to join him and be a devil and shit but he never gave me that option DESPITE WYLL GETTING IT from his patron so I just killed him for being a homosexual
You think you have the quality to jump directly into recruitment? Don't oversell yourself. Warlock patrons are another story, but for a high ranking devil like Raphael to take a mortal directly to the conversion chambers is a huge formality and needs to be extremely worthwhile else he looks weak to every devil above him.
In the first place, that would only be truly worthwhile if you were distinctly stronger than he was, so you'd be his leashed subordinate and attack dog. But you can't outlevel Raphael in BG3.
10 months ago
Anonymous
well we murder his ass, in the counterfactual where that doesn't happen we're obviously worthy
10 months ago
Anonymous
Literally no one expected you to manage that feat.
10 months ago
Anonymous
He should've seen the "main character" tag when he examined me. Skill issue on his part
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You think you have the quality to jump directly into recruitment?
Wyll became a devil just for being an inept moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
lol no, Wyll is not a devil, he's hell inflicted.
he go thit with hell radiation.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Hell inflicted
No such thing. He's more like a half-devil. The more time you spend in a plane the more you become aligned to said plane and in Wyll's case he was forcefully dragged down through the different levels of hell
Raphael only cares about the crown at the moment he even wrote a hundred different books about his impending ascension as the supreme archdevil in his house.
Raphael and Halsin are perfect examples of why less is more.
Raphael turns up, is the perfect unctuous c**t, then fricks off again. He does this a few times per act, and he never gets old because his voice is god tier and perfectly sells the fact that he's a literal devil.
Halsin shows up, and in EA he's bro tier because he's the first major authority figure who's reasonable and treats you with respect you've earned.
Then as things progress he's just there. If he'd had the opposite role, the guy who turns up every so often to be a bro, he'd be 10/10
Raphael is a charming villain with god tier voice acting and sparse enough appearances that he remains interesting.
Halsin is a tag along who doesn't have any reason to be travelling with you after act 2 besides offering bear sex because you said hello to him a week ago.
>Raphael is a charming villain
he's a stupid villain, why did he reveal he was a devil in the first place? They should have had him be a helpful NPC that gains the players trust, who then attempts to trick them into taking a deal for their souls, have some books or other NPC mention they guy is dodgy, has caused probelms for people in the past so teh pakyer has to decipher out that he's more than he lets on, notes that he's been in and around BG for hundreds of years without aging or being an elf. Instead he turns up out of nowhere, pretends for half a second then transports you to his secret evil bad guy lair then tries to get you to make a deal. Everyone in your party chimes in and goes ooh deal with a devil sounds bad, other than astorian who just wants a deal for himself not even for you becuase he is an evil greedy fricker. It's like a disney tier villain, embarassing.
Everything about the guy is moronic now since his deal so good you can't refuse is basically irrelevant to any character who's not a gith or doesn't care about Laezel. And his warning about the Emperor never pans out if you don't free Orpheus lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
I guess he didn't account for an MC too stupid to see himself being manipulated
His words flow well at least and it's a big improvement over the rest of the game or all recent crgps really >A DEVIL IS.... AN EVIL SODOMITE..???? >I AM GOING TO SHIT MY PANTS
just play a paladin
Anon it's in exchange for the devil owning him. There's no rule a devil can't make a deal that allows the person to do good, they're thinking of the bigger picture.
>Whoa! Are you telling me that the LITERAL DEMON TRYING TO TEMPT THE PLAYER CHARACTER INTO A FAUSTIAN PACT WITH HIM isn't a morally upstanding citizen?!
Point stands. Were you expecting someone whose entire purpose is to tempt mortals into fricking themselves over with their own hubris and to generally spread misery to do community service work on the side?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Wasn't that anon, just correcting a secondary
10 months ago
Anonymous
everyone who plays 5e is a fricking tertiary or worse.
He's a literal Disney villain, down to having a musical number. Fitting for the whimsical tone of the setting, but it doesn't get more Californian than that.
>disney villain
Disney told stories that lasted decades. Just because it's disney doesn't mean it's bad, a simple story told well is better than a complicated story told awfully
>he let him or his friends get turned into a mindflayer for a moronic mindflayer who tricked him all game, and apparently, kept tricking him until the end
LOL
Imagine having a control freak wife and telling people she ain't that bad, while she literally signs on to appear on some reality tv cheapstakes program because she got 500 dollans out of it, you pat her in the back and say, gratz honey, before she takes the trash outside to burn, hell no she ain't paying for trash collecting services, later she brings you food she took from the trash because she ain't paying if she can get proper food for free.
The emperor is a shady bastard the entire game and then he refuses to put Minsc under his protection until Jaheira threatens to throw the prism into a pool of lava
>He didn't redeem the Gith and earn permanent residence in Lae'zel's frog pussy by freeing Orpheus, telling the Emperor to frick off and saving the day.
>Not turning Karlach into a Mindflayer so she gets to live without going to Avernus
oh dear oh dear
I didn’t use her in my party
10 months ago
Anonymous
No she doesn't, moron
10 months ago
Anonymous
yes she does, she gets replaced
10 months ago
Anonymous
Karlach is gone man she can't go for a pint at the local bar or do anything without being attacked, life as a mindflayer is isolating and she has to hunt for brains.
10 months ago
Anonymous
she isn't even Karlach anymore. She's a monster emulating Karlach's memories.
Withers says it very clearly: Mndflayers have NO SOULS. And being who he is, he would know.
If that wasn't clear enough, the dragon under the prison fricking spells it out for you.
10 months ago
Anonymous
In that world, Karlach is gone, Karlach the mindflayer is what ate and killed Karlach.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Dude, the mineflayer in her head ate her and transform her body. At most it may havve Karlach memories but it isn't her
10 months ago
Anonymous
I hope an AI one day copies you and then de-transitions the copy of you back into a man and makes you realize a copy is not the original.
He's the Handsome Jack of this generation only that he's way more dense, he spews unnecessary walls of text and he's nowhere near as charming, just really wienery.
There's an ambient instrumental version of it mixed for any conversation you have with him, that loops seamlessly in the background, but they didn't release those kinds of mixed tracks.
I thought it was the most soulful part of the game, you get told all the time that is a futile attempt and he is gonna frick your shit up.
You reach the fight and he has like 6 cambions and the foreboding pillars and shit and then Hope starts to sing.
Im sorry but if you didn't like it (the idea even if not necessarily the song) you might be dead inside.
It's funny that they put it on some other characters like Sarevok, but forgot to put it on arguably the strongest enemy you can face in the game save for the Elder Brain (that also doesn't have legendary resistance). Like some absolute jobbers get it, but extremely powerful entities don't.
The thing is, the legendary resistance they actually added only gives them a +10 to saves against AOE spells, not a flat instant success against any spell of their choosing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's only AOE? Oh man, that's so shit. The strongest spells against high value targets are direct disables.
Sarevok is no jobber he actually has the highest level in all of BG3 at 16 and that's one level higher than he was in BG1 as the final boss.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Sarevok made the unfortunate mistake to give a moment where you can just gang up on him though (Right when he opens the next room to sacrifice the elephant, perfect timing to jump him.)
10 months ago
Anonymous
I just brought Jaheira and he attacked with the whole tribunal and death knights in tow right then and there. Even so wasn't a particularly difficult fight to figure out since they can all be disabled some way or another.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Huh, i would have assumed you wouldn´t even get to him without going through the death knights first if you bring her along.
10 months ago
Anonymous
They actually don't remark on her at all, so long as you brought hands to pass the gate. Sarevok is the only one to actually recognize her.
10 months ago
Anonymous
On that note, it was hilarious that you then can just waltz into the Bhaal temple asking to prove yourself with "I murdered the Murder Tribunal" and they just go "Well, thats unconventional, but counts." while Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I was even wondering if killing them would give me any issues further down the line (what with the kidnapped companion and all) but I figured the god of murder probably wouldn't take issue with murder all that much.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, Bhaal operates fully on chaotic stupid.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>while Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it
That didn’t happen for me, as dark urge I killed sarevok, told the door I murdered the tribunal, then Orin spared my captive and 1v1’d me
10 months ago
Anonymous
She has a bhaalspawn rivalry with dark urge and probably expected it but it pisses her off as Tav
10 months ago
Anonymous
That makes sense
10 months ago
Anonymous
Thats because as the Dark Urge she actively wants to outdo you to be Bhaals true Chosen, if you´re just anyone else she´s pissed that you ruined the whole setup, turns Slayer and fights you while the cultists around that circle have all Sanctuary and channel a buff each turn that give her 7 immunity hits.
That bit was hilarious
>Kill biggest dick Bhaal boy >Orin thinks she has a fricking chance >Peanut gallery watches as you shred her through ritual and just leaves you alone
I did have to take out the peanut gallery in the immediate vicinity aswell, but yeah, the guys far off to the sides didnt even bother.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That bit was hilarious
>Kill biggest dick Bhaal boy >Orin thinks she has a fricking chance >Peanut gallery watches as you shred her through ritual and just leaves you alone
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it.
Halsin died in my playthrough because of her being butthurt about that. Couldn't convince her to honor the duel since I'm a Charismalet and she just stabbed his eyes out.
I used the Speak with Dead on his corpse and I don't think they expected that as questions/responses were all as if we were still in Act 1 with him talking about his valuables being in the grove and asking what ceramorphosis is.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oh she doesn´t honor the duel even if you pass that check in that case, the check basically is to have her refocus on dealing with you instead of shanking that person.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Frick him he is useless
10 months ago
Anonymous
They actually don't remark on her at all, so long as you brought hands to pass the gate. Sarevok is the only one to actually recognize her.
I just stunlocked him for 10 turns alternating between destroying the pillars and using Stunning Fist as a Monk while Lae'zel and Astarion just kept critting him. Cool fight all the same though. I thought I was fricked the moment I did a Level-6 Upcast Radian Spirit Guardians as Shadowheart and it immediately one shot her because of the reflecting damage I didn't read.
I instagibbed my Shadowheart in the same way on the first attempt, even though I actually examined the enemies, just forgot they backlash by the time it was her turn. Next attempt I figured I can sacrifice Hope to use Divine Intervention AoE nuke and remove all cambions on turn 1.
The reflecting damage is a pretty smart idea for the encounter design. Not only is the presence of good not welcome, it's actually harmful in the house of hope.
Music was done poorly throughout the game. While playing the sound track was lackluster. Then you watch the credits and all the songs are awesome and you realize that you didn't hear any of it during the game.
I played where I refused his offer and I broke into the House of Hope and killed him. What happens if you accept his offer and give him the Crown at the end?
Considering how curt and matter-of-factly every other character's arc is concluded, I'd say not much more than a two-sentence exchange in the last cutscene.
Literally nothing right now, but there is datamined cut content that shows him conquering most of avernus (which is an absurd notion because asmodeus would wreck his shit even with the crown)
asmodeus wouldn't care until it was at his door step, then he would just 1 shot the dude. asmodeus hides his true form and power and only takes action when he truly needs to
The dead three's chosen broke into his vault to get the crown in the first place and their heist must've went better than the one at Raphael's cause they got out scot free.
How those three stooges got in and out of there in the first place is a mystery. Thorm being immortal and likely bringing Balthazar along must have hardcarried while Orin likely was shanking random imps and Gortash being Gortash and only worth a shit if he is in a room rigged with traps in his favor.
No, they broke into Mephistopheles's vault. Mephistopheles has some valuable materiel for Hell's sake but also a bunch of worthless knick-knacks that only Meph himself cares about.
Asmodeus's vault is another level entirely, both literally and metaphorically. The infernal smuggler can't even get a portal to open on Asmodeus's layer. Read her notes.
Are you kidding? Asmodeus loves devils with ambitions who are willing to spread their influence via cunning and power. It's practically a nomination rite for a new archdevil.
Avernus is only the first layer of Baator. It can be taken. The first seven layers are completely expendable. Only at Cania (layer 8) do valuable things lay, and at Nessus (9) the invaluable things. The Nine Hells of Baator are designed for a war like no other.
You should destroy the crown
Mystra wants it because power
Raphael is the guy who came up with the original idea of using it for mass control, Gortash discovered this and stole it and the idea from him.
Different bosses need different tactics. For example i raped the hag with my rogue by dipping his blades in drow poison. Did not even give her a chance to retreat. The Giga Spider? Easy, used featherfall pots and lured it onto the spiderwebs once we were both on a web i burned the web and dropped the spuder for 50 DMG each drop(could've also just tossed her into the pit). Etc.
kind of. when he uses the pillars he has to transform to burn off the feedback or something. he just transforms and then transforms back next turn, or at least he did for me. it didn't seem like a big deal. he looks pretty cool when transforme though, pic related is only picture google finds of him
>when he uses the pillars he has to transform to burn off the feedback or something.
wow mine didnt do it but he was prone or paralyzed the entire fight so maybe that's why
Gotta love d&d derailment of villains. Only way to force it is with reaction based transformation upon reaching a certain hp threshold or dying/rebirth But you can pretty much only do it once per campaign or it ruins the player fantasy
>Spend all my time saving Hope >Good guy playthrough >Fight starts and try her Divine Intervention ability >Select the damage one >It Instantly kills her
Was pretty funny to just blow her up turn 1. Was gunna double Intervention with Shadow-heart. Even if Raphael felt harder im glad I saved it for the final slog of tedium at the ending.
Depends. A single hag with some minions in her lair is a boss encounter for a party somewhere at level 3 or 4.
However hag covens, which tend to consist of 3 hags, are noticeably tougher. Never encountered a coven as a DM or player, but I think they're for levels 5-8 or something.
The great thing is that the difficulty scales with how well-prepared the players are. Any hag worth their salt has the players in a bind one way or another. The hag in act 1 has the pregnant girl hanging over a pit. In act 3, she is pregnant with an innocent child.
Hags always employ lots of minions, which BG3 does very well with the masked people. They're clearly innocents who got outbargained into wearing the masks. Depending on how you handle things, the fight in act 1 either has you face the hag, her masked minions and an NPC you probably want to save who is in peril, after her lair whittled you down a bit with traps and hazards.
In act 3, there's the masked minions, her pregnancy and the resurrecting mushrooms. All tools that make the hag a threat. It's a treat to play.
Auntie was honestly the best part of act 3. Fricking Gortash's audience chamber and all the trap bullshit was the worst.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Next time, for Gortash
Just Clear the lower level, find the secret wall and go outside the fortress and behind it, then you can climb up almost to the top, then jump on the scaffolding and bypass most of the guards and trap bullshit
I did this for my 2nd playthrough and i 1 turn killed him by making 2 of my pewpew companions just go in stealth and nuke him
>Casts Tarshas Terrible Laughter on him. >Start bonking pillars and cambions. >One time he manages to escape the stunlock and nukes Hope to nonexistance. >Tarshas again and Raphael gets his shit kicked out of him.
Ascended Astarion with a speed potion, sharpshooter, arrow of many targets, that legendary bow, action surge, martial endeavor, and the psi ability to turn bonus actions into actions.
>speed potion
by the way, Is there ANY reason why this potion is like the easiest to craft, costs a pittance, and is so broken?
what were they thinking, hmmm??
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's stupid, it's haste in a bottle with no concentration. Half the shit in this game is so overpowered I think a lot of the devs didn't even play 5e.
>shares power with the dead three to make them gods >actively helps to intervene against all of their plans >calls them moronic mouthbreathers when they fail
What the frick was his problem?
He didn´t expect them to be so stupid to ascend a Elder Brain and try to get worship out of soulless beings. They outdid themself in coming up with a really stupid plan bound to backfire.
>Be Jergal >Doing your duties as Lord of the End of Everything >Been thousands of years, getting pretty tired at this point >Take 3 of your disciples, split up your power, promise they can take over if they don't frick things up >They frick things up and come up with a plan that essentially destroys souls, which literally every god requires >Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
>actively helps to intervene against all of their plans
>Be Jergal >Doing your duties as Lord of the End of Everything >Been thousands of years, getting pretty tired at this point >Take 3 of your disciples, split up your power, promise they can take over if they don't frick things up >They frick things up and come up with a plan that essentially destroys souls, which literally every god requires >Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
>Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
He does fricking nothing though?
He brings folks back if you manage to say, have them go down a chasm and such, they got proper reactions even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L48xPHQQkMA
Withers technically isn't reviving people if you pay attention to what he's saying. He isn't bringing them back to life, he rewriting their fate in history so that they never died to begin with.
>implied he’s the reason you even crashland and escape
everything that happens to you is due to the macguffin artifact with a pocket dimension entity inside of it backseating your existence
jergal is just along for the ride and occasional divine intervention handouts
>withers refuses to resurrect the bard you dirge out of mercy due to you so royally fricking murdering her that staying dead is a better alternative to resurrection >Withers comforts (You) as durge if you choose no romance as to not kill any companions >the speech he gives at ~~*that*~~ part >his epilogue monologue shittalking the dead three after getting jobbed by their son/daughter/niece/nephew
Withers is, dare I say, ludokino
>>his epilogue monologue shittalking the dead three after getting jobbed by their son/daughter/niece/nephew
to be fair you kill a lot of people during the game
>Be Jergal >Doing your duties as Lord of the End of Everything >Been thousands of years, getting pretty tired at this point >Take 3 of your disciples, split up your power, promise they can take over if they don't frick things up >They frick things up and come up with a plan that essentially destroys souls, which literally every god requires >Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
>Mind Flayers don't have Souls
There are literally Illithid Petitioners in the lore.
The devs at Larian are fricking moronic.
You're reading it poorly. Mindflayers destroy the host's soul, they possess their own souls but rarely do they use them meaningfully due to their brain cultist society. So it would starve out the gods due to mass purging believers and replacing them with useless unbelievers.
Is regarded as a funny joke by most illithids. At their most respectful, it is a being of formidable power and worthy of respect, but not of dedication.
Going anywhere except the Elder Brain is a sin in illithid culture. Only the really weird oddballs choose to venerate Ilsensine as a god and master or pledge their souls to it. Other illithids regard these zealots much like muslims might regard suicide bombers. Perhaps well intentioned and noble in their own way, but also totally fricking berserk lunatics.
Never had a problem, he hangs just fine with Kelemvor, who actually does the job properly
it's just that the jobber 3 are the three stooges of the forgotten realms
Same. Shar fight was the only one I needed to reload multiple times for and even had to prepare for it properly with potions, buffs and preparing proper spells.
I was used to having my Shadowheart healing everyone to 100% all the time as I rerolled her into a dedicated healer. With everyone having "chilled" 100% of the time and everyone being blind in the shroud and frequently stunned (or feared I don't remember), it was pretty difficult.
ohh
my fighter gave those c**ts the dozens of smokepowder grenades that were just accumulating in my inventory throughout the game
10 months ago
Anonymous
I killed my Shadowheart with her own radiant spells because I was to moronic to read that they all return 2x radiant damage that they receive. I just saw that they are susceptible to it and kept doing BIG damage while isntakilling my SH lmao
I literally killed Orin in 2 character moves. Astarion knocked all of her 'Invulnerability' charges with various poison/fire hits then Lae'zel knocked her on her ass and crit 3 times in a row. Had more trouble killing the rest of the cultists afterwards thinking there'd be a phase 2 like Kethric, but that was it.
Used that against the dragon and emperor and the b***h squad, was pretty good
mindflayers don't have souls but what about elder brains
They're a literal amalgamation of illithid brains, I don't see how they could have one
I think illithid petitioners are lame as frick by the way. Why would a tadpole have a soul?
Also wondering how ioualum or whatever could transform himself into an elder brain, considering they're ulthilid or whatever in origin. Sid he just hijack the process? How'd he do it when he was a rotting lich?
>Also wondering how ioualum or whatever could transform himself into an elder brain, considering they're ulthilid or whatever in origin. Sid he just hijack the process? How'd he do it when he was a rotting lich?
Ioulaum is the second strongest wizard to ever walk Toril, only a shade inferior to Karsus. His level of bullshittery makes Elminster look like he's illiterate. He probably transplanted his own mind via some epic spell.
I have no idea how. They were all so weak that I just cast a high level Spirit Guardians and had Shadowheart run around them. Plus by that point in the game you have 5th or 6th level spells. With an astral deva and an elemental myrmadon at your side you can pretty much stomp everything systematically.
>have 3 sit on top of stairs > have 1 person with high initative run up and run back to the stairs >everything is grouped up at the bottom >drop a cloud kill >start fireballing while martials push things back into the death zone >keep some spell slots open to counterspell silence spam
Thats how i did it on tactian
There's a little bridge right outside the Foyer that leads to the rest of the house. I didn't close the door behind me when the encounter started so Raphael ran straight to the bridge after transforming, and Yurgir followed him, blasting him into the chasm.
Did Gortash have anything good to say? I never met him in his Throne Room until after disabling the watchers. By the time I came back the whole keep was hostile. Didn't have any dialogue and everyone aggroed from the top floor to the base floor (where the waypoint is). Made it kind of easy.
Also for some reason Wyll's dad was there and wanted to kill me too? Didn't really understand.
The Raphael fight was absolutely the peak of the game.
I took the deal and reneged on it like a true motherfricker.
I failed to save Hope because I used her for a Divine Intervention nuke and the infernal retaliations killed her instantly
loved it first time i did it
But now, my main char has somehow 4 initiative and it skipped his turn for some reason, so this game can get raped by a Black person for all i care now
>1st playthrough >balanced party of paladin, cleric, barbarian and warlock >kill himafter a billion save scum >2nd playthrough >4 half-orcs unga bunga melee party >one shot him without even using Hope
>You want to free yourself from the Elder Brain >So do I >You want to free Orpheus to help fight the brain, and then free both of us >If we don't work together, we have no chance at survival >Therefore, I'm going to join the Netherbrain, frick you
What kind of absolute fricking moron logic is this?
He values his own life over everything else, including his freedom. thats why he killed ansur, thats why he thralled duke stelmane and ate part of her brain, to him your group are just his thralls and if you go against him, he will force you to do what he wants
Given Jergal himself tells you that they're soulless abominations who deserve the day of the sperm whale, I'd open the window to check if he said the sky's blue
You've heard this guy's story and you don't realize he's a control freak? He'd rather give up than strive for victory with someone else calling the shots.
This is what happens when you try to write a sensible plot but then begin to use Marvel movies as a guide, there needs to be an epic subversion at the end.
Pretty much. >DUUUUUUUUUUUDE THE NETHERBRAIN WASN'T BEING CONTROLLED BY THE DEAD THREE'S CHOSENS ALL ALONG IT WAS PRETENDING TO BE CONTROLLED...WHY???? IT JUST WAS OK???
Pure garbage.
>WHY???? IT JUST WAS OK???
It was part of the plan. Literally everything up to the Emperor choosing to eat Orpheus/you deciding to free Orpheus was part of its plans, because its plans couldn't handle an active mindflayer with Orpheus's protections.
>the narrative
the netherbrain being imprisoned and forced to comply to the demands of the chosen, was the one who put the idea and information of the weapon and orpheus in circulation to mortals who then looked for it openly.
it used the knowledge of the emperor to create a counter force to the dead three chosen for its freedom.
Shar sends Shadowheart on a mission to recover the artefact to interfere in the elder brain plot.
Shadowshart gets captured and infected. Eventual main story party members also get captured and infected.
Dragons attack the nautiliod that Vlaakith knows the artefact is on.
Everyone escapes and emperor saves OP from a death fall, even though squidward is too far away with Shadowfarts to do so.
Implied intervention.
Player proceeds to move forward in the game to kill the dead three chosen.
Player frees the netherbrain. And fails to dominate it with the nethercrown shards. >You fools. You did as I planned. It was me all along.
The story only makes sense if you do a Shadowdart playthrough.
The three stooges not being in control seemed really obvious to me, even just by how they've put that crown on an elder brain to turn it into a god. In what timeline does that end well for them? The only question was HOW they were going to get fricked in the ass by it.
IIRC its a ship of Theseus moment the mindflayer has fully devoured the person it was attached to and now carrys around its memories and ideas but that doesnt necessarily mean its the same person its like the Thing movie even the person itself believes its still itself but deep down the mindflayer part is on %100 survival mode
there has to be someone who is so heroic, so larger than life, that his memories would "turn" the flayer completely.
this happened in Marvel's Secret Invasion (comics not show) the Skrull created from Mar'vell's DNA and memories was so overcome with how heroic and pure he was that he chose to embrace the Captain Marvel persona over his own and sacrificed himself to save innocents during the invasion.
Balduran had some really shitty luck considering he escaped that werewolf island from BG1 and then blundered into a mindflayer hive right after. Should've taken his dragon buddy with him they would've got destroyed.
Its shit enough to have bad rng, but then throw that in with spells bugging out i ragequit this fricking thing, pets breaking my concentration spells being one.
Speaking of, does Warding Flare even work properly? I had Shadowheart burn a reaction every turn and I'm pretty sure the rolls didn't change at all.
Not like it really matters, but if it was going to be like this, I'd have made her choose a domain with heavy armor.
Why did they make 12 level cap? I hit it at the start of act 3 and now almost 40 hours late every fight since then has felt pointless. I want to level up ffs.
*8 times with action surge and with more feats and stats than any other class. That's 16d6+40+80 damage with max strength, great weapon master, and no magic items. Force cage is bullshit though.
Doesn't change the fact that the level progression is pretty fricking trash. RPGs incentivize getting stronger/richer after every milestone, be it finishing a minor sidequests or a major story quests. The fact that the game is too easy doesn't help either.
Leveling up in 5e doesn't make you that much stronger, except for some milestones (fighters extra attacks and some high level spells, mostly). You couldn't have the level creep of the Pathfinder's games where encounters must have 40 str and dex to be a threat.
I see 5e as a casualisation in reaction to 3.5e (and Pathfinder) where you can really get fricked building your character. In 5e, all characters are viable but a bit boring. I like the diversty of 3.5e better, but you kind of need a PhD in it to make competent builds.
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I don't know shit about 3.5 but everything seemed pretty easy playing weapon master
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3.5 isn't that much more complex than 5e, it just has more bloat and esp. skills that are arguably redundant
pathfinder is the one where you basically need a build guide, in 3.5e doing all the obvious stuff is fine outside of super high level campaigns
My tenser transformed great invisible hasted great heroic arcane trickster killed most things in a few rounds, indeed after spending a dozen rounds of prep time.
How are you in act 2 and have only 15AC? I don't care if you're "not tanking", that's unacceptably low - esp. when that medium scalemail doesn't have a dex cap. Slap the bulwark bracers on him before you get locked out of the act 1 map.
You have a frickton of accessories to improve AC for members without armor (like Gale). Also, cloak of displacement. Also, mages have mirror image for a reason.
You know wizards can wield a shield in the off hand for a free +2AC? Respec and give him 16 dex (as you should as it stacks on top of mage armour) and you have 15AC without buffs. 15AC is what most encounters are designed around in the tabletop and 10AC is practically defenceless. And then buff as
You have a frickton of accessories to improve AC for members without armor (like Gale). Also, cloak of displacement. Also, mages have mirror image for a reason.
I meant to use the Divine Intervention to get the weapon before the fight ended, but I forgot. Are the weapons you get from that even good or is it just a waste?
That's s uppoed to be a good thing? I used Divine Intervention before I burned off the anti-radiant buff ont he cambions and my Hope got blasted for around 300 fire damage. RIP.
>everything was going exactly as planned >on the eve of finishing their evil plan Orin decides to lobotomise Durge at the very last second >Durge comes back as a brain damaged Lawful Good Paladin dead set on tearing the Absolute apart
Oh no!
i thought it only works in act 1. the Ogre showed in act 2 and asked to get paid. killed him which was good, since he had a helm that gives you four int (no wonder he was smart). now i can use three more spells.
This disgusting homosexual likes to take it in the ass. He's a fricking bottom. I don't care that he's a devil. I don't care that he steals souls. I don't even care that he tried grooming Mol. But I draw the LINE at him being a DISGUSTING homosexual THAT LIKES TAKING IT UP THE ASS LIKE A WATERDEEP prostitute. Fricking disgusting. I will kill him on every run.
About to beat the game, is there any way to both kill the Emperor and not turn into a flayer? Or just an ending where you "win" and don't turn into a flayer.
I got the ending where you take over the elder brain and remain human
How do I accomplish these?
t. finishing the game tonight with friends where I have told the emperor to frick off and haven't used a single squid power while they have been "abusing" them
gith are doomed with that moronic b***h of vlaakith alive anyway and not worth of it as race since some earthBlack folk managed to beat the thing they excel at
I mean.. sucks for the Gith, but they are the least likable race in the whole setting, even the fricking Drow and Black person dwarves will barter or deal with other races from time to time, not the Gith.
complete fricking morons ideologically captured by a Lich and think they are better than everyone and regularly get whooped for it.
kill Raph
get hammer
use hammer
one of your friends will prob turn into a squid tho
Define "use it". Is it a dialogue option or do we get taken to the dream place before/during the brain fight? My friend has the hammer currently, though I think I can convince him to free him.
his boss fight was the most kino of the game, perhaps one of the most kinos boss fights in decades, they should have scraped the whole endgame and made Raphael with the crown of Karsus the last boss, the dead tree chosen should have been people he tricked in to controlling the elder brain with the stones.
his end game was getting the artifact because the Emperor held not only Orpheus power could control ilhitids, the Emperor had the hammer that could be used to reforge the Crown and make him a god.
How I did it:
Rogue level 1 for proficiency so I could be Mr. Smooth Talk Man because Tactician is easy
Monk for 5 levels to double attack
Rogue for 2 more for 2 bonus actions (for punches and flurries)
use light armor, no armor, whatever is highest AC. I used Medium I think because I took a feat for it after Tavern Brawler. You get so many STR increasing shit in this game it's more than okay to take a half feat. I used a shield always because I was a human. I had 20-24 AC all game so it was fine. Gloves of 18 dex are early and they are perfect to wear until you get the endgame gloves you will use for all of 1 hour.
Endgame I found a heavy armor that let me use it without prof so I wore that.
if you're going to wear armor at all you don't need any wisdom. You can leave it at 10 but with 12 I landed a lot of my stuns still. I rarely used it though because BAs were for knockdown flurries.
i´m on my second playtrough going evil drudge oath breaker paladin and instaled a lot of mods with new 5e spells and a bunch of new items and level 20 unlocked, pretty kino
hey wait didn't they claim there was like 1700 endings
and in reality we got 1 with like 3 different 10 second scenes depending on Karlach, Gayl, and Astarion shit?
The ending was my guy saying "I can't wait to get out of this shithole" and then Karlach dying, Astarion running away screaming like Team Rocket while everyone laughed at him and didn't give two shits, and then the credits
I truly believe act 1 and 2 are 9/10, but act 3 is barely a 5/10 it really fricking demolishes the game, I still love it but the 10/10 reviewers clearly never got past moonrise
Pretty much all of Act 3 needs significant overhaul and patching, ESPECIALLY the ending and the major boss fights, most of them are either broken or flat out unfun
I'm in the middle of my second playthrough and loving it - but I've stopped just before finishing act 2 because I know what's next, it's Divinity OS 2 with Arx and the nameless isle all over again
i prefer arx and nameless isles over bg3 act 3. even the quests seem less focused and crafted like the find the murderer quest from the flaming fist guard. "we can't find any clues" you go to the crimescene and a fricking note is just sitting there giving you the info you need. that would have not been in act 1 or in dos2. it was like end of devolpment we have a quota on number of quests just shit them out
I stunned him with Gale (switched him to monk) and then used Hold Monster until everyone killed him dead
I had to channel divinity from Hope to get a full party long rest during the fight but after that it was piss easy. The devil adds gave me more of a trouble
dude after that boss fight I wasn't challenged by anything in the game so I just went to the final act and murdered everything easily
Karlach (Mind Flayered) and my monk gale fricked up everyone so much
I just got into the lower city and mostly completed the sewers. How much of act III is left? I'm loving the game but I'd like to finish it before ACVI.
if bg3 ended at act 2 it would be one of the most polished completed rpg experiences of all time
with act 3 included. dos 2 especially its de which added content to arx is overall is a better put together game
I liked BG3 all the way up to act 3 but it was still good until then. I tried to play through Divinity 2 on four separate occasions and it just never clicked with me. If that answers your question.
I like the adapted tabletop crpgs more than compare homebrew crpgs like pillars and divinity more often because the magic in dnd is truly unrivaled. hate basic ass elemental shit
>Get to act 3 >Get imprisoned to skip over the bridge and enable the waypoint >Have Jaheira in ur crew and go straight to the counting house and do the quest >Go to the top left part of steelwatcher industry >Enter the "KEEP OUT" door in the small "park" >Do fight >Turn on non lethal for Minsc >Recruit him >You can now enjoy act 3 as its meant to be played with Jaheira and Minsc in your party
The guy + boomer jaheira makes it so much more fun, shame most will get Minsc like 70% through act 3.
You know what the best part of the end game was? >Oh boy let's use one of these summons to see what happens! >oh well that's pretty cool, it made 5 friendly units >oh wow it sure is taking 15 minutes a round for the NPCs to go....
fricking misery
Why? I didn't use them after that because I am not a fan of 10000 minute NPC turns. The homosexual brain got killed in one round vs a fighter and monk.
So im almost there again since its 2nd playthrough
You can if you want skip the stair bombardment and just rush up there to the door
But i vaguely remember, and im not sure, can you just rush into the netherbrain and nuke it in the few turns you have? i dont remember if you actually DO have to fight the shit at the big brain fight
Amazes me they don't have an option to skip NPC turns or at least to fast forward their movement and skip the stupid downtime between actions. Larian has made 3 turn based games now, there is no excuse for missing the most basic shit like that.
the infuriating part is they DO have that. When like 4-5 minions that are the same need to dash and are controlled by the CPU, you'll see them all do it simultaneously
Confirmed that you astroturfing larian troons were shilling a game that has just as much shitty practices as AAA games. Congrats, you are the same cancer you claim to hate
even with the shit act 3 and endings, its still goty and deserves its critic rating, because critics are garbage anyway, and Larian compared to 99% of game devs are above them all.
because it's there, and maybe for RP reasons
but it did feel dumb to have divine intervention after she turned her back on Shar
I didn't get the impression from the narrative that she'd become a full Selunite zealot so it seemed more like she was between gods
No, cleric and paladin canon abilities are granted by a deity directly. They can revoke them if you act out of line and one day if you enjoy eating children too much, you will wake up powerless if you were a good aligned divine spellcaster.
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>paladin
not anymore
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Yeah, you have oaths now, they functionally work the same way, unless you're an evil paladin, but then you will have your powers taken away if you help old ladies cross the street too often.
You will never maximize your potential in a game such as this, you will just go for the easiest at your ready solution and you will forget most of whats possible.
The game is piss easy as is but also showers you in tools that are quite frankly needless that allow you to straight up trivialize the encounters. You can beat Raphael turn one by stacking fricking barrels, like in any Larian game, and you don't even need to try hard to assemble such a thing, all you need is an invis potion to dodge the debtors and put the fricking barrels at the start before you grab the hammer. You would actually need to use all the tools in your box and require multiclassing to be mantadory if the fights you undertook demanded you maximized your potential, like SCS Insanity/Ascension does.
as an item hoarder playing a dex main with no carrying capacity it is a nightmare. Going back to camp to compare some new magic item vs the hundred other magic items, a pouch with so many fricking potions weighing me down, half my inventory is scrolls, the other half is throwables. I can toss it all on my babarian but that's 2 inventorys I have to micro manage.
There isn't really a pressing need to use any consumables other than haste/heroism/strength pots and weapon oils if you melee. Even fewer if you are a caster.
Out of all the content content to cut they should’ve cut him
But enough about Halsin
Halsin is better than a clearly evil devil.
>bestiality bait
>better than anything
I mean Raphael is at least entertaining so I think he's served his purpose.
Raphael is a good antagonist because the following is foreshadowed and well done: at the beginning you can tell him to frick off easily, but at the end what he proposes is pretty enticing compared to the alternatives.
In comparison, Gortash is a poorly introduced Kal Leng look alike.
>but at the end what he proposes is pretty enticing compared to the alternatives
no it wasn't, wtf
Yes it is, Raphael wants the crown so he can challenge Mephistopholes.
the non dnd savvy and avg grunt never realize this while they skip all dialogues and book entries.
Giving the crown to him actually undermines Avernus power somehow, which means: devil in fighting
Would this spill to the material world? nahh
would this spill in the blood war? maybe, maybe some tanar'ri would get fricked in the process too
But I suppose thinking is not a feat many take irl to realize that any shit that creates problems in the lower planes is a win to mortals and do gooders.
why would I let a random devil cuck have the crown instead of my party member?
>what he proposes is pretty enticing compared to the alternative
Not enticing enough. After the
>She has the unconditional freedom to choose the only option she has left
line with Mol, I expected it to be a much more difficult decision than "trust a mindflayer or trust me"
With Gortash i honestly completely missed why he just massacred most of Baldur Gates nobility in his death trap throne room after i came back to beat his ass, having spend a good while on side business and taking out the Steel Watch.
why would you shank him in the throne room instead of his bedroom
I did have to go through there to get up to where he bunkered down after the ceremony.
why would you even take out the steel watch
Why not.
factory explodes even if you don't go there
Does it? I figured i might aswell take the place out after i already pissed Gortash off by rescuing the prisoners from the Iron Throne before i come for him.
well it exploded for me, though maybe it was bugged beats me
Because I was tired of having to fight them on every street corner of the lower city. It became beyond tedious.
>Because I was tired of having to fight them on every street corner of the lower city.
what do you mean, they are chill with you even after killing Gortash
I don't know what I did but they attacked me on sight. I killed probably 3 dozen Steel Watchers and their guard. Worst part was when I tried to loot the bodies and some gay from across the street noticed me and a new fight started immediately. Once I had a fight near Jaheira's house and she randomly left my party and and aggroed on me. It was an hour long fight I killed her, her family, 4 steel watchers and 20+ guards.
Did you not take Gortash's deal or go to his secret underground prison? I think that's what ticks him off
I was going to meet him but I wandered off as usual. Found some bawd in his dungeon and saved her. Didn't even notice but you might be right that my problems started after that. I still haven't met him in his castle or whatever it is 40 hours later lmao
>go to fight Gortash
>game bugs causing him and his cards to join the fight with the throne guards on a different floor from him
>have to waste my time running to the exit to reset the fight
>simply fly up to the top of fort and skip all the unnecessary bullshit
Why did I even expect him to be in the throneroom to begin with? He needs to get a life tbqh senpai.
spite?
moronic for a Chosen of Bane to be that petty tbh.
If he was going to kill them, why bother with the voting process?
If he already got their approval why go through the trouble with killing them?
It my game there was still some nobles and guards in there and I had to kill a ton of guards before even getting into the throne room
I think Gortash just activates the murderswitch after a certain amount of long rests. For me it was all dead nobles and Banites in there.
It's probably related to the upper city zone content
Wyrm rock was incredibly buggy for me with non starting conversations, so maybe there is something the game was tryign to reach and couldn't.
It also bugs the Ravenguard elf simp in prison dialogues, and afterwards She tells about gathering allies in the upper city.
Probably something like the underwater prison event but in there.
Cazador also got a journal with some hints about Gortash being a new player and how this power dispute could change the local politics forever, and an unreadable book about the higher class of the upper city.
Talk about Bane always getting the short end of the stick
>pretty enticing compared to the alternatives
I would much rather ally with Gortash than give a devil genuinely godlike power from an era long gone, but I killed them both instead so I guess it doesn't matter
Raphael is fricking stupid because I wanted to join him and be a devil and shit but he never gave me that option DESPITE WYLL GETTING IT from his patron so I just killed him for being a homosexual
You could but alas it was cut out
As good a reason as any.
You think you have the quality to jump directly into recruitment? Don't oversell yourself. Warlock patrons are another story, but for a high ranking devil like Raphael to take a mortal directly to the conversion chambers is a huge formality and needs to be extremely worthwhile else he looks weak to every devil above him.
In the first place, that would only be truly worthwhile if you were distinctly stronger than he was, so you'd be his leashed subordinate and attack dog. But you can't outlevel Raphael in BG3.
well we murder his ass, in the counterfactual where that doesn't happen we're obviously worthy
Literally no one expected you to manage that feat.
He should've seen the "main character" tag when he examined me. Skill issue on his part
>You think you have the quality to jump directly into recruitment?
Wyll became a devil just for being an inept moron
lol no, Wyll is not a devil, he's hell inflicted.
he go thit with hell radiation.
>Hell inflicted
No such thing. He's more like a half-devil. The more time you spend in a plane the more you become aligned to said plane and in Wyll's case he was forcefully dragged down through the different levels of hell
Raphael only cares about the crown at the moment he even wrote a hundred different books about his impending ascension as the supreme archdevil in his house.
Raphael and Halsin are perfect examples of why less is more.
Raphael turns up, is the perfect unctuous c**t, then fricks off again. He does this a few times per act, and he never gets old because his voice is god tier and perfectly sells the fact that he's a literal devil.
Halsin shows up, and in EA he's bro tier because he's the first major authority figure who's reasonable and treats you with respect you've earned.
Then as things progress he's just there. If he'd had the opposite role, the guy who turns up every so often to be a bro, he'd be 10/10
Halsin exists only to be a large owlbear tank and carve wooden ducks.
he is a lazy frick even the drow abscence make more sense than him jacking up in the camp waiting sex until you rescue his shota
Halsin is an annoying prick, shouldn't have been a companion.
Raphael is a charming villain with god tier voice acting and sparse enough appearances that he remains interesting.
Halsin is a tag along who doesn't have any reason to be travelling with you after act 2 besides offering bear sex because you said hello to him a week ago.
>Raphael is a charming villain
he's a stupid villain, why did he reveal he was a devil in the first place? They should have had him be a helpful NPC that gains the players trust, who then attempts to trick them into taking a deal for their souls, have some books or other NPC mention they guy is dodgy, has caused probelms for people in the past so teh pakyer has to decipher out that he's more than he lets on, notes that he's been in and around BG for hundreds of years without aging or being an elf. Instead he turns up out of nowhere, pretends for half a second then transports you to his secret evil bad guy lair then tries to get you to make a deal. Everyone in your party chimes in and goes ooh deal with a devil sounds bad, other than astorian who just wants a deal for himself not even for you becuase he is an evil greedy fricker. It's like a disney tier villain, embarassing.
Everything about the guy is moronic now since his deal so good you can't refuse is basically irrelevant to any character who's not a gith or doesn't care about Laezel. And his warning about the Emperor never pans out if you don't free Orpheus lmao
I guess he didn't account for an MC too stupid to see himself being manipulated
Roll a persuasion check. Now.
Aight
1 is 1
0 is 20
Let's go
Damn. Critical success, huh?
>20
My knees... they're bending on their own
failed my charisma save, and my legs, they're kneeling on their own.
Raphael bros we fricking lost
Huh, maybe I SHOULD kill myself now...
>average act 2 boss
H-how!?!
Shit, he's right, they should have cut this from the game.
>only good non-california tier writing(not the plot, the words )
>should be cut
zoomers have no taste, if pst was released today itd be forgotten
>>only good non-california tier writing
Brown wienery satanist who has sex with clone versions of himself in literal hell is non california tier writing? He glamorizes satanism.
His words flow well at least and it's a big improvement over the rest of the game or all recent crgps really
>A DEVIL IS.... AN EVIL SODOMITE..????
>I AM GOING TO SHIT MY PANTS
just play a paladin
>the devil character glamorizes satanism
WTF?!
You’re just so fricking moronic not a single thing about this game portrays devils as even slightly good
Prove it.
>wyll is given the power to save his town from making a deal with a devil
Anon it's in exchange for the devil owning him. There's no rule a devil can't make a deal that allows the person to do good, they're thinking of the bigger picture.
>and is then forced to murder an innocent person or be punished and the only way to be let out of his pact is to let his dad die
>Whoa! Are you telling me that the LITERAL DEMON TRYING TO TEMPT THE PLAYER CHARACTER INTO A FAUSTIAN PACT WITH HIM isn't a morally upstanding citizen?!
Devil
Point stands. Were you expecting someone whose entire purpose is to tempt mortals into fricking themselves over with their own hubris and to generally spread misery to do community service work on the side?
Wasn't that anon, just correcting a secondary
everyone who plays 5e is a fricking tertiary or worse.
>nooooo you can't have satanic devils in my christian game wahhhhhhhh
Is your Iq below 70 or something?
He's a literal Disney villain, down to having a musical number. Fitting for the whimsical tone of the setting, but it doesn't get more Californian than that.
>disney villain
Disney told stories that lasted decades. Just because it's disney doesn't mean it's bad, a simple story told well is better than a complicated story told awfully
He’s Shakespearean get some culture goy brain
Classic Disney villains don't exist
It's either generational trauma or a misunderstood villain
pity (you) fo you, this is some of the most obvious bait i've ever seen, desperate for attention?
It's literally the most kino part of the game.
>MUH CUTS
Do cutgays really?
Best boss fight so far, and best boss theme
you are an illiterate zoomer pig that should've been aborted
There are people who actually got gaslit by Raphael to free Orpheus.
>he let him or his friends get turned into a mindflayer for a moronic mindflayer who tricked him all game, and apparently, kept tricking him until the end
LOL
Gith are evil the emperor isn’t
guys he is STILL being tricked
LMAO
I can't even lol
I got the best ending seethe more
you got the same ending as everyone else did you fricking moron
All the endings are the same the game is literally unfinished lmao GOTY rpg renaissance btw
Imagine having a control freak wife and telling people she ain't that bad, while she literally signs on to appear on some reality tv cheapstakes program because she got 500 dollans out of it, you pat her in the back and say, gratz honey, before she takes the trash outside to burn, hell no she ain't paying for trash collecting services, later she brings you food she took from the trash because she ain't paying if she can get proper food for free.
You are the husband
whats the trick at the end? the brain still alive in hibernation?
The emperor is a shady bastard the entire game and then he refuses to put Minsc under his protection until Jaheira threatens to throw the prism into a pool of lava
>He didn't redeem the Gith and earn permanent residence in Lae'zel's frog pussy by freeing Orpheus, telling the Emperor to frick off and saving the day.
I would rather get perm dragon pussy
I turned into a mindflayer and she called me ghaik and dumped me
>Not turning Karlach into a Mindflayer so she gets to live without going to Avernus
oh dear oh dear
if she turns into mindflayer she dies bro.......
I didn’t use her in my party
No she doesn't, moron
yes she does, she gets replaced
Karlach is gone man she can't go for a pint at the local bar or do anything without being attacked, life as a mindflayer is isolating and she has to hunt for brains.
she isn't even Karlach anymore. She's a monster emulating Karlach's memories.
Withers says it very clearly: Mndflayers have NO SOULS. And being who he is, he would know.
If that wasn't clear enough, the dragon under the prison fricking spells it out for you.
In that world, Karlach is gone, Karlach the mindflayer is what ate and killed Karlach.
Dude, the mineflayer in her head ate her and transform her body. At most it may havve Karlach memories but it isn't her
I hope an AI one day copies you and then de-transitions the copy of you back into a man and makes you realize a copy is not the original.
>destroying someone soul in a setting where afterlives are a thing
you have to be dumb to become mindflayer or take a pact
I mean, people are moronic enough to worship Shar in this setting soooo
Yeah, kind of feel like they dropped the ball on that.
literally the only good part of the game they left in
[Barbarian] [Intimidation] YOU SHOULD have a nice day NOW
can you put the title of the game in your post next time so it gets filtered? thanks
He's the Handsome Jack of this generation only that he's way more dense, he spews unnecessary walls of text and he's nowhere near as charming, just really wienery.
>When your crpg turns into a disney musical
I wish the song looped, biggest disappointment to an otherwise 10/10 fight
Music in general is fricked in combat encounters, I'm hoping it's something they plan to fix.
There's an ambient instrumental version of it mixed for any conversation you have with him, that loops seamlessly in the background, but they didn't release those kinds of mixed tracks.
it looped for me
I thought it was the most soulful part of the game, you get told all the time that is a futile attempt and he is gonna frick your shit up.
You reach the fight and he has like 6 cambions and the foreboding pillars and shit and then Hope starts to sing.
Im sorry but if you didn't like it (the idea even if not necessarily the song) you might be dead inside.
it looped for me too
They should've gave him higher resistances to live up to the hype. Once you figure you can just command him to halt the fight loses its luster.
Welcome to every boss fight in 5e, the fact they didn't add Legendary Resistances is a huge mistake
It's funny that they put it on some other characters like Sarevok, but forgot to put it on arguably the strongest enemy you can face in the game save for the Elder Brain (that also doesn't have legendary resistance). Like some absolute jobbers get it, but extremely powerful entities don't.
The thing is, the legendary resistance they actually added only gives them a +10 to saves against AOE spells, not a flat instant success against any spell of their choosing.
It's only AOE? Oh man, that's so shit. The strongest spells against high value targets are direct disables.
Sarevok is no jobber he actually has the highest level in all of BG3 at 16 and that's one level higher than he was in BG1 as the final boss.
Sarevok made the unfortunate mistake to give a moment where you can just gang up on him though (Right when he opens the next room to sacrifice the elephant, perfect timing to jump him.)
I just brought Jaheira and he attacked with the whole tribunal and death knights in tow right then and there. Even so wasn't a particularly difficult fight to figure out since they can all be disabled some way or another.
Huh, i would have assumed you wouldn´t even get to him without going through the death knights first if you bring her along.
They actually don't remark on her at all, so long as you brought hands to pass the gate. Sarevok is the only one to actually recognize her.
On that note, it was hilarious that you then can just waltz into the Bhaal temple asking to prove yourself with "I murdered the Murder Tribunal" and they just go "Well, thats unconventional, but counts." while Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it.
Yeah I was even wondering if killing them would give me any issues further down the line (what with the kidnapped companion and all) but I figured the god of murder probably wouldn't take issue with murder all that much.
Yeah, Bhaal operates fully on chaotic stupid.
>while Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it
That didn’t happen for me, as dark urge I killed sarevok, told the door I murdered the tribunal, then Orin spared my captive and 1v1’d me
She has a bhaalspawn rivalry with dark urge and probably expected it but it pisses her off as Tav
That makes sense
Thats because as the Dark Urge she actively wants to outdo you to be Bhaals true Chosen, if you´re just anyone else she´s pissed that you ruined the whole setup, turns Slayer and fights you while the cultists around that circle have all Sanctuary and channel a buff each turn that give her 7 immunity hits.
I did have to take out the peanut gallery in the immediate vicinity aswell, but yeah, the guys far off to the sides didnt even bother.
That bit was hilarious
>Kill biggest dick Bhaal boy
>Orin thinks she has a fricking chance
>Peanut gallery watches as you shred her through ritual and just leaves you alone
>Orin then throws a hissyfit that you stole her future kill and calls off the 1v1 due to it.
Halsin died in my playthrough because of her being butthurt about that. Couldn't convince her to honor the duel since I'm a Charismalet and she just stabbed his eyes out.
I used the Speak with Dead on his corpse and I don't think they expected that as questions/responses were all as if we were still in Act 1 with him talking about his valuables being in the grove and asking what ceramorphosis is.
Oh she doesn´t honor the duel even if you pass that check in that case, the check basically is to have her refocus on dealing with you instead of shanking that person.
Frick him he is useless
He recognizes Minsc as well
I just stunlocked him for 10 turns alternating between destroying the pillars and using Stunning Fist as a Monk while Lae'zel and Astarion just kept critting him. Cool fight all the same though. I thought I was fricked the moment I did a Level-6 Upcast Radian Spirit Guardians as Shadowheart and it immediately one shot her because of the reflecting damage I didn't read.
I instagibbed my Shadowheart in the same way on the first attempt, even though I actually examined the enemies, just forgot they backlash by the time it was her turn. Next attempt I figured I can sacrifice Hope to use Divine Intervention AoE nuke and remove all cambions on turn 1.
The reflecting damage is a pretty smart idea for the encounter design. Not only is the presence of good not welcome, it's actually harmful in the house of hope.
Music was done poorly throughout the game. While playing the sound track was lackluster. Then you watch the credits and all the songs are awesome and you realize that you didn't hear any of it during the game.
It simply isn't loud enough compared to everything else.
it looped for me after like 40 seconds which normal combat music started back up before stopping
I played where I refused his offer and I broke into the House of Hope and killed him. What happens if you accept his offer and give him the Crown at the end?
Considering how curt and matter-of-factly every other character's arc is concluded, I'd say not much more than a two-sentence exchange in the last cutscene.
Literally nothing right now, but there is datamined cut content that shows him conquering most of avernus (which is an absurd notion because asmodeus would wreck his shit even with the crown)
asmodeus wouldn't care until it was at his door step, then he would just 1 shot the dude. asmodeus hides his true form and power and only takes action when he truly needs to
The dead three's chosen broke into his vault to get the crown in the first place and their heist must've went better than the one at Raphael's cause they got out scot free.
That was Mephistopheles, not Asmodeus.
How those three stooges got in and out of there in the first place is a mystery. Thorm being immortal and likely bringing Balthazar along must have hardcarried while Orin likely was shanking random imps and Gortash being Gortash and only worth a shit if he is in a room rigged with traps in his favor.
No, they broke into Mephistopheles's vault. Mephistopheles has some valuable materiel for Hell's sake but also a bunch of worthless knick-knacks that only Meph himself cares about.
Asmodeus's vault is another level entirely, both literally and metaphorically. The infernal smuggler can't even get a portal to open on Asmodeus's layer. Read her notes.
Are you kidding? Asmodeus loves devils with ambitions who are willing to spread their influence via cunning and power. It's practically a nomination rite for a new archdevil.
Avernus is only the first layer of Baator. It can be taken. The first seven layers are completely expendable. Only at Cania (layer 8) do valuable things lay, and at Nessus (9) the invaluable things. The Nine Hells of Baator are designed for a war like no other.
Why would you ever give him the crown he’s evil
His deal is shit too he just wants to give you the damn hammer to free Orpheus that's not even close to the same value unless you're githyanki.
>He trusts the fricking octopus monsters
Devils atleast are bound to their word.
You should destroy the crown
Mystra wants it because power
Raphael is the guy who came up with the original idea of using it for mass control, Gortash discovered this and stole it and the idea from him.
>You should destroy the crown
Nah, just let redditor Gale reforge it so he can piss off Mystra
It's safer with Mystra she can destroy it properly
Does anybody have a link to the mod that makes Wyll white? It was taken down from Nexus
>T-poses on you
I'm gonna stop you right there.
>Hold Monster for 5 turns
Nothing personnel, Raphael.
>counterspelled
nothing personal mortal
How do you people even hit Raphael? I have 10-20% chance of landing anything on him.
turn off great weapon master if you have that one for starters until you have advantages
Acquire better gear
You get like +10 spell DC worth of gear by that point
You were supposed to break the soul obelisks, dummy.
Once all four go down his stats plummet like a rock.
Frick me. I just killed his goons and kept hitting him until something landed. What a slog of a fight because of that.
summon 6 ghouls next to him. perma-paralyze. ez.
or hold monster if you're not leet like me
dont forget the oil that just gives you +2 atk . If you're lvl 12 theres no excuse not to have at least +12 to atk by that point. + Advantage + Bless.
raphael only has like a +2 on his will save bro...
Different bosses need different tactics. For example i raped the hag with my rogue by dipping his blades in drow poison. Did not even give her a chance to retreat. The Giga Spider? Easy, used featherfall pots and lured it onto the spiderwebs once we were both on a web i burned the web and dropped the spuder for 50 DMG each drop(could've also just tossed her into the pit). Etc.
You see that's why 5E introduced Legendary Resistance.
This Black person never transformed during the fight.
t. Playing on Tactician.
That's an A pose thoughever
thats A pose and nice furnitre for your non official Hell house
>Skipped pretty much his entire transformation phase because he slipped on ice and fell on his ass
he has a transformation phase???
kind of. when he uses the pillars he has to transform to burn off the feedback or something. he just transforms and then transforms back next turn, or at least he did for me. it didn't seem like a big deal. he looks pretty cool when transforme though, pic related is only picture google finds of him
>when he uses the pillars he has to transform to burn off the feedback or something.
wow mine didnt do it but he was prone or paralyzed the entire fight so maybe that's why
mine died too fast i guess
Gotta love d&d derailment of villains. Only way to force it is with reaction based transformation upon reaching a certain hp threshold or dying/rebirth But you can pretty much only do it once per campaign or it ruins the player fantasy
>Wanted to beat Raph first and then rescue Hope
>Go down to jail after slapping Raph's ass
>Hope is dead
welp
Hope SCREAMS at you multiple times to Ava ever first bro
>Hope spends the entire of my time there being an annoying c**t
>Decide to abandon her because she made me hate her so much
she is cringe(crazy marvel reddit dialogue and shitty tribal tatoos) not worth to live
BEAR
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKEN
>Spend all my time saving Hope
>Good guy playthrough
>Fight starts and try her Divine Intervention ability
>Select the damage one
>It Instantly kills her
Was pretty funny to just blow her up turn 1. Was gunna double Intervention with Shadow-heart. Even if Raphael felt harder im glad I saved it for the final slog of tedium at the ending.
>cast Planar Binding
>immune
Frick
The game actually has more than a few cool villains.
>tfw when you explore Aunthie Ethel's menagerie
Hags are always pretty cool in DnD
Hags are the best lower-level encounter in tabletop, bar absolutely fricking nothing. They cover all avenues of gameplay and storytelling
kinda bummed i couldnt have sex with the hag
I thought hags were supposed to be strong?
Depends. A single hag with some minions in her lair is a boss encounter for a party somewhere at level 3 or 4.
However hag covens, which tend to consist of 3 hags, are noticeably tougher. Never encountered a coven as a DM or player, but I think they're for levels 5-8 or something.
The great thing is that the difficulty scales with how well-prepared the players are. Any hag worth their salt has the players in a bind one way or another. The hag in act 1 has the pregnant girl hanging over a pit. In act 3, she is pregnant with an innocent child.
Hags always employ lots of minions, which BG3 does very well with the masked people. They're clearly innocents who got outbargained into wearing the masks. Depending on how you handle things, the fight in act 1 either has you face the hag, her masked minions and an NPC you probably want to save who is in peril, after her lair whittled you down a bit with traps and hazards.
In act 3, there's the masked minions, her pregnancy and the resurrecting mushrooms. All tools that make the hag a threat. It's a treat to play.
I really really like hags
>The hag in act 1 has the pregnant girl hanging over a pit.
huh? You just shank her in the hut
Auntie was honestly the best part of act 3. Fricking Gortash's audience chamber and all the trap bullshit was the worst.
Next time, for Gortash
Just Clear the lower level, find the secret wall and go outside the fortress and behind it, then you can climb up almost to the top, then jump on the scaffolding and bypass most of the guards and trap bullshit
I did this for my 2nd playthrough and i 1 turn killed him by making 2 of my pewpew companions just go in stealth and nuke him
Too bad they cut the other 2 hags
>Casts Tarshas Terrible Laughter on him.
>Start bonking pillars and cambions.
>One time he manages to escape the stunlock and nukes Hope to nonexistance.
>Tarshas again and Raphael gets his shit kicked out of him.
>bards roll a 20.gif
why use tasha hideous laughter instead of hold monster ever?
why cast CC if you can just kill him
show me you one rounding raphael on tactician without using hold monster
I uninstalled the game already, sorry bro
Ascended Astarion with a speed potion, sharpshooter, arrow of many targets, that legendary bow, action surge, martial endeavor, and the psi ability to turn bonus actions into actions.
Ascended just give you fart form and better vampire bite
I think he does free necrotic damage on hits too.
>speed potion
by the way, Is there ANY reason why this potion is like the easiest to craft, costs a pittance, and is so broken?
what were they thinking, hmmm??
It's stupid, it's haste in a bottle with no concentration. Half the shit in this game is so overpowered I think a lot of the devs didn't even play 5e.
I two rounded him so I'm sure an ascended Astarion monk would do it easy
git gud
Monk Fighters can attack like 12 times.
You can get Tasha for free if you're a non-caster with the cursed monk quest? You'd probably have horrible DC on the spell though.
Yurgir really bugs out Raphael.
He will spend some turns just freaking out trying to detect invisible
why was side boss tougher than the final boss
what a shitty boss fight.
>hit him with an eldritch blast while he's near the front door
>accidentally send him flying off the foyer and instakill him
Dude has wings and he died from fall damage
its funny because if you knock the fish dudes in the water they just get teleported back to where they were
Same with mindflayers, they teleport back, meanwhile Raphaels gimp went flying down the depths of hell despite his wings via throw.
If you don´t clown on him with Tarshas for example and keep him stunned, yes, yes he does.
>shares power with the dead three to make them gods
>actively helps to intervene against all of their plans
>calls them moronic mouthbreathers when they fail
What the frick was his problem?
He didn´t expect them to be so stupid to ascend a Elder Brain and try to get worship out of soulless beings. They outdid themself in coming up with a really stupid plan bound to backfire.
>Be Jergal
>Doing your duties as Lord of the End of Everything
>Been thousands of years, getting pretty tired at this point
>Take 3 of your disciples, split up your power, promise they can take over if they don't frick things up
>They frick things up and come up with a plan that essentially destroys souls, which literally every god requires
>Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
tbf to Jergal, the dead 3 have never really been effective as gods for anything other then being evil and making people afraid.
>actively helps to intervene against all of their plans
>Have to come out of retirement to help stop them
He does fricking nothing though?
Resurrecting people who fight against them is nothing?
>Resurrecting people who fight against them is nothing?
What resurrection, what people???
oh, maybe I'll replay it as durge once Minthra shit gets fixed
>What resurrection, what people???
He brings folks back if you manage to say, have them go down a chasm and such, they got proper reactions even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L48xPHQQkMA
Don't their little spirit orbs pop up on the ground when this happens anyways?
Withers technically isn't reviving people if you pay attention to what he's saying. He isn't bringing them back to life, he rewriting their fate in history so that they never died to begin with.
>He does fricking nothing though?
Not if you play the canon Origin
The Origin route has no fricking purpose existing whatsoever, Durge should absolutely be the standard route, for any alignment character.
Agreed. I'm convinced it was written that way but they were worried people would think they're forced to be evil/kill
Game would've been so much better if it was. Currenly Durge is just the meme route people do to do an evil route
Anon, the Nautilus crashes 50 feet from the tomb he’s resting in. Pretty sure it’s implied he’s the reason you even crashland and escape where you do.
>implied he’s the reason you even crashland and escape
everything that happens to you is due to the macguffin artifact with a pocket dimension entity inside of it backseating your existence
jergal is just along for the ride and occasional divine intervention handouts
All the gods are laughing at their stupid plan, devils are too. Mindflayers have no value whatsoever.
>withers refuses to resurrect the bard you dirge out of mercy due to you so royally fricking murdering her that staying dead is a better alternative to resurrection
>Withers comforts (You) as durge if you choose no romance as to not kill any companions
>the speech he gives at ~~*that*~~ part
>his epilogue monologue shittalking the dead three after getting jobbed by their son/daughter/niece/nephew
Withers is, dare I say, ludokino
>>his epilogue monologue shittalking the dead three after getting jobbed by their son/daughter/niece/nephew
to be fair you kill a lot of people during the game
>Mind Flayers don't have Souls
There are literally Illithid Petitioners in the lore.
The devs at Larian are fricking moronic.
You're reading it poorly. Mindflayers destroy the host's soul, they possess their own souls but rarely do they use them meaningfully due to their brain cultist society. So it would starve out the gods due to mass purging believers and replacing them with useless unbelievers.
>useless unbelievers
Ilsensine?
Is regarded as a funny joke by most illithids. At their most respectful, it is a being of formidable power and worthy of respect, but not of dedication.
Going anywhere except the Elder Brain is a sin in illithid culture. Only the really weird oddballs choose to venerate Ilsensine as a god and master or pledge their souls to it. Other illithids regard these zealots much like muslims might regard suicide bombers. Perhaps well intentioned and noble in their own way, but also totally fricking berserk lunatics.
Never had a problem, he hangs just fine with Kelemvor, who actually does the job properly
it's just that the jobber 3 are the three stooges of the forgotten realms
Is this homie spitting verses at me while physically destroying me?
The Shadowheart revenge fight against the Shar templars was waaaay harder than Raphael in my opinion
Everything's easy if you read the necromancy book to completion.
>nuked the evil tome
>3 shades popped out
>nuked them too
Frick that shit, i am a beacon of light! Darkness has no place here!
Ghouls make good farm hands and they don't require any form of payment.
Nta but I can't figure out how to open it
You need a special amethyst you can find in the area underneath the village.
Love me ghoul squad.
You didn't beat the game
Just because the game spams 40 goons against you, but they all have shit saves so any AoE crowd control or damage spells trivialize it.
honestly that was the hardest fight of act 3. orin and gortash was pathetic. orin especially. couple magic missiles and shes gone lmao.
Same. Shar fight was the only one I needed to reload multiple times for and even had to prepare for it properly with potions, buffs and preparing proper spells.
I played on normal but it was literally
>cast dominate person on tanky guy
>summon paralyze ghoul rapesquad
>win
I was used to having my Shadowheart healing everyone to 100% all the time as I rerolled her into a dedicated healer. With everyone having "chilled" 100% of the time and everyone being blind in the shroud and frequently stunned (or feared I don't remember), it was pretty difficult.
>Shar fight
the what now
you can fight that b***h? or do you mean the eversong fight with the little necromancer bastard
I mean the fight in the temple of Shar against Mother Superior and her minions.
ohh
my fighter gave those c**ts the dozens of smokepowder grenades that were just accumulating in my inventory throughout the game
I killed my Shadowheart with her own radiant spells because I was to moronic to read that they all return 2x radiant damage that they receive. I just saw that they are susceptible to it and kept doing BIG damage while isntakilling my SH lmao
I literally killed Orin in 2 character moves. Astarion knocked all of her 'Invulnerability' charges with various poison/fire hits then Lae'zel knocked her on her ass and crit 3 times in a row. Had more trouble killing the rest of the cultists afterwards thinking there'd be a phase 2 like Kethric, but that was it.
>mfw I remembered shadowheart was still carrying that runepowder barrel I stole in act 1
>and she rolled highest initiative
Used that against the dragon and emperor and the b***h squad, was pretty good
They're a literal amalgamation of illithid brains, I don't see how they could have one
I think illithid petitioners are lame as frick by the way. Why would a tadpole have a soul?
Also wondering how ioualum or whatever could transform himself into an elder brain, considering they're ulthilid or whatever in origin. Sid he just hijack the process? How'd he do it when he was a rotting lich?
I mean maybe individually flayers are soulless but if you put them all into a big elder brain maybe???
>Also wondering how ioualum or whatever could transform himself into an elder brain, considering they're ulthilid or whatever in origin. Sid he just hijack the process? How'd he do it when he was a rotting lich?
Ioulaum is the second strongest wizard to ever walk Toril, only a shade inferior to Karsus. His level of bullshittery makes Elminster look like he's illiterate. He probably transplanted his own mind via some epic spell.
just have counterspell and its piss easy
I have no idea how. They were all so weak that I just cast a high level Spirit Guardians and had Shadowheart run around them. Plus by that point in the game you have 5th or 6th level spells. With an astral deva and an elemental myrmadon at your side you can pretty much stomp everything systematically.
i just cast darkness in the middle as my gish warlock and killed them, they also cast darkness themselves while not seeing in it
I was killing 8-10 guys per fight so that fight only took 2 turns
>Plop down Globe of Invulnerability
>Stand in it, spam your radiant damage nukes
>Take 0 damage reflection due to Globe
not that bad
>have 3 sit on top of stairs
> have 1 person with high initative run up and run back to the stairs
>everything is grouped up at the bottom
>drop a cloud kill
>start fireballing while martials push things back into the death zone
>keep some spell slots open to counterspell silence spam
Thats how i did it on tactian
Proper tactician gameplay
Honestly love reading how smart motherfrickers play this game
>Convince Yurgir to fight for me
>He just fricking blasts Raphael off the bridge and ends the fight turn 3
>bridge
wait huh? you fight raphael in an enclosed room in the house of hope.
There's a little bridge right outside the Foyer that leads to the rest of the house. I didn't close the door behind me when the encounter started so Raphael ran straight to the bridge after transforming, and Yurgir followed him, blasting him into the chasm.
>Convince Yurgir to fight for me
>Spends the entire fricking fight missing all his attacks and disappearing
Is this the kind of writing something I would have to deal with if I were to ever play fifth edition dnd? Because I would like to not deal with that.
>HOPE's long rest for party after minions are dealt with
>Laughs in busted max level Magic Missile
based just because his existence enabled shadowheart getting raped by haarlep. that whole scene is heroin for my dick
Say it.
Ribbit
Bitch
sex wtih l-Lae'zel is better than sex with a-a-Alice!
Did Gortash have anything good to say? I never met him in his Throne Room until after disabling the watchers. By the time I came back the whole keep was hostile. Didn't have any dialogue and everyone aggroed from the top floor to the base floor (where the waypoint is). Made it kind of easy.
Also for some reason Wyll's dad was there and wanted to kill me too? Didn't really understand.
He wants to give you half the power to rule if you team up with him completely unironically
ahhh, ok, thanks. i would've declined him anyways
probably got that mind pole, seems to be the catch all for every unreasonable action
>ahhh, ok, thanks. i would've declined him anyways
It doesn't even matter because he just dies to final boss in a cutscene
You see him get coronated as the new archduke and Wyll's dad is in there acting wierd
Gortash is one of the worst parts of act 3,probably because he was intended for upper city but they put him in a stupid barrack on a bridge
i was expecting vlaakith to continue hunting laezel but it was completely dropped after act 3 started
It's not. You even get an avatar of vlakith to deal with.
I really fricking hate when shit bugs out in act 3, it kills my entire joy for this game
The Raphael fight was absolutely the peak of the game.
I took the deal and reneged on it like a true motherfricker.
I failed to save Hope because I used her for a Divine Intervention nuke and the infernal retaliations killed her instantly
loved it first time i did it
But now, my main char has somehow 4 initiative and it skipped his turn for some reason, so this game can get raped by a Black person for all i care now
How did they manage to make a tempter type character so completely devoid of charisma?
I wasn't interested in a deal with him at any point in the game
they took my name sorry
Why do people think this is something noteworthy?
Why do you think it is irrelevant?
>Game puts effort into making a speclaised song for a boss
>It isn't just generic orchestral music a la souls games
>Woah why is this noteworthy
He's literally the only good and soulful part of act 3
>1st playthrough
>balanced party of paladin, cleric, barbarian and warlock
>kill himafter a billion save scum
>2nd playthrough
>4 half-orcs unga bunga melee party
>one shot him without even using Hope
>cast spell
>counterspell from enemy i cant see
>dont even enter combat
nice game
frick the emperor
Well, if you put it like that...
Bet ud like that
Poor guy he couldnt have friends without bawdting himself with illusion shapeshifting
Instructions unclear, had sex with mindflayer
Kill ghaikh people.
>You want to free yourself from the Elder Brain
>So do I
>You want to free Orpheus to help fight the brain, and then free both of us
>If we don't work together, we have no chance at survival
>Therefore, I'm going to join the Netherbrain, frick you
What kind of absolute fricking moron logic is this?
mindflayer programming to survive no matter what
He values his own life over everything else, including his freedom.
thats why he killed ansur, thats why he thralled duke stelmane and ate part of her brain, to him your group are just his thralls and if you go against him, he will force you to do what he wants
He's a b***h homie. Anyone trusting a brain eating alien is a moron.
Given Jergal himself tells you that they're soulless abominations who deserve the day of the sperm whale, I'd open the window to check if he said the sky's blue
Omeluum was pretty cool though
You've heard this guy's story and you don't realize he's a control freak? He'd rather give up than strive for victory with someone else calling the shots.
He's not Balduran anymore, putting him down is doing a favor to the legacy of the great hero.
Orpheus would have killed him, he's a 100% mindflayer wearing a dead man's brain.
>Gith Lich tells me to kill
>Be Dark Urge
>Emperor "honestly thought I wouldn't stab them"
Really? Are you sure about that?
>tries to take the stones from me
>THEYRE MY STONES
>attack him immediately after I turn into mind flayer
This is what happens when you try to write a sensible plot but then begin to use Marvel movies as a guide, there needs to be an epic subversion at the end.
Pretty much.
>DUUUUUUUUUUUDE THE NETHERBRAIN WASN'T BEING CONTROLLED BY THE DEAD THREE'S CHOSENS ALL ALONG IT WAS PRETENDING TO BE CONTROLLED...WHY???? IT JUST WAS OK???
Pure garbage.
>WHY???? IT JUST WAS OK???
It was part of the plan. Literally everything up to the Emperor choosing to eat Orpheus/you deciding to free Orpheus was part of its plans, because its plans couldn't handle an active mindflayer with Orpheus's protections.
>the narrative
the netherbrain being imprisoned and forced to comply to the demands of the chosen, was the one who put the idea and information of the weapon and orpheus in circulation to mortals who then looked for it openly.
it used the knowledge of the emperor to create a counter force to the dead three chosen for its freedom.
Shar sends Shadowheart on a mission to recover the artefact to interfere in the elder brain plot.
Shadowshart gets captured and infected. Eventual main story party members also get captured and infected.
Dragons attack the nautiliod that Vlaakith knows the artefact is on.
Everyone escapes and emperor saves OP from a death fall, even though squidward is too far away with Shadowfarts to do so.
Implied intervention.
Player proceeds to move forward in the game to kill the dead three chosen.
Player frees the netherbrain. And fails to dominate it with the nethercrown shards.
>You fools. You did as I planned. It was me all along.
The story only makes sense if you do a Shadowdart playthrough.
not a gay wizard allahu akbar him even so act 2 end says you liberate zergs mindflyers cause BULLSHIT
The three stooges not being in control seemed really obvious to me, even just by how they've put that crown on an elder brain to turn it into a god. In what timeline does that end well for them? The only question was HOW they were going to get fricked in the ass by it.
IIRC its a ship of Theseus moment the mindflayer has fully devoured the person it was attached to and now carrys around its memories and ideas but that doesnt necessarily mean its the same person its like the Thing movie even the person itself believes its still itself but deep down the mindflayer part is on %100 survival mode
there has to be someone who is so heroic, so larger than life, that his memories would "turn" the flayer completely.
this happened in Marvel's Secret Invasion (comics not show) the Skrull created from Mar'vell's DNA and memories was so overcome with how heroic and pure he was that he chose to embrace the Captain Marvel persona over his own and sacrificed himself to save innocents during the invasion.
Balduran had some really shitty luck considering he escaped that werewolf island from BG1 and then blundered into a mindflayer hive right after. Should've taken his dragon buddy with him they would've got destroyed.
Bad rewriting pls understand he was going to betray you but that looked like racist so unless you trigger it wont happen
>80% hit chance
>miss
>miss
>miss
>hit
>counter stunned
NIGGGGGGEEEEEERRRRRRRRR
When I missed a 97% I almost smashed my keyboard.
Its shit enough to have bad rng, but then throw that in with spells bugging out i ragequit this fricking thing, pets breaking my concentration spells being one.
>spells bugging out
For whatever reason on Vulcan my game crashes 100% of the time when I try to cast wall of thorns.
i just don't use vulkan anymore
>not layering the boss with several "you stand here, you take damage" spells
I don't remember the bonuses being this high on Tactician. Did they buff the enemies? +13 is basically a guaranteed hit right?
You get a roll disadvantage purely for playing on Tactician
Speaking of, does Warding Flare even work properly? I had Shadowheart burn a reaction every turn and I'm pretty sure the rolls didn't change at all.
Not like it really matters, but if it was going to be like this, I'd have made her choose a domain with heavy armor.
Why did they make 12 level cap? I hit it at the start of act 3 and now almost 40 hours late every fight since then has felt pointless. I want to level up ffs.
play skyrim, this is not that kind of game.
Leveling up is fun. Surely there is a way to make it less unbalanced?
just get the mod that fixes it
>Surely there is a way to make it less unbalanced?
Tell me how you balance this
Rework it. Take a look at BG3's polymorph.
>Tell me how you balance this
I don't, most of the shit is already unbalanced
kill magic again lot of snowflakes Black person using magic
the same way it was balanced in BG 2?
>Timestops you
>Delayed Fireballs you
>Force cages you
>cloudkills you
Meanwhile as a 20th level fighter
>attacks you 4 times
*8 times with action surge and with more feats and stats than any other class. That's 16d6+40+80 damage with max strength, great weapon master, and no magic items. Force cage is bullshit though.
guess which one is more effective.
Doesn't change the fact that the level progression is pretty fricking trash. RPGs incentivize getting stronger/richer after every milestone, be it finishing a minor sidequests or a major story quests. The fact that the game is too easy doesn't help either.
Leveling up in 5e doesn't make you that much stronger, except for some milestones (fighters extra attacks and some high level spells, mostly). You couldn't have the level creep of the Pathfinder's games where encounters must have 40 str and dex to be a threat.
I genuinely thought that Larian would add more class, race and subrace features, 5e is such a boring system.
I see 5e as a casualisation in reaction to 3.5e (and Pathfinder) where you can really get fricked building your character. In 5e, all characters are viable but a bit boring. I like the diversty of 3.5e better, but you kind of need a PhD in it to make competent builds.
I don't know shit about 3.5 but everything seemed pretty easy playing weapon master
3.5 isn't that much more complex than 5e, it just has more bloat and esp. skills that are arguably redundant
pathfinder is the one where you basically need a build guide, in 3.5e doing all the obvious stuff is fine outside of super high level campaigns
oh god, the buffing, the BUFFING needed in those games.
My tenser transformed great invisible hasted great heroic arcane trickster killed most things in a few rounds, indeed after spending a dozen rounds of prep time.
But leveling up in skyrim is kind of useless because of level scaling.
Game becomes an unbalanced mess after that point, it's why every 5e module ends at 11-12ish
artificial difficulty unironically
DnD 5e breaks apart once you get into levels 15+. It's the same problem 3.5 had, although admittedly somewhat reigned in by 5e's number crunch.
High-level gameplay in DnD sucks because you're no longer a scrappy band of adventurers, but instead the actual movers and shakers in the world.
Do i get initiative punishment for buffing myself before a fight? why am i suddenly last in the fricking turn
>does literally nothing all game
>dies in a skippable secondary boss fight
Am I supposed to care about this guy?
He's pretty cool. I liked his song too.
I like the "Mortal Kombat Ninja" aesthetic they were going for.
How are you in act 2 and have only 15AC? I don't care if you're "not tanking", that's unacceptably low - esp. when that medium scalemail doesn't have a dex cap. Slap the bulwark bracers on him before you get locked out of the act 1 map.
My gale had 10AC until I killed Raphael and took his armor (considered always proficient when wearing it).
You have a frickton of accessories to improve AC for members without armor (like Gale). Also, cloak of displacement. Also, mages have mirror image for a reason.
You know wizards can wield a shield in the off hand for a free +2AC? Respec and give him 16 dex (as you should as it stacks on top of mage armour) and you have 15AC without buffs. 15AC is what most encounters are designed around in the tabletop and 10AC is practically defenceless. And then buff as
said.
DOOMED
DETECTED
AND CAUGHT
Does whole Ganker play with the exact same pace as me? I just beat this guy an hour ago.
no I beat the game a week ago
>killed raphael
>killing his demons
>my divine smite procs
>instakill myself
ooops
I did that with the priestess b***h in Shadowheart's temple.
>Smite for 120 damage,
>Dead
>Uhhhh, maybe I should look at her buffs
Thou walkest alone?
>raphael casts see invisibility on yugir (and SUCCEEDS) right at the part he says the 'detected' in "doomed, detected, and caught"
holy kino
>He got Yurgir to aid him
You didn't beat the fight
it ain't my problem i'm charismatic as frick
Does it matter? He has frick all hp. I killed him immediately.
Hope comes with divine intervention. If you used her you didn't beat the fight.
I left her to burn because she was an annoying c**t
I meant to use the Divine Intervention to get the weapon before the fight ended, but I forgot. Are the weapons you get from that even good or is it just a waste?
they're worse than either lathlander's blood or nightsong spear. Just a lame +3 mace iirc.
>you didn't beat the fight
And what are you going to do? Send the 'didn't beat the fight' mafia on me?
That's s uppoed to be a good thing? I used Divine Intervention before I burned off the anti-radiant buff ont he cambions and my Hope got blasted for around 300 fire damage. RIP.
that's probably the most accurate use of DI from Hope
Yeah it was appropriate so I rolled with it.
That big boy helped em in the final battle
Yurgir does like 0 damage he is just a distraction for raphael
>everything was going exactly as planned
>on the eve of finishing their evil plan Orin decides to lobotomise Durge at the very last second
>Durge comes back as a brain damaged Lawful Good Paladin dead set on tearing the Absolute apart
Oh no!
>save ogre horn
>try to use it in this fight
YOU PROMISED
i thought it only works in act 1. the Ogre showed in act 2 and asked to get paid. killed him which was good, since he had a helm that gives you four int (no wonder he was smart). now i can use three more spells.
Dont forget to loot a music box, can be played in inventory
who else got the fricked to death ending in hell
it was worth it
I used it to get rid of companion I didn't like
This disgusting homosexual likes to take it in the ass. He's a fricking bottom. I don't care that he's a devil. I don't care that he steals souls. I don't even care that he tried grooming Mol. But I draw the LINE at him being a DISGUSTING homosexual THAT LIKES TAKING IT UP THE ASS LIKE A WATERDEEP prostitute. Fricking disgusting. I will kill him on every run.
the fact that he had an incubus rather than a succubus didn't tip you off?
I wish divine intervention actually did something instead low dmg or couple worthless items
>casts ice storm
SLLLIP SLIP AND SLIDE.
BITCH.
mindflayers don't have souls but what about elder brains
>Monk going toe to toe with Raphael theme
honestly Luffy is the weeb patron saint of Monks, high wisdom, low intellect and just dreamin of being a real martial class, and he just might.
I would kill everyone to be able to get telekinetic ranged feats for Monk punches to emulate doing Jet Pistol and Jet Gatling.
monk doesnt have gear bullshit transofrm if you ignore slayer
best part of Act III
anyone know if there any disguise self scrolls or an item that gives it in act 1?
Your free disguise self helmet that came with the deluxe? You did pirate to get that right?
I didn't buy the deluxe and for some reason all that shit is still in the box at camp.
About to beat the game, is there any way to both kill the Emperor and not turn into a flayer? Or just an ending where you "win" and don't turn into a flayer.
ya, make Orph turn into flayer
That’s the worst ending
How do I accomplish these?
t. finishing the game tonight with friends where I have told the emperor to frick off and haven't used a single squid power while they have been "abusing" them
kill Raph
get hammer
use hammer
one of your friends will prob turn into a squid tho
steal the hammer from raphaeel (don't take his deal) use it and let the frog prince become a flayer
Doesn’t that doom the gith forever?
no? they revolt anyway
Which is dumb as all frick.
>Don't you see, you had the ability to murder the Goddess that has been ruining you inside you all along
>You're right!
Then why did Orpheus have a pity party when laezel didn’t accept his dragons saying they were doomed.
my laezel received his dragons and took up his fight
How is that my problem? Good that they can't combat my new illithid empire anyway
gith are doomed with that moronic b***h of vlaakith alive anyway and not worth of it as race since some earthBlack folk managed to beat the thing they excel at
I mean.. sucks for the Gith, but they are the least likable race in the whole setting, even the fricking Drow and Black person dwarves will barter or deal with other races from time to time, not the Gith.
complete fricking morons ideologically captured by a Lich and think they are better than everyone and regularly get whooped for it.
Define "use it". Is it a dialogue option or do we get taken to the dream place before/during the brain fight? My friend has the hammer currently, though I think I can convince him to free him.
Attack the stones binding the prince with it
I got the ending where you take over the elder brain and remain human
There's no Gith+Emperor ending, there's a few different variations but you always choose one side, the other, or yourself.
his boss fight was the most kino of the game, perhaps one of the most kinos boss fights in decades, they should have scraped the whole endgame and made Raphael with the crown of Karsus the last boss, the dead tree chosen should have been people he tricked in to controlling the elder brain with the stones.
his end game was getting the artifact because the Emperor held not only Orpheus power could control ilhitids, the Emperor had the hammer that could be used to reforge the Crown and make him a god.
>every single boss from Viconia onward was my Monk doing 50-75% of its life
>my fighter finishes it, usually on the floor
lmao
lol 'Tactician'
>stunning strike
>stunning strike
>stunning strike (bonus action)
feels so good to deny enemies their turns
I think BG 3 did justice to monk but I still think Pillars has the best monks for sure.
how do i monk? teach me
How I did it:
Rogue level 1 for proficiency so I could be Mr. Smooth Talk Man because Tactician is easy
Monk for 5 levels to double attack
Rogue for 2 more for 2 bonus actions (for punches and flurries)
use light armor, no armor, whatever is highest AC. I used Medium I think because I took a feat for it after Tavern Brawler. You get so many STR increasing shit in this game it's more than okay to take a half feat. I used a shield always because I was a human. I had 20-24 AC all game so it was fine. Gloves of 18 dex are early and they are perfect to wear until you get the endgame gloves you will use for all of 1 hour.
Endgame I found a heavy armor that let me use it without prof so I wore that.
thank you, il see what i can make out of that.
if you're going to wear armor at all you don't need any wisdom. You can leave it at 10 but with 12 I landed a lot of my stuns still. I rarely used it though because BAs were for knockdown flurries.
il frick around and find out,thanks.
i´m on my second playtrough going evil drudge oath breaker paladin and instaled a lot of mods with new 5e spells and a bunch of new items and level 20 unlocked, pretty kino
>new 5e spells and a bunch of new items and level 20 unlocked, pretty kino
Act 3... fixed....
noice trips tbh, i started playing on tatician with level 20 escalation and all most 5e spells and it has been a blast
Dude disabled all level 7+ spells though so the only benefit is upcasting
Level 7 spells don't exist in BG3 they didn't bother making them when you can't level high enough to use them
we were talking about the 5e spells mod though
Which mods are those?
What happens if you actually let that moron Gale use the crown for power
He enslaves you and does magic tricks with you forever
nothing? again, your choices dont matter
Walk away while you still have legs.
Why yes it is normal for monsters to pretend to be big tiddy dwarves to catfish you, how could you tell?
dialogue triggers breaking left and right in this playthrough
Is Iron Throne worth going? I don't care about rescuing hostages I just wanna know if there's good loot to get before 6 turns are up
hey wait didn't they claim there was like 1700 endings
and in reality we got 1 with like 3 different 10 second scenes depending on Karlach, Gayl, and Astarion shit?
unionircally cut. it was supposed to have slideshows like every crpg to exist post fallout
probably wasn't working idk
The ending was my guy saying "I can't wait to get out of this shithole" and then Karlach dying, Astarion running away screaming like Team Rocket while everyone laughed at him and didn't give two shits, and then the credits
it was SO fricking bad holy shit
>karlach waits till the enemy is defeated before exploding
She’s a bro
I had different endings theres far more than 4
>I had different endings theres far more than 4
I truly believe act 1 and 2 are 9/10, but act 3 is barely a 5/10 it really fricking demolishes the game, I still love it but the 10/10 reviewers clearly never got past moonrise
Pretty much all of Act 3 needs significant overhaul and patching, ESPECIALLY the ending and the major boss fights, most of them are either broken or flat out unfun
I'm in the middle of my second playthrough and loving it - but I've stopped just before finishing act 2 because I know what's next, it's Divinity OS 2 with Arx and the nameless isle all over again
i prefer arx and nameless isles over bg3 act 3. even the quests seem less focused and crafted like the find the murderer quest from the flaming fist guard. "we can't find any clues" you go to the crimescene and a fricking note is just sitting there giving you the info you need. that would have not been in act 1 or in dos2. it was like end of devolpment we have a quota on number of quests just shit them out
its best ending both homosexuals deserve it
100% kino
i rushed through act 2 and i regret it so much bros... im an explorelet.
I mogged him
I stunned him with Gale (switched him to monk) and then used Hold Monster until everyone killed him dead
I had to channel divinity from Hope to get a full party long rest during the fight but after that it was piss easy. The devil adds gave me more of a trouble
Did you enjoy your new monk gloves?
dude after that boss fight I wasn't challenged by anything in the game so I just went to the final act and murdered everything easily
Karlach (Mind Flayered) and my monk gale fricked up everyone so much
I just got into the lower city and mostly completed the sewers. How much of act III is left? I'm loving the game but I'd like to finish it before ACVI.
doesn't matter because the game doesn't acknowledge anything you do
go just end it
How is BG3's quality compared to Divinity OS2? I can't tell between the infinite amount of shitposting.
I liked it more than D:OS2, shield system was a mistake
if bg3 ended at act 2 it would be one of the most polished completed rpg experiences of all time
with act 3 included. dos 2 especially its de which added content to arx is overall is a better put together game
I liked BG3 all the way up to act 3 but it was still good until then. I tried to play through Divinity 2 on four separate occasions and it just never clicked with me. If that answers your question.
bg3 story and characters are better but the combat is worse.
I feel like DSO2's combat is more of a slog.
I enjoy this game more simply because of the interactive immersive experience, cats tho.
bg3 is pretty fun, taking it slowly though, maybe they will fix all the complaints before I finish
Ending parts of Dos2 were very tedious, that's all I remember
I like the adapted tabletop crpgs more than compare homebrew crpgs like pillars and divinity more often because the magic in dnd is truly unrivaled. hate basic ass elemental shit
Combat's way better in OS2, the game cannot handle lv 5 characters
>Get to act 3
>Get imprisoned to skip over the bridge and enable the waypoint
>Have Jaheira in ur crew and go straight to the counting house and do the quest
>Go to the top left part of steelwatcher industry
>Enter the "KEEP OUT" door in the small "park"
>Do fight
>Turn on non lethal for Minsc
>Recruit him
>You can now enjoy act 3 as its meant to be played with Jaheira and Minsc in your party
The guy + boomer jaheira makes it so much more fun, shame most will get Minsc like 70% through act 3.
>jaheira
>minsc
don't care about nostalgia bait chars
But they're good though.
dun like em, simple as
I'm too loyal to frog, shart and asty to do this. Might do it in a next run
You know what the best part of the end game was?
>Oh boy let's use one of these summons to see what happens!
>oh well that's pretty cool, it made 5 friendly units
>oh wow it sure is taking 15 minutes a round for the NPCs to go....
fricking misery
should have saved them for brain fight
Why? I didn't use them after that because I am not a fan of 10000 minute NPC turns. The homosexual brain got killed in one round vs a fighter and monk.
there's still tentacle, dream guardian, illithid bloat
all sleep inducingly easy so who cares?
blew your load too early
So im almost there again since its 2nd playthrough
You can if you want skip the stair bombardment and just rush up there to the door
But i vaguely remember, and im not sure, can you just rush into the netherbrain and nuke it in the few turns you have? i dont remember if you actually DO have to fight the shit at the big brain fight
yeah you can, as long as the portal goes up
nice
Amazes me they don't have an option to skip NPC turns or at least to fast forward their movement and skip the stupid downtime between actions. Larian has made 3 turn based games now, there is no excuse for missing the most basic shit like that.
combat system in general is buggy especailly in act 3, particularly with latest patches, idk what they did but its worse.
the infuriating part is they DO have that. When like 4-5 minions that are the same need to dash and are controlled by the CPU, you'll see them all do it simultaneously
Oh no no larianbros ppl are finding out the game is unfinished and rushed
The reviews were all BS done by ppl who never finished it
https://x.com/bolverk15/status/1694487106054193633
https://x.com/bolverk15/status/1694430317279379601
https://x.com/bolverk15/status/1694491934851502270
Confirmed that you astroturfing larian troons were shilling a game that has just as much shitty practices as AAA games. Congrats, you are the same cancer you claim to hate
Shazamtroon you need to go back to preparing to fail over AC 6 and Starfield and your eventual suicide.
>x.com
twitter homosexual who cares what we already know
Maybe next time dont gaslight everyone and go into every thread harassing everyone about your shitty unpolished unfinished troon game kthnx
Now the game and its reviews have been confirmed to be BS, you can finally frick off from this board.
even with the shit act 3 and endings, its still goty and deserves its critic rating, because critics are garbage anyway, and Larian compared to 99% of game devs are above them all.
True delusional cultists just as bad as ff cultists and the weebs you larian troons b***h about so much
>you can finally frick off from this board
Here's my answer:
No. Now frick off you moronic fat greasy pretend janny b***h
>beat the game last week
>just realised I didn't use my arrows of fiend slaying, arrows of dragon slaying, or shart's divine intervention
divine intervention is fricking shit, why would you use it
Are the weapons any good? considered trying it on a hireling
lol no it's a +3 mace
because it's there, and maybe for RP reasons
but it did feel dumb to have divine intervention after she turned her back on Shar
I didn't get the impression from the narrative that she'd become a full Selunite zealot so it seemed more like she was between gods
nah Selune was there for her the whole time. One of your companions says something like "Better not ask her where her current powers come from"
I always see divine powers in D&D as a gift from the gods that you grow and learn to harness. It's a gift that once given can't be taken away.
That's Warlock power. Clerical power can 100% be stripped from you.
so can warlocks, see Wyll if you have him save the tiefling barbarian
well, in RAW. I'm sure at the table you could work out story beats or whatever. There is nothing in the book about revoking a patron's powers.
No, cleric and paladin canon abilities are granted by a deity directly. They can revoke them if you act out of line and one day if you enjoy eating children too much, you will wake up powerless if you were a good aligned divine spellcaster.
>paladin
not anymore
Yeah, you have oaths now, they functionally work the same way, unless you're an evil paladin, but then you will have your powers taken away if you help old ladies cross the street too often.
You will never maximize your potential in a game such as this, you will just go for the easiest at your ready solution and you will forget most of whats possible.
The game is piss easy as is but also showers you in tools that are quite frankly needless that allow you to straight up trivialize the encounters. You can beat Raphael turn one by stacking fricking barrels, like in any Larian game, and you don't even need to try hard to assemble such a thing, all you need is an invis potion to dodge the debtors and put the fricking barrels at the start before you grab the hammer. You would actually need to use all the tools in your box and require multiclassing to be mantadory if the fights you undertook demanded you maximized your potential, like SCS Insanity/Ascension does.
Has anyone barrel killed raphael?
Is he not fire immune?
explosions are force damage
Think hes like his Cambions and take 50% fire damage taken
Cambions are not fire immune, only Raphael is.
I've seen a dude do it, smoked all his cambions, the towers and him on the first turn.
Smokepowder does force damage, Raphael takes half damage from it, but with enough stacked, he dies just fine.
game isn't deep enough for that. 5E doesn't allow for real wild thinking like Pathfinder or earlier D&D does
as an item hoarder playing a dex main with no carrying capacity it is a nightmare. Going back to camp to compare some new magic item vs the hundred other magic items, a pouch with so many fricking potions weighing me down, half my inventory is scrolls, the other half is throwables. I can toss it all on my babarian but that's 2 inventorys I have to micro manage.
There isn't really a pressing need to use any consumables other than haste/heroism/strength pots and weapon oils if you melee. Even fewer if you are a caster.
I didn't use any of those, or the free ogre/flesh construct summoming. I barely even used the endgame summons for the final battle.
>97% to hit
>finally use it
>miss