Honestly Yooka-Laylee is such a major improvement over Rare's games character design wise. Idk, that post made it sound like I was shitting on YL but I agree with you.
the camera is absolute fricking garbage. I’m not giving it more than 10 minutes of my time. problems like this were supposed to be fixed after 20 years
>Make a decent spiritual successor to your game, but frick it up with intensely unlikable npcs like Skyward Sword did, make level expansions pointless to wait for past the first two worlds, instead of doing something unique with the first half. Empty ass fields of shit. Unlikable Bee character. Decent bosses and the music music in the game was used for them.
Make a sequel in homage of DKC games, ends up being way fricking better, with a much lower budget. The jokes and characters are all better, the setting is sublime, with Kirkwood doing overworld stuff and David Wise doing serious shit. The base levels are done by a team all aping hard off Wise' style, leaving for some great moments.
Only negative is the game lives up to its namesake, and it's really hard due to Laylee's bullshit, but having a massive overworld to explore and collect and find better shit was very welcome.
Biggest negative being you have to beat the on the first try (For either Impossible or Not-So-Impossible) to unlock the true ending that essentially retcons the entire first game and shakes everything up.
None of this matters as there won't be a sequel. What a weird fricking series. Posting the secret ending where Laylee DBZ's the world with her "wish" along with a bunch of great music from the game.
Any of these songs have 4 different forms, depending on if there is water in the level, and it will dynamically change to a more aquatic/nonacquatic variant. There is a full 8-bit album that sounds great, too, which also goes by the above method. 4 tracks of the same song is a decent amount of work.
Oh, and Bee is a much better character when he's trying to "ape" K Rule in Impossible Lair, rather than whatever the frick is goal is the original.
This is where I'd post the good Yooka Laylee fanart. IF I HAD ANY!
It isn't quite what you think. The very first level of the game has you do the Impossible Lair, instead of the usual "Oh no, level 99 boss fight you have to lose" cliche, where almost everyone loses. That was your own chance to get that ending, but they changed it so you could get it on your first attempt on Not-So-Impossible, but only the first. Doesn't matter how many bees you have. I can't remember if quitting before dying counts as a lose, but it probably does.
Still hard as balls, for what is essentially Laylee re-writing the entire YL lore via fanfiction. If I remember correctly, she makes everything Impossible Lair canon, makes HIVE canon and turns Bee's sister into it, as the new antagonist of the series.
Actually, I might be wrong in that they chose to switch Imposible via a switch like the other levels, and if you DO beat that one now, you get the 3rd ending. Which is a lot more understandable. They haven't worked on it in awhile, though.
You still definitely need to get the NSIL in one shot, so I suggest going in with the max amount of bees, 44. I think. Still, it's not easy.
Really fun, really hard game with great music and level-switching overworld mechanics. It feels like a much harder old Rare game.
>new spiritual successor from people who worked on the classics you love >kickstarter promises that it's going to be just like those classics >it's absolute garbage and feels like a chinese bootleg that fails at everything that made these games good
Happened with Mighty No.9, Bloodstained, and Yooka Laylee
it isn't many games but it's weird that it suddenly happened 3 times within a relatively short time frame
Except yooka laylee is quite literally the exact same game as the classics they replicated and only people that are actually shitters cried about it and ousted themselves as yourube social chameleons
If the core fans say something is shitty it's probably because that thing failed to capture the subtle things that made the reference work special
It's very easy for someone who isn't all that interested in the reference work to begin with to come up with a conclusion that both games are the same because superficially they are similar
And it's also very stupid because it implies you believe a narrative where all of those core fans are all just crazy people with no consistency in their line of thinking who just decided to dunk on a game for no good reason
the overwhelming majority of people agreed years ago yooka laylee is trash
you might get some sympathy defending the sequel, but defending the first game is like trying to heal a corpse
If the core fans say something is shitty it's probably because that thing failed to capture the subtle things that made the reference work special
It's very easy for someone who isn't all that interested in the reference work to begin with to come up with a conclusion that both games are the same because superficially they are similar
And it's also very stupid because it implies you believe a narrative where all of those core fans are all just crazy people with no consistency in their line of thinking who just decided to dunk on a game for no good reason
>if the core fans >number majority
Yeah normie homosexuals who's favorite joo tuber complained about muh camera. Yooka has all the problems banjo has as well as it's own unique problems that never get mentioned by scrimblo homosexuals because they're all too busy parroting youtube and ign reviews
BK had very few problems though and YL just added to them. That move where Laylee rides a rolling Yooka is the worst equivalent to talon trot. I don't know why they made it way harder to control.
The music is forgettable.
The levels are big and empty and the NPCs don't look like they belong there, then for some reason you can turn the levels bigger and emptier.
Saying it's just as good as Banjo-Kazooie is disingenuous
>new spiritual successor from people who worked on the classics you love >kickstarter promises that it's going to be just like those classics >it's absolute garbage and feels like a chinese bootleg that fails at everything that made these games good
Happened with Mighty No.9, Bloodstained, and Yooka Laylee
it isn't many games but it's weird that it suddenly happened 3 times within a relatively short time frame
Banjo doesn't have ANY problems, it's as simple as a 3D platformer can get without being obtuse and lacking tools.
That's why YL blows such dick. Here's a game about simplicity in movement and they add a bunch of physics-based untested shit that's not precise in the least to be used with precise platforming. You know what was great about Banjo? He effectively had a triple jump at all times. It was difficult to frick up platforming when you can use Kazooie to hover in the air for free.
>muh precision >here bro just hit this tiny ring with arbitrary hitboxes while kazooie goes woosh >here bro I know you basically flew into the buttons of the snowman but the N64 thinks you were slightly over so you'll be sent across half the map, straight into damaging water AND take collision damage >nah mate you missed that lamp eater somehow whoops timer's up repeat these 60 seconds please >JUST SWIM THROUGH THE RINGS BRO >JUST HIT THIS RECEPTACLE WITH YOUR ASS BRO
you're being dishonest
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If you're pointing to one off events instead of something persistent that just shows those are the exceptions that prove the rule. If I wanted to make the case that say Banjo Kazooie isn't a hard game I wouldn't list one off instances. I would talk about persistent things such as the plentiful health drops, the lack of environmental damage, and the lack of enemies that do more than just run forward. And the odd boss fight or mini game that is tough would be the exceptions that prove the rule.
This style of listing off as many one line green texts by annon instead of summarizing the whole thing in a few brief sentences is just terrible persuasion in general.
sluggish movement and combat like the NES games while the DS games already had made it so much better
shit graphics with a generic setting
uninteresting exploration with nothing more to find than useless crafting materials so going anywhere that isn't the main path is a waste of time
garbage story with way too much dialogue despite having no substance
didn't improve anything from the classic games and didn't add anything besides the crafting system which is a filler gimmick that only adds a chore to the game
the whole game feels like a low budget ripoff made by students doing an asset flip, and it puts iga's talent in doubt, same as inafune
good idea, poor execution. there was 2 mildly enjoyable levels in that game, the first and the casino level but expansion was a meh gimmick. you can tell they implemented the character controller with dynamic rigidbody physics too which is fricking terrible. any platforming game that doesn't have a kinematic character is trash.
For those who actually beat the game what did you not like? For me, I did not like the stage expansion, the terrible and sometimes useless transformations, the overworld, and the fact that they put too much for you to collect.
Level design was bad in general. In Banjo when you go inside a door it leads to the inside of the structure. Doors in Yooka Laylee just go to random places (A door that goes inside a mountain returns to a different area on the outside the mountain, not the inside). The 2D game was good though.
I really hated that the Queen Phoebee wasn't a character in the first one and wasn't voiced by Nicole Oliver like she did in DeathSpank 1+2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoGLznXLCl8
If you know, you know.
i thought it was ok until i got to the shitty casino. its like mario sunshine blue coins again. good luck trying to keep track of what machines youve completed or not, especially if you take a break. i was already annoyed then got to the gay minecart minigame and just stopped. its like they have some sort of quota to meet for annoying minigames per game.
Can some artist or character design gay explain to me why I find those two so obnoxious compared to shit like Crash Bandicoot or Banjo & Kazooie? Something just feels off about them.
I may be wrong but to me it's just the fact that they don't match modern aesthetic trends, they feel insincere in that they're purposefully trying to recapture that late 90s-early 2000s scrimblo feel instead of being their own thing.
It's as if Cartoon Network suddenly put on a show that looks exactly like early Powerpuff Girls or Dexter, it'd be a jarring and immediately obvious appeal to nostalgiagays.
I think this, looks like they wanted low poly 90s mascot characters but added starfield sweatshop levels of polygons to them until it's too smooth and too blocky at the same time.
My best guess is it's the sunken eyes. Banjo and Kazooie and Crash all have bulging expressive happy googly eyes. Yooka and Laylee just look sad and sleep deprived
Same here. Best boss, best transformation, and an actual ceiling so you can tell where to generally go, instead of flying into an invisible barrier. World 2 Part 2 does look great, though. 3 is the world easily.
I lost interest pretty fast. The character is ugly and stupid an having to look at it every frame really hurts the fun. And the rate at which you have something fun to do is weak anyway. There is a lot walking through empty space without any jumping, fighting, collecting, or even something beautiful to look at.
It's not a bad game but if you are going to play 3D platformers I'd go through all the A-listers and a few of the B-listers before touching this. You just have better things to do.
The world was too square for my taste.
Forced buzzword
The Rare aesthetic is so unappealing
It really is, thank god Retro fixed DKC.
Honestly Yooka-Laylee is such a major improvement over Rare's games character design wise. Idk, that post made it sound like I was shitting on YL but I agree with you.
after replaying it wasn't as bad as I remember but it still doesn't hold a candle to the N64 games
You are father removed from the era of platformers now, so you can enjoy it more for what it is.
the camera is absolute fricking garbage. I’m not giving it more than 10 minutes of my time. problems like this were supposed to be fixed after 20 years
Soulless
didn't they announce a sequel to the first game after tencent invested? what happened to that shit?
There is a sequel, its a 2.5D sidescroller.
that's a spin-off, im talking about an actual direct sequel to the 3d platforming first game.
they're an indie publisher now, more profitable esp. now that they have investors.
that was the better game too.
I actually like it more than the DKC Returns games.
there's no such thing as 2.5D.
Sidescrolling platformers are 2D no matter what artstyle they choose.
Safe horny bowlbo
>rubs oil into stretchmarks
What're the chances they get a crossover game with Banjo-Kazooie
Haven't Banjo and Kazooie suffered enough?
what happened to them
>Make a decent spiritual successor to your game, but frick it up with intensely unlikable npcs like Skyward Sword did, make level expansions pointless to wait for past the first two worlds, instead of doing something unique with the first half. Empty ass fields of shit. Unlikable Bee character. Decent bosses and the music music in the game was used for them.
Make a sequel in homage of DKC games, ends up being way fricking better, with a much lower budget. The jokes and characters are all better, the setting is sublime, with Kirkwood doing overworld stuff and David Wise doing serious shit. The base levels are done by a team all aping hard off Wise' style, leaving for some great moments.
Only negative is the game lives up to its namesake, and it's really hard due to Laylee's bullshit, but having a massive overworld to explore and collect and find better shit was very welcome.
Biggest negative being you have to beat the on the first try (For either Impossible or Not-So-Impossible) to unlock the true ending that essentially retcons the entire first game and shakes everything up.
None of this matters as there won't be a sequel. What a weird fricking series. Posting the secret ending where Laylee DBZ's the world with her "wish" along with a bunch of great music from the game.
Any of these songs have 4 different forms, depending on if there is water in the level, and it will dynamically change to a more aquatic/nonacquatic variant. There is a full 8-bit album that sounds great, too, which also goes by the above method. 4 tracks of the same song is a decent amount of work.
Here's that ending no one ever sees without help:
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Oh, and Bee is a much better character when he's trying to "ape" K Rule in Impossible Lair, rather than whatever the frick is goal is the original.
This is where I'd post the good Yooka Laylee fanart. IF I HAD ANY!
>Not-So-Impossible
This was an update, right? What fricking pussies.
It isn't quite what you think. The very first level of the game has you do the Impossible Lair, instead of the usual "Oh no, level 99 boss fight you have to lose" cliche, where almost everyone loses. That was your own chance to get that ending, but they changed it so you could get it on your first attempt on Not-So-Impossible, but only the first. Doesn't matter how many bees you have. I can't remember if quitting before dying counts as a lose, but it probably does.
Still hard as balls, for what is essentially Laylee re-writing the entire YL lore via fanfiction. If I remember correctly, she makes everything Impossible Lair canon, makes HIVE canon and turns Bee's sister into it, as the new antagonist of the series.
Oh. Interesting.
Actually, I might be wrong in that they chose to switch Imposible via a switch like the other levels, and if you DO beat that one now, you get the 3rd ending. Which is a lot more understandable. They haven't worked on it in awhile, though.
You still definitely need to get the NSIL in one shot, so I suggest going in with the max amount of bees, 44. I think. Still, it's not easy.
Really fun, really hard game with great music and level-switching overworld mechanics. It feels like a much harder old Rare game.
Good write up
Sex with the bat girl and Rule 63 lizard
>new spiritual successor from people who worked on the classics you love
>kickstarter promises that it's going to be just like those classics
>it's absolute garbage and feels like a chinese bootleg that fails at everything that made these games good
Happened with Mighty No.9, Bloodstained, and Yooka Laylee
it isn't many games but it's weird that it suddenly happened 3 times within a relatively short time frame
Except yooka laylee is quite literally the exact same game as the classics they replicated and only people that are actually shitters cried about it and ousted themselves as yourube social chameleons
Wrong
Nice argument moron
If the core fans say something is shitty it's probably because that thing failed to capture the subtle things that made the reference work special
It's very easy for someone who isn't all that interested in the reference work to begin with to come up with a conclusion that both games are the same because superficially they are similar
And it's also very stupid because it implies you believe a narrative where all of those core fans are all just crazy people with no consistency in their line of thinking who just decided to dunk on a game for no good reason
the overwhelming majority of people agreed years ago yooka laylee is trash
you might get some sympathy defending the sequel, but defending the first game is like trying to heal a corpse
>if the core fans
>number majority
Yeah normie homosexuals who's favorite joo tuber complained about muh camera. Yooka has all the problems banjo has as well as it's own unique problems that never get mentioned by scrimblo homosexuals because they're all too busy parroting youtube and ign reviews
BK had very few problems though and YL just added to them. That move where Laylee rides a rolling Yooka is the worst equivalent to talon trot. I don't know why they made it way harder to control.
The music is forgettable.
The levels are big and empty and the NPCs don't look like they belong there, then for some reason you can turn the levels bigger and emptier.
Saying it's just as good as Banjo-Kazooie is disingenuous
Banjo doesn't have ANY problems, it's as simple as a 3D platformer can get without being obtuse and lacking tools.
That's why YL blows such dick. Here's a game about simplicity in movement and they add a bunch of physics-based untested shit that's not precise in the least to be used with precise platforming. You know what was great about Banjo? He effectively had a triple jump at all times. It was difficult to frick up platforming when you can use Kazooie to hover in the air for free.
>muh precision
>here bro just hit this tiny ring with arbitrary hitboxes while kazooie goes woosh
>here bro I know you basically flew into the buttons of the snowman but the N64 thinks you were slightly over so you'll be sent across half the map, straight into damaging water AND take collision damage
>nah mate you missed that lamp eater somehow whoops timer's up repeat these 60 seconds please
>JUST SWIM THROUGH THE RINGS BRO
>JUST HIT THIS RECEPTACLE WITH YOUR ASS BRO
you're being dishonest
If you're pointing to one off events instead of something persistent that just shows those are the exceptions that prove the rule. If I wanted to make the case that say Banjo Kazooie isn't a hard game I wouldn't list one off instances. I would talk about persistent things such as the plentiful health drops, the lack of environmental damage, and the lack of enemies that do more than just run forward. And the odd boss fight or mini game that is tough would be the exceptions that prove the rule.
This style of listing off as many one line green texts by annon instead of summarizing the whole thing in a few brief sentences is just terrible persuasion in general.
>Yooka has all the problems banjo has as well
Lol no.
I enjoyed Bloodstained. What was wrong with it?
sluggish movement and combat like the NES games while the DS games already had made it so much better
shit graphics with a generic setting
uninteresting exploration with nothing more to find than useless crafting materials so going anywhere that isn't the main path is a waste of time
garbage story with way too much dialogue despite having no substance
didn't improve anything from the classic games and didn't add anything besides the crafting system which is a filler gimmick that only adds a chore to the game
the whole game feels like a low budget ripoff made by students doing an asset flip, and it puts iga's talent in doubt, same as inafune
Sounds like a (You) problem.
Peiple jerk off bloodstain now. No idea why
coomers eating up any troonime trash as always
Better than Tooie
So true sis
World 2 best aesthetically, then Casino = Galaxy
Helo best translation, Casino best boss fight and song.
Please enjoy these irrefutable facts.
I enjoyed Yooka-Layle more than I did DK64 and Tooie
BK>YL>DK64>BT
epic twitter meme you fricking homosexual
dead twitter meme, they're called gwimblys now
OH GOD WHAT IS THIS
This and the refrigerator are by far the worst character designs in the game. Fricking hideous.
Oh I forgot to add the boss planet and it's dog thing.
You know, without the hands and the beard, this wouldn't be that bad.
I enjoyed it
can you guys post yooka-layle art and reaction images
I bought it day one and still regret it to this day. I tried to refund it, and was denied.
I am still mad.
good idea, poor execution. there was 2 mildly enjoyable levels in that game, the first and the casino level but expansion was a meh gimmick. you can tell they implemented the character controller with dynamic rigidbody physics too which is fricking terrible. any platforming game that doesn't have a kinematic character is trash.
For those who actually beat the game what did you not like? For me, I did not like the stage expansion, the terrible and sometimes useless transformations, the overworld, and the fact that they put too much for you to collect.
Level design was bad in general. In Banjo when you go inside a door it leads to the inside of the structure. Doors in Yooka Laylee just go to random places (A door that goes inside a mountain returns to a different area on the outside the mountain, not the inside). The 2D game was good though.
I really hated that the Queen Phoebee wasn't a character in the first one and wasn't voiced by Nicole Oliver like she did in DeathSpank 1+2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoGLznXLCl8
If you know, you know.
forced humiliation ritual kino
i thought it was ok until i got to the shitty casino. its like mario sunshine blue coins again. good luck trying to keep track of what machines youve completed or not, especially if you take a break. i was already annoyed then got to the gay minecart minigame and just stopped. its like they have some sort of quota to meet for annoying minigames per game.
Can some artist or character design gay explain to me why I find those two so obnoxious compared to shit like Crash Bandicoot or Banjo & Kazooie? Something just feels off about them.
I may be wrong but to me it's just the fact that they don't match modern aesthetic trends, they feel insincere in that they're purposefully trying to recapture that late 90s-early 2000s scrimblo feel instead of being their own thing.
It's as if Cartoon Network suddenly put on a show that looks exactly like early Powerpuff Girls or Dexter, it'd be a jarring and immediately obvious appeal to nostalgiagays.
I think this, looks like they wanted low poly 90s mascot characters but added starfield sweatshop levels of polygons to them until it's too smooth and too blocky at the same time.
My best guess is it's the sunken eyes. Banjo and Kazooie and Crash all have bulging expressive happy googly eyes. Yooka and Laylee just look sad and sleep deprived
For me it's the individually rendered teeth. The basedface is also trying too hard to scream "adventure!"
This shit fired Jontron and then bombed, everyone fricking says it sucks ass.
If you want a good 3D game throwback just play Lucky's Tale instead.
>tumblr nose
why
?
mediocre as hell nostalgiabait kiddy game
spongebob rehydrated is much better kiddy platformer, doesnt hold a candle to banjo kazooi either
>LET ME POST MY ZOOMER GAME AS THE BASED ONE, MR BOOMERS
YOU WILL NEVER BE BASED, SPONGEBOB ZOOMIE
>zoomie
im a millenial broseph
>SPONGEBOB
>ZOOMIE
Why does everyone hate the casino world? I thought it was the best world.
Same here. Best boss, best transformation, and an actual ceiling so you can tell where to generally go, instead of flying into an invisible barrier. World 2 Part 2 does look great, though. 3 is the world easily.
That transformation was actually useful unlike the other ones, thought I feel transformation in general were useless.
not enough porn of the bat
how do you guys compare it to the rare 3D platformers?
Is the game as fun as Banjo-Kazooie? I've always wanted to try it.
I lost interest pretty fast. The character is ugly and stupid an having to look at it every frame really hurts the fun. And the rate at which you have something fun to do is weak anyway. There is a lot walking through empty space without any jumping, fighting, collecting, or even something beautiful to look at.
It's not a bad game but if you are going to play 3D platformers I'd go through all the A-listers and a few of the B-listers before touching this. You just have better things to do.
>The character is ugly and stupid
you have to be 18+ to post here
You're a child. Even if you're 18 mentally you still are one.
Where can I find good art of yooka-layle?