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How is forced soul different from soulless?
It's disingenuous
Lacks passion
No care
Corporate stink
So is Ganker forced soul?
Yes
All that shitposting and lore? Completely forced and fake, nothing actually had impact beyond making this site worse
So in other words it isn't different.
it pretends to be soulful
kinda like nintentrannies pretend to be women
forced soul means it's soulful but I still want to hate it so I say it's forced
It's soulless but pretends to soulful. Really not hard to understand.
Why do you fanboys keep pretending it's somehow an indecipherable concept? Or are you literally THAT stupid?
declarative meme statements aren't explanations, how is it forced ? explain without buzzwords
He's just mad they added more soul than they needed to.
You have to be 18 or older to post here.
>mario only needs 3 frames of animation to function
>let's make it 12 frames so people would think we put our heart and soul into this
>WHILE WE ACTUALLY ONLY WANT MONEY
>small mario looks goofy and endearing at the same time
>let's make small mario a thing again so people would think we care about our legacy and are not afraid to be cute
>WHILE WE ACTUALLY ONLY WANT MONEY
This would still be a product made for profit even if it was literally NSMB3.
>let's make small mario a thing again
This mechanic is in every 2D Mario game, the last of which came out only 4 years ago
so by your logic, they should be making the game look worse or similar to the same mario games that have already existed for 30 years, because what's the point in malingnolit look unique when they're only doing it for money? get your commie bullshit out of here homosexual
>WHILE WE ACTUALLY ONLY WANT MONEY
It's the driving force behind the entire industry. People don't make games for free.
Well they should.
Okay, comrade.
>forced soul schizo a filthy commietroonynall along
why am i not surprised
>hurrdurr profits bad
what the frick is this moronic commie mindset
for once we get a developer that's prettying up it's actual product for the sake of selling instead of bloating the marketing and you frickers are complaining that they only do so because they have bills to pay
only needs 3 frames of animation to function
>>let's make it 12 frames so people would think we put our heart and soul into this
WE ACTUALLY ONLY WANT MONEY
So wait, hang on, them actually putting effort into Mario instead of doing the bare minimum for the same profit is soulless??
You're fricking moronic. Every Mario game ever has been a business venture from a corporation that intended to turn a profit.
>It's soulless but pretends to soulful. Really not hard to understand.
i think this is what most people dislike about the nuwonder mario because it looks like a calarts student trying hard to trace an original artist's work from decades ago. it's blatant pandering to retrogays but nobody is biting except the reddit and twitter goys who eat the slop
I'm biting because at the very least they give a shit beyond just finishing the product.
Are we really supposed to be mad because they tried beyond the bare minimum? Like, the team COULD have just made another shovelware 2D Mario game but they wanted to inject some love into it. Whether they borrow from retro stuff or not I think it has some semblance of soul.
>Are we really supposed to be mad because they tried beyond the bare minimum?
Apparently yes we are. Which is fricking dumb because as you said they could have just done New Soup again.
I haven't seen anyone really complain about the style choice either except for some that say it looks a bit too 'weird' and 'wacky'.
Honestly the whole argument feels like it's just to farm (You).
Personally, I don’t have any special problem with the design choices, I just call them for what they are. Deliberate and uninspired checking of boxes is better than only doing the bare minimum, I’m just not gonna sit here in slack-jawed YouTube thumbnail awe and post LETS GOOOOOOOO like a fricking moron because the market research team finally figured out “small touches of character personality increase sales”
I would much rather the art style have blatant pandering to retrogays than New Super Fluoride Stare. The real issue that nobody is talking about because there's much less to go off of is if the level design is going to be that much different because the Wonder Flower is basically Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy 2.0.
It's just a shitty buzzword.
>THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FORCED SOUL. IT'S EITHER SOUL OR SOULLESS
>A soul is a soul, you can't say it's only forced
It sounds even more moronic and as such, yields more (You)s
You're asking about a term that was literally made up 3 days ago because Ganker can't actually find anything to criticize about this game having tons of effort put into it.
This is moronic
Is a remaster Forced Soul just because its the old thing again?
Go frick yourself
>Is a remaster Forced Soul just because its the old thing again?
A remaster? No.
A remake (or a remake masquerading as a "remaster")? Yes.
WRONG.
Fixed
Literally Polandball.
Do zoomers really think old games were free?
I mean Cave Story is one of the most soulful games ever made, has always been free and just turned 18.
Different for the sake of being different
Soul just means nostalgia. In 20 years the morons spamming this meme will call this game soul.
>Soul just means nostalgia
Uninformed and souless take.
Prove it wrong.
Jaws: The Revenge
If you had a soul you would know what it means. Instead you called it nostalgia. You dont have a soul. Youre an npc.
>forced meme
>forced soul
Soul just means the developers were passionate about their work and were granted the creative liberties to make something truly their own.
Soulless means the developers either didn't care, or were pressured by the company into producing a half-baked by-the-numbers product that appeals to the masses but not to the hearts of fans.
Prove me wrong.
More or less true. Authenticity and sincerity are the key traits of soul.
I thinkin addition to your points, technology encompasses it to a large scale.
When you're limited by the tools you have that causes you to be more creative to find a working solution.
With current technology there is hardly any limit so there's no need to be creative.
Oh look an actual good reply, what a fricking rarity.
So RDR2 has soul
I don't get it.
Where is the jak?
This. Remake it with souljaks please.
>souljaks
Please tell me this isn't a thing
What does the pepsi have to do with anything?
Forced product
>gay drawgay was actually a covert shill this entire time
Since that artist is a furgay it makes me think of those threads where Banjo wants me to suck on a Pepsi that might actually be his wiener
Have you drawn Elephant Mario sitting on your face yet?
Forced meme
Forced thread
Forced moronation
Once upon a time, in the enchanting realm of video games, there existed a legendary franchise known as Super Mario Bros. For decades, it captured the hearts and souls of players with its whimsical worlds, memorable characters, and exhilarating gameplay. Mario's adventures took players on soulful journeys filled with wonder and genuine excitement. However, amidst the ever-evolving gaming landscape, a new title emerged: Super Mario Bros. Wonder™.
At first glance, Super Mario Bros. Wonder™ appeared to be a dazzling spectacle. Its graphics were meticulously polished, with vibrant colors and stunning details. The game flaunted its self-awareness, peppering every level with references and nods to its own legacy. Yet, as players delved deeper into this digital realm, something felt amiss.
Gone was the pure, unadulterated soul that had infused the earlier Mario games. Instead, Super Mario Bros. Wonder™ seemed to be a victim of its own desire to impress. Its every pixel screamed for attention, but it lacked the genuine heart that had made its predecessors so endearing. It was a game meticulously crafted to mimic soulfulness, but ultimately, it fell short.
The levels, while visually captivating, lacked the organic charm that once characterized Mario's universe. The environments were meticulously designed, yet they lacked the whimsical spontaneity that had made players feel like they were stepping into a living, breathing world. The once-beloved characters had lost their genuine depth and became caricatures of their former selves, delivering predictable catchphrases and lacking the soulful essence that players had come to adore.
As players journeyed through Super Mario Bros. Wonder™, they couldn't help but feel that they were being force-fed a manufactured soul. It was as if the game tried desperately to convince them of its wonder, yet it felt hollow, like an echo of what once was.
I love this so much. Every 2-3 years we get a game that actually breaks Ganker's brain. It's so fun arguing online
I really don't get why this phrase is passing off vee so much. Its fairly factual and a good term, is it because a nintendo exclusive birthed it and it caused nintentroonys to cry?
Because it's a moronic phrase that really makes no sense.
The game either has soul because the developers generally wanted to make a good game and put as much love as they could into it.
Or it's soulless due to being incredibly corporate, bland and uninspired, purely to make ends meet with 0 passion behind it.
There is nothing else and trying to make forced soul a thing is forced.
tl'dr, you're a homosexual.
Because its just snoy cope
That's not an argument it's just buzzwords
Just like forced soul.
quality post
Yes, it’s filtering tendies off the board as the prophecy foretold.
You made this up 2 days ago. There's nothing factual about it. It's obvious you have no real criticisms even by the structuring of the words. The words you just made up because you have no real critique. Not that anyone cares about your critique of a game you haven't played.
>is it because a nintendo exclusive birthed it and it caused nintentroonys to cry?
Literally yes.
the truth is no one is actually upset by this shitposting. in fact it's grass roots shilling for the game and more and more people will hatebuy it and pirate it and play it "ironically" then spend hours nitpicking over pixels spouting how forced it is. in reality the actual outcome from all this nonsense at the end of the day the game will be a nice 2d platformer
>forced soul
The new "i hate it" mene phrase when there is nothing else to say about it. It is either soulless or forced soul from now on. Nothing will ever be as good as when you were 12.
That time again already?
>Forced Slop
So a game that is exceedingly soulful at every moment, but has to limit itself to its most normie ideas because the dev knows it won't sell otherwise?
>goyludo
so lowest common denominator game that is somehow incredibly fun to play still?
Isn't that what Mario is?
KINOPILLED
LETS GOOOOOOOO
>honest horny
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
Just regular horny
Leisure Suit Larry or Bonetown
Dead or Alive
Me me me I want one
>safeslop
now I'm sad that I got the most boring one
>Honestesque
I could see one of you frickers trying to force this one
Something that has many half-truths, intentionally vague, generally untrustworthy, etc.
So "deceitful"?
Jesus Christ all these new buzzwords only exist because zoomers and/or ESLs never learned English past a 6th grade level.
On that note, "forced soul" is stupider way of saying "pandering"
forced post
coaled
Skull emoji
So Ganker is Honestesque?
>Honestesque Cringecore Ludokino
>Cringeslop
The Big Bang Theory?
>Manufactured Ludo
aren't all ludos, by definition, manufactured?
Uhhhh
I guess the dinosaur game you get when there's no internet?
WHAT DINOSAUR GAME?
Bro?
>KinoWare
Already a thing.
>Kino Slop
elder scrolls series
>KinoTrash
A game that is extremely soulful and fun, despite being extremely janky, poorly designed, and obtuse.
You frickers will post this in every thread making it Goyslop
>troony kino
uhh a hat in time and celeste I guess?
>Manufactured Soul
hehe
>Artificial pilled
okay?
>goyesque
>CringeSoul
The S-blade has a hackblood charge
>Honest Slop
"Golden" age Ubislop titles like FarCry 4 or Asscreed 3?
>Manufactured horny
That's just anything you can find on f95zone.
">forced wiener"- OPs anus every night before bed, usually multiple timrs
>Wants to say soulless but can’t because the game is soulful
>still wants to push this meme buzzword so they say “forced soul”
You guys are fricking pathetic holy shit
Reminder that a handful of schizoids literally rule this board because you're all a bunch of morons who fall for their perfectly crafted bait words.
keep my name out of your fricking mouth
>perfectly crafted
Black person they keep replying to themselves in an attempt to fabricate consensus
it's like how, ironically, all the top subreddits are run by just a handful of the sweatiest pedos on the internet
Actually watched the trailer. Looks pretty fun, but I generally don't play platformers.
Anon's post in ther thread pointed out it's supposed to look wacky to prepare you for shit to go crazy in wonder flower mode.
isn't this just NSMB? did they kill NEW from the brand?
>forced meme
After careful analysis, I've come to the conclusion the forced soul schizo just hates Italians.
What is forced soul? What is soul?
Unless we can have clearly defined terms this discussion is sentimental and filled with post-modern opnion-isms.
t.never played a nintendo game apart form cracked versions of mario on a pentium 4 pc back in the day.
Is that the new buzzword around here?
>safe horny
how long till this gets a word filter? Spamming Mario threads with this shit is one thing, flooding the whole board with threads about a fricking buzzword wont end well.
>forced animation
i dont like how peach suddenly gets a pink hat
Is this forced soul?
Yes. Anything from 2007 and onwards is literally forced soul.
>Fun looking game
>Ganker hates it
Go post about Dragon's Dogma chud
forced animation threads have been happening for years where are why are the twitter and reddit troonys suddenly crying about it? NUWONDER is by definition forced soul. it fools goys who don't know SOUL when they see it
What makes you think you know what soul is?
soulless forced post
>forced animation threads have been happening for years
Yeah, and they've been fricking moronic for years. 99% of the time it's either "THIS THING I DON'T LIKE IS WELL ANIMATED AND I DONT LIKE THAT" or "THIS ANIMATION ISNT GOOD BUT HAS A LOT OF FRAMES AND I CAN'T CONVEY THEY BECAUSE I'M moronic".
Nintourists don't know that. They just exist to worship corporations and consoom products.
This entire “forced soul” thing is hilarious to me. It reeks of people who put all of their stock into using the subjective concept of “soul” as legitimate criticism against games they don’t like, suddenly having to confront the idea that a game they don’t like might fall under their predefined concept of “soul,” and, instead of admitting it, are scrambling to find some other way to justify their disdain
I think this board has hit a new low these past couple months. You morons have gone completely insane.
Zowie wowie
and somehow it'll still find ways to get even worse than this
Nintendo fans
>Graphics don't matter
Also Nintendo fans
>Sniff it's just like I remember. Sniff just like my childhood. Sniff the SOVL is amazing
Anyone who has ever said "graphics don't matter" it a know-nothing nitwit. Graphics, like sound design, are incredibly important. What doesn't matter is the nebulous concept of everything being as high fidelity as possible for no reason other than being able to say that your game pushes 9.8 Terashits per Megafart of raytracing power who 4.8 quadrillion megatexture tesselation. It's needless wanking over shit that doesn't matter and almost never has any actual thought or artistic intent behind it.
Those sentences are consistent with each other, I know you want to do the bit where I go graphics =/= _____ and you go "your reddit gold good sir" but you have to try harder than this, man.
Sonygays eternally seething
Shouldn't you be playing Final Fantasy 16 instead of seethposting about how good the new Mario is?
I wish I could lynch the moron that started using "forced soul".
That's not something you can force you fricking morons.
If you think this is "forced soul", then let's see you guys animate it correctly, do the inverse of that Mario hat flopping animation and tone Wonder Mario down.
so when it's really successful are snoys going to cry "forced sales?"
"i-it's shipped, not soul'd"
You "forced soul" Black folk are moronic and genuinely just want to complain about new thing. It's the most charming looking mainline Mario game we've gotten since the birth of the DS and yes 'Im counting Odyssey and Mario Galaxy.
>genuinely moronic
Yes
>just want to complain
No
The Flower Kingdom had better either be the capital of Sarasaland, an ally of Sarasaland or just another part of Sarasaland. Daisy better not have had her empire downgraded to a single Kingdom.
that's just the first level welcoming the players to the new kingdom, which is the entire game
I’m saying this new Kingdom better not replace Sarasaland as Daisy’s home.
Why would that be the case?
The Fire Kingdom doesn't stop being Bowser's when he's busy fighting somewhere else, nor does the paranormal dimension stop being ruled by King Boo when he's stuck in the Poltergust.
why do people keep pretending forced soul isn't a real definable term?
What's the definition, and how does it apply to Super Mario Bros Wonder?
Forced soul is absurd definition. It's like thinking there are more than 2 genders. Game can only be either soulful or soulless. What is truly forced in this whole debate is a "forced soul" meme itself.
nope.