>Fortnite is on the decline
>Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster
>Epic Games Store is dead
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>Fortnite is on the decline. >Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster. >Epic Games Store is dead
>Fortnite is on the decline
>Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster
>Epic Games Store is dead
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Fortnite good
rest is shit
simple.
Without fortnite there is no egs
>Fortnite good
are you underage or are we at the point the little shits grew up yet?
>Fortnite is bad
Yes. It's fricking awful.
Please elaborate exactly what makes the game bad.
>It's a game that uses a battle pass for it's business model
>Microtransaction shop that is exploitative of children
>It's a battle royale game in 2023
>It uses characters from varying properties with no sense of cohesion whatsoever
>has politically related events like the holocaust museum and black history month stuff in the cartoon game where john wick dabs on thanos which is incredibly tonally inconsistent
>The de-listing of the Unreal Tournament franchise can be through-linked directly to Epic's hubris born of fortnite
>gave Epic Games Store enough money to start holding games hostage to their shitty store instead of spending that money on making the store better
I could go on but I've already engaged with bait enough as it is.
>It's a game that uses a battle pass for it's business model
It's like the single least predatory battlepass of all games. Compare it to Dota 2 which invented Battlepass where you have to pay like 300 bucks to get a skin they REMOVED
>Microtransaction shop that is exploitative of children
See above, other games have outright gambling with lootboxes like most Valve games.
>It's a battle royale game in 2023
Nice argument?
>It uses characters from varying properties with no sense of cohesion whatsoever
Yeah like Super Smash like people praise like crazy here and makes the board unusable because of the hype it makes.
>has politically related events like the holocaust museum and black history month stuff in the cartoon game where john wick dabs on thanos which is incredibly tonally inconsistent
You mean the events where you could throw tomatos at the screen and do whip lash emotes at black people?
>The de-listing of the Unreal Tournament franchise can be through-linked directly to Epic's hubris born of fortnite
What does that have to do with the game?
>gave Epic Games Store enough money to start holding games hostage to their shitty store instead of spending that money on making the store better
See above
So your entire argument is that it has a battlepass...which is not even predatory at all compared to other games. Could you please actually list some GAMEPLAY stuff?
Exactly like above, you mostly just complain about the microtransactions which is way better than the regular standard.
>defends microtransactions that exploit children and battle passes you have to treat like a second job
Yeah, this is the caliber of moron I thought I was arguing with.
"way better than the regular standard" =/= good, you cuck-in-the-corner kansas city homosexual
you'll be defending genshin impact next
So why are you not doing threads complaining about Valve games if you think it's such a problem? Valve outright hire psychologists for their gambling shit for children.
https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/jobs?job_id=11
Rest assured that if someone tries to argue that CSGO skin trading is a good thing, I will call them at least as much of a moron as I'm calling you.
So how come I have never once seen you or anyone else complain about Valve in any CS:GO or Dota thread here on Ganker?
What you are doing is like complaining about someone taking his car to work while there's people having private jets they use to do shopping.
>So how come I have never once seen you or anyone else complain about Valve in any CS:GO or Dota thread here on Ganker?
not that anon but we're simply not fricking playing the games, also how do (You) know we never complained about those things? We're anonymous here.
>So how come I have never once seen you or anyone else complain about Valve in any CS:GO or Dota thread here on Ganker?
1) Unironically there's next to no DOTA+CS:GO fanservice+porn. Less coombait threads get made for those games, less discussion.
2) DOTA and CS:GO are frequented by gambling addicts and korean webcafe denizens respectively, where Fortnite is frequented by children who sneak onto Ganker to sulk when they're forced to stop playing Fortnite by their parents.
3) Lurk more.
CS has always been a game played mostly by small kids.
CS has always been a game watched on twitch by small kids.
Actual playerbase skews a bit older with a mix of german perverts, snapback cap wearing americatards and terrorist sympathisers from Dubai.
Fortnite playerbase on the other hand has always been underage fat kids who build parasocial relationships with Ninja and DrDisrespect.
Because I don't play CS:GO or DOTA and don't think their lootboxes are defensible either, I have no attachment to valve outside of how good their storefront and work on proton is (I'd abandon them in a heartbeat for GOG or itch.io if those stores caught up with steam's features in their launcher).
Meanwhile, you play fortnite, you defend fortnite, and your argument in favor of it boils down to "B-BUT THE OTHER COMPANIES DID IT SO IT'S OKAY WHEN WE DO" which shows where your priorities are. When I don't like something, I respond by clicking the ignore button and moving onto something else in my wishlist, because steam gives me the tools to filter it almost completely out of sight and out of mind. Epic Games Store does not.
I'll say it again
>What you are doing is like complaining about someone taking his car to work while there's people having private jets they use to do shopping.
So why the frick are you in a thread about a game you don't play or a store you don't use?
>So why the frick are you in a thread about a game you don't play or a store you don't use?
Because I wanted to see people shit on Unreal Engine 5 and EGS. I care less about fortnite, unreal engine 5 and EGS are industry wide problems due to how unoptimized UE5 games have been and how EGS holds games hostage for a year. I can be interested in a game, and grieve the use of UE5 to make it, or EGS exclusivity holding it on a store that sucks.
I do not care about fortnite, I only bring up my dislike for it because it was asked.
>Crafting compelling gameplay experiences for future Valve titles
>Providing insights on human behavior to improve customer experiences on Steam, our game distribution platform
Legitimately israeli I swear, trying to make steam sale fomo more appealing and the Fukien gambling elements that will probably stick around in cs 2
>What does that have to do with the game?
It has to do with the game leading Epic to take the action described. Maybe you have difficulty understanding meta. You seem to struggle with most of the points made and resort to blindly excusing them all in Epic's favor.
>why is Fortnite a bad game?
>BECAUSE EPIC DARED TO MAKE A STORE TO COMPETE WITH VALVE!"
ok?
Yes. The predation on children gave Epic the means to engage in aggressively anti-consumer practices. And yes, Valve are not innocent either. What is wrong with you? Do you work for Epic or something?
>It's like the single least predatory battlepass of all games.
That's not true, that title would unironically go to Halo Infinite since the passes in that game never expire once the season ends.
It does have issues like it taking fricking forever to actually complete it though.
The gameplay is general passable for what it is but is in no way outstanding. Battlepasses are shite. The design and gameplay loop is about driving players to spend to feel a rush from their purchases, rather than giving them actual value. The aesthetic design and artwork is disgusting, all very calarts adjacent, seemingly designed for infantile autistic festhism. The playerbase they have actively sought out and promoted the game to are intellectually and emotionally immature and obnoxious in real terms, I don't mean that in a gamers being gamers sense, I mean they are actually children because they are more susceptible the the game's marketing, and playing with those drooling children is detrimental to the experience, both for adults and other children. It is also single handedly responsible for EGS and the anti-consumer and consumer manipulation practices that platform pushes. Never mind all that though, I'm sure you're happy getting "free" games you'll never play while jerking off to Chun Li flossing.
Not that anon but the irony of you posting an NPCJak in defense of fortnite is palpable.
are you being ironic ?
>Fortnite is bad
yes you worthless moron
>Tim Sweeney is now richer than Gabe lmfao,
nobody cares moron
>are we at the point the little shits grew up yet?
>Fortnite release dare: July 21, 2017
>6 years ago
This is the future we brought upon ourselves.
Epicbros... how do we shut these steamies up, I'm sick of the ridicule and abuse
We need another slam dunk like free GTA5... I'm thinking free Skyrim, are you with me Epicbros ?
Gonna be honest, if Tim didn't gave me Control for free i would never play it. I was actually surprised about how good it was.
That game was very poorly marketed.
How much money do you think it costs to take an existing play model and dressing it up in different clothes?
Then how much do you think Epic gets from reselling that skin for several years?
are they hiring
Steam pajeets on full damage control while Epichads keep on winning
>What went wrong?
Trying to force exclusivity on a platform where the only possible appeal is that it's open?
They killed Unreal and Unreal Tournament, the games that made them. Instead of taken some of the money they made from Fornite to finish a game for adults, they shit canned unreal tournament.
Now what happens when the kids move on to the next big thing? They will crawl back to the adults begging for forgiveness, We'll give them a big ol frick you and a foot in the ass for ever pissing off their foundation.
>Now what happens when the kids move on to the next big thing? They will crawl back to the adults begging for forgiveness
They already have, kind of. I doubt the 88/12 developer split they've been begging developers to take advantage of is targeted at kids.
Fortnite is unironically better than unreal.
kys ironically
>Epic Games Store is dead
how can be dead when it was never alive to begin with?
they need to give rocketleague back to steam
fricking chink Black folk
No Steam no buy, simple as. "Epic exclusive" means nothing to anyone because no one acknowledges it as such; it just means a game is releasing for real a little later, since it only truly releases when it comes out on Steam. Also he launched EGS during the decline of Fortnite's popularity and relevance instead of at the peak. Never really had a chance. I've never even played Fortnite, but I would at least try if if it was on Steam, lol. As it stands the game simply doesn't exist to me. No Steam no try, simple as.
have a nice day.
>No Steam no buy, simple as.
This but I include GOG and itch.io as well.
Live yourself. Epicjeets will eternally seethe if you do so.
>is a literal billionaire
>still eats shit like Chic Fil A and only hoards himself in one room
What do you do in your personal life with your billions anyway as an incel? You can go the Andrew Tate fake route and buy the most expensive trinkets because you're woman brained. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Timmy posts here.
Living the dream
Not every nerd is cut out to be a businessman. Tim Sweeney's a gigantic moron when it comes to leading a company.
>Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster
Where did you get that from? Unreal is more popular than ever and even companies that have used their own in-house engines for decades are switching to it.
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. Every UE5 game released so far has been a technical trainwreck.
>Every UE5 game released so far has been a technical trainwreck
There's only 1 game that is not Fortnite and you posted it.
Remnant 2 and the Layers of Fear remake also
There's a Layer of Fear remake released on UE5? That's news to me.
But i didn't see anyone complain about Remnant 2 optimization.
>But i didn't see anyone complain about Remnant 2 optimization
lol
Remnant 2, Layers of Fear Remake and Fort Solis.
And the upcoming Talos Principle 2, sadly, because those morons that Croteam hired developed the Serious Engine into the ground and the guy who originally created it left for fricking Roblox.
>Roblox
I thought he went to work on Stadia.
And then to Roblox after Stadia went breasts up.
And game devs will still use UE5 even if it's objectively shit like Unity.
You realize the same exact problems occurred during the first years if UE4, right?
4080 not looking so hot for it'sprice to performance
No matter how rich you are. You will be pressured to put shitty monkey skins in your game.
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/aya-and-naya-b7791e
Kek wtf
All good points but
>400+ free games
TWO MORE WEEKS FORTNITE DIE SOON! SIRS DO NEEDFUL STEAM EPIC IS BAD!
is on the decline
Engine 5 is a disaster
Where do you morons get this shit?
Timmy said Fortnite is declining.
>Fortnite is on the decline
>Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster
>Epic Games Store is dead
Was it real in your mind?
Tim Sweeney is now richer than Gabe lmfao,
Never let autism make business decisions. Musk will face the same fate
Unreal engine would've been so much better if they just released a proper library and had the editor as a completely separate program instead of trying to integrate everything like Unity does.
God I hate modern "software development".
But then half the game devs in the industry wouldn't be able to use it. It'd be too hard for them.
Pandering to people who don't enjoy working with computers was the single biggest mistake in computing.
dem computers are racist.jpg
Pretty sure ue5 is the best engine by far for many projects, but OK.
No Jazz Jackrabbit
UE5 is barely a year old and this homie expects top shelf AAA releases on it.
>Every Unreal Engine game has been a technical blunder
>EGS is using anti-consumer practises to get to the top with no indication they won't just frick everyone over if they got there
>China's economy is imploding and tencent are going to withdraw their funding
It's over for Epic.
>China's economy is imploding and tencent are going to withdraw their funding
Gabenbros...
Cooperating with local laws isn't the same as being owned by china you fricking moron. The Netherlands doesn't own Valve because they banned lootboxes there.
Name a single other company that is allowed to turn an entire Chinese into a big advertisement for their games?
Literally anyone with enough money you fricking moron.
Now address what I said you moronic tencent shill or I will accept your concession.
And also, nearly every single one of the Valve's audience are Chinks.
Well name a single other gaming company that has done it then? Only Valve is working close enough with CCP to do that kind of shit.
>can't refute my argument
Concession accepted.
What argument?
You can't even name a single other gaming company than Valve that is working so closely with the CCP.
You claim to hate Chinks but simp for the biggest dick suckers in existence.
Using your logic, Valve is owned by The Netherlands because they're cooperating with local laws.
You cannot refute this argument and so I accept your concession.
>You can't even name a single other gaming company than Valve that is working so closely with the CCP.
Steam got banned in China two years ago. Meanwhile you can easily access EGS in China.
Are you moronic?
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/holiday-special-did-steam-really-just-get-banned-in-china-
>You can't even name a single other gaming company than Valve that is working so closely with the CCP.
Epic, miHoYo, Netease, tencent, bytedance all work close withe the CCP than Valve.
Did you mean "western" gaming companies? Hmm, I can't imagine ANY western company courting the chinese market and compromising their products to appease and work with the CCP.
So show me one of them turning an entire big Chinese city into advertisment for their games?
Show me Epic doing anything remotely close to this, I'll wait.
>a company buying advertising space in another country means they're owned by that country
the absolute state of bugmen
Yeah anon, every company is totally allowed to turn the CCP cities in big advertisements unless they work closely with the CCP.
Still waiting
>a company buying advertising space in another country means they're owned by that country
the absolute state of bugmen
Still waiting
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Upvoted fellow Redditor, but I'm still waiting.
ohnononono
Still waiting
Yes, I'm still waiting for you to address all four arguments. You have no counter-argument for:
Concession accepted. EZ.
>tencent shill stopped posting after
makes you think
Here, have my gold redditor.
>it's not even real
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
this is the closest to what has actually happened, but it was in 2017, and again it was done by the Chinese company PerfectWorld, not Valve, and required complying with Chinese advertisment standards, no element of Valve working directly with the CCP. Don't know why I'm explaining this though because "still waiting" tencent-kun seems to have died already. Being mean to someone so indignantly wrong is fun tho.
Yes, I'm still waiting for you to address all four arguments. You have no counter-argument for:
Concession accepted. EZ.
kek
better shut down your VPN I'M GONNA SAY IT
Valve didn't turn an entire big Chinese city into adertisment for their games.
PerfectWorld turned an entiry big Chinese city into advertisment for a Valve games they distribute in China.
>uh... uh.. STILL WAITING!
ok moron
Realise arguing with more than one anon may be taxing for you, do you have brain worms? Valve is happy to take money from China, China is happy to take money from Valve. That does not mean that China owns Valve, it means that Valve does business in the Chinese marketplace.
Remember the Chinese steel
morono still doesn't know what a minority share means.
China owns 0% of Valve
China owns 40% of Epic
Concession accepted.
You do realise Valve is a private company, right anon? I mean, it's easy to forget given how much tencent, embracer and microsoft try to frick everything, but what you just posted is actually idiotic.
>korean league of legends players are american now because they bought advertising space on a wall in a city
Are chinks really this stupid?
That's five!
Five counter-arguments you're afraid to respond to.
ha. ha. ha.
>epic shills stop responding when you post pooh images
really makes you think
>Unreal Engine 5 is a disaster
How?
Why?
It's going to remain as the king of AA games, with maybe one or two AAA and some irrelavnt asset flip indies using it.
But like UE4 it's going to be mostly used for AA.
I really hope he chokes on his fricking remote. He is as cancerous as EA.
I got something imported from china. That makes me chinese now ;_;
Frick tencent, frick Red China, and frick any traitor who sells out to them
every game on epic is free who said they was paying
there's a couple of people who make donations to tim anon
Epic removing Unreal Tournament was the final nail in the coffin. I don't care if you support them at all but to remove the game that put you on the map for sale shows they are beyond saving
Imagine if Valve delisted half life