I've noticed there's almost always some discussion about fifth gen consoles here, but lately less conversation about the fourth gen and its games. What are your favorite fourth gen games and consoles/add-ons? Do you have any fond memories of them growing up? Which ones have you played recently?
I just played a little bit of Bio-Hazard Battle on Genesis (somebody recommended here) and it's surprisingly fun, more forgiving than a lot of other shmups.
You'll have far more luck posting this in /vr/.
Are you quite alright?
I mean, he's not wrong.
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CD-i notwithstanding, you can't go wrong with any of the 4th gen consoles (regardless of what some of the morons on this board say). I grew up with the Super Nintendo, so that's the one I have a preference for. Been playing FFV, F-zero and Troddlers. Planning on playing the Mystery Dungeon games afterwards.
luv me genesis run n gun games
16-bit is pretty much agreed to be good and a high point at the time. There's not much disagreement and so not much to discuss. Plus, people who like making those "best of" lists tend to start with the NES, which ends up with endless discussion and so never moves forwards.
I've had some fun with Bio-Hazard Battle, but haven't played too much of it. I only had Raiden Trad (hard game) and Vapor Trail for shmups on Genesis. I've only been playing Bio-Hazard Battle through Steam. Vapor Trail was pretty good and not too difficult, if you wanted another Genesis shmup.
Although the only games of this generation that I've played recently was a playthrough of Mega Man X.
nta; I used to hate when my father would recount things in his life we've already discussed until I finally understood he simply enjoys talking about them. I hope anons aren't so bitter they refuse to have a discussion about things they enjoy simply because they feel they're wasting time... Time enjoyed is never wasted.
I'll have to give those reccs a shot, thanks for the tip.
There's something about the look and feel of the TG16/PC Engine that I just love. So many fun games but I do feel it has the smallest library without counting all the unplayable Japanese stuff.
As a kid I had a Genesis and that's probably my favorite console overall. Loved playing games like Phantasy Star 2, Shining Force 2, Shadowrun for hours. I remember I picked it over SNES for xmas one year because my friend had one and he let me play all the rpgs and adventure games I wanted on it. I got SF2 Turbo and a 6 button controller with it. That was the best xmas ever.
Eventually got SNES when I was a little older. I still kick myself for selling it and all of my games which would be worth a shit ton of cash right now.
I've been playing a lot of super nintendo lately but I keep feeling like the games aren't as good as I remember and not as good as people hype them up online.
You're not the only one. A great many retro games enthusiasts are in agreement that the SNES has really aged poorly compared to the other systems available at the time. Younger people who are just getting into retro games will often not even bother with the SNES these days. The Mega Drive, PC Engine, Neo Geo, and X68000 all offer much higher quality experiences, and the Amiga offers a massive library of "interesting" and weird titles, which covers all the bases when combined.
>if you poll someone on their top 5 snes games, you're usually going to get the same answers despite how big the library is
That's because the drop in quality once you move past the most popular dozen or so titles is immense. There's basically nothing else worth playing.
>That's because the drop in quality once you move past the most popular dozen or so titles is immense. There's basically nothing else worth playing.
I've heard this for N64 before, but never for SNES. There's so much to choose from between Nintendo games, Capcom games, Namco, Square, Konami etc. and that's without even getting into some of the really obscure stuff. I still want to try out the Go! Go! Ackman games myself, among so many others
>There's basically nothing else worth playing.
Speaking as someone who can’t stand tendies, this isn’t true about the SNES at all. Its library is deep, especially considering Japan-only titles.
I get that you’re larping as auster, and I actually agree with this sentiment but you have to be less obvious when you’re trolling that’s how you hit the bump limit effectively, here’s a (you) for your troubles
snes has the cream of the crop but its sorely lacking in arcade ports. if you poll someone on their top 5 snes games, you're usually going to get the same answers despite how big the library is
i find pc engine has the most "fun" games if not necessarily the best games
SNES is actually how I discovered the Parodius series, there's definitely tons of hidden gems on it, especially on the Super Famicom side. I agree about PCE as well, the moment I discovered PCE CD it blew my mind. So many great CD titles long before the 32-bit era.
>if you poll someone on their top 5 snes games, you're usually going to get the same answers
This how tendies work, unfortunately. They stay in their little play area
pc engine is 3.5 gen
sega Dreamcast is 5.5 gen
I disagree, the Dreamcast is closer to a 5.8 gen system
Dreamcast is 5.8 gen
PS2 is a true 6.0 gen
Gamecube would be 6.2 gen
XBOX is then 6.4 gen
So does that make Saturn a 4.8 gen console, PSX a 5.0 gen console and N64 a 5.2 gen console?
>I've noticed there's almost always some discussion about fifth gen consoles here, but lately less conversation about the fourth gen and its games.
Well, the rule change forced a generational change on this board, for better or for worse (for worse).
4th gen is the golden age of home video games.
Growing up as a Segatendo kid is probably the best possible childhood any kid could've had in the history of humanity. Not even exaggerating.
Looking at the current catalog I'm starting to think you are right. Besides this thread there is the single Genesis thread full of people bashing the add-ons, everything else is just fifth and sixth gen discussion. Sad times
Hopefully there is some way to breathe new life into fourth gen discussion on /vr/. I hate to see it disappear completely, it is still probably my favorite time period too, both the games I grew up with and ones I'm discovering for the first time. Nintendo and SEGA really brought their A game in the late 80's/early 90's
the Zoomers just slide the board
make the threads you want to see it's not that hard
the jannies are not gonna change the rules
complaining about it results in a ban
kekked
remove the cdi from this anon even 3do was more popular/common
I tried making a "30th anniversary of 1994" thread the other day. I listed a ton of reasons as to why the year was so great...and it got almost zero traction. It's over for us 40 year old boomers.
Lol I feel you. People say to just make high quality threads yourselves but they'll die if they aren't bait threads/template threads.
>Growing up as a Segatendo kid is probably the best possible childhood any kid could've had in the history of humanity. Not even exaggerating.
Based. There'll never be that level of competition again, with both companies giving their all and pumping good games left and right, with the consumer benefiting from all of this. Today's fake competition doesn't even come close, what's even the difference between a PS5 and a Series X?
I was a Nintendo kid. I remember receiving the making of Donkey Kong Country tape in the mail from Nintendo watching it with my Sega fanboy neighbor. He was in shock at the quality of the graphics. I remember during the ending sizzle reel it reminded viewers that DKC was "NOT ON SEGA." I gave my friend a shit eating grin - we both knew the 16-bit war was over at that point. I don't think I've ever felt that level of smug satisfaction again in my life.
I understand, though I never saw videogames as a conflict. If you had money for only one console (that was my and many other people's case), then you picked the one you liked the most (or the one your parents gave you, lol). However, and I note this as important, every child I knew dreamed of having all the consoles available, even if just out of curiosity. We all liked games, so why not get the best from every world? Today, you can emulate everything, and people still lose time console warring. What a waste.
Yeah I mean don't get me wrong I liked Sega games and my friend would play Nintendo games - it was just mostly petty tribalism, like if we were fans of rival sports teams or something. Gave us something to debate and argue over.
Yeah /vr/ is just Ganker now with the same trolling tactics and posting mannerisms that make that place shit. This place used to have its own unique culture but now it's a carbon copy of Ganker, which is the same as the rest of the site, which is the same as twitter. Nu-internet is so boring.
Post 16-bit kino
I'm a sega gay and i love the genesis and sega CD. Been working my way through the Lunar games
The fanbase of early 90s generation of games are dying out, especially SNES & Genesis era. Like, who really gives a crap about another Chrono Trigger thread, or complaining about DKC3's crappy premise & rehash approach compared to the first two. We've all played these games on emulator (and some back in the legit 90s on the actual consoles) to exhaustion. 4th gen fatigue doesn't describe it....it's more like aging out of the SNES/Genesis mindstate permanently.
>The fanbase of early 90s generation of games are dying out
No, that's just the SNES, as you examplify here:
>Like, who really gives a crap about another Chrono Trigger thread, or complaining about DKC3's crappy premise & rehash approach
It really speaks to the lack of library depth that the SNES suffers when there are 1700 games and yet you're falling back to Chrono Trigger and Donkey Kong again. This is the natural consequence of a system only having a handful of noteworthy games, the people will eventually grow bored and move on to something else. Conversely, the love for other 16-bit systems in that era is only increasing, see for example the utterly massive Mega Drive homebrew scene, the Amiga is also starting to see a great many new homebrew developments, keeping these systems alive and loved in the hearts and minds of retro games enthusiasts.
>This is the natural consequence of a system only having a handful of noteworthy games
No, this is the natural consequence of people never diving deeper into a system's library than the absolute most popular and well-known games that are constantly posted and YouTubed about.
Same reason most threads here are about 3-5 different series.
There's a very good reason people only post or YouTube about 10 SNES games. Nobody is spending any serious time with shit like Prehistorik Man or Spanky's Quest.
No, it's because the most popular games are what get views and engagement.
Prehistoric Man is a good platformer
PC Engine, Mega Drive and the Super Nintendo are the classic retro gaming systems for me.
I'm playing through Dragon Quest 6 at the moment. I've just unlocked the job system. The interplay between the two worlds is done better than any other RPG that I've played.
gunstar heroes
shinobi iii
mortal kombat
25 replies and nobody has asked why the CD-i was included in that image.
The PC Engine Super CD-ROM2 and Sega CD were more important CD-based consoles than the CD-i
Should have been the NEO GEO
My favorite game? Super Metroid, the Greatest Of All Time
Fond memories? Playing Super Metroid, what a masterpiece
Played recently? Why, Super Metroid on my SNES, of course!
Worthwhile SNES games that aren't constantly memed:
Goemon (series)
Soul Blazer (series)
Romancing SaGa (series)
Magic Sword
Phalanx (the cover is irrelevant)
Kunio-tachi no Banka
Uncharted Waters (series)
Final Fight (series)
Pocky & Rocky (series)
Kendo Rage
Umihara Kawase
Harvest Moon
Lufia (series)
Secret of Mana (series)
Super R-Type & R-Type III
Wild Guns
Star Ocean
Tales of Phantasia
Front Mission (series)
Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre
Parodius (series)
Clock Tower
Blackthorne
Der Langrisser
Shadowrun
Hagane
Shin Megami Tensei (series)
Ninjawarriors
Skyblazer
Flashback
This perfectly highlights the issue with the SNES extended library.
>Magic Sword, Final Fight, Uncharted Waters, Flashback, Parodius, Phalanx
These are all terrible ports of games that are better enjoyed elsewhere.
>Romancing Saga, Pocky and Rocky, Umihara Kawase, Harvest Moon, Mana series, Wild Guns, Star Ocean, Tales, Front Mission, Ninja Warriors, Ogre Battle, Shin Megami Tensei
These are all games with newer versions that blow the SNES versions out. Nobody is playing these on SNES any more, and nobody has any reason to ever go back to the SNES versions of these again.
The problem is, for everything the SNES was trying to do with action games, the Mega Drive was doing it better, and for everything the SNES was trying to do with story driven games, the PlayStation was doing it better. So, all you are left with is this awkward middle ground where the SNES is not particularly good at anything, leaving every body wanting.
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>parodius
>terrible port
it looks great, sounds great, and has 2 extra stages over the arcade version
parodius on pc engine has an excellent caravan mode and the new intro and gameover screen are cute but the rest of the game pales in comparison to the snes port in all aspects, even the controls (no button for bell powerup)
This is an excellent list
Many of those are exclusives anon. Sequels are not the same as newer versions. You can't just replace Secret of Mana with Legend of Mana, it doesn't really work that way. As for the ports, they might not be perfect, but Parodius for instance was the best console port you could get at the time of its release in 1992, rivaled only maybe by the TurboGrafx version, which was still technically 8-bit.
It's a great series. The TurboGrafx version of Fantastic Night Dreams is one of my top three games on the console, also my favorite version for the arranged soundtrack.
Good list.
It's amazing that Cotton managed to have different games all across so many systems during this gen.
>PC-Engine got FND, a port of the arcade game with a new, stellar OST
>SNES got 100%, a very lukewarm sequel but not bad
>Mega Drive got Panorama, which had amazing sprite scaling effects for the console it was on and was all around an amazing rail shooter during the end of the system's life
It's unfortunate only FND got an over seas release.
There were like daily sonic / megadrive threads on here like 6 months ago
What is the bottom-right one, Phillips CDi ?
4th gen is my favorite by a country mile. The SNES/Genesis war is one of the greatest narratives in gaming.
It's the last time gaming feels very "retro" to me. 1994 was the last year that sprite based 2D games were dominant, though there was LOTS of experimentation going on, which is another reason the era is so interesting. There were like a dozen viable gaming consoles at the time.
Games weren't really worth playing before the 5th generation. They were to simple to have engaging or complex mechanics and overall they aged poorly.
>Super Mario World and Sonic the Hedgehog aren't worth playing
Is that why they keep remaking them
The first mario worth playing was a 5th gen game.
Best 4th gen games ever combined ranking
>1. Alien Soldier (Mega Drive, 1995)
>2. SMW2: Yoshi's Island (SNES, 1995)
>3. Doom II (PC, 1994)
>5. Donkey Kong Country (SNES, 1994)
>5. Dragon Quest V (SNES, 1992)
>6. Castlevania: Rondo of Blood (PCE-CD, 1993)
>7. Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Mega Drive, 1994)
>2. SMW2: Yoshi's Island (SNES, 1995)
This is actually in my top 3. Contrarians on here will knock it about the crying, but if you have even basic skill at platform games, you will avoid getting hit, and enjoy the S-tier level design.
>Contrarians on here will knock it about the crying
If you are annoyed by the crying in Yoshi's Island, then you are not mentally fit to have children.
There's a pretty big difference between the sound of your own child crying out and a screechy soundbite from a snes.
yea children are way worse
and at least babby mario stfus if you git gud
Where were they ranked and by who?
>Where were they ranked
my mind
>and by who?
me
cry
>including PC in a console generation ranking
Why include anything besides Snes and Genesis? Absolutely nobody played anything other than those two.
Castlevania: Rondo of Blood
The exception that confirms the rule
The huge amount of systems in this era is kind of part of it's appeal
t. westoid
TurboGrafx-16 was still a major player in the fourth generation, even if it wasn't super popular. CD-I not so much
That's right, and the consoles are only the tip of the iceberg. You also had the add-ons, handhelds, computers like Sharp X68K and Amiga. It's a lot more than people realize at a glance
I would say they are both good for different reasons. Genesis has lots of great action games, shmups, and beat 'em ups. SNES has tons of great puzzlers, action adventure, and RPG's. Obviously there is some overlap in both areas, though I find this is where they each excel the most
I still can't put my finger exactly on why I liked the Genesis more than the SNES. I had both and both had games I loved. But over time I accumulated around five times as many Genesis games and these days it's the one I go back to by far the most.
It's because the Mega Drive has a better library of games, both in terms of general quality, and in terms of offering more interesting and more overall impressive titles. SNES titles are often very "cookie cutter" and almost all suffer from the same flaws of serious slowdowns, input lags, muted colours, terrible physics, and other common problems. There's nothing on the SNES even in the same league of ambition as games like Comix Zone, or Panorama Cotton, The Adventures of Batman and Robin, Thunder Force IV, Alien Soldier, Red Zone, The Lost World: Jurassic Park, and so on, all running on stock hardware, no cheating expansion chips, and all well beyond anything you ever saw on the SNES.
>cheating
There it is boys
>I would say they are both good for different reasons. Genesis has lots of great action games, shmups, and beat 'em ups. SNES has tons of great puzzlers, action adventure, and RPG's. Obviously there is some overlap in both areas, though I find this is where they each excel the most
Yeah thinking about it more, many of my favorite games on snes were rpgs and adventure games like Final Fantasy, Illusion of Gaia, Super Metroid, Secret of Mana etc which I loved but generally only played once. The Metal Warriors, Super Ghouls n Ghosts, Cybernator, the Star Wars games and the like were and are great, but Genesis has more games that scratch those itches and that I tend to keep going back to.
>no cheating expansion chips
sega cd and 32x were both expanded hardware, not a good argument
>Star Fox
>Chrobo Trigger
>Yoshis Island
>Rendering Ranger
>Donkey Ling Country
>Terranigma
1-800-COME-ON
This stuff is older than atari was when we grew up so it's considered even beyond retro (i.e. unplayable). You need a basic level of graphics to support a full gaming experience that consoles couldn't do with low resolutions.
The only way you could possibly come to holding these beliefs is if you exclusively or mostly played SNES. Play some other 16-bit consoles, computers, or arcade games, and you'll see that this is wrong.
but SNES is the best console of the 4th gen and also one of the best consoles of all time, so if the SNES wasn't as good as the 5th gen none of them are
t. only played SNES
early 5th gen 2D games are 10000x better than 4th gen 2D game. 2D was perfected in the 5th gen but sadly 3D slop replaced it from 1998 onwards.
Not really. Do you care to give some examples of quality 5th gen 2D games that you believe eclipse the 4th gen? There are good 2D games from that time, but some of console games showed little improvement or were a step backwards.
SOTN, Alundra, Xeno Gears, SFIII, and if you count PC games from that era there's Fallout 1 and 2.
He said eclipe, not just a shinier 16 bit game.
I like Alundra and SotN, but neither does anything that hasn't been seen before on the Genesis or SNES.
Reality is that the 4th gen was already so good at 2D games that the 5th gen didn't add anything new to the table 99% of the time. Just a few more colors and smoother animations, gameplay was the same.
>SOTN, Alundra, Xeno Gears, SFIII
Yeah, not better than the best 2D of 4th gen gamewise. Maybe graphically, but that's all it has over it.
SNES was for casuals.
>remove the cdi from this anon even 3do was more popular/common
This. The CD-i was almost non existent among kids and no one considered it competition for SEGA, Nintendo or NEC. Phillips advertised it as an infortainment type of thing. Also they wanted $800 at launch.
I wonder if they sold any CD-i systems simply based on the fact there were a few games with Nintendo characters.
Best generation ever. Throw Neo Geo on there while you're at it.
Yes. I had the SNES growing up. Have quite the collection at over 200 games. I picked up all the mini consoles and have hacked them all hit the tg-16.
Been playing games I missed out on the genesis and tg-16. SNES is still waaaaay better than both but they still have some unique good games not found on the SNES. Grenada and Musha for example or Rondo.
You might like SEGA CD and TurboGrafx-CD. SNES was my favorite console overall for a long time before I got into them. They are basically like Genesis/TG-16 on steroids
Yeah I have those games on the minis.
I can’t get 32x games to work though. I’m sad because I want Kolibri on it so bad.
>someone else here mentions Granada for once.
That game is so good, it's a shame so few ever seem to have played it.
It’s just pure arcade fun. It’s a time capsule of the late 80s and early 90s. I want to go back.
pc engine has a similar game called metal stoker which is pretty cool, very hard though
I’ll have to check that out.
this ost slaps
The CD-i isn't a game console.
I had a Genesis and SNES as a kid. Sega > Nintendo. Nintendo games were just casual shit like RPGs, Sega games were high speed action and had better OSTs.
Absolutely love this era, had a Mega Drive growing up and still revisit the games while discovering a lot of new games I was too young to know about or appreciate.
I still have a huge list of just Mega Drive games I want to play, let alone the SNES. Never played SNES growing up, as my friends either had NES, Master System or also had Mega Drives until the next gen.
I've only played a handful of SNES games but the system seems awesome too. Super Metroid, Super Castlevania IV and Donkey Kong Country are the ones that come to mind of the few I've played.
Been moving house recently, but when I get my setup all sorted again I'm definitely going to sit down with some games from this era.
It got pushed out after mods went full moron allowing sixth gen.
bump
pc engine thread died again after only 38 posts from the save 6 people
I'm trying Saint Sword for the Mega Drive. A little janky, but fun game. Has the same Ghouls 'n Ghosts ending: you need to beat the game twice, though the first run is notable easy.
I really don't like wandering around levels in this.
Well, yeah, I won't defend the game, it's no masterpiece. I like it, but also concede that wandering around a stage with little graphical variation and lots of weak enemies swarming over you might be annoying. On the other hand, the game never bites more than it can chew, so you don't feel uncomfortable.
I need to try more Mega CD games.
It sounds silly, but playing some recently actually had me surprised by the quality and the concept of FMV/voice acting on Mega Drive. I never got to experience one growing up, so anything CD based pre Saturn/PS1 seems wild.
Shining Force CD in particular was excellent.
If you like platformers, The Terminator is excellent. Starblade is also a fantastic showcase of the system's FMV capabilities (feels more like an early PS1 game). Also recommend trying the shmups at some point, that's how I first started getting into the library (aside from Sonic CD)
Thanks bro, I think I already put Terminator onto my flash card, I'll give it a shot.
I haven't played many shmups, but I had a brief go of the Robo Aleste game which looks really slick graphically.
Did someone make this thread just to shit on SNES. It's kind of weird reading some of these posts.
The Genesis/Mega Drive seems to be preferred to the SNES on /vr/, but as someone who grew up with a Sega, I find the SNES's library better.
N64 is the one that shat the bed, imo. But Nintendo wins this gen hands down.
A lot of views on /vr are misaligned with what really happened back then.
I was browsing through some old magazines (that didnt focus on just one brand) the other day and that had some insights
- Reviewers still enjoyed 2D games on 5th gen, e.g. SotN and Shinobi Saturn got high praise.
- The Saturn and Playstation were seen as very similar systems in the beginning (Note that in Europe the Saturn launch wasn't botched) and that both looked great. Downside of Saturn was that it was quite a bit more expensive though.
- Chrono Trigger is not the best SNES game ever
- Croc for PS1 was very well received
- The N64 was seen as an amazing machine at launch, and although the controller was weird, its ergonomics were just fine.
Also some weird shit like
- F-Zero X got a poor review because it didnt have weapons like wipeout (Wipeout64 got a great score later)
- Phantasy Star 4 got a shit review summerized as "Yet another childish story shit RPG"
If we are talking just the consoles I prefer SNES, but when you throw in the CD add-ons they really turn the Genesis and the TG-16 into powerhouse consoles. A CD add-on for SNES would've been phenomenal, but even without it it's still a great console.
>Did someone make this thread just to shit on SNES
lol
This happens here all the time. I'm pretty used to it. Just ignore those children and talk about all the (great) consoles of the 4th gen, Super Nintendo included, of course.
How is it a thread shitting on the SNES??
No, not the thread per-se, just a handful of posters (not OP) that always hijack threads to trash talk the Super Nintendo out of nowhere. No big deal, let's just keep talking about the consoles and games.
Okay but how is that different from posters who do the exact same thing towards the Genesis? Not saying either is good but surely you don't only see it going one way.
It goes all ways really, there are people shitting on the snes, genesis, saturn, ps1, n64, and everything else.
Just part of this board. Best to ignore it as it adds nothing of value
Exactly.
It was more me asking if he really only noticed it in the context of that one console. I think picking sides in any of this os ridiculous, every system has games worth playing and games worth ignoring.
You just ignore them too. Or did you think you had to pick a side? The only winning choice is picking no side and play all games. Why wouldn't you do that?
>The only winning choice is to not have any opinions or ever express that you don't like something
NTA, but this is a low-T opinion. I have played plenty of SNES and I don't like it, and there is no reason for me not to share my opinion and find like-minded people. SNES fans have spent decades shitting on the Mega Drive, and now, people are discovering en masse that the Mega Drive is more powerful and has a library that has aged far better, not to mention a constant stream of awesome new homebrews, so, I'm afraid that turnabout is fair play.
It's not about "not having an opinion", learn interpretation. It's the exact opposite: not letting your judgement be obscured because you've autistically picked a side from an 30-year ago event with no current relevance.
Not him and I definitely prefer Genesis see
but if you genuinely can't find anything on the SNES you think are fun you don't sound like someone who actually likes video games.
>you don't sound like someone who actually likes video games
It's always these grandiose proclamations from SNES fans. I like the Mega Drive, the PC Engine, the Neo Geo, the X68000, 16-bit arcade games, and Amiga strategy and adventure games. The SNES is slow, boring, lifeless. JRPG's are better on the PC Engine CD and Mega CD, and the PlayStation's JRPG library runs circles around the SNES. The SNES couldn't even handle action games. So, no, for everything I have played on SNES, there is a far better alternative elsewhere. It's precisely BECAUSE I like video games and not just Nintendo IP's that I don't care for the SNES.
>It's always these grandiose proclamations from SNES fans.
I'm not a SNES fan though, as I pointed out. Sega Genesis is probably my favorite console of all time. SNES wouldn't even be in my top 5, but to say you literally dislike every single SNES game out there... I just shake my head.
>I like every system except the SNES
Yeah, I think you hold no grudges at all.
I'm not really used to /vr/ since I come here one in a blue moon. I thought it would be chill.
If you look at the first few posts it's only one or two anons doing this, I even mentioned several lesser known SNES/Super Famicom titles to remind people SNES is not like N64. Really I blame lack of knowledge about the platform, there's a lot more than just Mario and DKC on it. I still think both SEGA and Nintendo did better in fourth gen than they did in fifth gen
You had 30 years of unquestioned SNES dick riding, you'll live if a couple anons have a distaste for it.
Ironic since there are several threads up in the catalog right just to shit on Sega consoles and games.
Is the Panasonic even Gen 4?
Not Panasonic, Phillips CD-I
The 3DO did however release before the 32X, it was more like the SEGA CD's rival despite being lumped into fifth gen most of the time
No, it is a 5th gen console. Pictured in the OP is the Phillips CD-i, which is not a video game console.
>which is not a video game console.
What would you call it then?
The intent of the "multi-media machine" was essentially a budget PC. Multi-media was a big buzzword back at the time, essentially meaning that with the unlimited space of the CD medium you could do all sorts of things, such as, well, look at jpegs or really grainy videos.
I get what you're saying but a PC-like device you hook up to a tv to play games and watch media on is what's referred to as a console. It's an unusual one, but it's clearly more of a console than a PC or a regular CD player.