I miss when bosses were difficult not because they had a gorillion health and 30 phases packed into one healthbar but because the whole fight from start to finish without any changes was difficult in of itself.
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>ER
>difficult
What do you mean phone poster?
He means he played the game like you were meant to, without a guide.
Who the frick plays with a guide on their first playthrough? By endgame your inventory should be full of weapons, summons, armor and talismans no matter what. You're only required to rub two brain cells together in order to figure out how to deal some damage, it shouldn't be hard.
>Who the frick plays with a guide on their first playthrough
a lot of people that shill the game
>Who the frick plays with a guide on their first playthrough?
Ranni's ending might be one of the easiest quests in the soulsborne series. I got it without even trying. The only thinking required is to figure out where the ring could be, and the locked chest in her mother's chambers is not 90s adventure game to say the least
haha wow
that's the souls fanbase alright
Literally everyone
Dark souls trannies are notorious for pretending they don’t use guides
Who the frick plays with a guide? for what purpose game is as straight forward as it gets and NPC's tell you what to do and were to go, hell the game even locks you out until you get spoon feed by Melina what to do next.
I played the game without a guide is beat everything I wanted to
seeing as how the first playthrough was a 120 hour slog, its dumb NOT to use a guide so you don't miss anything then you can drop it without putting in another 120 hours.
That’s pretty much impossible in any souls game which is why they suck. I love Heckin giant lava bosses that require you to kill his finger through the mountain or it’s impossible. I love Capra demon that literally impossible unless you run up on the ledge. I love getting cursed and not being able to play the game unless you get an obscure item that wastes your time.
I get that a lot of the shit is obscure in these games, but the things you listed are incredibly simple to figure out.
>I love Heckin giant lava bosses that require you to kill his finger through the mountain or it’s impossible.
Ceaseless Discharge is perfectly manageable without any exploits, you literally just dodge his finger and attack for 3 seconds.
>I love Capra demon that literally impossible unless you run up on the ledge.
All you need to do is run up the staircase (the focal point of his arena mind you) to kill the dogs and then deal with him
>I love getting cursed and not being able to play the game unless you get an obscure item that wastes your time.
The description of the Purging Stone clearly states
>Reduces curse build-up and breaks curse.
And they're even sold by 2 of the early game merchants
Every game is easy amiright fellow zoomers? Reminder, you didn't beat the game.
Obsessed.
Elden Ring is difficult if you don't use cheese methods.
Yep, that's the thread
just cast rotten breath on everything
>use ashes of war to stagger them.
Yeah I can use flame of the redmanes to stunlock maliketh, that doesn't make it fun. Bosses In Elden Ring are just sloppy as frick compared to the rest of the series.
So don't use flame of the redmanes wtf kind of critique is this?
>don't use the best tool for killing the boss. Purposefully gimp yourself to make the game fun. Except Elden Ring endgame bosses are tuned for Sekiro speed. They're just straight up not fun to fight no matter which way you do it. Cheesing shit isn't fun but chasing after bosses while they backflip to the other side of the arena and start doing 15 move combos isn't fun either. No matter which way you do it it's either boring or tedious.
yes, elden ring is definitely the first ever from game where you can cheese every boss
just admit you're shit already
>yes, elden ring is definitely the first ever from game where you can cheese every boss
I never said that. But in Elden Ring the bosses often simply aren't fun to fight whether you cheese them or not. Especially the lategame ones. If you do them without cheesing they're often just tedious and frustrating and if you cheese them then they're boring.
i like ER but his point remains valid no matter how you try to tunnel vision it. cheesing staggers with some broken tool isn't engaging, and that mentality of blasting enemies out of their infinite combo strings is basically the core of how the copypasta insists that ER gameplay is better. i would also disagree.
>his point remains valid
not when he tries to imply elden ring is any different when it comes to cheesing bosses
>flame of the redmanes
I love this ash so much, I’m super lazy so it’s pretty much easy mode for me in my second play thur.
Oh hey, I was the OP of that thread
>the whole fight from start to finish without any changes was difficult in of itself.
when?
the bosses are fine but they deal waaay too much damage imo
this, i don't care about their health but their damage was insane
i ended up beating most late game bosses without getting hit because i was getting 1shotted
I have a video of me hit trading ng+ malenia at SL 170 with like 8 estus flasks left after phase 1. The game gives you enough defensive options to stack for survivability, you just need to use them. Grug build is easy mode in Elden Ring.
literally just use the defense talismans
giving up 2 talisman slots just to not die sounds like a pretty shitty deal m8
defense talismans are the best talismans you can get, not a single talisman tops them unless you're a no hit god
Why? Not dying is more important than doing more damage
it's so easy to spot viglets
>pc
lol
lmao even
>level up to 400
>"lol why is everyone saying the game is hard"
I miss when From bosses were designed primarily to be interesting and memorable, not LE DIFFICULTY PREPARE TO DIE XD meme
i liked when you had to fight stuff between the checkpoint and the boss. but nu-from wants the checkpoint right next to the boss so you can fight it 100 times to learn their gay moveset
Bad take, running 5 minutes to skip past enemies is not good game design.
ER main bosses are very memorable
None of the ER bosses are spongy
fire giant is but he's also poorly designed and piss easy
Fire Giant isn't spongy he just has location specific weak points that if you don't hit you deal much less damage.
I miss when Ganker would bully shitters, not be the shitters
you are a Black personhomosexual who hopped on the bandwagon at prepare to die edition or later
Go away snoy
I'm not even a big "git gud" tryhard, but for christ's sake this game really hurt some people's feelings.
kind of like how fromsoft getting criticized hurts your feelings
>implying these scrubs are the old anons
lern2play
>Tough, but fair
whats wrong here?
Damn that webm is really fricking old.
Game would randomly freeze and stutters when it first came out, most performance issues have been patched since.
>Successfully walked out of attacks
>Decided to run and heal while the boss was completely free, like a b***h
>Punished
the DS3gay was right
Elden Ring truly is the ultimate shitter filter
the fire giant, maliketh, godfrey, radagon, and godskin duo. because they 1 or 2 shot you regardless of your vitality level
Liar ahead
They don't except maybe Maliketh which is a glass cannon
Actually after 1.07 Maliketh is in dire need of a poise buff, maybe an HP buff too
maliketh always needed more health, but what did 1.07 do?
The poise damage buff makes it extremely easy to stagger Maliketh with some combinations of gears/ashes now
>Smokes too much deathweed
>Ends up with no health
Serves him right, he's a literal meth addict
Maliketh and Rennala are the only well-designed bosses in the pitifully small pool of unique bosses. Actually Radagon too, it's just that his fight is followed up by the immensely shitty Elden Beast. The balance between Maliketh's aggression and having pretty fair attacks overall, and his smaller health pool, is perfect. If anything he could use a small buff.
Learn to play issue
Maliketh needs a buff
The rest are all fine
>But muh 1 shot
"No"
Are you arguing with yourself? I didn't even elaborate, FromSoft bootlicker. The fact is, Elden Ring has some of the worst bosses in their history, and the fewest completely unique bosses of all the Souls games. They're boring, uninspired, copypasted, and just plain bad in some cases.
>the fewest completely unique bosses of all the Souls games
this is blatantly false, why do you feel the need to lie?
moron
I fricking love the Maliketh fight, it forces you to be aggressive as hell
>getting one or two shot buy god skin duo
Huh?
you're right. the boss is great
Worse boss in the game
soreseal + vig + skill issue
anime trash
>*anime kino
FTFY
>struggling with misbegotten warrior
these are the people complaining elden ring is "too hard"
>Virgin no hit speedrunner light roll gay
VS
>Chad trading warcry build elden LORD
Holy based
is that the Dragonslayer Greataxe? lmao that's so fricking lazy
no, that's based.
in a giant game that functions 90% the same as their previous games they should be reusing all that they can.
Similar design, different model.
>lmao that's so fricking lazy
FROM has always been reusing and or referencing shit since the PS1 days.
>Why didn't they remake an entire moveset slightly different from the one we already have
yeah that fight is unfair for that "boss" but this loser manages to fricking die to it
why has the playerbase of the rpg games become worse over the years?
How bad do you have to be to fail to this boss even once?
Some of the bosses are way too spastic and the healing input reading is annoying, but this is not it.
How the fun is anyone this bad? You can easily stun lock him and if you’re super bad use a summons. First play thur I did but second I easily made him my b***h.
not anymore, it's not. I have no problem admitting that. elden ring has even more bullshit than dark souls 2. still fun though.
>game's bad because i'm shit at it
god i hate nu Ganker
>Poorly spaces and times chug
>Rightfully gets punished for it
What's the problem?
If running to the other end of the arena is poorly spaced what the frick is good spacing?
He ran a few meters away and drank in the middle of an attack designed to close gaps. He was asking to get hit. Clearly you are too moronic to see that.
more than a few meters away before an attack designed to close gaps.
>defends bad spacing
>can't tell distance
pottery
>running 50 feet away is bad spacing
>timing your estus during the boss's recovery instantly triggers an attack where he skates all the way across ground to "punish"
Great fricking game
Barbaric Roar isn't a recovery. The recovery animation had finished before he stopped running. The attack that hit him wouldn't have hit him had he spaced it better. The game didn't break any established rules. Dude simply had bad timing and spacing. Arguing otherwise just makes you a low IQ Black person.
running 50 feet away is not bad spacing. you're too far gone and completely lost it.
>He was still in attacking range. How is that bad spacing.
You do realize how moronic you sound right? Would it be better if the game placed a cone showing the attack range like world of warcraft?
>still in attacking range
Yeah it sure is cool how bosses have chug punish attacks that span the entire boss arena this souls edition
>A few meters
>Entire arena
homie you need glasses.
>>A few meters
it's pretty much a basic enemy by the end of the game, so that'd be like a black knight sliding 50 feet just to bonk you for sipping
If the boss is sliding across the arena the attack range is too high
Boss jumped, landed, and swung. He never slid across the arena. You Black folk are just making shit up now.
he's ice skating it looks so bad
>Doubling down on shit that never happened.
I'm done. I'm dealing with low IQ Black person cattle here.
at least if they're going to try and give bosses sip punishes give them animations to match them shooting across the arena
you can clearly see the boss moving without animating fast enough "sliding"
Had he chugged during the recovery he wouldn't have gotten hit. He drank after the boss was up and attacking.
I'm convinced that most of the people shitting on ER here couldn't cope with the difficulty so they launched a smear campaign because they got their feelings hurt.
everyone beat it already. you're not special
I've only played until lyandell grassfields and then dropped
Yes same thing when DS2 came out.
Its also the reason most people like DS1, its the one they can actually beat.
but most people like ds3
You From peeps are such specimens, truly unique in the gaming landscape. Whatever the criticism towards From games, no matter what it's about, your one, universal response to everything is just: "geet g00d, scruhb".
Holy shit, the thought that npcs like this actually exist...
this thread is literally complaining about the game's difficulty
no it isn't
read the OP again
he's right. the late game bosses are poorly balanced.
which ones and how?
Yeah, I can see someone who is not good at the game thinking this.
i beat the game like 10 times without help. i beat all the games. what more do you want?
The sad thing is that they have even less dialog options than the typical From Software NPC. These people are barely human.
>couldn't cope with the difficulty.
>mage builds.
Game is shit. some builds are shit some are too overpowered, some bosses and enemies have moronic movements wich are unfair and come as random shit out of the bag while there is no hint in any way when it comes to their abillities or poise (such as in bb and sekiro). most of the soul series games could easly be soloed by naked chars with basic weapons while with some enemies it can't be done in elden ring due to the fact that their atacks boil down to atack, get out rinse and repeat.
Everything stated above are a few of the reasons why er sucks. I could go in even more detail but it doesn't matter since most of the er gays would feel personally atacked or would start schizo screetching at It
>ER sucks because it's hard
>er sucks due to how its balance is made. there is little to no difficulty due tot he fact that stuff like mage build exists.
next time use your last living neurons moron.
>he needs to mage out to not struggle
>pointing out to mage builds being easy mode somehow implies I needed them to finish the game.
I guess there are no neurons left to be used in your case.
you're complaining the game is too hard unless you use the obvious OP bullshit
you are not smart
you are not good at games
Im not saying the game is hard moron. Im saying bosses and build balance don't make any fricking sense you living breathing troglodyte. How rotten must your brain be to not understand such a simple thing.
>Im not saying the game is hard moron
>some bosses and enemies have moronic movements wich are unfair and come as random shit out of the bag while there is no hint in any way when it comes to their abillities or poise
>wich are unfair
>unfair
>unfair
>unfair
>Im not saying the game is hard moron. Im saying the game is too hard.
Kek
>you are not good at games
Oh my. How will they ever recover from such an insult?
>some bosses and enemies have moronic movements wich are unfair
That was your whole argument, that (You) feel the game is unfair but thats just shitter cope.
>some bosses and enemies have moronic movements wich are unfair
>quotes only a part of the sentence
>proves his last point.
Guess he was right about fromdrones
maybe the only thing he was right about
>most of the soul series games could easly be soloed by naked chars with basic weapons while with some enemies it can't be done in elden ring
literally a skill issue and nothing else
>first miniboss is near one of the first camp fires
>you can't close the gap in his second phase without torrent due to the fact that you're forced to dodge and when it comes the time to atack he just dips
>"skill issue"
skill issue
>fight boils down to using a shield in key situations so the enemy doesn't just dip proving the fact that you can't just naked run this shit
case closed
skill issue
What is the proper way to play ER to you? Why are you splitting hairs like this?
everything should able to be killed in less than 5 minutes with no cheesing (mage,ashes other beta shit) using a single weapon and the atacks used by an enemy should make sense.
guess im moronic then. Still the game sucks due to stuff like broken hitboxes and meta builds boilind down to one shot frickfests both in pve and pvp.
>broken hitboxes
you mean an issue in every from game?
i never got fricked by hitboxes in ds 1, 3, bb,sekrio so far. only ds2
i never got fricked by hitboxes in elden ring so gg i guess
>everything should able to be killed in less than 5 minutes
What, why? Why such an arbitrary number? Do you actually play video games or are you shit posting? There is no way to balance bosses for five minute fights in an action RPG
>Why such an arbitrary number?
it was a rough example. Anything longer than 10 minutes when you fully know the atack patterns is boring and a waste of time
If you're taking longer than 10 minutes to down a boss when you know all its tricks then upgrade your weapon.
>if damage is bad then level up/upgrade weapon
one of the reasons why i love sekiro more.
Agreed. But Sekiro has a different philosophy designed around one weapon and occasionally using prosthetics and it's foolish to fault ER for not being as fine tuned as Sekiro. Just saying that in general not at you.
If you’re taking more than 10 minutes to beat any boss in ER then you’re either doing a really strict challenge run or you don’t actually know the boss’s moveset as well you think you do.
thats called moving the goalposts
the tree sentinel? those guy are waay easier to beat on foot, horse controls like crap
I beat the game including Malenia within the first week it came out. You just can't cope that it's a shit game because it hurts YOUR feelings.
sure you did buddy
What's so impressive or unbelievable about it? The game literally has a "win the game" summon bell (this is considered a hardcore game for hardcore gamers btw). If you can't beat all the bosses in less than a week then you might be some kind of special individual.
sure did bucko
Horseback combat is absolute dogshit
>I miss when bosses were difficult
When were Souls bosses ever difficult?
Dark lurker ,gael and malenia
>gael
unfortunately no.
he deals too little damage in a game where roll spam is very reliable defensive maneuver.
>Dark lurker
lol
>gael
Lmao
>malenia
rofl even
Seriously, in which world would you ever consider fricking Gael, the boss you can just lazily backstrafe to death in that massive, empty arena, a difficult boss?
At least they didn't make the same mistake with Malenia so you can't run away to safety as easily, Gael was the biggest fricking joke of a boss in DS3
They were difficult before I got gud, getting good is very advisable, maybe even required.
you're just bad
yeah i miss dark souls 2 also
What's worst is that all the bosses play exactly the same. 0 variety in such a long game. What were they thinking?
>What's worst is that all the bosses play exactly the same.
>Every dragon is the same enemy with a different paint of coat with 2 exceptions.
>Foreskin duo like 6 times
>Crystal Fart b***hes 4 times
>Night Knight dudes
idk
Their health is fine, but their damage isn’t. In previous souls games hitting the first health softcap gave enough breathing room for pretty much any encounter. In ER, hitting the first softcap is the bare minimum otherwise half the attacks one shot you if you’re not stacking damage absorptions
omg yes i frickING LOVE oblivion fast travel i love when the bonfire is next to the boss that 1 shots me so i can memorize all it's attacks after 50 attempts
>people that shit on ER for being "too hard" are soijak posters
can't make this shit up
i can beat the game in like 3 hours
>Go through fog wall
>ring summon bell
>try not to die of tedium while my summon kills the boss
This game is pure trash.
So kill the boss yourself.
Literally just upgrade your weapon.
Holy shit. I'd rather just not eat thank you.
how do they not die
>game designed around enemies punishing roll spamming and mashing R1 isn't overpowered anymore. two of the biggest major complaints of souls games.
>Ganker is massacred by it and it drives them insane
>the cherry on top, spirit summon mechanic flips the autism switch on the biggest of spergs so they think the game is too hard but if they use it spirits, they feel like they didn't beat the game
ER is the perfect filter game. it isn't even that hard but its hard just enough to expose all the frauds and aspies that claim they're so good at this shit.
It's fricking crazy seeing people drive themselves mad with how to "properly" beat an action rpg.
if you can't mindlessly bash your head into bosses without adapting then it's clearly bullshit
The weirdest part is you CAN so there should be no b***hing. The Spirit Cave in near the frozen lake, the godskin apostle and noble? I got gud and no hit the apostle so I had enough estus for the noble. Blood Mohg? I got gud enough to no hit phase 1. Now I'm on Malenia and doing the same thing. We have gone full fricking circle to Dark Souls 1 where people are b***hing the game is unfair. It's a wild time.
You're not special anon. Nearly everybody b***hing about Elden Ring has beat Elden Ring.
>Punishing roll spamming
I actually get fricked more if I try to time the roll, because the enemies are designed to delay to throw you off, if I just spammed 2 rolls instead I would dodge the attack without thinking
also the input queue shit is real and moronic
Post footage of you doing that to Morgott, Blood Mohg, etc. I flatly do not believe you.
too bad
>summons mimic with dual frost stomp
Yea I’m thinking I beat the game
you forgot
>never revamped their trash ass combat
>never fixed their abysmal camera
the new encounters could probably be fun with a new combat system but no, you had to be john demonssouls again
this game was made for complete homosexuals like lobosjr who never evolved, who hate actual good gameplay and responsive combat and not series of wacky timings and hitboxes to memorize so you can do something other than roll 20 times in a row
>i cannot adjust to change
Introverted Sensation
>A gorillian health
People who shit on ER bosses have probably not played the other games in the series
Every boss is more or less fine in my eyes but I still think Malenia stun canceling straight into Water Fowl Dance is the height of bullshit.
I've beaten literally every other game in the series. Bosses comboing endlessly and dodging your attack by flying away to the other side of the large boss arena is tedious and unfun. Compare fricking Elden Beast and his tracking stars bullshit to Soul of Cinder. Compare Malenia to nameless king.
NK > Melania
SoC < Elden Beast
Twin Princes < Godfrey
Oceiros < Maliketh
Dragonslayer Armor > Godskin Duo
Dancer < Fire Giant
Aldrich < Morgott
Yhorm <<<< Rykard
Sulyvhan < Radahn
>SoC < Elden Beast
>Dancer < Fire Giant
>Sulyvhan < Radahn
>Dragonslayer Armor > Godskin Duo
is this a joke? Godskin Duo is literally just two normal kinda hard enemies. Your taste is awful.
>Godskin Duo is literally just two normal kinda hard enemies. Your taste is awful.
Yeah, which Is why I said DSA is better
The rest are all objectively correct. Sulyvhan and Dancer are just anime tier spammers
Dancer is significantly better than Fire Giant who just stands there and maybe rolls around a bit and any difficulty comes from him being a damage sponge and being unable to see shit due to the camera
>Sulyvhan is an anime spammer but radahn isn't
are you high or something?
Radahn has way more thought put into him
Also, Fire Giant is by far the best Giant boss battle From has ever done
>Radahn has way more thought put into him
Yeah the thought is "summon other players the help beat him" wow.
>Also, Fire Giant is by far the best Giant boss battle From has ever done
That's not really saying much. From can't do Giant bosses because they seem incapable of scripting the camera to zoom out.
Shit taste
Radahn festival was awesome
I played ER Randomized and Fire Giant was honestly a perfectly fine fight. In Mohg's boss room. My literal only complaint about it vanished when he couldn't roll the entire continent away.
How the frick is Elden Beast better than Soul of Cinder lmao.
Hello, these are the only socially acceptable enemies that you may complain about. Note that these are not necessarily all difficult enemies, some are simply extremely fricking boring and have way too much health and do not respect your time (I am talking about the flower)
finger frickers are easy, you just use fire.
>Revenant
I guess casting heal to drain them for over half their health is too hard.
>s*ellcaster
Absolutely haram. Men are discussing the game, please go elsewhere.
>Men are discussing the game
Not in this thread. They are b***hing about attacks that can be easily dodged being unfair.
cope drone
>spells are incants
>godslayer flame
ez
yeah checked out when got to that fat frick who spins all over the place. I just don't care anymore. frick fromsoft
>the synthetic troony is b***hing about ER again
git gud homosexual
kys
go back to israelitetube to b***h about "modern gaming" while buying everything day 1
i don't buy anything schizo homosexual
Things that make Elden Ring a 9/10 instead of a 10/10
>chariot dungeons
>catacombs in general
>platforming
Everything else is pretty good
your 6 is upside down
>Playing Elden Ring like previous games provides an actual challenge but it's because the gameplay is still the same stale shit from a decade ago
>Playing Elden Ring like Elden Ring is boring as shit because the game is poorly balanced so you just end up raping bosses and enemies with spirit ashes, Ashes of War or Magic spam
Six fricking years and this is all we get? Nice job From.
I have played and loved:
>DeS
>DS1
>BB
How does Elden Ring stack up? Is it as good? Maybe not as good, but still worth it? (I'm guessing the latter)
Depends, what did you like about those games?
They are trans-friendly
Different things honestly
>DeS
Liked the variety in bosses, each needed its own technique
>DS
Liked the interconnected world
>BB
The combat was different yet very good, great aesthetic, great weapons
Honestly, I guess as long as ER has decent weapons, bosses, and a decent world, I'll be happy.
Well it ER has like one gimmick boss, so it doesn't have DeS aspect. It's an open-world, so being interconnected is a given. Combat is just DS3 but a bit faster, so maybe you'll like it. If you don't mind going through a ton of repetitive side-content to find a weapon you may enjoy, a lot of reused bosses/enemies and Dark Souls but bigger, then give it a try.
I think if I view it as an expansion to DS then I'll enjoy it.
Make sure you cheese the enemies back
The only bosses I hated fighting in this game were the dragons and it was literally because they would always end up flying out of their own fricking arena and disappear.
That shit was so stupid. Fromsoft is such a lazy fricking company
>Go to get key for entrance in raya lucaria
>Dragon instantly gets up and flies away out of the aggro zone while trying to hit me with blue flame breath
heheh, bet you're glad we put a tether range on the AI so they didn't do something stupid, huh?
Saved me the trouble of fighting him I guess
What I described has happened on multiple playthrough when I was heading to Ranni, you know the one that sits outside of her tower. Every single time it just disappears, doesn't even have to be flying.
>Just fighting dragon normally
>Huge AoE breath attack
>Ride away
>Dragon tries to give chase but just despawns
They could stop being lazy shits and allow the dragons to dynamically perch on the environment, you know, like in Skyrim 10 years ago
I started playing ER on launch but I haven't beaten elden beast.
Goyslop: The game
Got this game a week ago being the first "souls" game I've played and I gotta ask... when does it get interesting? I've played for 20 hours and I've yet to deviate from the same basic b***h combat of "dodge -> poke -> repeat". The exploration is fun and the world is nice to run around in but the combat is just.... dull? Tedious? You have no combos of your own and are entirely at the mercy of whatever the boss is doing and often I find myself just waiting for the boss to do something that lets me attack them only to die instantly if they happen to do an attack I haven't seen before that requires specific actions to avoid.
Is this seriously all there is to it or am I missing something here?
try the playing the older souls
newer ones put a lot more emphasis on bosses, for better or worse
Here's a cold hard fact that many people won't like hearing: If you think Elden Ring is easy in any way, then you cheesed the game in some way. The game is inherently difficult, and if you didn't find it to be difficult, then you did something to your playthrough that turned it into Easy Mode. Sorry, but it's the truth.