>Frontiers got an update
>added an OP and fun as frick Spindash
>added optional physics changes that make the game even more fun
>made combat more fluid
>added tons of challenges and new music for the jukebox
>cool birthday themed extras for free
>bug fixes and glitches outta here
>and to top it all off we got animation files of Update 3 that show off Tails, Knuckles, and Amy being kino as playable characters
YEP, I'M THINK WE'RE BACK AND BETTER THAN EVER
All of that useless shit and the core of the game is still bootleg BoTW. Not playing it
Sorry ya missin out on the most fun Sonic game since Adventure 1
Looks like pure garbage.
Because you have no soul
Now this... This is actually kino. Adventure bros.. We're finally BACK!
>because you have no soul
the whole game is forced soul
>CLUNK CLUNK
>oh no my sword broke
>15 minutes of paused gameplay while i play with in game legos
>genius invention does nothing and can't be used for more than a few seconds at a time
>ahhhh kino
>ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA
Holy rent free.
>Shitty weapons
>Annoying/arbitrary limitations
>Constant pausing gameplay
>HEY THATS ZELDA!
Amazing.
>ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA ZELDA
Sir, this is a Sonic thread. Go to one of the 4 billion TOTK threads in the catalogue to autistically seethe.
>Constant pausing gameplay
You literally pause all the time in other zelda games to switch items
>legos
Don't you like legos? Sega thinks you should.
Considering 2 is better than 1 idk what your shit taste is trying to say.
>SA1
>Great classic feeling Sonic levels
>Tails shares them too with a fun race
>Knuckles has fun treasure levels with a working radar
>Amy sucks I won't lie
>Gamma is fun but braindead
>Big is chill.
4/6 good gameplay styles. Now let's look at SA2
>Tails sucks
> Knuckles is back with WORSE levels and a broken radar
>Rouge is even WORSE than him somehow
>Eggman levels are decent
>Shadow levels are fine but worse than Sonic's. I'll still count them as decent
>Sonic ditches the classic levels for fun set piece crazy levels
3/6 good gameplay styles.
SA1 also has the better OST, kino hub world, and a better story that doesn't pretend to take itself seriously.
SA1is better amigo
Tails is identical to Eggman. Eggman is a little worse to play since he’s slower than Tails.
Eggmans levels are better to play. Lot of cheap shots in tails levels
i felt eggman's movement was more fluid than tails'
The only cheap shots I recall come from the artificial chaos but they spawn in most charact’s levels.
Not that anon, but Eggman at least has a couple of fun levels while every single Tails level is designed like ass.
You don't like Mission Street?
don't you have to fight the camera to get where the hover upgrade is
Especially Mission Street.
The only Tails stage I hate is hidden base. Mission Street is one of my favorite levels.
>Great classic feeling Sonic levels
Holy cope, no. They're short and entirely too linear.
>Can turn off the camera cut ins
I'm so happy they did that.
NANI!?
are you serious, I didn't know they added that
That's what the webm shows. Pay attention to the attacks and notice that they're the ones that would normally have a different camera. They also seem to execute faster because of it.
This is what sex with Ninja looks like, in case any of you were wondering.
I didn't miss out on Sonic Unleashed.
not that high of a bar tbqh
looks like dogshit why does it pause every time sonic hits an enemy why on fricking earth would they think that looks good
>no Chao garden
Into the trash it goes.
wtf is this shit? And is it an "open world" game?
combat and yes
>bootleg BoTW.
It may be "bootleg" but unlike BOTW its actually fun. You remember what "fun" is right anon?
>It may be "bootleg" but unlike BOTW its actually fun
According to what, your rock bottom standards?
>praises nu zelda
>standards
you shouldnt be one to talk about standards homosexual
>mentally slow moron
KEEP SAYING IT
>you shouldnt be one to talk about standards homosexual
Oh that's RICH coming from the Sonicgay desperately trying to shill this boring pile of trash.
>desperately
Pretty sure Frontiers high ratings on Steam, Metacritic, and wide praise for Update 2 and the Update 3 leaks tell a different story.
>wide praise for Update 2
Where? All the updates for Frontiers sucks ass. It’s either shit that should be in the game at launch or pointless bullshit to extend playtime. The best thing anyone can say about them is “It’s free so you can’t complain”.
>Where? All the updates suck ass
How's that echo chamber? In fact, show me one person not on this echo website that hates Frontiers updates or even view them in a negative light and I'll kneel.
I can wait sweetie
he mentions the birthday update, what do I win
>a stupid birthday theme that won't quit
>main menu
>extras
>birthday theme [OFF]
Sorry, need it from someone who actually played the game kiddo
he did, you can't leave a review on steam unless you played the game. don't move the goalposts now, I'll wait for your kneel post sweetie :3
Sorry sweetie but standing around like a moron on island 1 for 4 hours isn't exactly playing, still waiting
>show me one person not on this echo website that hates Frontiers updates or even view them in a negative light and I'll kneel.
stop moving the goalposts and kneel
still waiting for one person who played the game
so you'll just keep changing the rules so you never lose, how boring
>can't find me a single person
how funny, you talked all big but can't back it up
I did, and proved that it was someone who owned and played the game, for four hours no less, but you made up some hypothetical where you claimed he was "standing around like a moron on island 1 for 4 hours" which you can't prove but will just act like is true, which is all not at all what you wanted in the first place based on your initial question anyway.
>Where? All the updates for Frontiers sucks ass.
Imagine being this out of the loop....
And yet here you are, still woefully insecure about some anon on a mongolian basket weaving forum not liking it.
Saying someone is wrong and explain why they're wrong doesn't mean I'm insecure anon. That's not how this works.
Dunkey is getting more and more hated by the wider gaming community for his garbage takes. His game is not going to do well.
It doesn't even play remotely close to BOTW
It's more like sly cooper except instead of stealth you just run around really fast
And BotW is a bootleg Ubishit game. What’s your point?
It’s one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time, both from critics and fans.
>critics
No one cares what “game journalists” think
>fans
BotW zoomers aren’t real Zelda fans.
I wish totk caused some nostalgic resurgence of crying about botw but no, Ganker cried about it literally every single day for 6 fricking years, there was no downtime at all. God damn.
>brings up botwo out of nowhere
>that anon gets mad at you for bringing up a completely unrelated game, where the only thing in common with SF is the open world with grassy fields
>repost meme image as if you're proving something
NTA, and I even like botw, it's a great game, but please, remember your owns posts in this thread when you complain about Ganker being shit and unfit for discussion, unironically you're the cancer killing Ganker.
it's BOTW but i'm playing as mother frickin Sonic the Hedgehog, blue streaks speeds by instead of a crossdressing twink! sounds like a win to me
be afraid Maniagays
>hold right to win
That level design looks like putrid garbage and is the main reason why Sonic Team should not be allowed to develop 2D titles anymore.
Literally the same type of level design From Sonic 1,2,3K you baiter
Everything about this game just looks so fun.
The level design, the aesthetic, the animation. I wanna play bros... Just wish it had online co-op but at least there's Steam Remote-Play.
>the aesthetic
Yeah but Sonic characters are cuter than Mario characters so my point still stands.
>>hold right to win
That is ALL Mania is, constant use of automated gimmicks to push you forward and not holding right to win will get you killed or cause you to lose all your momentum often enough.
>That is ALL Mania
Yeah, good luck with that on Press Garden or Titanic Monarch. Oh wait. You didn't play the game.
Post proof.
>hold right to win
>that is ALL Mania is
...did we play the same game?
>Hold right to win is bad
But i thought posers and zoomers loved sonic 2???
But Superstars is using Mania's physics. Why would they be afraid when it's an absolute win for them?
Actually it's NOT using Mania Physics. An interview came out earlier that said Oshima's team recreated it from scratch.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/interview-how-sonic-superstars-was-born-from-a-zoom-drinking-party/
uh huh
its a bad game at the core, cant be fixed
>doomposters STILL seething because Frontiers was decent and got 7/10s unlike the trash they hoped
>they lost with Superstars too
fricking KEK. what do you guys have left!?
Update 3 story
I've heard alot of people seething about this but playing as the three and sonic acheiving a new super form against the end sounds pretty sick.
IDK sounds fine to me
>Completely retcons the base game's ending via lazy plot contrivance (Sage just randomly goes "Actually, I have this SUPER UNLIKELY scenario you could do to save your friends that I never mentioned was possible in the base game")
>Tails, Knuckles and Amy hunt down Chaos Emeralds with their unique abilities
>Sonic refights the Titans and collects macguffins that can give him a new super form to fight The End in a new boss battle
This is so fricking stupid, they basically made this last part of the game into smaller scale Sonic Adventure game
I love it
Yeah i saw alot of people seething over this but it seems pretty good, i don't get the hate for it. Seems like a fun finale assuming they don't frick this up
Will we get Hyper Sonic or some other transformation? I'm tired of Sonic games ending with Super Sonic
Seems to be a new Cyber corruption transformation
cool
New form becuase Sega is weirdly autistic about Hyper.
They outright denied Flynn from using it in the standard story. IT'd be weird of them to suddenly take back their word for some free DLC.
>I love it
Same. This is the most soulful Sonic has been in so long (aside from Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog which is peak kino). I'm not gonna lie I've had my doubts about Ian Flynn before but now I couldn't be happier that he's writing for the games.
Christ, at least PRETEND like you're not samegayging.
lel
More like they actually finish the fricking game,we already knew since supreme boss fight and all the unused stuff he has
>show me what you're made of
IAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN
tbf ignorance is bliss is an amazing video
I don’t understand when he started doing this. His strongest writing was Pre-boot Archie and he never shoved in awkward song references back then.
If Nu-Ian wrote this issue now Knuckles would be guarantied to say “Don’t approve of him, but got to trust him. This alliance has a purpose this partnership is only temporary”.
HOLY FUARK
I KNEEL IAN FLYNN
The bottom panel is truly some heinous shit.
I remember everyone was creaming themselves over the His World reference but even back then I didn't think it felt like a natural line of dialogue. He should have set it up better or just not have used it.
The His World reference was early in IDW before everyone got sick of cheap song references.
>I'LL CRUSH YOU!
Probably the best example of his dialogue references working out. Doesn't feel forced at all and referencing his SMBZ implementation at the same time as his massive rage-induced freak-out screams "Oh shit!" to the audience.
Ian didn't write Scrapnik Island
Yeah, you can tell because it was actually good.
It isn't as forced, it just almost feels like it since we all knew it was coming as soon as he showed up in the comic.
I know but it's still the comic and it's still a pointless reference. Although nothing really tops doing a fricking Family Guy reference...TWICE.
You realize Ian Flynn didn't write The Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog right?
Talking about this stuff reminded me of immersion-ruining references in Sonic in general.
Ian Flynn didn't write TMoSTH and most people found the family guy death pose reference funny. Have you tried developing a sense of humor and stop being so bitter all the time?
>most people found the family guy death pose reference funny.
Do you always use the lowest common denominator audience as a baseline for what's good?
>Have you tried developing a sense of humor and stop being so bitter all the time?
I'll develop a sense of humor when the Sonic franchise goes a single entry without making an obnoxious reference to pop culture or blatant nostalgia. Don't hold your breath.
>Do you always use the lowest common denominator audience as a baseline for what's good?
Who are you to call any group the "lowest common denominator" as if you're some arbiter of taste. Pull the stick out of your ass and stop being bothered by petty stuff.
Who are you to say "most people" as if that's some kind of designation of quality that shouldn't be argued against? You started with this dismissive backhanded statement, frick you.
because the editors tard wrangled him. everything he writes on his own is garbage
>from the ignorance is bliss music video"
Holy frick BASED IAN!!!
What the hell am I reading? So does take place in-between island 4 and 5 or what?
It's after island 5.
TLDR it's an alt take of Island 5 after the friends being absorbed cutscene where his friends collect the emeralds while sonic fights the echoes of the ancients in cyber space to gain more cyberspace power to take on the end
Will it still be possible to do the old version post update? Like the boss music.
Sounds like its a complete rewrite of the final act. Haven seen a game do this before with DLC, but hey, Im all for it. It reads like what we shouldve gotten in the first place It also plays into my theory that Update 3's plot is what was originally planned before Sonic Team had to cut content
>let's do it to it
you can tell ian wants archie canon so badly
>Ha-HA! Get a load of this!
He said the thing and I must clap.
>He said the thing and I must clap.
This but unironically.
Christ, Ian's writing has gotten obnoxious in recent years.
I'm unironically starting to miss the previous writers. Say what you will about Pontac, at least his writing didn't exclusively boil down to shoehorned references and insecure meta commentary, when it isn't going for bland, insufferable melodrama.
>I'm unironically starting to miss the previous writers.
>BALDY MCNOSEHAIR
>IM SUPPOSED TO BE THE FASTEST... BUT I WAS TOO SLOW TO SAVE MY LITTLE BUDDY!
>None of this is good, Vector. That's why its called war.
>"YOURE GOING HOME IN A BOSS!", said the Mario-looking enemy
Anon, please. You can criticize Ian's writing, you dont even have to like it, but to say the old writers were preferable is the most extreme take I've ever heard
What, are you implying that
>Hey, remember Team Sonic Racing? Hey remember Dark Gaia? Hey, remember my IDW OCs? Hey, remember...
>[INSERT SONG REFERENCE HERE]
>"SONIC I'M SO USELESS AND INCONSISTENT WAAAAH IM SO SORRY WAAAAH"
>"Sonic I suddenly care about the Master Emerald and I can't leave Angel Island. Please ignore how I didn't give a frick about that for almost two decades now"
Is any better? Ian WAS a good writer at one point, but he fricking sucks now and is only getting worse.
Not that anon but yes. I would take Ian and some references ANY day of the week over the fricking Lost World or Forces writers
We ain't playing revisionist history with this
Ian is better than Pontaff and Graff because it feels like he’s actually trying and he does care about Sonic even if he hates certain characters (Tails and Shadow).
Pontaff and Graff were clearly phoning it in and were very open about never playing a single Sonic game when writing colors.
>even if he hates certain characters (Tails and Shadow).
Holy based, I will now defend Ian in every thread
>Ian is better than Pontaff and Graff because it feels like he’s actually trying
Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree there. Ian has been phoning it in HARD since IDW. You want to see Ian actually trying, you look at the Archie comics, or the Boom comics, or the Classic comics he got to work on. IDW and Frontiers isn't him trying, it's Ian coasting off of the goodwill he's already built up and falling back on his worst writing habits.
All good. Only weebBlack folk seethe other these.
>Ian
>worse than LAWL BAWLDEE MCNOSEHAIR ECKS DEE
Frick off, Pontac.
Holy shit shut the frick up
I will kill you.
>New super form
Oh no. More dragonball shit.
I'm okay with that.
So animations and script are done,i guess next is new super form and cutscenes,sounds kino,i wish sega give them more time to implement this on release because it's obvious the cut story
I wonder if it's el sonic rojo or dark sonic like leaks say waaaaay ago
cringe as frick
spindash up and down and all around baby
spindash while being cool, while being wild and while being groovy
Oh yeah. That game happened.
Knuckles literally becomes a drill or he uses a drill? Either way, seems moronic, Knuckles can stylishly spin into the ground like a drill without that shit.
It's for the Cyloop, thats sonics natural ability so the others can't do it without items(Knuckles drill, Tails Cyblaster, Amy tarot cards).
Honestly its higher effort than just copy pasting cyloop so its fine
>doubling down on fortune teller amy
neat
They should drop the tarot card nonsense and expand her character more practically, frankly. This is a goofy thing that I liked them never really leaning on.
She also has her hammer in the animations
Yeah, and the hammer works as a weapon as standard alongside being iconic to her. I'm talking about if they want to expand outward, I'm sure there are more sensible things they could do than fall back on the obscure almost trivia reference to the tarot card thing. I'm also sure things that they do could actually serve to make her character more well rounded in normal situations if they're smart about it.
an OP and fun as frick Spindash
WHich you need to S rank all this bullshit to even unlock. Great way to get people who wouldn't touch this dogshit before to play it now!
>>made combat more fluid
Make a comarison video or I don't beleive you.
>S rank 30 second challenges that can be S ranked within 10 seconds
Oh no...so difficult.....
>make a comparison video
how about YOU take that combat webm posted earlier, YOU go on YouTube, YOU search up "Frontiers combat gameplay" and YOU compare it. The frick, I ain't your mother
>>S rank 30 second challenges that can be S ranked within 10 seconds
You didn't list how many challenges or the fact that you need to play through the entire game first before getting access to the fun part that fixes the game, telling.
>how about YOU take that combat webm posted earlier, YOU go on YouTube, YOU search up "Frontiers combat gameplay" and YOU compare it.
YOU are the one shilling this update as being lifechanging, dipshit. So you sell it like the dancing monkey you are. But let me guess, you can still freeze in midair with the horribly broken parry mechanic?
>YOU DIDN'T LIST THAT YOU NEEDED TO BEAT AN 8 MONTH OLD GAME TO-
first off you don't have to beat it. Second off it's 10 challenges on each island.
>you can still freeze in midair
Yep. is a parry mechanic the thing that breaks you? If it is then why are you even in this thread? That's not criticism, that's autism.
Not doing the challenges thank you. This game is full of forced gameplay
Die
The point is you need to beat the game to uock the feature you wanted to actually play the whole game with
you don't need to beat the game
>YES YOU DO
>unlock the final Island
>ignore all of it and just go to the 10 challenges to unlock Spin dash
The only difficult Cyberspace stage to S rank is 1-2 for some reason
I'm just waiting for the Update 3 kino
I don't care about the other stuff that should've been in the game since launch
I wonder if Supreme's fight will ever be updated to not be a complete and utter disappointment.
pretty sure the director said the final bosses are something he wants to change in the updates
Hope he isn't lying this time.
Judging by the story leaks in Update 3 he isn't
>instead of a 2D schmup boss it becomes space harrier
would be kino
The 2d shmup wasn't the problem, the 3d bullet ballpit before it was.
I wonder why they put Sage there if leaks are suggesting she isn’t playable
They are changing the ending so instead of mostly dead sage you get safe sage
>Sonic patch has more mechanical changes than TotK has over BOTW
>game that already had rock solid mechanics has less changes than a game that needed an overhaul just to not be a total shitshow
Gee, who would've thought?
the retranslated mod crashes the new update
didnt mean to reply
>shitda
>rock solid mechanics
for anybody wondering how the Spindash is
https://twitter.com/BlueVivacity/status/1672441991030792192?t=gSumsxh17L3uBuWyS1U42g&s=19
https://twitter.com/3Caramelg122/status/1672600472539070469?t=QKu5Td3LR0Z_o_DMzRI9rw&s=19
You can charge it and zip, or just hold down L trigger while running or jumping to do it instantly, or stand still and hold L trigger to do a cute roll
Too bad the switch version looks like shit. It's the one I wanted to play
switch owner here, can confirm....yeah it looks like shit
Runs fine. but it ain't nowhere near as pretty as the other versions. comfy tho
sanic
The vanilla game was pretty okay, a solid 6 or 7, but I feel like when the third update comes out the final score will sit at around 8. Sonic Frontiers isn't just good, it's becoming great.
It's definitely an 8 for a Sonic game, but in general? Frick no.
vanilla was a 6 imo. Too janky and weak in the second half but lot of fun and potential. The two updates bumped it up to a 7, it'll probably stay that way unless the new characters are extremely fun to play with and they fix more of the glaring issues like pop in. Only way I can see it going to an 8
Bur judging off these updates I think the next game Def has potential for an 8 as long as they DONT
FRICK
IT
UP
Vanilla was a solid 5.5, with updates it will go up to a 6 and no higher. This does not effect my enjoyment of the game however.
sanic
I should not wait a year for a spindash in a Sonic game
>things that should have been in the game since day 1
>OMG SEGA BASED SONIC IS SAVED
Shut the FRICK up!
None of this is worthy of praise!
You're right they should've just left the game as mediocre and ignored listening to our criticism
There was no "listening to criticism" because Sonic Frontiers was half a game in the first place despite having a 5 year development cycle, all because they wanted to rush the game out for the holidays like they usually do.
>there was no listening to criticism that's why
yes that's why Kishimoto said on Twitter he's been hearing the criticism for Ouranos Island, cyberspace physics, and shit liks being able to skip the slot machine or boost while jumping
Why are you in this thread? Serious question. You haven't played the game. You don't know anything about the game or the updates. So why? Just want to validate your ego by shitting on something?
>You haven't played the game
Frick off.
I'm not a pathetic apologist like you praising a company for adding shit that should have (and would have) been in the game Day 1 if they didn't rush the product out.
Oh WOW, a picture of a title screen wow you showed me.
>Oh WOW, a picture of a title screen wow you showed me.
Keep slurping on hedgehog wiener why don't you.
wow ANOTHER picture taken off Google. I can rename filed too you know
>Lv1 rings
>that pathetic low Speed
>skill counter is not even capped with how piss easy it is to unlock everything
You're not helping your case. Just leave the thread anon, it's better for everyone.
There's literally no reason to upgrade your rings, homosexual.
Not him but anon thats perfectly average stats for the average player.
Bad trolling
>adding shit that should have (and would have) been in the game Day 1 if they didn't rush the product out.
It wouldn't have been in because Sega cut them off. They EARNED the extra dev time by the game selling well. You underestimate how hard Sonic Team has to beg Sega for budget for anything. Sega wants Sonic games to be shovelware for kids.
So wait.. who is at fault here? Sega or Sonic Team? It feels like Sonic Team genuinely tried this time, but Sega crunched them.
It's always been Sega of Japan. Sonic Team IS moronic, but they genuinely want to make good games. Sega's the one who throws mandates on them (Avatar for Forces, next game MUST be action heavy hence the combat in Frontiers) or gives them pathetically small release windows (Sonic 06 just started development late 2005? Get it shipped out by next Christmas. I don't care if it's HD new Gen tech, you WILL ship it out by then)
... Jesus christ, I feel kinda bad for lizuka and Kishimoto now.
Iizuka is literally the one reason we haven't gotten Sonic 06 tier games again, he tries as hard as he can to lessen Sega's influence over the games but they're still his superiors so he can't do too much
who made the decision to lock sonic's soap shoes behind signing up for a fricking newsletter
>who made the decision to force you to sign up for their newsletter for nostalgia bait
you underestimate just how moronic they truly are
Probably the same people who made it so you need to do 40 challenges in order to unlock an action Sonic has had by default since CD and 2.
Its Sega of Japan's fault. Sonic Team did their best with what they had and fortunately they did well. Now Sega is actually FINALLY giving Sonic Team the time and resources they need to make good products.
Was Unleashed the last high-budget Sonic game?
Yes it was
that game is like 15 years old. what the frick
>Unleashed opening cinematic STILL hasn't been beaten.
Lost World was, it was also the last game to have all new zones.
Sonic Boom games probably take that distinction, actually.
That's fair, I was only thinking of canon games (LW, Forces, Speed Battle, TSR, IDW)
>It wouldn't have been in because Sega cut them off
They had FIVE WHOLE YEARS to make this trash, no shit Sega cut them off eventually. There's not enough time in the world for Sonic Team because their management is piss poor and aimless
They only had 2 years actually
They worked on Rangers in 2017/18/19, mid 2020 the whole project had to be scrapped and reworked because it wasn't received well internally I believe? Either way it's a miracle they got this shit together by then
>covid dev cycle
>They worked on Rangers in 2017/18/19, mid 2020 the whole project had to be scrapped and reworked because it wasn't received well internally I believe?
That doesn't disprove what I said though. Sonic Team has piss poor management that causes them to waste massive amounts of time and resource because of their incompetence and lack of direction.
Every time someone talks about a Sonic game, something new is frankensteined onto a point. Where did you get that the whole project had to be scrapped in mid 2020, 3 years into development?
Based on speculation from Sega saying it was meant to be out in 2021 but pushed back to "ensure quality" and rumors of Iizuka going at it with heads of SoJ in 2019 because of his unsatisfaction with the Rangers project, and how they handled Sega
>*Based on speculation
precisely what I expected.
Oh god you're one of those prentious fricks aren't you
Nice projection. To be frank, it's even worse in your case, because the basis of your pretention is talking bullshit as though it were fact. The Sonic fanbase standard.
>To be frank
wow you really are pretentious. you don't even realize it and that's even WORSE
Next game will have bigger budget thanks to Frontiers sales. We got hope
...there's no relation to Frontiers' sales in the elevation of budget. Actually read what you're posting.
Anon...I don't even want to explain it if you can't read between the lines. I hope you don't take irl stuff at face value too
You're very unintelligent.
Okay let's go through it very slowly. Let me know if I'm going to fast for you Anon, okay? I know it's tough so I'll explain in easy words..
SEGA...NO...GIVE...SONIC TEAM....MONEY...AFTER....UNLEASHED
Still following? Good! Okay then!
SONIC TEAM...NO....HAVE...BIG....MONEY...TO...MAKE...GAMES....AFTER....UNLEASHED
Let's take a small break..don't strain yourself. You're not dumb, you're just special okay? Now here it comes
SONIC TEAM...FINALLY....MAKE....GAME....THAT....SELL...GOOD.....
SEGA.....GIVE.....SONIC TEAM.....MONEY.....AFTER.....FRONTIERS......
Yaaaayyy! You read it, all on your own!!!! Congratulations!!!
refer to:
was it still too much for you to understand? I apologize but maybe I could speak to your special ed teacher and she may be able to explain to you in a way you can understand?
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>LW bombs
>ST says they'll take their time and do better next time
>Forces bombs
>ST says they'll take their time and do better next time
>Frontiers bom- does surprisingly well
>ST says they'll take their time and do better next time
It's the same shit as usual. Frontiers isn't proof they weren't lying this time, it's just a fluke before the next game is business as usual.
Known Lost World sales -which were for less than half a year on the market and preceding the Steam release- were at over 700K units. Forces was noted to have done very well and was a sales headline for the sales period of its release, but we don't have explicit numbers, only explicit knowledge that Sega was pleased with its sales.
If they are pleased with the sales then why not show them?
Because they weren't giving explicit numbers for singular games as a general matter in that time period. We didn't get numbers for the other titles noted to have contributed to over 14 million physical sales either, and those included Kiwami 2 and Football Manager 2018.
Yet they were fine with showing off previous numbers. It's PR. Stop believing proved liars.
You can't lie in investor reports. You are talking shit and taking preference to your own unsubstantiated opinion over the known information.
It was a cheap ass game. Underwhelming numbers for other Sonic titles would be a success for Forces. They won't put out the numbers because it's embarrassing as frick.
They bombed critically and each time ST said they would devote more time and resources to the next game, which is why nobody had hope for Frontiers. I think a lot of shills tend to forget just how dire things were since 2017.
... the critical reception was par for the course of new Sonic game going back to 2011 after Generations and Colors did well. Even the Olympic games were received with middling scores with the only outliers being rereleases of classic entries and TSR or an occasional mobile game. Sonic Boom did far worse critically AND commercially, but we still got numbers there. 2017 isn't special in the least. And since then? That was the year Mania came out as the first non-rerelease with a high score in a while. If anything, it was a positive year with Mania's reception critically and Forces being acknowledged as a positive source of sales.
Dire for modern Sonic fans, you moronic shill.
All of the games released in the mainline modern entries were critically received negatively since Generation up to Forces. Your response is meaningless. Your new qualifier doesn't validate any aspect of your post. Forces wasn't special in its middling scores- but it still was regarded positively in regards to commercial performance by Sega.
As anon said.
>They EARNED the extra dev time by the game selling well.
This isn't a typical case of devs being lazy. It Sega of Japan gave them a very limited time frime with very limited workers. Its a miracle that the game turned out good and was a success, Morio Kishimoto would have been fired if this game was a failure. All these extra updates were 100 EARNED. This isn't some EA lazy dev scenario. Now that the game was a huge success Sonic Team is getting far more man power, and far more time and funds.
>Morio Kishimoto would have been fired if this game was a failure.
Bullshit
What do you think happened to Nakamura kek. He directed fricking 06 and then Forces and now his ass is gone.
Nakamura is still there. He was credited with Development Support of Origins and multiple Puyo Puyo titles prior.
>Development Support of Origins
No wonder it was such a shoddy port. Everything this man touches turns to shit
Of course your response to being wrong is cope.
What the frick does that even mean. are you incapable of having a fricking conversation without some snarly Marvel quip???
You have no self awareness.
*also involvement with Frontiers, Colors: Ultimate, some Sonic and Mario Olympic games, and TSR.
*and now I've found that he's seemingly both Director AND Producer for the new Samba de Amigo.
no NG+ option hmmmm
>added an OP and fun as frick Spindash
The last thing Sonic Frontiers needed is more braindead game breaking win buttons
there wasn't enough backlash about locking power boost in cyberspace levels behind the marathon mode all s-rank so now they did it again
Get good
Did the fix the end of the game being completely rushed and unfinished yet?
no that's in update 3
One update is all it takes to make the game fun.
Also, they added momentum.
It's not "free" you paid for the game. The game was intentionally released in an unfinished state so that they could maybe finish whatever they feel like if they get around to it.
>Jump Deceleration set to 0
Damn this feels so good.
>sonicucks still pretending like this game matters
based dunkey already annihilated this turd
>based dunkey alre-AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
keep saying it
Didn't his GF frick a black guy.
>Dunkey
His new game is going to sell less than Frontiers.
>Dunkeychuds tried to review bomb Frontiers
>Failed miserably
>Score is only going up after Update 2 and the Update 3Leaks
Its over Asschuds.
I will never understand people who watch people play games or listen to music on youtube. You are FRICKED.
Who the frick is this ugly as frick animal
dunkey, he does league of legends rap videos
>League of lesbos
Tell me no more, my opinion is now settled at the lowest.
Now he needs to tear apart Fire Emblem Engage which I’m surprised he didn’t do
I'M FLOWING WITH TIME
I'M FLOWING INTO THE LIGHT
DISAPPEAR!
Should i buy the Switch version of Frontiers
Play the demo on switch and see for yourself
There's a demo for it
ignore combat. just go straight for the open zone setpiece and spheres. Also set the difficulty to easy
>Also set the difficulty to easy
I just got like 500k and still got a B in Hard. How easy is it in Easy?
Super easy, barely takes any effort so you can quickly move on to the next one
Also there's only 10 challenges per Island, none on Rhea Island
>Also set the difficulty to easy
The challenges are piss easy. Don't be a pussy
>Also set the difficulty to easy
Don't listen to this coward. I'm been grinding the action stages all day on Hard difficulty its fine. I just need to S-Rank all the action stages on Kronos island and I'm done.
>enjoying grinding these challenges
Anon...most people just want to get it as quickly as possible and move on so they can VRRRM VRRM VRRRRRRR
>Anon...most people just want to get it as quickly as possible and move on so they can VRRRM VRRM VRRRRRRR
For me its about the Journey AND the Destination.
I respect it but VRRM VRRM VRRRRRRRRRMMMMMM reduces my braincells and makes me want to spindash NOW
I think I need to replay the game because it has been months and I forgot about how to fight. So any tips for the Action Chain Challenges? I'm only getting C.
did they remove denuvo?
poorgay cope
>add spindash
>game is instantly good now
WHY THE FRICK IS SPIN DASH A POST GAME WITH S RANK. I'm not upset at the S rank rather the fact it has to be all stages. Why the frick isn't this just a regular addition.
The good news is if you set the difficulty to easy, it makes it easier to get the spin dash.
Again I'm not upset about that I've gotten before on the switch ver all S in matter of minutes before I returned it and got the PC ver which I have waited for the updates since. I don't think I will be bothering with that, its just a dumb way to keep you hooked.
Yeah it gets kinda repetitive. It is really easy however, just chain a bunch of shit together then as soon as you get the S you can quit in the menu and it counts
Spin Dash breaks the game so I understand why but it should've been available after you've beaten the end
on the one hand the boost wheel looks exactly like the botw stamina wheel, on the other hand I get way more out of upgrading sonic's boost then upgrading link's stamina
technically you don't because you can just get infinite boost meter by drawing an infinity symbol with sonic
Sauce on the OP?
why does this game cause so much butthurt
Because it's the best game ever made
>added an OP and fun as frick Spindash
Oh, cool.
>to unlock the spindash you have to do all the chain challenges with an S rank
>the bosses spawn and still trigger their unskippable cutscenes while doing the challenge
Hey, didn't some people complain that the game was too easy? Well, here's something that can keep them busy, then.
You need to beat bosses to get enough points for the S rank most of the time
Not only that, but you only unlock it on the save file you got all the S-Ranks on. Thank god for the mod loader codes.
First island was kind of cool, but the charm wore off fast and by the end I just wanted to be done with the game. I'm glad I could just fish from Big and skip half the content. Sonic's movement in the overworld felt so bad that the towers on the 4th island felt like a fricking chore to climb instead of a blast, not to mention there was literally nothing to even discover on it. I never felt the need to look around with wonder anywhere.
>not to mention there was literally nothing to even discover on it.
Gameplay is its own reward.
after this update the game looks and runs way better but it's also kicking my gpu usage up to 99%, anyone else?
so did they fixed anything in sonic origins plus?
idk what the original origins bugs were, but i noticed a lot of shit that's wrong in s3&k while playing as amy
weird physics shit. some sound effects are louder than they're supposed to be. some sounds are even gone like lava waterfalls.
apparently roll lock was removed from 1 meaning drop dash doesn't feel like total shit, haven't tried it myself
besides that no not really anything major, 3 still has muffled music, cd's sound levels are still very fricked, 3's replacement tracks still sound shit, you still can't select levels on a cleared save outside 3 and the extra options from the mobile versions are still locked in debug
They fixed the rolling jump lock and a bit of the issues in s3&k though they introduced new bug like not being able to pause in doomsday zone and fighting Knuckles at hidden palace as Super/hyper softlocks the level.
>fighting Knuckles at hidden palace as Super/hyper softlocks the level.
are you fricking kidding
>fighting Knuckles at hidden palace as Super/hyper softlocks the level
Fricking how
what was the last mainline 3d game that had a spindash?
I think lost world has the spin dash
It was a glorified boost in that game. Very little inclined geometry to take advantage of so it's just a "go faster" button if the run button is too slow for you.
It did. It was a primary means of going fast in that game as well.
>WOOOOOO UNFINISHED GAME HYPE
You would have lambasted Frontiers if it released in 2016.
still more soulful than botw
I don't see what that has to do with anything other than nintentrash living rent free in your head.
it sounds like fine wine but im not putting the game back on until its fully updated and finished. gonna have the best experience with it. probably shouldnt have paid full price but ill do anything for Amy Rose
you should probably at least get the spin dash now so you can enjoy Amy kino and not have to worry about grabbing it then
alright ill take your advice anon, is unlocking it hard?
You have to S-Rank all the action stages in the game (there like 40 I think). Its not hard. The trick is to get the orbs and build up your multiplyer then do stuff like tricks, and kill enemies.
You'll get into the groove of it. But if you need a guide. Here.
Youtube face, sponsors, fake nasal voice, he lie in title/thumbnail, shitty 1950s style mic that cant manage audio properly, he doesn't know what is a compressor, background music is so loud compared to the speech that you can’t understand anything.
S rank all 40 new action chain challenges, 10 per Island (minus Island 4)
its not hard at all, just tedious. that's why I did it now so I can enjoy the third update and not have to do this shit then
>probably shouldnt have paid full price but ill do anything for Amy Rose
Based Amy simp.
https://twitter.com/DreedDoes/status/1672681029482565632?s=20
Amy's animation modded in
can't wait for modders to have fully playable tails/knuckles and amy in the open zones with their new movesets before update 3
Wow cool alll so I can just run around an empty field. That's always what I wanted to do.
And btw you can't fricking praise Sega for adding dlc MONTHS later that just lets Sonic do what he was created to do in the 90's. That should have been in since the start. This game is trash.
>added an OP and fun as frick Spindash
Did it also add physics? Because otherwise that's a worthless addition
>added optional physics changes that make the game even more fun
>optional
lol
Go home shill
are you moronic? Like legitimately are you moronic? Anyone who played the game knows what that means.
>optional physics
>can change the physics in game settings to allow momentum for jumping /etc
>but the word optional is apparently bad
Why are you in this thread?
Yes, it's bad, because it limits the level design to account for every possible combination. There's a reason why literally no other platformer/collectathon does this, it shows a severe lack of confidence in the goddamn gameplay.
>because it limits the level design to
It doesn't. nice fricking headcanon that you seemingly came up with to prove your point.
>BUT
Even in the cyberspace levels (which also now carry over the jump and boost physics ) the level design isn't "limited". It's the same it's been from the other games it was stolen from
And yet when Sakurai added in basic shit like Home run contest you motherfrickers creamed your panta
I wonder why
>And yet when Sakurai added in basic shit like Home run contest you motherfrickers creamed your panta
What the frick are you talking about?
Were you dropped on your head a lot as a child?
Is this really the height of wit from people who willingly suck corporate dick in an actual shill thread with an OP that didn't even bother to hide the marketing language?
a quick Google search was all it took. You stupid amigo?
I was not questioning the existence of the random irrelevant thing you brought up based on your imagined schizo culture war, you actually moronic Black person
>what the frick are you talking abiut
>uh actually I was not questioning what you said moron
are all Sonic fans this stupid? Is it like an unconscious thing?
Who are you quoting?
I was always questioning what he said, just not the existence of the specific thing he mentioned
I even explained exactly what I was talking about in the rest of that sentence you didn't read, illiterate moron
you sound like you're mad that you lost
I'm mad that you're a disingenuous piece of shit
If you get mad because you couldn't understand someone else's post that kinda makes you an autistic
Please explain why he brought up smash, completely unprompted, accusing me of being an enemy fan
It still hasn't been addressed
Oh god you're such an idiot
He brought it up because he was making a comparison of how other fanbases like Smash praise their games for adding in basic features that should've been in the original and criticize Frontiers harshly for it despite it being industry standard. He then said "I wonder" to imply that there's a bias against Sonic
>he was making a comparison
uh huh
>And yet when Sakurai added in basic shit like Home run contest you motherfrickers creamed your panta
have a nice day
kek sounds like you're just mad you still don't get it for some reason
>you
>your
This is not a general comparison between two vague groups
I understand just fine that you're a shitposting Black person
Who praised Smash for adding in homerun contest? Not to mention Homerun contest isn’t a basic feature, it’s a minigame that most players barely touch.
If Sakurai was like the Sonic Frontiers devs rolling wouldn’t be in the game at launch and was added in months after release but only unlocks if you beat classic mode with every character under 20 minutes.
But that was never the argument moron, both posts he was replying to were talking about how customizable physics are bad for platforming level design.
I'm not part of your fricking argument I'm just explaining a post that was questioned don't bring me into your Sonic bullshit
>there's a bias against Sonic
There is. From Sonic fans. For good reason. I don't even play Smash but from what I've seen they're all solid and only Brawl was disliked and that was only by competitive players for the tripping mechanic. Not exactly comoarable to Sonic.
Brawl irks me at this point for being too damn floaty and the active wackiness Melee had over realism is a bittersweet feeling in a way, but Tr4sh was even worse at all of that so I give Brawl a pass because of nostalgia soul from it.
Sonic wishes his 3D games were ever as polished as anything from Nintendo. Hell even Ratchet and Clank, Spryo, Rayman and Crash all were more solid entries (excluding the dark eras both Crash and Spyro was forced under).
>Spyro and Crash
>excluding the majority of the 2000s
And you're the moron for thinking the quality of Smash Bros can fricking be compared to this dogshit slop Sonic is doing.
You Black folk lack etiquette for appeal and polish, and just worship the idea of Sonic doing x rather than setting the fricking STANDARD of such, which he fricking can't because he has hacks for devs now.
I have to deal with these fricking idiots on a daily basis. I like Sonic and I want him to get better but the fans...they're fricking unbearable to talk to. It's like nailing Jello to wall, it's impossible.
>NO YOU CAN'T COMPARE TO GAMES BECAUSE ONE IS BETTER
>FRICK YOU FOR LIKING SONIC TEAM LISTENING TO FEEDBACK FOR ONCE AND SHOWING IT IN FREE UPDATES NO FRICK YOU YOU SHOULD BE AS JADED AS ME YOU PIECE OF SHIT
wow
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU ADD SOMETHING IN UPDATE FOR FREE
The absolute fricking state of Sonic haters
I accept your concession.
Who was creaming their pants over this? Smashgays only cared about roster reveals.
The frick, this wasn't in the base game? For what fricking purpose? First he removes good fast gameplay, then trophies now this? How can anyone call him anything but lazy? How do you remove ALREADY FINISHED CONTENT?
>People shit on Frontiers for adding in shit that wasn't able to be in the base game for free
>People praise other games that do the same thing since this is pretty much the norm in the industry now
Not that hard to get bro
>They weren't able to put good core game mechanics in the base game
lmao, even when coming up with disingenuous arguments you still hit yourself
>Even in the cyberspace levels (which also now carry over the jump and boost physics ) the level design isn't "limited". It's the same it's been from the other games it was stolen from
1) Cyber Space originally came with fixed physics PRECISELY because they had actual level design. Compare that to the overworld which is an aimless mess of springs, rails, and boost pads into automated segments because that's the only way the game can function with customizable physics.
2) it ABSOLUTELY is not the same, the Cyber Space segments are fricking awful because the layouts don't take anything into account.
Yes, it only being optional and the game not being designed around it is bad
t. moronic
>Unleashed gets a low score
Metacritic...le bad!
>Frontiers gets an 8.2
METACRITICGODS WE WON SONIC IS SAVED
Kys shill
fog funk is the best cyberspace song
https://twitter.com/MiaCDi/status/1672492191799754753?t=7DZwvpUYTnPkv4JV4vAlZQ&s=19
>You are now fricking GRATEFUL Arzest is handling Superstars' level design if THIS was the alternative
jesus christ they didn't even try making it look any decent
and it's also a totally worthless out of the way path
it's like just hacked in together using debug mode and called it a day
Did they add a Knuckles' path in Flying Battery Zone too?
What reference in IDW could Ian add that would cause you to completely turn on the comic, vros? I can't think of one myself, but I'm sure there's something.
I don't care about references
You can tell most of the people in this thread don't even read IDW because if they did they'd know the real issue is Ian's insistence that Sonic desperately wants to redeem his villains and doesn't understand that breaks his character
Right. I think an egregious one is Sonic thinking Eggman will turn around, or some shit, but that makes no sense. Wonder if Sega knows what's going on in the comics right now.
It's even dumber since IDW takes place after the games so
>all the shit Eggman did in S1,2,3,CD, SA1, SA2, Unleashed, Colors, Gens, LW, Forces, and the Metal Virus shit and Sonic still pulls the "You can be GOOD! I can feel it!" crap
Sega apparently has a tight reign on the comics according to Ian. It's the reason why Shadow is so awful, they won't let him write him any other way
Can't be that tight. It just seems like they're more concerned with keeping the image of the characters. Though how making Shadow looks like a b***h falls in line with their agenda, I'll never know. At least Sonic's moronic redemption spiel falls under japanese autism writing.
>Can't be that tight.
It literally is. Even the Boom and Prime writers have expressed how much fricking bullshit they have to put up with JUST to write Shadow. And the Boom writers weren't even allowed to use Big or the Chaotix beyond Vector because the mandates behind THEM are somehow even more strict.
Then why are the core 4 mandates so loose?
I mean that scene is totally in line for shadow imo
>I'm the coolest!
>promptly gets ass kicked by sonic
I mean game Shadow is generally a lot smarter outside his own game (even then a lot of that was shit localization). Even in SA2, round 1 is a tie and round 2 Sonic had the fake Enerald giving him a boost.
>You can be GOOD! I can feel it!
Eggman literally spent the first arc as a kind old mechanic.
Yeah, because he had fricking brain damage! That doesn't mean shit, especially when they didn't even flesh it out besides showing Tinker for two whole issues before it was walked back.
And whats even dumber is that Sonic ALSO got amnesia towards the end of the arc, yet nobody uses that as proof that his name is Mr. Needlemouse (ugh).
He doesn't experience an immense personality shift, also the Needlemouse thing wasn't even his own name for himself. Even more alsoly, Needlemouse is a mistranslation and the nickname in japanese was Mr. Hedgehog.
>He doesn't experience an immense personality shift
He's flirting with Blaze with nonstop bedroom eyes, how is that not a personality shift?
>Needlemouse is a mistranslation and the nickname in japanese was Mr. Hedgehog.
Yeah, I know. I groaned because it's just yet another "reference" Ian shoehorned in because that's all he knows how to write anymore.
It's a false equivalence to bring up Sonic's amnesia moment in the context of "nobody uses that as proof that his name is Mr. Needlemouse" because that's completely different from using Eggman's amnesia arc as proof there actually is some potential good in him.
>how is that not a personality shift?
It is, it just isn't as drastic since he usually is a smug shit-talker who does whatever he wants.
>because that's all he knows how to write anymore.
It's worse because I'm pretty sure Marine would have called him by his name as soon as she saw him, but I guess that's beside the point.
And what did he do in the very next arc?
>Release a virus to enslave the entire world's inhabitants as metal zombies
And don't forget he decided to test his virus out on the very village that took him in and cared for him
Everybody goes through an edgy rebellious phase like that. He was trying to bury his past as Tinker, something he feels insecure about because it's a part of himself that he incorrectly sees as wrong.
There's a literal world of difference between "rebellious phase" and crossing the moral event horizon, and Eggman happily crossed to the latter.
He's just misunderstood.
The real problem with IDWnic is how dull it is. Sonic literally can’t lose. The villains are all useless jobbers who never pose any threat. The writers are more interested in queerbaiting Whispangle than telling a fun story.
>Sonic literally can’t lose.
Is there any other company that mandates this?
The Rock and Vin Diesel have a contract where they can’t lose any on-screen fights in their movies.
>Sonic literally can’t lose.
Unlike other media where Sonic never saves the day in the end? Oh wait.
Sonic can’t lose a single fight in IDW. If it looks like he’s going to lose the universe itself will bend to make sure he gets the upper hand.
If the games were under the comic’s mandates Sonic wouldn’t lose to Shadow, Jet, G.U.N., Erazor Djinn, Mephiles, or The Titans.
When has Sonic ever lost to Shadow? It seems like the same BS, and even the uncanon Shadow endings Shadow had a bunch of chaos emeralds so he had a "reason." to lose.
Shadow dunks on him in their first encounter.
>dunks on him
>uses Chaos control to move past Sonic and say his name
uh huh
He got the fastest thing alive to be amazed at his speed, Sonic is still seething about Shadow hours later at Prison Island.
>He got the fastest thing alive to be amazed at his speed
Instantly to go "he's not fast, he's using fricking magic to go fast
And he is, Shadow is fake and thus not creditable. Fricking hate shadtards.
Sonic didn't lose. And the mandate still stands to the end.
>Bottom mid panel
That's not the mandate. Sonic can lose he just has to come back and win.
Sonic is allowed to lose, just not permanently
It's why the premise of the metal virus arc was that he was fricked and had to desperately find a way to win because of that
Sonic never lost a fight in the metal virus arc. Only his friends did.
That's where you're wrong
He took a stumble
And got infected in a fight
With ROUGH & TUMBLE
He never succumbed to his infection. He never lost.
That's an incredible cope if I've ever heard one
The entire point of the fights with Surge is that she's biting off more than she can chew and doesn't stand a chance
She's not meant to be some better-than-Sonic badass, she's an angry child
Surge with her new power-up was able to beat Eggman, Metal Sonic, and Whisper. But mysteriously she turns into one of the three stooges when fighting Sonic with a bum leg. The exact same thing happened with Mecha Sonic with a different writer, Sonic cannot lose a fight even when he has an excuse to.
Sonic has canonical chaos hax. Makes sense
The problem isn't that Sonic can't lose, the problem is how uncreative the comic is when it comes to the fights to where it doesn't feel earned. Combine that with the weirdly serious tone and it's just a slog to read.
>Shadow, Jet, G.U.N., Erazor Djinn, Mephiles, or The Titans.
Like he didn't to any of them?
>Le stabbed in le back in le 6
Still won in the end, so he didn't lose.
If he actually put in the Freedom Fighters I think he would see at least a 50% drop in sales.
physical appearance of an OC in a game.
referencing any comic arcs, ESPECIALLY metal virus.
>Still no option to turn off special moves
>Forced to watch sonic shoot those stupid fricking balls every god damn time I try to use the homing attack
Whoever thought run, jump, and attack should all also double as 20 second cutscene moves should be shot in the balls repeatedly
>Still no option to turn off special moves
>Forced to watch sonic shoot those stupid fricking balls every god damn time I try to use the homing attack
Just turn off Dramatic Battle Skill Camera it plays so much faster after that.
NTA but thank you SO much. I didn't even notice this was in the update.
Yup. There's a good reason why this update is well praised. There are a TON of quality of life fixes in it.
Sonic fans will bend over backwards to defend doing literal chores to unlock basic gameplay features
Are the other characters FULLY playable? If they are locked behind the little bonus stages then frick it.
they update with the other playable characters doesn't come out until later this year
Tails Knuckles and Amy won't be added till Update 3 later this year
Why do people even play Sonic games?
>criticize Frontiers
>Frontiers defense force: BUT NINTENDO
Take a shot every time this happens and you will die of alcohol poisoning
why are sonicgays obsessed with this shit game?
Because the game is good and fun.
This stuff is cool but I can't help but wish it was in the game day 1. Like seriously stop and think about it, they had to patch in the FOCKIN' SPINDASH!
And all the things that make it any fun is shit you have to tinker with in the menu because they couldn't figure out how to make a good game on their own
>what if we made you wall climb in this really awkward camara angle with the chance of falling because sonic read your input as down instead of left
>also ball spikes because frick you
I really REALLY hope the other challenges of these rare kokos are less annoying
>I really REALLY hope the other challenges of these rare kokos are less annoying
Most of the rare koko challenges are really easy. While a handful are actually hard.
Does Shadow have can't lose mandates too?
He is not allowed to lose if he removes his inhibitors, otherwise he's Vegeta and thus the designated jobber for Sonic
I don't think those are canon. Ian said it better himself that Sega changes things all the time and just because something happened back then doesn't mean they want it in the current canon.
Yes they're canon jackass
And I don't care whether they still think that now, because we got a story that was explicitly impacted by them thinking that back then, which they have literally said
You're calling me a jackass yet not even Ian who works directly with Sega thinks it's no longer a thing. They will never show up again.
Ian also literally said that they wanted to have Shadow use his inhibitors to fight the metal zombies but Sega told them no because they didn't want him to lose if he uses them
It literally does not matter if that mandate still exists, because it did before- learn to read or have a nice day, or both
>otherwise he's Vegeta
so he keeps winning?
>so he keeps w-AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
/dbs/ is so embarrassing
>survives a 4 v 1 + a Kamehameha + a spirit bomb on Earth
>still wrecks Goku's shit
>jobs to Zarbon, then Zenkai boosts kills him
>Ginyu-Freeza to make Goku look good
>Goku would also lose to the androids
>Goku would also lose to Cell
>Goku lost to Vegeta during the Buu arc
I win
Ironically hasn't he never lost to Goku 1v1?
-Saiyan Saga he beat Goku. Ape Gohan had to save em
-Buu Saga he KO'd Goku
-Movie Vegeta won the bout against Goku
>had to transform and cheat to beat a tired Goku
>cheated when he told Goku the fight was over so Goku would lower his guard
>Goku smirked at the end of the movie implying he let him win
Goku 3-0
Only the third instance would be the true 1v1 victory, he had to rely on Oozaru during their first fight because he got blasted away by Goku's Kaioken x4 Kamehameha and later on Goku's friends intervened, and on Buu Saga he sucker punched him when they had called a truce. Vegeta only loses to Goku in terms of power progression and he still manages to surpass him here and there his own way.
Anyway, I'm liking the new DLC, I really hope we get Part 3 soon.
>he had to rely on Oozaru
It's his own natural ability, you're bringing that up like it's a cheat somehow.
JOBNIC the hedgehog can't even beat a Motobug, what do you expect??
>SAVE ME TAILS
How the turns tabled
That Motobug has a lustful desire for Sonic
Archie Shadow was never the real Shadow.
Shadow has like 5 different versions tbf
>wienery manipulative shadow in SA2 out for revenge
>brooding edgy team player shadow in Heroes/Shadow out for answers
>tempered stoic shadow in 06/2005-2010 spinoffs/Archie
>edgy "YOU HAVE FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU'RE WEAK!" loner Sega mandated shadow in present/IDW comics
>weird evil king shadow in that garbage future King storyline in archie
You know, that was really cute how you snuck in Archie Shadow in with games Shadow. No, they are separate. SA2 to 06 Shadow is one person who develops throughout those games, they aren't separate. You could potentially argue SA2 Shadow is separate since he gets amnesia after but that's all.
>Archie is different
>doesn't explain why
>says SA2-06 is the same
>next line says SA2 can be considered different
If you're just going to be completely insincere then this conversation is over.
Nothing to say, still waiting for your explanation on why Archie is different.
Don't reply to IDWkun. He's so schizophrenic that actual mental patients are more coherent than him.
>the best interpretation of Shadow was in sonic 06.
This explains why he's not allowed to be like he used to, SEGA is still scared.
>wienery manipulative shadow in SA2 out for revenge
Which wasn't his real personality, as was literally the point of that game's story
>brooding edgy team player shadow in Heroes/Shadow out for answers
Which wasn't his real personality, as was literally the point of those games' stories
>which wasn't his real personality
I don't even know what to say to you bro, if you honestly believe that.
In SA2 he didn't remember his major character development that had already happened by that point and he had to re-develop to get back, and in Heroes/ShTH he literally had amnesia and so was not his true self
He didn't suddenly develop a new personality after he found out the truth in SA2 and Shadow. it changes how a person can view things and even act, but the fundamental core of that person will remain the same. The only reason it didn't from SA2 to Heroes was like you said the amnesia plotline and lack of story, however with the small pieces there he still had his SA2 personality in tact (the Team Sonic vs Team Dark scene, the scene when he encourages Team Sonic while they hold off Metal)
The only reason he lost this entirely in 06 was because the writing was so diluted at that point it affected everybody. Sonic didn't act like how he usually does in that game either, nor did even Eggman or say Rouge.
It's been a constant flaw of bad writing that keeps changing these characters constantly, any inference of storyline reasons is purely utterly coincidental given the rest of the series
I mean, yes, SA2 Shadow is still the same character just given character development, and even amnesia Shadow still displays roughly similar traits just not tempered with that character development
I just have no idea where you're coming from in claiming they're all different versions of the character when their differences are all completely understandable in-universe
I probably could've worded my post better. It's late anyway so w/e
All I know is I hate IDW Shadow
Remember when everyone was saying Sonic's trick and attack animations looked unfinished in the trailers and that those and the pop-in would definitely be fixed when the game released and then the game came out looking exactly the same? Good times.
So basically story 3 is updated titans,new the end complete form and new super form?
Yet they rejected Hyper Sonic. SOJ are clowns, frick them.
They rejected Hyper Sonic because they don't want to fall into the same trap of power creep hell Dragon Ball is currently stuck in. I agree that SoJ are clowns, but that's like the one sensible decision they've made.
Yet they went ahead and still gave him another powerup. They're hypocrites.
And that's stupid too, but at least this seems to be a one time sidegrade like Darkspine Sonic. Hyper Sonic is literally SS2/UI, that is NOT a road Sonic wants to go down.
The whole point of limiting superforms/powerups is because they don't want "powercreep" but don't mind powercreeping every game.
They don't care to give one offs to anyone else or even allow characters who can go super to go super in the games/plot. These people are fricking stupid man.
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https://twitter.com/Robtooon/status/1672610986422042625
Tails spindash.
https://twitter.com/Robtooon/status/1672602452359802884
Knuckles boost
kino
imagine not spindashing
https://twitter.com/Xinerus_Kartin/status/1672696645144723456?t=8EUuAC84qaXXnKqKumtbfg&s=19
>Doesn't slow down up hills, just goes infinitely fast forward like boosting does, but with more floaty air momentum after jumping
I'm so impressed
It does slow up going up hills, sigh but no you just want to shitpost so you wouldn't research I get you
more Amy
https://twitter.com/therealJJ201/status/1672778296935989250?s=20
Oh man I like this update, I'm glad Kishimoto wa-
>"I FRICKING HATE FRONTIERS THIS SHIT SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BASED GAME FRICK YOU"
-s able to listen to our criticisms and didn't just run off-
>"FRONTIERS FRICKING SUCKS WHY ARE YOU PRAISING SEGA FOR THIS YOU FRICKING morons"
-and leave us with a messy game. I can't wait for Update 3 and hope they can fix more stuff in-
>"YOU HAVE TO BE A FRICKING MORON TO LIKE THIS SHIT, I SWEAR TO GOD IF I SEE ONE MORE PERSON LIKING THESE UPDATES I'M GONNA FRICKING KILL Myself"
-the game like the mini boss pop ins or drop dash momentum. Sorry, you doomposters say something?
The updates are a good show of faith, but it is still true that the game should just not be shit on release and they've had decades to learn how to do this shit
>"I FRICKING HATE FRONTIERS THIS SHIT SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE BASED GAME FRICK YOU"
Not wrong though. I literally have been holding off on playing Frontiers for almost a year now because of this DLC shit for this exact reason. NO, Sonic Team, I will NOT beta test your games. And while I'm at it? NO Sonic Team, I will NOT develop your game for you with all this menu movement variable fiddling just to get Sonic to not handle like complete ass.
>B-but it doesn't take that long!
Frick OUTTA here. There's giving the players options and then there's just not being confident in your own core game design. Seriously, how many 3D platformers allow you to do that much movement variable alterations in a menu? Shit's ridiculous.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/hImkkDrRCxZ0eRqNBpigCg/
NTA but c'mon son. Take the L like a man.
>heh I'm gonna wait till Page 10 So I can have the last laugh!
kek what a b***h
New Cyberspace levels coming next update too
https://twitter.com/bluwolfblitz/status/1672691158831579141?t=hS9W3UHmU6oTGb7r7JvzZw&s=19
woooow, more garbage cyber stages, wowie, frontiers is saved
Funny how Ganker enjoys Frontiers more than /sthg/.
I guess that it's because Sonic hate became as autistic as the fans themselves. That and self-deprecation from the fanbase not making it fun to mock them anymore.
They eat shit all the day
>Funny how Ganker enjoys Frontiers more than /sthg/.
Judging by this thread I wouldn't have been able to tell
If you saw /sthg/ you would.
I took a peek, I was wrong.
You'd think people would be happier if ST just left Frontiers like it was and ignored any feedback and did another Forces or some shit
How did /sthg/ become schizo central?
they've been fed so much shit when we finally get good stuff they don't even realize we're out of the dark ages they just keep on complaining like it's 2014
>when we finally get good stuff
Frontiers sure as hell ain't that.
>good stuff
>frontiers
Please play games other than Sonic
Sonicgays are mindbroken by bad releases so much that they think its impossible when an actually decent Sonic game finally gets made
archie/IDW comic autism
You haven't seen nothing yet. Once IDW goes down next year that's it. No more Sonic comics!? They're going unleashed
Its fricking horrible
>added optional physics changes that make the game even more fun
what
you can decelerate your jump now
Basically before you had no momentum when jumping. Now you do. You can also control how quickly you stop it with another optional as well for tighter platforming
I was so confused when I saw spin dashing was added as a feature because I forgot that I grabbed a mod for it back when the game launched, I misremembered and thought the game already had spindashing
anyway, they locked it behind s ranking the cyber stages and I won't touch those with a ten foot pole so I guess i'll pass.
The cyber stages control like hot garbage
yous a lil b***h
It's not locked behind the cyber stages.
They added 40 new challenges to each island called Action Chains. You basically run around under a 40 second time limit boosting and doing tricks to get an S rank. it's very easy to do so.
Once you S rank them all, then you unlock Spindash
>they locked it behind s ranking the cyber stages and I won't touch those with a ten foot pole so I guess i'll pass.
It's locked behind score attack challenges on the open zones.
oh, in that case I appreciate the game's willingness to accommodate and validate my desire to never touch a cyber stage by giving me something else to do
What should i get the PC version? or just emulate the switch version?
>emulate the Switch Version
Literally zero reason to do this. If your PC can emulate Switch it can run Frontiers. Unless you mean in your hacked Switch, in which case there's a demo available on the eshop you can probably find online and download to see the visuals
....
Sorry for answering your question?
Sega shills so hard on Ganker, it's insane. You're not even trying to hide it anymore.
if they do add a different final boss for the new update i hope they get more songs like the other titan boss themes they're bangers
still dogshit
>release game unfinished
>lukewarm reception generated
>add the good stuff later
>no one cares any more
>reputation of the game already set in stone
>sell below expectations
Why do corporations do this? Shooting themselves in the foot. Happened with Bayonetta 3 as well, a lot of the mechanics were given inarguable improvements in a free update that released a couple of months after the game dropped but no one cared because the yoe had faded.
sonic won
Doomposters lost AGAIN
Yup.
I want to kneel but what the heck is that ugly filter
there's way too much clutter on the ground for how sonic moves, it doesn't have to be as janky as it is
Even more janky than SA1, incredible
>Sonic still runs like he's glued to the damn floor
Okay, but that's obviously a mod.
It's not. It's the new update thanks to the new jump physics and QoL changes
Anon, come on, everyone can check the archives
>fake screenshot
how sad
>lying about the updates to shill the game and make it look better than it is
This is low, even for Sonicgays.
>jankier than SA1
Does it have good levels taht last more than 3 minutes yet?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/hImkkDrRCxZ0eRqNBpigCg/