>The battle system is entirely unique.
oh wow... entirely unique... i;m so hooked by this product description i must know more about his unique battle system
every game freak game that isn't pokemon sucks shit, tembo the badass elephant is another example
go look at giga wrecker on steam, it was in early access and then got ported to switch in an upgraded version which had absolutely zero of its upgrades retroactively applied to the pc version plus a bunch of early access promises simply never happened, and on top of this the game is absolute dogshit and feels like a bad flash game in level design and gameplay
the secret is that this entire company is full of incompetent fricking morons who are only able to keep pokemon games functioning because of the sheer manpower they throw at them, when it comes to individual small projects they completely shit the bed every time
Drill Dozer should've been GF's flagship franchise, or at the very least been their other non-Pokemon franchise so they didn't have to continue the path of soulless busy work.
>that isn't Pokemon
Pokemon is shit too.
GameFreak struck gold with gen 1. Luckily their awful programming wasn't too noticeable to the naked eye and fans loved Missingno.
Gen 2 needed Iwata to step in
Gen 3 dropped a shit ton of features because GameFreak is inept
Gen 4 and onward are just shit.
>shitting on Harmoknight
I'm not even a tendie, but I'm a huge sucker for rhythm games and that was a real fun one. Had a gitaroo man vibe to it, so it was good in my book.
This was the first gameplay footage I ever saw of Tembo.
every game freak game that isn't pokemon sucks shit, tembo the badass elephant is another example
go look at giga wrecker on steam, it was in early access and then got ported to switch in an upgraded version which had absolutely zero of its upgrades retroactively applied to the pc version plus a bunch of early access promises simply never happened, and on top of this the game is absolute dogshit and feels like a bad flash game in level design and gameplay
the secret is that this entire company is full of incompetent fricking morons who are only able to keep pokemon games functioning because of the sheer manpower they throw at them, when it comes to individual small projects they completely shit the bed every time
Harmoknight gave me expectations for gen 6 since it's art style wasn't too bad for their first 3d game and ran at 60 fps both in 3d and not.
Then X and Y comes out and all of it's art looks washed out, runs like shit, and the 3d doesn't even work in the overworld and in battle it can make the frames drop to single digits.
Game Freak is still the same incompetent sped house it was when one man optimized GS enough to fit Kanto in. They haven't improved meaningfully, in at least some departments, they've become worse. Genius Sonority games stopped because they were making Game Freak look bad. Twenty years in the industry with only one series to boast about isn't impressive, never mind a series as basic and stagnant as Pokemon. Add to that the series being past its prime and having this weird identity crisis? Sure, Pokemon will continue to sell, morons can't help themselves, but it's far too late for Game Freak to be a respected name.
someone on /vp/ posted a trailer for Dragon Quest 11 on switch, that game not only looks miles better even have a retro pixel mode which can be turned on and off at will (you can play the whole game like that).
it is clear Gamefreak can't do shit as cool as that no matter how much money they made.
Look at One Piece Odyssey, this is a game that's done by the same people who the did the DP remake people like to shit one.
Look what they can do when not tied down by Pokemon's bullshit
It's very clear and obvious something is wrong with Pokemon's development, and it's only getting worse
It’s because Pokemon has a shitload of moving parts, every monster game that tries to be like Pokemon ends up at the same rough level of quality because there’s just too many animations etc
I was just thinking the other day. "You know how everyone lost their shit back in the day when they found out Gold/Silver had all of Kanto in the game? Modern Pokemon fans would STILL lose their shit if the new pokemon let them go to an 8-bit Kanto, that's how low the standards are here, Game Freak wouldn't even have to make a single 3D model, just port the original 8 bit Kanto into the new game with minor tweaks to make the pokemon compatible with modern IVs and movesets".
Pokegays were losing their shit that the newest Pokemon models got updated textures and were delusional to think they were brand new models, that is how low their standards are.
Literally nobody thinks they are new models as in new skeletons rigs etc built from the ground up,
Some moronic spokesperson said the overhead on redoing models every game had become unsustainable and people ran with it as “Gamefreak lied to me”
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh no, I remember arguing with tards who genuinely believed that before the game was released.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Before the game released nobody had the ability to look at it in any detail. In the end I think a handful had minor edits to their skeletons but it just doesn’t matter, the entire thing was autistic nitpicking over what a “model” is
I am willing to believe that gamefreak hold them back to not rise people expectations on what Pokemon could be.
let's be honest inovation is not pokemon's main selling point just add 150+ new mons on a new map that's all it have been done from 9 generations.
yep, now you have to pray your favorite Pokemon is in the game or hope for DLC (so you can give them more money), also found a nice video comparation for DQ11:
you can say whatever about Square-enix but they DO care about their stronger franchises.
Because gamefreak sucks, the game itself looks generic and boring both visually and combat wise as well.
Pokemon looks like shit too, especially nowadays (it's pretty clear gamefreak isn't capable of working in modern 3D at all), the only reason it sells so much is because its pokemon.
Pokemon sells because it's Pokemon, GF is entierly incidental at this point and soley here because of legacy alone. They could be replaced by any number of diffrent dev teams and nothing would change
What happened with their character designers in the past few years? Alola had stinkers, but it still had some decent Pokemon designs. Every Pokemon after that has been shit. I know it's trite and been said for every gen, but designs from the last two gens don't even look like Pokemon anymore. Sword and Shield at least had some good human designs, along with absolute trash, but SV doesn't even have that. I can't imagine they laid off all the old designers, so what happened? New management signing off on the designs? Influx of new blood? Some drama with Creatures?
She's ugly as shit, dude, who are you kidding? Yeah, on paper, a pushy tanned tomboy oneesan with dialogue like she has is absolute boner fuel, but her design fricking sucks.
Agree to disagree, I guess, but the SV art style in general is awful. Don't know how they let those awful school uniforms past the drawing board, though, can't disagree there. The Spanish school's uniforms in GuP are better, and they're pretty fricking basic.
>SV art style in general is awful
It's already miles better than SS's artstyle though.
>Don't know how they let those awful school uniforms past the drawing board
That's literally because you're in a school, not those American schools where they just let you wear whatever you want. And even then, the uniforms were also part of the version gimmick with the colour schemes. It's meant to establish that you are in a school setting, not the usual Pokemon standard fare.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It's already miles better than SS's artstyle though.
Frick no. You can shit on on SWSH for a lot reasons, most of them valid. But you cannot look at me and say the artstyle was one of them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I wasn't insulting using school uniforms, I mentioned better school uniforms in the fricking post. I'm saying the designs they went with suck. Japan knows school uniforms. Sailor fuku and gakuran look good. Those old pre-fuku uniforms, even better. Those actual proper school uniforms with blazer and tie? Better than I see in my shitty country. They know good school uniform design. I get that this shit is meant to look more explorer-esque, given the whole school trip thing, but it just isn't good.
gamefreak in general just feel like a downward spiral case, where all the old blood that care are gone. So there's no one to keep quality in check, and any new blood that try to make a difference, realize their effort will just get lost in the greater machine anyway.
So everyone is just doing the bare minimum for a paycheck, because nothing else matters.
GF is still a respected company in the industry for some reason. Toby working with them only helps his credit and plants his feet in the industry even more than he has.
Frick, I would bet money it through working with GF that eventually led him to getting referenced in Smash
Nobody enjoys the mainline Pokemon games. They enjoy Pokemon.
I play Pokemon for the pvp battles and collecting and I feel like I’m talking to aliens on /vp/ >dude Smogon >dude everyone online just uses the good Pokemon
If you mention YIIK to a thousand people, you'll get 990 "What the hell is YIIK?" and a load of ridicule, maybe some bile. Mention Pokemon to a thousand people, you'll get recognition from all of them, most of it positive. Even if the games are dogshit now, it's probably a childhood dream for him to be able to say he worked on Pokemon. He can tell his family about it etc. He can get work off the back of it.
>The battle system is entirely unique.
oh wow... entirely unique... i;m so hooked by this product description i must know more about his unique battle system
Because is not pokemon.
Ugly characters and boring battle system
Game Freak are incompetent morons that are only still existing because of the Pokémon IP.
LAMEfreak realized that their games are mediocre and they suck at making games
pokecrap only sells due to nostalgia homosexualry
Pokemon only sell because its name, not because its good.
plus, do you really think Gamefreak has any talent? when they can not even finish the next new game in their biggest franchise?
every game freak game that isn't pokemon sucks shit, tembo the badass elephant is another example
go look at giga wrecker on steam, it was in early access and then got ported to switch in an upgraded version which had absolutely zero of its upgrades retroactively applied to the pc version plus a bunch of early access promises simply never happened, and on top of this the game is absolute dogshit and feels like a bad flash game in level design and gameplay
the secret is that this entire company is full of incompetent fricking morons who are only able to keep pokemon games functioning because of the sheer manpower they throw at them, when it comes to individual small projects they completely shit the bed every time
>who are only able to keep pokemon games functioning because of the sheer manpower they throw at them
you sure about that?
>pokeball go--D DAMNIT MY ARM!
>every game freak game that isn't pokemon sucks shit,
Shut your fricking mouth
The 1 HP hard mode was great, you would get so spoiled from health upgrades and tanking everything in normal mode and then get your ass kicked
Drill Dozer should've been GF's flagship franchise, or at the very least been their other non-Pokemon franchise so they didn't have to continue the path of soulless busy work.
Modern pokemon games also suck shit but the fans will eat up any shit.
Same as Warhammer 40k fans and blizzdrones.
>that isn't Pokemon
Pokemon is shit too.
GameFreak struck gold with gen 1. Luckily their awful programming wasn't too noticeable to the naked eye and fans loved Missingno.
Gen 2 needed Iwata to step in
Gen 3 dropped a shit ton of features because GameFreak is inept
Gen 4 and onward are just shit.
Whoa, stop right here, what "shitton of features" gen 3 dropped?
Wrong
it was too hard
pure kino
i'd kill for a switch port
>shitting on Harmoknight
I'm not even a tendie, but I'm a huge sucker for rhythm games and that was a real fun one. Had a gitaroo man vibe to it, so it was good in my book.
you think pokeshitters have any loyalty? nope lol. they don't give af about gamefreaks at all. they only care about pokeshit
Remember the time Game Freak released that elephant game on Steam and it wouldn’t run because they had a typo in the executable
Good times
This was the first gameplay footage I ever saw of Tembo.
Harmoknight also came out alright.
Harmoknight gave me expectations for gen 6 since it's art style wasn't too bad for their first 3d game and ran at 60 fps both in 3d and not.
Then X and Y comes out and all of it's art looks washed out, runs like shit, and the 3d doesn't even work in the overworld and in battle it can make the frames drop to single digits.
Toby Fox did the whole soundtrack too and he's basically worshiped. Jesus
It's almost like they aren't good at their job and are only successful because morons buy anything that has the Pokemon name on it
Game Freak is still the same incompetent sped house it was when one man optimized GS enough to fit Kanto in. They haven't improved meaningfully, in at least some departments, they've become worse. Genius Sonority games stopped because they were making Game Freak look bad. Twenty years in the industry with only one series to boast about isn't impressive, never mind a series as basic and stagnant as Pokemon. Add to that the series being past its prime and having this weird identity crisis? Sure, Pokemon will continue to sell, morons can't help themselves, but it's far too late for Game Freak to be a respected name.
Pokemon sells well in spite of Gamefreak, not because of them. They might be the absolute worst long running company still making games today.
Pokemon/Game Freak should have never left the 2nd dimension, apparently.
>the sprite games still look good for the most part
>all of the 3D games already look shit
Why'd they shift to 3D if it's clearly beyond them?
someone on /vp/ posted a trailer for Dragon Quest 11 on switch, that game not only looks miles better even have a retro pixel mode which can be turned on and off at will (you can play the whole game like that).
it is clear Gamefreak can't do shit as cool as that no matter how much money they made.
Look at One Piece Odyssey, this is a game that's done by the same people who the did the DP remake people like to shit one.
Look what they can do when not tied down by Pokemon's bullshit
It's very clear and obvious something is wrong with Pokemon's development, and it's only getting worse
It’s because Pokemon has a shitload of moving parts, every monster game that tries to be like Pokemon ends up at the same rough level of quality because there’s just too many animations etc
>Look what they can do when not tied down by Pokemon's bullshit
A shitty shovelware game?
better than Gamefreak's AAA games
I was just thinking the other day. "You know how everyone lost their shit back in the day when they found out Gold/Silver had all of Kanto in the game? Modern Pokemon fans would STILL lose their shit if the new pokemon let them go to an 8-bit Kanto, that's how low the standards are here, Game Freak wouldn't even have to make a single 3D model, just port the original 8 bit Kanto into the new game with minor tweaks to make the pokemon compatible with modern IVs and movesets".
Pokegays were losing their shit that the newest Pokemon models got updated textures and were delusional to think they were brand new models, that is how low their standards are.
Literally nobody thinks they are new models as in new skeletons rigs etc built from the ground up,
Some moronic spokesperson said the overhead on redoing models every game had become unsustainable and people ran with it as “Gamefreak lied to me”
Oh no, I remember arguing with tards who genuinely believed that before the game was released.
Before the game released nobody had the ability to look at it in any detail. In the end I think a handful had minor edits to their skeletons but it just doesn’t matter, the entire thing was autistic nitpicking over what a “model” is
I am willing to believe that gamefreak hold them back to not rise people expectations on what Pokemon could be.
let's be honest inovation is not pokemon's main selling point just add 150+ new mons on a new map that's all it have been done from 9 generations.
yep, now you have to pray your favorite Pokemon is in the game or hope for DLC (so you can give them more money), also found a nice video comparation for DQ11:
you can say whatever about Square-enix but they DO care about their stronger franchises.
>Franchise goes downhill t the second it goes to 3D
Hm, I wonder where I've heard that one before
GF would be bankrupt in the 2000s if it wasn't for pokemon
Because gamefreak sucks, the game itself looks generic and boring both visually and combat wise as well.
Pokemon looks like shit too, especially nowadays (it's pretty clear gamefreak isn't capable of working in modern 3D at all), the only reason it sells so much is because its pokemon.
Pokemon sells in spite of Gamefreaks, not thanks to them.
Pokemon sells because it's Pokemon, GF is entierly incidental at this point and soley here because of legacy alone. They could be replaced by any number of diffrent dev teams and nothing would change
you could replace 90% of gamefreak by Ai and no one would notice, I dare to say Pokemon is the easiest game to replacate by Ai at this point.
i wonder how many JP Gamefreak people are embarrassed to say they work there.
Surely most japs feel the same way about them as the west does?
Yes. Doesn't mean it doesn't still sell there too
What happened with their character designers in the past few years? Alola had stinkers, but it still had some decent Pokemon designs. Every Pokemon after that has been shit. I know it's trite and been said for every gen, but designs from the last two gens don't even look like Pokemon anymore. Sword and Shield at least had some good human designs, along with absolute trash, but SV doesn't even have that. I can't imagine they laid off all the old designers, so what happened? New management signing off on the designs? Influx of new blood? Some drama with Creatures?
Nemona
Who is not even the most popular SV girl, pic related is, followed by Rika.
Who as far as I'm concerned is the only Pokegirl worth a damn in SV
She's ugly as shit, dude, who are you kidding? Yeah, on paper, a pushy tanned tomboy oneesan with dialogue like she has is absolute boner fuel, but her design fricking sucks.
Come on anon, she is not ugly but the fricking disgusting school uniform really nerfs her potential.
Agree to disagree, I guess, but the SV art style in general is awful. Don't know how they let those awful school uniforms past the drawing board, though, can't disagree there. The Spanish school's uniforms in GuP are better, and they're pretty fricking basic.
>SV art style in general is awful
It's already miles better than SS's artstyle though.
>Don't know how they let those awful school uniforms past the drawing board
That's literally because you're in a school, not those American schools where they just let you wear whatever you want. And even then, the uniforms were also part of the version gimmick with the colour schemes. It's meant to establish that you are in a school setting, not the usual Pokemon standard fare.
>It's already miles better than SS's artstyle though.
Frick no. You can shit on on SWSH for a lot reasons, most of them valid. But you cannot look at me and say the artstyle was one of them.
I wasn't insulting using school uniforms, I mentioned better school uniforms in the fricking post. I'm saying the designs they went with suck. Japan knows school uniforms. Sailor fuku and gakuran look good. Those old pre-fuku uniforms, even better. Those actual proper school uniforms with blazer and tie? Better than I see in my shitty country. They know good school uniform design. I get that this shit is meant to look more explorer-esque, given the whole school trip thing, but it just isn't good.
gamefreak in general just feel like a downward spiral case, where all the old blood that care are gone. So there's no one to keep quality in check, and any new blood that try to make a difference, realize their effort will just get lost in the greater machine anyway.
So everyone is just doing the bare minimum for a paycheck, because nothing else matters.
Nobody enjoys the mainline Pokemon games. They enjoy Pokemon.
I enjoy the pokemon girls, I don't care about anything else in pokemon anymore.
Crazy how Tobias Fox removed his credit for making music for YIIK but will stand for his name being on this one
GF is still a respected company in the industry for some reason. Toby working with them only helps his credit and plants his feet in the industry even more than he has.
Frick, I would bet money it through working with GF that eventually led him to getting referenced in Smash
yeah but like, it kind of shows where his morals are, you know? Like he's not "one of us" anymore, idk
You gotta spend money to make money. I don't blame Toby for taking the jobs, if I were in his position I would've done the same.
If you think "one of us" would keep their credit on fricking YIIK you're delusional
Your gonna make me yiik out bro
Yiik is based though
I play Pokemon for the pvp battles and collecting and I feel like I’m talking to aliens on /vp/
>dude Smogon
>dude everyone online just uses the good Pokemon
If you mention YIIK to a thousand people, you'll get 990 "What the hell is YIIK?" and a load of ridicule, maybe some bile. Mention Pokemon to a thousand people, you'll get recognition from all of them, most of it positive. Even if the games are dogshit now, it's probably a childhood dream for him to be able to say he worked on Pokemon. He can tell his family about it etc. He can get work off the back of it.
When I saw the battle screen, I couldn't even understand what the frick you're supposed to do.
Like, what's even the purpose of selecting worded bubbles to defeat a enemy, when they're not even explained properly?
It's like a child trying to make a card game without even being able to learn how to read the cards.
>that review who sucked off GF so hard and defended SwSh’s honor
>first comment took a shit on him
Sad
Gamefreak only makes shit games.
Imagine thinking anyone would be interested in their trash if you remove "Pokemon" from the title.
>tfw imagining how much better Pokemon would be if they were owned by quite literally any other dev studio