As far as I'm aware, Gadgetron and GrummelNet do not assist the antagonist in any way.
Megacorp only did so because their CEO was kidnapped, locked in a supply closet, impersonated and framed by a celebrity superhero who wanted to save a galaxy from a crisis he orchestrated.
The funny thing is that R&C2 spends the entire game showing that MegaCorp is pure evil, having a complete total legal monopoly on literally everything and constantly kill people or destroy entire planets out of laziness or incompetence.
And of all their problems Qwark was only responsible for one problem. But at end of game you just rescue Fizzwidget and accept a free apartment from him, and every other atrocity you’ve seen is just forgotten or forgiven.
At worst, Megacorp is responsible for turning Tabora into a desert, which isn't even close to the shit Drek did or the shit Nefarious tried to do in Ratchet 3 alone, it's arguably less than what Vox did.
Aside from that, Ratchet 2 actually contradicts itself on if Megacorp bad, one of the passages in the weapon vendor is heavy implication that employees are forced to work under threat of two kinds of termination, but that is literally what the actual jobs are on Todano, testbots (and later Qwark) test products to make sure they aren't dangerous for consumers and Todano is an armory so of course they'd test and guard weapons there.
Even the squirrels on Todano aren't any more of a frick up than Gadgetron's experimental pet left behind on Barlow.
Ratchet 2 in general has the worst written story on the PS2, like with Ratchet 1, half the game doesn't happen if the plot hole is acknowledged but Ratchet 2 doesn't have the heart or the character to make up for it.
Point is, at the end of the story, Megacorp is treated as on the side of the good guys, your evil corporations are Vox Industries and Pollyx Industries.
Tri-Optimum is actually kind of scummy in some aspects (according to official side material from the remake people who score 91-100 Ys on pic related will automatically get promoted to Executives) but they'll cooperate with the Hacker to beat SHODAN and are willing to lose a trillion-dollar space station since they recognized the threat she poses. After the whole ordeal they even want to offer the Hacker a job.
You have to be a moron to think they're "good" in any way. They literally programmed an AI by making it experience traumatic life experiences like getting cheated on then wondered why it hates people now. Hell, executive level showed that the majority of the managers were willing to allow everyone else to die by betrayal if it meant they could join Diego and rule over everyone. Also their cooperation with the Hacker is not in good faith. They just found the perfect scapegoat to clean up their mess and which is why they are willing to blow up their own station. The PR from them creating a genocidal AI is worse than losing money. The job offer is such an obvious bait to keep loose ends like the Hacker monitored. Of course he declined
SHODAN hates people because it literally had every single restraint removed, every flashback prior to that showed it as pretty benign and since the traumatic experiences were part of setting an "optimal" mental stability it's safe to assume that its extreme mental instability and hatred is caused by all the changes to its restraints rather than because it always hated people.
They aren't scapegoating the Hacker but they did dictate the terms of "help us and we won't try to punish you" and they actually intended to uphold their end of the deal instead of saying "we lied, you are a pariah now, we'll blow you up now".
The hacker is still presumably monitored but in SS1 the Hacker was hacking Tetracorp instead of TriOptimum which is a rival megacorp. He didn't join presumably because he still wants to be a free hacker and not a white hat employee.
You're deflecting because you can't deal with the facts. That being that megacorporations are entirely stable, and America, having them, has lasted longer than 99% of nations and empires thus far.
>like no bro you don't get it you need to pay for air >this won't affect anyone's ability to live besides everyone who does not go by the insane inflation "economy" >a fox kills to live with no other nonsense or excuses
completely two different things
corporations are like women they tell you the truth but only if you pay attention and realize what's a lie
This is bull. I know someone who works in these factories, and you know what they say is worse than making a dollar a day? Not making a dollar a day and watching your family starve to death.
Megacorps aren't animals with limited knowledge, I seriously don't understand why anyone except people at the top would defend them. Is it cope to avoid the soul crushing reality of how bad things are?
FE4. Turns out when you stop burning people with the blood of an evil dragon at the stake and try to let them into society they end up creating the anti-christ and start going around hunting children for satanic sacrifices and shits and giggles.
not japanese but i was shocked how at no point did this try to paint "the light" in a negative way, faith is rewarded and even if your religious dudes turn out the be dicks their faith is literally always an upside
Dragon quest does this the most consistently, they obviously have done the "church is evil" trope too, but more often than not the church is considered at least a positive force in the world
>Galactic Federation is on the verge of defeat in a war with an exclusively human and xenophobic rebel faction
The central message of FTL is literally "diversity is our strength"
Disney is a good example of this.
Dude was fighting off a hostile israeli takeover of his company for most of his time, and just look at it now that they've taken over
>JRPG where Religion is a major plot device >The head priest is implied to be one of the strongest people alive >The Church aren't the villains, the priest is a total bro La Pucelle.
Evil is the go-to descriptor for the mentally underdeveloped.
They want to make money, not steamroll ten thousand puppies while they feast on a bucket of fetuses.
They would absolutely steamroll ten thousands of puppies if it made them money. That's the whole point. They don't care about anything except profits. It's why your food keeps getting less healthy because it's cheaper for them to make.
Is a crow evil for eating baby animals?
Is a rabbit evil for eating it's brood when the going is tough?
It's risk vs reward. Sadly, people cry on the internet about corporations being evil instead of doing what is needed to promote changes for the betterment of everyone.
Our complacency is what got us here.
>It's why your food keeps getting less healthy because it's cheaper for them to make.
They merely supply what the people demand.
You brainlets wanted cheap food, and reply with "so what?" when being told that the food is unhealthy as frick
Name 3
Pokemon RSE (Devon Corp)
Pokemon RBY (Silph Co.)
Pokemon (series) (Pokemon League)
breddy gud
Devon Corp literally used pokemons life energy as a power supply and left and abandoned facility in the ocean
Gadgetron
Megacorp
GrummelNet
hmmm...
As far as I'm aware, Gadgetron and GrummelNet do not assist the antagonist in any way.
Megacorp only did so because their CEO was kidnapped, locked in a supply closet, impersonated and framed by a celebrity superhero who wanted to save a galaxy from a crisis he orchestrated.
The funny thing is that R&C2 spends the entire game showing that MegaCorp is pure evil, having a complete total legal monopoly on literally everything and constantly kill people or destroy entire planets out of laziness or incompetence.
And of all their problems Qwark was only responsible for one problem. But at end of game you just rescue Fizzwidget and accept a free apartment from him, and every other atrocity you’ve seen is just forgotten or forgiven.
homie what.
At worst, Megacorp is responsible for turning Tabora into a desert, which isn't even close to the shit Drek did or the shit Nefarious tried to do in Ratchet 3 alone, it's arguably less than what Vox did.
Aside from that, Ratchet 2 actually contradicts itself on if Megacorp bad, one of the passages in the weapon vendor is heavy implication that employees are forced to work under threat of two kinds of termination, but that is literally what the actual jobs are on Todano, testbots (and later Qwark) test products to make sure they aren't dangerous for consumers and Todano is an armory so of course they'd test and guard weapons there.
Even the squirrels on Todano aren't any more of a frick up than Gadgetron's experimental pet left behind on Barlow.
Ratchet 2 in general has the worst written story on the PS2, like with Ratchet 1, half the game doesn't happen if the plot hole is acknowledged but Ratchet 2 doesn't have the heart or the character to make up for it.
Point is, at the end of the story, Megacorp is treated as on the side of the good guys, your evil corporations are Vox Industries and Pollyx Industries.
Your media reading ability must be that of a 9 year old
Subnautica
Kaibacorp
Junes
Tactics Ogre
Dragon Age
>Kaibacorp
Kaibacorp is maliciously, apocalyptically incompetent.
Cyberpunk 2020
Cyberpunk RED
Cyberpunk 2077
Tri-Optimum is actually kind of scummy in some aspects (according to official side material from the remake people who score 91-100 Ys on pic related will automatically get promoted to Executives) but they'll cooperate with the Hacker to beat SHODAN and are willing to lose a trillion-dollar space station since they recognized the threat she poses. After the whole ordeal they even want to offer the Hacker a job.
You have to be a moron to think they're "good" in any way. They literally programmed an AI by making it experience traumatic life experiences like getting cheated on then wondered why it hates people now. Hell, executive level showed that the majority of the managers were willing to allow everyone else to die by betrayal if it meant they could join Diego and rule over everyone. Also their cooperation with the Hacker is not in good faith. They just found the perfect scapegoat to clean up their mess and which is why they are willing to blow up their own station. The PR from them creating a genocidal AI is worse than losing money. The job offer is such an obvious bait to keep loose ends like the Hacker monitored. Of course he declined
SHODAN hates people because it literally had every single restraint removed, every flashback prior to that showed it as pretty benign and since the traumatic experiences were part of setting an "optimal" mental stability it's safe to assume that its extreme mental instability and hatred is caused by all the changes to its restraints rather than because it always hated people.
They aren't scapegoating the Hacker but they did dictate the terms of "help us and we won't try to punish you" and they actually intended to uphold their end of the deal instead of saying "we lied, you are a pariah now, we'll blow you up now".
The hacker is still presumably monitored but in SS1 the Hacker was hacking Tetracorp instead of TriOptimum which is a rival megacorp. He didn't join presumably because he still wants to be a free hacker and not a white hat employee.
Disco Elysium
RobCo
Sarif Industries
...yeah that's all I got
megacorporations aren't evil in the same way that a fox that ate all the rabbits around, thus dooming the ecosystem and eventually itself, isn't evil
True, but the people who are in charge of them can use them for evil things. Go look up what the former CEO of Nestle said about water kek
Megacorporations are perfectly stable, commie. America's had megacorporations for longer than the Roman Empire survived.
if that's true then ban bailouts/buybacks and see how long they last without taking the economy down with them
>if you saw your feet off, then your legs won't work without taking you down!
How insightful.
>bailouts
>legs
bailouts are literally the tax payers carrying them
If they take the economy down with them, then that means they have too much power in the first place that they shouldnt have had
How do the
>Megacorporations are yummy chungus you commie
and
>Megacorporations are run by gigajews, see this infograph
people interact
You're deflecting because you can't deal with the facts. That being that megacorporations are entirely stable, and America, having them, has lasted longer than 99% of nations and empires thus far.
US only has a 247 year history. There are nations with far longer histories than that.
Please, don't expect an American to be educated about anything outside of his county.
Frick off, Black person.
>corporations are run by israelites!
but also
>coporations are le good because liberals hate them
>like no bro you don't get it you need to pay for air
>this won't affect anyone's ability to live besides everyone who does not go by the insane inflation "economy"
>a fox kills to live with no other nonsense or excuses
completely two different things
corporations are like women they tell you the truth but only if you pay attention and realize what's a lie
This is bull. I know someone who works in these factories, and you know what they say is worse than making a dollar a day? Not making a dollar a day and watching your family starve to death.
>eats all the money around, thus dooming economy
Megacorps aren't animals with limited knowledge, I seriously don't understand why anyone except people at the top would defend them. Is it cope to avoid the soul crushing reality of how bad things are?
>japanese game has religion
>they're not actually evil
name 2
Dragon Quest
Dragon Warrior
FE4. Turns out when you stop burning people with the blood of an evil dragon at the stake and try to let them into society they end up creating the anti-christ and start going around hunting children for satanic sacrifices and shits and giggles.
not japanese but i was shocked how at no point did this try to paint "the light" in a negative way, faith is rewarded and even if your religious dudes turn out the be dicks their faith is literally always an upside
I was pretty surprised too. I expected the game to have some twist about the light being the real evil but it didn't
>You're some kind of being that too dangerous for the world
>The religious homies has decided your fate
Dragon quest does this the most consistently, they obviously have done the "church is evil" trope too, but more often than not the church is considered at least a positive force in the world
>an ancient evil has gone to sleep
Genron is the epitome of pure evil.
>game has a resistance fighting a central government
>the government are actually the good guys
name 2 of each
Far Cry 4
in FE6 the resistance trying to overthrow the kingdom is actually evil and you ally with the church to take them down before moving to the evil empire
FTL
I forgot, why are they bad?
Their central ideology says ayys bad.
>Galactic Federation is on the verge of defeat in a war with an exclusively human and xenophobic rebel faction
The central message of FTL is literally "diversity is our strength"
Any game set in WW2 europe
>Ultimate General: American Revolution
>Empire vs Rebels game
>The empire are actually the good guys
>game has shopkeeper
>he's not actually evil
I want to believe most corpos don't start evil but they eventually break bad
Disney is a good example of this.
Dude was fighting off a hostile israeli takeover of his company for most of his time, and just look at it now that they've taken over
and google
arguably false and a glow-op from the get go, but dropping the "don't be evil" motto really prefaced the change for things to come
Case can be made for the UAC in Doom 2016/eternal.
>JRPG where Religion is a major plot device
>The head priest is implied to be one of the strongest people alive
>The Church aren't the villains, the priest is a total bro
La Pucelle.
Evil is the go-to descriptor for the mentally underdeveloped.
They want to make money, not steamroll ten thousand puppies while they feast on a bucket of fetuses.
They would absolutely steamroll ten thousands of puppies if it made them money. That's the whole point. They don't care about anything except profits. It's why your food keeps getting less healthy because it's cheaper for them to make.
Is a crow evil for eating baby animals?
Is a rabbit evil for eating it's brood when the going is tough?
It's risk vs reward. Sadly, people cry on the internet about corporations being evil instead of doing what is needed to promote changes for the betterment of everyone.
Our complacency is what got us here.
>It's why your food keeps getting less healthy because it's cheaper for them to make.
They merely supply what the people demand.
You brainlets wanted cheap food, and reply with "so what?" when being told that the food is unhealthy as frick
>game has companions
>they don't assist you at all