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last time they actually care?
You can't stop can you
kek, first time posted this tho
guess you got answer already
Nvidia hasn't cared for gayman for years, professional GPUs have moronic margins and companies need them in hundreds.
Prove it sell all your GPUs to the companies
Professional GPUs, moron, not consumer ones.
Most company use normal GPUs only the big boys buy that crap
Honestly, I don't understand why they still sell cards for gaming, or even Solidworks.
You just proved his point.
Almost half of their revenue comes from selling GPU'S for gaming. To say Nvidia doesn't care about gaming is silly Anon.
They made so much from gaming cards even with the cards barely selling. jfc the margins must be absolutely insane
They include mining into gaming, because they put all consumer cards as "gaming", there was a huge uproar or whatever when they did it. They recently announced like 10% drop in revenue due to crypto crash.
This, they actually got in trouble iirc for doing it. It was considered misleading investkra
Post the updated chart where the gaming division has lost 50% of its revenue.
Seems like gaming is a lot if money? Whats the point here? They need to soet their shit out soon or intel will just dominate them before they know it
They're predicting their AI sales to go to $11 billion in the next quarter, that's why their stock has shot up. Their consumer GPU business isn't a small amount of business, but clearly they're moving to where the most money is going to be in the next few years as everyone tries to build the biggest and best AI cluster
The R&D for vidya is what allows the companies to do what they do elsewhere.
Does anyone seriously think home computers would have got to where they are if gaming wasn't the reason to buy bigger and better? Most people never needed more than basic text/spreadsheet/calculator editing and a basic set of visual capabilities for, later, browsing the web.
When gaming stops making them constant money every few years then these big influxes will mater. These big influxes are using tech made for gaming. If they stop caring about games, AMD wins more than they recently have in CPU but then in GPU. Then new markets won't care to use Nvidia since it will be the worse option or slower.
bud light didn't lose anything from your shitty boycott
and boycotting nvidia won't do shit
boycotts never fricking work
They did but you can't I quit smoking you can't quit one company you are an addict
genuinely happy you quit smoking, but boycotts still dont work
they do nothing
Who told you that?
Your tv?
You actually believe no company has ever gone bankrupt?
This is a commodity you can play old games or go AMD.
If you can't then you have a big problem.
If you don't even try to respond to the insult you will get treated worse in the future.
These idiots made billions from us.
inbev admitted the boycott is hurting them and also said they don't know why it's still going on
did they really?
I can't exactly blame them for expecting the rage to blow over if often does
I mean Nike was meme cancelled, so was Gilette but nobody gives a shit today. I think it's just because Bud Light is shit and nobody but boomers buy it in the first place
These idiots will go right back to drinking Bud and Miller when the 4th July rolls round.
But what if the don't.
Also gamer's just can't
i dont even know what the ad was
troony on the cans
lot harder to ignore when it's right in your hands
They put a troony on the can lmao
oh i thought it was an ad
they actually changed the can? did they think it would sell more beer?
They hired a female CEO...
Now fired
Isn't she just on paid leave?
Did they claim it was just meant to be a "personalized promo can" before or after sales dropped?
They worked with some troony influencer to sell more beer to young people and gave him a personalized can as a promo item, so no they're not selling cans with his face on it. Then in a move that should shock no one, a lot of people who normally drink beer also hate trannies and homos and were pissed off about it, so they backed down pissing off trannies as well and in the end everyone is now pissed off at them.
The only winning move is not to play.
This is correct. Politics don't belong in your business. Your business does belong in politics, though, funnily enough. If you want to succeed, anyway.
These people are nuts, it's like putting a bass fishing champion as cover person and promoter for Elle magazine.
They also lost their EGS score over that, ironically. Because they didn't defend themselves enough against their own userbase.
Stock are failing, EGS is failing, sells are failing. It's almost enough to make me feel something in my cold, empty heart.
>bud light didn't lose anything from your shitty boycott
their sales are down around 28% and they had to start offering to buy expired cases back from sellers
Sure.
I believe the key is by stopping to actively boycott, and starting to passively ignore.
Actively boycotting is still showing interest and passion about a subject, while passively ignoring it is slowly orientating your life in another direction.
You may still consume Nvidia products in this exemple by passively ignoring it more and more, but the attention they get is then reduced and will possibly reach a more balanced state.
>t. Chatgtp
Then why they went full damage control and their reports are showing losses?
Additional $200 every 5years is nothing. Nvidia deserves every cent because they push the industry forward. Gamers are just entitled bunch.
Enjoy your 10% upgrade kep taking like an idiot ant they will make it 400.
This isn't your mom's basement they watch this place all the time and the internet in general.
>2000
>everyone is screeching about dotcom
>stock goes up until it crashes down
>2023
>everyone is screeching about AI
>stock goes up until it crashes down
Nvidia will crash down so hard they have no choice but to finally make good GPUs again.
>everyone is screeching about dotcom
What happened?
Old men with lots of money were throwing hundreds of millions at people in their 20s who didn't have any semblance of a company but just said the word computer/internet to investors.
gamers are the most hardcore consoomers. Nothing can stop them from consooming.
>Lowest GPU sales in 20 years
>Literally stopped production on 4070 cards because they weren't moving off the warehouses
They've fricked it. And the AI bubble will burst soon enough.
>the AI bubble will burst soon enough.
It's already ready to pop with the EU about to pass their AI act, and OpenAI already admitting that the reassurances for compliance with privacy and safety precautions the act demands would wing-clip their operations.
And just as happened with the GDPR before it; many more countries are expected to adopt parts of that act for their own legislative system. So yeah; the wild-west AI market is about to be leashed; collared; and choked.
Also Europe is going to announce the digital Euro.
Will probably make crypto illegal soon after
I don't get it, why would an average consumer use a gaming gpu for AI?
Is AI the new crypto mining shit?
It's just the latest stock hype. You mention AI in your quarter reports and your stock goes up tremendously.
Yes
And this is their way if shaking off a failure to sell
Because the actual AI cards are 5K$ a pop for the equivalent of a 4060 with 40 something GB of vram.
Poorgays and people who just want to dip their toes settle for gaming cards.
I cant afford it you dipshit!
AI is another investor bait meme just like NFTs and cryptocurrency.
>only 2 companies for GPUs and CPUs
>they indirectly (by looking) adjust their prices to each other*
How is this allowed again? Where is the legendary free market that regulates that shit?
*also happens with 4-5 companies and food
Free market forms monopolies and cartels. To regulate shit you need regulators, but they too can be bought off. We lost.
Humans in general did.
Once there is no trust and everything is a scam society will collapse.
I give it 20y
Protectionism isnt the free market. Frick you.
>Where is the legendary free market that regulates that shit?
this is it
Intel is out there selling a 4060TI equivalent for $200
It's not really a free market when there are IPs that only allow these companies to even exist on this specific market. Intel and AMD are literally the only ones that can develop x86-64 CPUs. On the PC GPU side it's similar, there are many IPs that only AMD, Nvidia and Intel hold. But if you go out the PC bubble you'll see that there many players making specialized GPU/accelerator solutions for companies.
>pay subhuman lac- I mean """"journalist"""" just to say how much they don't care
bit on the nose isn't it
Remember when like Nike or something boasted that AI means they don't have to hire black and other minority people to do photoshoots and frame it as a good thing?
>bought a 1080
>lasted 7 years
>upgraded to a 4070TI a few months ago
it lasted 7 fricking years I couldnt be bothered by current prices. yeah the current cards a few 100's higher than they are supposed to be. whoop dee fricking doo. over the span of 6-7 years its fricking nothing. why are most gamers so fricking poor?
Just stop taking.
Also that card will be useless in 2y this time.
no one is buying cards with big vram so they can be future proof in 4-5 years. by that time I will upgrade to a new card anyway. thats one of the dumbest takes ever.
How mentioned VRAM you delusional idiot
The 4070TI is a modern 1060 3gb, not a 1080. If the price doesn't matter why did you take such a tier downgrade between purchases?
Still not buying it. My 580 is doing just fine and when it doesnt, ill buy amd again
amd cards are just as expensive as nvidia cards while still having driver issues. they dont even outperform nvidia cards, they are pretty much +- the same when it comes to performance. last thing I have seen from current amd cards is the whole vapor chamber fiasko from the 7900XTX cards. they all have their own problems. for whatever reason you try to root for the "underdog" by buying from the small indie billion dollar company instead of the other big billion dollar company. bolt and brave my fellow redditor.
What part of my 580 is doing just fine didnt you understand leatherman? Im not buying your shit
>1080p with 30-60fps is considered fine
yeah I know you are such a cool guy (with low standards) you dont play modern games because they are all trash and I am sure you are capable or running troony indie games on that card. I am getting tired of this shit I am out.
Yeah, do frick off shill
>you dont play modern games because they are all trash
name five from the last five years worth playing
I'm getting RX 6600 for $190 next because the Nvidia equivalent is a shitty $180 1660ti with less VRAM and no DLSS too.
Almost double my fps and I can sell the 580 for $90 easily so that only another $100 for 6600.
>while still having driver issues
not on linux
They fixed the drivers, gramps.
Nice meme. They only slightly fixed their OpenGL implementation a few months ago but it's still garbage. If you follow the developers scene you'd know that shit is still broken as frick and they are still behind Nvidia even in implementing standard Vulkan instructions, which is funny since they basically created the whole thing. Honestly I would only use a AMD GPU under Linux since freetards actually do a better job than AMD themselves at writing proper drivers.
nvidia is worth a TRILLION dollars. It's like the 10th biggest country on its own they don't give a frick about gamers lmfao
gamers don't need new gpu's. crypto mining and AI, you know IMPORTANT STUFF, is what is driving gpu tech nowadays.
>have a 144hz monitor because 60hz is outdated and 144 looks smooth
>current cant push the only game I play to 144 fps
>Ganker tells me I dont need a new card
wow you really saved. I thought I need a new card but actually I didnt. thanks
can they make them better for ai then i'd love to generate waifus even harder
I'm probably just gonna go AMD
Maybe some sort of chink shit for my CPU, if it's chinese spyware that means it's not western spyware
I would love to buy amd cards even if it was just to make a point but they seem just as greedy and incapable as nvidia.
My card is almost 7 years old this is the longest I ever holding an ugprade, my last card was Geforce2 MX 200 that I owned for 6 years until it died.
I rather buy a better and cheap card and sold this one instead of letting it died on me.
mfw when someone pron unces it "nuh-vidia" in my presence
Surely, people like that don't exist.
It's En-vidia. They even say it in their splash screens on old games.
AMD is winning both the GPU and CPU game.
Owning an Nvidia GPU and an Intel CPU is something people did last decade.
>crypto
>AI
What'd the next bubble Ganker? I want to invest now so I can become a millionaire and retire in 5 years and play vidya.
Green fuel.
Like green hydrogen..
It's a meme it will use 3x to be produced and we will have exploding cars
Fun times are coming
Consumers can file a class action law suit against Nvidia for illegal market control.
Have you ever considered a long break with the industry?
bought my last 2 gpus (1080ti and 3090) used for cheap lmao
Article is misleading. They will make 11B total q2 2023. That includes the sales of cards for gaming.
don't care I don't buy STONKS
Battlemage is going to be kino
I laugh at all these joblets and poorgays who can't afford a 4090. Save for 6 months and you can easily buy one.
AI generated thread.
I remember seeing a major economist talking about how capitalism doesn't need consumers.
That big companies can sustain each other and just write checks and send stocks and imaginary things around forever in the final state.
I hope we get a universal basic income.
We need one.
Gamers should beg and lick Jensen's boot for driving innovation in the industry. Without the green team we would be stuck in the Radeon HD2XXX era and consoles would have blown the frick out of pc gaming over a decade ago.
Whether you like or not, Nvidia drives the innovation and AyyMD is just copying it with shitty alternatives yet they get their dick sucked because >muh open source. Of course it's open source moron because it's fricking trash.
innovation in marketing maybe
all AMD had to do to make the 7900 competitive with nvidia cards in AI (using a non-optimized generalized implementation VS an nvidia provided and optimized implementation i might add) was add one instruction for intelligently scheduling sparse fused matrix multiply add and suddenly every rdna3 compute unit is capable of acting as a tensor core equivalent
meanwhile it took nvidia how long to develop and mature tensor cores (which are completely separate from everything else and their own highly specialized hardware)?
tick tock
the ryzen moment is coming
Until amd can into dlss it won't matter because that's all developers and consoomers care about. Game ready drivers and dlss meme. We're being held hostage by game developers being shit at their jobs.
>dlss
there are already multiple cross vendor alternatives to DLSS1 and 2 (like literally ALL nvidia software) except they actually run on every platform including consoles and integrated graphics cards
and there's a major update to all of the FidelityFx software suite improving the entire SDK including but not limited to providing AMD's DLSS3 equivalent on the way
and there's ways to provide the dlss API using those solutions on non-nvidia platforms so even if developers are too lazy or stupid to support the open alternatives (or paid off by gameworks) they don't have a say
i don't know what more you morons want, i guess it just needs to be platform exclusive so you can continue your little console wars garbage when it's obvious nvidia is losing this fight in the long term now that it's literally everyone who makes hardware and then some against them
>except they actually run on every platform including consoles and integrated graphics cards
AMD's FSR and Intel's XeSS both work on nvidia's 10xx cards that DLSS doesn't support
Are these IN THE GAME BY DEFAULT? can consumer GO TO GAME OPTIONS AND CLICK ON?
No?
Then it doesn't fricking exist. What is hard to grasp about this? Even most people who build their own pcs don't go into directly fricking with their gpu settings via controller. They want it to work out of the box
DLSS isn't important. DLSS takes information between two frames and tries to guess how it should look like in-between, which is supposed to reduce the need for actual rasterization and improve frame rates. If, hypothetically, your GPU isn't good enough and the frame rate is natively slow, DLSS will look much worse because the more lag there is between two frames, the more guessing DLSS has to do (even if frame rates would improve). If you're playing an older game or turning down settings, you don't need DLSS. If you're playing a newer game or are on the highest settings, you would need a more powerful GPU in the first place, enough for a high enough frame rate for DLSS to relatively work.
Also, triple A gaming needs to die, but the main problem isn't game developers being shit at their jobs. It's Nvidia holding everyone else hostage by constantly trying to push DLSS.
Dlss isn't important except as a crutch for developers, making it more and more necessary for anything that is a port even though your computer has a spec that dwarfs the console it was made for. Optimization is done by pajeets.
It's almost a he-said-she-said - I'll concede that I don't really know who's to blame. Maybe they both are. I hate triple A game devs AND Nvidia.
Dlss has been a god send for nvidia and developers because developers don't bother optimizing games and dlss can fix that! Nvidia doesn't care because it can sell you lower end equipment marketed at higher prices and uses dlss to say look at that performance increase with these new cards!
>but the main problem isn't game developers being shit at their jobs
no, no, he's right, it definitely is
nvidia's enabling them via shit like DLSS and authoring vulkan extensions like VK_EXT_shader_object but the demand came from the gamedev side first
most game programmers are too stupid to handle graphics programming on the new-style APIs but that's not even the worst of it
according to some mobile graphics driver devs on Ganker a lot of the problem is actually coming from the way modern engines like unreal let artists author shader code (as opposed to graphics programmers) via visual editors and the way they do it is just nonsensical and horrible
you copy and paste one file in the game's folder and then it stops being greyed out in the game's options
i guess since you had to install the game itself it doesn't exist either
I hate crypto, I hate miners, I hate hoarders, i hate rsellers, I hate AI, I hate pajeets, and finally, I hate Jensen huang and nvidia
People who buy Nvidia are beyond all help anyways. Only the biggest consoomers buy them instead of the sensible choice, AMD.
The only reason I buy Nvidia is the developer favoritism. Every developer makes for their drivers (which is why amds never work on release) and every developer is leaning hard on. The dlss fricking meme now rather than optimizing. I'm basically held hostage. Fortunately after doing the research I figured out to get a meaningful upgrade on my 2070super I'd need to spend more than just buying a ps5, so that's what I'm going to do instead in a few months. I mostly play strat games like total war anyway which are more cpu and ram reliant anyway.
AMD isn't even significantly cheaper, if they really were delivering reasonably priced GPUs while Nvidia is trying to sell midrange GPUs for $1k they would've taken the market by storm, but they're content undercutting Nvidia by like 50 bucks and just trying to catch the crumbs that fall off Nvidia's table. Ironically Intel is the only one delivering good value GPUs and that's only because they're a new player in the market.
AMDs aren't much cheaper but Nvidia is so inflated they dominate the price point vs performance value calculation. Pretty much every Nvidia card is overpriced by hundreds of dollars for what it delivers in terms of spec.
I just want you to know that the israelites over at google are to blame for this.
AI won't impact consumer-grade hardware anyway. Nobody but complete hobbyists are going to use a RX4090 and so on for AI. This isn't crypto where you can just slap together 50000 3060s and make money off it. As demonstrated by LLaMA/Alpaca/Vicuna and so on, these smaller models are worthless outside of select benchmarks. It'll always be more efficient to either own actual datacenter hardware, or more preferably, rent the capacity or a pre-existing service if you want quality.
At worst, Nvidia is going to cut down the VRAM capacity of their next cards to make them useless for even the more basic AI models. Not that anybody would care, there is no consumer application for more than 8GB of VRAM anyway.
>no consumer application uses more than 8GB VRAM
moron.
this is why you're getting 8GB vram in 2023 when AAA games are so unoptimized they eat 10GB minimum, so nvidia can build more 48GB workstation gpus while marketers are pushing AI
Dear PC Gamers,
Guess what, PC Gamers? I've finally developed the ultimate scheme! In three months I'll control the graphics cards market! Think you can stop me?
Sincerely,
Nvidia
Nvidia was given a whole lot a tax payer money a few months ago.
All these headlines of boycotts are fake news.
>Made 500 billion in 4 months
Jesus christ
Now tell me how low the profit margins are again
I love the headline as well
>This company doesn't give a shit its ripping you off!
>They're making bank elsewhere!
Do journalists ever wonder why people have such contempt for them?
If modern PC games were worth buying I might care about GPU's becoming more and more unaffordable but what are you buying a fricking 4080 for lmao, fricking redfall?
Remakes of games I've played already?
FORSPOKEN?
Okay? I guess I'll go AMD?
There 1000 other beer makers
There's only one other GPU maker
AMD doesn't want to compete with njudea at the high end, so there's nothing any of us can do except perhaps cope that intel might do something. Otherwise they have an uncontested monopoly.