Most games that feature sieges in some capacity do so in a basic manner. In CK2/3 it's just a progress bar with some minor events. EU4 is just a percentage, with the additional ability to blockade, sortie and create a breach. In Total War all you can do is build siege engines, but sieges in most Total War games are either buggy, have terrible pathfinding or are just a chore in general.
So where can one find a game with actual realistic siege warfare?
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AoE siege weapons are kino
March of the Eagles is old but it has some pretty good ideas that never saw the light of day.
>So where can one find a game with actual realistic siege warfare?
u can't
None. Lords of the Realm 2 sieges are fun though.
lol came to post this. Building the seige towers and catapults are fun.
>Slaughter these villagers m'lord?
Stronghold M'lord
Hegemony
>actual realistic siege warfare
is a boring game of attrition that takes forever 99% of the time. Especially pre-gunpowder. Even storming fortifications just boil down to human wave tactics on a vastly outnumbered enemy with no higher tactics being utitlized because none could really be applicable in those types of extremely close-quarters man-to-man slugfests. For every Siege of Tyre, Alessia, or Vicksburg, there are a thousand siege of Random Fortress #88081 where one side just camps outside until a flag is raised or reinforcements show up and force them to lift the siege and bail.
Why would you want to play a game like that?
>Grabber
Is this a Bearenstein Bears moment? I have never heard of this before.
Only thing I can think in real life application is the "grabber" in the Roman siege of Syracuse but they use it to "grab" galleys. Modern representations looks exactly like the Pic
Those were massive chains attached to anchors/giant boarding hooks used to lift ships up out of the water though. I've never heard of something as fanciful as lifting a battering ram like that. I kind of doubt the materials involved would work. How do the iron tongs open/close attached to a chain and nothing else?
>Claw on chain
Probably works like lumber hooks, I'd reckon
Reminds me of those Spaniard torture devices The Inquisition used on women, yikes!
Most of the torture devices from the inquisition were meant to instimidate, not actually torture.
Yeah, but the breast-ripper still seems like a barbaric punishment, even by inquisition standards.
Look dude, one handed log grabbers or whatever the hell they are called in english aren't particularly complicated, look up the ones made by Fiskars. It is the same principle. That grabber is 100% plausible.
Tacitus mentions a besieged roman camp using a crane to grab attacking Gauls and Germans during the Batavian revolt. It’s cool seeing other examples of cranes as weapons because I honestly had a hard time picturing how that would work.
>because I honestly had a hard time picturing how that would work.
I still don't get what you're describing either lmao. I can't remember what it was from but it was the romans using huge ass claw/crane things to tear down dacian walls.
I think that could actually make for a good management/*tycoon style game.
Imagine that the challenge is managing your own siege camp over a prolonged siege. Setting up your tent at the right place, expanding the siege camp, assigning troops to the right position to ensure proper encirclement and defense against sallies, resource management for your ever dwindling stockpiles to build siege equipment, tents and barracks along with food, managing moral and possibly dealing with protecting supply lines.
Longer historical sieges could last a long time and siege camps often became like small towns in their own right and were an overall very complex process. I think basing a game off that could make for a very solid game.
Siege Survival: Gloria Victis is probably the closest to what you're describing. It's not particularly good, but it's not bad either. It's basically This War of Mine but for a medieval siege.
rome 2 has good siege battles. medieval 2, especially citadel sieges, are fricking awesome
attila is peak, rome 2 holds no candle.
Stronghold and... that's it I think. Total War is next in line, buy sieges are always janky. Med2 would be the best, but it's too buggy and AI can't understand what to do at all.
Angry bird
Mountain Blade had fun sieges
That's some motivation I can get behind.
>Team Fortress players be like:
Lords of the Realm 2
Srronghold and S:Crusader maybe?
>Walls are glorified fence over which archers can shoot
>can't place troops on them, they don't provide height advantage or actual protection, can't put artillery and other engines of war on them
>attackers have no use for siege towers or ladders and can simply damage stone walls with their swords and spears
Why was this ever allowed
bannerlord has a decent future i hope..
currently, it's autoplay but i hope that mods will fix it.
Total War when you don't actually attack the settlement and just build a million siege towers while you wait for them to starve, if they charge out it's suicide because their missiles are negated by giant 35 ft tall shields. enjoy being bored while you never actually fight any battles and can't do anything on your turns because your armies are busy fiddling around outside antioch for 2 years.