>want to get into hobby >ask questions and do research >actually attempt to engage
gays hate “gatekeeping” because it’s an acknowledgment that they’re just getting into it as a way of following some fricking trend or other bullshit to be popular or with it. If something doesn’t work for you don’t get pissed either put in more effort or find something else.
This. It's because to a leftist, all hobbies are subcultures. They don't play D&D because they like D&D, they play it because it's "part of their subculture".
You're even dumber than the homosexuals if you don't understand you're talking about yourself. >WTF all these games have Black folk and women in them why can't I play games without them???? They should change the games they make to accommodate ME
/misc/ is just right wing Tumblr.
I'm not playing a game just because you put a woman or a Black person in it, bro. I'm especially not doing it if you went out of your way to replace a white man, because you have white man resentment issues.
I will play Street Fighter and X-Com, and ignore whatever weird cultural tantrum you're having over there.
Some politics are actually about keeping power from being exercised and leaving people alone to live their lives. Kinda wild you ultimately get groups who work to increase their power and groups who have to work to stop the first group
4 months ago
Anonymous
>groups who have to work to stop the first group
Those groups are also working to increase (or maintain) their power. If they didn't view the first group as a threat, they wouldn't act.
I really wouldn't say it is. Liberalism at it's core is one of those very protestant things, that are all about individual rights and stuff.
Basically "if the King wants to come and take my stuff, he shouldn't be allowed to".
The fact that over time Liberaism has come to mean a degeneration of all societal standards to the point that we're left with nothing but the worst of society screaming in a puddle of their own shit, at anything they perceive as better than them, is in itself subversion. That's not what that thing is supposed to be.
>implying women don't literally ruin everything
name one thing. They even ruined femininity, when they were allowed to decide what it was.
This is why trannies are necessary, btw.
>They even ruined femininity,
Every single incel that says this troons out without fail. I'll see you in /lgbt/ in a few years talking about how transitioning made you feel happy and beautiful.
Don't let your virginal bias distract you from the discussion at hand. We're not talking about how much you hate women right now.
>le effiminate argument
no one cares, no one asked. get out.
im a pretty little princess with fat fricking breasts calling you a moronic /LULZ/ reject and to leave my board
these soul-raped giga blackpilled post-post-post irony poisoned Black folk need to be rounded up and put into a mass grave ASAP >but i am le joking hehe
i dont care, you ruin everything you interact with
your deep-seated suicidal yearning needs to be fulfilled as soon as possible
I'm not being ironic, people like you are the reason this board and many others are insufferable to participate in on this site and you should vacate this mortal coil at the earliest opportunity; which given your virulent hatred of women who don't want to frick you and refusing to shut the frick up about it probably means you don't have much to live for anyway
4 months ago
Anonymous
>just repeats what he heard like an autistic parrot
yeah great, i would pin you to the floor and smash your face and throat in
i hate you pathetic post-ironic Black folk and would be vindicated if i sent at least one of you back to the bowels of homosexual hell you came from
go live your life knowing someone would stab you hundreds of time, little homosexual israelite
4 months ago
Anonymous
>i would pin you to the floor and smash your face and throat in
Yeah? Then what? Don't stop now, I'm, already half-erect
4 months ago
Anonymous
> people like you are the reason this board and many others are insufferable to participate in
not insufferable enough if you're still /here/
this. shmups have survived this long as an intact genre by making credit feeding the most unsatisfying experience you could possibly have. you either have to learn the genre, or you will never even be able to comprehend why people like it in the first place.
It's funny watching people try to get into the scene and basically force themselves to get a 1cc as there is no other way in. Even people who are just trying to be there for the subculture get broken down and forced to enjoy the games on their own terms.
I remember downloading a huge gamepack from /vr/t/ that had at least 40 shmups in it. All the cave stuff, that festival game, everything on neo-geo, the works.
I tried a bunch and had an appreciation but found I only like the most casual and colorful shmups. I'm casual. Playing the games is what made me realize I'm not a real shmup fan I just don't have it in me.
I love the atmosphere and the vibe and the mindset behind the things though. It's like watching Karl Jobst to see the autism of speedrunning without being a speedrunner myself I guess.
This is me but with souls and soulslike games. I enjoy everything about them but I absolutely detest artificial difficulty and that’s what souls bosses are. When I do a boss fight in something like DMC, I have fun. When I do bosses in souls and soulslike, I do not have fun
I got this way with sekiro. It filtered me and I never went back to it. I've got 1000s of hours in the other ones lol. I need the crutches. I always play a paladin which has pve buffs and benefits.
I have a harder time with some of the bosses in DMC than I do Dark Souls.
People have such a strange perception of what Dark Souls even is. It's not even that hard of a game compared to games that were commonplace a few years earlier like DMC3.
They get intimidated by Dark Souls because it's Dark Souls, and then they complain about it, and demand it be made easier, when literally all of the tools are there, and you usually just need to level up until you do good damage, and roll out of the way of attacks.
fpbp
Every community or hobby I've been interested in are welcoming to an extent.
And they all have their own cultures.
If you ask they will answer your questions.
But the issue with poor gatekeeping is culture.
Easy entry lead to undesirable people, like you mentioned trend chasers, who don't respect the culture that exists already.
And then they want to change it or cause issues trying to mold the community to their liking.
If you're entering a hobby the main thing a person should be does this communities culture work for me. Good or bad.
There's plenty of shit I'm into where the community sucks. I wouldn't dare try to change it because I couldn't, so I enjoy the subject but don't take part in discussions and associate.
And most of these people, who are women, hate that idea. They hate the idea of disassociating a hobby and the community.
>NO YOU CAN'T SAY MEAN THINGS TO EACH OTHER AS A WAY OF BONDING I DON'T LIKE IT
There are legitimately males who don't understand smack talk.
Girls who don't get it and b***h I understand but a guy who gets all sensitive about little bit of on mic banter?
Ruins the fun.
Muh toxic gamer bullshit
I think as many on the receiving end as those who do the ribbing dont get it, I used to quite popular before I decided to work from home and found out I had hurt someone who Id held in higj esteem from my ribbing. Sometimes it works and is fun, but you gotta keep it light.
Not really. The type of people that give/take harsh ribbing enjoy it, the kind that don't enjoy it won't ever mesh well with the ones that do.
That single difference is emblematic of deeper personality differences. You can still treat people with basic dignity even if you don't get along though.
He does actually. He wouldn't have created (you) as a fractal subcomponent of a greater whole if He didn't want you to truthfully interact with other subcomponents to come a true outcome.
That's the whole reason we're here.
4 months ago
Anonymous
bad foundation for your argument, your chosen cruelty is not God's doing
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not suffering any cruelties, life is a blessing.
If a person isn't giving it back then that's a sign they don't know how to trash talk or rib
It's the ribbers responsibility to realize oh he's not giving it back let me pull it back. And it's the one getting roasted responsibility to speak up "nah guys I don't play around like that."
>nah guys I don't play around like that."
What about that time you and the boys spent an afternoon blowing each and yelling No homosexual while slurping and sucking?
>ask questions and do research >actually attempt to engage
Why do normalgays fail so hard at these steps? Not just on Ganker but in literally every other aspect and dimension of human culture and society.
Because they are entitled and feel no genuine interest in the thing. For them it is just another trendy social activity that they'll pump and dump as surrogate for personality.
agreed, it shows you were poorly raised, like if a child asks some children if he can join in their game and then start demanding that they change the rules for him
why did you even want to join the game in the first place if you hate everything about it?
>why did you even want to join the game in the first place if you hate everything about it?
It's always money or attention.
Anytime you're curious what someone's motivation is, try these two first and see if either fits.
They almost always will.
When that's the environment, I just lurk until I know enough about the game and understand the flow of conversations enough to pass off as a relatively newbie.
The same dumb motherfrickers who think this are the ones constantly crying about their favorite multiplayer games being dead (*cough* RTS genre *cough*)
I think my biggest issue with RTS as a genre is that even the gold standards are fricking awfully balanced they are, if theyre well balanced theyre generally just not very fun or easily broken by stacking more of a bad unit. I think RTS is just too difficult for man to make well.
People need to learn that it is normal for a genre to have 6 man tournaments for a 30 year old age of empires version because it is when the genre peaked and those 6 guys are the best in the world even though only they care.
It's normal.
Sounds clever until you realise this means all hobbies have exactly one person, or "Yeah well I mean let -me- in but then gatekeep others"
I like the former, everyone gets one hobby. I fricking claim shitposting. Now frick off my board.
"Gatekeeping" as journos describe it is impossible. There is no franchise or hobby that I could not find out about and get into. The problem is they feel lie they're entitled to a fast track to being in on the conversation. They are uncomfortable with the idea of lurking and learning. I don't even really blame them because some karma hungry redditor has served up what they're looking for every day for years now.
I don't know, while I did brute force my way into some games I wish the toppers in a lot of games weren't such self righteous gays.
I've seen a handful of games sort of wane and die due to aggressively shitty communities.
Some games:
Lethal League
Fistful of Frags
while games like Toribash I've never had a single problem with people and it's a dead as frick game, so maybe i'm biased
i don't like hand-holding, but some people learn better when being taught as opposed to self-teaching
again not that it's anyone's obligation to teach other people
idfk
This is perfectly fine. The "guard" will only get you in if he thinks you are part of the hobby already, learn and become part of it and you'll join right away.
"Gatekeeping" as journos describe it is impossible. There is no franchise or hobby that I could not find out about and get into. The problem is they feel lie they're entitled to a fast track to being in on the conversation. They are uncomfortable with the idea of lurking and learning. I don't even really blame them because some karma hungry redditor has served up what they're looking for every day for years now.
When you are lurking and learning, you're only getting by because the people in the community are sharing instead of gatekeeping. Most human knowledge is shared, then at some point someone just decides not to.
you didn't understand gatekeeping then. Human knowledge has always been gatekept because of it's inherent value. Ancient artisans didn't just share their crafting techniques with other artisans, only with their most trusted colleagues and apprentices.
Knowledge and information was always gatekept, and always will be.
I agree with the principle, but how does it work in practice? What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game other than telling people in chats/message boards to frick off?
The people that b***h about gatekeeping are usually overly sensitive homosexuals that whine on sites like twatter, that usually is enough. But also calling out why they were “gatekept” is a good way. Because 90% of the time it’s because people didn’t cater to what they wanted.
> Because 90% of the time it’s because people didn’t cater to what they wanted.
this is pretty much it. Gatekeeping is natural and was invented as a concept to shame communities into accepting bad actors.
We can't. Our hobby is all commercial products. All commercial products want more customers. We're doomed. Before we were able to gatekeep on forums and here but now all the normies have the internet and everyone is using X and twitch and shit now which are also corporate for profit endeavors. And prominent community members also play nice for follows or profit too. It's over.
When I see bullying on here, the newbie starts acting persecuted as a "bastion of good taste" and other newbies gather around, causing endless shitflinging.
You are doing well, almost couldn't tell
Well, anyone after like 2011 is a newbie or worse, right? I imagine you'd be hard pressed to find many oldgays.
Yes but remember the truth of internet discussions. 90% of the talking is done by 30% of the users. You have to behave properly no matter what and hope the bystanders see what's up. The newbie is never about to make a reasoned argument that holds up. Just outmeme them.
>Just outmeme them.
When that happens, they either start shitposting or leak IQ points to stay in denial that they were wrong, usually both.
At that point, you have to ignore or things get really obnoxious for everybody as they will post until archive for the last word more often than not.
Personally, I try until I notice someone's a real asshat and just disengage. I think that's the healthiest thing, both for discussion and myself.
The discussion and yourself are battles. Ganker or whatever game community is the war. You're fighting to survive, not to win.
Once they start leaking IQ points and having a melty, the meme game is easy, especially if you aren't a pantywaist you can just choose a pejorative and start leaning into it. Most times you can be safe with calling them third worlders because that's the main source of pollution on the internet and in game communities for the West.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Fair enough, I suppose.
4 months ago
Anonymous
This, it’s especially easy since most morons argue exclusively by spamming shitjaks and chad memes. If that fails they usually default to samegayging to appear like they hold a majority.
I usually just start posting reaction images and they frick off very quickly. If you've been around for a while your reactions folder should be like the soviet union compared to their Nazi Germany, just churn memes out with sage enabled until they leave. Also, jeets hate being called jeets.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly, I try to avoid ad hominem beyond "moron", "autist", and "schizo," but bait images have worked in the past, so maybe I'll try that sort of thing more often.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's fun if, like me, you can't walk away from arguments easily
4 months ago
Anonymous
been like that a long time, but something clicked one day and I started seeing those kinds of "conversations" aren't worth having since, on top of being stupid, the other person is incapable of truly hearing anything you have to say from their very first post.
If it helps thread quality then maybe, but why bother otherwise? I just get miserable.
I usually just start posting reaction images and they frick off very quickly. If you've been around for a while your reactions folder should be like the soviet union compared to their Nazi Germany, just churn memes out with sage enabled until they leave. Also, jeets hate being called jeets.
>I usually just start posting reaction images and they frick off very quickly
based and shitpostpilled
Yes but remember the truth of internet discussions. 90% of the talking is done by 30% of the users. You have to behave properly no matter what and hope the bystanders see what's up. The newbie is never about to make a reasoned argument that holds up. Just outmeme them.
>Ganker has a gatekeeping centered culture and it's mostly based on bullying newbies.
It's too bad this hasn't really been the case since 2009 or so. If it was, /LULZ/ would still be a fun board instead of a foreveralone circlejerk, and /misc/ would've been bullied so hard moot wouldve changed the board name back to /new/ just to spite the tourists. instead, we allowed the subhumans to outnumber any oldguard left and now Ganker is just /misc/-lite with occasional vidya discussion
And then all the people with the common ground of being ostracized make their own community that starts to grow and overtake yours out of spite. Many such cases.
I have several servers for an online game which I'm passionate about, two e-friends and me actively police them to cultivate an environment that keeps the core gameplay of the game intact where people who actually give a shit can play the game the way it was meant and play it in peace. We get rid of anyone who doesn't learn, respect and disrupts the game. Depending on the person its a 1-14 days ban or a permanent ban.
You either get it or you don't and if you dont and don't care to learn you get the door, simple as.
Exelent, this is gatekeeping from the top. I'll give another 2 examples, one bad and one good. >Kojimbo, when asked about why he made the cumbait character Quiet, came up with a bullshit pseudo intellectual excuse. This opens the door for gays who are anti fanservice, because it justifies their moral horniness, because it allows them to police what they might deem immoral fanservice while keeping their "ethical fanservice" >Yoko Taro when asked by the Android 2B was so sexy he simply said that's what he likes. This btfos any tone policers right from the gate. "It's there because is sexy. Don't like it? Frick off". There's no nuance to it, no openings. Is honest about it's target audience, which makes it harder to penetrate by antis.
>sexy fighting androids with no lame excuses as to why they're made to be sexy
It gatekept the moralgays and the screeching feminists who hate the male gaze.
it didnt and it sold more than nier replicant, and it sparked a more approachable more digestible Nier replicant. Nier as a franchise is bigger than ever before. Noone is outside the gate and I bet you could google 2B/9S trans cosplay and find plenty. Nier is a very gay adjacent property
4 months ago
Anonymous
nothing you said is even remotely related to my post you absolute mongoloid
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I bet you could google 2B/9S trans cosplay and find plenty. Nier is a very gay adjacent property
But that would be acceptable in this context. Not all gays/troons hate beautiful, scantily-clad women
4 months ago
Anonymous
>uhmmm trannies are actually based
excellent gatekeeping! When did your egg pop or crack or whatever?
That's the thing, it doesn't really work out because most of the time people that would want to gatekeep aren't in a position that allows gatekeeping, can't do shit about phoneposters if phones are allowed to access the website you know. People who say shit like "we should have gatekept videogames", "we should have gatekept the internet" don't really consider how they could really have gatekept, nor what they were doing at the time. I'm still of the same opinion that it was cooler when the internet and videogames were more niche, and that's ultimately the point people want to express when they say shit like that.
The most common implementation of gatekeeping is in smaller communities instead, but it usually boils down to "you do not have the same views as us so we will ostracize you until you leave" which can be anything.
this. what the frick are you going to do >PUT THE CONTROLLER DOWN YOURE CASUAL AND WE DONT WELCOME YOU HERE
if that finds any efficacy you just look like a schizo and make yourself a target for the normies, also people will see you and say "who the frick put you in charge" Id like to take a minute to just say that DnD has always been a gays and queers game.
Nothing over what I'm skimming over sounds like it's gonna help with gatekeeping when done by the average user, what I'm seeing sounds more like attempting to keep newer users out of a community rather than making sure only decent users stick around, and the cases of filtering users so that the decent users stick around just don't happen most of the time. You're more likely to run into trolls deliberately saying contrarian things just to get a rise out of people than genuine people, and people will respond every time. People who actually have a serious contrarian opinion either don't browse here or they discuss elsewhere and still browse the place.
Actually getting good users for a community is an ongoing dilemma because of how fricked the internet has gotten over the last decade, but an average user gatekeeping stuff is not effective, the gatekeeping would have to happen at the authority position for it to have some effectiveness unless it's a smaller community, in which case it's the aforementioned "you have different views so go away". Having an exaggeratedly hostile userbase doesn't help either, all it means is that the newcomers will be hostile just to fit in and that the community is at risk of being autistic because they're talking about the same shit over and over with no new blood joining the fray, if you want to see what that leads to just check the >>>/vg/ threads.
As much as I dislike talking to casuals I still think Hiro's hands-off approach was one of the better outcomes for the site, it couldn't be helped that the rest of the internet went to shit and that the social media'd users would gradually arrive here and act moronic, but at least there wasn't any big drama or very questionable management choices that ruined Ganker, the only real difference is the userbase. I just find it kinda bad there's no alternative for non-casual users, other than the other vidya boards.
I agree that your arguments are true anon. Ganker is brought down by the internet overall having gone down to shit, there's little that can be done about that.
But communities, made up by individual users, can engage in organic gatekeeping such as in
By not catering to newbies by spoonfeeding them when they should just lurk moar. By keeping the conversation niche and using ample in-group lingo.
By not self censoring or dumbing down the conversation for entitled tourists who seek to warp the space to suit their sensibilities.
Example 1 >Elden Ring/Souls thread >A: "Damn UGS crouch poke op. STR ftw!" >B: "I like spellspam, Dual SoL NC INT cap" >C: "CT + RBF + SsGs Jump Attack" >D: "Could you explain what any of that means?" >A,B,C: "Lurk moar"
Here you see a conversation which is about buiilds and playstyles, ingame plus ingroup knowledge allows for condensed typing and efficient conversation between A, B and C. Then comes D and wants a free seminar.
Here's why is counterproductive to spoonfeed D: Had he had ingame knowledge he would've understood at least some of the conversation, but he didn't, thus the conversation isn't even relevant to him in the first place, and if he did then he wouldn't have needed spoonfeeding anyways.
Example 2: >WH40K thread >A:"And then the Slaneshy cult raped the whole planet" >B:"Damn that's crazy! The Eldar would've made living furniture out them instead!" >C:"Umm excuse meee?!?! Don't talk about genocide and rape so casually, that is NOT OKAY!" >A,B: "FRICK OFF, TOURIST"
In example 2, A and B refuse to tone down their conversation in order to appease a tourist who cannot stomach the grimdark themes of 40K. The tourist, unable to police the space, will eventually leave.
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The bar is insanely low and most anons don't even meet that. If every user who even remotely cares about this just does those three things, board quality would go up substantially, with no authority meddling required. I can do my part, and so can you.
You can be much more toxic than that in multiplayer environments
With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders
>With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders >Discord
Kek and Ganker hate this ways lol
And then all the people with the common ground of being ostracized make their own community that starts to grow and overtake yours out of spite. Many such cases.
>And then all the people with the common ground of being ostracized make their own community that starts to grow and overtake yours out of spite. Many such cases.
That right, this why gatekeeping wont work
>With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders
slippery slope. I don't want to have to join a million different discords with powertripping mods and shit communities to find some niche information on a hobby/game i couldve found on a message board 10 years ago.
Well that's the compromise moron. Either you centralise power in the hands of a small number of people who are able to gatekeep your community or you can't gatekeep effectively
thats not a compromise moron, you're arguing for centralizing information useful/critical to a hobby to something as impermanent as a glorified teamspeak server
doing your own research is also successful gatekeeping. By going out of your way to find stuff out without forcing others to spoonfeed you, you are earning your ingroup badge
Back in the day the act of gatekeeping was merely forcing people to work to understand the hobby they were getting into. As they did this they acclimated to the community around the hobby.
Now that's impossible because everything's made simplified to attract the most amount of customers/users
you can't
gatekeeping isn't real
the entire concept is just another thing for attentionprostitutes to complain about so they can get more attention and money through said attention but no one actually gatekept them
>What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game other than telling people in chats/message boards to frick off?
You double and tripple down on supporting whatever the normies and tourists want to change. Write posts of appreciation about these things, make threads, create content.
And if you get hate thrown your way by the Twitter/Peddit mob, you quadruple down on it. Insult some homosexuals if you need to. Just never, EVER budge, not even an inch.
>Just never, EVER budge, not even an inch.
I really hate that it has to be that way. I end up having to stick to every bit of minutia since they carpet bomb the hell out of the tiniest good faith admission.
I dont like it either, but they're the kind that WILL take the whole cake if given the tiniest slice. They're buttholes by nature and deserve no empathy or voice whatsoever.
By not catering to newbies by spoonfeeding them when they should just lurk moar. By keeping the conversation niche and using ample in-group lingo.
By not self censoring or dumbing down the conversation for entitled tourists who seek to warp the space to suit their sensibilities.
Example 1 >Elden Ring/Souls thread >A: "Damn UGS crouch poke op. STR ftw!" >B: "I like spellspam, Dual SoL NC INT cap" >C: "CT + RBF + SsGs Jump Attack" >D: "Could you explain what any of that means?" >A,B,C: "Lurk moar"
Here you see a conversation which is about buiilds and playstyles, ingame plus ingroup knowledge allows for condensed typing and efficient conversation between A, B and C. Then comes D and wants a free seminar.
Here's why is counterproductive to spoonfeed D: Had he had ingame knowledge he would've understood at least some of the conversation, but he didn't, thus the conversation isn't even relevant to him in the first place, and if he did then he wouldn't have needed spoonfeeding anyways.
Example 2: >WH40K thread >A:"And then the Slaneshy cult raped the whole planet" >B:"Damn that's crazy! The Eldar would've made living furniture out them instead!" >C:"Umm excuse meee?!?! Don't talk about genocide and rape so casually, that is NOT OKAY!" >A,B: "FRICK OFF, TOURIST"
In example 2, A and B refuse to tone down their conversation in order to appease a tourist who cannot stomach the grimdark themes of 40K. The tourist, unable to police the space, will eventually leave.
>well gatekept
pretty sure all of games workshops new figures are women and Black folk. You morons should have made an open source legally distinct 3d printable version ages ago
>Haha, salty homosexual gatekept from WH >meanwhile AoS is now nothing but Strong Blak Wahmen and 40k is making partnerships with Disney and pushing articles about how important diversity is for your wife's mixed son
this also >gay ttg for socially disenfranchised rejects like gay and at the time fat social reject Henry Cavill >now gay fat trans BLACK social rejects join in >NOOOOOOO MY PERFECT HOBBY FOR ONLY WHITE FAT STRAIGHTS
dont play gay games for rejects if you dont want gay rejects to join your hobby
Don't we literally have threads ulom threads of people complaining about having to join obscure discords and shit for information and specific mods and such?
I'd argue that the problem with those is more that the mod-creators are attempting to create a "community" to gatekeep to begin with.
Most of these discord servers and forums rarely have any barriers to entry, but they just want you to join and make the members number go up to make the creator feel important. The reason why those forums and servers are always so empty is because most are just there to get a download link and get on with their day.
Nobody wants to form a community over mods, they just want to download the funny meme add-on and see it in their game, and some homosexuals just can't accept that is the extent of the relationship.
MUGENarchive is one of the worst sites I've ever had the displeasure of using because of their rampant "Muh Community"gayging.
Why the frick do gatekeepers, the really really dedicated ones, always talk in some insufferable prose?
They talk like they're role playing as a religious crusader, fighting as if they're in an active siege. They use terms like 'old guard', 'purity', 'degeneracy', and treat the hobby they're defending as an actual castle.
Brb, gonna gank newbs in Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
>Why the frick do gatekeepers, the really really dedicated ones, always talk in some insufferable prose
If this is what it takes to keep shitters like YOU out then I'll be the most cringe obnoxious pos imaginable and make my hobbies look unappealing by extension, like a coat of venom to protect it from predators.
And by what you just typed, it's working.
You can't. Its up to the creators to decide on who they intend to create the game for. Just so happens that the money is on casting as wide of a net and being as omni-pandering as possible. You really need an autistic developer to make games for particular kinds of audiences. On the other hand, smaller communities you can gatekeep, like monoglian imageboards, dis*ord, veddit and facebook marketplaces but do mind how fricking shit it is to be a moderator
Simply add both sexy and cute characters in your game, this will naturally filter the people with an underdeveloped amygdala, ie those you don't want in your community, they are your typical feminists, twitter psychos, gore posters, and control freaks.
I wonder if increasing the number of reaction images featuring cute anime girls would also increase the quality of the site as a whole by passively discouraging tourists and normalgays from posting.
>increasing the number of reaction images featuring cute anime girls would also increase the quality of the site
have you been in a coma the last several years? Literally the opposite is currently the case
This 100%, Gankerhu threads and c-team threads have next to no tourists in them, even the simplest drawing of e-girls is literal kryptonite for normalgays.
When you spam this shit non-stop you dont gatekeep anyone, you're just being obnoxious, who do you gatekeep when going into a milsim fps thread and avatar-gayging with pics like these? homosexuals like you are like unsocialised dogs, you simply dont know how to behave with others and when to stop shitting where you eat. You think anyone who hates this shit is a normie trying to encroach on your space when in reality a lot of people are simply fed up with your obnoxious, unrelated spamming and injection of fetish shit in every discussion.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't read, get out of my anime website you pest.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know, man. Spamming anime girl reaction images used to be the norm around here. Maybe he's on to something.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Anime also wasn't normalgay shit fifteen years ago.
4 months ago
Anonymous
True, but don't normies still despise e-girl?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sort of? They're kinda bipolar, like with kana from the dragon maid anime and megumin, like there are "safe" e-girls for them to lewd but anything else is moralhomosexual screeching
4 months ago
Anonymous
Technically still isn't, show a normalgay anything crazier than entry level fotm shonen and they spas tfo
4 months ago
Anonymous
It is in the way video games are
Outside of completely off the walls stuff like e-girl eroge and shit, they pretty much are either aware or play of everything else
4 months ago
Anonymous
True, the first episode of Akogarete already made normaloids furious (shame the animation quality is subpar).
4 months ago
Anonymous
>When you spam this shit non-stop you dont gatekeep anyone
it gatekeeps (YOU)
Going too unironic makes you look like a pedo. Gore does the same thing in keeping newbies out without putting you into an unwanted group.
Larping as a normie also works for the super ingrained discord types. When they go down a rabbit hole about topic x in a shitpost just proclaim you didn't know about any of that cool info and ask them if they have any loresage info about something else inane.
>Harem dicky game >"why aren't you pandering to people who don't like harem dicky games??? Don't you realize they won't play your game if you don't pander to them???"
These creatures aren't even real I swear
>What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game
you make shit up to put people off it. shit that sounds real enough to be possible, but buried too deep to find without actually playing the game, but the person wouldn't want to play the game because of how dissuaded they were by what was talked about.
could be some identity politics shit buried in a discord server, could be a bad game mechanic that only shows up 4 hours in, could be anything to make it look unappetizing to the normie palette.
it's the Iceland half of the Greenland-Iceland strategy,
Remember that time, during the height of election bullshit, some relatively new account came into an obscure Doom modding forum and made a post that basically said "Hello everyone, I'm here because there's some heckin' awful nazis going around online, and I think we need to make sure we ban all the nazis we find here!" and everyone told the guy to frick off and stop shit stirring for no reason? Like that.
It's not that hard, make sure whenever they come into a hobby that they've shown a respectable amount of effort that they're into that hobby and aren't just there to be a tourist. They also have to respect the media that the developer and writer intended for it to be.
That's pretty much it, only spergs would ask for more than that since at that point the new guy would have to pretend to be an oldgay.
>/pol/gays want to be Gankertards >keep screaming NO THIS IS A troony GAME FOR homosexualS BECAUSE I SAW A SINGLE BLACK PERSON >REEEEE I'M BEING GATEKEPT
>left, male PoV: adapt to environment, enter hierarchy where your position might not be the leadership >right female PoV: change environment to your liking, enter a circlejerk where everybody is equal or else
The trick to keeping a hobby healthy and going is to detect the numales who want to get laid and inject whamyns into the hobby and kick them out before they have a chance to do so.
>The trick to keeping a hobby healthy and going is to detect the numales who want to get laid and inject whamyns into the hobby and kick them out before they have a chance to do so.
Lol
Lmao
Reminder
>Guys on the left playing Warhammer >Everyone on the right playing fricking beer pong or some shit >Drunk tourists come over >Their indifference to actually playing the game is made evident when they give up at the first sign of resistance >Guys on the left continue playing Warhammer
Hadn't looked closely into the picture, but it's really funny that all those tables are not even half made and those people are doing anything but playing the game they supposedly are being getekept from.
>guys on the left are in their own private room >normie, dumb Black person and quirky girl (if actually girl) automatically translate "private" to "elite" in their heads >rest of "their" side is a public space full of girls, jocks, Black folk and, for some reason, one redhead cripple, who is most likely soulless and can't into immersion
I mean, i can understand their wish to join slightly less moronic society, but their "math" and "logic" skills are too low to pass all required checks.
>make hobby >frick up and accept the wrong people >"frick now we can never again engage in the hobby we created
This image never stops being mystifying
regarding vidya, people on Ganker would be those who joined around stage 2 or so, at best. we're not the people who created the hobby, most of us don't have the skill or time to create games, especially not enough of us to create some new community or zeitgeist around them that mimics what we had in days past. All we can do is orbit around the games that actually do get made, and if the hobby has degraded to a point that most of those are shit, we are powerless to do anything about it. Which, honestly, just makes all the b***hing about it even more pathetic.
If this scenario happens to you, you almost deserve it.
What are you doing letting unreliable frickers into your social club who starts inviting whoever in regardless of the rest of the members' take on it? Either you're a spineless pusdy or your club is public.
We had two instances of troublesome people in my DnD group and both times they got disposed of the moment they started making trouble. One was an autistic girl with a E-girl aesthetic who tried to frick the DM's boyfriend. She was out before she even got the chance to play a game with us.
And I'm sure some of you will picture "Autistic girl with E-girl aesthetic" as some fricking Onlyfans bombshell and say "based", but no, she wasn't cute at all.
Best way to gatekeep is simply not talking about it. Real clubs work like secluded secret organizations. That's why secret orders of X and Y never included women and were difficult as shit to get into.
>make hobby >frick up and accept the wrong people >"frick now we can never again engage in the hobby we created
This image never stops being mystifying
If this scenario happens to you, you almost deserve it.
What are you doing letting unreliable frickers into your social club who starts inviting whoever in regardless of the rest of the members' take on it? Either you're a spineless pusdy or your club is public.
We had two instances of troublesome people in my DnD group and both times they got disposed of the moment they started making trouble. One was an autistic girl with a E-girl aesthetic who tried to frick the DM's boyfriend. She was out before she even got the chance to play a game with us.
And I'm sure some of you will picture "Autistic girl with E-girl aesthetic" as some fricking Onlyfans bombshell and say "based", but no, she wasn't cute at all.
>It's a metaphor for the whole games industry.
But it's fricking stupid as a metaphor. The games industry is a thing that grows regardless of your actions, whereas a hobby you personally make with a friend is unlikely to do so without you direct intervention. And even if it does, nothing prevents you from continuing to enjoy it in that exact state.
The irony of this statement is that a weak man is crying while saying it on an anonymous imageboard
You can't gatekeep anything, you probably don't even have friends
You know it. Really dumb too, likes to drink on the job.
Every other post says otherwise, but go off
Lol no.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You know it.
I don't, post pics.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sadly I don't have any but help me out with if I'm reading this wrong or not >barges into my bathroom >tells me her thing is voyeurism while tipsy >gets shwasted on the job >passes out in miniskirt
I'm supposed to be taking pictures and jerking off right?
4 months ago
Anonymous
This is extremely interesting anon, please tell me more about this woman.
4 months ago
Anonymous
This is extremely interesting anon, please tell me more about this woman.
homie stop erping in my thread
4 months ago
Anonymous
There's only 1 person larping here and that's not me.
>enter a circlejerk where everybody is equal or else
this is absolutely not how normalgays operate, if anything is the contrary
based manly communities have some more equity and freedom. Normalgay troony communities ALWAYS have some giga powertrippy hierarchy of copious wienersucking to enforce their beliefs and shun people that offend their fragile existence. Then this minority forms built from dipshits that jerk others off enoufh to rise while the other normalgays dont see the issue, are too eager to seek acceptance and approvement or the in group to the point theyre biased and in favor of everything they say, and will inevitably bandwagon in favor of whatever their troony leaders want
In my own experience running around Twitch and engaging a few small Discords, people just do not engage with anyone they disagree with, even if the disagreement is completely respectful and free of condescending homosexualry. Most of them isolate into insular groups where everyone agrees with and reinforces each other, and dissenters either get treated like shit until they leave, or simply get banned.
It's very easy to tell the difference between tourists who need to be gatekept and wholesome new blood. Tourists will start out with nebulous everything questions and demand to be spoon fed with; What's the best class? What's the best build? What's the best weapon? What's the best farming spot? These are the people you tell to frick off and figure it out. New cool guys will have legitimate questions about the nuisance of game mechanics.
It reads like chatGTP >New cool guys will have legitimate questions about the nuisance of game mechanics.
One of those words doesn't fit. He meant nuance I assume.
why do female sororities gatekeep against me, a male, trying to live in one? being male or female is a backwards ideology and should have absolutely no impact on where I lay my head to rest.
>about gatkeeping and other sjw bullshit.
Ganker never talks about gats, they talk about videogames you DINGDONG. If you want to talk about gats go to /k/.
well, you can't gate keep something as abstract as video games. Everything that has deviated from pong and mario has changed video games. Including the games you like.
Yes, but video game culture, and video games are two distinct things.
Basic "gamer culture" etiquette, like mocking people who are shit at games until they get better, are good, and should be encouraged.
People end up leaving their comfort zone, and being better at games. Companies are less pressured to make everything for a lowest common denominator audience who can't deal with the slightest challenge, so established franchises don't all gradually turn to shit.
well thats where all the people you hate who consider themselves a part of "gamer culture" so thats probably where you need to weed them out. You cant gatekeep gaming exclusively on Ganker where noone listens to you anyway
There's no culture on Twitter. It's a platform for narcissistic self-aggrandisement. I've never seen a conversation take place on Twitter. The design of the site simply isn't built to accommodate it.
People who think they're a part of some "twitter culture" are literally mentally ill. You're supposed to get involved in forums and groups, if you actually care about something.
>Basic "gamer culture" etiquette, like mocking people who are shit at games until they get better, are good, and should be encouraged.
What caused the shift? It feels like developers and producers used to have the exact same attitude.
they do when it befits them and its easy. >doom eternal adds gay cooldowns and moves, dogshit lore and story >studio response: lmao filtered have you beaten nightmare difficulty >starfield fricking sucks mechanically, sandwiches consist of 80 million triangles >todds response: lmao filtered get a better gpu >dark souls 2/elden ring are overpadded and boring >response: (I dont speak japanese)
Because "Mock the people who suck at videogames" filters tons of people who don't deserve to be filtered. A just middle must be met because nobody deserves to be bullied out of a hobby for struggling with skill issues.
But none of this means that games must be turned into infantilizing experiences that holda your hand to make sure you never struggle, but this problem was not caused by people who cry about hard videogames, it was caused by shitty dev studios and publishing firms that want to get everyone addicted to their microtransaction schemes. If the game is too hard, normo/kiddie stops playing and how can they keep buying skins/maxxing their dad's credit card if the game is too hard to play?
>Because "Mock the people who suck at videogames" filters tons of people who don't deserve to be filtered.
Everyone "deserves" to get filtered. Whether you do or don't depends entirely on you
How can the dev gatekeep shit like trannies out of the userbase? They're kind of like a a cancer, they just spawn or slither in when you least expect it and then it's hard to actually get rid of them.
this is very scary to me >make game >it accidentally attracts girls gays and trannies >you make a lot of money >you cant really say FRICK OFF TRANNIES because it will attract mainstream news attention where you basically become a persona non grata and a target for gays queers and trannies.
I doubt anything I make will ever attract an audience or trannies but I think of Scott Cawthon attracting an army of gays and needing to tolerate them and act like they dont run contra to his core belief structure
>How can the dev gatekeep shit like trannies out of the userbase?
not pandering to them is a good start.
another step might be including some comic relief gay, predator/molester gay or a good religious character. These things work like a charm at keeping them far away.
Consumer bias. It's easy to scream at devs to keep making unprofitable niche content when you're audience of said content and your only concern is to be entertained VS the dev who pays his bills with sales money.
But the initial problem with why videogames inclusivity is bad is because of the fact that pop culture at large has been hijacked by politically invested corporations that turned pop culture into a vehicle for political propaganda and interests. I have no problem with a dev with a sociogical vision, but I do have a problem with people who say shit like "Videogames must be a tool to change society" because then, videogames become nothing more than interactive pamphlets for political parties.
does anyone have that old Ganker comic about this? it depicted normies joining a fandom and then the original nerds leaving. I think they were drawn as stick figures
“Gatekeeping” only works in much hobbies where the people you can interact with are limited and you probably have to interact with them face-to-face
I can’t see how you “gatekeep” a video game; if I bought a game I’ll play it. If you call me a homosexual it’s just words on the internet.
>unironically yeah, thats how whiny trannies deserve to be treated >if you dont keep trannies away from your space, that space will eventually become full of overly sensitive homosexuals and other b***hy shallow brained people, and by extension it will become unsafe for cool, free and tolerant folks
>keeping people with overly sensitive and intolerant views away from your fandom is precisely the poinr of gatekeeping in the sense of excluding others for sensible reasons such as being rejecting of the freedom and culture, being a poisonous b***h who wants to pitch people against eachother and people they dont like as villain, being constantly mad at people that mean no harm, etc
There isn't anything wrong with gatekeeping if it's only used to keep disruptive shitters out. The main problem is when you purposely exclude people you don't like just to satisfy your ego
all anyone has to do is go over to /b/ and see what e-girlcons are on a red board
4 months ago
Anonymous
e-girl should be once again allowed sitewide. There's no greater filter
4 months ago
Anonymous
the only reason pedophiles like you hate trannies is because they're you direct grooming competition
get fricked LGBTP
4 months ago
Anonymous
nice try, falseflag
4 months ago
Anonymous
This 100%, Gankerhu threads and c-team threads have next to no tourists in them, even the simplest drawing of e-girls is literal kryptonite for normalgays.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Reddit is filled with pdf files now too, more than ever, sometimes worse than here. Just check the azur lane sub for example.
4 months ago
Anonymous
This is very specifically a gacha game featuring cute girls, I doubt the people using or browsing that place also hang out in communities filled with regular normalgays who are angered by anime girls.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>e-girl = pedo
you're glowing, tourist-kun
4 months ago
Anonymous
It is the same thing to anyone that doesn't have your mental failing. Only a pedophile would try to get caught up in the nitty gritty there homosexual.
Gatekeeping doesnt work on a macro scale, you can gatekeep your discord or your friend group or your home, but you cant gatekeep MOVIES and VIDYA unless you tail these people to the game store and slap every game they try to buy out of their hands
Oh I don't think that gatekeeping is bad. I jusr think that screaming at normalgays is not what gatekeeping is and is nothing but childish self indulgence.
You gays are just happy that you have people to scream to and scream about, then you pretend like you're doing your part by parroting "Go back" to anyone who disagrees with your surface level political opinions. You're mad because you have zero control over who gets into Ganker.
>whole argument implies that you should not be here, and yet rebuke "go back" when you fully realize you don't belong here.
Hmm, that's a tough call, but I think I know what you can do.
So, I started getting into Pinball lately, and when I start checking out the online Pinball community, immediately I'm met by people saying tables I thought were cool are shit, or overrated.
And honestly, as much as I'm not going to let these people tell me what to enjoy, I am grateful for this, because it opens my eyes to other things I potentially could be playing that might be better.
What's so bad about this as a thing? You're so scared of being brick walled or told that you're wrong about something, that you'd rather just go nowhere?
I'm grateful that at some point in my life people basically bullied me out of only playing Nintendo games, not because I don't like Nintendo games, but because I was ignoring other stuff that was good, and robbing myself of enjoyment that way,
I'm grateful that at some point in my life people basically bullied me out of only reading science fiction and comic books, and made me pick up some other stuff.
the pinball "community" has pretty dogshit taste in boards, often times overvaluing the IP on the board over the quality of the board itself. KISS is a horseshit pinball machine but gay boomers smoked their first cigarette next to one so its EXCELLENT!!!!! the new weird al board looks pretty good tho mechanically
Because you don't need to "bully" people out of things to reach the same results. Having the attitude of a jaded, childish piece of shit is not necessary.
Not everyone can have that mindset, so it can end up counterproductive as people dig their heels in deeper. That isn't to say they should be accommodated, but a lighter touch would work well depending on the person.
Maybe, but all it takes is a cursory glance at all the raging autists on the internet to show people are more sensitive than you might think.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I have a right to be angry, and express my anger, if someone is making me angry. Why do you need to police everyone's behaviour?
it's literally healthy to get this stuff out.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I can't tell if you're shitposting or really missed my point in such an ironic way.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I'm always shitposting, but I'm also right.
I think of myself as the holy fool archetype.
Forget gatekeeping or "fitting in," instant antagonism just incites shitflinging in any circumstance. People on the internet take things personally and have meltdowns.
When I say "lighter touch," I literally mean something as simple as "lurk moar" as opposed to "kys you fricking idiot," when someone pops in asking a dumb question.
4 months ago
Anonymous
"kys you fricking idiot" pretty much is light-hearted ribbing in these spheres though.
If they actually hate you, they call you a normalgay or a Redditor.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You really think so? I came to the opposite conclusion the latter is almost always just a stand-in for "thing I don't like."
4 months ago
Anonymous
> I literally mean something as simple as "lurk moar" as opposed to "kys you fricking idiot,
Sure, fair.
It's simply not necessary. Good manners are very easy.
Saying "It's been this way since forever" to enable a bunch of childish fricks is a bad argument.
Make no mistake. There is a difference between banter and insufferable nagging from tryhards with shit taste who think the hobby belongs to them and their shit, unflexible taste is a list of rules to abide by.
>"Bullying" is part of how males interact >it's just a prank bruh!
You and I both know there's a significant chunk of people who use this as their excuse to just be cruel for no reason other than to feel better about themselves. Ribbing and messing with someone is not the same as outright bullying and only people who have never been on the receiving end would believe otherwise.
Yes, but there's a distinction between being like "LMAO, your have terrible taste in games, stop playing Bethesda slop", and "I don't like you because you have a fricked up face, and I'm going to follow you home".
>Change the hobby = disrupt the entrenched hierarchy by applying one's unique experiences in a way that btfos incumbents >Incumbents mad because their strict adherence to dogma didn't save them
Gatekeeping is dumb when it takes the form of rigidity that makes the endeavor more fragile. Decide what the core of the hobby is, defend that, be flexible with everything else. Otherwise the hobby dies and practitioners get persecuted for wasting their time on something without value.
This is why communities like Smash Melee keeps surviving. They are extremelly welcoming to anyone who wants to play the game and the only condition is to respect the community's goal of keeping the game alive by playing it at competitive level. The gatekeeper is the competition itself. If it's too hard for you, nobody is gonna put on kiddie gloves and padding to give you more of a chance. You lose and learn and listen to advice from more experienced players.
However, for the game and community to keep growing, you need flexibility, as you said and to be more inclusive of potential newcomers by not making up moronic fricking cultural rules that you Police harder than the fricking Gestapo. That only succeed in driving everyone away because nobody wants to be policed by a fatass tryhard who cares too much about his saturday night social club and thinks he owns it.
The literal difference between compgay clubs with simple rules such as "Play the game, respect tournament rules, no cheating, no foul play"
and
"NO FOX, NO SHEIK BECAUSE I HATE THIS CHARACTER, NO AERIAL JUGGLING, NO OFFSTAGE SHENANIGANS, NO EDGEGUARDING BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD AGAINST THOSE, NO Black folk, NO BATHROOM BREAKS!"
This is why communities like Smash Melee keeps surviving. They are extremelly welcoming to anyone who wants to play the game and the only condition is to respect the community's goal of keeping the game alive by playing it at competitive level. The gatekeeper is the competition itself. If it's too hard for you, nobody is gonna put on kiddie gloves and padding to give you more of a chance. You lose and learn and listen to advice from more experienced players.
However, for the game and community to keep growing, you need flexibility, as you said and to be more inclusive of potential newcomers by not making up moronic fricking cultural rules that you Police harder than the fricking Gestapo. That only succeed in driving everyone away because nobody wants to be policed by a fatass tryhard who cares too much about his saturday night social club and thinks he owns it.
The literal difference between compgay clubs with simple rules such as "Play the game, respect tournament rules, no cheating, no foul play"
and
"NO FOX, NO SHEIK BECAUSE I HATE THIS CHARACTER, NO AERIAL JUGGLING, NO OFFSTAGE SHENANIGANS, NO EDGEGUARDING BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD AGAINST THOSE, NO Black folk, NO BATHROOM BREAKS!"
yes, keep the core intact and btfo anyone who tries to tarnish it.
Now what is core exactly? That's somewhat open to discussion, some things more than others. I'd argue that fanservice has always been a part of FGC and always should be
I see gatekeeping mentioned on Ganker in cases where it doesn't actually work or could work. You can't gatekeep gaming companies. You can refuse to pay them/boycott them, protest them, but that's not the same.
I'm sure someone has posted it in the thread already, but the statement, "The only people who complain about gatekeeping are those being kept out," rings truer every day. Any time the masses find out about an obscure hobby, it never ends well. They demand everything be tailored around them, then frick off to the next popular thing while leaving the old thing in shambles. There's always a good reason to tell new people to frick off and lurk more, as if they're really willing to join, they need to show it.
>Any time the masses find out about an obscure hobby, it never ends well. They demand everything be tailored around them, then frick off to the next popular thing while leaving the old thing in shambles.
I've been saying this exact same thing for over 10 years and is sad it rings truer every single day
> [THING] exist > I'm going to redefine [THING] stripping its negative qualities > - Huh? Why do people even hate [THING], is this some sort of conspiracy?
Classic.
>gatekeeping bad
Ah yes, let everyone in and listen to what everyone says, the point of gatekeeping is so people who are interested will do the bare fricking amount to be a part of said hobby, letting people in who only see things from the outside not the inside is how things turn to shit.
>obscure game
When the hobby is actually starved for new participants, gatekeeping naturally tends to cease.
If people are getting gatekept, it's because new people aren't in demand and they'll have to get themselves into the hobby.
True, but it can't live for very long
Smash Melee has a constantly cycling competitivr playerbase. One of the foundating OGs hasn't been heard of in decades and the five Gods are all retired, yet, the community is still strong.
>mainstream popular franchise >people still go in and demand answers to questions that would take a single Google search
It's amazing how low the bar can be and people still demand it's lowered even further.
You don't help your cause by making it obvious that you are frustrated by your powerlessness to make people behave the way you want them to behave.
If those are your expectations, then you will make yourself miserable and it'll be your fault.
You didn't actually shoot me, you only envisioned it in your head to cope about the fact that you'll keep seeing me reply to your juvenile bullshit. I ain't dying Black person, deal with it, pussy.
Why don't you take all this babby rage and turn it on yourself instead?
Seeing you stab yourself incessantly in a fit of moron rage caused by anonymous nobodies having opinions you don't like would be infinitely more entertaining.
Stream it.
I actually did it a few months back and the pussy told me it was a 5 hours drive and to expect him in the following 72 hours.
He never showed up.
Too bad for you. You should have been in that thread, moron. Now look at you, powerless to kill anyone and stuck with all that tourette moron rage inside.
Do you have tourette? I bet you have tourette or something like that. I knew a dude with tourettes and he was si.ilar to you. Disagreeing with him on petty issues would lead him into smashing the TV with a baseball bat, then cry about it for hours.
That's a very sad and pathetic sight to behold.
>I actually did it a few months back and the pussy told me it was a 5 hours drive and to expect him in the following 72 hours
okay, do it again (unless you are lying which is more likely)
4 months ago
Anonymous
Beat on your TV instead, tourette autismo.
Or better yet, turn that knife on yourself and stream it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>wont post his home address under any circumstance to test that theory
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, I won't.
Choke on your anger. Be even angrier.
>wont post his home address under any circumstance to test that theory
>When the hobby is actually starved for new participants
A good hobby doesn't need more participants beyond the bare minimum.
>i am being...le gatekept? but my opinions are based and redpilled! i should be heckin gatekeeping these trannies! i'll tell them im going to kill them and beg them to post their address multiple times on an anonymous forum so i can borrow mummy's car and chicken out once i leave the driveway
Fun fact: if Ganker was better gatekept most of you homosexuals wouldnt be here and would be still posting in reddit, 9gag or whatever shithole you crawled from
Gatekeeping doesn't work. Gatekeepers aren't interested in the hobby. They're interested in feeling the slightest bit of imaginary power in their meaningless lives. Most gatekeeping tactics don't work anymore in this day and age, you can't bully someone out of a hobby. Your only dream is setting up a paywall for newcomers.
I'm not even sure what people mean with gatekeeping in this context. do you want anyone who is new to not join a specific hobby or just keep those out who try to forcefully change it to their needs?
Mild bullying to basically "see if they're cool", or to socially exclude them a little until the meet the standards of the group.
Like, if you run a serious film club, you don't let in every idiot who has seen Star Wars, while browsing their phone, because you want to maintain a certain quality of discussion. You want to know you're in good company with people respect and understand film. Not just time wasters who are looking to get into your thing either for attention, or social status, or to ruin it from the inside because they're just like that.
It's a basic thing that social groups just do, and it doesn't usually have to be explained because it's instinctual.
The correct way is to probe a potential member by gauging them before you invite them into your club.
You don't invite some dude into your private circle only to, then, start fact checking them. That's a moronrd approach and why gatekeeping doesn't work in the context of videogames communities because they are not private clubs at all.
Much like Ganker. Sure, lurk moar and blablabla, but the website is PUBLIC and is the top result of a simple Google search any 11 years old can easily perform. Of course the forum is going to be filled with fricking dumbshit morons.
Gatekeeping works in gaming. You can scream into the void all you like no one has to listen to you. You screaming louder is just proof people aren't listening to what you have to say.
You say that, but it's been incredibly effective over the years. How many of you people think there's something shameful about only playing Call of Duty or Madden, and it makes you "not a real gamer" somehow?
Why do you think that?
I don't hold these opinions at all.
If I have ever let Ganker influence my opinions through their shaming tactics, it was at the beginning of when I started browsing this shithole when I was in my early 20's and deeply insecure abkut my identity.
Now I'm 34 and taking dildos up my ass by my girlfriend. Why do you think I give a rat's ass about the literal essay you write about why I am not a true gamer? Play Madden all you want it's not my fricking business. I don't think there is a thing as a "fake gamer" or "fake fan" in any other context than the very specific type of person who gets into gaming communities for very specific personal gains and establishing positions of power. Otherwise if you're just the kind of fricker who plays Madden exclusively and says "lmao mario vros babby games are gay XD XD", you're just a moron in my eyes.
If gaming was reduced to only Madden, and if gaming culture consisted of people only talking about Madden, it would be shit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I have a problem with this specific slippery slope mindset. It's so easy making up hypothetical armies of strawmen that you picture as the harbinger of the destruction of your hobby when such dudebros have always existes in gaming. Just gatekeep them out of discussions that pertain to genres and games that they hate and don't play and you're good and most time you don't even need to try because they won't bother showing up at all, they'll buy their sports slop endlessly and be content with it forever as things should be in the balance of gamers and gaming communities.
The real problematic people are opportunists who get into the community through trojan horse tricks by pretending to have the wellbeing of the community at heart only to establish a power dynamic that works in their favor.
Much like what happened with AGDQ. I am not someone who thinks transgenderism is a problem, but it's obvious that the speedrun trannies of AGDQ schemed with the organizer in order to position themselves into privilege. Now the speedrun trannies have aristocrat status in the community and can choose to direct attention towards trans issues at whim. Goid for you if you raise awareness of the issues you and your community goes through, byt I'm here to watch speedruns and hear speedrunners explain their strats and have a good time doing it. When the whole even is 60% trans awareness, 10% being forced to watch ugly trans women who look like old uncle type men in clown makeup makeout in front of the camera and be way too comfortable with their degenerate behavior and 20% of the organization being no fun allowed for the investors and trannies, then yeah, now I have a problem. Madden dudebros are nobodies.
>hated being a moderator in anything, just want to take it easy and have a good time in groups i'm in >time after time again communities i'm a part of get ruined by new people that can't fit in or mentally ill morons that eventually subvert the entire admin team >eventually decide i've had enough and get into a position of power with a community i want to stay pure >have stamped out cancer after cancer ever since
Be the solution Anon. Become a mod, admin, whatever. Just don't be a janny.
You mean in the 60's I honestly don't entirely disagree. The whole dynamic of the Doctor being a kind of mysterious grandfather, and the whole Tardis crew having a family like dynamic is very kino.
You don’t debate the pros/cons of gatekeeping with the barbarian who wants to come inside. The people you’re trying to keep out have no say in whether keeping them out is a good or bad thing.
you don't literally gatekeep games. You gatekeep communities around the games. In the past this just meant there were a bunch of different communities around with their own quirks and shit. It's different now because devs actually pay attention and cater to these communities so whoever controls them, or the biggest one, has real influence over the game in question which is often a bad thing
Literally every community gatekeeps. You can't really form a community without it. What or how they gatekeep is a whole different discussion. Either way these discussions always essentially boil down to who is gatekeeping and what/how they are gatekeeping
>Remember when wanting to join a community of a hobby I just found out about >Have to become savvy with what the community likes, dislikes, and what may be a gray area >Seamlessly join the hobby's community because I'm not a shitflinging baby >Queue leftists forcing everyone to open up their communities >Hobby's community becomes more shit >Instead of appreciating things as they are >Shitbirds piss and shit and throw a fit until the hobby is changed and tailored to them specifically >Destroys the hobby >OGs of the hobby complain about how the hobby is now changed because of this small minority >Minority tells people to GTFO and if they don't like it create their own space >OGs do as told being the bigger men >Minorities who ruined the hobby get angry when everyone leaves because they ruined the hobby >Minorities go to the OGs new community and DEMAND to be let in
Rinse and repeat.
The only games I can think of that normalgays don't play are Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, Space Station 13, Dwarf Fortress and Elona+, and thats simply because learning the controls and figuring out the mechanics is too much a commitment for smoothbrained casuals.
based had someone I know drop WH40k because the dudes I introduced him to wouldn't bend to his gayness. Now he refers to WH40k as a "white supremacist" game dont even know why I talk to this homosexual still.
Same thing happened with my friend. He spiraled down into a dark descent over people not liking his personality.
All it took was people saying they don't want to play with him to his face a few times and he quit on his own.
>gatekeeping
What a moronic term to use with gaming. How the frick you going to “gatekeep” me. You can’t do shit. You can’t stop me from buying the game, play it, posting about it, making videos or watching videos about it. There is literally nothing you can. So how the frick are going to “gatekeep” me?
This is why I hate ironic nerds. >oh I'm a loser but it's ironic hahah!
No, go full neckbeard, say the cringe stuff like you mean it. Only then will the normalgays understand they don't belong
Ironic nerds are women into nerd hobbies to garner easy attention and weaker beta men adopting a hobby to fit into their friend group even if they don't have a real interest.
The guy off alone collecting coins or stamps is unironically the well adjusted of them. He's doing his own thing and not worrying about perceptions.
Tell me how in this day and age one can gatekeep a media that is by all accounts available everywhere? Do note that how this starts is that someone of the group posts things about the media in a place that people can easily find it. So unless the thing in question you want to gatekeep has little appeal for whatever reason a person can come up with, what is preventing another group that is more "open" that follows a similar media from just overtaking the old one in terms of being the "voice of the community"?
Because gatekeeping is not making people stay out of a hobby, it's making new guys understand and learn what the hobby is about and kicking out weirdos what want to fundamentally change the hobby.
The issue with that is that its easy to make multiple communities over what said hobby is and in turn, "different interpretations", especially if the people who are in charge of said hobby and its setups are not super-active to set things straight.
It wouldn't really take much if a popular thing of the moment ends up becoming big due to circumstances and the alternative "secondary" open groups which never understood or dislike the fundamentals of a thing cause of "reasons" are the ones who accept more people into the thing, especially the weirdos who want to change it even more. At that point I can see how it would spiral out of control out of being more vocal than the original group especially if the media is just openly there to consume and the devs or what have you don't know which is the wheat and chaff of opinions, especially if one side seems to be putting more money/attention out for it in the places they inhabit more.
Ive seen many games have 2+ communities in which the "official" community gets shadowed and effectively deleted by the trans/gay/terminally online community. Sorry that I play other games and cant post with the same frequency that a cracked out troony does fellas, but its not worth it. Look at the fricking godot discord. Trans people post every microsecond about fricking nothing.
Yep, can't entirely blame the original group cause of how a secondary set can just come in and completely overtake the voices of the original. Even happens with websites too, only hope is that the tide passes over with hopefully minimized damages or the spotlight isn't shine on them for it to happen from what I've experienced.
I hate to blog post but frickin >developing little game for funsies >want cappy mechanics >ask for help in Godot discord >3-4 trannies bite >2-3 "cant help you bud sorry" >last one basically ridicules my idea saying im just stealing from nintendo and why not instead use [his/shis mechanic instead] >"no thanks I really want a cappy/space station silicon valley mechanic instead" >they take offense that I dont want to make THEIR game now and say "if you dont actually want help then stop wasting everyones time"
I WILL make my game and I WILL exterminate you
Hold the line or get Marvel’d by “inclusivity”.
https://archive.org/download/MisterMetokurArchive/%5B2016-01-31%5D%20Marvel%20Comics%20%26%20Replacement%20Theory.mp4
Gatekeeping is impossible now, especially if you lack any actual influence.
If you're not a creator or any level of influence, you can't do shit. You're just screaming in the aether because there's no means of physically blocking anyone, keeping them out of the community at large, or anything. It's too massive and can literally be purchased and played anywhere.
So what can you actually do? Really?
Some level of gatekeeping is okay as long as it isn't entirely aimed at keeping everyone new out. New people joining in a hobby isn't a bad thing and I don't get veterans that entirely deride newbies because they aren't as knowledgeable, veterans also had to start somewhere too.
The problem I find is when you have newbies who aren't interested in learning how or why things work and try to shift the community to their sensibilities.
>I ACTUALLY LOVED THE GOYSLOP GAME WITH A troony IN IT DEVELOPED BY TRANNIES!!!!
Youre winning the culture war! Buy pepsi and stock in raytheon technologies, it OWNS THE LIBS
There are no trannies in the game you pink assed baboon. >muh bartender
That’s just a chick with a horrible voice.
They’re witches and wizards, if they want to change gender they can just cast a spell
>They’re witches and wizards, if they want to change gender they can just cast a spell
It's the same thing with DnD. There was even a standard (not sure if it's the right word, this isn't mass produced, but a known thing you can have made if rich enough) enchanted belt that changes you to the opposite gender when worn. Probably a number of spells to just do the same thing. Yet in a new in an expansion added to BG1 there is a sidequest to help someone become a troony and help them run away from their evil bigoted family. They can and regularly do ignore or retcon decades of old lore to write this shit.
What's so funny is that the game is pozzed and even has trannies in it. It's blackwashed historical England. The outcry was that JK Rowling was going to get some money from it. JK Rowling is a misandrist feminist that just disagrees on transgenderism but agrees with every single other far-left belief. That's it.
if hasan piker is buying your game, it is never based. Ganker are a bunch of morons who fought an invisible war over a game that neither helped nor hurt JK Rowling and I promise pottertrans gays all secretly bought the game
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homie FGC is already gatekept, this shit is happening because devs got tired of making games for the same 12 homosexuals to hop between. They're chasing new blood now.
They should've made a new fighting game series instead of following Dead On Arrival's footsteps, making game casual and "SAFE" for work audience, it literally is a Dead On Arrival with Tekken characters.
They would've killed Tekken either way or maybe made Tekken Vs Street Fighter, people have been wanting a follow up for it anyway set in more SF 2D style, so why they didn't do that makes no sense if they wanted to attract new players.
Tekken earns more money, that's it.
Same reason why movie remakes get pozzed, it's safer to just smear shit over the old thing and pretend it's new and improved
The truth is, at this point, if they can't pack in a meaty single player mode, fighting games as a concept are just kind of outdated.
Are most people going to buy one, when they can buy Elden Ring, and have a whole adventure, and PVP stuff? Probably not. The world has just kind of moved on from fighting games.
The first developer to put all the pieces together and make a game that's basically Yakuza, but it's also a competitive fighting game, I think is going to reinvigorate the genre.
Probably needs to be a straight up 3D game as well. Anarchy Reigns kind of had the idea, but fricked itself over for a variety of reasons (like the single player campaigns being pretty mediocre in the first place).
T8 is such a fricking joke >touch up existing characters to have HYPER REALISTIC SKIN >turn it into shittier 2d tekken that rips street fighter off >BUT LE GIRLS ARE PRETTY IT GOOD STREET FIGHTER SUCKS
T7 was good for all about 1 year, how anyone didnt see this shit coming is beyond me
The irony of these threads is that the people asking for gatekeeping are often the ones who will be gatekept, like those who get banned from discord for saying Black person.
Everytime normalgays see that word they immediately feel targeted because they know they don't belong here, the best they can do is pretend that everyone else besides them are those who should be gatekept then they try to make up new rules or resort to revisionism.
Yes we get it. You are an insecure failure whos trying to fill his depressing, lonely, pussyless void of an existence by "shunning" newcomers from his videogame communities. Let me kneel before your 500lbs royal presence as you spend another day being an unemployed loser.
Yes we get it. You are an insecure failure whos trying to fill his depressing, lonely, pussyless void of an existence by "shunning" newcomers from his videogame communities. Let me kneel before your 500lbs royal presence as you spend another day being an unemployed loser.
unironically, violent misogyny is also a great filter. Because it triggers gays and holes who must, at all times, disclose that they are holes. I don't do it because I hate women, I do it because is necessary. Is like racism, the true edginess is what keeps snowflakes away, that's the main purpose of being edgy on internet forums
Everytime normalgays see that word they immediately feel targeted because they know they don't belong here, the best they can do is pretend that everyone else besides them are those who should be gatekept then they try to make up new rules or resort to revisionism.
To be fair it happened on a higher level outside of what the community could've done,the most important members of the original team got progressively thrown out.
The biggest censorship change was spurred on by their circlejerk discord and twitter messages. If the community had rejected these people before they could achieve critical mass, the nudevs would have no incentive to change anything. The fact is the community degeneration was to blame, Skullgirls should have stayed a sexy/slightly raunchy fighter instead of some kind of social justice beacon for permanently online leftists.
Gatekeeping is an illusion. If the developers want to make a game more palatable to mainstream audiences a bunch of screeching nerds will have little effect on it.
The morons at Senran Kagura think they are gatekeeping when the truth is that no one is interested in their games.
Not even gorespam works on normalgays anymore, everyone is desensitived compared to a decade ago when the internet was still somewhat of a novelty to them. it's unsettling how small the gap is especially post-lockdown
>ITT: anti-social loners wonder why they're leaving their hobbies because they can't get along with other people
Seems to me like you are all the ones being gatekept
The only way to gatekeep is being a troony janny, and not even the homosexuals here that pathetic to sweep the floors for free, so only literal trannies and paid shills do this which is why rightists keep getting banned by leftoids everywhere
people shitpost for free daily for years, i find the guy that keeps posting "WHAT GAME LETS ME DO THIS" with shit that has noting to do with games much worse than janies at this point
? but it's true? you used to be able to get away with talking shit even here and now that social media took over and got hijacked by leftists it's been their rules forced on everyone, you even get soft-banned (aka canceled) irl now if they hate you enough
You talk like a moronic facebook boomer, even if you made a somewhat valid point.
Ganker used to be more hostile and self-sufficient with their own moderation, but after mods clamped down on those (notably GETposting), it's been a lot easier for outsiders to integrate along with their garbage ideas.
If you got banned from one forum back in the day, it wasn't that big a deal. You just found another one (hopefully not as b***hmade) and moved on.
Now you get kicked off entire platforms for refusing to kiss a troony's toes or saying the Black person word, then doxxed if you're really unlucky. Lefties are the gatekeepers of the internet now.
I regret not saving that one meme drawing about Gankertan ending up to hate a game Reddit started to "like". It was great and I expected it to be reposted
You won't get gatekept as long as you can blend in, that's why you read up on shit before you just stroll through the door.
Same reason nobody ever calls me a newbie, because I blend in.
the most effective way to gatekeep is just to create a strong, unyielding community of people with a strong, loud and proud culture. Have friendly yet strong and shameless banter with 0 concerns about the possibility of offending somebody.
The bad culture-ruining homosexuals that end up creating normalhomosexualry are typically overly sensitive b***hes too worried about morals and their dumb self righteousness. Create an environment that repulses them and give them absolutely no place to try and change things for the worse
I don't know I've had spergs go off on hour long rants because I made an offhand joke, and I'm not talking twitter trannies I mean on here, even if i say I was joking it just seems to anger them more
if Moshe tells you not to gatekeep, you know he's a foreign body.
"Gatekeeping" is conveying and maintaining traditional norms, which's the essence of culture. If a snozz wants to change our culture kill him or atleast let him present some non-pillpul argument for why his alterations are improvements. it will only be lies so yeet him into the sun
>want to get into hobby
>ask questions and do research
>actually attempt to engage
gays hate “gatekeeping” because it’s an acknowledgment that they’re just getting into it as a way of following some fricking trend or other bullshit to be popular or with it. If something doesn’t work for you don’t get pissed either put in more effort or find something else.
This. It's because to a leftist, all hobbies are subcultures. They don't play D&D because they like D&D, they play it because it's "part of their subculture".
That's a narcissist thing, and a woman thing, frankly.
>I don't want to have to "get in" to something, I want the thing to change to accommodate me.
You're even dumber than the homosexuals if you don't understand you're talking about yourself.
>WTF all these games have Black folk and women in them why can't I play games without them???? They should change the games they make to accommodate ME
/misc/ is just right wing Tumblr.
I'm not playing a game just because you put a woman or a Black person in it, bro. I'm especially not doing it if you went out of your way to replace a white man, because you have white man resentment issues.
I will play Street Fighter and X-Com, and ignore whatever weird cultural tantrum you're having over there.
You just described liberal ideology. There's a reason the democrat party voter base in the US is majority female
But that's based when it comes to politics. Politics is all about exercising power and changing the world to better suit you.
Some politics are actually about keeping power from being exercised and leaving people alone to live their lives. Kinda wild you ultimately get groups who work to increase their power and groups who have to work to stop the first group
>groups who have to work to stop the first group
Those groups are also working to increase (or maintain) their power. If they didn't view the first group as a threat, they wouldn't act.
I really wouldn't say it is. Liberalism at it's core is one of those very protestant things, that are all about individual rights and stuff.
Basically "if the King wants to come and take my stuff, he shouldn't be allowed to".
The fact that over time Liberaism has come to mean a degeneration of all societal standards to the point that we're left with nothing but the worst of society screaming in a puddle of their own shit, at anything they perceive as better than them, is in itself subversion. That's not what that thing is supposed to be.
I use the term classical liberalism to prevent people from confusing it with american liberalism.
classic liberalism is considered right wing ideology in America.
wanting to be free and have self autonomy is frowned up by the American left.
This gave me a chuckle I love you snowflakes who get upset because girls and people with coloured hair want to play THEIR hobby
>implying women don't literally ruin everything
name one thing. They even ruined femininity, when they were allowed to decide what it was.
This is why trannies are necessary, btw.
Don't let your virginal bias distract you from the discussion at hand. We're not talking about how much you hate women right now.
It's the core of everything. Women, and their incessant need to control, and domesticate.
Please keep focus on the discussion at hand. Nobody is interested in hearing you rant about b***hes.
That's fine, but I'm right.
The "ugh, no one le cares? Who even asked??" argument is also very effeminate.
>le effiminate argument
no one cares, no one asked. get out.
You are a girl, and you wear girl's bras.
im a pretty little princess with fat fricking breasts calling you a moronic /LULZ/ reject and to leave my board
Yeah? How fat are they?
Your bias is not an argument.
It's a bias based on an observable truth, like "sow your seeds in the spring", or "all men are rapists".
>It's all because of the Men of ~~*Wo*~~
Next you're going to tell me it's your job to care for Occidental Haplogroup B4.
Be calm, ham sandwich.
>They even ruined femininity,
Every single incel that says this troons out without fail. I'll see you in /lgbt/ in a few years talking about how transitioning made you feel happy and beautiful.
these soul-raped giga blackpilled post-post-post irony poisoned Black folk need to be rounded up and put into a mass grave ASAP
>but i am le joking hehe
i dont care, you ruin everything you interact with
your deep-seated suicidal yearning needs to be fulfilled as soon as possible
I'm not blackpilled, though. I think your virgin rage and hatred of women is your problem and mostly your fault.
I'm not being ironic, people like you are the reason this board and many others are insufferable to participate in on this site and you should vacate this mortal coil at the earliest opportunity; which given your virulent hatred of women who don't want to frick you and refusing to shut the frick up about it probably means you don't have much to live for anyway
>just repeats what he heard like an autistic parrot
yeah great, i would pin you to the floor and smash your face and throat in
i hate you pathetic post-ironic Black folk and would be vindicated if i sent at least one of you back to the bowels of homosexual hell you came from
go live your life knowing someone would stab you hundreds of time, little homosexual israelite
>i would pin you to the floor and smash your face and throat in
Yeah? Then what? Don't stop now, I'm, already half-erect
> people like you are the reason this board and many others are insufferable to participate in
not insufferable enough if you're still /here/
Based. Normalize figuring out where Twitter shitposters live and gunning them and their parents down in their living room.
>they play it because
Quite often NONE of them actually play D&D, they watch and listen to streamers and e-clebs play it
Or have evolved past DnD it other systems but still keep tabs on it like a superior overlord grognard.
this. shmups have survived this long as an intact genre by making credit feeding the most unsatisfying experience you could possibly have. you either have to learn the genre, or you will never even be able to comprehend why people like it in the first place.
It's funny watching people try to get into the scene and basically force themselves to get a 1cc as there is no other way in. Even people who are just trying to be there for the subculture get broken down and forced to enjoy the games on their own terms.
I remember downloading a huge gamepack from /vr/t/ that had at least 40 shmups in it. All the cave stuff, that festival game, everything on neo-geo, the works.
I tried a bunch and had an appreciation but found I only like the most casual and colorful shmups. I'm casual. Playing the games is what made me realize I'm not a real shmup fan I just don't have it in me.
I love the atmosphere and the vibe and the mindset behind the things though. It's like watching Karl Jobst to see the autism of speedrunning without being a speedrunner myself I guess.
This is me but with souls and soulslike games. I enjoy everything about them but I absolutely detest artificial difficulty and that’s what souls bosses are. When I do a boss fight in something like DMC, I have fun. When I do bosses in souls and soulslike, I do not have fun
I got this way with sekiro. It filtered me and I never went back to it. I've got 1000s of hours in the other ones lol. I need the crutches. I always play a paladin which has pve buffs and benefits.
I have a harder time with some of the bosses in DMC than I do Dark Souls.
People have such a strange perception of what Dark Souls even is. It's not even that hard of a game compared to games that were commonplace a few years earlier like DMC3.
They get intimidated by Dark Souls because it's Dark Souls, and then they complain about it, and demand it be made easier, when literally all of the tools are there, and you usually just need to level up until you do good damage, and roll out of the way of attacks.
To learn the SHMUP genre all you have to do is memorize each stage in and out and just remember to Korean Backdash away from bullets.
fpbp
Every community or hobby I've been interested in are welcoming to an extent.
And they all have their own cultures.
If you ask they will answer your questions.
But the issue with poor gatekeeping is culture.
Easy entry lead to undesirable people, like you mentioned trend chasers, who don't respect the culture that exists already.
And then they want to change it or cause issues trying to mold the community to their liking.
If you're entering a hobby the main thing a person should be does this communities culture work for me. Good or bad.
There's plenty of shit I'm into where the community sucks. I wouldn't dare try to change it because I couldn't, so I enjoy the subject but don't take part in discussions and associate.
And most of these people, who are women, hate that idea. They hate the idea of disassociating a hobby and the community.
>NO YOU CAN'T SAY MEAN THINGS TO EACH OTHER AS A WAY OF BONDING I DON'T LIKE IT
There are legitimately males who don't understand smack talk.
Girls who don't get it and b***h I understand but a guy who gets all sensitive about little bit of on mic banter?
Ruins the fun.
Muh toxic gamer bullshit
I think as many on the receiving end as those who do the ribbing dont get it, I used to quite popular before I decided to work from home and found out I had hurt someone who Id held in higj esteem from my ribbing. Sometimes it works and is fun, but you gotta keep it light.
Not really. The type of people that give/take harsh ribbing enjoy it, the kind that don't enjoy it won't ever mesh well with the ones that do.
That single difference is emblematic of deeper personality differences. You can still treat people with basic dignity even if you don't get along though.
God doesnt agree
He does actually. He wouldn't have created (you) as a fractal subcomponent of a greater whole if He didn't want you to truthfully interact with other subcomponents to come a true outcome.
That's the whole reason we're here.
bad foundation for your argument, your chosen cruelty is not God's doing
I'm not suffering any cruelties, life is a blessing.
Nice post. You ever wonder why you’re so much darker in complexion than your siblings and why your hair is nappy and their isn’t?
I agree.
If a person isn't giving it back then that's a sign they don't know how to trash talk or rib
It's the ribbers responsibility to realize oh he's not giving it back let me pull it back. And it's the one getting roasted responsibility to speak up "nah guys I don't play around like that."
>nah guys I don't play around like that."
What about that time you and the boys spent an afternoon blowing each and yelling No homosexual while slurping and sucking?
Stop talking and put my wiener back in your month, based b***h boy.
>ask questions and do research
>actually attempt to engage
Why do normalgays fail so hard at these steps? Not just on Ganker but in literally every other aspect and dimension of human culture and society.
I'm getting filtered by the bottom of the pic, what is it supposed to represent?
spiral: pedo rings?
mirror: mk-ultra?
sunflower: jesuit order?
Because they are entitled and feel no genuine interest in the thing. For them it is just another trendy social activity that they'll pump and dump as surrogate for personality.
Fippy bippy
It's badly raised children who don't know how to play with others.
agreed, it shows you were poorly raised, like if a child asks some children if he can join in their game and then start demanding that they change the rules for him
why did you even want to join the game in the first place if you hate everything about it?
>why did you even want to join the game in the first place if you hate everything about it?
Look up a woman named Barbara Spectre.
By the Gods...
>why did you even want to join the game in the first place if you hate everything about it?
It's always money or attention.
Anytime you're curious what someone's motivation is, try these two first and see if either fits.
They almost always will.
based
someone got so mad they had to delete the last thread. add something related to gaming in your post
It's innately gaming related. It mentioned a hobby in the image.
Jannies are just mad I included bait about lefties and discord raiders.
> I included bait about lefties and discord raiders.
yeah that's just makes it look inflammatory and baity.
Yes that's how making threads works.
how it should actually be:
When that's the environment, I just lurk until I know enough about the game and understand the flow of conversations enough to pass off as a relatively newbie.
As you should.
You are doing well, almost couldn't tell
Correct.
The same dumb motherfrickers who think this are the ones constantly crying about their favorite multiplayer games being dead (*cough* RTS genre *cough*)
We just need the original warcraft and starcraft rereleased
Everything goes through cycles. RTS will make a comeback one day, all it takes is one good game.
if there's ever a good RTS then the RTS fans will hate it and shun it
I think my biggest issue with RTS as a genre is that even the gold standards are fricking awfully balanced they are, if theyre well balanced theyre generally just not very fun or easily broken by stacking more of a bad unit. I think RTS is just too difficult for man to make well.
People who play RTS don't complain about the genre being dead, they're too busy playing games with people.
People need to learn that it is normal for a genre to have 6 man tournaments for a 30 year old age of empires version because it is when the genre peaked and those 6 guys are the best in the world even though only they care.
It's normal.
Except everytime an rts thread happens you have a dozen posts linking video tutorials how to play MP; and they'll answer any questions put forth.
Sounds clever until you realise this means all hobbies have exactly one person, or "Yeah well I mean let -me- in but then gatekeep others"
I like the former, everyone gets one hobby. I fricking claim shitposting. Now frick off my board.
>let me in
That's the point, if you think you need someone to "let you in" then you already failed the test.
So that's a yes to the former? why haven't you left? Or are you lying? Shitposting is mine, I was here first.
100% correct
spoken like a true tourist. You failed to understand the meaning behind picrelated. Now frick off.
This sounds like something "change the hobby" people say to themselves to cope.
>making shit up in your head
This sounds like something "let me in" people say to themselves to cope.
>falseflag
I don't know, while I did brute force my way into some games I wish the toppers in a lot of games weren't such self righteous gays.
I've seen a handful of games sort of wane and die due to aggressively shitty communities.
Some games:
Lethal League
Fistful of Frags
while games like Toribash I've never had a single problem with people and it's a dead as frick game, so maybe i'm biased
i don't like hand-holding, but some people learn better when being taught as opposed to self-teaching
again not that it's anyone's obligation to teach other people
idfk
FoF died because the dev is a moron that kept changing things for the worse.
This is perfectly fine. The "guard" will only get you in if he thinks you are part of the hobby already, learn and become part of it and you'll join right away.
Basically, lurk moar.
>tfw visual novels gatekeep themselves by being antizoomer and antinormalgay
Many niche mediums wishes they had a system tihs perfect
VNs naturally gatekeep because zoomers hate reading
"Gatekeeping" as journos describe it is impossible. There is no franchise or hobby that I could not find out about and get into. The problem is they feel lie they're entitled to a fast track to being in on the conversation. They are uncomfortable with the idea of lurking and learning. I don't even really blame them because some karma hungry redditor has served up what they're looking for every day for years now.
When you are lurking and learning, you're only getting by because the people in the community are sharing instead of gatekeeping. Most human knowledge is shared, then at some point someone just decides not to.
you didn't understand gatekeeping then. Human knowledge has always been gatekept because of it's inherent value. Ancient artisans didn't just share their crafting techniques with other artisans, only with their most trusted colleagues and apprentices.
Knowledge and information was always gatekept, and always will be.
Most based and truthful answer.
The gate is not a fricking wall, it's a toll booth and it filters newfriends from newbies
correct
I agree with the principle, but how does it work in practice? What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game other than telling people in chats/message boards to frick off?
Ignore low quality posters. Ganker unfortunately lacks skill in this respect.
The people that b***h about gatekeeping are usually overly sensitive homosexuals that whine on sites like twatter, that usually is enough. But also calling out why they were “gatekept” is a good way. Because 90% of the time it’s because people didn’t cater to what they wanted.
> Because 90% of the time it’s because people didn’t cater to what they wanted.
this is pretty much it. Gatekeeping is natural and was invented as a concept to shame communities into accepting bad actors.
We can't. Our hobby is all commercial products. All commercial products want more customers. We're doomed. Before we were able to gatekeep on forums and here but now all the normies have the internet and everyone is using X and twitch and shit now which are also corporate for profit endeavors. And prominent community members also play nice for follows or profit too. It's over.
Be rude when people are behaving like an obnoxious outsider who just walked in off the street. Don't spoonfeed aggressively.
Ignoring them doesn't work because they can outnumbwr the old guard. You have to repel them.
Ganker has a gatekeeping centered culture and it's mostly based on bullying newbies.
When I see bullying on here, the newbie starts acting persecuted as a "bastion of good taste" and other newbies gather around, causing endless shitflinging.
Well, anyone after like 2011 is a newbie or worse, right? I imagine you'd be hard pressed to find many oldgays.
'07 and beyond is newbie era
Right, I was thinking cancer.
>Just outmeme them.
When that happens, they either start shitposting or leak IQ points to stay in denial that they were wrong, usually both.
At that point, you have to ignore or things get really obnoxious for everybody as they will post until archive for the last word more often than not.
Personally, I try until I notice someone's a real asshat and just disengage. I think that's the healthiest thing, both for discussion and myself.
The discussion and yourself are battles. Ganker or whatever game community is the war. You're fighting to survive, not to win.
Once they start leaking IQ points and having a melty, the meme game is easy, especially if you aren't a pantywaist you can just choose a pejorative and start leaning into it. Most times you can be safe with calling them third worlders because that's the main source of pollution on the internet and in game communities for the West.
Fair enough, I suppose.
This, it’s especially easy since most morons argue exclusively by spamming shitjaks and chad memes. If that fails they usually default to samegayging to appear like they hold a majority.
I usually just start posting reaction images and they frick off very quickly. If you've been around for a while your reactions folder should be like the soviet union compared to their Nazi Germany, just churn memes out with sage enabled until they leave. Also, jeets hate being called jeets.
Honestly, I try to avoid ad hominem beyond "moron", "autist", and "schizo," but bait images have worked in the past, so maybe I'll try that sort of thing more often.
It's fun if, like me, you can't walk away from arguments easily
been like that a long time, but something clicked one day and I started seeing those kinds of "conversations" aren't worth having since, on top of being stupid, the other person is incapable of truly hearing anything you have to say from their very first post.
If it helps thread quality then maybe, but why bother otherwise? I just get miserable.
>I usually just start posting reaction images and they frick off very quickly
based and shitpostpilled
Yes but remember the truth of internet discussions. 90% of the talking is done by 30% of the users. You have to behave properly no matter what and hope the bystanders see what's up. The newbie is never about to make a reasoned argument that holds up. Just outmeme them.
>Ganker has a gatekeeping centered culture and it's mostly based on bullying newbies.
It's too bad this hasn't really been the case since 2009 or so. If it was, /LULZ/ would still be a fun board instead of a foreveralone circlejerk, and /misc/ would've been bullied so hard moot wouldve changed the board name back to /new/ just to spite the tourists. instead, we allowed the subhumans to outnumber any oldguard left and now Ganker is just /misc/-lite with occasional vidya discussion
Sounds like you were the one that got gatekept.
>tfw didn't gatekeep hard enough and the ones who i tried to gatekeep reverse-gatekept me out of the gate i originally kept
It's funny in a sad kinda way isn't it?
You ostracize the person you don't want in the hobby. You make them feel not welcome.
And then all the people with the common ground of being ostracized make their own community that starts to grow and overtake yours out of spite. Many such cases.
Banning or ostracization is the best method. It's how we denazified most fandoms.
>denazified
lmao moronic commies never get old. Everybody who isn't a party member is a fascists.
>muh banning
>ostracizing
>denazified
nice try tourist. You are the one who is not welcome
I have several servers for an online game which I'm passionate about, two e-friends and me actively police them to cultivate an environment that keeps the core gameplay of the game intact where people who actually give a shit can play the game the way it was meant and play it in peace. We get rid of anyone who doesn't learn, respect and disrupts the game. Depending on the person its a 1-14 days ban or a permanent ban.
You either get it or you don't and if you dont and don't care to learn you get the door, simple as.
Exelent, this is gatekeeping from the top. I'll give another 2 examples, one bad and one good.
>Kojimbo, when asked about why he made the cumbait character Quiet, came up with a bullshit pseudo intellectual excuse. This opens the door for gays who are anti fanservice, because it justifies their moral horniness, because it allows them to police what they might deem immoral fanservice while keeping their "ethical fanservice"
>Yoko Taro when asked by the Android 2B was so sexy he simply said that's what he likes. This btfos any tone policers right from the gate. "It's there because is sexy. Don't like it? Frick off". There's no nuance to it, no openings. Is honest about it's target audience, which makes it harder to penetrate by antis.
>dont like it, frick off
Its funny that you think Nier Automata gatekept anyone at all.
>sexy fighting androids with no lame excuses as to why they're made to be sexy
It gatekept the moralgays and the screeching feminists who hate the male gaze.
it didnt and it sold more than nier replicant, and it sparked a more approachable more digestible Nier replicant. Nier as a franchise is bigger than ever before. Noone is outside the gate and I bet you could google 2B/9S trans cosplay and find plenty. Nier is a very gay adjacent property
nothing you said is even remotely related to my post you absolute mongoloid
>I bet you could google 2B/9S trans cosplay and find plenty. Nier is a very gay adjacent property
But that would be acceptable in this context. Not all gays/troons hate beautiful, scantily-clad women
>uhmmm trannies are actually based
excellent gatekeeping! When did your egg pop or crack or whatever?
You shall not pass, troony.
Stay mad gay. No one likes you troons.
that and it's a pretty generic game
i group it with normie altcore like persona
>You've been permanently banned
>Reason: Go back to COD/BF/Siege
That's the thing, it doesn't really work out because most of the time people that would want to gatekeep aren't in a position that allows gatekeeping, can't do shit about phoneposters if phones are allowed to access the website you know. People who say shit like "we should have gatekept videogames", "we should have gatekept the internet" don't really consider how they could really have gatekept, nor what they were doing at the time. I'm still of the same opinion that it was cooler when the internet and videogames were more niche, and that's ultimately the point people want to express when they say shit like that.
The most common implementation of gatekeeping is in smaller communities instead, but it usually boils down to "you do not have the same views as us so we will ostracize you until you leave" which can be anything.
this. what the frick are you going to do
>PUT THE CONTROLLER DOWN YOURE CASUAL AND WE DONT WELCOME YOU HERE
if that finds any efficacy you just look like a schizo and make yourself a target for the normies, also people will see you and say "who the frick put you in charge" Id like to take a minute to just say that DnD has always been a gays and queers game.
Read the thread, anons already stated a myriad of ways to effectively gatekeep.
Nothing over what I'm skimming over sounds like it's gonna help with gatekeeping when done by the average user, what I'm seeing sounds more like attempting to keep newer users out of a community rather than making sure only decent users stick around, and the cases of filtering users so that the decent users stick around just don't happen most of the time. You're more likely to run into trolls deliberately saying contrarian things just to get a rise out of people than genuine people, and people will respond every time. People who actually have a serious contrarian opinion either don't browse here or they discuss elsewhere and still browse the place.
Actually getting good users for a community is an ongoing dilemma because of how fricked the internet has gotten over the last decade, but an average user gatekeeping stuff is not effective, the gatekeeping would have to happen at the authority position for it to have some effectiveness unless it's a smaller community, in which case it's the aforementioned "you have different views so go away". Having an exaggeratedly hostile userbase doesn't help either, all it means is that the newcomers will be hostile just to fit in and that the community is at risk of being autistic because they're talking about the same shit over and over with no new blood joining the fray, if you want to see what that leads to just check the >>>/vg/ threads.
As much as I dislike talking to casuals I still think Hiro's hands-off approach was one of the better outcomes for the site, it couldn't be helped that the rest of the internet went to shit and that the social media'd users would gradually arrive here and act moronic, but at least there wasn't any big drama or very questionable management choices that ruined Ganker, the only real difference is the userbase. I just find it kinda bad there's no alternative for non-casual users, other than the other vidya boards.
Brutally blackpilled, but true.
I agree that your arguments are true anon. Ganker is brought down by the internet overall having gone down to shit, there's little that can be done about that.
But communities, made up by individual users, can engage in organic gatekeeping such as in
.
The bar is insanely low and most anons don't even meet that. If every user who even remotely cares about this just does those three things, board quality would go up substantially, with no authority meddling required. I can do my part, and so can you.
You can be much more toxic than that in multiplayer environments
With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders
>With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders
>Discord
Kek and Ganker hate this ways lol
>And then all the people with the common ground of being ostracized make their own community that starts to grow and overtake yours out of spite. Many such cases.
That right, this why gatekeeping wont work
>With forums you can also lock critical information behind insider communities (like discords or whatever) so that they become opaque to outsiders
slippery slope. I don't want to have to join a million different discords with powertripping mods and shit communities to find some niche information on a hobby/game i couldve found on a message board 10 years ago.
Well that's the compromise moron. Either you centralise power in the hands of a small number of people who are able to gatekeep your community or you can't gatekeep effectively
thats not a compromise moron, you're arguing for centralizing information useful/critical to a hobby to something as impermanent as a glorified teamspeak server
Do you not know the definition of compromise you dumb homosexual?
doing your own research is also successful gatekeeping. By going out of your way to find stuff out without forcing others to spoonfeed you, you are earning your ingroup badge
kanji is the ultimate gatekeeper, just play games that dont have english translations and never will
Back in the day the act of gatekeeping was merely forcing people to work to understand the hobby they were getting into. As they did this they acclimated to the community around the hobby.
Now that's impossible because everything's made simplified to attract the most amount of customers/users
you can't
gatekeeping isn't real
the entire concept is just another thing for attentionprostitutes to complain about so they can get more attention and money through said attention but no one actually gatekept them
This is true. Gatekeeping was coined by tourist who were facing opposition in their attempt to infest target hobbies.
>but how does it work in practice?
Read the thread. Also read the thread. It is the answer to your question twofold
>What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game other than telling people in chats/message boards to frick off?
You double and tripple down on supporting whatever the normies and tourists want to change. Write posts of appreciation about these things, make threads, create content.
And if you get hate thrown your way by the Twitter/Peddit mob, you quadruple down on it. Insult some homosexuals if you need to. Just never, EVER budge, not even an inch.
>Just never, EVER budge, not even an inch.
I really hate that it has to be that way. I end up having to stick to every bit of minutia since they carpet bomb the hell out of the tiniest good faith admission.
I dont like it either, but they're the kind that WILL take the whole cake if given the tiniest slice. They're buttholes by nature and deserve no empathy or voice whatsoever.
By not catering to newbies by spoonfeeding them when they should just lurk moar. By keeping the conversation niche and using ample in-group lingo.
By not self censoring or dumbing down the conversation for entitled tourists who seek to warp the space to suit their sensibilities.
Example 1
>Elden Ring/Souls thread
>A: "Damn UGS crouch poke op. STR ftw!"
>B: "I like spellspam, Dual SoL NC INT cap"
>C: "CT + RBF + SsGs Jump Attack"
>D: "Could you explain what any of that means?"
>A,B,C: "Lurk moar"
Here you see a conversation which is about buiilds and playstyles, ingame plus ingroup knowledge allows for condensed typing and efficient conversation between A, B and C. Then comes D and wants a free seminar.
Here's why is counterproductive to spoonfeed D: Had he had ingame knowledge he would've understood at least some of the conversation, but he didn't, thus the conversation isn't even relevant to him in the first place, and if he did then he wouldn't have needed spoonfeeding anyways.
Example 2:
>WH40K thread
>A:"And then the Slaneshy cult raped the whole planet"
>B:"Damn that's crazy! The Eldar would've made living furniture out them instead!"
>C:"Umm excuse meee?!?! Don't talk about genocide and rape so casually, that is NOT OKAY!"
>A,B: "FRICK OFF, TOURIST"
In example 2, A and B refuse to tone down their conversation in order to appease a tourist who cannot stomach the grimdark themes of 40K. The tourist, unable to police the space, will eventually leave.
ahh yes, the well guarded niche subjects of Elden Ring and Transhammer 40k. BRAVO! GAMING IS SAVED
Haha, salty homosexual gatekept from WH
>well gatekept
pretty sure all of games workshops new figures are women and Black folk. You morons should have made an open source legally distinct 3d printable version ages ago
Sorry, I don't play AoS, I wouldn't know.
>literally reverse gatekept as his hobby moves further away from him
lmao you sure showed him!
>I-I don't play AoS, so it's okay
homie AoS and 40K are owned by the same fricking company. You think they're not gonna do it to both?
>Haha, salty homosexual gatekept from WH
>meanwhile AoS is now nothing but Strong Blak Wahmen and 40k is making partnerships with Disney and pushing articles about how important diversity is for your wife's mixed son
this also
>gay ttg for socially disenfranchised rejects like gay and at the time fat social reject Henry Cavill
>now gay fat trans BLACK social rejects join in
>NOOOOOOO MY PERFECT HOBBY FOR ONLY WHITE FAT STRAIGHTS
dont play gay games for rejects if you dont want gay rejects to join your hobby
>missing the point entirely
consider yourself gatekept, gay
>Zoomerspeak is good when we do it
>old game forum abbreviation is le zoomer speak
you are too young
I keep it to small, personally curated groups of friends that I know and rarely make/introduce new ones.
Damn, time for my yearly rewatch of OS. Thanks for the reminder anon
My brothers i'm joining you
Ignore anyone who decries it because they expect the world to shift itself to them and you cannot rationalize with someone who is insane.
Gatekeeping doesn't actually keep anyone with a genuine interest in the hobby out, it only affects bad actors
who are coincidentally the ones who complain about gatekeeping
Don't we literally have threads ulom threads of people complaining about having to join obscure discords and shit for information and specific mods and such?
I'd argue that the problem with those is more that the mod-creators are attempting to create a "community" to gatekeep to begin with.
Most of these discord servers and forums rarely have any barriers to entry, but they just want you to join and make the members number go up to make the creator feel important. The reason why those forums and servers are always so empty is because most are just there to get a download link and get on with their day.
Nobody wants to form a community over mods, they just want to download the funny meme add-on and see it in their game, and some homosexuals just can't accept that is the extent of the relationship.
MUGENarchive is one of the worst sites I've ever had the displeasure of using because of their rampant "Muh Community"gayging.
gank newbies
camp newbies
scam newbies
basically make being a new player as awful as possible in your favorite game.
Why the frick do gatekeepers, the really really dedicated ones, always talk in some insufferable prose?
They talk like they're role playing as a religious crusader, fighting as if they're in an active siege. They use terms like 'old guard', 'purity', 'degeneracy', and treat the hobby they're defending as an actual castle.
Brb, gonna gank newbs in Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
>Why the frick do gatekeepers, the really really dedicated ones, always talk in some insufferable prose
If this is what it takes to keep shitters like YOU out then I'll be the most cringe obnoxious pos imaginable and make my hobbies look unappealing by extension, like a coat of venom to protect it from predators.
And by what you just typed, it's working.
Seems like it also works to keep people interacting with you irl.
>dude IRL
good thing this entire conversation is framed within the context of the internet. Nice try, gay.
Look at what they tried to do to Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
The only ones with the power to gatekeep in the digital age are the actual game developers.
You can't. Its up to the creators to decide on who they intend to create the game for. Just so happens that the money is on casting as wide of a net and being as omni-pandering as possible. You really need an autistic developer to make games for particular kinds of audiences. On the other hand, smaller communities you can gatekeep, like monoglian imageboards, dis*ord, veddit and facebook marketplaces but do mind how fricking shit it is to be a moderator
Simply add both sexy and cute characters in your game, this will naturally filter the people with an underdeveloped amygdala, ie those you don't want in your community, they are your typical feminists, twitter psychos, gore posters, and control freaks.
I wonder if increasing the number of reaction images featuring cute anime girls would also increase the quality of the site as a whole by passively discouraging tourists and normalgays from posting.
>increasing the number of reaction images featuring cute anime girls would also increase the quality of the site
have you been in a coma the last several years? Literally the opposite is currently the case
see
When you spam this shit non-stop you dont gatekeep anyone, you're just being obnoxious, who do you gatekeep when going into a milsim fps thread and avatar-gayging with pics like these? homosexuals like you are like unsocialised dogs, you simply dont know how to behave with others and when to stop shitting where you eat. You think anyone who hates this shit is a normie trying to encroach on your space when in reality a lot of people are simply fed up with your obnoxious, unrelated spamming and injection of fetish shit in every discussion.
Didn't read, get out of my anime website you pest.
I don't know, man. Spamming anime girl reaction images used to be the norm around here. Maybe he's on to something.
Anime also wasn't normalgay shit fifteen years ago.
True, but don't normies still despise e-girl?
Sort of? They're kinda bipolar, like with kana from the dragon maid anime and megumin, like there are "safe" e-girls for them to lewd but anything else is moralhomosexual screeching
Technically still isn't, show a normalgay anything crazier than entry level fotm shonen and they spas tfo
It is in the way video games are
Outside of completely off the walls stuff like e-girl eroge and shit, they pretty much are either aware or play of everything else
True, the first episode of Akogarete already made normaloids furious (shame the animation quality is subpar).
>When you spam this shit non-stop you dont gatekeep anyone
it gatekeeps (YOU)
I can't testify that posting cute anime girls triggers tourists on sight
Going too unironic makes you look like a pedo. Gore does the same thing in keeping newbies out without putting you into an unwanted group.
Larping as a normie also works for the super ingrained discord types. When they go down a rabbit hole about topic x in a shitpost just proclaim you didn't know about any of that cool info and ask them if they have any loresage info about something else inane.
>Gore
Does it? Gorey videogames still seem to get invaded. Like Fear&Hunger
>Going too unironic makes you look like a pedo
good. Confounding e-girl with pedo is the hallmark of a normalgay. The more unironic, the better.
>Confounding e-girl with pedo
No you dumbass people outside your insane fetish don't both with this distinction. At all. You are just a pedophile.
very intelligent, thank you anon
Ooh, that's a good Malon. Saved. Thanks for posting, anon
Put a decent amount of e-girls in your game and have enough degenerates being really passionate about it
>Harem dicky game
>"why aren't you pandering to people who don't like harem dicky games??? Don't you realize they won't play your game if you don't pander to them???"
These creatures aren't even real I swear
>Blue Archive not appealing to non-coomers will hurt revenue
What
>What can you actually do to gatekeep a video game
you make shit up to put people off it. shit that sounds real enough to be possible, but buried too deep to find without actually playing the game, but the person wouldn't want to play the game because of how dissuaded they were by what was talked about.
could be some identity politics shit buried in a discord server, could be a bad game mechanic that only shows up 4 hours in, could be anything to make it look unappetizing to the normie palette.
it's the Iceland half of the Greenland-Iceland strategy,
Remember that time, during the height of election bullshit, some relatively new account came into an obscure Doom modding forum and made a post that basically said "Hello everyone, I'm here because there's some heckin' awful nazis going around online, and I think we need to make sure we ban all the nazis we find here!" and everyone told the guy to frick off and stop shit stirring for no reason? Like that.
That never happened, you're just making up imaginary boogieman
I know you're trying to bait me into posting the screencap but sadly I don't have it. Hopefully you've riled someone else up enough who does have it.
It's not that hard, make sure whenever they come into a hobby that they've shown a respectable amount of effort that they're into that hobby and aren't just there to be a tourist. They also have to respect the media that the developer and writer intended for it to be.
That's pretty much it, only spergs would ask for more than that since at that point the new guy would have to pretend to be an oldgay.
Trannies are the only people that dislike gatekeeping, for obvious reasons.
I agree. Gatekeeping the industry from gimmick peddlars and shills is a grand idea.
>/pol/gays want to be Gankertards
>keep screaming NO THIS IS A troony GAME FOR homosexualS BECAUSE I SAW A SINGLE BLACK PERSON
>REEEEE I'M BEING GATEKEPT
and the poltards answer always is I won't play it....
unlike the libtard that goes on twitter and cries about it until it gets changed
based. bring back gatekeeping. redditBlack folk and newbies deserved to be bullied
>left, male PoV: adapt to environment, enter hierarchy where your position might not be the leadership
>right female PoV: change environment to your liking, enter a circlejerk where everybody is equal or else
The trick to keeping a hobby healthy and going is to detect the numales who want to get laid and inject whamyns into the hobby and kick them out before they have a chance to do so.
>The trick to keeping a hobby healthy and going is to detect the numales who want to get laid and inject whamyns into the hobby and kick them out before they have a chance to do so.
Lol
Lmao
Reminder
I just find it sad that people bother to draw this shit
it's such a sick persecution complex
games workshop never once cared about your homosexual warhammer "CULTCHA" they only ever cared about selling you more overpriced unpainted toys.
>Guys on the left playing Warhammer
>Everyone on the right playing fricking beer pong or some shit
>Drunk tourists come over
>Their indifference to actually playing the game is made evident when they give up at the first sign of resistance
>Guys on the left continue playing Warhammer
Hadn't looked closely into the picture, but it's really funny that all those tables are not even half made and those people are doing anything but playing the game they supposedly are being getekept from.
funny, indeed
I wonder if it was actually intentional
>guys on the left are in their own private room
>normie, dumb Black person and quirky girl (if actually girl) automatically translate "private" to "elite" in their heads
>rest of "their" side is a public space full of girls, jocks, Black folk and, for some reason, one redhead cripple, who is most likely soulless and can't into immersion
I mean, i can understand their wish to join slightly less moronic society, but their "math" and "logic" skills are too low to pass all required checks.
>I posted a shitty comic where you are portrayed as the stupid one. I win!
nice gay. You still don't belong
So if they have their own tables why do they want to force their way into his?
Did the moron who made this not realize what his own image was saying
>leftists
>thinking
thanks for the laugh mate
normalgays and weak men ruin everything, yes.
>make hobby
>frick up and accept the wrong people
>"frick now we can never again engage in the hobby we created
This image never stops being mystifying
regarding vidya, people on Ganker would be those who joined around stage 2 or so, at best. we're not the people who created the hobby, most of us don't have the skill or time to create games, especially not enough of us to create some new community or zeitgeist around them that mimics what we had in days past. All we can do is orbit around the games that actually do get made, and if the hobby has degraded to a point that most of those are shit, we are powerless to do anything about it. Which, honestly, just makes all the b***hing about it even more pathetic.
If this scenario happens to you, you almost deserve it.
What are you doing letting unreliable frickers into your social club who starts inviting whoever in regardless of the rest of the members' take on it? Either you're a spineless pusdy or your club is public.
We had two instances of troublesome people in my DnD group and both times they got disposed of the moment they started making trouble. One was an autistic girl with a E-girl aesthetic who tried to frick the DM's boyfriend. She was out before she even got the chance to play a game with us.
And I'm sure some of you will picture "Autistic girl with E-girl aesthetic" as some fricking Onlyfans bombshell and say "based", but no, she wasn't cute at all.
Best way to gatekeep is simply not talking about it. Real clubs work like secluded secret organizations. That's why secret orders of X and Y never included women and were difficult as shit to get into.
It's a metaphor for the whole games industry.
>It's a metaphor for the whole games industry.
But it's fricking stupid as a metaphor. The games industry is a thing that grows regardless of your actions, whereas a hobby you personally make with a friend is unlikely to do so without you direct intervention. And even if it does, nothing prevents you from continuing to enjoy it in that exact state.
The irony of this statement is that a weak man is crying while saying it on an anonymous imageboard
You can't gatekeep anything, you probably don't even have friends
Where did you get that silhouette of me?
I'm putting together a calendar and my assistant slid your headshot across my desk.
Is she cute?
You know it. Really dumb too, likes to drink on the job.
Lol no.
>You know it.
I don't, post pics.
Sadly I don't have any but help me out with if I'm reading this wrong or not
>barges into my bathroom
>tells me her thing is voyeurism while tipsy
>gets shwasted on the job
>passes out in miniskirt
I'm supposed to be taking pictures and jerking off right?
This is extremely interesting anon, please tell me more about this woman.
homie stop erping in my thread
There's only 1 person larping here and that's not me.
>no u
>ad hominen
How many updoots have you accumulated today, fellow redditor?
>enter a circlejerk where everybody is equal or else
this is absolutely not how normalgays operate, if anything is the contrary
based manly communities have some more equity and freedom. Normalgay troony communities ALWAYS have some giga powertrippy hierarchy of copious wienersucking to enforce their beliefs and shun people that offend their fragile existence. Then this minority forms built from dipshits that jerk others off enoufh to rise while the other normalgays dont see the issue, are too eager to seek acceptance and approvement or the in group to the point theyre biased and in favor of everything they say, and will inevitably bandwagon in favor of whatever their troony leaders want
In my own experience running around Twitch and engaging a few small Discords, people just do not engage with anyone they disagree with, even if the disagreement is completely respectful and free of condescending homosexualry. Most of them isolate into insular groups where everyone agrees with and reinforces each other, and dissenters either get treated like shit until they leave, or simply get banned.
It's very easy to tell the difference between tourists who need to be gatekept and wholesome new blood. Tourists will start out with nebulous everything questions and demand to be spoon fed with; What's the best class? What's the best build? What's the best weapon? What's the best farming spot? These are the people you tell to frick off and figure it out. New cool guys will have legitimate questions about the nuisance of game mechanics.
This anon gets it
It reads like chatGTP
>New cool guys will have legitimate questions about the nuisance of game mechanics.
One of those words doesn't fit. He meant nuance I assume.
It's easy. Just keep out secondaries who don't actually play the game.
Except for the fact that the people who joined it are changing it from the inside not from the outside.
why do female sororities gatekeep against me, a male, trying to live in one? being male or female is a backwards ideology and should have absolutely no impact on where I lay my head to rest.
It's nothing but ego inflation. Don't kid yourself, narc.
>"open-minded" discussion about an explicitly closed-minded philosophy
>Monism
You're the ones who need to be gatekept you don't talk about games you just talk about gatkeeping and other sjw bullshit.
t. gatekept
>about gatkeeping and other sjw bullshit.
Ganker never talks about gats, they talk about videogames you DINGDONG. If you want to talk about gats go to /k/.
>Ganker never talks about gats
Excuse me?
Reboot sort of ate all SR threads like Saturn eating his children.
Gatekeeping is barely real, youre not going to stop twitter queers from san francisco from writing about games and changing everything.
well, you can't gate keep something as abstract as video games. Everything that has deviated from pong and mario has changed video games. Including the games you like.
Yes, but video game culture, and video games are two distinct things.
Basic "gamer culture" etiquette, like mocking people who are shit at games until they get better, are good, and should be encouraged.
People end up leaving their comfort zone, and being better at games. Companies are less pressured to make everything for a lowest common denominator audience who can't deal with the slightest challenge, so established franchises don't all gradually turn to shit.
if only youd been angrier on twitter you could have saved gaming
I don't have arguments on Twitter. That's not what the platform is for, moron.
It's for sharing snippets of information, and memes.
well thats where all the people you hate who consider themselves a part of "gamer culture" so thats probably where you need to weed them out. You cant gatekeep gaming exclusively on Ganker where noone listens to you anyway
There's no culture on Twitter. It's a platform for narcissistic self-aggrandisement. I've never seen a conversation take place on Twitter. The design of the site simply isn't built to accommodate it.
People who think they're a part of some "twitter culture" are literally mentally ill. You're supposed to get involved in forums and groups, if you actually care about something.
>Basic "gamer culture" etiquette, like mocking people who are shit at games until they get better, are good, and should be encouraged.
What caused the shift? It feels like developers and producers used to have the exact same attitude.
they do when it befits them and its easy.
>doom eternal adds gay cooldowns and moves, dogshit lore and story
>studio response: lmao filtered have you beaten nightmare difficulty
>starfield fricking sucks mechanically, sandwiches consist of 80 million triangles
>todds response: lmao filtered get a better gpu
>dark souls 2/elden ring are overpadded and boring
>response: (I dont speak japanese)
Because "Mock the people who suck at videogames" filters tons of people who don't deserve to be filtered. A just middle must be met because nobody deserves to be bullied out of a hobby for struggling with skill issues.
But none of this means that games must be turned into infantilizing experiences that holda your hand to make sure you never struggle, but this problem was not caused by people who cry about hard videogames, it was caused by shitty dev studios and publishing firms that want to get everyone addicted to their microtransaction schemes. If the game is too hard, normo/kiddie stops playing and how can they keep buying skins/maxxing their dad's credit card if the game is too hard to play?
>Because "Mock the people who suck at videogames" filters tons of people who don't deserve to be filtered.
Everyone "deserves" to get filtered. Whether you do or don't depends entirely on you
>literally the opposite of what Gatekeeping is
How can the dev gatekeep shit like trannies out of the userbase? They're kind of like a a cancer, they just spawn or slither in when you least expect it and then it's hard to actually get rid of them.
this is very scary to me
>make game
>it accidentally attracts girls gays and trannies
>you make a lot of money
>you cant really say FRICK OFF TRANNIES because it will attract mainstream news attention where you basically become a persona non grata and a target for gays queers and trannies.
I doubt anything I make will ever attract an audience or trannies but I think of Scott Cawthon attracting an army of gays and needing to tolerate them and act like they dont run contra to his core belief structure
Actually, I think it’s a good thing. That way you can find out why those people like your game so you can do the opposite in the next one.
>How can the dev gatekeep shit like trannies out of the userbase?
not pandering to them is a good start.
another step might be including some comic relief gay, predator/molester gay or a good religious character. These things work like a charm at keeping them far away.
>be Labeled the homophobe dev
>game sales:100 dollars total from 6 BASED ANONS for 4 years of work
WHY DON'T MORE PEOPLE DO THIS!?!?
Consumer bias. It's easy to scream at devs to keep making unprofitable niche content when you're audience of said content and your only concern is to be entertained VS the dev who pays his bills with sales money.
But the initial problem with why videogames inclusivity is bad is because of the fact that pop culture at large has been hijacked by politically invested corporations that turned pop culture into a vehicle for political propaganda and interests. I have no problem with a dev with a sociogical vision, but I do have a problem with people who say shit like "Videogames must be a tool to change society" because then, videogames become nothing more than interactive pamphlets for political parties.
Gatekeeping is a hobby's immune system. Only ones complaining about it are foreign bodies or faulty cells.
does anyone have that old Ganker comic about this? it depicted normies joining a fandom and then the original nerds leaving. I think they were drawn as stick figures
I've been looking for it since I knew I had it saved but kept forgetting what I named the file.
This looks like something that was drawn by someone who never had any friends.
“Gatekeeping” only works in much hobbies where the people you can interact with are limited and you probably have to interact with them face-to-face
I can’t see how you “gatekeep” a video game; if I bought a game I’ll play it. If you call me a homosexual it’s just words on the internet.
See rpgcodex for how to do gatekeeping
You cannot refute this.
But more importantly, who are any of these fricks and why are they considered important?
>28K likes
I hate masses.
Twitter's a leftist bubble, it doesn't represent much.
Those masses need massas.
>this isn't the same as gatekeeping
>describes gatekeeping
>Keep away hatred VS keep away ignorance
Two sides of the same coin.
how does mistranslating japanese media into english translate to defending against bigots??
Of course it's a yamatroony
>unironically yeah, thats how whiny trannies deserve to be treated
>if you dont keep trannies away from your space, that space will eventually become full of overly sensitive homosexuals and other b***hy shallow brained people, and by extension it will become unsafe for cool, free and tolerant folks
>keeping people with overly sensitive and intolerant views away from your fandom is precisely the poinr of gatekeeping in the sense of excluding others for sensible reasons such as being rejecting of the freedom and culture, being a poisonous b***h who wants to pitch people against eachother and people they dont like as villain, being constantly mad at people that mean no harm, etc
There isn't anything wrong with gatekeeping if it's only used to keep disruptive shitters out. The main problem is when you purposely exclude people you don't like just to satisfy your ego
>Normie joins chat
>Chat starts discussing character in a non-sexual manner
>”Uhhh isnt she (age)”
>Whole fricking thing is now awkward
I hate agegays so much
If it doesn't look like a toddler then who cares
It’s a drawing.
What is it a drawing of?
pure sex
all anyone has to do is go over to /b/ and see what e-girlcons are on a red board
e-girl should be once again allowed sitewide. There's no greater filter
the only reason pedophiles like you hate trannies is because they're you direct grooming competition
get fricked LGBTP
nice try, falseflag
This 100%, Gankerhu threads and c-team threads have next to no tourists in them, even the simplest drawing of e-girls is literal kryptonite for normalgays.
Reddit is filled with pdf files now too, more than ever, sometimes worse than here. Just check the azur lane sub for example.
This is very specifically a gacha game featuring cute girls, I doubt the people using or browsing that place also hang out in communities filled with regular normalgays who are angered by anime girls.
>e-girl = pedo
you're glowing, tourist-kun
It is the same thing to anyone that doesn't have your mental failing. Only a pedophile would try to get caught up in the nitty gritty there homosexual.
>I hate agegays so much
it was just a character, period, until their showed up.
100% it was an english-only speaker and very likely to be an american, they're the one who are the most obsessed about this on social media.
Gatekeeping doesnt work on a macro scale, you can gatekeep your discord or your friend group or your home, but you cant gatekeep MOVIES and VIDYA unless you tail these people to the game store and slap every game they try to buy out of their hands
Oh I don't think that gatekeeping is bad. I jusr think that screaming at normalgays is not what gatekeeping is and is nothing but childish self indulgence.
You gays are just happy that you have people to scream to and scream about, then you pretend like you're doing your part by parroting "Go back" to anyone who disagrees with your surface level political opinions. You're mad because you have zero control over who gets into Ganker.
>whole argument implies that you should not be here, and yet rebuke "go back" when you fully realize you don't belong here.
Hmm, that's a tough call, but I think I know what you can do.
So, I started getting into Pinball lately, and when I start checking out the online Pinball community, immediately I'm met by people saying tables I thought were cool are shit, or overrated.
And honestly, as much as I'm not going to let these people tell me what to enjoy, I am grateful for this, because it opens my eyes to other things I potentially could be playing that might be better.
What's so bad about this as a thing? You're so scared of being brick walled or told that you're wrong about something, that you'd rather just go nowhere?
I'm grateful that at some point in my life people basically bullied me out of only playing Nintendo games, not because I don't like Nintendo games, but because I was ignoring other stuff that was good, and robbing myself of enjoyment that way,
I'm grateful that at some point in my life people basically bullied me out of only reading science fiction and comic books, and made me pick up some other stuff.
How is this not a good thing?
the pinball "community" has pretty dogshit taste in boards, often times overvaluing the IP on the board over the quality of the board itself. KISS is a horseshit pinball machine but gay boomers smoked their first cigarette next to one so its EXCELLENT!!!!! the new weird al board looks pretty good tho mechanically
Because you don't need to "bully" people out of things to reach the same results. Having the attitude of a jaded, childish piece of shit is not necessary.
"Bullying" is part of how males interact. It's usually in good fun, and not something to be taken all that seriously.
Not everyone can have that mindset, so it can end up counterproductive as people dig their heels in deeper. That isn't to say they should be accommodated, but a lighter touch would work well depending on the person.
Sounds like something women would say to infiltrate male spaces.
Maybe, but all it takes is a cursory glance at all the raging autists on the internet to show people are more sensitive than you might think.
I have a right to be angry, and express my anger, if someone is making me angry. Why do you need to police everyone's behaviour?
it's literally healthy to get this stuff out.
I can't tell if you're shitposting or really missed my point in such an ironic way.
I'm always shitposting, but I'm also right.
I think of myself as the holy fool archetype.
t. feminine mind. t. gatekept. You are word for word describing the hallmarks of a tourist
>not everyone can fit in like that, change for me REEEEEE
Forget gatekeeping or "fitting in," instant antagonism just incites shitflinging in any circumstance. People on the internet take things personally and have meltdowns.
When I say "lighter touch," I literally mean something as simple as "lurk moar" as opposed to "kys you fricking idiot," when someone pops in asking a dumb question.
"kys you fricking idiot" pretty much is light-hearted ribbing in these spheres though.
If they actually hate you, they call you a normalgay or a Redditor.
You really think so? I came to the opposite conclusion the latter is almost always just a stand-in for "thing I don't like."
> I literally mean something as simple as "lurk moar" as opposed to "kys you fricking idiot,
Sure, fair.
It's simply not necessary. Good manners are very easy.
Saying "It's been this way since forever" to enable a bunch of childish fricks is a bad argument.
Make no mistake. There is a difference between banter and insufferable nagging from tryhards with shit taste who think the hobby belongs to them and their shit, unflexible taste is a list of rules to abide by.
>"Bullying" is part of how males interact
>it's just a prank bruh!
You and I both know there's a significant chunk of people who use this as their excuse to just be cruel for no reason other than to feel better about themselves. Ribbing and messing with someone is not the same as outright bullying and only people who have never been on the receiving end would believe otherwise.
Yes, but there's a distinction between being like "LMAO, your have terrible taste in games, stop playing Bethesda slop", and "I don't like you because you have a fricked up face, and I'm going to follow you home".
Also fair, though I'd argue a lot of posters here have completely forgotten how to make that distinction. All it takes is to label it as based.
>there's a significant chunk of people who use this as their excuse to just be cruel for no reason
and that's obviously not what this is about, moron
Ribbing =/ Bullying
Ribbing is making a joke at someone's expense to entertain the whole group, including the butt of the joke
Bullying is being petty and cruel to make oneself look/feel better
>Ribbing is making a joke at someone's expense to entertain the whole group
That's just bullying.
>DUDE WEEDS LMAO
Remember
>random quote without context
Wow that's so deep bro.
damn the grammar on that quote is fricked
That's what I'm saying my man
>Change the hobby = disrupt the entrenched hierarchy by applying one's unique experiences in a way that btfos incumbents
>Incumbents mad because their strict adherence to dogma didn't save them
Gatekeeping is dumb when it takes the form of rigidity that makes the endeavor more fragile. Decide what the core of the hobby is, defend that, be flexible with everything else. Otherwise the hobby dies and practitioners get persecuted for wasting their time on something without value.
Pretty much this.
This is why communities like Smash Melee keeps surviving. They are extremelly welcoming to anyone who wants to play the game and the only condition is to respect the community's goal of keeping the game alive by playing it at competitive level. The gatekeeper is the competition itself. If it's too hard for you, nobody is gonna put on kiddie gloves and padding to give you more of a chance. You lose and learn and listen to advice from more experienced players.
However, for the game and community to keep growing, you need flexibility, as you said and to be more inclusive of potential newcomers by not making up moronic fricking cultural rules that you Police harder than the fricking Gestapo. That only succeed in driving everyone away because nobody wants to be policed by a fatass tryhard who cares too much about his saturday night social club and thinks he owns it.
The literal difference between compgay clubs with simple rules such as "Play the game, respect tournament rules, no cheating, no foul play"
and
"NO FOX, NO SHEIK BECAUSE I HATE THIS CHARACTER, NO AERIAL JUGGLING, NO OFFSTAGE SHENANIGANS, NO EDGEGUARDING BECAUSE I'M NOT GOOD AGAINST THOSE, NO Black folk, NO BATHROOM BREAKS!"
yes, keep the core intact and btfo anyone who tries to tarnish it.
Now what is core exactly? That's somewhat open to discussion, some things more than others. I'd argue that fanservice has always been a part of FGC and always should be
The only people who are allowed to play video games are people who are exactly like me in every single way.
Stop not being me.
Why aren't you being me.
Be me.
BE ME.
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>redditspacing
>Implying gatekeeping is bad
>You'd have to be some sort of tourist moron to think this
Gatekeeping? Never work
Tell people to lurk moar again. Stop answering obvious questions and telling morons about in-jokes when they could just look shit up themselves.
>Tell people to lurk moar
>Don't spoonfeed
>don't coddle
just adhering to these three would instantly filter most of the shitters in any forum
I see gatekeeping mentioned on Ganker in cases where it doesn't actually work or could work. You can't gatekeep gaming companies. You can refuse to pay them/boycott them, protest them, but that's not the same.
you don't gatekeep companies, you gatekeep communities and fandoms, moron. Read the thread.
I'm sure someone has posted it in the thread already, but the statement, "The only people who complain about gatekeeping are those being kept out," rings truer every day. Any time the masses find out about an obscure hobby, it never ends well. They demand everything be tailored around them, then frick off to the next popular thing while leaving the old thing in shambles. There's always a good reason to tell new people to frick off and lurk more, as if they're really willing to join, they need to show it.
>Any time the masses find out about an obscure hobby, it never ends well. They demand everything be tailored around them, then frick off to the next popular thing while leaving the old thing in shambles.
I've been saying this exact same thing for over 10 years and is sad it rings truer every single day
the problem is that its the morons doing the gatekeeping
Normalgays hate gatekeeping because they feel entitled to everything
> [THING] exist
> I'm going to redefine [THING] stripping its negative qualities
> - Huh? Why do people even hate [THING], is this some sort of conspiracy?
Classic.
>gatekeeping bad
Ah yes, let everyone in and listen to what everyone says, the point of gatekeeping is so people who are interested will do the bare fricking amount to be a part of said hobby, letting people in who only see things from the outside not the inside is how things turn to shit.
>We need to Gatekeep this series
>It's a mainstream popular franchise from the beginning
>Obscure porn game
>Everybody is super friendly to newcomers and immediately answers any questons about lore, strats and secrets.
That's because the entire community is made up of the dev's alt accounts trying to get people to buy their game
I'd believe that if the game wasn't also on Steam's bestseller list.
steam is just a psyop for the porn game industry, keep up anon
Then it's not obscure
Porn games tend to automatically gatekeep themselves by their very nature.
>obscure game
When the hobby is actually starved for new participants, gatekeeping naturally tends to cease.
If people are getting gatekept, it's because new people aren't in demand and they'll have to get themselves into the hobby.
>When the hobby is actually starved for new participants
A good hobby doesn't need more participants beyond the bare minimum.
True, but it can't live for very long
Smash Melee has a constantly cycling competitivr playerbase. One of the foundating OGs hasn't been heard of in decades and the five Gods are all retired, yet, the community is still strong.
>mainstream popular franchise
>people still go in and demand answers to questions that would take a single Google search
It's amazing how low the bar can be and people still demand it's lowered even further.
You don't help your cause by making it obvious that you are frustrated by your powerlessness to make people behave the way you want them to behave.
If those are your expectations, then you will make yourself miserable and it'll be your fault.
You didn't actually shoot me, you only envisioned it in your head to cope about the fact that you'll keep seeing me reply to your juvenile bullshit. I ain't dying Black person, deal with it, pussy.
>wont post his home address under any circumstance to test that theory
Why don't you take all this babby rage and turn it on yourself instead?
Seeing you stab yourself incessantly in a fit of moron rage caused by anonymous nobodies having opinions you don't like would be infinitely more entertaining.
Stream it.
>wont post his home address under any circumstance to test that theory
I actually did it a few months back and the pussy told me it was a 5 hours drive and to expect him in the following 72 hours.
He never showed up.
Too bad for you. You should have been in that thread, moron. Now look at you, powerless to kill anyone and stuck with all that tourette moron rage inside.
Do you have tourette? I bet you have tourette or something like that. I knew a dude with tourettes and he was si.ilar to you. Disagreeing with him on petty issues would lead him into smashing the TV with a baseball bat, then cry about it for hours.
That's a very sad and pathetic sight to behold.
>I actually did it a few months back and the pussy told me it was a 5 hours drive and to expect him in the following 72 hours
okay, do it again (unless you are lying which is more likely)
Beat on your TV instead, tourette autismo.
Or better yet, turn that knife on yourself and stream it.
>wont post his home address under any circumstance to test that theory
No, I won't.
Choke on your anger. Be even angrier.
>i am being...le gatekept? but my opinions are based and redpilled! i should be heckin gatekeeping these trannies! i'll tell them im going to kill them and beg them to post their address multiple times on an anonymous forum so i can borrow mummy's car and chicken out once i leave the driveway
obviously not meant for
but im laughing too hard at this random sperg's meltdown to link properly
Fun fact: if Ganker was better gatekept most of you homosexuals wouldnt be here and would be still posting in reddit, 9gag or whatever shithole you crawled from
Except it's usually the developers who change the hobby, not the unwashed normies.
>gatekeeping vidya
It's the babby's first entrylevel hobby. Nothing to gatekeep.
What next? You try to gatekeep reading books?
this. Dragon Quest, the grandfather of JRPGs was just "What if a baby could play wizardry"
Gatekeeping doesn't work. Gatekeepers aren't interested in the hobby. They're interested in feeling the slightest bit of imaginary power in their meaningless lives. Most gatekeeping tactics don't work anymore in this day and age, you can't bully someone out of a hobby. Your only dream is setting up a paywall for newcomers.
Left leads to right. I do not want growth.
I'm not even sure what people mean with gatekeeping in this context. do you want anyone who is new to not join a specific hobby or just keep those out who try to forcefully change it to their needs?
mostly the latter, sometimes the former if they are perpetually obnoxious or don't fit in
Mild bullying to basically "see if they're cool", or to socially exclude them a little until the meet the standards of the group.
Like, if you run a serious film club, you don't let in every idiot who has seen Star Wars, while browsing their phone, because you want to maintain a certain quality of discussion. You want to know you're in good company with people respect and understand film. Not just time wasters who are looking to get into your thing either for attention, or social status, or to ruin it from the inside because they're just like that.
It's a basic thing that social groups just do, and it doesn't usually have to be explained because it's instinctual.
The correct way is to probe a potential member by gauging them before you invite them into your club.
You don't invite some dude into your private circle only to, then, start fact checking them. That's a moronrd approach and why gatekeeping doesn't work in the context of videogames communities because they are not private clubs at all.
Much like Ganker. Sure, lurk moar and blablabla, but the website is PUBLIC and is the top result of a simple Google search any 11 years old can easily perform. Of course the forum is going to be filled with fricking dumbshit morons.
Gatekeeping works in gaming. You can scream into the void all you like no one has to listen to you. You screaming louder is just proof people aren't listening to what you have to say.
You say that, but it's been incredibly effective over the years. How many of you people think there's something shameful about only playing Call of Duty or Madden, and it makes you "not a real gamer" somehow?
Why do you think that?
I don't hold these opinions at all.
If I have ever let Ganker influence my opinions through their shaming tactics, it was at the beginning of when I started browsing this shithole when I was in my early 20's and deeply insecure abkut my identity.
Now I'm 34 and taking dildos up my ass by my girlfriend. Why do you think I give a rat's ass about the literal essay you write about why I am not a true gamer? Play Madden all you want it's not my fricking business. I don't think there is a thing as a "fake gamer" or "fake fan" in any other context than the very specific type of person who gets into gaming communities for very specific personal gains and establishing positions of power. Otherwise if you're just the kind of fricker who plays Madden exclusively and says "lmao mario vros babby games are gay XD XD", you're just a moron in my eyes.
If gaming was reduced to only Madden, and if gaming culture consisted of people only talking about Madden, it would be shit.
I have a problem with this specific slippery slope mindset. It's so easy making up hypothetical armies of strawmen that you picture as the harbinger of the destruction of your hobby when such dudebros have always existes in gaming. Just gatekeep them out of discussions that pertain to genres and games that they hate and don't play and you're good and most time you don't even need to try because they won't bother showing up at all, they'll buy their sports slop endlessly and be content with it forever as things should be in the balance of gamers and gaming communities.
The real problematic people are opportunists who get into the community through trojan horse tricks by pretending to have the wellbeing of the community at heart only to establish a power dynamic that works in their favor.
Much like what happened with AGDQ. I am not someone who thinks transgenderism is a problem, but it's obvious that the speedrun trannies of AGDQ schemed with the organizer in order to position themselves into privilege. Now the speedrun trannies have aristocrat status in the community and can choose to direct attention towards trans issues at whim. Goid for you if you raise awareness of the issues you and your community goes through, byt I'm here to watch speedruns and hear speedrunners explain their strats and have a good time doing it. When the whole even is 60% trans awareness, 10% being forced to watch ugly trans women who look like old uncle type men in clown makeup makeout in front of the camera and be way too comfortable with their degenerate behavior and 20% of the organization being no fun allowed for the investors and trannies, then yeah, now I have a problem. Madden dudebros are nobodies.
modern gatekeeping is just people who got into something slightly later than the other person they are shitting on
>hated being a moderator in anything, just want to take it easy and have a good time in groups i'm in
>time after time again communities i'm a part of get ruined by new people that can't fit in or mentally ill morons that eventually subvert the entire admin team
>eventually decide i've had enough and get into a position of power with a community i want to stay pure
>have stamped out cancer after cancer ever since
Be the solution Anon. Become a mod, admin, whatever. Just don't be a janny.
I miss pre-Chibnall Doctor Who
I miss pre-RTD Doctor Who.
I miss pre-JNT Doctor Who
tru
Everything past the first series sucks. Regeneration was a mistake.
You mean in the 60's I honestly don't entirely disagree. The whole dynamic of the Doctor being a kind of mysterious grandfather, and the whole Tardis crew having a family like dynamic is very kino.
What if your goal is to enjoy something but not participate? Would you gatekeep someone who was passively interested?
Honestly? Yes. It pisses me off when people I don't like enjoy something I like. It makes me want to stop liking that thing altogether.
You don’t debate the pros/cons of gatekeeping with the barbarian who wants to come inside. The people you’re trying to keep out have no say in whether keeping them out is a good or bad thing.
none of you homosexuals can ever explain How you even gatekeep considering you have no control over anyone playing the game.
But Ganker told me you can gatekeep people from playing game on steam frontpage.
Anything is possible if you make enough threads on Ganker about it.
you don't literally gatekeep games. You gatekeep communities around the games. In the past this just meant there were a bunch of different communities around with their own quirks and shit. It's different now because devs actually pay attention and cater to these communities so whoever controls them, or the biggest one, has real influence over the game in question which is often a bad thing
Literally every community gatekeeps. You can't really form a community without it. What or how they gatekeep is a whole different discussion. Either way these discussions always essentially boil down to who is gatekeeping and what/how they are gatekeeping
>Remember when wanting to join a community of a hobby I just found out about
>Have to become savvy with what the community likes, dislikes, and what may be a gray area
>Seamlessly join the hobby's community because I'm not a shitflinging baby
>Queue leftists forcing everyone to open up their communities
>Hobby's community becomes more shit
>Instead of appreciating things as they are
>Shitbirds piss and shit and throw a fit until the hobby is changed and tailored to them specifically
>Destroys the hobby
>OGs of the hobby complain about how the hobby is now changed because of this small minority
>Minority tells people to GTFO and if they don't like it create their own space
>OGs do as told being the bigger men
>Minorities who ruined the hobby get angry when everyone leaves because they ruined the hobby
>Minorities go to the OGs new community and DEMAND to be let in
Rinse and repeat.
I'm a society of 1. There are 10 others that think like me.
The only games I can think of that normalgays don't play are Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, Space Station 13, Dwarf Fortress and Elona+, and thats simply because learning the controls and figuring out the mechanics is too much a commitment for smoothbrained casuals.
>SS13
there are more trannies and furries playing ss13 than normal people
Noone can gatekeep a hobby except for its creator. You guys arent gatekeeping shit, youre just crybabies
Tons of people get gatekept from hobbies. My friend dropped MTG after realizing no one would play with him.
based had someone I know drop WH40k because the dudes I introduced him to wouldn't bend to his gayness. Now he refers to WH40k as a "white supremacist" game dont even know why I talk to this homosexual still.
Same thing happened with my friend. He spiraled down into a dark descent over people not liking his personality.
All it took was people saying they don't want to play with him to his face a few times and he quit on his own.
>gatekeeping
What a moronic term to use with gaming. How the frick you going to “gatekeep” me. You can’t do shit. You can’t stop me from buying the game, play it, posting about it, making videos or watching videos about it. There is literally nothing you can. So how the frick are going to “gatekeep” me?
I didn't want it to come to this but
>unzips dick
>hurrdurr we need to gatekeep
>homosexual redditors like mandalore and Sseth are celebrated for using a couple of our buzzwords
This place is a joke
Yakuza gatekeeping is the gayest.
yes you must play all of the games
it's nonnegotiable
See, this is the kind of homosexualry I'm talking about. Like clockwork.
>give the the Direct quote
This is why I hate ironic nerds.
>oh I'm a loser but it's ironic hahah!
No, go full neckbeard, say the cringe stuff like you mean it. Only then will the normalgays understand they don't belong
So basically genuine autism is the great filter
always has been
>ironic nerds.
is this the same as failed normies?
Ironic nerds are women into nerd hobbies to garner easy attention and weaker beta men adopting a hobby to fit into their friend group even if they don't have a real interest.
The guy off alone collecting coins or stamps is unironically the well adjusted of them. He's doing his own thing and not worrying about perceptions.
Tell me how in this day and age one can gatekeep a media that is by all accounts available everywhere? Do note that how this starts is that someone of the group posts things about the media in a place that people can easily find it. So unless the thing in question you want to gatekeep has little appeal for whatever reason a person can come up with, what is preventing another group that is more "open" that follows a similar media from just overtaking the old one in terms of being the "voice of the community"?
Because gatekeeping is not making people stay out of a hobby, it's making new guys understand and learn what the hobby is about and kicking out weirdos what want to fundamentally change the hobby.
The issue with that is that its easy to make multiple communities over what said hobby is and in turn, "different interpretations", especially if the people who are in charge of said hobby and its setups are not super-active to set things straight.
It wouldn't really take much if a popular thing of the moment ends up becoming big due to circumstances and the alternative "secondary" open groups which never understood or dislike the fundamentals of a thing cause of "reasons" are the ones who accept more people into the thing, especially the weirdos who want to change it even more. At that point I can see how it would spiral out of control out of being more vocal than the original group especially if the media is just openly there to consume and the devs or what have you don't know which is the wheat and chaff of opinions, especially if one side seems to be putting more money/attention out for it in the places they inhabit more.
Ive seen many games have 2+ communities in which the "official" community gets shadowed and effectively deleted by the trans/gay/terminally online community. Sorry that I play other games and cant post with the same frequency that a cracked out troony does fellas, but its not worth it. Look at the fricking godot discord. Trans people post every microsecond about fricking nothing.
Yep, can't entirely blame the original group cause of how a secondary set can just come in and completely overtake the voices of the original. Even happens with websites too, only hope is that the tide passes over with hopefully minimized damages or the spotlight isn't shine on them for it to happen from what I've experienced.
I hate to blog post but frickin
>developing little game for funsies
>want cappy mechanics
>ask for help in Godot discord
>3-4 trannies bite
>2-3 "cant help you bud sorry"
>last one basically ridicules my idea saying im just stealing from nintendo and why not instead use [his/shis mechanic instead]
>"no thanks I really want a cappy/space station silicon valley mechanic instead"
>they take offense that I dont want to make THEIR game now and say "if you dont actually want help then stop wasting everyones time"
I WILL make my game and I WILL exterminate you
If gatekeeping worked, none of (you) morons would have left reddit
Hold the line or get Marvel’d by “inclusivity”.
https://archive.org/download/MisterMetokurArchive/%5B2016-01-31%5D%20Marvel%20Comics%20%26%20Replacement%20Theory.mp4
>show has screenwriting worse than some third world kid who made up a story
>movie bombs because it sucks
>DiS iS dA eViL wHiTe MaN's FaUlT!!!!
Gatekeeping is impossible now, especially if you lack any actual influence.
If you're not a creator or any level of influence, you can't do shit. You're just screaming in the aether because there's no means of physically blocking anyone, keeping them out of the community at large, or anything. It's too massive and can literally be purchased and played anywhere.
So what can you actually do? Really?
This is how you gatekeep
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/honest-opinion-on-half-life-2.148156
Some level of gatekeeping is okay as long as it isn't entirely aimed at keeping everyone new out. New people joining in a hobby isn't a bad thing and I don't get veterans that entirely deride newbies because they aren't as knowledgeable, veterans also had to start somewhere too.
The problem I find is when you have newbies who aren't interested in learning how or why things work and try to shift the community to their sensibilities.
>Some level of gatekeeping is okay as long as it isn't entirely aimed at keeping everyone new out.
it was never about that anon.
Not to be a snob but Taylor swift is proof women dont like music and just glomb onto POPULAR THING
Women are incurable narcissists that live to ruin hobbies by making it about themselves. Weak men exist to simp for these tourists.
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>Im going to buy this game just to trigger manchildren
Ganker would never do the exact same thing, we're above that!
I bought it specifically to piss of Twitter trannies and ended up loving it as a game.
>I ACTUALLY LOVED THE GOYSLOP GAME WITH A troony IN IT DEVELOPED BY TRANNIES!!!!
Youre winning the culture war! Buy pepsi and stock in raytheon technologies, it OWNS THE LIBS
There are no trannies in the game you pink assed baboon.
>muh bartender
That’s just a chick with a horrible voice.
They’re witches and wizards, if they want to change gender they can just cast a spell
>They’re witches and wizards, if they want to change gender they can just cast a spell
It's the same thing with DnD. There was even a standard (not sure if it's the right word, this isn't mass produced, but a known thing you can have made if rich enough) enchanted belt that changes you to the opposite gender when worn. Probably a number of spells to just do the same thing. Yet in a new in an expansion added to BG1 there is a sidequest to help someone become a troony and help them run away from their evil bigoted family. They can and regularly do ignore or retcon decades of old lore to write this shit.
Same. Spiting the Cancel Pigs is always the right thing to do.
game is a surprisingly enjoyable ubisoft clone
stay mad
What's so funny is that the game is pozzed and even has trannies in it. It's blackwashed historical England. The outcry was that JK Rowling was going to get some money from it. JK Rowling is a misandrist feminist that just disagrees on transgenderism but agrees with every single other far-left belief. That's it.
if hasan piker is buying your game, it is never based. Ganker are a bunch of morons who fought an invisible war over a game that neither helped nor hurt JK Rowling and I promise pottertrans gays all secretly bought the game
you don't need to shill your videos /here/, Spoon.
>picrel
I saw the writing on the wall the first time the first e-girl posted a picture biting a controller
The only people who don't like gatekeeping are the ones the gate keeps out.
SJW GAMES/GAMES MADE BY SJW's THAT BOMBED
>BattleFieldV
>Mirrors Edge Catalyst
>Wolfenstein 2
>Wolfenstein young lesbians
>Anthem
>Mafia 3
>Watch Dogs 2
>Mass Effect Andromeda
>Lawbreakers
>Sunset@ "NOT THE FRICKING OVERDRIVE ONE"
>Revolution 60
>Depression quest
>Life is strange 2
>Battleborn
>Pillars of Eternity 2
>Dishonored 2
>Dishonored 2: Death of the Outsider
>Tacoma
>Virginia
>Where The Water Tastes Like Wine
>River City Girls
>Tyranny
>Drawn to Death
>Agents of Mayhem
>Bless Online
>Hyper Universe
>Telltale Games- the whole company
>Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear
>Dead Rising 4
>Bleeding Edge
>2064: Read Only Memories
>INVISIBLE
>Orphan
>DmC: DMC
>Thi4f
>MARVEL AVENGERS
>Sam & Max Remastered
>Medal of honor VR
>=GOOGLE STADIA=
>VTMB2 = BEFORE IT EVEN LAUNCHED
>Crash 4
>RETURNAL
>Destruction all stars
>Magic: Legends
>CRUCIBLE
>DoubleFine = the whole company
>deathflop
>joyless adventures of empathy woman
>RESIDENT EVIL 4 VR
>BATTLEFIELD 2042
>battletoads 2020
>KOTOR REMAKE = BEFORE IT EVEN LAUNCHED
>AI the troony files
>AI the troony files 41% initiative
>Grid Legends
>Back 4 blood
>phantasy star online 2
>watch doges region
>MANKIND DIVIDED
>VODEO GAMES = WHOLE COMPANY
>saints row HUZZAH
>potionomics
>GOTHAN CITY QUEERS
>Marvel Rising Sun
>FORESKIN
>We Are OFK
>paraplegic dream tour
>Waypoint =THE WHOLE COMPANY
>red FAIL
>omen-of-sorrow
>PREY
>TLOU2
>WHORIZON FORBIDEN WEST
>tales of borderlands
>Volition - the whole company
>SEGA HYENAS
>prototype 2
>THE DAY BEFORE
>TLOU ONLINE
>ratchet and clank a rift in my wallet
>Total war we wuz kangs
SJW GAMES THAT SOLD WELL
>Borderlands 3
>Pathfinder
>CoD fanfic
>beargate 3
Soon gta6
Forgot gbvh
the what?
If you don't gatekeep shit becomes like pic related sóislop.
homie FGC is already gatekept, this shit is happening because devs got tired of making games for the same 12 homosexuals to hop between. They're chasing new blood now.
They should've made a new fighting game series instead of following Dead On Arrival's footsteps, making game casual and "SAFE" for work audience, it literally is a Dead On Arrival with Tekken characters.
They would've killed Tekken either way or maybe made Tekken Vs Street Fighter, people have been wanting a follow up for it anyway set in more SF 2D style, so why they didn't do that makes no sense if they wanted to attract new players.
Tekken earns more money, that's it.
Same reason why movie remakes get pozzed, it's safer to just smear shit over the old thing and pretend it's new and improved
Tekken 7 will be the last tekken I'm touching, let the company die off.
The truth is, at this point, if they can't pack in a meaty single player mode, fighting games as a concept are just kind of outdated.
Are most people going to buy one, when they can buy Elden Ring, and have a whole adventure, and PVP stuff? Probably not. The world has just kind of moved on from fighting games.
The first developer to put all the pieces together and make a game that's basically Yakuza, but it's also a competitive fighting game, I think is going to reinvigorate the genre.
Probably needs to be a straight up 3D game as well. Anarchy Reigns kind of had the idea, but fricked itself over for a variety of reasons (like the single player campaigns being pretty mediocre in the first place).
T8 is such a fricking joke
>touch up existing characters to have HYPER REALISTIC SKIN
>turn it into shittier 2d tekken that rips street fighter off
>BUT LE GIRLS ARE PRETTY IT GOOD STREET FIGHTER SUCKS
T7 was good for all about 1 year, how anyone didnt see this shit coming is beyond me
tekken 7 was peak fighter in the beginning, honestly i never had as much fun as i did playing steve fox in ranked
not since soul calibur 4
The irony of these threads is that the people asking for gatekeeping are often the ones who will be gatekept, like those who get banned from discord for saying Black person.
no the real irony is this thread being made on the board used a toilet by the rest of the site, and off-site Black folk
Everytime normalgays see that word they immediately feel targeted because they know they don't belong here, the best they can do is pretend that everyone else besides them are those who should be gatekept then they try to make up new rules or resort to revisionism.
Well it's never "gatekeeping" when they do it. They use veiled language like "keeping the community safe".
I hate doublespeak like you would've believe
>no u
upvote!
>doesn't even what irony means
>tries to lecture others
Dunnin-Kruger in full swing, kek.
>t. gatekept loser
Yes we get it. You are an insecure failure whos trying to fill his depressing, lonely, pussyless void of an existence by "shunning" newcomers from his videogame communities. Let me kneel before your 500lbs royal presence as you spend another day being an unemployed loser.
People like you need to be gatekept, because you're insufferable.
unironically, violent misogyny is also a great filter. Because it triggers gays and holes who must, at all times, disclose that they are holes. I don't do it because I hate women, I do it because is necessary. Is like racism, the true edginess is what keeps snowflakes away, that's the main purpose of being edgy on internet forums
What does sex have to do with this? Why do you weirdos obsess over it so much?
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Apt image, since what happened to Skullgirls is exactly because it wasn't gatekept enough.
To be fair it happened on a higher level outside of what the community could've done,the most important members of the original team got progressively thrown out.
The biggest censorship change was spurred on by their circlejerk discord and twitter messages. If the community had rejected these people before they could achieve critical mass, the nudevs would have no incentive to change anything. The fact is the community degeneration was to blame, Skullgirls should have stayed a sexy/slightly raunchy fighter instead of some kind of social justice beacon for permanently online leftists.
Gatekeeping is an illusion. If the developers want to make a game more palatable to mainstream audiences a bunch of screeching nerds will have little effect on it.
The morons at Senran Kagura think they are gatekeeping when the truth is that no one is interested in their games.
The only way to guarantee gatekeeping is to make your own games and never spread your cheeks for money.
I would do this if I weren't a depressed neet.
that image is not depicting what gate keeping means
How do you even Gatekeep pop culture? You can't keep anyone out, it's literally designed to be consumed by as many people as possible.
Hostility towards newbies in the hopes of getting them to voluntarily leave.
>in the hopes of getting them to voluntarily leave.
So nothing
Not even gorespam works on normalgays anymore, everyone is desensitived compared to a decade ago when the internet was still somewhat of a novelty to them. it's unsettling how small the gap is especially post-lockdown
>It's not the game I'm gatekeeping you from, It's you who I'm gatekeeping my game and it's community from so it doesn't ruin you.
I agree, girls should gatekeep thier pussy from losers like you
>ITT: anti-social loners wonder why they're leaving their hobbies because they can't get along with other people
Seems to me like you are all the ones being gatekept
Anons aren't leaving their hobbies though. Most of the thread is pointers on how to keep the gates strong.
Every other post says otherwise, but go off
>Seems to me like you are all the ones being gatekept
>It's not happening and you deserve it.
He didn't say that thoughever
He said you're being gatekept, not the other way around
>the original fans get overwhelmed, and then get gatekept out of their own spaces
Well yeah. We've spoken about that already.
The only way to gatekeep is being a troony janny, and not even the homosexuals here that pathetic to sweep the floors for free, so only literal trannies and paid shills do this which is why rightists keep getting banned by leftoids everywhere
We gatekeep at my LGS by not talking to the people we don't like. They eventually stop showing up.
Must be nice, too bad I don't go outside
this is is old by now anon
people shitpost for free daily for years, i find the guy that keeps posting "WHAT GAME LETS ME DO THIS" with shit that has noting to do with games much worse than janies at this point
Least schizophreic post in this thread.
? but it's true? you used to be able to get away with talking shit even here and now that social media took over and got hijacked by leftists it's been their rules forced on everyone, you even get soft-banned (aka canceled) irl now if they hate you enough
You talk like a moronic facebook boomer, even if you made a somewhat valid point.
Ganker used to be more hostile and self-sufficient with their own moderation, but after mods clamped down on those (notably GETposting), it's been a lot easier for outsiders to integrate along with their garbage ideas.
If you got banned from one forum back in the day, it wasn't that big a deal. You just found another one (hopefully not as b***hmade) and moved on.
Now you get kicked off entire platforms for refusing to kiss a troony's toes or saying the Black person word, then doxxed if you're really unlucky. Lefties are the gatekeepers of the internet now.
>hijacked by leftists
>"leftists"
its funny because its true
I regret not saving that one meme drawing about Gankertan ending up to hate a game Reddit started to "like". It was great and I expected it to be reposted
You won't get gatekept as long as you can blend in, that's why you read up on shit before you just stroll through the door.
Same reason nobody ever calls me a newbie, because I blend in.
Simple, as.
the most effective way to gatekeep is just to create a strong, unyielding community of people with a strong, loud and proud culture. Have friendly yet strong and shameless banter with 0 concerns about the possibility of offending somebody.
The bad culture-ruining homosexuals that end up creating normalhomosexualry are typically overly sensitive b***hes too worried about morals and their dumb self righteousness. Create an environment that repulses them and give them absolutely no place to try and change things for the worse
I don't know I've had spergs go off on hour long rants because I made an offhand joke, and I'm not talking twitter trannies I mean on here, even if i say I was joking it just seems to anger them more
>rants = mad
normalgay spotted
For the last time imitate rpgcodex
if Moshe tells you not to gatekeep, you know he's a foreign body.
"Gatekeeping" is conveying and maintaining traditional norms, which's the essence of culture. If a snozz wants to change our culture kill him or atleast let him present some non-pillpul argument for why his alterations are improvements. it will only be lies so yeet him into the sun