I got to see Gencon at Mecca with my uncle once as middle school guy before they moved. The building after that didn't have much sovl.
I guess it's hard to compete with a giant convention center connected to multiple hotels but it feels shitty to move it away from Wisconsin.
What special privileges do they get enforced by the government? Y'all's just mad at corpos pinkwashing shit for free publicity.
Anyways Trans people have been in DnD and TTRPGs in general since forever. Gosh, where could the attraction be in playing a different character with the opposite gender for a closeted Trans person lol. They've always been there, and honestly they're usually much less of a homosexual about it than people who go on b***hing about it.
If anything we need to stop the lazy "trans" """people""" who were just so fricking ugly they gave up and went a direction that keeps them from being criticized for their sloppy jelly bodies and unkempt appearances.
Meanwhile growing up we had trans women dressing up as their characters and at least putting some goddamn effort into it.
Very true. I saw a lot of weird sensitive gay/bi guys in gaming in the 00's who eventually went trans. And then the autogynephilia epidemic really took off in the IT/gaming/anime communities post-2010 as streaming porn got big and families and subcultures eroded.
Gencon is in Indiana. You might have been subconsciously reminded of Vampire: Masquerade because the club looks just like Jeanette's club with promenade, gothic architecture, dancefloor, and elevator in the same locations and that game took place in Santa Monica, California.
>women are all fat. >women dressed like a wierd mix of medieval and bawd. >wierd brown man has his shirt off. >women shaking their breasts but everyone is 2 ft away from each other
Are they not rules or shit
There's no such thing as trans rights. Only special privileges to be enforced through government's monopoly on violence.
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What special privileges do they get enforced by the government? Y'all's just mad at corpos pinkwashing shit for free publicity.
Anyways Trans people have been in DnD and TTRPGs in general since forever. Gosh, where could the attraction be in playing a different character with the opposite gender for a closeted Trans person lol. They've always been there, and honestly they're usually much less of a homosexual about it than people who go on b***hing about it.
If anything we need to stop the lazy "trans" """people""" who were just so fricking ugly they gave up and went a direction that keeps them from being criticized for their sloppy jelly bodies and unkempt appearances.
Meanwhile growing up we had trans women dressing up as their characters and at least putting some goddamn effort into it.
9 months ago
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There's more protections for trannies than not. In some countries, hatespeech laws can get someone in deep shit for calling a fat homosexualy moron the wrong pronouns.
No one is denying that trannies exist or saying that they haven't existed before. Simply that they don't deserve special protections or the ability to compel speech and behavior. The rest of the world shouldn't have to play along with a delusion moron's mentally ill LARP.
9 months ago
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>What special privileges do they get enforced by the government?
Not being strung up on a lamppost like they deserve, for one. If you didn't get the special privilege of government protection, you can bet every last one of those people would be dead and good riddance.
9 months ago
Anonymous
In Cuckanada you'll go to jail if your wife wants your son on hormones and you either refuse to allow it or dare refer to him as your son. You'll also be expelled from school or fired for speaking your mind about it. I'm not sure where you live, but this is life here.
9 months ago
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>your wife wants your son on hormones
I dont know man you don't even sound like you have kids, but that's a weird fricked up scenario you've just invented. Usually the kid wants to transition, not one of the parents, and if you had a kid who was trans you would make their lives worse instead of better which is kind of against the idea of parenting.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see the big problem anyway. What's wrong with weak genes removing themselves?
9 months ago
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Kids aren't old enough to make these kinds of life altering decisions you sick frick. This is like saying that your kid wants to be schizophrenic. No. It's a mental illness.
I've come across more than a few people online who were eager to go, but were constantly b***hing and moaning that GenCon's anti-covid policies weren't strict enough.
Sweaty hambeasts breathing through moldy, spit-soaked rags all day, having anxiety attacks because they're going to have to stand less than 6 feet apart with strangers, thinking they're the only ones who care about everyone's health the whole weekend.
Anon how much of your day was spent people watching? Lol it makes me smile since I'd judge the same. I'm too fat at the moment I'd not even want to be seen in public like this. God, to imagine I could be compared to these onions freaks is enough for me to not go to a convention atleast not until I'm peak fitness and can mog.
As long as we define fat people as anyone with a BMI over 20, yes, I'm in.
9 months ago
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I don't know if that's a good metric since a lot of bodybuilders have a BMI over 30 despite having almost no fat on their body.
I thing we should just stick to the tried and true "25 consecutive pushups" rule.
9 months ago
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>says whiney pussy who can do exactly 25 push-ups then fricking dies
9 months ago
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(You)
9 months ago
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Imagine having to jerk off with an onahole on a stick like some kind of depraved croquet mallet.
9 months ago
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Here's what you don't understand. When people say that BMI isn't a good metric they assume that it's because healthy people are being listed as being overweight. It's actually the opposite problem.
9 months ago
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>It's actually the opposite problem.
Only if you're a dwarf. BMI is perfectly fine for determining whether you're overweight for the majority of people.
9 months ago
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I don't know if that's a good metric since a lot of bodybuilders have a BMI over 30 despite having almost no fat on their body.
I thing we should just stick to the tried and true "25 consecutive pushups" rule.
How about weight divisions like in sports?
9 months ago
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No, 22% is fine and is a desired average in my opinion, for men.
9 months ago
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BMI is not a percentile measure
9 months ago
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OK then. 22 bmi is ideal for men. A bit of fat to survive hard times, plenty of room for muscles, can maintain real strength and you don't need to live like an anorexic emo girl from 2006 starving themselves to stay slim.
I'm trying.
Why do you think I'm so god damn fat? Death by literal inches. I'm trying to make myself implode like a Chinese skyscraper through sheer bulk, but I'm fricking stalled out at 380 no matter how much I eat.
It's bullshit, I smoked three packs a day, eat garbage food constantly, drink a gallon of mad dog 20/20 a week, and my liver, lungs, blood sugar, cholesterol, and shit are all fine when I'm pushing 50.
WHY WON'T I FRICKING DIE?
Time to move on to cocaine or some other hard drug, I guess.
thanks a lot OP, I actually needed reasons why NOT to go to GenCon and I think this convinced me. No way do I wanna deal with lines and crowds like this
I guess I'll be going to Adepticon, GaryCon, or some UK Wargaming con instead for my first out of state convention then.
also, whats the best UK convention? Partizan? Salute? Preferably not one of the 40k-centric cons.
Also I've heard UK cons are different. In the US cons are an entire weekend affair and its usually connected to a hotel so you're staying and living alongside other gamers for an entire weekend, while in the UK, cons are just 1 day events. Is that true?
There's certainly a lot of one-day cons in the UK, usually smaller ones or ones held by unis, but there's a lot of multiday affairs. These tend to be the bigger ones, like UK Games Expo, Dragonmeet, MCM, Airecon...
I mean, there's a lifestyle brand element now(not all the people who listen to Critical Role or have a plush D20 on their shelf actually play) but it's harder and harder to actually wrangle people to show up for games since everyone's so burnt-out and there are more easily available sources of dopamine.
>I can't decide if TTRPGs are thriving or dying.
Neither. The Golden Age is over, but they are not dying so much as a ghost. The remnant of a glorious time before pocket computers ended all book reading and utterly destroyed peoples imaginations, attention span, enjoyment, and social capabilities.
The novel and short story died. People just don't read fantasy novels or short stories any more, and RPGs are really downstream of that stuff. So you end up with this creatively incestuous and self-referential monolith that D&D has become. Frankly WOTC to this very day is coasting off the creative output of the 1980s and 1990s genre fiction scene, which TSR played no small part in.
I don't know how people can possibly say its dying or that games are somehow harder to gather, its bigger and more commercialized than its ever been and I suspect its only going to continue growing. I am old enough to remember when D&D was actually extremely niche and it was just me and my friends who played this game in high school, and a teacher had to introduce it to us. Now I go to the LGS and the open D&D nights are packed with dozens of people from high school aged to boomers and thats not even counting the boom of online game groups that allow people across the country to play together whenever they want whereever they are
>Now I go to the LGS and the open D&D nights are packed with dozens of people from high school aged to boomers
See, that's what I was suggesting. That it's easy to dip your toes in but that doesn't always translate to deeper participation. Like if I go to some open gaming event at the FLGS, am I going to be playing with the same people the next week? Get the same character to level 12+?
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>That it's easy to dip your toes in but that doesn't always translate to deeper participation.
It does
Also that pic is like five years old if it still makes you angry then you need to get your brain checked.
9 months ago
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It absolutely still makes me angry because the person that said this wasn't killed. Yes, my imaginary worlds, tabletop games, and entertainment is more valuable to me than the life of some rando. I acknowledge this fact, own it, but make no apologies. I am the most important person in my own world and thus wish to see it just how I want it.
9 months ago
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>am I going to be playing with the same people the next week? Get the same character to level 12+?
yes dude, i have no clue why you would think you couldn't. what? its called making friends, or telling the player "I had a lot of fun, when can we do that again, heres my number!". Peoples ability to do that shit didn't just disappear.
Yes, an inclusive spot where people can gather and feel welcomed is the same thing as an apartheid state's exclusionary measures.
9 months ago
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Well then let's get the straight white guy lounge at the next Gencon
9 months ago
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Literally every lounge is the straight white guy lounge. It's the fricking default you weirdo.
9 months ago
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>inclusive
Its literally exclusive by its very nature you moron.
I’ll always find it hilarious that the type of folks that fought against “seperate but equal” 60 years ago are now championing the same idea as progressive so long as you label it a “safe space” and “inclusive”.
It’s not dying; it’s bigger than ever. That said, the twin-pronged lance of increased normalhomosexualry and commercial viability means all the creativity and passion in the hobby, and the hobby itself really, are being replaced with risk-adverse “content” generation that prioritizes trend chasing over everything else.
It’s not going anywhere, it’s just losing its identity, priorities and values in order to better serve as a commercial enterprise. And for folks like us, that may very well feel like it’s dying out.
A nerve that runs through your jaw. I'm not sure what it has to do with anything. Most likely the creator doesn't know what a mental foramen is either.
Unless you wanted to get into the hall to wait in line/buy shit immediately at 10am, it was never this crowded. A lot of the densepack crowd was waiting to buy the didneyworl game.
There was plenty of other stuff to do and the miniature painting classes I took were really useful.
Definitely recommend going if you can afford a hotel, they're expensive as frick for the weekend, even near the airport. Indy has some good bars and restaurants too, especially if you're willing to outwalk the big chungi in distance from the convention center.
Remember when conventions used to be about sneaking around the hotel late at night, attending panels, and making friends with people who shared your niche hobby?
Now it's like a big cattle pen designed to drain you of as much money as possible.
>women are all fat. >women dressed like a wierd mix of medieval and bawd. >wierd brown man has his shirt off. >women shaking their breasts but everyone is 2 ft away from each other
Are they not rules or shit
>women are all fat.
Seed oils, added sugars, and smartphone social contagion. Remember all the really interesting types of geek girl(like the elf-y looking ones, the sexy librarian types, the theatre hoes, etc) and now it's just fatties and gendergoblin/nonbinary types.
>Now it's like a big cattle pen designed to drain you of as much money as possible.
Smaller cons can still be chill, but the big cons are corporate events for corralling as many paypigs as possible. Practically psychologically engineered to mentally abuse people and make them more pliable to forming unhealthy attachments to brands and studios.
He is right, only insofar as the statement that the convention is JUST fatties and troony-adjacent people is literally untrue. There's plenty of people who don't meet those definitions. There's a lot MORE fatties and troony-adjacent types than there should be, sure, and more than I want to see in public (that number being 0), but his statement is correct and yours is not. Gencon looks bad enough on its own. It doesn't need your help making it look like the money grab for social rejects that it's always been.
>Now it's like a big cattle pen designed to drain you of as much money as possible.
Smaller cons can still be chill, but the big cons are corporate events for corralling as many paypigs as possible. Practically psychologically engineered to mentally abuse people and make them more pliable to forming unhealthy attachments to brands and studios.
>now it's just fatties and gendergoblin/nonbinary types.
Literally untrue and you damn well know it.
the containment board beckons you to come to their conventions, anon: they are small, but large enough to pack a decent rave in, they have a community, and they have a big fantasy, roleplaying and table top and card game scene.
Look up crowd crush deaths. That shit is absolutely violating safety regs, depending on which state it's in.
These cons are about cash, always have been but with the massive mainstreaming of the hobbies the cons have grown before regulations (and the culture of enforcing them) have caught up. Eventually there'll be deaths and lawsuits and then due to liability convention centres will start actually enforcing proper safety standards.
The crowd at the bottom doesn't violate anything, it would be an issue if you had this density of people in place for seating (eg. cinema), but as a "walking" crowd there's no limit. There might be violation of weight-per-square-feet limit at the balconies, but as long as they don't start jumping or marching in unison it's probably safe too.
what is this? please don't tell me the entire convention is like this? this is destroying any desire I had to go to this thing. I've seen pictures of huge crowds of packed sardines and of people dancing, where are the RPG games? where are the wargames? where are the board games? what do the panels look like? It can't possibly be this miserably crowded all the time.
This is the entrance to the main floor on day one. There's an entire convention center attached to multiple hotels and a mall and they all have events. It's never like this outside of the first half hour.
I went there the first three years after it moved to Indy. I came to the decision the dealer area was the only thing I was interested in on what it offered. From what I've heard from others the place is now overrun with MCU/CR normies coopting the /tg/ culture.
More or less yeah since they have demos for days, unless you care about wargaming/boardgame tournments, or think ahead of time to sign up to try out some one-shots. I liked the times I went, although I would hate going there by myself.
With that many people is there actually the opportunity to do anything if you didn't buy tickets for one of the events or is it all just shuffling through the masses?
My understanding is you have 24 hours to sign up for anything when it first becomes available before it's all sold out. The con is going to get to the point were your going to be buying tickets 2-3 years in advance due to demand.
There are constant events everywhere all weekend. Even if the main thing you wanted for a specific hour is full, there's always something to do somewhere.
Cons in general have gotten way too popular
Loved going to anime cons but the explosion in popularity in the past few years have made them intolerable.
>Loved going to anime cons >but the explosion in popularity in the past few years have made them intolerable.
What were anime cons like before they exploded in popularity, anon?
autistic weirdos genuinely showing their love for shit, honest amateur costumes instead of pro cosplay garbage, random guys selling their small run mecha kits they made in their garages.
The most unfortunate thing about cons of various nerdy subcultures getting more popular is that so many cons are becoming the same and losing their specific identities, when the common "MCU/Disney Star Wars/Netflix anime" normalgay nerd crowd is so massive and it makes most financial sense to pander to their generic and boring tastes.
Gencon 10+ years ago was a great time. I would absolutely not go any year after 2014, but it's gotten 1000x worse thanks to 2016 and 2019.
Last time I went we sprinted between scheduled sessions and classes to make it through all the games we wanted to play and stuff like a Blacksmithing course.
I mean, it depends on what parts of Gencon you expose yourself to. I got there on Wednesday and went to my hotel room. Got up Thursday, went straight to the minis hall and played minis games (mostly Battletech, but a couple of others) until midnight, then went back to my hotel room and slept, except for the night I went out drinking with friends. I went to the dealers hall 2 hours before the con closed, bought the things I wanted and a couple of impulse buys (Snapfighter Tactics), and left. Thanks to making reservations ahead of time and the new food stalls in the minis hall I don't think I ever even waited more than 5 minutes to get food.
I saw maybe 5 obvious trannies the whole time, none of them were within 50 feet of me, and nobody was cripplingly autistic or did severely cringey things any more than the inherent cringeness of actually playing games at a gaming convention instead of using that time to shitpost on a Madagascarian police appreciation forum. The presence or absence of the cringe types didn't affect my Gencon in the slightest.
I think your experiences may be unique to you, because I didn't have a single problem with Gencon the entire time. Well, ok, I had to wait in a long line to get a new room key when mine malfunctioned. But I wouldn't skip a Gencon for a problem like that. >I will allow that whatever the frick went on with Disney is, in fact, cringe and terrible. But I wasn't anywhere near that, and anyone who WAS near it probably deserved it for trying to get in a line to buy Disney shit at Gencon
>I saw maybe 5 obvious trannies the whole time, none of them were within 50 feet of me, and nobody was cripplingly autistic or did severely cringey things any more than the inherent cringeness of actually playing games at a gaming convention instead of using that time to shitpost on a Madagascarian police appreciation forum. The presence or absence of the cringe types didn't affect my Gencon in the slightest.
Completely divorced from what I was talking about anon. Why are you so goddamn obsessed with the trannies?
I agree, you can absolutely avoid most of the bad parts by doing a little planning ahead and its not hard to have a good time at Gencon if you're not an antisocial moron. But it is absolutely lousy with some of the most obvious trannies I've ever seen
>Loved going to anime cons >but the explosion in popularity in the past few years have made them intolerable.
What were anime cons like before they exploded in popularity, anon?
I've been going to anime cons for decades and they're better now than they've ever been.
Not AX that one sucks
But the ratio of people who are about to actually communicate and shower while still being diehard fans has gone through the roof. Especially this last two years, when all the people who spent 2020 by themselves at finally out and loose.
It's basically the same other than that. In around 2015 a bunch of dudebros discovered con raves and started going to them and so they really locked down on being drunk in public around then. Which is a shame because that was my favorite thing to do. It's still fine to just do in the room parties though.
>Be a young leaf >Feel sad that the only mini cons in cucknadia seem to be unpopular smoll town conventions. >Grow up. >See a plague of normie consoomers flooding into the hobby in the last decade. >Am now grateful that mini cons are held and attended by a handful of passionate locals in small towns away from le hustle&bustle
I'm still sad I never put in the time to go experience gencon when it was at it's best, but at least the alternatives still exist.
I had fun the few times I went to GenCon, but it's a very expensive way to spend 4-5 days for the chance to shop in the dealer's hall (stuff that will almost all be available online anyways), pay way too much for food truck slop, and walk around a lot of very crowded convention halls and hotels.
You can have a great time, especially if you aggressively plan out your weekend and pick out a lot of great events. But you can still end up at tables with annoying homosexuals and GMs who signed up to run events just to get a free badge, while having no actual desire or ability to run a good game. You can also get the opposite and end up with a table full of bros who will run a 2 hour game that you might never forget, but it's a toss up, and if you're going by yourself, instead of travelling with friends, you'll be at the mercy of the sea of redditors you see in these pics.
I never been to a con, I even stopped playing irl due to my excessive shyness that became worse and worse as I grow older. Now I mostly play online.
How are cons? Are they really worth it? They always seem fun from outside but I been in this hobby more than 20 years, never had the courage to go there on my own.
I started going to cons a few years ago and love them and now I go to every single one in my area to run games. I am rather shy too but I think its much easier to get over that shyness when you know that everyone else at the convention with you is a fellow nerd that you will be able to hit it off with. I would not go to GenCon, this thread has convinced me that a crowd that massive will just be annoying to deal with, but smaller local conventions (500-1000 people) are comfy as frick.
comic cons, scifi cons, video game cons and anime cons are garbage, there are no activities, they're just big shopping malls. But Tabletop game cons are different. You're not there to just browse hundreds of vendors, although that is an option. You're there to actually play games and meet people, they're completely different from the other nerd cons and much more fun.
i didn't let idioits oin the internet think for me. I saw pictures of people crammed like sardines waiting in ridiculously long lines for god knows what and I'm not fricking wasting my valuable vacation time spending literal hours in a line to do anything and not able to sign up for games because theres 20k people all competing for what few games there are being ran.
I've been to a few cons. Worked GenCon back in 09.
They can be fun, but you really have to know what you want out of them. For me, it was getting to try nee games; getting demos of stuff there wasn't a scene for locally and seeing games/companies I had never heard of was super exciting to me.
For other people they go for the tournaments. I knew people who went to LVO on the regular for the 40K tournament they ran every year.
Some people go to get their hands on stuff early, or just wander the vendor hall.
Overall, though, I've always had fun at them. Don't let /tg/ fool you with carefully selected pictures and five second video clips while screeching about "normies" and shit. There were "normies" and furries and obese neckbeard weebs at GrnCon back when I went and that was15 fricking years ago.
So, figure it what you want out of it and see if there's one that catches your eye. Adepticon and GenCon are two of the bigger ones in the U.S.
What this anon says- but absolutely do not go without hand sanitizer, and don't handle everything. This isn't a joke or anything, the Con Crud is real and it's absolutely terrible.
Christ you only live once dude, just go to one and find out. Can't handle crowds? Have a nip of the ol' liquid courage before you leave the hotel room. Have some experiences before you die in your mom's basement. I say this as a formerly chronic shy kid.
okay maybe I will feel at home here ... after going to comiccon for the first time and seeing how it was literally filled with nothing but stacys and chads, I was apprehensive about going to big cons as they seemed co-opted by normies
You're literally acting like the loser in the corner from the meme. That's you. Everyone else is having a great time, you're a pissbaby because ITS TOO CROWDED :(. The fact that's a complaint is proof you never leave your house.
look at this horseshit. you wanna deal with 5 hours lines to do anything? frick that. this con looks lame. I bet theres 1 game being ran for every 100 people at any given time and you basically can't even play anything, and while you're not playing anything, you can't even visit vendor halls or panels because the place looks like this
and it takes 3 hours to get from one and of a room to the next. it looks fricking miserable.
I go to local con every year, it's like 10k people event, and I never had problem with waiting lines, I just cut, the nerds are usually too busy ogling cosplay thots to notice and even when they do notice don't have the balls to say anything.
>5 hours lines to do anything
Never happens. Even at worst, will call takes like 30 minutes, and then you have your badge. There's no lines for events or anything like that, because they have slots. You just walk in.
The hall is only that packed first thing in the morning when everyone is trying to get into the exhibit hall as soon as it opens. This is mostly because big sellers will show up with several pallets of their newest thing and sell one pallet per day to give everyone a chance to get it.
GenCon is maybe the worst con for cosplayers. Not that people don't show up with some great costumes. There's usually a dozen full-sized space marines stomping around, but it just doesn't make sense for anyone to dress up when the dealer's hall is fricking packed the entire time and it's rude as frick to try and waddle through there in full costume and have people try to take pictures.
In my personal Gencon experience, the crowds are only really, really bad early in the morning when everyone wants to be in the dealers hall right away, which I've never understood because most of the time the shit you're after will be fine.
Beyond that, the crowds can be bad but never like, sardine levels. Granted, I've spent most of my times there in the game halls playing shit, rather than wandering around as such, and I've never tried to make any early events.
>Raiders and scavengers done picked through the ruins of Old Detroit long ago. Yer a century too late, son. They say that Lost Toronto is where the real adventure is now'days.
I'm weird, autistic and antisocial but I'm still levels above the absolute bottom of the barrel of humankind that compose these cons. Fat greasy manchildren acting like moronic 9 year olds with no shame...
>bottom of the barrel
These con-goers have money, double-Satan. They are entire worlds above LARPers.
I'm weird, autistic and antisocial but I'm still levels above the absolute bottom of the barrel of humankind that compose these cons. Fat greasy manchildren acting like moronic 9 year olds with no shame...
I wanted to get back into ttrpg recently, so I started trying to find players at my LGS. I was not prepared for the horror that awaited me. I'm not longer interested in the hobby. I'd rather just go back to reading the books. Thank you.
A lot of things look cringey to someone from the outside, but convention raves are super fun. It's nice to be around other nerds and cut loose. It's rather like how sports with other casual people in your skill range are fun(unlike getting stomped on gym class because the guys from the football team are in the same class as the theatre kids and the girl who survived cancer).
>I would honestly go to a SF con for Dragonriders of Pern/Elf Quest/horny middle aged women nerds before going to gen-con.
My bro found his wife at such a con. She's too old to have kids but she's the nicest girlfriend he's ever had. Has a great career too and just outright bought this house overlooking a lake for them to live in.
A gathering of nerds is a gathering of nerds? OP, nothing has changed. This was an insufferable crowd 20 years ago, and it's an insufferable crowd now.
Like others have been saying, go to smaller cons. I don't really see any reason to go to Gencon unless you really want something that's being pre-released there.
They didn't have one this year hence the record numbers. But them being morons and no planning well for 20k more people than last year was just as bad.
Well shit, I guess she heard wrong then. I'll let her know we can try planning for next year.
Like others have been saying, go to smaller cons. I don't really see any reason to go to Gencon unless you really want something that's being pre-released there.
PS: You guys did the right thing.
I'd prefer smaller cons but there are a few things at gencon specifically she wants to go for.
I honestly hate cons but I'll suck it for a minute to make my autist woman happy.
Like others have been saying, go to smaller cons. I don't really see any reason to go to Gencon unless you really want something that's being pre-released there.
I have really appreciated this thread and all its contribooters for the reports. I went to Gen Con in early 2000's and really have been wanting to go back. I am completely cured of that now - thanks.
I miss gencon only for the sagmore ballroom. For all Paizo's shortcomings the end of season multi table interactive are the funnest events I had gaming. But I won't wade back into that shit. When the marketing company took over gencon it changed.
Honorable mention to the iron GM games as well. My 2nd favorite event.
>When the marketing company took over gencon it changed.
Suits need to be kept out of gaming. This should be apparent to all gamers at this point.
You can always choose to not game with "normies"/"neckbeards" or "SJWs"/"Chuds" but if greedy sacks of shit who don't even play are running the show it destroys the entire community.
>You can always choose to not game with "normies"/"neckbeards" or "SJWs"/"Chuds" but if greedy sacks of shit who don't even play are running the show it destroys the entire community.
This. If you were a man I'd suck your dick for saying this, because it's true. And, hey- haven't you ever noticed when corporate slimeballs take over and start cutting corners and shitting up the product, they do a really good job of making sure we're all bickering about 'woke/based' instead of focusing on the source of the problem? >You can ignore a picture of a Black person elf or two homosexual dwarves kissing, but shitty game mechanics are a bit harder to deal with
This. I don't remember who it was that said this, some tech industry bigwig, and I'm paraphrasing, but you should never ever let bean counters become your CEO or hold any important position in your company whatsoever. If you do that, your company's whole business plan becomes counting beans, and instead of products you're just producing receipts.
Jesus frick you're all so fricking whiney. Maybe your weird sub culture deserves to die if the response to any strangers taking an interest is 'le reddit/Tumblr scum is within 200 feet of me, I must shit my pants and use the smell to reclaim my gaming clay' frick sake you're all fricking children.
Our 'weird subculture' was perfectly fine until we showed 'tolerance' and let tourists like you into it, then it turned into absolute garbage. Swine like you are the reason it's 'become more popular'... at the expense of it becoming some homogenized corporate lifestyle-brand sludge.
Considering the number of fantasy Heartbreakers out there and shitty D20 splats when wotc made the OGL, you were doing it to yourselves. Face it, you're just pissing yourself because no one's holding you wiener garblers on a pedestal as the true kings of gaming or some other self fellating bullshit. RPGs have always been commercial enterprises, right down to gygax, this myth that your shitty sub cul was pure is cope for the fact it isn't your shitty Conan rip off isn't the one making money
So what I'm hearing from you is that nothing is worthwhile until it gets turned into some corporate sludge.
Frick's sake, I love the fact that you homosexuals are always temporary in whatever you stick to. Even the sloppiest, most disgusting neckbeard has more value to the tabletop than you Funko-pop sucking swine.
Nah, I'm just saying you're a delusional frickface who can't recognize that it's always been about making money, you're just too naive to realize it. Blinded by your own delusions. Besides did it ever occur to you the reason they weren't popular back then was because they weren't that good? It took Wotc and corporate to make your shitty games actually playable an appealing to anyone that doesn't live in their mothers basement like you. Free market right? Good ideas rise to the top and become accepted.
>that it's always been about making money
There is a stage where people only want to make enough money to live whilst doing what they love. Games workshop for example was selling white dwarf and writing DnD supplements to yes, make money but also because they loved doing it and making money doing what they love is ideal. Then they began making minis to play their supplements with, and people liked them. Then they expressed their love for the hobby by making a wargame book with rules and and a story to play with their miniatures.
The company was growing, and they were able to expand to more than one store, and could make sci fi models inspired by their favourite cult comics and movies.
And at this point they were making a lot of money, and doing it for money rather than love took the forefront. But that doesn't mean it was always only about money.
9 months ago
Anonymous
b***h they made the wargame cause they lost the licensing rights to call their sci fi shit the names from the IPs they ripped off. Shit was to make more bank and save money on the molds. They took your dreams and sold them back to you like the paypiggy you are.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bro you skipped the early stages of gw. When they made a fanzine, when they wrote supplements for DnD. When they got the rights to sell DnD in England. Then they opened up their first store, and then produced models for DnD and other rpgs. Etc.etc.
If you are only after money you don't go for "writing 500 page wargame rulebook in 1980s"
They obviously were passionate for what they did, and making money with your passion is the ideal existence in the 20th century. What happened next for the sake of money is for the sake of money.
But that's not how you start.
No, you are not, you silly homosexual. Things did not get 'better', they got more accessible. You know, *for the handicapped*. You are a tourist, undeniably. You wouldn't have been welcomed at our tables- and let's face it:
The only reason you're here is because of us. Not the game. US. So you can interfere with what we have, and once it's ruined- you'll drift away to make others miserable.
No, the games weren't 'unplayable', and your corporate masters didn't improve anything- they just marketed the frick out of it, lowered the competency threshold- and now any idiot that can barely read at a fourth grade level can do the D&D.
By your logic, if I lower the standards for military enlistment- and more people join, I 'improved' the military.
Quality over quantity. And you, and those like you, are not quality. You are temporary, an infestation that is tolerated because we all know you'll drift away when you're not welcome.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ntayrt, but nerds have always disproportionately been fat, gay, otherwise sexually deviant, and even politically left wing relative to the gen pop. Star Trek cons were one of the main places cp got swapped pre-internet, many classic SF writers were NAMBLA adjacent. What's happened is that these already extant, and frankly dominant aspects of nerddom have swelled past your personal level of disgust tolerance.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So what you're saying is all the pedophiles and sexual predators that knew to keep their heads down before, now see no reason to hide what they are in the new era when they're around like-minded persons?
I cannot argue with this.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, at this rate DnD is gonna really be the only tabletop game anyone needs. Have you seen the numbers, even if it dies tabletop games have been normalized the same way videogames have. And much like videogames they actually have value now. People can actually play these games instead of having to deal with the creepy nerds that sit in the back of gaming shop who'll jump on them for not being able to name both continents where Vecna's individual testicles were hidden. Fact is you're not a stalwart fricking champion or whatever shit you imagine. You're the tumor that was keeping DnD from being what Gygax intended.
A lot of nerds are buttholes. The Liz Lemon highschool reunion episode rings very true.
WotC DnD has been catering to buttholes outside of the classic SF and Fantasy fandom, however.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, at this rate DnD is gonna really be the only tabletop game anyone needs. Have you seen the numbers, even if it dies tabletop games have been normalized the same way videogames have. And much like videogames they actually have value now. People can actually play these games instead of having to deal with the creepy nerds that sit in the back of gaming shop who'll jump on them for not being able to name both continents where Vecna's individual testicles were hidden. Fact is you're not a stalwart fricking champion or whatever shit you imagine. You're the tumor that was keeping DnD from being what Gygax intended.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But when you try to go to the store and find a DnD group now there is a guaranteed troony who will make sexual advances at every chance, a morbidly obese man with dyed colourful hair who hasn't showered in a month, a severely autistic and stuttery b***h who takes 10 minutes on a turn and an "overly" charismatic dude who talks like a victorian aristocrat who thinks he is the best GM in the world because he hides dice rolls and let's the bard seduce every npc (played by the troony)
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you can't google where vecna's individual testes were impregnated unto the earth you don't deserve to sit at the same table as me. Enjoy normies applying their proficiency bonus to damage and sneak attacking on a barbarian.
9 months ago
Anonymous
ever heard of cnauir or karsa or CONAN?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong. I don't know what Gygax intended. In fact, what Gygax actually did on his own is rather questionable. You see, I don't know and nor do I care. You know why?
You were the exact kind of thing we all were getting away from when we played. When we had fun, it was more fun because you weren't invited. And you weren't invited because no matter how 'pathetic' we were? You were magnitudes more unlikable than we were. And for decades it burned your ass that even us lowly nerds refused to humor your antics.
And then we made the mistake of trying to be accepting, and rest assured- we will not make that same mistake again.
Have you noticed we're still not playing with you, and all you can do is crane your head and say "What are they doing?" as you lick your slimy lips and see one more thing you can move into to get payback, because we made you feel beneath us.
And we should have never stopped.
>We didn't gatekeep hard enough
This shit will never not be funny.
What's the strategy? Stand outside of game shops and wait for blue-hairs so you can scare them away? Is that going to be your day job now?
How do you possibly imagine stopping people from buying books on Amazon? How are you going to stop "tourists" from running games in their homes? How are you going to personally stop people making TTRPGs that are "too woke" for you?
Communists play D&D, fascists play D&D, prison inmates play D&D. You gonna build an internet task force to stop these people by sending strongly worded emails?
It's the Current Year homie, you can buy a physical copy of Basic Fantasy, it's expansion books, a bag of a dozen dice, papers and pencils for under $50 on Amazon. How do you gatekeep that?
does he though? do any of us do? rule of thumb being Gankerners being guys, and since We Live In A Society, there is no future for men that doesn't end with us in a shallow grave, a 5'x5'x'5 prison cell or being financially exsanguinated by vampiric femoids and similarly vampiric government agencies that will eventually put us in the previously mentioned shallow grave or prison cell.
So which is it anon? death, eternal imprisonment or financial exsanguination leading to the previously mentioned end-state?
> Gatekeeping is funny because they can still buy!
Hey, dumbass, attitude towards newcomers influence if they stick with it or not. Can't you even imagine shit as simple that? Fricking moron.
So you're going to personally go find every person who's running a game and give them attitude?
It's not the fricking middle ages, 99% of people in western counties are literate. If you can read a book you can run a game of D&D. This isn't some samurai bushido bullshit that has to be passed down or it stops existing, you LITERALLY can buy the D&D starter pack on Amazon.com or at an LGS and just start running games with friends, there's actually nothing stopping that from happening.
Just because you're personally rude doesn't magically stop people from playing, it just stops them from playing with you. Just because some people don't personally play tabletop games with you doesn't mean they magically stop existing. You're literally delusional if you think otherwise, other people exist, how the frick do you expect to gatekeep literally everyone else? Are you going to coordinate with every GM in the entire world and demand they conform to your attitude towards newcomers? Good luck with that.
>you LITERALLY can buy the D&D starter pack on Amazon.com or at an LGS and just start running games with friends, there's actually nothing stopping that from happening.
There should be. Normies don't deserve to play our games.
You gatekeep with complexity. I don't play rules lite shit and therefore I never have to deal with trannies. Its that simple. Is it harder to find games? Certainly compared to something like 5e, but the quality of the average player is so much higher that its well worth it.
>You gatekeep with complexity.
NTA but that's almost as dumb. If that was true, MTG and 40k would have fantastic playerbases. The way to do it is keeping out anyone that has little regard for, say, a system or hobbying despite insisting on becoming invested enough to play consistently.
Neither of those games are complex man.
40k is perhaps the simplest thing calling itself a wargame.
And magic? Seriously?
Are you lying or honestly mentally infirm?
9 months ago
Anonymous
MTG and 40k are ultra simple, dummyproof versions of their respective hobbies aimed at exploiting the lowest common denominator. they're gateway games that most players grow out of reasonably quickly. but for those that don't or can't, they literally are the filter that keeps undesirables out of better parts of /tg/.
like you want gatekeeping, that's it, those two and D&D. if you're still playing them and you're old enough to know better, then I've got some bad news - you're one of the people the gate was being kept against. the fact that you're surprised a filter gets gunked up with trash over time just reinforces that.
Like 5e, their core rule sets are simple although inflexible, but the moving pieces and special rules on top of them make them very bloated. It's false simplicity, meant with the purpose of scooping the "lowest common denominator" to sunk cost them with mandatory additional rules and constant balance changes. 8th and 9th edition 40k had this problem, and it is likely to repeat with 10th. You can't tell me with a straight face MTG doesn't have a similar issue.
9 months ago
Anonymous
bloat is not the same as complexity. 40k (and a lot of gw games historically) have huge amounts of bloat, but remain very simple games aimed primarily at very simple people.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>bloat is not the same as complexity.
You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Complexity isn't inherently a good thing, but not all complicated things are bloated, even if bloat is inherently complicated.
>very simple games
See above.
>aimed primarily at very simple people.
That I agree with.
9 months ago
Anonymous
they're distinct things. you want an apples to apples comparison, here. 40k is bloated and simplistic. ASL is bloated and complex. both bloated, but they attract different types of players. which one, in your experience, has a chiller playerbase?
>the games that are more complex, in very broad terms, DO have fantastic playerbases.
I could think of several games that indicate otherwise.
I'd bet a week's wage you trot out something else with fake complexity that rewards time invested more than actual intelligence.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>I'd bet a week's wage you trot out something else with fake complexity that rewards time invested more than actual intelligence.
Is that so? Maybe we should see which games you consider to be an example of having what you define to be real complexity. ASL has better players because it can simulate historical games. Bolt Action is as much of a historical game as Inglorious Bastards is a historical film. Sorry I accidentally responded to one of my own posts instead of yours by the way.
MTG and 40k are ultra simple, dummyproof versions of their respective hobbies aimed at exploiting the lowest common denominator. they're gateway games that most players grow out of reasonably quickly. but for those that don't or can't, they literally are the filter that keeps undesirables out of better parts of /tg/.
like you want gatekeeping, that's it, those two and D&D. if you're still playing them and you're old enough to know better, then I've got some bad news - you're one of the people the gate was being kept against. the fact that you're surprised a filter gets gunked up with trash over time just reinforces that.
the games that are more complex, in very broad terms, DO have fantastic playerbases. mtg and 40k aren't that.
get a little older and branch out in your chosen sub-hobby a bit and you'll see what I mean.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the games that are more complex, in very broad terms, DO have fantastic playerbases.
I could think of several games that indicate otherwise.
Impossible to gatekeep when the company who makes the product someone is presuming they have the ability to defend, is actively trying to get all of those undesirables inside their gate as fast as possible with the explicit intent to turn them into life-long paypig customers.
>with the explicit intent to turn them into life-long paypig customers.
And why do you hate capitalism, exactly? Anything short of this is socialism, and you aren't a frickin commie, right?
Please stop being a giant moronic homosexual. We've got too much of that already. Blind brand loyalty allows for bad business practices to slide. WotC should have had it's offices torched years ago, but the paypig conditioning has allowed them to continually become more and more complacent and lazy with the products and services they offer, because instead of cultivating a good business with sustainable practices, they have instead aimed for the cult business model where they expect everyone to just consume product and then get excited for next product.
>Meanwhile growing up we had trans women dressing up as their characters and at least putting some goddamn effort into it.
You mean you had men putting effort into wearing a woman costume. Declaring yourself to be "trans X" has no actual value and is based entirely on a flimsy concept of subjective self perception (utterly unimportant) and/or adherence to a bizarro world interpretation of 1950's sexual stereotypes.
Anyway, here's a fine example of how transracial people have always been a part of films and entertainment, especially in board games where people dress up as a variety of races. Just fyi, this man is of course fully entitled to say the full array of words that begin with N. Trans rights are human rights, so you say.
What about Dragoncon? That always seemed to be the con to go to if you wanted to smoke a bowl in your room and hook up with a 40 year old dressed like a tavern wench.
>Edward Eliot Kramer (born March 20, 1961) is an American editor and convicted child molester.
Lmao right for the throat in the first sentence. It does say that he cashed out of all dragoncon ownership 10 years ago, though.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>mfw due to that and Zimmer Bradley's daughter I found out that most of old convention SF/F authors from Berkley / Cali were either pedos like Breen, Zimmer Bradley, Kramer, Asimov and Clarke or pedo associates & overt defenders of the former despite multiple convictions including McCaffrey & Ellison and how pretty much anyone who ran in those circles in the 60s through 00s is incredibly suspect
Kind of depressing but then I realized I don't really care about any of them or their books and all my favorite authors weren't convention cliquesters.
The only one I even have any nostalgia for were the Eddings, which I already realized weren't great authors, who turned out to have been convicted for very severe physical abuse of kids they adopted in 1970. (keeping them in actual cages, malnourishing them and beating them with leather straps)
Glad there's nothing on Jack Vance, Fritz Leiber, REH or any of the really old superb fantasy authors.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Basically you should assume that any male who had any importance, power, or influence, over other people from the dawn of human civilization, up until yesterday, have been pedos. That way you won't be disappointed when you find out they actually are.
Because they all are. Every time.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nah i'll just stick to the facts and healthy skepticism towards people who my pattern recognition tells me deserve it in the future.
>pic
Oh shit, I've been raw-dogging my gf and finishing in her ass for like 3 years now ...
I guess we've been lucky. I'll look into getting some condoms
I've gone to GenCon the past 14 years consecutively now.
I used to have some fun there, playing games, meeting people. Ever since about 2014-2015, I've actually been working in the industry, and so my motivation to attend is now totally business-oriented. Scouting things, networking, purchasing supplies at reduced rates, etc.
But every time, I still have *SOME* free time over the 5 days, and I branch out, because why not? And every time, for the past 7-8 years, it's goddamned fricking insufferable. Literally every worst part of the tabletop community is present from money-hungry big corporate advertisers who make WotC-themed ice cream that has nothing to do with actual gaming, to rural indie-dev know-nothings who think this is their big break but their product is niche dogshit that nobody wants to even look at. From inbred weaboos who think selling modern-popular bishounen anime T-shirts is somehow the same category of thing as designing a board game, to juggernauts of the industry who haven't changed their methods for decades and exist only based on name recognition and because they fricking GOUGE their customers, like GW, who sell you their normally produced game-store boxes at the Con, but charge you shipping as well, because the boxes had to be shipped to the Con, and they just pass the cost directly onto the consumer.
And it's all fricking sickening. For every cool idea you see from a passionate developer, you see two furry butt-plug or "mug of dice" stores. For every artist with a unique style, who you may recognize from old MTG cards or something, you see two trans-colored saturated metal-plate posters depicting housecats with a QR-code that links to the part where they were featured on Critical Role.
If you think these examples seem too specific to be made up, that's correct.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
>Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor
I could suddenly smell the bathrooms at Gencon 2001 again as I read this. Absolutely vile. I think walking around the con and going up the stairs/escalators was more core exercise than the neckbeards got all year and dislodged months of backed up poo.
I always insist on getting a hotel room room connected to the convention center for this reason. I want to be able to easily retreat back to my room to shit(or drop off merch I've bought, nap, etc).
>their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement
I've seen that. Or at least I've seen when it's a garden wagon. Honestly I dont think it's bad because kids always want to bring their toys to things and then you have nappy and other stuff. Some kids are runners so putting them in a box is better than having them run off delighting in their parents panic as they try to dive in bushes or around corners. It's probably like being in a little boat for them.
Fatties can step aside. Putting the toddler in a wagon is better for everyone than letting the brat on a leash or carriage. Little goblins figure out the straps at that age.
Children shouldn't be allowed in conventions at all. These are games intended for adults, and the little shits have no place there and they aren't wanted.
I'd take NTRPGCon over Gencon pretty much any day of the week.
>NTRPGCon
Children and old people. Looks like a shit convention to skip forever.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
Are you having fun? You don't sound like you're having fun, you sound incredibly upset.
Are you having fun? You don't sound like you're having fun, you sound incredibly upset.
I posted a meme in response to a dude who posted four pages of complaining about FRICKING NERDS PLAYING BOARD GAMES, and you all piss and shit and cum, and I'm the one that's upset? Oh the ironing.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Please share more of your frustration oh based anon. For real.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
>I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
You sound like a homosexual who's trying to hard to tick as many "things Ganker doesn't like" checkboxes.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
>They hated Anon because he told them the truth
Those who don't understand how unbearably real these posts are will never understand, because they are part of the problem.
Wow, the times and tribulations of a retail wagie at a trade show.
How insightful, how poignant. Who else could tell us that they hate every other human being on the planet and bemoan how tabletop gaming is overpriced?
Invoking "Fun" does not refute anything that dude said.
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>conventions aren't supposed to be fun, they're about... I don't know, gatekeeping and racism and stuff
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I posted a meme in response to a dude who posted four pages of complaining about FRICKING NERDS PLAYING BOARD GAMES, and you all piss and shit and cum, and I'm the one that's upset? Oh the ironing.
Desperate. You could have just walked away, but you insist on coming back to make an ass of yourself.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
As a rural know-nothing dev who makes RPGs based on dogshit niches I take some offense that my RPGs are niche, dogshit, and dont sell for shit. My shit is above par quality!
Did anyone else meet the Doomroll guy? This dude was demoing a game he was "making" and telling me his game was going to take on 40k. It was going to be a mini agnostic game with barebones gameplay for ease of entry and fast play and he did all the art, lore, and rules using AI. he looked so hopeful about this thing taking off and being a 40k competitor I just did not have the heart to tell him this was a crackpot idea.
There's a certain kind of homosexual who can unironically believe in their own scam idea with 100% certainty and confidence and a specific kind of brainless moron who is susceptible to being infected with that kind of confidence. You see them most often with cryptobros and NFTgays. Unsurprised that the guy was an AI zealot, since those same kind of overconfident morons are instinctually attracted to anything that seemingly promises massive returns at minimum investment.
Nah, not a 40k killer. nothing that quality will ever be appreciated by the masses. But he did "make it" for a short while. he was basically a one-man operation those first couple years, and he put out a game - a complete game, rules, minis, terrain, fluff, the whole package - that shamed the competition on every metric. it's a hell of a thing, maybe *almost* impossible, but not quite. not quite.
I go every year, I go to tons of events every year. Maybe 10% of people are the type he's complaining about, which is still better odds than the general population. Most people at gencon are nice, polite, a and there for a good time. But please, continue to post anime faces. It definitely doesn't reek of seething.
>I post every day, I go to tons of subreddits every day. Maybe 10% of people are the type he's complaining about, which is still better odds than the general population. Most people on reddit are nice, polite, a and there for a good time. But please, continue to post anime faces. It definitely doesn't reek of seething.
I understand his frustrations completely (I was a fast food GM for five years) but being a joyless, miserable c**t isn’t any more respectable than being an oblivious, blue-haired dickhead.
The best year I've ever had at Gencon was a year or so ago where the restrictions for Covid had just been lifted and the capacity was at around half the norm. You could fricking walk around and hold your arms out without scraping the grease off the moron next to you. The only downside was the GW booth not having Black Library stuff.
I went to that one too. While the extra breathing room was nice, they had 1/3rd as many events, their overall planning and use of space was much worse, and there wasn't a lot to do because all the groups running the mini paint-and-take or GM on demand, or any of the smaller activities refused to show up. It was not the kind of con you expect for the price they make you pay just to attend.
the "trick" at cons is to just do the one thing 99% of the shitty people would never consider - play games the whole time. you'll hardly have to deal with any of them.
plan your weekend right and you can get in 3 or 4 tournaments and 20+ pickup games pretty easily.
>live in indy, always meant to go to gencon >always manage to miss it by a couple days since I don’t get newspapers anymore and their local advertising is dogshit
gencon hasnt been gencon since 97
explain, elder anon
It was all over when they moved from Milwaukee.
I got to see Gencon at Mecca with my uncle once as middle school guy before they moved. The building after that didn't have much sovl.
I guess it's hard to compete with a giant convention center connected to multiple hotels but it feels shitty to move it away from Wisconsin.
Very true. I saw a lot of weird sensitive gay/bi guys in gaming in the 00's who eventually went trans. And then the autogynephilia epidemic really took off in the IT/gaming/anime communities post-2010 as streaming porn got big and families and subcultures eroded.
>the California consumerist nerd convention is full of Californian consumerist nerds
Shocker
Gencon is in Indianapolis.
>California, IN
Based mouthbreathing moron.
WE'RE ALL LIVING IN CALIFORNIA
CALIFORNIA
IST WUNDERBAR
>I'm so mad about California!!!
>Arrrrgh! California!!!!
>I'm so angar!!!!
Gencon is in Indiana. You might have been subconsciously reminded of Vampire: Masquerade because the club looks just like Jeanette's club with promenade, gothic architecture, dancefloor, and elevator in the same locations and that game took place in Santa Monica, California.
one of the paizo booths literally wouldn't let you near unless you said trans rights
based, like Indiana Jones punching Nazis for 45 minutes...
>women are all fat.
>women dressed like a wierd mix of medieval and bawd.
>wierd brown man has his shirt off.
>women shaking their breasts but everyone is 2 ft away from each other
Are they not rules or shit
>wierd brown man has his shirt off.
Literally what are you talking about
In the left next to the title shaker
It's pretty safe to assume some, possibly most, of people in dress are in fact not women.
Those two are the same guy with different outfits. Actually the non-crossdressing guy has bigger breasts.
Trans rights are human rights.
But damn you ain't wrong.
There's no such thing as trans rights. Only special privileges to be enforced through government's monopoly on violence.
What special privileges do they get enforced by the government? Y'all's just mad at corpos pinkwashing shit for free publicity.
Anyways Trans people have been in DnD and TTRPGs in general since forever. Gosh, where could the attraction be in playing a different character with the opposite gender for a closeted Trans person lol. They've always been there, and honestly they're usually much less of a homosexual about it than people who go on b***hing about it.
If anything we need to stop the lazy "trans" """people""" who were just so fricking ugly they gave up and went a direction that keeps them from being criticized for their sloppy jelly bodies and unkempt appearances.
Meanwhile growing up we had trans women dressing up as their characters and at least putting some goddamn effort into it.
There's more protections for trannies than not. In some countries, hatespeech laws can get someone in deep shit for calling a fat homosexualy moron the wrong pronouns.
No one is denying that trannies exist or saying that they haven't existed before. Simply that they don't deserve special protections or the ability to compel speech and behavior. The rest of the world shouldn't have to play along with a delusion moron's mentally ill LARP.
>What special privileges do they get enforced by the government?
Not being strung up on a lamppost like they deserve, for one. If you didn't get the special privilege of government protection, you can bet every last one of those people would be dead and good riddance.
In Cuckanada you'll go to jail if your wife wants your son on hormones and you either refuse to allow it or dare refer to him as your son. You'll also be expelled from school or fired for speaking your mind about it. I'm not sure where you live, but this is life here.
>your wife wants your son on hormones
I dont know man you don't even sound like you have kids, but that's a weird fricked up scenario you've just invented. Usually the kid wants to transition, not one of the parents, and if you had a kid who was trans you would make their lives worse instead of better which is kind of against the idea of parenting.
I don't see the big problem anyway. What's wrong with weak genes removing themselves?
Kids aren't old enough to make these kinds of life altering decisions you sick frick. This is like saying that your kid wants to be schizophrenic. No. It's a mental illness.
CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER
MALE OR (FE)MALE
obligatory
HON trans are making them look bad by being absolutely everywhere and dressing like complete dumbasses
Were my country gone?
I saw it just 2 seconds ago
>wearing shirt for my favorite system
>is someone I would spit on before talking to
>Manbun
That's almost a worse crime than the crossdresser tbqh
Fighting game alternate costume.
wearing a mask outside, very health conscious
literally sold out
>scooter rentals
>fatass con
Someone is smart.
I've come across more than a few people online who were eager to go, but were constantly b***hing and moaning that GenCon's anti-covid policies weren't strict enough.
Sweaty hambeasts breathing through moldy, spit-soaked rags all day, having anxiety attacks because they're going to have to stand less than 6 feet apart with strangers, thinking they're the only ones who care about everyone's health the whole weekend.
That chair...
she needs to up her game
or just not play at all
Dude this grudge rock folk punk album cover from cablePath goes so hard
If God exists, why does he allow people to get this fat? Why don't they just explode after they hit a certain BMI?
It's clearly Midwestern Emo.
You just know those water bottles are full of soda.
Or worse, sweat tea.
Star Wars CCG was actually good..
Anon how much of your day was spent people watching? Lol it makes me smile since I'd judge the same. I'm too fat at the moment I'd not even want to be seen in public like this. God, to imagine I could be compared to these onions freaks is enough for me to not go to a convention atleast not until I'm peak fitness and can mog.
not a lot, these are mostly crops i noticed after the fact
but it's a huge pain to be stuck behind them in, especially in the vendor hall
Fat people should be killed
As long as we define fat people as anyone with a BMI over 20, yes, I'm in.
I don't know if that's a good metric since a lot of bodybuilders have a BMI over 30 despite having almost no fat on their body.
I thing we should just stick to the tried and true "25 consecutive pushups" rule.
>says whiney pussy who can do exactly 25 push-ups then fricking dies
(You)
Imagine having to jerk off with an onahole on a stick like some kind of depraved croquet mallet.
Here's what you don't understand. When people say that BMI isn't a good metric they assume that it's because healthy people are being listed as being overweight. It's actually the opposite problem.
>It's actually the opposite problem.
Only if you're a dwarf. BMI is perfectly fine for determining whether you're overweight for the majority of people.
How about weight divisions like in sports?
No, 22% is fine and is a desired average in my opinion, for men.
BMI is not a percentile measure
OK then. 22 bmi is ideal for men. A bit of fat to survive hard times, plenty of room for muscles, can maintain real strength and you don't need to live like an anorexic emo girl from 2006 starving themselves to stay slim.
I'm trying.
Why do you think I'm so god damn fat? Death by literal inches. I'm trying to make myself implode like a Chinese skyscraper through sheer bulk, but I'm fricking stalled out at 380 no matter how much I eat.
It's bullshit, I smoked three packs a day, eat garbage food constantly, drink a gallon of mad dog 20/20 a week, and my liver, lungs, blood sugar, cholesterol, and shit are all fine when I'm pushing 50.
WHY WON'T I FRICKING DIE?
Time to move on to cocaine or some other hard drug, I guess.
Imagine the smell
This looks like a depiction of hell
I could not agree more.
thanks a lot OP, I actually needed reasons why NOT to go to GenCon and I think this convinced me. No way do I wanna deal with lines and crowds like this
I guess I'll be going to Adepticon, GaryCon, or some UK Wargaming con instead for my first out of state convention then.
also, whats the best UK convention? Partizan? Salute? Preferably not one of the 40k-centric cons.
Also I've heard UK cons are different. In the US cons are an entire weekend affair and its usually connected to a hotel so you're staying and living alongside other gamers for an entire weekend, while in the UK, cons are just 1 day events. Is that true?
There's certainly a lot of one-day cons in the UK, usually smaller ones or ones held by unis, but there's a lot of multiday affairs. These tend to be the bigger ones, like UK Games Expo, Dragonmeet, MCM, Airecon...
t. lived in UK for 10 years
I can't decide if TTRPGs are thriving or dying.
I mean, there's a lifestyle brand element now(not all the people who listen to Critical Role or have a plush D20 on their shelf actually play) but it's harder and harder to actually wrangle people to show up for games since everyone's so burnt-out and there are more easily available sources of dopamine.
>I can't decide if TTRPGs are thriving or dying.
Neither. The Golden Age is over, but they are not dying so much as a ghost. The remnant of a glorious time before pocket computers ended all book reading and utterly destroyed peoples imaginations, attention span, enjoyment, and social capabilities.
The novel and short story died. People just don't read fantasy novels or short stories any more, and RPGs are really downstream of that stuff. So you end up with this creatively incestuous and self-referential monolith that D&D has become. Frankly WOTC to this very day is coasting off the creative output of the 1980s and 1990s genre fiction scene, which TSR played no small part in.
I don't know how people can possibly say its dying or that games are somehow harder to gather, its bigger and more commercialized than its ever been and I suspect its only going to continue growing. I am old enough to remember when D&D was actually extremely niche and it was just me and my friends who played this game in high school, and a teacher had to introduce it to us. Now I go to the LGS and the open D&D nights are packed with dozens of people from high school aged to boomers and thats not even counting the boom of online game groups that allow people across the country to play together whenever they want whereever they are
>Now I go to the LGS and the open D&D nights are packed with dozens of people from high school aged to boomers
See, that's what I was suggesting. That it's easy to dip your toes in but that doesn't always translate to deeper participation. Like if I go to some open gaming event at the FLGS, am I going to be playing with the same people the next week? Get the same character to level 12+?
>That it's easy to dip your toes in but that doesn't always translate to deeper participation.
It does
Also that pic is like five years old if it still makes you angry then you need to get your brain checked.
It absolutely still makes me angry because the person that said this wasn't killed. Yes, my imaginary worlds, tabletop games, and entertainment is more valuable to me than the life of some rando. I acknowledge this fact, own it, but make no apologies. I am the most important person in my own world and thus wish to see it just how I want it.
>am I going to be playing with the same people the next week? Get the same character to level 12+?
yes dude, i have no clue why you would think you couldn't. what? its called making friends, or telling the player "I had a lot of fun, when can we do that again, heres my number!". Peoples ability to do that shit didn't just disappear.
>bipoc lounge
where have I seen that before?
Yes, an inclusive spot where people can gather and feel welcomed is the same thing as an apartheid state's exclusionary measures.
Well then let's get the straight white guy lounge at the next Gencon
Literally every lounge is the straight white guy lounge. It's the fricking default you weirdo.
>inclusive
Its literally exclusive by its very nature you moron.
I’ll always find it hilarious that the type of folks that fought against “seperate but equal” 60 years ago are now championing the same idea as progressive so long as you label it a “safe space” and “inclusive”.
It’s not dying; it’s bigger than ever. That said, the twin-pronged lance of increased normalhomosexualry and commercial viability means all the creativity and passion in the hobby, and the hobby itself really, are being replaced with risk-adverse “content” generation that prioritizes trend chasing over everything else.
It’s not going anywhere, it’s just losing its identity, priorities and values in order to better serve as a commercial enterprise. And for folks like us, that may very well feel like it’s dying out.
envisage the bouquet
>drop a firework
>10 people killed
>Ryder truck loaded with fertilizer
Underrated and devilish
Elucidate the aroma
What the frick is a "mental foramen"?
>he doesn't have the mental foramen to know what a mental foramen is
luhmao
supox detected
this board is for humans only, spaceBlack person
A nerve that runs through your jaw. I'm not sure what it has to do with anything. Most likely the creator doesn't know what a mental foramen is either.
Redpill me on wolfaboos
Y'know that viking movie that came out last year? The Northman?
The last few times I've been there it wasn't too bad. The building is pretty well air conditioned, but that many people together does get hot.
It helps that while we all skew towards freaks and degeneracy, tabletop gaming as a whole is a social habit.
where's waldo looking a bit different than i remember
Visualize the aroma
Unless you wanted to get into the hall to wait in line/buy shit immediately at 10am, it was never this crowded. A lot of the densepack crowd was waiting to buy the didneyworl game.
There was plenty of other stuff to do and the miniature painting classes I took were really useful.
Definitely recommend going if you can afford a hotel, they're expensive as frick for the weekend, even near the airport. Indy has some good bars and restaurants too, especially if you're willing to outwalk the big chungi in distance from the convention center.
t. booth owner
Remember when conventions used to be about sneaking around the hotel late at night, attending panels, and making friends with people who shared your niche hobby?
Now it's like a big cattle pen designed to drain you of as much money as possible.
>women are all fat.
Seed oils, added sugars, and smartphone social contagion. Remember all the really interesting types of geek girl(like the elf-y looking ones, the sexy librarian types, the theatre hoes, etc) and now it's just fatties and gendergoblin/nonbinary types.
>Now it's like a big cattle pen designed to drain you of as much money as possible.
Smaller cons can still be chill, but the big cons are corporate events for corralling as many paypigs as possible. Practically psychologically engineered to mentally abuse people and make them more pliable to forming unhealthy attachments to brands and studios.
>now it's just fatties and gendergoblin/nonbinary types.
Literally untrue and you damn well know it.
You wish you were right
He is right, only insofar as the statement that the convention is JUST fatties and troony-adjacent people is literally untrue. There's plenty of people who don't meet those definitions. There's a lot MORE fatties and troony-adjacent types than there should be, sure, and more than I want to see in public (that number being 0), but his statement is correct and yours is not. Gencon looks bad enough on its own. It doesn't need your help making it look like the money grab for social rejects that it's always been.
the containment board beckons you to come to their conventions, anon: they are small, but large enough to pack a decent rave in, they have a community, and they have a big fantasy, roleplaying and table top and card game scene.
Can you resist?
Neigh.
Is this not violating some kind of safety regulation?
Look up crowd crush deaths. That shit is absolutely violating safety regs, depending on which state it's in.
These cons are about cash, always have been but with the massive mainstreaming of the hobbies the cons have grown before regulations (and the culture of enforcing them) have caught up. Eventually there'll be deaths and lawsuits and then due to liability convention centres will start actually enforcing proper safety standards.
The crowd at the bottom doesn't violate anything, it would be an issue if you had this density of people in place for seating (eg. cinema), but as a "walking" crowd there's no limit. There might be violation of weight-per-square-feet limit at the balconies, but as long as they don't start jumping or marching in unison it's probably safe too.
It's America, safety regulations are seen as sort of an optional extra for homosexuals over there.
Probably. If you see it yourself take a pic and send it to that states Health and Safety.
Be the cranky old man you want to see! The one we deserve!
what is this? please don't tell me the entire convention is like this? this is destroying any desire I had to go to this thing. I've seen pictures of huge crowds of packed sardines and of people dancing, where are the RPG games? where are the wargames? where are the board games? what do the panels look like? It can't possibly be this miserably crowded all the time.
This is why I've never been to a convention in my life. I just can't imagine there's anything worth the queueing.
a vast majority of them are not like GenCon and are very comfy.
This. I love Origins, it's just the right size. Gencon was wack this year but at least I had them mail my badge instead of worrying about will call.
conceptualise the effluvia
Envisage the stench
This is the entrance to the main floor on day one. There's an entire convention center attached to multiple hotels and a mall and they all have events. It's never like this outside of the first half hour.
Xd
Why would anyone go to that, it probably has every reddit onions boi lego posters in the country there.
I went there the first three years after it moved to Indy. I came to the decision the dealer area was the only thing I was interested in on what it offered. From what I've heard from others the place is now overrun with MCU/CR normies coopting the /tg/ culture.
More or less yeah since they have demos for days, unless you care about wargaming/boardgame tournments, or think ahead of time to sign up to try out some one-shots. I liked the times I went, although I would hate going there by myself.
With that many people is there actually the opportunity to do anything if you didn't buy tickets for one of the events or is it all just shuffling through the masses?
My understanding is you have 24 hours to sign up for anything when it first becomes available before it's all sold out. The con is going to get to the point were your going to be buying tickets 2-3 years in advance due to demand.
There are constant events everywhere all weekend. Even if the main thing you wanted for a specific hour is full, there's always something to do somewhere.
Cons in general have gotten way too popular
Loved going to anime cons but the explosion in popularity in the past few years have made them intolerable.
>Loved going to anime cons
>but the explosion in popularity in the past few years have made them intolerable.
What were anime cons like before they exploded in popularity, anon?
autistic weirdos genuinely showing their love for shit, honest amateur costumes instead of pro cosplay garbage, random guys selling their small run mecha kits they made in their garages.
The thing I miss most was genuine cos play that ranged from shitty to impressive. Not these 5000 dollar custom engineered runway model bullshit.
A cute girl cos playing something with a 250 buck budget using shit from the local costume shop was cuter than anything a "Pro," can do
Sounds like SOVL
Like Ganker before it got taken over by bots that insert anon into every question they ask.
When did that happen, anon?
The most unfortunate thing about cons of various nerdy subcultures getting more popular is that so many cons are becoming the same and losing their specific identities, when the common "MCU/Disney Star Wars/Netflix anime" normalgay nerd crowd is so massive and it makes most financial sense to pander to their generic and boring tastes.
Getting attacked by fat moronic b***hes with wooden paddles.
Gencon 10+ years ago was a great time. I would absolutely not go any year after 2014, but it's gotten 1000x worse thanks to 2016 and 2019.
Last time I went we sprinted between scheduled sessions and classes to make it through all the games we wanted to play and stuff like a Blacksmithing course.
I mean, it depends on what parts of Gencon you expose yourself to. I got there on Wednesday and went to my hotel room. Got up Thursday, went straight to the minis hall and played minis games (mostly Battletech, but a couple of others) until midnight, then went back to my hotel room and slept, except for the night I went out drinking with friends. I went to the dealers hall 2 hours before the con closed, bought the things I wanted and a couple of impulse buys (Snapfighter Tactics), and left. Thanks to making reservations ahead of time and the new food stalls in the minis hall I don't think I ever even waited more than 5 minutes to get food.
I saw maybe 5 obvious trannies the whole time, none of them were within 50 feet of me, and nobody was cripplingly autistic or did severely cringey things any more than the inherent cringeness of actually playing games at a gaming convention instead of using that time to shitpost on a Madagascarian police appreciation forum. The presence or absence of the cringe types didn't affect my Gencon in the slightest.
I think your experiences may be unique to you, because I didn't have a single problem with Gencon the entire time. Well, ok, I had to wait in a long line to get a new room key when mine malfunctioned. But I wouldn't skip a Gencon for a problem like that.
>I will allow that whatever the frick went on with Disney is, in fact, cringe and terrible. But I wasn't anywhere near that, and anyone who WAS near it probably deserved it for trying to get in a line to buy Disney shit at Gencon
>I saw maybe 5 obvious trannies the whole time, none of them were within 50 feet of me, and nobody was cripplingly autistic or did severely cringey things any more than the inherent cringeness of actually playing games at a gaming convention instead of using that time to shitpost on a Madagascarian police appreciation forum. The presence or absence of the cringe types didn't affect my Gencon in the slightest.
Completely divorced from what I was talking about anon. Why are you so goddamn obsessed with the trannies?
Wait wtf happened with Disney at gencon besides the long line?
Some dude stole an entire pallet of their lorcana cards
>not wearing bandana's while thieving even when no one questions it
They deserve all that jail time they're getting.
Thanks Satan.
I despise collectible card games, and even I'm getting vicarious dopamine tingles from the thought of opening all those packs.
>opening
He's planning on scalping that shit.
This has to be one of the rare few cases when wearing a flu mask would actually be a reasonable thing to do.
Really surprised he didn't. Amateur mistake for what would have otherwise been an easy heist.
It wasn't Lorcana, it was regular retail product from an online seller.
Dude started the heist without equipping the mask, clearly cheating.
sounds like you need an eye exam, trannies were everywhere
I agree, you can absolutely avoid most of the bad parts by doing a little planning ahead and its not hard to have a good time at Gencon if you're not an antisocial moron. But it is absolutely lousy with some of the most obvious trannies I've ever seen
I've been going to anime cons for decades and they're better now than they've ever been.
Not AX that one sucks
But the ratio of people who are about to actually communicate and shower while still being diehard fans has gone through the roof. Especially this last two years, when all the people who spent 2020 by themselves at finally out and loose.
It's basically the same other than that. In around 2015 a bunch of dudebros discovered con raves and started going to them and so they really locked down on being drunk in public around then. Which is a shame because that was my favorite thing to do. It's still fine to just do in the room parties though.
>Be a young leaf
>Feel sad that the only mini cons in cucknadia seem to be unpopular smoll town conventions.
>Grow up.
>See a plague of normie consoomers flooding into the hobby in the last decade.
>Am now grateful that mini cons are held and attended by a handful of passionate locals in small towns away from le hustle&bustle
I'm still sad I never put in the time to go experience gencon when it was at it's best, but at least the alternatives still exist.
The way you write, sounds like you'd fit right in
I had fun the few times I went to GenCon, but it's a very expensive way to spend 4-5 days for the chance to shop in the dealer's hall (stuff that will almost all be available online anyways), pay way too much for food truck slop, and walk around a lot of very crowded convention halls and hotels.
You can have a great time, especially if you aggressively plan out your weekend and pick out a lot of great events. But you can still end up at tables with annoying homosexuals and GMs who signed up to run events just to get a free badge, while having no actual desire or ability to run a good game. You can also get the opposite and end up with a table full of bros who will run a 2 hour game that you might never forget, but it's a toss up, and if you're going by yourself, instead of travelling with friends, you'll be at the mercy of the sea of redditors you see in these pics.
Is dragoncon any better?
i frickin love dragoncon but i have a dedicated group of friends
I never been to a con, I even stopped playing irl due to my excessive shyness that became worse and worse as I grow older. Now I mostly play online.
How are cons? Are they really worth it? They always seem fun from outside but I been in this hobby more than 20 years, never had the courage to go there on my own.
I started going to cons a few years ago and love them and now I go to every single one in my area to run games. I am rather shy too but I think its much easier to get over that shyness when you know that everyone else at the convention with you is a fellow nerd that you will be able to hit it off with. I would not go to GenCon, this thread has convinced me that a crowd that massive will just be annoying to deal with, but smaller local conventions (500-1000 people) are comfy as frick.
Small cons are a lot of fun. Large cons have just grown to be too big, so it's nothing but a shopping event with ads. Comic-con SD is just hell now
comic cons, scifi cons, video game cons and anime cons are garbage, there are no activities, they're just big shopping malls. But Tabletop game cons are different. You're not there to just browse hundreds of vendors, although that is an option. You're there to actually play games and meet people, they're completely different from the other nerd cons and much more fun.
>this thread has convinced me
Stop letting idiots on the internet think for you
i didn't let idioits oin the internet think for me. I saw pictures of people crammed like sardines waiting in ridiculously long lines for god knows what and I'm not fricking wasting my valuable vacation time spending literal hours in a line to do anything and not able to sign up for games because theres 20k people all competing for what few games there are being ran.
I've been to a few cons. Worked GenCon back in 09.
They can be fun, but you really have to know what you want out of them. For me, it was getting to try nee games; getting demos of stuff there wasn't a scene for locally and seeing games/companies I had never heard of was super exciting to me.
For other people they go for the tournaments. I knew people who went to LVO on the regular for the 40K tournament they ran every year.
Some people go to get their hands on stuff early, or just wander the vendor hall.
Overall, though, I've always had fun at them. Don't let /tg/ fool you with carefully selected pictures and five second video clips while screeching about "normies" and shit. There were "normies" and furries and obese neckbeard weebs at GrnCon back when I went and that was15 fricking years ago.
So, figure it what you want out of it and see if there's one that catches your eye. Adepticon and GenCon are two of the bigger ones in the U.S.
What this anon says- but absolutely do not go without hand sanitizer, and don't handle everything. This isn't a joke or anything, the Con Crud is real and it's absolutely terrible.
Christ you only live once dude, just go to one and find out. Can't handle crowds? Have a nip of the ol' liquid courage before you leave the hotel room. Have some experiences before you die in your mom's basement. I say this as a formerly chronic shy kid.
I mean what are y'all expecting to see at a nerd convention? A bunch of attractive people in suits?
>y'all
NTA, but I’m in TX and I hear and say it every day as part of normal conversation.
>everyone is ugly and fat
okay maybe I will feel at home here ... after going to comiccon for the first time and seeing how it was literally filled with nothing but stacys and chads, I was apprehensive about going to big cons as they seemed co-opted by normies
I'm the opposite, being surrounded by my elk would make me die knowing normal people look at me how I look at them
From my last day at gencon!
The gangs all here
did you stay at the jw? how much was it?
I did not even see Warpin Johnny until you labeled him.
>depressed I didn’t go to gencon
>see this pic
>no longer depressed I missed gencon
Anon, thank you for making my day a little brighter
>20 top
>3$ tip
>ITT: Autists seething because they're too autistic to handle social situations
None of you are suited to playing TTRPGs, please go back to Ganker.
or maybe people don't like it because it's crowded as frick.
You're literally acting like the loser in the corner from the meme. That's you. Everyone else is having a great time, you're a pissbaby because ITS TOO CROWDED :(. The fact that's a complaint is proof you never leave your house.
You’re *literally* a homosexual with some next level projection
look at this horseshit. you wanna deal with 5 hours lines to do anything? frick that. this con looks lame. I bet theres 1 game being ran for every 100 people at any given time and you basically can't even play anything, and while you're not playing anything, you can't even visit vendor halls or panels because the place looks like this
and it takes 3 hours to get from one and of a room to the next. it looks fricking miserable.
I go to local con every year, it's like 10k people event, and I never had problem with waiting lines, I just cut, the nerds are usually too busy ogling cosplay thots to notice and even when they do notice don't have the balls to say anything.
>5 hours lines to do anything
Never happens. Even at worst, will call takes like 30 minutes, and then you have your badge. There's no lines for events or anything like that, because they have slots. You just walk in.
The hall is only that packed first thing in the morning when everyone is trying to get into the exhibit hall as soon as it opens. This is mostly because big sellers will show up with several pallets of their newest thing and sell one pallet per day to give everyone a chance to get it.
less games are being played in this image than /tg/...
GenCon is maybe the worst con for cosplayers. Not that people don't show up with some great costumes. There's usually a dozen full-sized space marines stomping around, but it just doesn't make sense for anyone to dress up when the dealer's hall is fricking packed the entire time and it's rude as frick to try and waddle through there in full costume and have people try to take pictures.
Back about 8 years ago Saturdays were the unofficial cosplayer day.
Yeah, they still do the parade on Saturday.
In my personal Gencon experience, the crowds are only really, really bad early in the morning when everyone wants to be in the dealers hall right away, which I've never understood because most of the time the shit you're after will be fine.
Beyond that, the crowds can be bad but never like, sardine levels. Granted, I've spent most of my times there in the game halls playing shit, rather than wandering around as such, and I've never tried to make any early events.
Depends. Do you count copper wiring and stolen tools as gold for xp?
Its the closest thing we have to treasure these days.
>Raiders and scavengers done picked through the ruins of Old Detroit long ago. Yer a century too late, son. They say that Lost Toronto is where the real adventure is now'days.
Disgusting
>anarcho-tyranny.
Literally an oxymoron.
Just say you're moronic next time.
>bottom of the barrel
These con-goers have money, double-Satan. They are entire worlds above LARPers.
I'm weird, autistic and antisocial but I'm still levels above the absolute bottom of the barrel of humankind that compose these cons. Fat greasy manchildren acting like moronic 9 year olds with no shame...
I wanted to get back into ttrpg recently, so I started trying to find players at my LGS. I was not prepared for the horror that awaited me. I'm not longer interested in the hobby. I'd rather just go back to reading the books. Thank you.
I am 24 and have manage to twist my mind to have wargaming and rpgs be a solo hobby
I'm probably going to do the same. It looks comfy.
>I started trying to find players at my LGS
Most people play in private groups for this exact reason. The game store is a gathering place for the friendless rejects.
I heard that the Hobonomicon after hours party was fun.
Off-topic but you got more OSR-esque meme images like this?
I would honestly go to a SF con for Dragonriders of Pern/Elf Quest/horny middle aged women nerds before going to gen-con.
I miss smaller cons, I miss people who would talk to you about their MUDs or MUSHs and then play a really cringey TTRPG like VTM or GURPS.
A lot of things look cringey to someone from the outside, but convention raves are super fun. It's nice to be around other nerds and cut loose. It's rather like how sports with other casual people in your skill range are fun(unlike getting stomped on gym class because the guys from the football team are in the same class as the theatre kids and the girl who survived cancer).
>I would honestly go to a SF con for Dragonriders of Pern/Elf Quest/horny middle aged women nerds before going to gen-con.
My bro found his wife at such a con. She's too old to have kids but she's the nicest girlfriend he's ever had. Has a great career too and just outright bought this house overlooking a lake for them to live in.
A gathering of nerds is a gathering of nerds? OP, nothing has changed. This was an insufferable crowd 20 years ago, and it's an insufferable crowd now.
My wife has been wanting to go for a while and we actually live "in" Indy but gencon still has mandatory vax reqs so we can't go.
I genuinely don't know of anywhere else that still asks for that.
Like others have been saying, go to smaller cons. I don't really see any reason to go to Gencon unless you really want something that's being pre-released there.
PS: You guys did the right thing.
They didn't have one this year hence the record numbers. But them being morons and no planning well for 20k more people than last year was just as bad.
Well shit, I guess she heard wrong then. I'll let her know we can try planning for next year.
I'd prefer smaller cons but there are a few things at gencon specifically she wants to go for.
I honestly hate cons but I'll suck it for a minute to make my autist woman happy.
Lmao scardy fans afraid of needles
I have really appreciated this thread and all its contribooters for the reports. I went to Gen Con in early 2000's and really have been wanting to go back. I am completely cured of that now - thanks.
I miss gencon only for the sagmore ballroom. For all Paizo's shortcomings the end of season multi table interactive are the funnest events I had gaming. But I won't wade back into that shit. When the marketing company took over gencon it changed.
Honorable mention to the iron GM games as well. My 2nd favorite event.
>When the marketing company took over gencon it changed.
Suits need to be kept out of gaming. This should be apparent to all gamers at this point.
You can always choose to not game with "normies"/"neckbeards" or "SJWs"/"Chuds" but if greedy sacks of shit who don't even play are running the show it destroys the entire community.
It baffles me no one has edited her face into looking like a sow.
I don't think she needs any editing to look like a sow
>You can always choose to not game with "normies"/"neckbeards" or "SJWs"/"Chuds" but if greedy sacks of shit who don't even play are running the show it destroys the entire community.
This. If you were a man I'd suck your dick for saying this, because it's true. And, hey- haven't you ever noticed when corporate slimeballs take over and start cutting corners and shitting up the product, they do a really good job of making sure we're all bickering about 'woke/based' instead of focusing on the source of the problem?
>You can ignore a picture of a Black person elf or two homosexual dwarves kissing, but shitty game mechanics are a bit harder to deal with
>both-sides equal haha
>pretends deeply connected issues are separate
Boring.
No, whatever side I'm on is objectively superior to all others, Black person.
This. I don't remember who it was that said this, some tech industry bigwig, and I'm paraphrasing, but you should never ever let bean counters become your CEO or hold any important position in your company whatsoever. If you do that, your company's whole business plan becomes counting beans, and instead of products you're just producing receipts.
Was it Mercedes? I think it was Mercedes talking about their engineers. Their engineers used to run the company, not the money-men.
>iron GM
One year I got DMed by the guy that won. Shit was awesome.
Jesus frick you're all so fricking whiney. Maybe your weird sub culture deserves to die if the response to any strangers taking an interest is 'le reddit/Tumblr scum is within 200 feet of me, I must shit my pants and use the smell to reclaim my gaming clay' frick sake you're all fricking children.
Our 'weird subculture' was perfectly fine until we showed 'tolerance' and let tourists like you into it, then it turned into absolute garbage. Swine like you are the reason it's 'become more popular'... at the expense of it becoming some homogenized corporate lifestyle-brand sludge.
Considering the number of fantasy Heartbreakers out there and shitty D20 splats when wotc made the OGL, you were doing it to yourselves. Face it, you're just pissing yourself because no one's holding you wiener garblers on a pedestal as the true kings of gaming or some other self fellating bullshit. RPGs have always been commercial enterprises, right down to gygax, this myth that your shitty sub cul was pure is cope for the fact it isn't your shitty Conan rip off isn't the one making money
So what I'm hearing from you is that nothing is worthwhile until it gets turned into some corporate sludge.
Frick's sake, I love the fact that you homosexuals are always temporary in whatever you stick to. Even the sloppiest, most disgusting neckbeard has more value to the tabletop than you Funko-pop sucking swine.
Nah, I'm just saying you're a delusional frickface who can't recognize that it's always been about making money, you're just too naive to realize it. Blinded by your own delusions. Besides did it ever occur to you the reason they weren't popular back then was because they weren't that good? It took Wotc and corporate to make your shitty games actually playable an appealing to anyone that doesn't live in their mothers basement like you. Free market right? Good ideas rise to the top and become accepted.
>that it's always been about making money
There is a stage where people only want to make enough money to live whilst doing what they love. Games workshop for example was selling white dwarf and writing DnD supplements to yes, make money but also because they loved doing it and making money doing what they love is ideal. Then they began making minis to play their supplements with, and people liked them. Then they expressed their love for the hobby by making a wargame book with rules and and a story to play with their miniatures.
The company was growing, and they were able to expand to more than one store, and could make sci fi models inspired by their favourite cult comics and movies.
And at this point they were making a lot of money, and doing it for money rather than love took the forefront. But that doesn't mean it was always only about money.
b***h they made the wargame cause they lost the licensing rights to call their sci fi shit the names from the IPs they ripped off. Shit was to make more bank and save money on the molds. They took your dreams and sold them back to you like the paypiggy you are.
Bro you skipped the early stages of gw. When they made a fanzine, when they wrote supplements for DnD. When they got the rights to sell DnD in England. Then they opened up their first store, and then produced models for DnD and other rpgs. Etc.etc.
If you are only after money you don't go for "writing 500 page wargame rulebook in 1980s"
They obviously were passionate for what they did, and making money with your passion is the ideal existence in the 20th century. What happened next for the sake of money is for the sake of money.
But that's not how you start.
>Free market right?
The free market is largely fake and gay. It's certainly not an axiomatic good. DnD also peaked in the early 80s.
No, you are not, you silly homosexual. Things did not get 'better', they got more accessible. You know, *for the handicapped*. You are a tourist, undeniably. You wouldn't have been welcomed at our tables- and let's face it:
The only reason you're here is because of us. Not the game. US. So you can interfere with what we have, and once it's ruined- you'll drift away to make others miserable.
No, the games weren't 'unplayable', and your corporate masters didn't improve anything- they just marketed the frick out of it, lowered the competency threshold- and now any idiot that can barely read at a fourth grade level can do the D&D.
By your logic, if I lower the standards for military enlistment- and more people join, I 'improved' the military.
Quality over quantity. And you, and those like you, are not quality. You are temporary, an infestation that is tolerated because we all know you'll drift away when you're not welcome.
Ntayrt, but nerds have always disproportionately been fat, gay, otherwise sexually deviant, and even politically left wing relative to the gen pop. Star Trek cons were one of the main places cp got swapped pre-internet, many classic SF writers were NAMBLA adjacent. What's happened is that these already extant, and frankly dominant aspects of nerddom have swelled past your personal level of disgust tolerance.
So what you're saying is all the pedophiles and sexual predators that knew to keep their heads down before, now see no reason to hide what they are in the new era when they're around like-minded persons?
I cannot argue with this.
A lot of nerds are buttholes. The Liz Lemon highschool reunion episode rings very true.
WotC DnD has been catering to buttholes outside of the classic SF and Fantasy fandom, however.
Nah, at this rate DnD is gonna really be the only tabletop game anyone needs. Have you seen the numbers, even if it dies tabletop games have been normalized the same way videogames have. And much like videogames they actually have value now. People can actually play these games instead of having to deal with the creepy nerds that sit in the back of gaming shop who'll jump on them for not being able to name both continents where Vecna's individual testicles were hidden. Fact is you're not a stalwart fricking champion or whatever shit you imagine. You're the tumor that was keeping DnD from being what Gygax intended.
But when you try to go to the store and find a DnD group now there is a guaranteed troony who will make sexual advances at every chance, a morbidly obese man with dyed colourful hair who hasn't showered in a month, a severely autistic and stuttery b***h who takes 10 minutes on a turn and an "overly" charismatic dude who talks like a victorian aristocrat who thinks he is the best GM in the world because he hides dice rolls and let's the bard seduce every npc (played by the troony)
If you can't google where vecna's individual testes were impregnated unto the earth you don't deserve to sit at the same table as me. Enjoy normies applying their proficiency bonus to damage and sneak attacking on a barbarian.
ever heard of cnauir or karsa or CONAN?
Wrong. I don't know what Gygax intended. In fact, what Gygax actually did on his own is rather questionable. You see, I don't know and nor do I care. You know why?
You were the exact kind of thing we all were getting away from when we played. When we had fun, it was more fun because you weren't invited. And you weren't invited because no matter how 'pathetic' we were? You were magnitudes more unlikable than we were. And for decades it burned your ass that even us lowly nerds refused to humor your antics.
And then we made the mistake of trying to be accepting, and rest assured- we will not make that same mistake again.
Have you noticed we're still not playing with you, and all you can do is crane your head and say "What are they doing?" as you lick your slimy lips and see one more thing you can move into to get payback, because we made you feel beneath us.
And we should have never stopped.
>We didn't gatekeep hard enough
This shit will never not be funny.
What's the strategy? Stand outside of game shops and wait for blue-hairs so you can scare them away? Is that going to be your day job now?
How do you possibly imagine stopping people from buying books on Amazon? How are you going to stop "tourists" from running games in their homes? How are you going to personally stop people making TTRPGs that are "too woke" for you?
Communists play D&D, fascists play D&D, prison inmates play D&D. You gonna build an internet task force to stop these people by sending strongly worded emails?
It's the Current Year homie, you can buy a physical copy of Basic Fantasy, it's expansion books, a bag of a dozen dice, papers and pencils for under $50 on Amazon. How do you gatekeep that?
>How do you gatekeep that?
The same way those people should have always been dealt with.
You're not man enough to do it.
Don't do it anon, you have so much to live for.
does he though? do any of us do? rule of thumb being Gankerners being guys, and since We Live In A Society, there is no future for men that doesn't end with us in a shallow grave, a 5'x5'x'5 prison cell or being financially exsanguinated by vampiric femoids and similarly vampiric government agencies that will eventually put us in the previously mentioned shallow grave or prison cell.
So which is it anon? death, eternal imprisonment or financial exsanguination leading to the previously mentioned end-state?
> Gatekeeping is funny because they can still buy!
Hey, dumbass, attitude towards newcomers influence if they stick with it or not. Can't you even imagine shit as simple that? Fricking moron.
So you're going to personally go find every person who's running a game and give them attitude?
It's not the fricking middle ages, 99% of people in western counties are literate. If you can read a book you can run a game of D&D. This isn't some samurai bushido bullshit that has to be passed down or it stops existing, you LITERALLY can buy the D&D starter pack on Amazon.com or at an LGS and just start running games with friends, there's actually nothing stopping that from happening.
Just because you're personally rude doesn't magically stop people from playing, it just stops them from playing with you. Just because some people don't personally play tabletop games with you doesn't mean they magically stop existing. You're literally delusional if you think otherwise, other people exist, how the frick do you expect to gatekeep literally everyone else? Are you going to coordinate with every GM in the entire world and demand they conform to your attitude towards newcomers? Good luck with that.
>you LITERALLY can buy the D&D starter pack on Amazon.com or at an LGS and just start running games with friends, there's actually nothing stopping that from happening.
There should be. Normies don't deserve to play our games.
You gatekeep with complexity. I don't play rules lite shit and therefore I never have to deal with trannies. Its that simple. Is it harder to find games? Certainly compared to something like 5e, but the quality of the average player is so much higher that its well worth it.
>You gatekeep with complexity.
NTA but that's almost as dumb. If that was true, MTG and 40k would have fantastic playerbases. The way to do it is keeping out anyone that has little regard for, say, a system or hobbying despite insisting on becoming invested enough to play consistently.
Neither of those games are complex man.
40k is perhaps the simplest thing calling itself a wargame.
And magic? Seriously?
Are you lying or honestly mentally infirm?
Like 5e, their core rule sets are simple although inflexible, but the moving pieces and special rules on top of them make them very bloated. It's false simplicity, meant with the purpose of scooping the "lowest common denominator" to sunk cost them with mandatory additional rules and constant balance changes. 8th and 9th edition 40k had this problem, and it is likely to repeat with 10th. You can't tell me with a straight face MTG doesn't have a similar issue.
bloat is not the same as complexity. 40k (and a lot of gw games historically) have huge amounts of bloat, but remain very simple games aimed primarily at very simple people.
>bloat is not the same as complexity.
You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Complexity isn't inherently a good thing, but not all complicated things are bloated, even if bloat is inherently complicated.
>very simple games
See above.
>aimed primarily at very simple people.
That I agree with.
they're distinct things. you want an apples to apples comparison, here. 40k is bloated and simplistic. ASL is bloated and complex. both bloated, but they attract different types of players. which one, in your experience, has a chiller playerbase?
I'd bet a week's wage you trot out something else with fake complexity that rewards time invested more than actual intelligence.
>I'd bet a week's wage you trot out something else with fake complexity that rewards time invested more than actual intelligence.
Is that so? Maybe we should see which games you consider to be an example of having what you define to be real complexity. ASL has better players because it can simulate historical games. Bolt Action is as much of a historical game as Inglorious Bastards is a historical film. Sorry I accidentally responded to one of my own posts instead of yours by the way.
MTG and 40k are ultra simple, dummyproof versions of their respective hobbies aimed at exploiting the lowest common denominator. they're gateway games that most players grow out of reasonably quickly. but for those that don't or can't, they literally are the filter that keeps undesirables out of better parts of /tg/.
like you want gatekeeping, that's it, those two and D&D. if you're still playing them and you're old enough to know better, then I've got some bad news - you're one of the people the gate was being kept against. the fact that you're surprised a filter gets gunked up with trash over time just reinforces that.
the games that are more complex, in very broad terms, DO have fantastic playerbases. mtg and 40k aren't that.
get a little older and branch out in your chosen sub-hobby a bit and you'll see what I mean.
>the games that are more complex, in very broad terms, DO have fantastic playerbases.
I could think of several games that indicate otherwise.
Impossible to gatekeep when the company who makes the product someone is presuming they have the ability to defend, is actively trying to get all of those undesirables inside their gate as fast as possible with the explicit intent to turn them into life-long paypig customers.
>with the explicit intent to turn them into life-long paypig customers.
And why do you hate capitalism, exactly? Anything short of this is socialism, and you aren't a frickin commie, right?
Please stop being a giant moronic homosexual. We've got too much of that already. Blind brand loyalty allows for bad business practices to slide. WotC should have had it's offices torched years ago, but the paypig conditioning has allowed them to continually become more and more complacent and lazy with the products and services they offer, because instead of cultivating a good business with sustainable practices, they have instead aimed for the cult business model where they expect everyone to just consume product and then get excited for next product.
>Meanwhile growing up we had trans women dressing up as their characters and at least putting some goddamn effort into it.
You mean you had men putting effort into wearing a woman costume. Declaring yourself to be "trans X" has no actual value and is based entirely on a flimsy concept of subjective self perception (utterly unimportant) and/or adherence to a bizarro world interpretation of 1950's sexual stereotypes.
Anyway, here's a fine example of how transracial people have always been a part of films and entertainment, especially in board games where people dress up as a variety of races. Just fyi, this man is of course fully entitled to say the full array of words that begin with N. Trans rights are human rights, so you say.
I went on sunday, the group of people there was dysgenic as hell but I was able to try a few new games and get a few games I wanted.
Origins wasn't like this.
Origins is fricking dead because the new owners are fricking idiots. Octupling booth costs because not enough vendors were coming? Insane.
What about Dragoncon? That always seemed to be the con to go to if you wanted to smoke a bowl in your room and hook up with a 40 year old dressed like a tavern wench.
Isn't that the one where the money goes to an actual convicted pedophile?
No, that's Palladium, and they don't run conventions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_E._Kramer
>Edward Eliot Kramer (born March 20, 1961) is an American editor and convicted child molester.
Lmao right for the throat in the first sentence. It does say that he cashed out of all dragoncon ownership 10 years ago, though.
>mfw due to that and Zimmer Bradley's daughter I found out that most of old convention SF/F authors from Berkley / Cali were either pedos like Breen, Zimmer Bradley, Kramer, Asimov and Clarke or pedo associates & overt defenders of the former despite multiple convictions including McCaffrey & Ellison and how pretty much anyone who ran in those circles in the 60s through 00s is incredibly suspect
Kind of depressing but then I realized I don't really care about any of them or their books and all my favorite authors weren't convention cliquesters.
The only one I even have any nostalgia for were the Eddings, which I already realized weren't great authors, who turned out to have been convicted for very severe physical abuse of kids they adopted in 1970. (keeping them in actual cages, malnourishing them and beating them with leather straps)
Glad there's nothing on Jack Vance, Fritz Leiber, REH or any of the really old superb fantasy authors.
Basically you should assume that any male who had any importance, power, or influence, over other people from the dawn of human civilization, up until yesterday, have been pedos. That way you won't be disappointed when you find out they actually are.
Because they all are. Every time.
Nah i'll just stick to the facts and healthy skepticism towards people who my pattern recognition tells me deserve it in the future.
what am i supposed to hate in your stamp size pixelated gif?
Everything. Those people are having fun and playing games, and you should hate them for it.
Lmao I'll never forget peaking over at my classmate's screen in sixth-form and seeing "What to do if you're pregnant" on the screen.
>pic
Oh shit, I've been raw-dogging my gf and finishing in her ass for like 3 years now ...
I guess we've been lucky. I'll look into getting some condoms
>lucky
More likely one of you has broken gear.
Do they still have the BIPOC only section?
I like Gencon, and I enjoy the dance. Sorry you hate fun.
I've gone to GenCon the past 14 years consecutively now.
I used to have some fun there, playing games, meeting people. Ever since about 2014-2015, I've actually been working in the industry, and so my motivation to attend is now totally business-oriented. Scouting things, networking, purchasing supplies at reduced rates, etc.
But every time, I still have *SOME* free time over the 5 days, and I branch out, because why not? And every time, for the past 7-8 years, it's goddamned fricking insufferable. Literally every worst part of the tabletop community is present from money-hungry big corporate advertisers who make WotC-themed ice cream that has nothing to do with actual gaming, to rural indie-dev know-nothings who think this is their big break but their product is niche dogshit that nobody wants to even look at. From inbred weaboos who think selling modern-popular bishounen anime T-shirts is somehow the same category of thing as designing a board game, to juggernauts of the industry who haven't changed their methods for decades and exist only based on name recognition and because they fricking GOUGE their customers, like GW, who sell you their normally produced game-store boxes at the Con, but charge you shipping as well, because the boxes had to be shipped to the Con, and they just pass the cost directly onto the consumer.
And it's all fricking sickening. For every cool idea you see from a passionate developer, you see two furry butt-plug or "mug of dice" stores. For every artist with a unique style, who you may recognize from old MTG cards or something, you see two trans-colored saturated metal-plate posters depicting housecats with a QR-code that links to the part where they were featured on Critical Role.
If you think these examples seem too specific to be made up, that's correct.
And all that is not even the worst part. All *that* is the exhibitors, the people working there, who at bare minimum at least all share the goal of pushing their product to make money. Whether it's a good product or not, or it's ruining the hobby or not, they at least have a REASON to be there.
It's the fricking fans, the nerds, the "GenCon attendees" that are the malignant tumor of the whole event. Fat, ugly, entitled, they DRIP with developmental disabilities that make social interactions horrific. Through some combination of a total lack of awareness of what's socially acceptable AND a misplaced and disgusting arrogant pride that what they do somehow *is* socially acceptable within this context, they are constantly and effortlessly annoying.
It brings out the absolute worst in these stupid fricking nerds. Ahegao t-shirts with a ballcap that reads, 'ADHD is my superpower,' stand next to literal fursuit wearing shitheels, stand next to a family with two young children who are clearly being forced by their parents to accept and be impressed by the first two. When the child walks up to hug the fursuit wearer, because that's their instinct to do with something that appears to be a stuffed animal, and you can see the fur fetishist's erection, you almost feel bad, until you see that the children are returning to their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement around these intensely crowded halls full of fat fricks, and instead of that bad feeling, you just feel fricking nothing. A dread malaise of soft hate, not enough to motivate you to really do anything about it, but enough to ensure that you find no fulfillment or enjoyment from anything you're involved in here.
Hotels post warnings on their elevators that limit them to 6 people each, in spite of plaques inside stating the limit is 10, and broken elevators/escalators are a common problem across the city. Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor, in spite of the convention center staff always diligently trying to clean. Every trash can is filled to the fricking brim at almost all times with leftover fast-food from the ARMY of food trucks they bring in from all corners of the county, that these fat fricks pay $20 per meal for and then throw half of away. (No shade to the actual food trucks. Some of those people have a good product and really care about their food. It's a shame how the attendees treat them as glorified vending machines with all their fricking special orders because of their various food allergies and intolerances) Someone I know had to be let out of a stuck elevator by the fire department, and they were later than expected because they were busy getting someone else unstuck from a porto-let. They cancelled the Saturday night mixer because some fat moron attempted a break-dance move and almost broke his neck, so paramedics were called. A pair of morons stole a pallet of Disney-themed gaming cards (a fricking scam) which were valued at $300,000 (also a fricking lie) and didn't even bother to hide their identities. Restaurants and little pop-ups all around town hire seasonal employees to run them through the ringer with all these fricking entitled nerds and their 'special orders,' and I never went to a single place in 2023 that didn't have SOMETHING broken or missing, like one of their beer taps or one of their coffee grinders, or a bathroom out of order, etc. ad nauseum.
Insufferable, miserable, awful people. The absolute worst. Would rather spend time with a low-level hood gang, or a Mormon youth group, or any number of other awful societies. The same city hosts the Indy 500 or, rarely, the Super Bowl (or just other important football games at Lucas Oil), and those tens or hundreds of thousands of Bud-Light-enhanced Indiana redneck pieces of shit are STILL not as awful to have around than these fricking 4/10 body-positive cosplayers, weaboo urban-backpack wearing neckbeard consoomers, a vast ocean of trans hambeast gargoyles, and the gargantuan roiling staph-infected masses who think watching Vox Machina means they're 'part of the hobby.'
Misery. Suffering. Pain. Hate.
And I'm already making plans to go back next year. The hobby and community is dead to me everywhere it takes place outside my own room; this has become just a dead-end job, and has been for years now. I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
>Every public restroom reeks so unbearably and has a constantly dirty floor
I could suddenly smell the bathrooms at Gencon 2001 again as I read this. Absolutely vile. I think walking around the con and going up the stairs/escalators was more core exercise than the neckbeards got all year and dislodged months of backed up poo.
I always insist on getting a hotel room room connected to the convention center for this reason. I want to be able to easily retreat back to my room to shit(or drop off merch I've bought, nap, etc).
WHOA, CAN YOU BELIEVE A BATHROOM USED BY 50,000 PEOPLE MIGHT SMELL LIKE A BATHROOM? MIND HECKIN BLOWN.
I don't know what Genoa was like, but I've been to Indy twice and the bathrooms were fine.
I'll play a board game with you at the next Gen con anon 🙂
>their wagon (not a stroller, a wagon) full of toys and snacks that their parents somehow failed to notice is a huge fricking impediment to movement
I've seen that. Or at least I've seen when it's a garden wagon. Honestly I dont think it's bad because kids always want to bring their toys to things and then you have nappy and other stuff. Some kids are runners so putting them in a box is better than having them run off delighting in their parents panic as they try to dive in bushes or around corners. It's probably like being in a little boat for them.
Fatties can step aside. Putting the toddler in a wagon is better for everyone than letting the brat on a leash or carriage. Little goblins figure out the straps at that age.
Children shouldn't be allowed in conventions at all. These are games intended for adults, and the little shits have no place there and they aren't wanted.
>NTRPGCon
Children and old people. Looks like a shit convention to skip forever.
>Looks like a shit convention to skip forever.
That's all of them.
Maybe you should just have a nice day.
Maybe you shouldn't have got stuck in the elevator.
You must be the one stuck in the port-o-let.
I posted a meme in response to a dude who posted four pages of complaining about FRICKING NERDS PLAYING BOARD GAMES, and you all piss and shit and cum, and I'm the one that's upset? Oh the ironing.
Please share more of your frustration oh based anon. For real.
>I push the immensely oversized and expensive rare-mineral d20 up the hillside for eternity as punishment for the hubris of trying to make a career out of what should have remained a hobby.
You sound like a homosexual who's trying to hard to tick as many "things Ganker doesn't like" checkboxes.
>They hated Anon because he told them the truth
Those who don't understand how unbearably real these posts are will never understand, because they are part of the problem.
Wow, the times and tribulations of a retail wagie at a trade show.
How insightful, how poignant. Who else could tell us that they hate every other human being on the planet and bemoan how tabletop gaming is overpriced?
You sound personally insulted.
>Am I out of touch?
>No, it's the people having fun playing /tg/ that are wrong!
Are you having fun? You don't sound like you're having fun, you sound incredibly upset.
Invoking "Fun" does not refute anything that dude said.
>conventions aren't supposed to be fun, they're about... I don't know, gatekeeping and racism and stuff
Desperate. You could have just walked away, but you insist on coming back to make an ass of yourself.
cope
You sound awfully agitated for someone so sure that he had "fun."
Not really doing anything to prove him wrong, y'know. Just affirming the point.
This is so fricking powerful of a post holy shit.
As a rural know-nothing dev who makes RPGs based on dogshit niches I take some offense that my RPGs are niche, dogshit, and dont sell for shit. My shit is above par quality!
nice hotel, i give it a 8/10
Did anyone else meet the Doomroll guy? This dude was demoing a game he was "making" and telling me his game was going to take on 40k. It was going to be a mini agnostic game with barebones gameplay for ease of entry and fast play and he did all the art, lore, and rules using AI. he looked so hopeful about this thing taking off and being a 40k competitor I just did not have the heart to tell him this was a crackpot idea.
He's fricking delusional.
Good on him for showing up and doing the dance, but shame on him for being a lazy deluded frickwit.
the only thing gw fears is the 3d printing chad
There's a certain kind of homosexual who can unironically believe in their own scam idea with 100% certainty and confidence and a specific kind of brainless moron who is susceptible to being infected with that kind of confidence. You see them most often with cryptobros and NFTgays. Unsurprised that the guy was an AI zealot, since those same kind of overconfident morons are instinctually attracted to anything that seemingly promises massive returns at minimum investment.
hey, it almost, almost worked for Hawk Dave. had circumstances been slightly different who knows where we'd be.
Dropzone, a 40k killer? It's fun, but in no timeline could I see it happening.
Nah, not a 40k killer. nothing that quality will ever be appreciated by the masses. But he did "make it" for a short while. he was basically a one-man operation those first couple years, and he put out a game - a complete game, rules, minis, terrain, fluff, the whole package - that shamed the competition on every metric. it's a hell of a thing, maybe *almost* impossible, but not quite. not quite.
Holy shit, a lot of GenCon freaks are coming out of the wood works in this thread to b***h about the based employee anon. kek
>one dickhead is literally the guy smoking while pumping gas meme
>49,999 other people at gencon had a good time because they aren't absolute c**ts
>Implying the vast majority of GenCon attendees aren't dickheads
I go every year, I go to tons of events every year. Maybe 10% of people are the type he's complaining about, which is still better odds than the general population. Most people at gencon are nice, polite, a and there for a good time. But please, continue to post anime faces. It definitely doesn't reek of seething.
>I post every day, I go to tons of subreddits every day. Maybe 10% of people are the type he's complaining about, which is still better odds than the general population. Most people on reddit are nice, polite, a and there for a good time. But please, continue to post anime faces. It definitely doesn't reek of seething.
I understand his frustrations completely (I was a fast food GM for five years) but being a joyless, miserable c**t isn’t any more respectable than being an oblivious, blue-haired dickhead.
The best year I've ever had at Gencon was a year or so ago where the restrictions for Covid had just been lifted and the capacity was at around half the norm. You could fricking walk around and hold your arms out without scraping the grease off the moron next to you. The only downside was the GW booth not having Black Library stuff.
I went to that one too. While the extra breathing room was nice, they had 1/3rd as many events, their overall planning and use of space was much worse, and there wasn't a lot to do because all the groups running the mini paint-and-take or GM on demand, or any of the smaller activities refused to show up. It was not the kind of con you expect for the price they make you pay just to attend.
I had a lot of fun that year too. I got every event I wanted and I was busy all weekend. Shit was great.
>The only downside was the GW booth not having Black Library stuff.
I'd say that's a good thing. Chris Wraight is the only competent writer BL has.
I don't care about competency I just want more IG fluff novels and maybe some hardcovers of Gaunt's Ghosts
the "trick" at cons is to just do the one thing 99% of the shitty people would never consider - play games the whole time. you'll hardly have to deal with any of them.
plan your weekend right and you can get in 3 or 4 tournaments and 20+ pickup games pretty easily.
>live in indy, always meant to go to gencon
>always manage to miss it by a couple days since I don’t get newspapers anymore and their local advertising is dogshit
>everyone in this thread saying "I'm not like THOSE nerds"
Tongue my anus troony mod
I'd take NTRPGCon over Gencon pretty much any day of the week.
>NTR (pg) con
Do you have to leave your girlfriend at home, or what?