Summary: A new Bain survey of 25 gaming execs globally predicts generative AI will grow from <5% of game dev now to 50%+ in 5-10 years. Most believe it will enhance quality and speed, but not reduce costs or talent needs much.
AI could free up developer time for higher-value creative work in storytelling and interactivity.- Integration and IP challenges.
Link:https://www.bain.com/insights/how-will-generative-ai-change-the-video-game-industry/
What are Ganker's thoughts?
Will AI further streamlining and democratizing gamedev give rise to better games or worse?
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>streamlining and democratizing
I think the majority of people here will agree that neither of those things have been good for games.
Okay then
What?
It does not mean what you think it means.
So games won't come out faster and require less people to make?
Good morning sirs, buy my ai art craishin, do the needful.
AI video is coming along steadily.
>rotoscoping but shit
>He says while posting an edited reddit frog image
He basically took a video and hit GO and created those in a couple of minutes dude. This is fricking immense for professional work. This is still a bit janky but in a couple of months anime and film studios will be seriously eyeing it up.
So the same excuse as normal art;
>Its absolute dogshit
>"Yea but i can crap 10000 in one second"
Sounds like diarrhea tech
moron
This is why I don't get people wanking off A.I.
Why should I give two fricks about it being able to fire off low quality shite at a rapid rate? How does this benefit the consumer in anyway? Only the fricking suits should care about this.
I just expected you to have some foresight. This is a bleeding edge technological achievement, it's going to improve.
Your ideas are pure fantasy though aren't they? You expect to be able to press a button and have an instant Grade A game tailored exactly for you come out. You're dumb as frick and know nothing of the technology.
Not at all. Like look here https://youtu.be/_9LX9HSQkWo?si=RMbz2cv2ySYQqRE4
6 months ago this was pretty crazy and now you just click a button and you cut out most of the work they did. This stuff progresses fast and there have been tech demos for everything video game related, so there just needs further development on all the aspects and to combine them and then we'll have that thing you ignorantly presume is impossible to have.
The example previously posted looks even worse than this. Just look at all the garbage in the background and all the clothing slowly morphing. Not sure it's the best look for 6 months of progress.
It was done in a minute by one dude opposed to months of work by a team. Do you get it now?
No I don't, because then we go back to
>it'll get better
Why would it? People like you would eat it up in it's current state and it's much cheaper to get shittier results than good ones.
Also, saying it took him "a minute" is disingenuous when he's using pre-existing footage. The whole thing's a glorified filter.
>Why would it?
Because it just did, how did you forget how flickery it was until recently? And now you can make videos as long as you want.
People jerking off AI art have no idea what people like about art, and are intensely autistic.
People like AI art and art
Everyone into this AI shit is a complete autist who sees no value in art and human accomplishment. Or a greedy suit.
The games will still cost the same to buy, the only ones who will benefit are the executives.
If it's not immediately obvious to you, you are a hopeless autistic nerd.
You don't have any real opinions, you're just an overly emotional npc parroting what your masters have told you to.
The truth is that anti-ai morons want to gatekeep art using "the human soul" or the "human creative process" or even "intelectual property" (regarding how ais are trained) as an excuse.
The reality is that modern art has been shit for more than 50 years and they are doing it to preserve their economic gigs or have parts of the market hostage.
You are no different than workers wanting to destroy machinery to avoid being replaced by said machine.
This is not a problem in itself.
The problem is that artBlack folk are acting as footsoldiers of corporate interests that want to have a monopoly on ai, wich actually is a monopoly on computation power.
In other words artBlack person morons could frick us all in their crusade to live from drawing digital furry futa fanarts.
Kill artists whemever you see them as an act of self defense.
https://twitter.com/Yokohara_h/status/1705981094473183699
>not even rotoscoping but shit
That one isn't based on a video.
no wonder it has no temporal coherency
This is amazing.
AI is truly growing at an exponential rate.
Can't wait to use it in my game.
okay but honestly though. will we reach a point soon where the graphics will be generated by ai on the spot and thus we won't actually need to render the game the way we do right now?
Nvidia just said that will come eventually.
Those are heavily edited, completely disingenuous to pretend that it was just 1 click and done
No, they aren't. Literally 1 click after he set up the prompts.
Im going to go try it out right now, and im 100% telling you, its going to come out shit, just give me a second
https://twitter.com/bk_sakurai/status/1705882978189254969
why the frick does colab prevent me from using this
idk about ai art, unless it's for animation/retopology
give me ai code!
Im sorry but that looks like shit.
If AI can emulate the painstaking Redline artstyle, then I'll be a happy man.
It will be ad infested or monetized so good luck using AI for anything in the future
>AI ironically improves AAA games' quality
>everybody laughs at the devs because literal bots make better games than them
>AAA devs seethe because any moron with a beefy computer can generate AAA-quality games
This is why I don't understand people hating on AI. It's just a multiplier of human potential.
The problem with AI is less the output itself and more that it absolves people from the responsibility of making a choice/creating.
I don't see how. If you don't like the output you keep going until you do.
What do you mean?
Why should I care what other people generate, when I could just type stuff into a prompt and generate stuff myself?
This. Can't take whatever art form it is seriously and be passionate about the final result. I don't care how good it looks. Knowing talented people made something great is allows others to be proud of it. Just because it's impressive tech, doesn't mean it leaves me to be impressed.
>great is allows others
Can you explain why you aren't proud of people who made and use impressive tech? What's with the double standard?
>Can you explain why a low IQ using a calculator to solve a college-level math equation is not impressive? They're practically geniuses.
Oh and don't forget to thank Texas Instruments for inventions made by all the mechanical engineers.
do you think college level math equations are like: what is 423453 * 849302 / 3556543?
>morons not involved in dev process claim cost saving measure will be widely adopted
wooooooooooooooooow
Bain?
AAAslop already looks like its entirely AI-generated, nothing will change
So maybe toby will finish deltarune before 2030?
High budget game design has gone to shit so hard that I honestly doubt an AI can't do better at this point
I've seem some japanese artists do cool stuff with ai textures and 3d models. Like here they used it to texture this scene to have an anime town look.
wow that's amazing, they can make more cinematics to watch so easily
Would really help in stuff like this:
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Big action fight but all the buildings during the sequence are basically flat color because they didn't have the time/resources to paint the backgrounds.
the more you look at it, the more fricked up it gets.
As with all AI art. the thought of playing a game longer than 30 minutes and seeing this gruesome shit is so depressing.
>ERM...... YEAH, THIS ISN'T PERFECT NOW SO THAT MEANS IT WILL NEVER IMPROVE EVER. AI IS OVER, INCELS. YOU LOSE.
goodness gracious you need help
Translation: the publishers' profit margins are about to go way up because they need to pay less people to make the games. Nothing changes for the consumers.
No you idiot! Game devs and publishers are about to collapse into nonexistence!
Because any average chum like me, will have 0 reason to buy their slop! Or any game! I could just download an AI, tell it to shit out fourty soulsborne games, and be busy playing those for the next decade.
i bet big budget devs already have AI for generating all these shitty modern remasters and remakes.
hurry up computer nerds! I want to generate my own games with blackjack and hookers.
you would need new engines that have some AI integrated to do stuff or else its BS since there is barely use of AI for game developing unless your talking about art assets
the first company that launches a good AI integrated engine for game developing with make billions
Blizzard and Ubisoft have publicly announced AI stuff. EA has been using it for years.
but what they actually announced? Having a game engine that has integrated AI or just using AI for assets in the game, those are different things.
google it
cute dog
*boop*
>are you a grass
This will all amount to nothing except AI generated rock and metal textures
I bet there will be a ton of ai designed levels. randomly generate some hallways and rooms and staircases. seems easy enough
This Gaming YouTube channel is entirely run by AI:
https://youtube.com/@kwebbelkop?si=2i_3zDoE2VBXG_VR
(Before you say something the most recent video is AI generated too).
We're rapidly approaching a future where all entertainment will be AI generated.
It's either garbage games made by diversity hire women and pajeets or garbage games made by AI.
Speaking of AI: this thread was created by a bot and you are all fricking npcs.
Oh boy, I can't wait for more endless goyslop
i hate the antichrist
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
lol no. the legal pushback has begun. AI won't be financially feasible for commercial use, just as i said at the beginning of all this.
also, if you look past the blatant stealing to create derivative works, AI still isn't really capable of doing much beyond what it used to do. the hype has been pushed by nvidia calling every new feature "AI" when it clearly isn't, in order to push this hype.
why? well it's not a coincidence that "AI" suddenly became the next big fad right after crypto shit the bed. nvidia has to sell those GPUs somehow since they completely lost the console market to APUs.
>little men sue Microsoft
This isn't pushback. They're already dead.
Court cases are being dismissed, it's already being used commercially, AI is CONSTANTLY improving, AI is in fact AI, and your perception about crypto=AI is just your moronic perception. It's not a reflection of reality.
AI will finish that fatfrick's book for him
You luddites lost
it will be a shitty fan project, and me writing it without AI slop would be better. and who's gonna sell it? you cannot due to copyright
>luddites
have a nice day bugman
>Most believe it will enhance quality and speed
>most
>enhance quality and speed
The only part of that's true is "not reduce costs" because now you need jannies to clean up the AI mess.
I understand being hype for the tech, but the hatred of artists is weird.
Guess people here overfixate on leftist commiefornian twitter artists or something like they represent everybody. Shit's weird.
Nothing weird about hating annoying c**ts that are irrational and treat other people like trash. People don't hate based artists but those are few and far between.
>Nothing weird about hating annoying c**ts that are irrational and treat other people like trash.
Who are these people? c**ts on twitter?
Artists have produced every single game and thing you love, but they're not on Twitter shitting their pants.
I dunno, maybe it's just me preferring Japanese games and not using that shithole.
And on Ganker unfortunately. No one has anything against normal people.
Nothing weird on hatin hypocrites.
No artist was against automatization of labour of craftmanship of tools, furniture, cars, houses, etc.
But now that we can automatize them out of the market NOW is a problem.
>every sentence is its own paragraph even without meme arrows
Nice ChatGPT reply, Pajeetman.
ironic
>No artist was against automatization of labour of craftmanship of tools, furniture, cars, houses, etc.
What a moronic post, tell me did you ask them that?
>No artist was against automatization of labour of craftmanship of tools, furniture, cars, houses, etc.
hayao miyazaki was absolutely hating automatization of labour of planes and cars
>chooses the biggest luddite in the art world who thinks anime was a mistake
>anime was a mistake
he never said that. he's not that kind of guy. he's more of a ''every technology after 1950s was a mistake'' kind of guy so at least he's not hypocritical in the way you mentioned
So that means game prices should go down.
>AI shill thread template
>what does /insertboardhere/ think of AI in (board interest)?
>new AI developments will change (board interests) forever! (insert direct Pajeet article link)
This AI pushback is so weird
Are you artgays really losing ur jerbz?
Anyone with a brain would push back AI, the entire point is to replace you, you dumbfrick. Your a lemming walking off a cliff.
Idk breh, at worst we get our neetbux, but do nothing but vegetate
At best we'll get our neetbux and be able to create more efficiently
>the entire point is to replace you
>a machine can do even more manual labor for us
how is this a bad thing?
Because once the elites can get robots to do anything, what do you think they are going to do with you bud?
Give us our neetbux because the skynet/1984/whatever the sweet frick you're thinking, will not happen
>give us our neetbux
or what? you're gonna starve like a moron. how fricking stupid do you have to be to believe "the elites will care about me and give me free money"? no skynet, just slow decay and starvation. it will be more boring, painful and slow than you can imagine, no skynet needed. it's so funny you dismiss a skynet scenario as ridiculous fantasy, but you're willing to dream about your childish utopian freebux heaven.
>yeah everyone is going to starve to death because I unironically believe the elites are shapeshifting satanic reptiles hellbent on human destruction!
kys
nice self-own moron. they're simply careless and sociopathic, not the saviors and angels you portray them as. the only reason they appease to the population is because their labor is needed to keep a society functional. once you relinquish the only power leverage you have like the dumb cattle you are, it's game over
Uh yes? And it won't be everyone, just the lower class scum like you and I.
holy shit you're a fricking moron
take your own advice
do you give money to every homeless person you see in the streets?
>Because once the elites can get robots to do anything
they already have that, been the case for well over a decade now
what was going to happen again?
>they already have that, been the case for well over a decade now
????
yes
>implying these trust fund babies are even competent enough to upkeep AI or any form of quality control
lol, lmfao even
The elites will have robots doing mostly the delicate labor and corporate. Humans are still the best laborers by far when it comes to menial tasks, just ask your friend who works at the Amazon warehouse.
https://youtube.com/shorts/6Kp5qrCExps?si=w7CKWG1qiTTooAhs
>This AI pushback is so weird
there are a million reasons to pushback against it. even if you're just a normalgay parent who posted you or your dumb kid'd face on the internet.
>there are a million reasons to pushback against it.
like?
use your imagination you fricking moron. this is the only example I will give you, rest is you having to use your big boy brain, or maybe ask chatGPT
>https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-09-18/in-spain-dozens-of-girls-are-reporting-ai-generated-nude-photos-of-them-being-circulated-at-school-my-heart-skipped-a-beat.html
someone used a tool to make nudes? Whats the issue here, this isnt remotely unique to AI
>$23.99 ai generated skins
So this is the future the homosexual foretold
Progress is good, AI is progress
Oh no we're democratizing access to the arts, oh no we're automating difficult things, oh no we can make advances in robotics/medicine/research, oh no personal tutors for everyone, oh no its never been easier to learn something new, oh no its easy to develop new skills, oh no we can analyze information beyond the capabilities of the human brain, oh no maybe we'll all be able to drink mimosas while relaxing on a beach because society is maintained by AI, oh no the world is going to get better why isn't everyone against it CHANGE IS SCARY REEEEEEEEEEEE
anyway kys
>not a new ip
it really is a full-on ai shill bot thread uh
gotta pump those stocks up
kys
Yeah frick those artists who spend decades mastering their craft because it's something they love and have also made everything you love to this day. Dipshit.
artists can still do that, nothing is stopping them
It'll account for 99% of games with 1% of people playing them
Enjoy a world of shovelslop like you've never imagined
>buying AI shovelslop when you could just download AI and generate shovelslop yourself
ngmi
The main thing that will be a boon to developers is AI generated code. Hopefully this is unseat lazy ass indie dev coders from holding back the entirety of the production.
I am sculpting as we speak
AI will have a hard time replicating what I have planned, art/game-wise, because what I have planned does not exist yet.
If AI could code and do the more technical stuff for me, my unique dream game may just become a reality
Exactly. Coding was the main set back that repeatedly occured during the golden modding age of ~2006-2012 when Source Engine and a few other engines were king. Everyone could make the assets but it was usually a cabal of coders that dictated whether a mod would even release or not.
So it was the code monkeys gatekeeping gamedev...
>butthurt artists having an /x/ meltie because coomers are genning instead of shilling out $800+tip for mediocre anime tiddies
>AI cuck thinks he gets to call other shit mediocre
>the input is the same anime slop his slop machine will sloppify even harder
lol
Tell me how much your art costs. So I know how much I saved by genning myself something better.
i hope you are ready for the AI created code that learned from one billion pajeets
>ai can already generate content and then predict exactly how much engagement the content will get
it is over
>maximizing engagement just to get people hooked, not to convey a message or anything in particular
how do people creating these things not see how over it is for themselves and their own kids
>reee "AI" is just a glorified autocomplete!
So are humans
this isn't the argument that you think it is because the more you equate AI to humanity the quicker that shit gets regulated into the ground
If it gets too bad and it really does become hard to find enjoyable games then I'll just stop buying new ones. I don't think it's a big deal. Million games exist already.
most "AI art" get 0 interaction on twitter
it's just a niche product and people won't accept it
They already used AI to create world in gay games like witcher and you did enjoy your slop so what's the differance.