Genshin Impact or Tower of Fantasy? Or should I wait for Wuthering Wave, Enfield or ZZZ?
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Genshin Impact or Tower of Fantasy? Or should I wait for Wuthering Wave, Enfield or ZZZ?
>Genshin
meh
>Tower of Fantasy
only if you can whale
>Wuthering Waves
if you liked pgr combat this might be for you
>Endfield
dont know much about it but if its from hypergryph its gonna be good
>ZZZ
gonna be censored by the ccp
ToF is powercreeped now? What happened?
For me it's Wuthering Waves, but Endfield might be cool too.
Genshin's 3.0 didn't impress me and I don't expect things to get better in the next major update, Tower of Fantasy is a MMO-lite and I don't have time (or friends) for that, and I didn't enjoy ZZZ's original inspiration (Honkai 3's roguething mode). I would love a standalone Post-Honkai Odyssey game, but WW is closer to that dream than ZZZ.
In my experience ToF sucks without friends, and the solution to "no friends" is your credit card (because the chances of the matchmaking giving me at least 1 half-decent player to play with are way lower than the game's gacha rates).
ToF actually punishes you for rolling stuff without any actual planning, unless you are whale who can just overcome this with your wallet, since unlike Genshin, they actively push out high end contents that require you to actually build your character with proper gears.
It's really suck if you play the game as F2P or light spenders and also want to dress up your character in fancy costumes since you will severely cripple your character power by doing so, and would have to rely on some whales to carry your ass through the game.
Pretty accurate. Your resources are limited as a F2P and going in blind without knowing what you need and what you have to use together to be effective and just rolling for what you want will leave you with crippling debt and unable to do anything. Especially since it depends on getting dupes a lot harder than Genshin does.
>now
Always has been.
They just shuffled some release order and did some token amount of balance that only mattered for non-whale, to give the illusion on release that it wasn't as P2W as the asian version.
It is objectively less p2w than asian version tho. "Less p2w" doesn't mean "not p2w"
Enfield and genshin are barely games, tof is powercreep galore unless you can find a crew, zzz is honkai lite. Just stick to pgr and wait for ww.
If you have people to play with a lot, Tower of Fantasy is fine, though it loads forever and in general daily shit takes forever, partly because of that, but also partly because there's a lot of shit to do. I'd like to say the battle system is a bit more fun than in Genshin, but it's also very jank.
Genshin can be played alone just fine. You don't get as good rewards for running around and doing nothing, as you'd get in tower of fantasy (pull related), but in exchange the daily routine and loading isn't nearly as bad. Also in Genshin 4 stars are usable. In ToF they really aren't, so while you get a lot of pulls for the standard banner, it's kinda fake as you hard require SSR. The mattering pulls aren't really much more than in Genshin, if they are even more. (limited banner pulls)
For people who love exploration and player autonomy it's still fun. I'd not play it for the story or whatever though.
But if you for example played Witcher 3 and thought "frick, all these weapons and skill choices have literally 0 impact and it doesn't fricking matter what I ever do", Genshin won't be doing that. What chars you end up upgrading, what weapon you give them, what artifacts.. all of that has really big impact. The only downside is that a lot of weapons are locked behind gacha. I feel like this game would be a lot better without that, but alas.
>all of that has really big impact
While I don't disagree with this, I feel that Genshin's combat always ends up funneling you into playing either tic-tac-toe (swap, swirl, swap, reaction, repeat) or shump (one character and three turrets/buffs). Team building matters, but characters themselves don't do much to spice things up in combat. Dendro introduced new elemental gimmicks but then you have Nilou that essentially skips all of them so you can go back to "haha hilichurls go boom".
ToF's combat would be great if it wasn't jank as frick (and didn't have all the other isses.). I'm placing my bets on WW now.
Endfield has no information whatsoever outside of a CG trailer and an environment demo. Not even a timeline to put into relation with Arknights
I don't know why some people have such unfounded confidence in hypergryph, they seem to be more interesting in making MV than developing games. They already announced another new project before Endfield, which no one knows if they are still working on it since there has been no news about it for over a year.
Mobileshit devs going big has burned a lot less people than smol indy or AAA. So there is precedent for it to be good despite little communication. Also common joke is that Hypergyph is a music company and not a game one
genshin, tower and ww are all open world collectathon slop
i am gonna go with star rail until zzz releases, and then never touch any other gacha besides sticking to zzz
no idea about enfield
>Genshin
Censored
>Tower of Fantasy
MMO
>ZZZ
Censored
Wuthering Waves is the only one looking promosing atm. Enfield is wait and see.
>All from China
They're all censored
Yostar exists
>censored
if you care about breasts more than you care about gameplay just play an H game instead of jerking off about CCP
Mind your own business homosexual
if you didn't want us to know you were jerking off why did you post about jerking off on an anonymous imageboard
Uh huh. Why you trying to dictate what other people do?
Are you legit defending censorship
Genshin is the only one of those who has a serious chance of still having servers in 3 years.
Depend how much loss aversion you have.
I can’t really offer you a solid opinion on these since only 2 out of the 5 are released, but I’ll give you my two cents. (TLDR; WW is the only one that holds my attention.)
Genshin: Combat system with the depth of a puddle, empty & plastic feeling world (and character design tbh) with a story that has a plot thinner than paper. Massive community tho, but most of them are extremely questionable.
ToF: Cool combat that still unfortunately feels jank like the rest of the game, though admittedly I have not played in over six months at this point, so it could be better, who knows. Reading this thread, I’m not seeing too many positive comments abt the game though.
Wuthering Wave: Genuinely looks promising, but I’m trying to get into the closed beta test to really see, I’ve liked what I’ve seen from the trailers and it looks promising.
Enfield: Personally I got really fricking bored of Arknights, wouldn’t mind giving this game a shot tho. But we have next to no information.
ZZZ: Published by hoyoverse, same people who were behind genshin so I already have (ZZ)Zero hope for this game tbh.
I’d wait for Wuthering Waves and see how that game turns out. Maybe Enfield will be good, but I have a feeling the game will die before release or we won’t hear about anything before a few years from now.
I’ll keep this thread open in another tab if you have any questions.
Where did mihoyo touch you, anon
Got a teddy bear on you? Jk. I guess I just don’t really have a good opinion on them because I used to play genshin way too much before I realized how much I dislike it for the reasons listed. It’s just personal preference for me ig.
I mean, the combat overall was decently polished but there were some things that didn’t sit right with me and the friends I played it with, but we also all have not collectively played in six months probably so things could be way more polished by then. There were just a bunch of things that didn’t sit right with any of us. I could elaborate but I honestly don’t remember any specific things, just how it felt.
I still don't know what jank people are referring to in tof's combat, they never further elaborate. Played that from release until the second major region and thought the combat was fine, what is jank though is the actual world. Particularly cliffs, sometimes climbing up the edge will slingshot you back to the bottom.
genshin character designs are so fricking horrendous
like, i get it, its a 12+ or something, but still, just fricking fire the moron who keeps approving those horribly overdone and overdesigned character designs
thats the lone reason why i havent touched that game
I've played Genshin since launch and played a bit of ToF
I enjoyed ToF a lot but overall it was too similar to genshin and I was already far more invested in that game
If you like the social aspect then definitely play ToF, I had a blast in the beta playing with other people
Although I think the characters in genshin are better due to the fact that in ToF they just feel like accessories
Everyone i know dropped ToF because it was garbage overall
>Empty world despite being an "MMO"
>Switching instances has a cooldown
>Having MMO-tier amount of people on a boss causes connection collapse
>Story and presentation absolute shite
>Environments suck
>Rotations are ass
>F2P unfriendly
>Global double-censored atop existing chinese censorship
Cope was that "2.0 will fix everything" but none managed to stay that long and eventually stopped caring when it did, me included
skill issue
Devs definitely lacked skill to make what they wanted
Don't worry anon. After Wuthering Waves' success Kuro will purchase Tower of Fantasy and reboot it into a good game.
>Environments suck
Not true since 2.1
Mirroria and Innars are examples when devs actually did way better maps than AAA games
>Global double-censored atop existing chinese censorship
Not true, Global has no censorship and mostly Hotta avoids CCP censorship(but just recently had to censor some half-year old material, unsure yet if it will be censored later on Global or not)
Rest is true.
Best way to enjoy ToF is by giving up on competition and being tank/healbawd to get carries while not being deadweight in group content
It still needs some jumpstart investment since game has heavy powercreep both for weapons and for world content. Game will get world level system in 2 weeks, so it will make new player experience better
Final redpill: stop playing gacha games
>Not true, Global has no censorship and mostly Hotta avoids CCP censorship
This is bullshit on such a degree that i can dig out pre-release confirmations with zero effort, let alone my own findings post-release by actually playing
>This is bullshit on such a degree that i can dig out pre-release confirmations with zero effort
Go on
>Lower half of breast slider is non-functional
>Multiple outfits censored
>NPCs censored
>Enemies censored
>Names changed for reasons
They didn't even alter the ingame pictures of the everything.
>Lower half of breast slider is non-functional
Alright, you right and it's my compliant too. CN doesn't have this slider, so it's hard to call "Global censorship" to be double censored
>Multiple outfits censored
>They didn't even alter the ingame pictures of the everything.
Maybe defaults. but later outfits have fully detailed panties and it's not censored other than one BP outfit that got the hit in recent CN patch
>NPCs censored
>Enemies censored
Have no idea what are you talking about
Pic is most recent character with exposed bare ass
2 characters before that had abnormally big boobs with underboob exposed, it's more coomer gacha than you might think
Underboob character, somehow avoided CCP censorship
>Have no idea what are you talking about
Of course you don't
Not a clue whatsoever
Difference between art and models in 1.0 is the fact that CN beta and CN 1.0 release had massive changes
Likely they didn't changed the art though
It's not global censorship
genshin so you can follow the lore schizos