I always do my first playthroughs solo.
I play co-op to have fun with my friends on subsequent playthroughs. At that point the challenge of the game has been overcome and VIG is even more pointless.
I don't do VIG on first play through to preserve challenge
I don't do VIG in co-op because I don't need it.
PvP isn't even in the equation, I have fun enough in the game without it.
NTA. Not leveling vigor is moronic and shows you have no idea how the game functions, meaning you will invariably get completely assfricked the moment you step outside of Limgrave. Until you are over B scaling, your weapon is gaining on about half a point of damage per stat point. Incredible stuff.
This means that, at level 60-70, the average level for Lleyndell, where you have around C scaling, if you go for your 'non-cringe based low VIG build', if you have 50 mainstat you are gaining a grand total of twenty-five damage per hit. It's unironically not worth it to level main stats unless you are a caster, because caster scaling goes through the roof way faster than melee builds.
You're not showing your skill by not leveling vigor, you're showing you fundamentally don't comprehend how the game works. Only casters get real priority on their main stat because it gates huge amounts of utility and spells away from them if they DON'T level it.
tl;dr you're dumb as frick and probably whine when you get onetapped by a counter hit
I don't do math when I level up, I put points n whatever feels good at the time.
And for what it's worth, I do actually put points in VIG, it's just slowly, over the whole playthrough. I usually get it to around 20 in Limgrave and just leave it there until around Altus platau where I slowly get it to around 30. I then get to about 40 before stopping by endgame. So really I do level it, I just don't immediately pump it to fricking 60 or whatever PvPdudes want me to have it at 2 hours into the game. My early game is all about getting endurance and weapon/spell prerequisites out of the way first, VIG is last to get the bump.
If you fight me at endgame I'll be much more evenly matched and it'll be more fun.
My favorite invasion VIG check was the one-eyed shield
It's not a good option but it does enough damage to one-shot bad players who don't expect it and dump VIG, unfortunately by now people actually bother to
>pokeberd+offstoc >bnb aow "ooouh I gotta reapply my buff ouuh I'm nothing without my buff" >has to sweat his life off and make full use of his twinking kit to stand his ground >against a dual nagi phantom so fricking stupid he straight up do 1/10th of the damage he normally should >host doesn't even engage, invader would have spontaneously combusted had it been an actual 2v1
You don't even realize you're part of the rot you despise
>"twinking kit"
Shit you pick up by riding a horse?
Lmao. Explore the game Black person, perhaps you will find something useful. And perhaps you should at least test out what you find instead of forgetting about it forever.
wolfenstein youngblood has co-op or well it's more like co-op only because you ll have the ai play the other character anyway.
do the other wolfensteins have co-op?
>play co-op with friend >find dungeon in overworld >sever out, sprint to it myself, enter, then summon again >have to do everything twice >have to do this process everytime we find something
I don't even care about invaders, I like the pvp as long as they arent rotpot metashitters, but holy frick is fromsoft incompetent at implementing multiplayer
Why do people whine about the mod/mod creators, and not FROM for still using their dogshit co-op system. If it was built in seamless, invading would be possible. >walls off so much shit >de-summons >can't use mount
So fricking dumb
This, ER's multiplayer is so fricking autistic, I don't understand how morons defend it.
im sorry that nobody wants to play with you, anon.
maybe try not preying on people who just started playing the game?
there are dedicated pvp areas, you know.
I'm sorry you are so scared and so skilless you can't fricking press forward and then R1 to hit the invader
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you deal just under a third of his healthbar per hit >he can barely deal 20% of yours >AND you have health regen
this is exactly what im talking about, anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
just under half i mean, not third.
how is this supposed to be fair?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>B-but the percenteage of a healthbar
moron, we're doing the exact same level of damage to each other. The difference is that I leveled my health and he didn't. My weapons are +0.
Stop being allergic to leveling vigour and perhaps you will stop being invaded by "overpowered invaders who kill me in 2 hits"
3 months ago
Anonymous
not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players because there are actually strategies to dodge around bosses and enemies.
why should he suddenly be expected to level a near useless stat because the red gay WILL facetank everything he can throw out?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players >"good" players enter the snow area >AIIIEEEE!!! Difficulty Spike! Why would you do this fromsoft!
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're playing in Weeping Peninsula, which is always under rain, granting your lightning damage a big boost against the invader. The invader hasn't been to Altus to pick up ashes of war and golden seeds, doesn't have physick tears to improve damage, probably isn't wearing a soreseal to gain 20 levels' worth of flat defense that applies before the percentage reductions that matter when the numbers are as small as you're playing with. This is just a bully build, and I'm sure you'll justify it by saying "I was using taunter's tongue, he chose to invade, he should deal with it" but doing stuff like this to just farm people who have no chance of fighting back is boring. It's not evil or cruel or lame, it's just boring. Why compete when the outcome is predetermined? It's not a competition at all at that point, you're just wasting time for yourself and your opponents.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because the outcome isn't predetermined. You don't know who's in the world you're invading.
It could be two guys with straight swords who just bought Elden Ring.
It could be one guy with basic gear and two guys with endgame gear.
It could be three guys with endgame gear just chillin' in Limgrave.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I would wager that fully 95% of all players you're eligible to invade do not also take 15-20 hours to reach lategame zones and get all the golden seeds, sacred tears, and cracked out ashes of war or equipment they need to serve as an extremely low level gank squad. Near the mid or late game, maybe that's more the case, but at weapon upgrade level 0 most people can't be assed to play like that. And if that's not the overwhelming majority of who you're up against, your point strikes me as moot. You're planning around someone you intend to encounter 1/20 times when invading, and just glossing over the 19/20 that makes up the rest of the time you're spending bullying toddler Tarnished.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Except in my experience, it's swapped. I very rarely encounter players casually going through the game. 1/20 times it's just some guy. 19/20 times it's someone who has all the golden seeds, sacred tears, best equipment and wiki-fed guide builds, plus one clueless host.
The issue of Dark Souls invasions since the very beginning is people who don't actually play invasion content think they know how it goes and they don't. You get your information about how souls invasions go from other people complaining about them on steam, Ganker and reddit, and you think that's just how it is.
Have you considered just trying it for yourself?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I like your strawman of me, but I see no evidence corroborating your experience other than these sick owns against mostly early game players and one guy with double cross naginata who's playing like ass. You're just out and out wrong. I play Elden Ring to PvP at a variety of level ranges and make a new character to enjoy for a few weeks every month or two since the game came out. It's possible your confirmation bias of a bad experience with these sweatlords is outweighing your ability to recall standard hosts and summons, but you're also acting to some degree in bad faith about the nature of your builds you're bringing to low level zones.
I am constantly swapping between fire and lightning weapons because fun.
Rain constantly diminishes my fire damage but I don't see you complaining about it in the videos where there is rain or puddles of water.
It's still a 120 AR buff at basically no FP cost that also comes with a sick combo move. Even with the percentage reduction damage from rain, you're doing far more than baseline damage for players who haven't whipped around to the back of Redmane Castle or up to Altus Plateau.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Post some PVP footage then.
When I toss a bloody finger at level 60 and get put in Limgrave I dunno what you want me to say about that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This dude's worse than a fricking PvE only gay, he's "muh honorabru invader" Peeve Peeverson Black person lmao
I bet you bow before every fight
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't, I'm mostly out for blood, but I'm not trying to compete with someone who stands no chance of fighting back. I'm not here to be honorable, I'm here to have fun. Shitting on people who stand no chance of winning isn't fun. It's boring. Winning a hard-fought 2v1 against people who are nearly as skilled as me or using the environment to knock off someone trying to rush me down is exciting. Having two to four times the talisman slots of the people I invade, twice the physical % reduction, and twice the damage sounds like a power fantasy better fulfilled by a musou game than souls PvP.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's still a 120 AR buff at basically no FP cost that also comes with a sick combo move. >sick combo move.
Dude. Come on. Who the frick gets hit by it. It's a slow ass "I raise my sword in slow motion and do a stomp you can roll out of or interrupt".
If you talk about firestrike then sure. It's a good one for a reason. But it's still easy to avoid and you can actually jump over it entirely for a counter.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Was talking about flame strike since it came up as a counterargument to the lightning strike always being such a damage boost. Lightning strike not for the buff's sake is only good if the opponent is a total dunce or you're doing weird incantation stuff that allows for combos out of the boulder throw or O Flame.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Black person, you get 10-12 if you just ride around with your horse and pick every golden seed on the world map.
You get 13 if you go to the legacy dungeons. All that without ever stepping into the snow area.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>why are you complaining about my one shot build? >all you have to do is use an external guide to beat that game!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he needs an external guide to ride around the world and spot little golden trees
moron, people have been doing that day one because they can.
The fact you're so braindead you bash your head against margit as your first boss doesn't mean everyone else is the same.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The issue is people who play exclusively PvE and think they're hot shit are actually really bad at the game. Turns out Souls games aren't as hard as people think, and you can win at them fairly easily without getting all of the items.
So they think someone who does have all of the items is a tryhard or some nonsense. They see someone with a strong weapon and assume it's some endgame weapon because their weapon isn't that strong, when it absolutely could've been. Most players inventories are filled with weapons that are half-upgraded because they're just slapping titanite shards on random shit as they get it.
And honestly that's fine, you can play however you want. But especially in the Souls games (I haven't played Elden Ring), if you just upgrade ONE weapon and actually explore, you can be extremely powerful very early on.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>upgrade base weapon >becomes obsolete once I get any boss weapon or by the time I get the spear in Sen's >by the time you get real upgrades you're nearly half way done with the game
eh.
3 months ago
Anonymous
In Dark Souls 3 you have access to Vordt's Hammer after the first boss.
Vordt's Hammer is completely viable for the entire game and is a monster in PVP.
If you just choose not to use Vordt's Hammer that's fine, but having it so you can smack an invader around is a good idea.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Does Elden Ring not have a Vordt's Hammer equivalent? Like I said, I haven't played it, but surely there's a weapon you can get early on that's perfectly viable for PvE and PvP. Souls 1 had the Zweihander, for instance.
What's the Zweihander of Elden Ring?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>becomes obsolete
No it doesn't.
You just get a new toy with a different moveset, not a direct upgrade.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Starting club by all definitions is shittier than reinforced, Gargoyle Halberd is a direct upgrade to base. What are you talking about? Not all weapon types are linear in what better objectively, Zwie is a popular one and you get it early as frick. But no one sticks with a base dagger or one-two hander, that never happens. There's always incentive to use something better besides gear.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>didn't get a weapon on his way to gargoyles
You had several oportunities to get spears, claymore, srtaight swords, an uchigatana and more.
You have this opportunity the moment you first end up in firelink shrine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I was comparing an early halberd to that halberd, Sen's spear > base spear by having lightning on it, Zwei and Claymore are virtually the same, except swing speed and Zwei rapes poise, Falcion rapes straight swords, Washing Pole is basically Uchi but a bit longer.
You're seeing the forest for the trees.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Early halberd is just a slightly different moveset to gargoyles.
It's perfectly viable.
Zwei and Claymore are entirely different weapon categories.
3 months ago
Anonymous
These people are in Limgrave and Weeping Peninsula and Liurnia. They are not just zone hopping to get all the consuambles and upgrades they can right off the bat because that is not how the average player plays this game, especially if they're co-oping with their bros. Nothing about the situation you're proposing is in line with normal gameplay.
>Bro you're hitting them for like 1/8 of their max HP through a shield under lightning buff.
If 58 damage is 1/8 of the max hp, who's fault is that for not leveling vig? >but 2 dudes are weaker
No. Nothing ever beats numbers advantage.
Those guys just needed to keep the pressure up instead of letting me juggle them one by one and they would have won.
In a lot of cases the people you're invading are within a fistful of levels of starting the game. Even if they leveled vigor, they probably still wouldn't be as stacked as you, and you'd go from 2-3 shotting as with the video at Church of Elleh to 3-4 shotting instead.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I dunno man when I play open world games I just kinda run around for a while and grab shit. I can't be the only person that plays like that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's much less convenient to do in Elden Ring specifically when you're co-oping with your friends because you lose Torrent and have to walk everywhere and constantly resummon them. I doubt most people go pick everything up and then start co-oping with their friends after all that unless they're on wildly different schedules.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Right I forgot the premise of this horrible thread was specifically co-op.
Real talk though, do you guys REALLY have NO fun getting invaded when you're with friends? You don't have fun trying to kill the invader, or having Tom and Jerry style chases around a castle with some random red douchebag? You just get angry? I don't get it.
When I played co-op it was annoying to not have it be seamless but I don't think I would enjoy seamless co-op without the invaders. The invaders were fun.
These people remind me of kids in school who didn't like tag because they didn't enjoy getting chased. All the other kids laughed and had a great time but there was always one kid who screamed and cried during tag.
3 months ago
Anonymous
In large part I think having experience with invaders in DS1-3 helps acclimate people to the fun of the experience. In Elden Ring that it's specifically confined to when you're summoning or intentionally letting someone in at no benefit/cost to yourself makes it weirder. In 1 and 2 you'd have to be human, but that was semi-common for players wanting to Kindle or avoid max HP penalties. For 3 it happened anytime you were embered which was obviously a net benefit to the player for the big HP boost and because it happened after every boss kill, even without the consumables. All of this is to say nothing of covenants providing fun incentives for people to actually engage with the content even if they're not PvPheads like you or me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I am constantly swapping between fire and lightning weapons because fun.
Rain constantly diminishes my fire damage but I don't see you complaining about it in the videos where there is rain or puddles of water.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This looks terrible. How can Fromtards stomach this shit?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You still have an Uber PVP build. Not a lot of skill involved in the webms you're posting
3 months ago
Anonymous
>uber pvp build >level VIG and chug a regen flask
Wow, so hard to build!
moron, your winrate will go up dramatically if you stop going for your damage stats first
3 months ago
Anonymous
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND! >I NEED TO TWO SHOT PEOPLE WHO ARE LEVELING FOR THE CONTENT IN THE GAME AND NOT TO COUNTER MY BUILD COPIED FROM YOUTUBE!!!
no you dont.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I am so moronic I need YOUTUBE to tell me to level health
You don't even get any fricking damage from your offensive stats until you upgrade your weapons to at least +15
3 months ago
Anonymous
>LET ME TWO SHOT YOU!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Level vig and I can't two-shot you, moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>YOU HAVE TO BUILD AROUND MY ONE SHOT BUILD ON YOUTUBE AND NOT BUILD FOR THE CONTENT IN THE GAME! >IF YOU DONT, I'LL TWO SHOT YOU!
pass.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I NEED YOUTUBE TO LEVEL VIG >I JUST DON"T GET HIT
Then don't be a shit player and don't actually get hit
3 months ago
Anonymous
the problem is that you have an endgame build capable of facetanking while the version of me in question just downloaded the game yesterday.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"endgame build" >lvl 20 with no weapon upgrades and gear from the first area of the game and shit you can quickly access if you just ride your horse around
Nice attempt at an excuse, but I know you have been whining about it for past 15 years
3 months ago
Anonymous
>its not engame bro! >i just rushed endgame weapons from the start so that i can fight fresh installs who are using sticks and stones in comparison!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>if you just ride your horse around
Almost nobody is autistic enough to just go riding around the map grabbing overpowered items just to grief other players. You want people to play around your autism but they won't since there is a much better alternative.
It's funny you kind remind me of people that want to force others to use their pronouns and shit like that. Cope and dilate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>moron, your winrate will go up dramatically if you stop going for your damage stats first
You might find this hard to comprehend but what if my goal is just playing the game with friends instead of trying to counter some butthole whose entire purpose is ruining the game for others?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but what if my goal is just playing the game with friends
then this game is not for you and you should go play borderlands or some other casualslop built exactly for people like you
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he thinks that soulslop is actually hard and not just janky
oh no no no no no.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Except it is for me and I had fun just playing with friends for literally hundreds of hours.
And now I'm having even more fun realizing that by me literally existing and playing with my friend I cause an immeasurable amount of butthurt to tryhard gays like you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but I played it co-op with my friend and had a great time the whole playthrough. We're gonna do a second run, when we get closer to the DLC release and try other build combos out.
I don't really understand what the flex here is supposed to be. Regen tear in physick + icon shield means that anyone with unupgraded weapons basically can't hurt you. You're playing an invincible godmode build to on-level players. If they have an overleveled phantom where downscaling isn't working properly, sure, that's whatever, but you're coming into Limgrave with Lightning Slash making your weapon's AR literally double what anything they can get their hands on can put out. This isn't some sick own against PvE players, it's just sad.
>If they have an overleveled phantom
They almost always do. In my experience, the times when there's two dudes just playing casually is far, far less than a guy with two phantoms who have Moghs spear and shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
At any level below 50, which I assume the anon in those videos is at, I've found that more than 3/4 of every invasion has two bros at about the same level. Closer to 70 or 90 is where high level bullgoats come into play for most of my PvP builds, and at the "meta" levels ~125, 137, 150, or 200 is where the max level dudes start coming into play. But that's just my experience, and it also differs the further out from a sale or any big hype around the game happens, where only the gankiest of squads are playing instead of people just progressing.
2 players can basically stunlock a single player if they keep the pressure up.
The guy had an innate bleed weapon which is unsurprisingly effective.
The point here is that they had all the chances and they were doing great with timed blocks where I was doing no damage with the "overpowered" buffed weapon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bro you're hitting them for like 1/8 of their max HP through a shield under lightning buff. Weapons at the early game have 120 AR and you're swinging something with 270 via lightning infusion and lightning buff. Flat defenses are still low so they're taking a truckload of damage, but you're trying to justify it by saying this guy has a bleed weapon with a shit moveset that you let yourself get hit with 6 times in a row, and that makes it an even playing field.
Nevermind, if you really struggle this much with fundamentals and understanding the power scale of someone with full flasks versus two dudes at Church of Elleh, you probably do need every advantage you can get to win.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Bro you're hitting them for like 1/8 of their max HP through a shield under lightning buff.
If 58 damage is 1/8 of the max hp, who's fault is that for not leveling vig? >but 2 dudes are weaker
No. Nothing ever beats numbers advantage.
Those guys just needed to keep the pressure up instead of letting me juggle them one by one and they would have won.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Case in point, mage tries to irritate me and draw aggro, knowing that targeting a caster first is always a good idea, letting his friend get to me and do damage.
If their 3rd friend didn't fight agheel, they would most likely win.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You walk into like every hit, no shit you need all those flasks and that regen and the weapon buffs to do anything.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That is the entire point of that build.
I also enjoy doing shit like this
3 months ago
Anonymous
REEEE THERE WAS NO CHALLENGE THERE IT WASN'T A NAILBITING KERFUFFLE HOW COULD YOU DO THIS
3 months ago
Anonymous
Got any cool builds that aren't designed to oneshot?
Like clockwork
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty boring video. If it excites you, I'm glad for you and hope you keep having fun.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well, here's an entire montage of this build if you like it so much
3 months ago
Anonymous
i dont think he's going to beat the youtube build shitter allegations...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Black person I made the video
3 months ago
Anonymous
>advertising on Ganker.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>that ambush at 10:55
kino
3 months ago
Anonymous
Got any cool builds that aren't designed to oneshot?
3 months ago
Anonymous
This one is designed to endure OLP's not to oneshot, by taking advantage of weapon downscaling.
I know it may not look like it to you since "oh muh gawd you do half the health bar to people who don't level vig and wear radagon's soreseal" but still.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>designed to endure overleveled phantoms >duelist sign or taunter's tongue to get a red in
I don't understand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I do both, if you didn't notice.
TT dueling is specifically to make webms for morons who say "you only invade unprepared noobs who can't fight back" so they shut the frick up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You do recognize that unprepared noobs can also be invaders, right? Varre has a whole quest that pipelines unprepared noobs into the worlds of others. Not every invader is doing what you're doing. In fact, I'd say most of them aren't from my own taunter's tongue playthrough experience.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, this quest also happens to be located after 2 +8 weapon injections to your inventory. You can't invade a +0 if you ever touched a +8
3 months ago
Anonymous
Many people won't get the +8 banished knight halberd for not doing the quest at Castle Morne, and many more might not ever encounter Rogier in Roundtable Hold after he moves in. You're basing every assumption, as before, on this idea that people are trying to take every single advantage they can and doing everything fully to completion before they start invading and failing to recognize that some people just bumble their way forward and stumble across shit. While there are going to be a lot of people who self-select out of your pool, it doesn't mean it's empty at all.
Also you can get to Liurnia without ever going toward either of the npcs who are responsible for those +8 injections by sheer happenstance, not just people fervently rushing to Varre's lap.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't need to do the quest at the castle, he just moves and starts invading you.
Also if you tell rogier you killed godrick he gives you his +8 rapier.
Why do people whine about the mod/mod creators, and not FROM for still using their dogshit co-op system. If it was built in seamless, invading would be possible. >walls off so much shit >de-summons >can't use mount
So fricking dumb
at the end of the day it's gonna be laggy shit netcode gameplay so why even bother "fixing" it
Why do people whine about the mod/mod creators, and not FROM for still using their dogshit co-op system. If it was built in seamless, invading would be possible. >walls off so much shit >de-summons >can't use mount
So fricking dumb
>can't use mount
this is the only one that makes sense tbh, hitting even normal enemies can be annoying as frick, nevermind trying to hit another player sprinting around erratically as frick. I want something like seamless co-op to be integrated into the game with invasions, but mounting has to stay out of it, at least when the invader is physically close to the host/phantom.
Yeah my friend and I accidentally found the storm veil skip when we were still noobs and we didn't know what the frick the big wall was and just assumed we weren't allowed to go that way and then we forgot about it. The coop walls are fricking moronic and also totally pointless.
I do blame From for not improving their multiplayer from game to game, ER just has the bare essentials copy pasted from previous games with the addition of a poorly coded teleport that ignores the vertical axis.
Modding it in isn't a good solution however since it splits up the playerbase which only hurts the base game. The message from players is clear, they want better multiplayer. From doesn't seem to listen though, otherwise they would do something about it in the DLC. Frick them.
Sincerely hope the mod author is based enough to choose to not update it. Someone will eventually ofc, but it would be nice to delay it as long as possible.
All this mod did was destroy actual co-op in the game. I can still get regular invasions, I can very rarely ever get summoned. Everybody but the people playing the mod lost.
I'm doing a co-op player right now and we tried to summon each other, but it wasn't working immediately despite us doing the exact same shit we remembered doing at launch. We tried for about ten minutes and then shrugged it off and went to seamless.
We actually wanted to have invasions and the like so it was sad, but it would've been a massive pain in the ass to resummon for absolutely everything.
>not invited to "friends" houses >not invited to irl parties >not invited to events >not invited to dates >not invited to video games >this last one is somehow the final straw >"you MUST play with ME!!!"
Sorry op
but you aren't invited to my elden ring game
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAVE NO FRIENDS AND I NEED TO PLAY IT AS IT COMES OUT JUST LIKE MY DUDES ON Ganker >I NEED THEM, I CAN'T DISCUSS THE GAME UNLESS IT'S ON Ganker RIGHT AFTER RELEASE
this is you
one would hope, but I know better than to expect that level of self control around here. Gamers are the lowest level of consumers humanity has produced yet.
a small update later in the life cycle of a game is far more likely to go unfixed than a DLC that brings back almost every single person that played the base game
>its not engame bro! >i just rushed endgame weapons from the start so that i can fight fresh installs who are using sticks and stones in comparison!
>endgame weapons
Halberd is stormveil.
Estoc is first merchant in lurnia (just ride to it)
Dismounter drops from vikings in limgrave
Try again homosexual.
>I CAN'T win! >I HAVE to cheat!
Lol, Lmao. Just press R1
3 months ago
Anonymous
>every single video he posted is him using meta pvp shit to frick over player that just started playing the game
You are the perfect example of why this mod is so popular. Nobody wants to play with buttholes like you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>On no! He points out how shit I am at the game and PROVES it with his own braindead gameplay! >a-butthole!
Seethe more zeroskill
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just pointing out the obvious. Where are the videos of you engaging in pvp with people that are actually prepared for it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>seething too hard to notice
tt ones are against the invaders.
Are invaders "not prepared?"
Or is it just more cope?
3 months ago
Anonymous
still waiting for you to post the clips of endgame pvp instead of just low lvl pvp
3 months ago
Anonymous
>clips of everyone 2-shots everyone
Just make a low level cheracter and put me in my place if you're so tough
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well at least you admit that your entire thing IS just fricking over newbies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>overleveled phantoms are newbies >other invaders are newbies >You CAN'T just choose to not level up!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You CAN'T just choose to not level up!
You can but you already admitted that the only reason you made that choice is to frick over new players.
You want force people to play with you on your own terms but yourself can't accept playing the game the way the game was intended either.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Not leveling up is not intended!
Who told you that, the "recommended level by zone" guide?
Lmao >also ignores overleveled phantoms and other invaders because he can't cope with that
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can keep crying but it won't change the fact that you cannot handle endgame pvp. All you do is get your kicks from beating new players and cry about how your own behavior makes people not want to play with you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
don't be moronic anon, you can't go seal clubbing in endgame zones and gear
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Seethe more zeroskill
very nice. Let's see paul allen's arena clips.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't beat the bosses >Has to resort to beating just starting players to feign skill
see thats the funny part, you know where all this stuff is because you know the game inside and out.
that new guy you're raiding? has one of those at the very most.
That new guy usually has a friend who also has beaten the whole game and more often than not drop him shit.
But that doesn't count for your cope. You're always a victim no matter what.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>i opened a guide before i even booted the game >that means everyone else has their experience spoiled in a similar way!
frickin hell mate. can you try to sound less pathetic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>thinks people need a fricking guide to level vig
3 months ago
Anonymous
im talking about the items, gaytard.
but you'll never admit that because it kills your entire argument.
also see
not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players because there are actually strategies to dodge around bosses and enemies.
why should he suddenly be expected to level a near useless stat because the red gay WILL facetank everything he can throw out?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>b-but enemies in the world are so easy I can go without leveling vig! >AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!! Margit oneshots me! Unfair! >AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!! Red men kill me with unupgraded weapons!!!
I mean, if you insist on being a moron be my guest.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but enemies in the world are so easy I can go without leveling vig!
correct >Margit oneshots me!
never complained about that >Red men kill me with unupgraded weapons!!!
nor that.
the core complaint is about YOU.
raids would be fine if it was just people of similar skill raiding each other, but its YOU who goes around the map at level 1 and collects things for the upper hand over people who are playing for their first time around.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Skill issue, get good at the game or play another game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>bro just look up a guide for top tier items that you can get at level 1!
(you) are the problem child of this equation.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he needs a fricking guide to use stuff he likes
3 months ago
Anonymous
again, thats not what im getting at but you'll never admit it because you know it kills your entire argument.
suppose i just booted up the game for the first time, not even a minute ingame.
how am i supposed to know where any of this
Whatever lets you cope
[...] >endgame weapons
Halberd is stormveil.
Estoc is first merchant in lurnia (just ride to it)
Dismounter drops from vikings in limgrave
Try again homosexual.
is? and that im supposed to get all of it because if i dont a red guy will come in and beat my kneecaps in for not having it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>how am i supposed to know where any of this is?
You fricking explore the game. By playing it. You have a horse that can skip every enemy in existence. Use it moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
why the frick would i SKIP enemies on my first time playing a game you absolute subhuman?
3 months ago
Anonymous
alright im exploring, but i didnt take a path that led me to those three things first or skip any enemies.
now red man popped in and killed me in two hits.
now what?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You respawn, spend 30 seconds to get your runes back and continue exploring since you now have a 10-15 minute cooldown on getting invaded.
3 months ago
Anonymous
alright cool but in those 15 minutes i didnt find any of those three things because i didnt take this specific path, now another red man spawned in and killed me again.
now what?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You continue until you find something you like and try it out.
You don't get your ego completely demolished by losing to another human being right?
Death has zero consequence in this game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You don't get your ego completely demolished by losing to another human being right?
funny you mention that.
why are you picking on fresh installs instead of people at your skill level in the pvp arena?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>arena?
Because I have to wait for eternity and never get a match. People keep telling you about it in every thread you try to use arena as a gotcha.
3 months ago
Anonymous
do you want to know why you have to wait an eternity? because nobody's interested in souls PVP except for shitters like you who just want to prey on new players.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all that cope
You can always play another game.
I know you NEED seamless to avoid getting shit on by a bad red man, despite having all the advantages you can have.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you dont get it bro. if you dont open a guide before you even boot the game then its your fault that you died to red man!
3 months ago
Anonymous
b-b-but you can play optimally and skip all the enemies and use a meta stat spread and pick a good weapon from the wiki and then invaders aren't as much of a threat....
3 months ago
Anonymous
You actually, unironically, do not need a guide to level vig, then walk forward and press r1 to win against an invader when you have 2 friends by your side.
3 months ago
Anonymous
not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players because there are actually strategies to dodge around bosses and enemies.
why should he suddenly be expected to level a near useless stat because the red gay WILL facetank everything he can throw out?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>moron reposting a moronic take
3 months ago
Anonymous
not leveling vigor is a risk/reward thing.
the risk? less HP, meaning bosses can easily one shot you.
the reward? more of everything else
players who dont level vigor understand the risk.
the problem comes from endgame players like who you follow a minmax build on youtube and can very easily face tank damage output to punish them for beating the risk factor of that risk/reward scenario.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't get anything out of your damage stat until you upgrade your weapon.
But morons will be morons and continue complaining about being killed after taking a risk.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you also get get anything when people dont want to play with your youtube one shot builds.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Skill issue, you should have watched youtube and prepared a meta build and summoned strong allies and- >invader proceeds to scream about "cheating" and "babysitting"
3 months ago
Anonymous
>skill issue for playing Elden Ring casually and not EPIC YOUTUBE INVADER HYPERMETA ULTRA GUIDE PERFECT BUILD FOR INVADING
3 months ago
Anonymous
>skill issue for playing Elden Ring casually
Yes, unironically.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, we've all seen this ten years ago. >lmao why aren't you prepared for my epic youtube build in The Burg
If you need kevlar and a machine gun to defeat a kid with a soft toy baseball bat, I guess it comes natural to you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
all of these clips suck its just two morons spamming eachother ill never understand why pvpgays dont buy a fighting game (oh wait its because they'd get destroyed in a real pvp game)
3 months ago
Anonymous
You suck in every game which has pvp and you will forever cope.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nope I play GBVSR, SF6 etc. Ive also done a million invasions but its just boring once you play the real thing
but no go ahead dude, it was super sick when you hit him cuz he didnt roll that was really tight
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I am super good and competitive in other games, just not this one
Lol. Lmao. Seethe more skillet. Your competitive skill goes to another school and you can't show us.
3 months ago
Anonymous
elden ring is not a competitive game
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why do invaders compare seal clubbing casuals to skill-based matchmaking PVP? Because you guys literally quake in fear of that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So was this invader with dual bleed spear (you have to farm for) with bleed buff a baby seal?
>thinks people need a fricking guide to level vig
3 months ago
Anonymous
you killed a guy that was lagging out... lmao these cips are pathetic
3 months ago
Anonymous
you killed a guy that was lagging out... lmao these cips are pathetic
That one phantom was a max level btw
Such a new player am I right?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>casulgays will never recover after seeing their max level friend getting demolished
>playing through new wolf games for the first time >first game slaps >New Colossus starts off great >Caroline, much loved and respected leader and mother figure gets brutally executed early in the game >her old quarters are, obviously for a leader, on the bridge of the stolen u-boat >The very next mission involves rescuing that one bug-eyed nog who is in every game >she and her colonizer immediately move into Caroline's quarters (despite the rest of her crew inhabiting a whole new area of the u-boat) >nobody bats an eye at this
It's like they forgot Caroline existed after her dramatic exit.
>guy that gets his kicks fricking over newbies >understanding how anything works
He doesn't even understand why people want to use the mod in the first place even though he is the primary reason
I played the new colossus for the first time yesterday and it is insane how buggy and unoptimized that game still is. Makes me very nervous for the Indiana Jones game.
We both can just Youtube a video about it to refresh our memories. Like even on ultra it gets 60+. And I'd imagine it running like trash on ultra + vram issues. I played like medium-high.
>n-n-no, you HAVE to play with me, MommySOFT says so!
So all the invaders are that one annoying moronic kid who kept trying to force other kids to spend time with him? Top kek. How much of a homosexual do you need to be that even FromSoft players want nothing to do with you?
is there a more succinct name for "ER seamless coop schizo"? this chucklefrick has been at it for a while, you'd thing he'd gain more noteriety
but i will concede, at least he stays in his own delusional little thread, and not just reflexively replies to every related thread
>can't play Sea of Thieves, Albion or Eve because there's no protection from Big Griefers destroying small griefers >same with Rust and the like >can't play DAOC and the like because they are dead >burned down New World's alpha with too much griefing and were exiled from the game >Runescape PK zones have been dead for years >the only dev that tolerates them is Fromsoft and maybe Ubisoft with The Division
Be nice to cowardly shitters that prey on casuals, they need a place to play and easy victims to sealclub.
>you will fold and summon online like the game intended
Not really? Most people that summon are IRL friends. No one wants to play with random because it brings incels like (you).
you think people that know how to mod a game with seamless coop wont just mod themselves to instantly kill a boss they get stuck on? Your cope is so pathetic, you will never play with anyone in this game ever again.
The coliseum broke it for a while, but to be fair, it was a matchmaking and multiplayer focused patch. WHICH DIED ANYWAY BECAUSE INVADERS ARE HUGE COWARDS TOO SCARED TO FIGHT PVPgayS, so much for all that work From put in.
and then after all of that the pvp gay build still won because he was using a backup spell that he could cast to damn near one shot the guy who was just trying to play normally.
>it was a matchmaking and multiplayer focused patch
that's exactly it. the mod only needs to be updated when the code it interacts with is changed. colliseum changed mp code, the expansion won't.
>matchmaking put into game so people of more or less equal skill are put together >suddenly every invader runs away since facing people with equal equipment and stats
I don't even play these games, but watching the drama unfold since this mod was released, and how absolutely pathetic the so called "challenge-seeking competitive types" really are, has been hilarious. >"Wuts the matter guize? Can't take a challenge? Maybe you need to git gud." >"I'm installing a mod that will keep try-hard sweatlords like you out." >*now can only play with other try-hards* >"FROMSOFT SAVE ME, THEY ARE RUINING MULTIPLAYER, REEEEEEEE!"
It gets funnier with every single thread.
Sea of Thieves had it even better, the griefers screamed so much they deleted the arena patch from the game. The griefers were so traumatized by being matched with other griefers they had a nuclear meltdown that resulted in the arena being deleted.
reminder, invading was never about "muh challenge muh pvp" it was always about finding ways to be a c**t online
granted, it's funny as frick to see and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's still being a c**t for the sake of being a c**t, you just gotta be honest about it instead of acting like you're not doing it for the sole purpose of acting a c**t to some rando online
This. It's Player Killing. It's Runescape's Wilderness.
Sometimes in the Wildy, you find a player who's ready for you. Some PKers will run away from that, because all they want is to PK lowbies trying to get prayer levels. Some PKers look forward to fights with better players. Souls PVP is literally the exact same shit.
Invaders get more and more homosexualy with each new game. My first like 5 encounters with invaders in elden ring was kino, every time they at least greeted me before we fought and 3 of the 5 actually had themes and funny gimmicks. One even showed me where a bonfire was and walked me back to my last bonfire before we fought and he killed me.
Immediately after that it was just all dogshit try hards running into mobs and glitching.
I swear moonveil and INTgays broke the minds of invaders permanently.
Peeve Peeverson has done irreparable damage to the Souls community. >The player killer didn't bow and lick my butthole before he attacked me, that's bad manners!!
I don't care about bowing but don't be a homosexual and run into mobs constantly while also twinking and shit.
If I wanted to experience gank city try hards I'd boot up DS3 again, to begin with I didn't even have a yellow with me I just had tongue on.
Never finished Elden Ring, farthest I got to was Leyndell Sewers-
Now I'm playing Deathless, died like a tard so many times but the game is fun af.
Any other handicaps like this that make the game more interesting? (No stupid shit like speedrunning)
its true and you know it. >"nooo, you cant just play with friends. you're supposed to get raided by my levelcap one shot build. STOP IT NO YOU CANT USE SEAMLESS CO-OP!"
= >"nooo, you're supposed to play by my rules. STOP IT NO YOU CANT JUST PLAY WITHOUT ME. IM TELLING!"
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why do people post about shit they know nothing about
3 months ago
Anonymous
i know enough to say that you're a coping gay who probably cried actual tears when he found out that people could use a mod to not play with you.
I mean, we've all seen this ten years ago. >lmao why aren't you prepared for my epic youtube build in The Burg
If you need kevlar and a machine gun to defeat a kid with a soft toy baseball bat, I guess it comes natural to you.
>still butthurt about being raped in undeadburg 14 fricking years ago
>Hidetaka Miyazaki's game
If Miyajima comes to my house with a letter signed by my country's government and tells me to delete it from Steam, sure, but until then, he has no power.
Wait people hate on seamless cause they can't be invaded? Isn't that obvious with it being a mod.the game is shit to play with friends without that mod.
>Wait people hate on seamless cause they can't be invaded?
No, opposite. It gives invaders less newbies and casuals to crush and forces them to be matchmade with people who enjoy being invaded who they hate.
I dont fear the red man. Playing with someone will be allways more fun. >BUT THE THRILL!
Enjoy the small ammount of runes for running +L1 for 10 minutes. Amazing rewards for Pvp.
wait? Why wait unless i was wanting to save money to get it on sale. If i want to play the dlc, ill play the dlc. If i want to play seamless ill play seamless, simple as.
Imagine thinking beating a video game under some self imposed rules gives you "spine" or is any sort of impressive feat. I'll do whatever the frick I want and mod my software how I please, thanks keep seething.
It's not even self-imposed rules on yourself, it's self-imposed rules on others, which is even more embarrassing.
haven't even tried the seamless co-op mod, I just think it's a good idea and I'm delighted it makes gays whose personality trait is "hardcore gamers" rage. Thinking beating a game is an accomplishment is absolutely pathetic, you'll realize when you grow up maybe.
Griefers calling themselves hardcore is funny given that we watch them scream and run like b***hes from real PVP players. New World's open world PVP couldn't work because griefers would run like hell from real PVPchads.
From soft pvp has never been good and is exclusively for the supremely mentally ill. As directly evidenced by the dude making this thread to seethe over and over and over
the solution has been in front of them the whole time. Just by a console, then theyll never have to worry about mods.
But suggest that to them and they have a million copes why they wont do that
>just buy a console if you want to play an online game as intended
Cheater shitters will do anything to try and deflect from the fact they can't play a game without cheating
you also get get anything when people dont want to play with your youtube one shot builds.
>he STILL thinks you need a guide to level vig
I mean, for such a fricking unironic moron maybe that's true
I don't care about pvp either way. Generally it's not very fun because of the lag and shit. Win or lose I never feel good after a fight.
It's not good enough to make putting up with the game very bad co-op systems worth it.
That said, I understand pvp's value to the game as a whole and I will come back if From introduces official seamless co-op to the game. If you redgays want people to come play with you again, ask From to fix co-op.
I literally have a driver level EAC bypass, godmode, 1 hit kill cheats just for p2p pvp cucks like you. When I do invite my friend I'll gladly shit on you. Mass replying homosexual.
based, hadn't played reforged in a while and it's fricking incredible how much they've added since the then. can't play without my sekiro block and dodge duck either, one of the main reasons i used it.
Honestly I don't understand why invasions has to be pure griefing, it was boring 30 years ago and it's boring now. I'd love designated areas where dying has no little to no penalty and your job would to be an absolute little shit to the host. Suicide bomb, aggro mobs, throw dung, rig traps near chests or items, disguise yourself and pop out when the host gets near, and in general be a huge nuisance.
That's a good point, fricking loved L4D's versus mode. You took turns being a nuisance to each other, and equal turn making progress, and being a little shit to the other side.
Everything you described is ultra griefing to an average pve only baby.
The whole game has zero death penalty.
Please, you guys already complain "there's too many checkpoints, we can't inflict enough penalties this way".
All of this would be fixed if From would just bring back 1v1 invasions. Forcing unbalanced PvP encourages garbage behaviors in invaders and kills the original spirit of invading. WIN!WIN!WIN! MOBA-brained zoomer gays also ruined it, but FROM enables them with it's shitty pvp systems.
Nah, 1v1 invasions are the exact same shit as everything else. Everyone talks about "le heckin' valid and friendly invasions" only to pull out a scraping spear or a Chaos weapon.
I'm a sologay and I'd rather play on a co-op only server in the event I wanted to play with others for a change, why on earth would I want to ever be on the same server as invaders?
Eh, invasions aren't even that common. Like, I've played every souls game on release and I've never been walled by the occasional invader. I think it's better to have them than to not.
The problem is just that co-op is terrible with official systems. If From could fix it, I'd love to play with invaders again. Invaders are kind of an unfortunate victim of Froms bad co-op design and the community having better alternatives.
it's simply because it wasn't as popular, you literally can't go 2 seconds without being invaded with the taunters tongue in elden ring, they literally don't care about the PVP or how it feels for players >dark souls, beat boss, go human, get invaded, die, etc >elden ring, YOU NEED TO CO-OP >elden ring, YOU NEED AN ITEM >elden ring, back to back invasions if you use 'the item' with no cooldown or organic nature to it like players actually want
might as well be fricking DUELING at this point with how much of a joke elden ring pvp is
Hahaha I remember butthurt incelvaders malding because I kept my friends (who never played souls before) away from their autism with seamless coop mod. We enjoyed an entire amazing playthrough without you. >d-doesnt matter, I will k-kill them when DLC drops
Lol no. I am playing DLC day 1. They are okay with waiting for mods to get updated.
REMINDER REDKEKS
ONLY PEOPLE WITH FRIENDS DESERVE TO HAVE FUN
LOSERS LIKE YOU DESERVE TO BE ALONE
ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT LMAO
Ive been playing with a buddy of mine who has never played a souls game split screen and its been a blast. Ass mad reds are so uninformed they probably believe split screen isnt possible in ER
Yeah, you can have as many players as seamless supports. But you need a pretty beefy pc to run more than 2 instances. I had to use the potato PC mod to get 60 fps with 2 instances. But if you have like a 3080+ you could probably run 4 player
Np, its super easy to set up as well and has some limited mod support. Just download Nucleus Coop and drag the little controller icons to where you want that part of the players screen to be.
I also run a mod that increases the font size, because it was a little hard to read stuff with a smaller screen size
>everyone laughing their asses off whenever someone aims the orbital strike beacon wrongly and orders a carpet bombing of the entire team in Helldivers
If you keep actual punishment for engaging in player killing to a minimum, no one will mind a bit of tomfoolery. Problem is then the PK crowd gets mad and won't play the game mode because their fun is derived from ruining the game for others.
How do we stop this endless cycle of people shitting on each other for no benefit at all?
Everybody will keep doing whatever the frick they want, a comment made by a couple strangers on the internet won't change anything.
Make invaders fight invaders, change the game mode to force half of them to be hosts to invade. There we go, infinite invasions with low queue times. Duelchads can duel, fight clubchads and fight club, hosts can co-op or solo. Let the invaders use their scummy stuff on each other.
It's literally some morons making the thread about seamless co-op so he can post his pvp webms over and over again despite no one wanting to talk about the PVP
he literally needs to be inflammatory as possible to keep his threads alive
i'd fricking LOVE this as a feature >"something is harboring an otherworldly presence..." >one mid-level enemy in a group is suddenly capable of dodging, parrying, etc.
it'd be real tough for the invader to succeed though
They could make it like the gravelord covenant in DS1 where new red enemies would spawn but it would be another players. Alternatively, they don't glow red and it becomes a game of "who isn't where they should be."
>hates casuals >hates having to fight multiple people because it's too hard(??? but aren't they casuals who suck?) >hates PVE >hates friends >spends all his time dabbing on scrubs in pvp because no one actually wants to pvp except homosexuals >won't do dueling because 'it isn't the same'(as in he can't dump on noobs who don't know pvp strats)
and then they continuously post bait threads about a co-op mod no one really uses, all so he can post his shit webms that all play out exactly the same way
can you guys please stop taking the bait, elden ring is normie slop at this point, it's made for casuals
>Black person obsessed with cuckoldry and cheating trying to give opinions to me
lol, lmao, go back to jerking off to men being emotionally humiliated or whatever the fetish entails you gay frick
>can't win and seethes about it >gets cucked from playing on day one just because I exist >desperately tries to cope and pretend to be superior at least somehow >fails miserably
Keep going you make me laugh
Does PC have hate mail or any form of communication? I feel like it's important. Multiplayer games got worse when everyone was made anonymous and mute.
Do people ever do it? I feel like I haven't seen any pictures/stories like these since the ps3 days. People just argue about meta and how much they hate each other now. Is this a fault the the industry changing or do gamers these days just lack souls?
>Allowing any fromsoft game to go online after the dark souls 3 fiasco >Purchasing a legal copy of elden ring with their body dysmorphia promoting type A/B
Fricking gays
It's good enough IMO.
There's just no other game that delivers on it. >Sword and Sorcery game >Tons of dress up >Build variety >Action combat >Can do arena or attack people in the open world
I'm not gonna play a fricking MMO.
If a game exactly like dark souls where the characters weren't ugly and the combat was only a tiny bit better came out I'd probably never look back at Souls again.
Nobody wants to deal with invaders when they're just with their friend. If you wanted to PvP you would go to one of the hotspots for it, but instead you seethe over people who wouldn't play with you anyways.
I wish they did more creative blending of PvE and PvP, like a Looking Glass Knight in DS2. Stuff like this is fun for both kinds of players - personally I love when the game spices up your walkthrough with dynamic elements like this.
Maybe even some covenant that lets invaders spawn AS monsters in the level? This way you also get rid of the cancerous metabuilds.
DS3 has the princess defender boss which is my favorite PVP experience of any FROM game and people still complain like fricking crazy because I actually know what I'm doing and I hard wall pretty much anyone who has to fight me as the boss.
Not impossible, but most people fell flat because they brought their "I'll just cheese the boss" kind of builds, which don't work on a player that can heal.
My STR/FAI regen build I made SPECIFICALLY to lounge around and protect the princess (she's just sleeping) trounces PVEgays.
>Let invaders spawn as monsters
Doom Eternal was going to do this but they couldn't figure out a way to get people to stop skipping entire segments which would completely frick up the invasion matchmaking so they dropped the idea entirely. What a fricking shame.
souls PvPers are truly the most insufferable homosexuals in existence. not a single soul gives a frick about PvP, not even From gives a frick. they threw a bone to you gays with the arena and called it good. Souls PvP is a literal afterthought and anyone who takes it seriously needs a fricking bullet through their skull
I fricking invaded someone DAY TWO who had Moonveil. So did his phantom.
Just because YOU are too moronic to get the good weapons doesn't mean everyone else is.
I'll never understand why the gankers think everyone should be forced to play with them. You're a ganker because you didn't have friends to summon in the first place.
>redcuck keeps screaming and crying that people use a mod to get multiplayer that isn't from 2009 >starts damage controlling that the older games have mods to let invaders just cheat and invade anywhere without moving
pointing out the double standard invadercucks have
its just like how in the older games invadergays cried about how "unfair" it was when a blue invaded them during an invasion
Just playing devil's advocate here, but how is modding in global matchmaking cheating?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>wex dust is a cheat for ds3
So what advantage does it provide to the person using it?
Or what challenge does it remove from the game?
>breaking the game for your own benefit >not cheating
the coop mod on the other hand updates mechanics and makes enemies and bosses stronger
3 months ago
Anonymous
>My mod? Good! >You mod? Bad!
Grug very smart.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yes, now go back to pick berry, berry picker
3 months ago
Anonymous
Grug paint himself red and hit you with big rock from scary place YOU not go yet!
3 months ago
Anonymous
You didn't answer the question. >So what advantage does wex dust provide to the person using it? >Or what challenge does it remove from the game?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>cheater seething when called out
3 months ago
Anonymous
My mod enables me to interact with the game more.
Your mod actually removes an aspect of the game you find too difficult.
If anything, you're the one who's cheating.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>cheater is still trying to cope
sorry redgay, your mod lets you cheat by not having to do anything to invade anywhere
co-op mod fixes multiplayer and breaks invasions as a side effect
3 months ago
Anonymous
I know this Black person's trolling but I do wonder if there's anyone who genuinely thinks that seamless co-op "fixes" multiplayer as though they know better than the original developers.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>no mounts >walls spawn everywhere >have to summon and re-summon over and over >summoning and invading can just fail to connect
What is it with you homosexuals and defending From still using 2009 shit?
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's 2024 bro. If the devs didn't want it to be this way, they'd have made it a different way. FROM clearly wanted you to do the co-op piece by piece, not wholesale. The connection problems are gay as frick though.
3 months ago
Anonymous
good thing mods exist to fix the mistakes lazy devs keep making
3 months ago
Anonymous
PvE homosexuals are so addicted to the smell of their own farts they think the way the game was designed was "mistakes by lazy devs" that they, the enlightened ones, can "fix".
3 months ago
Anonymous
cope
I'm gonna laugh when the next game they make cucks reds even harder
3 months ago
Anonymous
You mean like they have the past 4 games? People will still do red content. PvE gays are the ones that have to mod content OUT of the game in order to enjoy it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
PVE players mod the game to fix From being lazy
invasions breaking are a by-product
one of these days you should actually read what the mod's page
3 months ago
Anonymous
>invasions breaking are a by-product >tee-hee!
3 months ago
Anonymous
cope Black person
learn to read
3 months ago
Anonymous
you dont need a mod to turn off invasions moron
Yes yes, we know you got yourself a conveniently named easy mode that doesn't hurt your feefees when you install it
3 months ago
Anonymous
>turns off internet >Y-y-your using the easy c-c-cheat!!!
god damn you are moronic lmfao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>uses every opportunity outside of the game possible to avoid invasions
Keep coping, shitter
3 months ago
Anonymous
>playing online
you did not beat the game
3 months ago
Anonymous
>stops paying for internet >EASY CHEAT WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
i knew invaders are dumb. but were reaching single digit iq levels here
3 months ago
Anonymous
>10 thousand excuses >just to hide from the bad red man
3 months ago
Anonymous
>has ATT internet >EAZY CHAAAAT
kek do you have to wear a helmet to not smash your head into things anon?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You would not be playing seamless coop in that situation lol.
3 months ago
Anonymous
unless you were playing splitscreen. But regardless you wouldn't be getting onvaded either way lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
>play offline >play solo >u-u-u-uu-u-u-u-u-u-ur cheating!!!!!1!
3 months ago
Anonymous
you dont need a mod to turn off invasions moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
>still fails to answer the question >seethes when his "gotcha" moment is nullified
I have a feeling you're quite literally just making shit up. I've been playing Souls since Demon's and nobody ever complained about Blues, in fact, blue phantoms are usually comically moronic monkeys.
redgays who cried about moonveil fail to see the irony of them telling fresh installs to run around the map and grab a specific set of weapons right out the gate just so that they can stand a chance against invaders.
It's their assumption that all players are doing this, even if it's not likely within their invasion level range they're playing inside of. Which is wild to me, because the people who do this shit are also gonna kill Greyoll and outlevel the sort of reds doing shit like this one anon who's very proud of his homework in here.
I can't wait to test out all the new weapons and spells in pvp, I really hope high monk is fun and not total trash like it is in Sekiro.
I also hope there are some unannounced features relating to multiplayer, like forest invasions and player controlled bosses. Maybe even horses in multiplayer and a higher player cap in some areas.
On the note of player controlled bosses, I think radagon might have been one in alpha builds of the game. I invade a lot and there still is a very rare chance that you end up inside the radagon boss fight. If you do you can't see the boss and you can't interact with the players, but the gateway for players to get in is in the code which is interesting.
You know the big appeal is that you can actually treat Elden Ring as a open world game when playing in coop.
Since this topic seems dear to your heart, how would you like it if you could still be invaded even with the mod. They could be anywhere in the world and youd get kicked out after ten minutes if you cant find them.
As an invader, I'd do it. If I could use the horse, and still get the 3 fingers, absolutely that sounds good. Especially if there could be more than one invader.
The game is not even hard to begin with their are a billion ways to break the game seriously Elden ring is one of the easier souls games and the only way invaders have ever made any souls game hard is if they are a hacker and fricks up your save the big problem is most invaders want to camp a early game location with a minimaxed pvp meta build that outclasses anything you could ever get at that point in the game sure I can win against the shitters but its a tedious slog and its better to just jump off a cliff or just play offline then deal with them seriously if you want pvp go the the coliseum or use taunter's tongue but sadly most reds are to much of a coward to actually pvp with people who actually want to pvp because it increases their chance of getting their ass kicked or and would rather pvp on baby mode and attack people who don't know how to pvp or don't know how to really play the game yet.
reminder that people have been complaining about griefers preying on pve players since the first MMOs that even allowed pvp.
they have NEVER been welcome.
again, you're still ignoring the point
pve builds =/= pvp builds.
you're preying on people that optimize for pve content by making builds that explicitly prey on the weaknesses of those builds. you dont actually have any interest in real pvp, you just want free kills.
>you dont actually have any interest in real pvp, you just want free kills.
if they did then theybwould play a game actually focused around pvp like Mordhau, but they get their shit pushed in with that game and come crawling back so they can stomp fresh installs with rivers of blood
The only time it's been unacceptable has been I think Blade and Soul where one of the first things to do was you were forced to do a quest where you had to put on PVP gear to finish the quest. So your level 5 ass was getting camped by level 20-100 players from the enemy faction until someone of your faction came in to get them outta there. It made the game memorable where I basically had to scramble out of the first town as fast as I could, skipping dialogue like a madman, but frick right off with that shit.
I'm playing Dark Souls for the time with my gf and i can't help but feel like the co op system is needlessly obtuse >need to use a humanity to summon someone in the first place >where you can actually place a summon sign is inconsistent so you'll sometimes have to play through huge swaths of an area before you can even summon the other person (like blighttown and the place with the annoying scythe ghosts) >if you die as the host you're booted back to the last bonfire and now have to scour for another humanity before you can even summon again
Do they streamline this at all in the later games?
Elden Ring gets out of this entirely by having it be one of the first items you can find in the open world, with having the item be the only prerequisite
>he manages to get the youtube build PVP shitter down to being one hit away >youtube build PVP shitter pulls out a two hit kill that he could have very easily done if he just face tanked
so skillful bro. maybe another kill against a pve player will make your dad come back.
moron, vigour is the only stat that was leveled on this character. This is what you call the "youtube pvp build", implying you can only think of leveling that stat if you have some toober tell you to do that.
Leveling your health stat first has been the best course of action ever since DES.
Stop being a brainlet. It's been 15 years.
>uh yeah bro level the stat you dont need for PVE because my favorite youtuber told me how to beat people who build for PVE
3 months ago
Anonymous
Let me guess, you think mountaintops of the giants is the worst location with the needless difficulty spike.
3 months ago
Anonymous
bro just dodge.
then again, seeing your webms and how often you take damage even with your meta PVP builds its no wonder why you think anywhere has a "sudden difficulty spike"
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well then make your own pvp wembs of you never taking damage.
>all those buffs >even frickin boiled crabs >all at low level invasions
How do you stop your controlling slipping from your sweaty hands? Lad, just go do pvp duels.
but surely the wait would be worth it.
you'll be going up against people who know what they're doing instead of random fresh installs...
oh wait. thats not why you invade other people. you just want free kills.
same as all the other raiders who raid instead of do dedicated pvp
3 months ago
Anonymous
I tried waiting for 2 hours the other day, never got a match.
Why would I keep waiting when I can get couple of dozens invasions and TT duels?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>why would i wait for a high quality match when i can instead get free kills?
dunno, anon. truly is a mystery.
bet you also camp spawnpoints in team v team games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, I don't want to waste my time waiting.
Come to use TT in limgrave if you want to try and kick my ass. Invaders seethe and run from "true" pvpers after all?
But I know you won't.
>invasion shitter goes against someone ready to PVP >gets his shit kicked in >"NO NO NO WAHHHHH OVERLEVELED!!! STOP PLAYING THE GAME FOR HIM"
kek, like clockwork.
Spitegays rejoice, I lose this one.
Notice how I do the exact same damage numbers you Black folk were complaining is "half" of the hp bar of a viglet.
This is what having VIG does.
>wonder why no one likes dealing with invaders >keeps posting webms of a level 20 with every buff in the game and 99 of all consumables taking 0 damage from hits and two hitting people
>99 of all consubables >crab
Really Black person? >two hitting people
Level vig moron and I won't be able to 2-hit you.
Spitegays rejoice, I lose this one.
Notice how I do the exact same damage numbers you Black folk were complaining is "half" of the hp bar of a viglet.
This is what having VIG does.
Machine Games are homosexual Swedes who can't make a decent FPS game to save their life. This felt like it was made for console Black folk.
>double nagi is unbea-
>scarlet rot has to cou-
>status efffects are overpo-
Just level VIG
>coping morons trying to ignore this because they can't produce an answer to seeing something that completely and utterly broke them being defeated
leveling VIG trivializes the PvE
My PvE experience is more important to me than PvP
>leveling vig trivialises pve
>but coop doesn't
I always do my first playthroughs solo.
I play co-op to have fun with my friends on subsequent playthroughs. At that point the challenge of the game has been overcome and VIG is even more pointless.
I don't do VIG on first play through to preserve challenge
I don't do VIG in co-op because I don't need it.
PvP isn't even in the equation, I have fun enough in the game without it.
NTA. Not leveling vigor is moronic and shows you have no idea how the game functions, meaning you will invariably get completely assfricked the moment you step outside of Limgrave. Until you are over B scaling, your weapon is gaining on about half a point of damage per stat point. Incredible stuff.
This means that, at level 60-70, the average level for Lleyndell, where you have around C scaling, if you go for your 'non-cringe based low VIG build', if you have 50 mainstat you are gaining a grand total of twenty-five damage per hit. It's unironically not worth it to level main stats unless you are a caster, because caster scaling goes through the roof way faster than melee builds.
You're not showing your skill by not leveling vigor, you're showing you fundamentally don't comprehend how the game works. Only casters get real priority on their main stat because it gates huge amounts of utility and spells away from them if they DON'T level it.
tl;dr you're dumb as frick and probably whine when you get onetapped by a counter hit
I don't do math when I level up, I put points n whatever feels good at the time.
And for what it's worth, I do actually put points in VIG, it's just slowly, over the whole playthrough. I usually get it to around 20 in Limgrave and just leave it there until around Altus platau where I slowly get it to around 30. I then get to about 40 before stopping by endgame. So really I do level it, I just don't immediately pump it to fricking 60 or whatever PvPdudes want me to have it at 2 hours into the game. My early game is all about getting endurance and weapon/spell prerequisites out of the way first, VIG is last to get the bump.
If you fight me at endgame I'll be much more evenly matched and it'll be more fun.
My favorite invasion VIG check was the one-eyed shield
It's not a good option but it does enough damage to one-shot bad players who don't expect it and dump VIG, unfortunately by now people actually bother to
>pokeberd+offstoc
>bnb aow "ooouh I gotta reapply my buff ouuh I'm nothing without my buff"
>has to sweat his life off and make full use of his twinking kit to stand his ground
>against a dual nagi phantom so fricking stupid he straight up do 1/10th of the damage he normally should
>host doesn't even engage, invader would have spontaneously combusted had it been an actual 2v1
You don't even realize you're part of the rot you despise
>"twinking kit"
Shit you pick up by riding a horse?
Lmao. Explore the game Black person, perhaps you will find something useful. And perhaps you should at least test out what you find instead of forgetting about it forever.
nothing personel, kid
wolfenstein youngblood has co-op or well it's more like co-op only because you ll have the ai play the other character anyway.
do the other wolfensteins have co-op?
Coop, both players can control a twin, and no none of the other Wolfensteins had coop
>NOOOOOOO!!! YOU NEED TO PLAY WITH ME ME ME ME!!!
>WHY DONT YOU LIKE MY ONE SHOT RAID BUILDS?!?!
Basically this. All soulslike pvp goes from soul to pure cancer about two to three weeks after release
>play co-op with friend
>find dungeon in overworld
>sever out, sprint to it myself, enter, then summon again
>have to do everything twice
>have to do this process everytime we find something
I don't even care about invaders, I like the pvp as long as they arent rotpot metashitters, but holy frick is fromsoft incompetent at implementing multiplayer
This, ER's multiplayer is so fricking autistic, I don't understand how morons defend it.
because they want to raid people who just started playing the game for easy kills.
>But I was not preapared!
You have more people, but you will continue to play a victim
im sorry that nobody wants to play with you, anon.
maybe try not preying on people who just started playing the game?
there are dedicated pvp areas, you know.
I'm sorry you are so scared and so skilless you can't fricking press forward and then R1 to hit the invader
>you deal just under a third of his healthbar per hit
>he can barely deal 20% of yours
>AND you have health regen
this is exactly what im talking about, anon
just under half i mean, not third.
how is this supposed to be fair?
>B-but the percenteage of a healthbar
moron, we're doing the exact same level of damage to each other. The difference is that I leveled my health and he didn't. My weapons are +0.
Stop being allergic to leveling vigour and perhaps you will stop being invaded by "overpowered invaders who kill me in 2 hits"
not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players because there are actually strategies to dodge around bosses and enemies.
why should he suddenly be expected to level a near useless stat because the red gay WILL facetank everything he can throw out?
>not leveling vigor works in normal gameplay for good players
>"good" players enter the snow area
>AIIIEEEE!!! Difficulty Spike! Why would you do this fromsoft!
You're playing in Weeping Peninsula, which is always under rain, granting your lightning damage a big boost against the invader. The invader hasn't been to Altus to pick up ashes of war and golden seeds, doesn't have physick tears to improve damage, probably isn't wearing a soreseal to gain 20 levels' worth of flat defense that applies before the percentage reductions that matter when the numbers are as small as you're playing with. This is just a bully build, and I'm sure you'll justify it by saying "I was using taunter's tongue, he chose to invade, he should deal with it" but doing stuff like this to just farm people who have no chance of fighting back is boring. It's not evil or cruel or lame, it's just boring. Why compete when the outcome is predetermined? It's not a competition at all at that point, you're just wasting time for yourself and your opponents.
Because the outcome isn't predetermined. You don't know who's in the world you're invading.
It could be two guys with straight swords who just bought Elden Ring.
It could be one guy with basic gear and two guys with endgame gear.
It could be three guys with endgame gear just chillin' in Limgrave.
I would wager that fully 95% of all players you're eligible to invade do not also take 15-20 hours to reach lategame zones and get all the golden seeds, sacred tears, and cracked out ashes of war or equipment they need to serve as an extremely low level gank squad. Near the mid or late game, maybe that's more the case, but at weapon upgrade level 0 most people can't be assed to play like that. And if that's not the overwhelming majority of who you're up against, your point strikes me as moot. You're planning around someone you intend to encounter 1/20 times when invading, and just glossing over the 19/20 that makes up the rest of the time you're spending bullying toddler Tarnished.
Except in my experience, it's swapped. I very rarely encounter players casually going through the game. 1/20 times it's just some guy. 19/20 times it's someone who has all the golden seeds, sacred tears, best equipment and wiki-fed guide builds, plus one clueless host.
The issue of Dark Souls invasions since the very beginning is people who don't actually play invasion content think they know how it goes and they don't. You get your information about how souls invasions go from other people complaining about them on steam, Ganker and reddit, and you think that's just how it is.
Have you considered just trying it for yourself?
I like your strawman of me, but I see no evidence corroborating your experience other than these sick owns against mostly early game players and one guy with double cross naginata who's playing like ass. You're just out and out wrong. I play Elden Ring to PvP at a variety of level ranges and make a new character to enjoy for a few weeks every month or two since the game came out. It's possible your confirmation bias of a bad experience with these sweatlords is outweighing your ability to recall standard hosts and summons, but you're also acting to some degree in bad faith about the nature of your builds you're bringing to low level zones.
It's still a 120 AR buff at basically no FP cost that also comes with a sick combo move. Even with the percentage reduction damage from rain, you're doing far more than baseline damage for players who haven't whipped around to the back of Redmane Castle or up to Altus Plateau.
Post some PVP footage then.
When I toss a bloody finger at level 60 and get put in Limgrave I dunno what you want me to say about that.
This dude's worse than a fricking PvE only gay, he's "muh honorabru invader" Peeve Peeverson Black person lmao
I bet you bow before every fight
I don't, I'm mostly out for blood, but I'm not trying to compete with someone who stands no chance of fighting back. I'm not here to be honorable, I'm here to have fun. Shitting on people who stand no chance of winning isn't fun. It's boring. Winning a hard-fought 2v1 against people who are nearly as skilled as me or using the environment to knock off someone trying to rush me down is exciting. Having two to four times the talisman slots of the people I invade, twice the physical % reduction, and twice the damage sounds like a power fantasy better fulfilled by a musou game than souls PvP.
>It's still a 120 AR buff at basically no FP cost that also comes with a sick combo move.
>sick combo move.
Dude. Come on. Who the frick gets hit by it. It's a slow ass "I raise my sword in slow motion and do a stomp you can roll out of or interrupt".
If you talk about firestrike then sure. It's a good one for a reason. But it's still easy to avoid and you can actually jump over it entirely for a counter.
Was talking about flame strike since it came up as a counterargument to the lightning strike always being such a damage boost. Lightning strike not for the buff's sake is only good if the opponent is a total dunce or you're doing weird incantation stuff that allows for combos out of the boulder throw or O Flame.
Black person, you get 10-12 if you just ride around with your horse and pick every golden seed on the world map.
You get 13 if you go to the legacy dungeons. All that without ever stepping into the snow area.
>why are you complaining about my one shot build?
>all you have to do is use an external guide to beat that game!
>he needs an external guide to ride around the world and spot little golden trees
moron, people have been doing that day one because they can.
The fact you're so braindead you bash your head against margit as your first boss doesn't mean everyone else is the same.
The issue is people who play exclusively PvE and think they're hot shit are actually really bad at the game. Turns out Souls games aren't as hard as people think, and you can win at them fairly easily without getting all of the items.
So they think someone who does have all of the items is a tryhard or some nonsense. They see someone with a strong weapon and assume it's some endgame weapon because their weapon isn't that strong, when it absolutely could've been. Most players inventories are filled with weapons that are half-upgraded because they're just slapping titanite shards on random shit as they get it.
And honestly that's fine, you can play however you want. But especially in the Souls games (I haven't played Elden Ring), if you just upgrade ONE weapon and actually explore, you can be extremely powerful very early on.
>upgrade base weapon
>becomes obsolete once I get any boss weapon or by the time I get the spear in Sen's
>by the time you get real upgrades you're nearly half way done with the game
eh.
In Dark Souls 3 you have access to Vordt's Hammer after the first boss.
Vordt's Hammer is completely viable for the entire game and is a monster in PVP.
If you just choose not to use Vordt's Hammer that's fine, but having it so you can smack an invader around is a good idea.
Does Elden Ring not have a Vordt's Hammer equivalent? Like I said, I haven't played it, but surely there's a weapon you can get early on that's perfectly viable for PvE and PvP. Souls 1 had the Zweihander, for instance.
What's the Zweihander of Elden Ring?
>becomes obsolete
No it doesn't.
You just get a new toy with a different moveset, not a direct upgrade.
Starting club by all definitions is shittier than reinforced, Gargoyle Halberd is a direct upgrade to base. What are you talking about? Not all weapon types are linear in what better objectively, Zwie is a popular one and you get it early as frick. But no one sticks with a base dagger or one-two hander, that never happens. There's always incentive to use something better besides gear.
>didn't get a weapon on his way to gargoyles
You had several oportunities to get spears, claymore, srtaight swords, an uchigatana and more.
You have this opportunity the moment you first end up in firelink shrine.
I was comparing an early halberd to that halberd, Sen's spear > base spear by having lightning on it, Zwei and Claymore are virtually the same, except swing speed and Zwei rapes poise, Falcion rapes straight swords, Washing Pole is basically Uchi but a bit longer.
You're seeing the forest for the trees.
Early halberd is just a slightly different moveset to gargoyles.
It's perfectly viable.
Zwei and Claymore are entirely different weapon categories.
These people are in Limgrave and Weeping Peninsula and Liurnia. They are not just zone hopping to get all the consuambles and upgrades they can right off the bat because that is not how the average player plays this game, especially if they're co-oping with their bros. Nothing about the situation you're proposing is in line with normal gameplay.
In a lot of cases the people you're invading are within a fistful of levels of starting the game. Even if they leveled vigor, they probably still wouldn't be as stacked as you, and you'd go from 2-3 shotting as with the video at Church of Elleh to 3-4 shotting instead.
I dunno man when I play open world games I just kinda run around for a while and grab shit. I can't be the only person that plays like that.
It's much less convenient to do in Elden Ring specifically when you're co-oping with your friends because you lose Torrent and have to walk everywhere and constantly resummon them. I doubt most people go pick everything up and then start co-oping with their friends after all that unless they're on wildly different schedules.
Right I forgot the premise of this horrible thread was specifically co-op.
Real talk though, do you guys REALLY have NO fun getting invaded when you're with friends? You don't have fun trying to kill the invader, or having Tom and Jerry style chases around a castle with some random red douchebag? You just get angry? I don't get it.
When I played co-op it was annoying to not have it be seamless but I don't think I would enjoy seamless co-op without the invaders. The invaders were fun.
These people remind me of kids in school who didn't like tag because they didn't enjoy getting chased. All the other kids laughed and had a great time but there was always one kid who screamed and cried during tag.
In large part I think having experience with invaders in DS1-3 helps acclimate people to the fun of the experience. In Elden Ring that it's specifically confined to when you're summoning or intentionally letting someone in at no benefit/cost to yourself makes it weirder. In 1 and 2 you'd have to be human, but that was semi-common for players wanting to Kindle or avoid max HP penalties. For 3 it happened anytime you were embered which was obviously a net benefit to the player for the big HP boost and because it happened after every boss kill, even without the consumables. All of this is to say nothing of covenants providing fun incentives for people to actually engage with the content even if they're not PvPheads like you or me.
I am constantly swapping between fire and lightning weapons because fun.
Rain constantly diminishes my fire damage but I don't see you complaining about it in the videos where there is rain or puddles of water.
This looks terrible. How can Fromtards stomach this shit?
You still have an Uber PVP build. Not a lot of skill involved in the webms you're posting
>uber pvp build
>level VIG and chug a regen flask
Wow, so hard to build!
moron, your winrate will go up dramatically if you stop going for your damage stats first
>YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!
>I NEED TO TWO SHOT PEOPLE WHO ARE LEVELING FOR THE CONTENT IN THE GAME AND NOT TO COUNTER MY BUILD COPIED FROM YOUTUBE!!!
no you dont.
>I am so moronic I need YOUTUBE to tell me to level health
You don't even get any fricking damage from your offensive stats until you upgrade your weapons to at least +15
>LET ME TWO SHOT YOU!
Level vig and I can't two-shot you, moron.
>YOU HAVE TO BUILD AROUND MY ONE SHOT BUILD ON YOUTUBE AND NOT BUILD FOR THE CONTENT IN THE GAME!
>IF YOU DONT, I'LL TWO SHOT YOU!
pass.
>I NEED YOUTUBE TO LEVEL VIG
>I JUST DON"T GET HIT
Then don't be a shit player and don't actually get hit
the problem is that you have an endgame build capable of facetanking while the version of me in question just downloaded the game yesterday.
>"endgame build"
>lvl 20 with no weapon upgrades and gear from the first area of the game and shit you can quickly access if you just ride your horse around
Nice attempt at an excuse, but I know you have been whining about it for past 15 years
>its not engame bro!
>i just rushed endgame weapons from the start so that i can fight fresh installs who are using sticks and stones in comparison!
>if you just ride your horse around
Almost nobody is autistic enough to just go riding around the map grabbing overpowered items just to grief other players. You want people to play around your autism but they won't since there is a much better alternative.
It's funny you kind remind me of people that want to force others to use their pronouns and shit like that. Cope and dilate.
>moron, your winrate will go up dramatically if you stop going for your damage stats first
You might find this hard to comprehend but what if my goal is just playing the game with friends instead of trying to counter some butthole whose entire purpose is ruining the game for others?
>but what if my goal is just playing the game with friends
then this game is not for you and you should go play borderlands or some other casualslop built exactly for people like you
>he thinks that soulslop is actually hard and not just janky
oh no no no no no.
Except it is for me and I had fun just playing with friends for literally hundreds of hours.
And now I'm having even more fun realizing that by me literally existing and playing with my friend I cause an immeasurable amount of butthurt to tryhard gays like you.
NTA but I played it co-op with my friend and had a great time the whole playthrough. We're gonna do a second run, when we get closer to the DLC release and try other build combos out.
>Invade
>Cry victim
Afk farmers are so based frick invaders
I don't really understand what the flex here is supposed to be. Regen tear in physick + icon shield means that anyone with unupgraded weapons basically can't hurt you. You're playing an invincible godmode build to on-level players. If they have an overleveled phantom where downscaling isn't working properly, sure, that's whatever, but you're coming into Limgrave with Lightning Slash making your weapon's AR literally double what anything they can get their hands on can put out. This isn't some sick own against PvE players, it's just sad.
>If they have an overleveled phantom
They almost always do. In my experience, the times when there's two dudes just playing casually is far, far less than a guy with two phantoms who have Moghs spear and shit.
At any level below 50, which I assume the anon in those videos is at, I've found that more than 3/4 of every invasion has two bros at about the same level. Closer to 70 or 90 is where high level bullgoats come into play for most of my PvP builds, and at the "meta" levels ~125, 137, 150, or 200 is where the max level dudes start coming into play. But that's just my experience, and it also differs the further out from a sale or any big hype around the game happens, where only the gankiest of squads are playing instead of people just progressing.
2 players can basically stunlock a single player if they keep the pressure up.
The guy had an innate bleed weapon which is unsurprisingly effective.
The point here is that they had all the chances and they were doing great with timed blocks where I was doing no damage with the "overpowered" buffed weapon.
Bro you're hitting them for like 1/8 of their max HP through a shield under lightning buff. Weapons at the early game have 120 AR and you're swinging something with 270 via lightning infusion and lightning buff. Flat defenses are still low so they're taking a truckload of damage, but you're trying to justify it by saying this guy has a bleed weapon with a shit moveset that you let yourself get hit with 6 times in a row, and that makes it an even playing field.
Nevermind, if you really struggle this much with fundamentals and understanding the power scale of someone with full flasks versus two dudes at Church of Elleh, you probably do need every advantage you can get to win.
>Bro you're hitting them for like 1/8 of their max HP through a shield under lightning buff.
If 58 damage is 1/8 of the max hp, who's fault is that for not leveling vig?
>but 2 dudes are weaker
No. Nothing ever beats numbers advantage.
Those guys just needed to keep the pressure up instead of letting me juggle them one by one and they would have won.
Case in point, mage tries to irritate me and draw aggro, knowing that targeting a caster first is always a good idea, letting his friend get to me and do damage.
If their 3rd friend didn't fight agheel, they would most likely win.
You walk into like every hit, no shit you need all those flasks and that regen and the weapon buffs to do anything.
That is the entire point of that build.
I also enjoy doing shit like this
REEEE THERE WAS NO CHALLENGE THERE IT WASN'T A NAILBITING KERFUFFLE HOW COULD YOU DO THIS
Like clockwork
Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty boring video. If it excites you, I'm glad for you and hope you keep having fun.
Well, here's an entire montage of this build if you like it so much
i dont think he's going to beat the youtube build shitter allegations...
Black person I made the video
>advertising on Ganker.
>that ambush at 10:55
kino
Got any cool builds that aren't designed to oneshot?
This one is designed to endure OLP's not to oneshot, by taking advantage of weapon downscaling.
I know it may not look like it to you since "oh muh gawd you do half the health bar to people who don't level vig and wear radagon's soreseal" but still.
>designed to endure overleveled phantoms
>duelist sign or taunter's tongue to get a red in
I don't understand.
I do both, if you didn't notice.
TT dueling is specifically to make webms for morons who say "you only invade unprepared noobs who can't fight back" so they shut the frick up.
You do recognize that unprepared noobs can also be invaders, right? Varre has a whole quest that pipelines unprepared noobs into the worlds of others. Not every invader is doing what you're doing. In fact, I'd say most of them aren't from my own taunter's tongue playthrough experience.
Yeah, this quest also happens to be located after 2 +8 weapon injections to your inventory. You can't invade a +0 if you ever touched a +8
Many people won't get the +8 banished knight halberd for not doing the quest at Castle Morne, and many more might not ever encounter Rogier in Roundtable Hold after he moves in. You're basing every assumption, as before, on this idea that people are trying to take every single advantage they can and doing everything fully to completion before they start invading and failing to recognize that some people just bumble their way forward and stumble across shit. While there are going to be a lot of people who self-select out of your pool, it doesn't mean it's empty at all.
Also you can get to Liurnia without ever going toward either of the npcs who are responsible for those +8 injections by sheer happenstance, not just people fervently rushing to Varre's lap.
You don't need to do the quest at the castle, he just moves and starts invading you.
Also if you tell rogier you killed godrick he gives you his +8 rapier.
you're right
at the end of the day it's gonna be laggy shit netcode gameplay so why even bother "fixing" it
Why do people whine about the mod/mod creators, and not FROM for still using their dogshit co-op system. If it was built in seamless, invading would be possible.
>walls off so much shit
>de-summons
>can't use mount
So fricking dumb
>can't use mount
this is the only one that makes sense tbh, hitting even normal enemies can be annoying as frick, nevermind trying to hit another player sprinting around erratically as frick. I want something like seamless co-op to be integrated into the game with invasions, but mounting has to stay out of it, at least when the invader is physically close to the host/phantom.
Give invaders an item that domes up like Evolve, fixed. They already get an item to reposition closer IIRC.
Yeah my friend and I accidentally found the storm veil skip when we were still noobs and we didn't know what the frick the big wall was and just assumed we weren't allowed to go that way and then we forgot about it. The coop walls are fricking moronic and also totally pointless.
I do blame From for not improving their multiplayer from game to game, ER just has the bare essentials copy pasted from previous games with the addition of a poorly coded teleport that ignores the vertical axis.
Modding it in isn't a good solution however since it splits up the playerbase which only hurts the base game. The message from players is clear, they want better multiplayer. From doesn't seem to listen though, otherwise they would do something about it in the DLC. Frick them.
Sincerely hope the mod author is based enough to choose to not update it. Someone will eventually ofc, but it would be nice to delay it as long as possible.
All this mod did was destroy actual co-op in the game. I can still get regular invasions, I can very rarely ever get summoned. Everybody but the people playing the mod lost.
I fricking hate israelites. I wish there was a wolfenstien-like game where they're the enemy.
No game like the game of life.
Why not make it? If you don't have the skill for making a game from scratch you could always settle for a Doom WAD?
>LET ME WHIFF PARRYS ON YOU WAAAAAAAA
I'm doing a co-op player right now and we tried to summon each other, but it wasn't working immediately despite us doing the exact same shit we remembered doing at launch. We tried for about ten minutes and then shrugged it off and went to seamless.
We actually wanted to have invasions and the like so it was sad, but it would've been a massive pain in the ass to resummon for absolutely everything.
>Seething for 2 years straight because nobody likes you
>Everyone else is broken
Wolfenstein 2 sucked
I cannot tell if that is real or not
>not invited to "friends" houses
>not invited to irl parties
>not invited to events
>not invited to dates
>not invited to video games
>this last one is somehow the final straw
>"you MUST play with ME!!!"
Sorry op
but you aren't invited to my elden ring game
>june
>dlc
>seamless easy mode breaks
Looks like I am.
Your only option will be to cuck yourself and play offline.
or get this, they could just wait and not play it right as it comes out because they aren't homosexuals who ride the wave like you
>cucking yourself even harder
Kek
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, I HAVE NO FRIENDS AND I NEED TO PLAY IT AS IT COMES OUT JUST LIKE MY DUDES ON Ganker
>I NEED THEM, I CAN'T DISCUSS THE GAME UNLESS IT'S ON Ganker RIGHT AFTER RELEASE
this is you
one would hope, but I know better than to expect that level of self control around here. Gamers are the lowest level of consumers humanity has produced yet.
why play offline? Coop is terrible in the base game, so unless they plan on adding in solo invasions again i dont see the issue
Man it must be a sad fate to be a from drone. Could you imagine not having a single friend
>gets fixed hours after the DLC release*
>hours
Anon, small colloseum update completely made the mod unplayable for the whole month.
a small update later in the life cycle of a game is far more likely to go unfixed than a DLC that brings back almost every single person that played the base game
Whatever lets you cope
>endgame weapons
Halberd is stormveil.
Estoc is first merchant in lurnia (just ride to it)
Dismounter drops from vikings in limgrave
Try again homosexual.
>NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY WITH ME UNLESS THEY ARE FORCED TO! The Thread
>h-hehe w-whatever lets you c-cope!
Oh the irony
>I CAN'T win!
>I HAVE to cheat!
Lol, Lmao. Just press R1
>every single video he posted is him using meta pvp shit to frick over player that just started playing the game
You are the perfect example of why this mod is so popular. Nobody wants to play with buttholes like you.
>On no! He points out how shit I am at the game and PROVES it with his own braindead gameplay!
>a-butthole!
Seethe more zeroskill
Just pointing out the obvious. Where are the videos of you engaging in pvp with people that are actually prepared for it?
>seething too hard to notice
tt ones are against the invaders.
Are invaders "not prepared?"
Or is it just more cope?
still waiting for you to post the clips of endgame pvp instead of just low lvl pvp
>clips of everyone 2-shots everyone
Just make a low level cheracter and put me in my place if you're so tough
Well at least you admit that your entire thing IS just fricking over newbies.
>overleveled phantoms are newbies
>other invaders are newbies
>You CAN'T just choose to not level up!
>You CAN'T just choose to not level up!
You can but you already admitted that the only reason you made that choice is to frick over new players.
You want force people to play with you on your own terms but yourself can't accept playing the game the way the game was intended either.
>Not leveling up is not intended!
Who told you that, the "recommended level by zone" guide?
Lmao
>also ignores overleveled phantoms and other invaders because he can't cope with that
You can keep crying but it won't change the fact that you cannot handle endgame pvp. All you do is get your kicks from beating new players and cry about how your own behavior makes people not want to play with you.
don't be moronic anon, you can't go seal clubbing in endgame zones and gear
>Seethe more zeroskill
very nice. Let's see paul allen's arena clips.
>Can't beat the bosses
>Has to resort to beating just starting players to feign skill
see thats the funny part, you know where all this stuff is because you know the game inside and out.
that new guy you're raiding? has one of those at the very most.
That new guy usually has a friend who also has beaten the whole game and more often than not drop him shit.
But that doesn't count for your cope. You're always a victim no matter what.
>i opened a guide before i even booted the game
>that means everyone else has their experience spoiled in a similar way!
frickin hell mate. can you try to sound less pathetic?
>thinks people need a fricking guide to level vig
im talking about the items, gaytard.
but you'll never admit that because it kills your entire argument.
also see
>b-but enemies in the world are so easy I can go without leveling vig!
>AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!! Margit oneshots me! Unfair!
>AAAAIIIIEEEEE!!! Red men kill me with unupgraded weapons!!!
I mean, if you insist on being a moron be my guest.
>but enemies in the world are so easy I can go without leveling vig!
correct
>Margit oneshots me!
never complained about that
>Red men kill me with unupgraded weapons!!!
nor that.
the core complaint is about YOU.
raids would be fine if it was just people of similar skill raiding each other, but its YOU who goes around the map at level 1 and collects things for the upper hand over people who are playing for their first time around.
Skill issue, get good at the game or play another game.
>bro just look up a guide for top tier items that you can get at level 1!
(you) are the problem child of this equation.
>he needs a fricking guide to use stuff he likes
again, thats not what im getting at but you'll never admit it because you know it kills your entire argument.
suppose i just booted up the game for the first time, not even a minute ingame.
how am i supposed to know where any of this
is? and that im supposed to get all of it because if i dont a red guy will come in and beat my kneecaps in for not having it.
>how am i supposed to know where any of this is?
You fricking explore the game. By playing it. You have a horse that can skip every enemy in existence. Use it moron.
why the frick would i SKIP enemies on my first time playing a game you absolute subhuman?
alright im exploring, but i didnt take a path that led me to those three things first or skip any enemies.
now red man popped in and killed me in two hits.
now what?
You respawn, spend 30 seconds to get your runes back and continue exploring since you now have a 10-15 minute cooldown on getting invaded.
alright cool but in those 15 minutes i didnt find any of those three things because i didnt take this specific path, now another red man spawned in and killed me again.
now what?
You continue until you find something you like and try it out.
You don't get your ego completely demolished by losing to another human being right?
Death has zero consequence in this game.
>You don't get your ego completely demolished by losing to another human being right?
funny you mention that.
why are you picking on fresh installs instead of people at your skill level in the pvp arena?
>arena?
Because I have to wait for eternity and never get a match. People keep telling you about it in every thread you try to use arena as a gotcha.
do you want to know why you have to wait an eternity? because nobody's interested in souls PVP except for shitters like you who just want to prey on new players.
>all that cope
You can always play another game.
I know you NEED seamless to avoid getting shit on by a bad red man, despite having all the advantages you can have.
>you dont get it bro. if you dont open a guide before you even boot the game then its your fault that you died to red man!
b-b-but you can play optimally and skip all the enemies and use a meta stat spread and pick a good weapon from the wiki and then invaders aren't as much of a threat....
You actually, unironically, do not need a guide to level vig, then walk forward and press r1 to win against an invader when you have 2 friends by your side.
>moron reposting a moronic take
not leveling vigor is a risk/reward thing.
the risk? less HP, meaning bosses can easily one shot you.
the reward? more of everything else
players who dont level vigor understand the risk.
the problem comes from endgame players like who you follow a minmax build on youtube and can very easily face tank damage output to punish them for beating the risk factor of that risk/reward scenario.
You don't get anything out of your damage stat until you upgrade your weapon.
But morons will be morons and continue complaining about being killed after taking a risk.
you also get get anything when people dont want to play with your youtube one shot builds.
Skill issue, you should have watched youtube and prepared a meta build and summoned strong allies and-
>invader proceeds to scream about "cheating" and "babysitting"
>skill issue for playing Elden Ring casually and not EPIC YOUTUBE INVADER HYPERMETA ULTRA GUIDE PERFECT BUILD FOR INVADING
>skill issue for playing Elden Ring casually
Yes, unironically.
I mean, we've all seen this ten years ago.
>lmao why aren't you prepared for my epic youtube build in The Burg
If you need kevlar and a machine gun to defeat a kid with a soft toy baseball bat, I guess it comes natural to you.
all of these clips suck its just two morons spamming eachother ill never understand why pvpgays dont buy a fighting game (oh wait its because they'd get destroyed in a real pvp game)
You suck in every game which has pvp and you will forever cope.
Nope I play GBVSR, SF6 etc. Ive also done a million invasions but its just boring once you play the real thing
but no go ahead dude, it was super sick when you hit him cuz he didnt roll that was really tight
>I am super good and competitive in other games, just not this one
Lol. Lmao. Seethe more skillet. Your competitive skill goes to another school and you can't show us.
elden ring is not a competitive game
Why do invaders compare seal clubbing casuals to skill-based matchmaking PVP? Because you guys literally quake in fear of that.
So was this invader with dual bleed spear (you have to farm for) with bleed buff a baby seal?
you killed a guy that was lagging out... lmao these cips are pathetic
That one phantom was a max level btw
Such a new player am I right?
>casulgays will never recover after seeing their max level friend getting demolished
nothing my mimic veil can't fix
Dont worry OP, i'll play with you
Let me just activate my blue ring real quick
Also RL?
20+0 but good luck getting summoned as a blue.
My record is 2 times in 6 hours.
>same old shit thread about a shit mod
Ganker truly is broken.
>playing through new wolf games for the first time
>first game slaps
>New Colossus starts off great
>Caroline, much loved and respected leader and mother figure gets brutally executed early in the game
>her old quarters are, obviously for a leader, on the bridge of the stolen u-boat
>The very next mission involves rescuing that one bug-eyed nog who is in every game
>she and her colonizer immediately move into Caroline's quarters (despite the rest of her crew inhabiting a whole new area of the u-boat)
>nobody bats an eye at this
It's like they forgot Caroline existed after her dramatic exit.
do you understand that the mod won't even need to be updated to still work with the dlc? do you even have the tiniest clue how any of this shit works?
>guy that gets his kicks fricking over newbies
>understanding how anything works
He doesn't even understand why people want to use the mod in the first place even though he is the primary reason
I played the new colossus for the first time yesterday and it is insane how buggy and unoptimized that game still is. Makes me very nervous for the Indiana Jones game.
Huh what? I played on 970 and it ran really well. I even had headroom to mod the fps cap out.
>I played on 970 and it ran really well
lmao at 720p maybe
This game runs like crap on my 2070S at 1080p still
We both can just Youtube a video about it to refresh our memories. Like even on ultra it gets 60+. And I'd imagine it running like trash on ultra + vram issues. I played like medium-high.
nvm New Colossus was the II so it had no 60 fps cap anymore. But it still ran around 90.
Wolfenstein is getting another coop game? Youngblood didn't do any well.
>n-n-no, you HAVE to play with me, MommySOFT says so!
So all the invaders are that one annoying moronic kid who kept trying to force other kids to spend time with him? Top kek. How much of a homosexual do you need to be that even FromSoft players want nothing to do with you?
you should check the archive
this gay makes this thread frequently crying about how nobody wants to play with him
is there a more succinct name for "ER seamless coop schizo"? this chucklefrick has been at it for a while, you'd thing he'd gain more noteriety
but i will concede, at least he stays in his own delusional little thread, and not just reflexively replies to every related thread
>can't play Sea of Thieves, Albion or Eve because there's no protection from Big Griefers destroying small griefers
>same with Rust and the like
>can't play DAOC and the like because they are dead
>burned down New World's alpha with too much griefing and were exiled from the game
>Runescape PK zones have been dead for years
>the only dev that tolerates them is Fromsoft and maybe Ubisoft with The Division
Be nice to cowardly shitters that prey on casuals, they need a place to play and easy victims to sealclub.
Sea of Thieves iirc added pve-only mode
>you will fold and summon online like the game intended
Not really? Most people that summon are IRL friends. No one wants to play with random because it brings incels like (you).
You're just gonna grief me, no thanks.
How could you be so toxic, anon? If casuals leave, he has to FIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO PVP instead, how could you be so cruel to him?
>You're just gonna grief me
And?
you think people that know how to mod a game with seamless coop wont just mod themselves to instantly kill a boss they get stuck on? Your cope is so pathetic, you will never play with anyone in this game ever again.
another moron that doesn't understand how the mod works. it'll be playable from the first second.
The coliseum broke it for a while, but to be fair, it was a matchmaking and multiplayer focused patch. WHICH DIED ANYWAY BECAUSE INVADERS ARE HUGE COWARDS TOO SCARED TO FIGHT PVPgayS, so much for all that work From put in.
Well look here, a prepared pvpgay bleed built destroyed without a single chug of estus
and then after all of that the pvp gay build still won because he was using a backup spell that he could cast to damn near one shot the guy who was just trying to play normally.
>backup spell
Black person it's an ash of war.
Just ride to caelid and get it, it's inside of a bug
>it was a matchmaking and multiplayer focused patch
that's exactly it. the mod only needs to be updated when the code it interacts with is changed. colliseum changed mp code, the expansion won't.
>matchmaking put into game so people of more or less equal skill are put together
>suddenly every invader runs away since facing people with equal equipment and stats
I don't even play these games, but watching the drama unfold since this mod was released, and how absolutely pathetic the so called "challenge-seeking competitive types" really are, has been hilarious.
>"Wuts the matter guize? Can't take a challenge? Maybe you need to git gud."
>"I'm installing a mod that will keep try-hard sweatlords like you out."
>*now can only play with other try-hards*
>"FROMSOFT SAVE ME, THEY ARE RUINING MULTIPLAYER, REEEEEEEE!"
It gets funnier with every single thread.
Sea of Thieves had it even better, the griefers screamed so much they deleted the arena patch from the game. The griefers were so traumatized by being matched with other griefers they had a nuclear meltdown that resulted in the arena being deleted.
reminder, invading was never about "muh challenge muh pvp" it was always about finding ways to be a c**t online
granted, it's funny as frick to see and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's still being a c**t for the sake of being a c**t, you just gotta be honest about it instead of acting like you're not doing it for the sole purpose of acting a c**t to some rando online
This. It's Player Killing. It's Runescape's Wilderness.
Sometimes in the Wildy, you find a player who's ready for you. Some PKers will run away from that, because all they want is to PK lowbies trying to get prayer levels. Some PKers look forward to fights with better players. Souls PVP is literally the exact same shit.
Invaders get more and more homosexualy with each new game. My first like 5 encounters with invaders in elden ring was kino, every time they at least greeted me before we fought and 3 of the 5 actually had themes and funny gimmicks. One even showed me where a bonfire was and walked me back to my last bonfire before we fought and he killed me.
Immediately after that it was just all dogshit try hards running into mobs and glitching.
I swear moonveil and INTgays broke the minds of invaders permanently.
Peeve Peeverson has done irreparable damage to the Souls community.
>The player killer didn't bow and lick my butthole before he attacked me, that's bad manners!!
I don't care about bowing but don't be a homosexual and run into mobs constantly while also twinking and shit.
If I wanted to experience gank city try hards I'd boot up DS3 again, to begin with I didn't even have a yellow with me I just had tongue on.
>moonveil
homie just roll
>i keep creating threads about imaginary people
>I am the sane one here and everyone else are the schizos
Reminder that invaders are griefers, and plug-pulling on them is the morally correct thing to do.
>you will fold and summon online like the game intended
Yeah, I WILL summon my wife Tiche and you won't be able to do shit.
Never finished Elden Ring, farthest I got to was Leyndell Sewers-
Now I'm playing Deathless, died like a tard so many times but the game is fun af.
Any other handicaps like this that make the game more interesting? (No stupid shit like speedrunning)
That isn't fun. You're just stupid.
why do ppl want to skip on this kino high skill pvp
>super slow windup animation
>long audio queue
>the whole aow is countered by pressing a jump button
>ignores it and just walks
>Knowledge check+VIG check
>Host fails both things and dies
>This is the invader's fault, he's griefing
>VIG check
no such thing. there is only a dodge knowledge check check, unfortunately raiders can ignore this with endgame builds.
>Raiders
Nobody calls reds this. I don't know if this is a term you made up or if it's from Minecraft or something.
red man, invader, raider, its all the same thing.
all of it means that you're the kid that nobody wanted to play with in school.
its true and you know it.
>"nooo, you cant just play with friends. you're supposed to get raided by my levelcap one shot build. STOP IT NO YOU CANT USE SEAMLESS CO-OP!"
=
>"nooo, you're supposed to play by my rules. STOP IT NO YOU CANT JUST PLAY WITHOUT ME. IM TELLING!"
Why do people post about shit they know nothing about
i know enough to say that you're a coping gay who probably cried actual tears when he found out that people could use a mod to not play with you.
>NOOOOOO
>NOT DUAL ROT NOOBKILLER RAPIERS
>THAT'S DEEMED OP BY REDDIT
>BECAUSE NOBODY HAS A COUNTER TO THEM
>NOT EVEN OVERLEVELED PHANTOMS!!
why are status effects allowed to "lag stab" you like that?
Engine mysteries
I reserve the right to deny access to my game to whoever I want for whatever reason.
Hidetaka Miyazaki's game*
>still butthurt about being raped in undeadburg 14 fricking years ago
Black person people do it to this day with rot in Limgrave.
>rot
>NOOOOOO
>NOT DUAL ROT NOOBKILLER RAPIERS
>THAT'S DEEMED OP BY REDDIT
>BECAUSE NOBODY HAS A COUNTER TO THEM
>NOT EVEN OVERLEVELED PHANTOMS!!
>Hidetaka Miyazaki's game
If Miyajima comes to my house with a letter signed by my country's government and tells me to delete it from Steam, sure, but until then, he has no power.
I love reds, there's personally not a more satisfying feeling than cucking a red out of his kill as a hunter.
Wait people hate on seamless cause they can't be invaded? Isn't that obvious with it being a mod.the game is shit to play with friends without that mod.
its the inverse, people hate on seamless because they cant invade new players.
>Wait people hate on seamless cause they can't be invaded?
No, opposite. It gives invaders less newbies and casuals to crush and forces them to be matchmade with people who enjoy being invaded who they hate.
I dont fear the red man. Playing with someone will be allways more fun.
>BUT THE THRILL!
Enjoy the small ammount of runes for running +L1 for 10 minutes. Amazing rewards for Pvp.
I fricking hate israelites by the way
Souls pvp was never good.
ill be there as well, still playing seamless coop kek
Enjoy waiting 2 months after release LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
wait? Why wait unless i was wanting to save money to get it on sale. If i want to play the dlc, ill play the dlc. If i want to play seamless ill play seamless, simple as.
>he doesn't know
guess not, sounds like not my problem either 🙂
That's more of a (you) problem than a (me) problem, I can play anytime, you need victims.
>just the time to finish the 50-hour dlc by myself before replaying it with my bros
sounds perfect
The best iteration of Souls PvP was in the Spear of the Church boss fight in DS3.
God, I hope the DLC has something like that.
Imagine thinking beating a video game under some self imposed rules gives you "spine" or is any sort of impressive feat. I'll do whatever the frick I want and mod my software how I please, thanks keep seething.
>not cheating is actually a self-imposed rule
Keep coping.
haven't even tried the seamless co-op mod, I just think it's a good idea and I'm delighted it makes gays whose personality trait is "hardcore gamers" rage. Thinking beating a game is an accomplishment is absolutely pathetic, you'll realize when you grow up maybe.
Griefers calling themselves hardcore is funny given that we watch them scream and run like b***hes from real PVP players. New World's open world PVP couldn't work because griefers would run like hell from real PVPchads.
>keeps ignoring the duels with invaders specifically built to kill other players because it doesn't fit his narrative
It's not even self-imposed rules on yourself, it's self-imposed rules on others, which is even more embarrassing.
Why can't some spiteful modder make a mod that'll force invasions on seamless co-op Black folk? Is it impossible?
you would need the seamless Black folk to also install said mod, so unless they just wanted that feature then yeah its impossible
From soft pvp has never been good and is exclusively for the supremely mentally ill. As directly evidenced by the dude making this thread to seethe over and over and over
the solution has been in front of them the whole time. Just by a console, then theyll never have to worry about mods.
But suggest that to them and they have a million copes why they wont do that
>just buy a console if you want to play an online game as intended
Cheater shitters will do anything to try and deflect from the fact they can't play a game without cheating
>he STILL thinks you need a guide to level vig
I mean, for such a fricking unironic moron maybe that's true
>STILL not admitting to what im actually getting at because he's wrong
Because you're getting at "being better at the game than me is cheating!!!", which is a loser take
okay so you willingly subject yourself to a playerbase that enjoys moddingbtheir game. You must be a masochist since your self inflicting this pain
I don't care about pvp either way. Generally it's not very fun because of the lag and shit. Win or lose I never feel good after a fight.
It's not good enough to make putting up with the game very bad co-op systems worth it.
That said, I understand pvp's value to the game as a whole and I will come back if From introduces official seamless co-op to the game. If you redgays want people to come play with you again, ask From to fix co-op.
So should I go into the dlc post game or start a ng+ and just rush Mogh?
I literally have a driver level EAC bypass, godmode, 1 hit kill cheats just for p2p pvp cucks like you. When I do invite my friend I'll gladly shit on you. Mass replying homosexual.
>I have a CHEAT to kill you!
>*thinks that is not pathetic in any way*
>thinks dark souls pvp requires any skill what so ever on a peer 2 peer network
>takes darksouls pvp as seriously as a zoomer would take cod seriously
yawn. See you in a couple of months.
>Says ds pvp requires no skill
>still has to cheat at it
what a cute self-own
Seamless is just the icing on top, I wouldn't be playing with you either way
based, hadn't played reforged in a while and it's fricking incredible how much they've added since the then. can't play without my sekiro block and dodge duck either, one of the main reasons i used it.
Honestly I don't understand why invasions has to be pure griefing, it was boring 30 years ago and it's boring now. I'd love designated areas where dying has no little to no penalty and your job would to be an absolute little shit to the host. Suicide bomb, aggro mobs, throw dung, rig traps near chests or items, disguise yourself and pop out when the host gets near, and in general be a huge nuisance.
because that would actually be fun, besides Left 4 dead already exists
That's a good point, fricking loved L4D's versus mode. You took turns being a nuisance to each other, and equal turn making progress, and being a little shit to the other side.
Please, you guys already complain "there's too many checkpoints, we can't inflict enough penalties this way".
Everything you described is ultra griefing to an average pve only baby.
The whole game has zero death penalty.
That's just Dark Souls 2.
Eh, DS2 was still mostly regular run-ending, but it had some fun ideas. Problem is the focus is still on sending the host back to the bonfire.
All of this would be fixed if From would just bring back 1v1 invasions. Forcing unbalanced PvP encourages garbage behaviors in invaders and kills the original spirit of invading. WIN!WIN!WIN! MOBA-brained zoomer gays also ruined it, but FROM enables them with it's shitty pvp systems.
Nah, 1v1 invasions are the exact same shit as everything else. Everyone talks about "le heckin' valid and friendly invasions" only to pull out a scraping spear or a Chaos weapon.
it wouldn't be killed by a co-op mod though.
I'm a sologay and I'd rather play on a co-op only server in the event I wanted to play with others for a change, why on earth would I want to ever be on the same server as invaders?
Eh, invasions aren't even that common. Like, I've played every souls game on release and I've never been walled by the occasional invader. I think it's better to have them than to not.
The problem is just that co-op is terrible with official systems. If From could fix it, I'd love to play with invaders again. Invaders are kind of an unfortunate victim of Froms bad co-op design and the community having better alternatives.
it's simply because it wasn't as popular, you literally can't go 2 seconds without being invaded with the taunters tongue in elden ring, they literally don't care about the PVP or how it feels for players
>dark souls, beat boss, go human, get invaded, die, etc
>elden ring, YOU NEED TO CO-OP
>elden ring, YOU NEED AN ITEM
>elden ring, back to back invasions if you use 'the item' with no cooldown or organic nature to it like players actually want
might as well be fricking DUELING at this point with how much of a joke elden ring pvp is
Hahaha I remember butthurt incelvaders malding because I kept my friends (who never played souls before) away from their autism with seamless coop mod. We enjoyed an entire amazing playthrough without you.
>d-doesnt matter, I will k-kill them when DLC drops
Lol no. I am playing DLC day 1. They are okay with waiting for mods to get updated.
REMINDER REDKEKS
ONLY PEOPLE WITH FRIENDS DESERVE TO HAVE FUN
LOSERS LIKE YOU DESERVE TO BE ALONE
ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT LMAO
Ive been playing with a buddy of mine who has never played a souls game split screen and its been a blast. Ass mad reds are so uninformed they probably believe split screen isnt possible in ER
>split screen
ER couch co-op? Sounds like a blast
Yeah, you can have as many players as seamless supports. But you need a pretty beefy pc to run more than 2 instances. I had to use the potato PC mod to get 60 fps with 2 instances. But if you have like a 3080+ you could probably run 4 player
Holy shit thanks for this tip. I was planning to build another PC so I can co-op with my bro when he visits. Guess my 3090 saved me.
Np, its super easy to set up as well and has some limited mod support. Just download Nucleus Coop and drag the little controller icons to where you want that part of the players screen to be.
I also run a mod that increases the font size, because it was a little hard to read stuff with a smaller screen size
>everyone laughing their asses off whenever someone aims the orbital strike beacon wrongly and orders a carpet bombing of the entire team in Helldivers
If you keep actual punishment for engaging in player killing to a minimum, no one will mind a bit of tomfoolery. Problem is then the PK crowd gets mad and won't play the game mode because their fun is derived from ruining the game for others.
How do we stop this endless cycle of people shitting on each other for no benefit at all?
Everybody will keep doing whatever the frick they want, a comment made by a couple strangers on the internet won't change anything.
Kill them all, start over. Humanity 2
Make invaders fight invaders, change the game mode to force half of them to be hosts to invade. There we go, infinite invasions with low queue times. Duelchads can duel, fight clubchads and fight club, hosts can co-op or solo. Let the invaders use their scummy stuff on each other.
It's literally some morons making the thread about seamless co-op so he can post his pvp webms over and over again despite no one wanting to talk about the PVP
he literally needs to be inflammatory as possible to keep his threads alive
>he literally needs to be inflammatory as possible to keep his threads alive
that goes for every thread
that's just how some people connect
at the end of the day that is what everyone is looking for , connection
nothing will ever beat Dark Souls 1 Sen's Fortress invasions
FROMshit can solve all problems with invading by making invaders play as an existing enemy, like Resident Evil 6.
That'd be fun if they could play as some of the bosses too
i'd fricking LOVE this as a feature
>"something is harboring an otherworldly presence..."
>one mid-level enemy in a group is suddenly capable of dodging, parrying, etc.
it'd be real tough for the invader to succeed though
They could make it like the gravelord covenant in DS1 where new red enemies would spawn but it would be another players. Alternatively, they don't glow red and it becomes a game of "who isn't where they should be."
I've beaten every dark souls while playing offline. Skill issue you cannot come into my house
The only PvP I cared about was Looking Glass Knight
>hates casuals
>hates having to fight multiple people because it's too hard(??? but aren't they casuals who suck?)
>hates PVE
>hates friends
>spends all his time dabbing on scrubs in pvp because no one actually wants to pvp except homosexuals
>won't do dueling because 'it isn't the same'(as in he can't dump on noobs who don't know pvp strats)
and then they continuously post bait threads about a co-op mod no one really uses, all so he can post his shit webms that all play out exactly the same way
can you guys please stop taking the bait, elden ring is normie slop at this point, it's made for casuals
I just wanna ride around my horse with the boys
>playing fromsoft games on PC
I admit it, I kek'd. Very funny OP
>
>pve game
>people try to be competitive
lol
lmao even
it's worse, they go after noobs who just want to play the PVE side instead of dueling other people at the arena
I've never enabled multiplayer on a Souls game and I don't plan on it.
>Black person obsessed with cuckoldry and cheating trying to give opinions to me
lol, lmao, go back to jerking off to men being emotionally humiliated or whatever the fetish entails you gay frick
>can't win and seethes about it
>gets cucked from playing on day one just because I exist
>desperately tries to cope and pretend to be superior at least somehow
>fails miserably
Keep going you make me laugh
So youre not denying jerking off to men?
what a gay
>the desperation
Well, what can one expect from a skilless loser
Does PC have hate mail or any form of communication? I feel like it's important. Multiplayer games got worse when everyone was made anonymous and mute.
you can message people on steam, other than that its the same as console
>try finger but hole
Do people ever do it? I feel like I haven't seen any pictures/stories like these since the ps3 days. People just argue about meta and how much they hate each other now. Is this a fault the the industry changing or do gamers these days just lack souls?
We had Xbox Game Center on PC and still might.
People just want to play their video games without some le epic Ganker joker autistically screeching at them in a non-competitive game.
>Allowing any fromsoft game to go online after the dark souls 3 fiasco
>Purchasing a legal copy of elden ring with their body dysmorphia promoting type A/B
Fricking gays
no-fun homosexuals are STILL absolutely seething about seamless co-op's mere existence
Lol
Lmao even
Souls PvP was never good.
It's good enough IMO.
There's just no other game that delivers on it.
>Sword and Sorcery game
>Tons of dress up
>Build variety
>Action combat
>Can do arena or attack people in the open world
I'm not gonna play a fricking MMO.
If a game exactly like dark souls where the characters weren't ugly and the combat was only a tiny bit better came out I'd probably never look back at Souls again.
Nobody wants to deal with invaders when they're just with their friend. If you wanted to PvP you would go to one of the hotspots for it, but instead you seethe over people who wouldn't play with you anyways.
I wish they did more creative blending of PvE and PvP, like a Looking Glass Knight in DS2. Stuff like this is fun for both kinds of players - personally I love when the game spices up your walkthrough with dynamic elements like this.
Maybe even some covenant that lets invaders spawn AS monsters in the level? This way you also get rid of the cancerous metabuilds.
DS3 has the princess defender boss which is my favorite PVP experience of any FROM game and people still complain like fricking crazy because I actually know what I'm doing and I hard wall pretty much anyone who has to fight me as the boss.
it was pretty cool but not very balanced for regen builds,it was impossible to lose as the boss heh
Not impossible, but most people fell flat because they brought their "I'll just cheese the boss" kind of builds, which don't work on a player that can heal.
My STR/FAI regen build I made SPECIFICALLY to lounge around and protect the princess (she's just sleeping) trounces PVEgays.
>Let invaders spawn as monsters
Doom Eternal was going to do this but they couldn't figure out a way to get people to stop skipping entire segments which would completely frick up the invasion matchmaking so they dropped the idea entirely. What a fricking shame.
what's with the sudden hate campaign on seamless on Ganker? it's fun with friends and no one used it for their first playthrough so what's the issue?
Wow, brownies get real mad when you actually prevent them from ruining something.
souls PvPers are truly the most insufferable homosexuals in existence. not a single soul gives a frick about PvP, not even From gives a frick. they threw a bone to you gays with the arena and called it good. Souls PvP is a literal afterthought and anyone who takes it seriously needs a fricking bullet through their skull
Seethe the Scaleless
>said the gay repeatedly creating the same thread over and over because he's upset he can't instakill everyone he invades
IP count went up 1 when I posted, meaning I cannot be OP.
Maybe go play frickin Zoombinis and drink some orange juice bro.
Great runes mean red men can frick off forever for me
>Co-op.
Don't care. Didn't beat the game.
I fricking invaded someone DAY TWO who had Moonveil. So did his phantom.
Just because YOU are too moronic to get the good weapons doesn't mean everyone else is.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOME PEOPLE ARE USING COOL WEAPONS I NEED TO EXPLOIT THE GAME
I don't know how you came to your conclusions but go off chief
>pretending that gays didn't rush to use the curse immolate bug as soon as it was on youtube
Yeah that was pretty gay but also irrelevant to why I mentioned getting good weapons early in the game.
I'll never understand why the gankers think everyone should be forced to play with them.
You're a ganker because you didn't have friends to summon in the first place.
I have never gone online in a souls game in my life
You're not missing much. It's just the addition of even more loading screens.
Remain pure, no mater what you do.
>redcuck keeps screaming and crying that people use a mod to get multiplayer that isn't from 2009
>starts damage controlling that the older games have mods to let invaders just cheat and invade anywhere without moving
Not a single person mentioned wex dust one fricking time this entire thread so what is this post
pointing out the double standard invadercucks have
its just like how in the older games invadergays cried about how "unfair" it was when a blue invaded them during an invasion
Wex dust functinality is default in elden ring, moron. It was added by devs, not mods.
>cheat in DS3
>nonononononononno its okay because other game!
Just playing devil's advocate here, but how is modding in global matchmaking cheating?
>breaking the game for your own benefit
>not cheating
the coop mod on the other hand updates mechanics and makes enemies and bosses stronger
>My mod? Good!
>You mod? Bad!
Grug very smart.
yes, now go back to pick berry, berry picker
Grug paint himself red and hit you with big rock from scary place YOU not go yet!
You didn't answer the question.
>So what advantage does wex dust provide to the person using it?
>Or what challenge does it remove from the game?
>cheater seething when called out
My mod enables me to interact with the game more.
Your mod actually removes an aspect of the game you find too difficult.
If anything, you're the one who's cheating.
>cheater is still trying to cope
sorry redgay, your mod lets you cheat by not having to do anything to invade anywhere
co-op mod fixes multiplayer and breaks invasions as a side effect
I know this Black person's trolling but I do wonder if there's anyone who genuinely thinks that seamless co-op "fixes" multiplayer as though they know better than the original developers.
>no mounts
>walls spawn everywhere
>have to summon and re-summon over and over
>summoning and invading can just fail to connect
What is it with you homosexuals and defending From still using 2009 shit?
It's 2024 bro. If the devs didn't want it to be this way, they'd have made it a different way. FROM clearly wanted you to do the co-op piece by piece, not wholesale. The connection problems are gay as frick though.
good thing mods exist to fix the mistakes lazy devs keep making
PvE homosexuals are so addicted to the smell of their own farts they think the way the game was designed was "mistakes by lazy devs" that they, the enlightened ones, can "fix".
cope
I'm gonna laugh when the next game they make cucks reds even harder
You mean like they have the past 4 games? People will still do red content. PvE gays are the ones that have to mod content OUT of the game in order to enjoy it.
PVE players mod the game to fix From being lazy
invasions breaking are a by-product
one of these days you should actually read what the mod's page
>invasions breaking are a by-product
>tee-hee!
cope Black person
learn to read
Yes yes, we know you got yourself a conveniently named easy mode that doesn't hurt your feefees when you install it
>turns off internet
>Y-y-your using the easy c-c-cheat!!!
god damn you are moronic lmfao
>uses every opportunity outside of the game possible to avoid invasions
Keep coping, shitter
>playing online
you did not beat the game
>stops paying for internet
>EASY CHEAT WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!
i knew invaders are dumb. but were reaching single digit iq levels here
>10 thousand excuses
>just to hide from the bad red man
>has ATT internet
>EAZY CHAAAAT
kek do you have to wear a helmet to not smash your head into things anon?
You would not be playing seamless coop in that situation lol.
unless you were playing splitscreen. But regardless you wouldn't be getting onvaded either way lol
>play offline
>play solo
>u-u-u-uu-u-u-u-u-u-ur cheating!!!!!1!
you dont need a mod to turn off invasions moron
>still fails to answer the question
>seethes when his "gotcha" moment is nullified
>wex dust is a cheat for ds3
So what advantage does it provide to the person using it?
Or what challenge does it remove from the game?
I have a feeling you're quite literally just making shit up. I've been playing Souls since Demon's and nobody ever complained about Blues, in fact, blue phantoms are usually comically moronic monkeys.
redgays who cried about moonveil fail to see the irony of them telling fresh installs to run around the map and grab a specific set of weapons right out the gate just so that they can stand a chance against invaders.
It's their assumption that all players are doing this, even if it's not likely within their invasion level range they're playing inside of. Which is wild to me, because the people who do this shit are also gonna kill Greyoll and outlevel the sort of reds doing shit like this one anon who's very proud of his homework in here.
ill play through it once solo and then again with seamless coop with my friends just like I did the base game
I can't wait to test out all the new weapons and spells in pvp, I really hope high monk is fun and not total trash like it is in Sekiro.
I also hope there are some unannounced features relating to multiplayer, like forest invasions and player controlled bosses. Maybe even horses in multiplayer and a higher player cap in some areas.
>Player controlled bosses
Has there been a Souls game that didn't have this?
DS1 and 2, DS2 had the mirror knight though but it was very rare to see a player come out of the shield.
On the note of player controlled bosses, I think radagon might have been one in alpha builds of the game. I invade a lot and there still is a very rare chance that you end up inside the radagon boss fight. If you do you can't see the boss and you can't interact with the players, but the gateway for players to get in is in the code which is interesting.
You know the big appeal is that you can actually treat Elden Ring as a open world game when playing in coop.
Since this topic seems dear to your heart, how would you like it if you could still be invaded even with the mod. They could be anywhere in the world and youd get kicked out after ten minutes if you cant find them.
As an invader, I'd do it. If I could use the horse, and still get the 3 fingers, absolutely that sounds good. Especially if there could be more than one invader.
Ah yes, I truly am playing baby mode because my game isn't occasionally turned into PvP where I knock some guy who thinks he's clever off the cliff.
Why do redgays refuse to learn to read?
>redcuck ignores everything to keep crying and pretending the mod exists only to remove invasions
The game is not even hard to begin with their are a billion ways to break the game seriously Elden ring is one of the easier souls games and the only way invaders have ever made any souls game hard is if they are a hacker and fricks up your save the big problem is most invaders want to camp a early game location with a minimaxed pvp meta build that outclasses anything you could ever get at that point in the game sure I can win against the shitters but its a tedious slog and its better to just jump off a cliff or just play offline then deal with them seriously if you want pvp go the the coliseum or use taunter's tongue but sadly most reds are to much of a coward to actually pvp with people who actually want to pvp because it increases their chance of getting their ass kicked or and would rather pvp on baby mode and attack people who don't know how to pvp or don't know how to really play the game yet.
reminder that people have been complaining about griefers preying on pve players since the first MMOs that even allowed pvp.
they have NEVER been welcome.
>people have been pussies ever since they were exposed to competition online
What else is new?
again, you're still ignoring the point
pve builds =/= pvp builds.
you're preying on people that optimize for pve content by making builds that explicitly prey on the weaknesses of those builds. you dont actually have any interest in real pvp, you just want free kills.
>you dont actually have any interest in real pvp, you just want free kills.
if they did then theybwould play a game actually focused around pvp like Mordhau, but they get their shit pushed in with that game and come crawling back so they can stomp fresh installs with rivers of blood
In souls series there is no pvp or pve builds.
There are either shit builds or good builds.
Both can be used in both pvp and pve.
The only time it's been unacceptable has been I think Blade and Soul where one of the first things to do was you were forced to do a quest where you had to put on PVP gear to finish the quest. So your level 5 ass was getting camped by level 20-100 players from the enemy faction until someone of your faction came in to get them outta there. It made the game memorable where I basically had to scramble out of the first town as fast as I could, skipping dialogue like a madman, but frick right off with that shit.
I'm playing Dark Souls for the time with my gf and i can't help but feel like the co op system is needlessly obtuse
>need to use a humanity to summon someone in the first place
>where you can actually place a summon sign is inconsistent so you'll sometimes have to play through huge swaths of an area before you can even summon the other person (like blighttown and the place with the annoying scythe ghosts)
>if you die as the host you're booted back to the last bonfire and now have to scour for another humanity before you can even summon again
Do they streamline this at all in the later games?
Elden Ring gets out of this entirely by having it be one of the first items you can find in the open world, with having the item be the only prerequisite
The game just isn't designed with the intention of you playing through from start to finish with one person and that's never changed.
>like the game intented
LMAO
LMAO
Yes anon, you are intended to get invaded if you play coop
Here's someone who has a right idea how to not suck.
Had every chance to win and probably would if didn't just mash.
>he manages to get the youtube build PVP shitter down to being one hit away
>youtube build PVP shitter pulls out a two hit kill that he could have very easily done if he just face tanked
so skillful bro. maybe another kill against a pve player will make your dad come back.
You don't need a youtube guide to level VIG.
Also, yes, if you don't dodge the estoc it can hit you.
again, vigor has nothing to do with it.
keep coping about how you've never been welcome in multiplayer games though.
moron, vigour is the only stat that was leveled on this character. This is what you call the "youtube pvp build", implying you can only think of leveling that stat if you have some toober tell you to do that.
Leveling your health stat first has been the best course of action ever since DES.
Stop being a brainlet. It's been 15 years.
>uh yeah bro level the stat you dont need for PVE because my favorite youtuber told me how to beat people who build for PVE
Let me guess, you think mountaintops of the giants is the worst location with the needless difficulty spike.
bro just dodge.
then again, seeing your webms and how often you take damage even with your meta PVP builds its no wonder why you think anywhere has a "sudden difficulty spike"
Well then make your own pvp wembs of you never taking damage.
why would i? im not a PVP shitter
Oh so you can't.
Not surpris
>all those buffs
>even frickin boiled crabs
>all at low level invasions
How do you stop your controlling slipping from your sweaty hands? Lad, just go do pvp duels.
This is exactly what it was.
A duel. I was using Taunter's Tongue here. The guy invaded me.
dont you have the arena?
whats the big deal, anon? scared?
Yes, of waiting for eternity and never getting a match.
I would rather play the active parts of the game.
but surely the wait would be worth it.
you'll be going up against people who know what they're doing instead of random fresh installs...
oh wait. thats not why you invade other people. you just want free kills.
same as all the other raiders who raid instead of do dedicated pvp
I tried waiting for 2 hours the other day, never got a match.
Why would I keep waiting when I can get couple of dozens invasions and TT duels?
>why would i wait for a high quality match when i can instead get free kills?
dunno, anon. truly is a mystery.
bet you also camp spawnpoints in team v team games.
Anon, I don't want to waste my time waiting.
Come to use TT in limgrave if you want to try and kick my ass. Invaders seethe and run from "true" pvpers after all?
But I know you won't.
And this is what happens when you have your overleveled friend play the game for you
>invasion shitter goes against someone ready to PVP
>gets his shit kicked in
>"NO NO NO WAHHHHH OVERLEVELED!!! STOP PLAYING THE GAME FOR HIM"
kek, like clockwork.
I won the invasion moron.
The funny part is that I was not targeting the host at all and he fricking jumped to be hit my be.
>Been playing these games since DS1
>Barely get ever invaded
I must either have good or bad luck
I wish From added more detriments to red phanyoms like they did in demon's souls for actng like gays
>Verification not required
Spitegays rejoice, I lose this one.
Notice how I do the exact same damage numbers you Black folk were complaining is "half" of the hp bar of a viglet.
This is what having VIG does.
Also, anyone has any idea what caused him to do 1/4 of my hp per carian slicer hit one moment and it being toned down to 1/8 the next second?
>OP continues to be completely and utterly mindbroken by a single mod
>wonder why no one likes dealing with invaders
>keeps posting webms of a level 20 with every buff in the game and 99 of all consumables taking 0 damage from hits and two hitting people
>99 of all consubables
>crab
Really Black person?
>two hitting people
Level vig moron and I won't be able to 2-hit you.
>I don't get duels in the arenas
Shit dude I was getting in constantly today, maybe your playing in a lvl bracket that doesn't fit you