Give Colosseum a try if you haven't

It's honestly great and overlooked.

>visual inspiration from Trigun, Bebop, Phantom Menace
>double battles from the get-go make it feel like an actual RPG
>some of the best particle effects I've ever seen
>actual characters

Don't be fooled by people saying the battles take too long. They haven't played it.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t think you’ve played it either.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ive played it and they do. The quirky mons that waste time stumbling about to do everything are the worst

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand TID and SID manipulation here. I calculated my initial seed using Battle Now, timed the game start with Eon Timer, then adjusted the calibration to match the delay. But when I tried again with another seed (which should be more accurate given the calibration shouldn't change regardless of seed and SID chosen) I still get another wacky number, not even closer to my target. The frick.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol i just did this shit and had the same problem.
      After calibrating, you have to aim for a target that’s not 500 frame away from your initial target. So if the first TID/SID you go for is 2000 frames in, the next targets you go for should be in the 1500-2500 range. It’s cause the game’s frame rate is inconsistent or something and can throw your numbers off, idk lol

      Hope that makes sense. I only did some rng on gen 4 games before this, so I’m new to this colo and had to dig through a discord to find out why the numbers were way off

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh yeah this was also on a Wii. idk if it’s different on emulators

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up nerd

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess I'll keep trying, thanks.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          good luck. like i said, just aim for something that's not 500 frames or more away from your initial target and the numbers will be much more consistent. it just sucks to keep resetting until something you want comes up

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, I don't even know if I even can search for my original target. What I've been doing is finding my initial seed, plugging it into CoTool and checking SIDs that result from that spread in Pokefinder to see if I get spread results for all three Pokemon I want, and if so I attempt to get the TID/SID combo. Each initial seed is different, so the TID/SID combo I try for each time is different too.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              > if I even can search for my original target
              > Each initial seed is different, so the TID/SID combo I try for each time is different too.
              i know, but that’s not what I meant. what I mean is you should stick to hitting frames that are close to your initial calibration. TID manipulation is funky in this game
              Like if you try to hit a TID on frame 5000, miss, then calibrate for that, you shouldn’t then try to hit something on frame 7000. Stick to something in the 4500-5500 range

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh alright. I'll try that.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                sry if I’m explaining this weirdly, I did this like 2 weeks ago and barely touched the game afterwards lol
                I manipped a tid for a shiny jolly sneasel and manipped a tid for shiny timid or modest legendary beasts on the Japanese version
                last thing i did in the game was manipped this shiny dundunsparce

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol i just did this shit and had the same problem.
      After calibrating, you have to aim for a target that’s not 500 frame away from your initial target. So if the first TID/SID you go for is 2000 frames in, the next targets you go for should be in the 1500-2500 range. It’s cause the game’s frame rate is inconsistent or something and can throw your numbers off, idk lol

      Hope that makes sense. I only did some rng on gen 4 games before this, so I’m new to this colo and had to dig through a discord to find out why the numbers were way off

      NEEEERRRRDS

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The battles take forever. Was pissed off that I couldn't turn off animations. And my emulator on my phone can't handle the fast forward function so I'm stuck playing 1x speed.
    That being said the game has soul and is comfy if you aren't in a rush. I like to play it before bed when I'm also more sluggish

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Battles take forever meme

    I'd actually like to line up a battle in Emerald and Colosseum one day with the same mons and same moves being used, just to see how the speed fares.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please do it just so you can embarrass yourself even more and make up a new cope about Colosseum being a good game.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the battles in Emerald are singles and I doubt there's a copy of exact pokemon a trainer has versus Colosseum. You'd probably have to do it with another "player", but you'd have to account for the slight lag on Emerald and having to deal with doing two inputs if doing PvP mode.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Most of the battles in Emerald are singles
        You have not played Emerald.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's been a while since I actually played it, but I've been watching someone doing a gen 3 living dex and yeah, most of Emerald is singles battles or can be singles battles if you don't get caught between two trainers.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are tag battles fricking EVERYWHERE in Emerald. Sometimes more than just regular singles trainers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The animations are fairly long and there's no option to disable them IIRC.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        the text being instant makes it so battles last about the same

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They do take longer than gen 3 battles by quite a large margin, don't kid yourself. Colosseum is a baller game, though. Problem I have is that whenever I play it, I end up using permutations of the same team

    >Espeon
    >Typhlosion/Entei
    >Quagsire/Feraligatr
    >Meganium/Jumpluff
    >Ampharos/Plusle
    >Altaria/Flygon/Hariyama

    I really like Jumpluff, so I almost never go for Bayleef in Phenac

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried using Furret? Pretty underrated in colosseum

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but I always feel like the slot it takes up is better utilized by other mons. I got a decent way through with it on my first or second time through, but I swapped it out for Vibrava when I caught it.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's an enjoyable game but not greatly repayable

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Orre is a good region. GoD (it's the weekend, I refuse to use the other title) is also a fun ride, though for me, Citadark Isle's always been a slog.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Colosseum is better than it's sequel

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not having fun with it so far
    Too restrictive with the pokemon I can get, they'll always be the same every playthrough

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      experiment with a weather focused team

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        seems boring

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          you can run sunny day and have jumpluff outpseed everything too

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fake Tears is a garbage idea even in Gen 3 but I appreciate the enthusiasm. In the realm of Gen 2 shitmons Plusle has a chance to shine.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really want but I hate fact it has no physical/special.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite part of the game in hindsight is the restriction on Pokemon forcing me to use different ones and strategies I otherwise wouldn't bother with. Then throw doubles only on top of that made it a memorable experience

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOO THE BATTLES TAKE "TOO LONG" BECAUSE THEY'RE PROPERLY ANIMATED AND POKEMON ACTUALLY MOVE
    why are they like this?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The mainline games already have proper animations where the Pokemon actually move without wasting 10 seconds of my time.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >without wasting 10 seconds of my time.
        They do?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're a bunch of tourists who are only on /vp/ because they know that this board is a breeding ground of autists who feel the need to argue with every comment they disagree with

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a breeding ground of autists who feel the need to argue with every comment they disagree with
        That's every single board on Ganker, without exception

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomies need everything to be fast and souless due to fricked up dopamine receptors

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >zoomies
        no, just anyone with standards

        there's a reason why even other turn based RPGs have incredibly quick and simple animations instead of "the opponent stumbles back then does le ebin quirky animation while walking back into place to waste 8 seconds of your time" like the shitty genius sonority games do.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hi Masuda. Are you still upset Colo/GoD btfos every game you've made?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can watch your wacky gifs all you want, just don't make the rest of us who actually care about PLAYING the games suffer.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are playing the game. It's part of the game. If you don't like it, play something else.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You are playing the game
                Yeah a fricking terrible one that pointlessly wastes my time all so a redditor who never touches the game can clap at le wacky cartoonish animations.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Then don't play. Why do you care what happens in a game you clearly don't like? These are battle simulator games for people who actually want to see battles simulated. These types of animations are the whole point of the game.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Then don't play
                That's what I'm doing by playing the superior mainline games instead.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >superior mainline games
                Look how fast these animations are!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because people here have forgotten to NOT feed the trolls.

      >wasting exp
      It gets banked until you're purified.

      Pretty sure they meant they'd rather that exp go to a pokemon they actually want on their team than to a shadow pokemon that's getting boxed as soon as it's purified.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The truth is Pokemon's battles have always been slow and too textual.
      Everything by now should be conveyed with floating numbers and icons to denote status effects.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to get farther in Colosseum but the purification mechanic just really turns me off.
    Having to lug around a shit Pokemon in battles and wasting exp that could have gone to other members isn't really fun, especially when there's limited battles.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      just stay in hyper mode and keep mashing autocrit shadow rush, most pokemon become weaker once purified

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just go to Agate Town and auto-walk to purify as you do something else.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wasting exp
      It gets banked until you're purified.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    today I will remind them

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same feeling.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, playing the modern main series at all just wastes your time on a bigger scale. 58-second turns that aren't even animated are nothing

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >visual inspiration from Trigun, Bebop, Phantom Menace
    I like the setting but it's just derivative of the time not purposeful inspiration.
    >double battles from the get-go make it feel like an actual RPG
    It would be cool if it was 2v2 instead of 2v1+"entered hyper mode".
    >some of the best particle effects I've ever seen
    play other games
    >actual characters
    forgettable except for mirror b

    It's a boring, slow, tedious, side game, with models recycled from the first 3D Pokemon game. I wish I didn't actually play it and wouldn't know how overrated the game was. The difficulty is a meme, the game just turns training your pokemon into a chore.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's just derivative of the time not purposeful inspiration
      >not inspired by bebop

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >some of the best particle effects I've ever seen
      >play other games

      The battle particle animations still hold up in 2024, 20 years later. That's how good they are.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Colosseum and XD are basically just hallways and cutscenes. Everything people complain about in games like SM and SwSh but worse.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      But SM is good.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The camera is underrated in Colosseum. They way it bobs and pivots around the Pokemon during battle is great. Focus on it next time you're playing.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Trigun
    Isn't that the anime where all the fans are gigantic fujoshi homosexuals who call the blond guy "woman-coded" or something

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tumblr mental illness

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't understand how Scarlet and Sword still haven't caught up to Battle Revolution's animations.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I just don't understand how Scarlet and Sword actually cater to people who play the game instead of mouthbreathers who like watching long animations on youtube

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why should they? They don't need good animations to sell copies, frustrating I know.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boot up gamecube
    >put in colosseum
    >enjoy it immensely
    >save and quit
    >go to play it later
    >gamecube no longer reading discs

    I had the roaming trio cleansed

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's Almost certainly fixable
      https://www.ifixit.com/Wiki/Nintendo_GameCube_Troubleshooting#Section_GameCube_Does_Not_Read_Discs

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did play it, and while it was alright for a one-time playthrough I don't think I'm ever going to play it again. Purification is a fricking slog, the pokemon selection is awful, and the constant fricking interruptions by peons ambushing you every few steps later in the game genuinely got on my nerves.
    I also can't even remember any of the "characters" except for le funneh afro homosexual.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought all the cipher admins were cool, very distinct personalities like pic related
      the game is a slow grindfest and has very little replayability but it's still a classic

      one of those things that is great the first time but meh otherwise

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