Yes. >procgen slop >No skills >No racial abilities >no birth sign or standing stones, landscape is littered with single-use "upgrade stones" >no magicka, everyone can use canned spells on a fixed cooldown >Empire will be antagonists because muh anti-imperialism >Black Nords >day-one gacha and mtx >paid mods >illogical time skip filled with retcons >2030 release
He doesnt say that. He says that MAYBE its time for something new, and that change is never easy - its a messy business.
So suppose empire dissolves, then what? You already got Thalmor fricking shit up. So there is that. What else?
>empire dissolves
Either into a federation or confederation. Otherwise its just same old bullshit - endless wars between Morrowind and Skyrim and Argonia over clay, same old shit with High Rock vs Hammerfell, and so long and so forth, unless some OTHER nation from OTHER continent invades or makes a calamity.
>went into active development following Starfield's release
that's promising actually, it means they can take Starfield's failures into account from the start with this game and avoid repeating them
>implying that Bugthesda is going to learn from their mistakes
fricking lol.
Starslop had a lot of the same frickups their games since fricking Skyrim have had, what makes you think they're going to improve anything instead of continuing to sit on their laurels, do jack shit, and have people buy it up like crazy?
If we're lucky (and that's a big fricking if) ES6 will be a huge flop so they stop making garbage and actually get their shit together or they shut down and their IP's have the chance of going to a studio that'll actually do something with them instead of make two mediocre games and one dumpster fire in a decade.
Starfield learned from the mistakes they made with Fallout. It just made even more new mistakes. I'm excited to see the bold new ways they can frick up TES6.
>Only a single armor slot (with toggleable helm) >Dual wielding removed >Horses are in but they can't be ridden >No lakes or any water, invisible wall before the ocean >Dragons are abundant and the fights are copy pasted from Skyrim
>Fired over a moronic b***h who made claims about shit 11 years earlier
As a man, what the frick are you even supposed to do? Can you sue them? Is it even possible? Until these moronic me-too c**ts see actual consequences this crap is just going to continue.
will be antagonists because muh anti-imperialism
Empire should be antagonists because they're a bunch of homosexual globalists like the Romans they're based on. TED.
b***h there has been multiple empires in TES and they always been a force of good
why don't you go and suck off some merchant in the name of "democracy" in hindsight that's all what you can do and it's what you are best at it
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Was there absolutely zero quality control or do these just look like normal people to the indians who made them?
>Black Nords
I swear to fricking god get off pol shit is rotting your brain. the frick does this even mean? We know there are people from all the provinces who were born there or just wandered somewhere else to live
So a khajiit born in Valenwood is now a bosmer? >humans are humans—
So a bosmer born to slave parents in Summerset is now an altmer? >you’re racist
Get new material, moron.
>completely multicultural provinces even though they are supposed to have a native population >half the relationships are interracial or gay, you walk into a house there is a redguard man with his nord wife >all the cool and strong male characters have a gay twist to their story >all the strong leader characters are female >black nords, black imperials, black bretons, but never white redguards >altmer are comic book nazis, MC high elf has no other option but to be a cuck who goes against them >player voice acting is back >inon zur souless music >system requirements up despite the graphics looking like starfield's
the one time I'll consider shazamBlack person doomposting probable, I don't trust Bethesda since 76 to release anything that won't take a year to be playable and yet I hate weightless Bethesda combat anyways so I don't WANT to play it
this is the truth and it's ultimately because guys like Todd are in charge and nobody at Bethesda has the balls or the standing to say "but Todd that's boring/stupid as frick"
The higher ups that don't pay attention to the actual dev process just see that the game sells a million units and give the thumbs up to keep doing the same shit despite reviews trashing it, winning no awards, and having zero staying power
Anyone who still has hope for this game is an ACTUAL NPC and cannot be saved.
>Began production after Starfield
So at least 6 years until release probably.
If they continue their trend of dumbing down the RPG mechanics with every single Bethesda release even in spite of the market proving that people will buy actual RPG games then yeah its going to be a fricking disaster
If they keep up that trend ES6 will have no RPG elements at all, Starfield was just BARELY an RPG.
It's funny to me that, Todd were so excited about radiant ai crap back in 2000 with Oblivion even though he couldn't make it happen bc how 'advanced & intelligent' the NPC schedule was, even better than any immersive sim RPG at that that time. Now 20 years later, Bethesda still won't do a damn thing about radiant ai wtih neither Fallout-crap 4 nor Starshiet like its just funny to me, I bet if someone were brave enough to ask Todd during interview about it he would kill himself on the spot LMAO
Every loregay who knows their shit cares about Redguard, It was basically the first game in the series set in the Tamriel that exists today and its Pocket Guide to the Empire estabilishes a bunch of important shit. It's a pretty important game for TES history.
Africa IS super interesting lorewise. >Birthplace of humanity >Egypt alone has a fascinating history spanning millennia followed by its conquest by Persia, then Alexander >further west North Africa was colonized by the Phoenicians who broke off and formed Carthage >then that was conquered by Rome >then that was conquered by the Vandals, why does nobody talk about the fact there were German steppe nomads crucifying Romans in Carthage for being degenerates
Sure, there's little documentation on Sub-Saharan Africa, but what we know is fascinating. It's a fricking shithole where even actual chimpanzees engage in warfare against eachother. There's multiple entire tribes of tiny pygmy motherfrickers half your height living in the jungle getting fricked over by everyone else, how the frick have they survived, how long have they been there, nobody even knows.
>Thinking africa is boring
Cringe, even the americas are more interesting than africa
Africa IS super interesting lorewise. >Birthplace of humanity >Egypt alone has a fascinating history spanning millennia followed by its conquest by Persia, then Alexander >further west North Africa was colonized by the Phoenicians who broke off and formed Carthage >then that was conquered by Rome >then that was conquered by the Vandals, why does nobody talk about the fact there were German steppe nomads crucifying Romans in Carthage for being degenerates
Sure, there's little documentation on Sub-Saharan Africa, but what we know is fascinating. It's a fricking shithole where even actual chimpanzees engage in warfare against eachother. There's multiple entire tribes of tiny pygmy motherfrickers half your height living in the jungle getting fricked over by everyone else, how the frick have they survived, how long have they been there, nobody even knows.
yeah yeah I'm sure we exited the holow earth from Antarctica or whatever dumbass
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Isn't hollow earth in support of Africa being the birthplace of humanity?
The ones underground weren't even human.
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>Isn't hollow earth in support of Africa being the birthplace of humanity?
There are many different variants of hollow earth. For instance numerous native tribes in both North and South America claim their people came from an underground world to live on the surface. Arguably pretty much every Indo-European religion/culture also historically believed in a literal underworld under the earth, which would necessitate a hollow earth.
Not op, but the out of africa theory has been debunked a million times.
The same way that there are monkeys everywhere, there were also primordial humans everywhere, constantly intermingling and advancing across many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of years.
You find ancient humans everywhere, they only got restricted to certain regions during massive die-off periods.
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>germanic tribes crossing the Rhine for the millionteenth time
agreed, on the condition that the region is handled well story-wise. which is beyond bethesda's capabilities tho. most likely they'll repeat empire vs stormcloaks but not their names are switched to forebears vs crowns. plus some thalmor sprinkled across the map.
The moving trees, the toxic wizard swamp, the political intrigue of bretons, the akaviri samurai, the elf racists. I could go on and on but there's no point since the lore is dead anyway. Todd watched black panther and told his useful idiots they were doing that now. lore be damned.
>You're just racist
Yes I am. And really proud of it.
Racism is a good character trait, helps make you aware of every aspect of your life compared to other races.
I don't do crimes, or use violence needlessly. I'm well aware of my flaws & my strong points. I don't blame anyone else for the consequences of my own choices. The gods smile at me... Can you say the same. Or can just mock like a pathetic loser, victim of your own weaknesses
Yes. But it was interesting specifically because of how much the player could interact with it in Daggerfall. That level of interaction will not exist in TES6
>Blacks are genocidal shitheads who destroyed their own land and aren't related to the white humans, to the point where the blacks are from a totally different reality altogether
Lmao, TES is racist m8, based toddy
>Redguards aren't even from Tamriel let alone having any relation to the Nedic/Atmorans/Nibenese peoples going by their creation story via The Monomyth >heavy implications that they bounced in from another kalpa and have been doing this for a while destroying the lands before jumping out
Redguard lore IS unironically interesting as they are world-hopping Arabic sword-singing Samurai who may or may not have been the last vestiges of the Men races from a previous kalpa and they have weird gods like Satakal and Tall Papa and Sep and shit…
But guess what! Kirkbride isn’t at Bugthesda anymore so all that will be whitewashed to shit and will be replaced with we wuz Wakandans n SHIEEEET
Colonized places flourished because Whites brought civilization and forced their superior culture onto savages. The Altmer are a death cult who don't care if people eat de bugs like what we have in the WEF/Bohemian Grove today.
Anon, I checked the loverlab mod to if at least there was something in the work to enventualy buy it one day and play a SF space porn fantasy. Even the charater in the sample pic of the few mod present are fricking ugly.
There is no saving.
I have never been as frustrated and actively annoyed by a video game character. What’s worse is they made a world with endless story choices, lore about wars and power struggles, yet chose that as the main story. It’s like a demo that they rushed out the door
If somehow ES:VI is finally a nextgen game they deliver and it's super fun and moddable and people play it 1000 hours like Skyrim? He'll cement his legacy as something more than the Prince of Lies.
No. Bethesda will spontaneously reverse their nearly 10-year trajectory. Their writers will suddenly become talented and creative. Their gameplay designers will suddenly try something new. Their multi-decade old engine will suddenly upgrade itself. Their programmers will suddenly stop being from India. It's happening. Todd will win.
That is the level of writing you need in video games .
Morrowind Evil wizard lives in the volcano. Go get him
Oblivion Gates to hell are opening everywhere. Go close them
Skyrim Dragons Motherfricker. Go get em
After Oblivion and Skyrim, I thought that Bethesda is taking some wrong steps, but still ultimately creates unique and interesting games. So, I wished that they could learn from their mistakes, but I wasn’t too worried even though I still didn’t have too much hope for Morrowind tier masterpieces.
After Fallout 4, I thought that they hit the nadir and hoped that they would take the right lessons from it. Things looked bad, but if they treated it like a failed experiment, they still could go back.
With Starfield, I finally accepted that there is no hope. They clearly don’t even know why people liked their games in the first place, and when studio hits that point, it is usually done for. For example, look at Volition. Bethesda is going the same way.
If they continue their trend of dumbing down the RPG mechanics with every single Bethesda release even in spite of the market proving that people will buy actual RPG games then yeah its going to be a fricking disaster
I never implied that was likely however there is still hope in a post Baldur's Gate 3 world that Todd will accept that people do buy and play RPG games
Didn't happen in the post New Vegas world, nor the post Witcher 3 world. Bethesda don't move with the industry aside from regarding muh grafficks. If you listen to any interview with any of their important people, it's painfully obvious not a single one has played any of their games' competitors from the last decade plus. Bethesda's leadership is stuck in 2004 which is why Todd STILL talks about mundane shit as if it's the deepest thing ever.
It might be ok?
Starfield should be a massive wake-up call for them, and it's much easier to build ontop of 20 years of worldbuilding than creating brand new universe.
Procedural generation actually can help it, as long as the world is actually full open-world and seamless - think something like a scaled down daggerfall. They can keep the major settlements handcrafted, but fill in the spaces in-between with procedural content. As long as they don't just place premade structures randomly like with starfield, but actually use a wave-function-collapse or model-synthesis to create procedural structures.
Microsoft should really try and get the teams working together from across all of the first-party studios as well.
I don't think people realize that Oblivion was actually procedurally generated in development and only a tiny fraction of it was hand crafted Also nobody remembers any part of Oblivions world because it was fricking boring
seeing how starfield was a huge disappointment, then yeah, ill say its doomed.
i know you can argue and say "they will just look at the faults from starfield and improve on them".
no. they arent going to do that.
The things that made Starfield shit probably won't be in TESVI + the setting will carry it hard. Bethesda has a chance to use the things they are good at - giving you a set world filled with content to do.
The thing with Starfield is that it took the one thing Bethesda games are great at, and just completely removed it.
The seamless open-world is the only thing BethRPGs have going for them, but Starfield just decided to split everything up into small self contained locations (not even mentioning the proc planets).
TESVI won't have that issue though, so it's guaranteed to be better for that reason alone. And then fantasy is a generally much more interesting setting than grounded sci-fi (for most people, even though I liked starfields setting).
They're face scanned Americans anon. It's entirely deliberate, more quality control will only increase it.
It's thought of as a positive that the game is inclusive enough to show ethnic and body diversity.
Literally, these ugly characters were shown to the shareholders as a sign of how good the game will be and the shareholders said >Fantastic! This will improve chances of the game being successful and making money!
Blaming Indians is now a sterotypical trope in the tech industry.
I blame Microsoft Zenimax Bethesda homosexuals, dykes, Black folk, israelites and stronk womenx of color first before pointing finger at some random Indian pajeet that maybe did a 3D model of some garbage bin for $20 as a freelancer.
Twatter fired DSP and all sorts of fat tumbler dykes and homosexuals and diversity officers. Like the fat cutting trimmed half the employees.
And it works same as before.
Similar thing is happening in all big wesyern tech corps as free low interest credit is over.
Oblivion was shit.
Skyrim was shit.
But now that they're even more corporate, lazy and detached from reality other than how to trick people into thinking it's good for a few days before they get bored of it, I'm sure they'll get it right this time.
You guys complain now but a few years from now when Todd steps onto a stage or appears on a Microsoft stream or whatever and starts hyping up the game and telling you it's gonna be so amazing and great and they're totally not gonna water it down even further from Skyrim you'll all be dancing to his tune. Then the game will come out and surprise surprise Bethesda will have continued to learn nothing about the last 20 (by then almost 30) years of game development and you'll all act shocked and surprised.
If you thought Starfield was really good, you might be slightly disappointed with how it's a little bit less mechanically deep than that, but otherwise enjoy it. Because it's going to be made for Starfield's audience, but slightly dumbed down.
Yes, exactly. There are more people playing Skyrim, and yet they still made Fallout 4. Then they made Starfield. When was the last time a Bethesda game was better than the game that preceded it? Over a decade ago.
Starfield is what Bethesda thinks is a really good game. They do not have the competence to make a game as good as Skyrim again.
it will be a complete fricking trash fire and dumpstered by the core fanbase at release but the normies will still fall for the hype and it will be a financial success anyway, up untill 2 months later when the honeymoon phase ends and even the normies come to realize the game is nothing but bland uninspired slop, the games steam rating will plummet but Bethesda won't care becuase they already have the normies money so in their eyes it was a success.
Starfield was Bethesdas chance to really show people that they're trying to get with the times and actually make something interesting but instead it was just Fallout 4 in space. I have zero hope for ES6. Todd seems stuck in 2009 game development.
That image is like 15 years old at least. The old Todd is long dead. He was always a bit of a talker and a businessman but that's all he is now; the chess club kid who programmed his own games is long gone and he ain't coming back.
It'll be great.
They'll do away with all the boring dialogue and reading so you can focus the important parts of the game like gathering more loot or making a big pile of sandwiches in your house.
They'll get rid of all that stupid confusing shit with perks and skill points or whatever so your character can always do anything you like.
It'll even have so many radiant quests that you can literally play it forever.
I'm so fricking hyped bros.
TES6 will be the first TES game, Emil will be lead designer on. Before it was Kurt Khulman and Bruce Nesmith who were lead designers on ES games but both of them are gone. Emil is the sole senior designer at Bethesda. No one left to stop him.
>fallout 76
LOL. Should be Fallout 4.
As for 76, its so much better than 4 its not even possible to compare the two. Even the fact thats its a fricking always-online, still manages to put it far and above 4.
Take it from someone who recently played vanilla 4, vanilla skyrim, vanilla oblivion (even lvl 1 run sucks ass), and vanilla fallout 3.
Oh, and for the record, vanilla Morrowind is great, but has a lot of issues too - namely leveled lists and leveled monster spawn tables.
Now that they are not split between starfield and the rest of their projects, that starfield is no longer something they need to care about making "good" first impression since it was a new ip, that they have seen the pitfalls starfield fell into, and that starfield flopped so hard they are on a thin thread of buyers' trust - i feel they might actually put some actual effort into it in order to save face and actually make it at least fun, or maybe even great.
Am i too optimistic? Yes, but i won't pay a single cent for it anyway unless it turns out exceptionally good so i lose nothing from having hope.
The engine was the least of starfield problems though? From what i've seen most starfield issues come from poor design, bland setting and lack of any proper direction, not engine going "Frick that" and hardlocking your entire game like in FO3/NV/Skyrim days
Like, CE1 was already pretty stable during FO4, especially compared to Skyrim. I don't really see any real problems with the engine When it's used properly, not for 76, even though the fact that it still somehow works too is quite telling save for "its old thats why it needs to change".
There are older engines still being used on the market and no one gives a shit about them being that old.
The biggest problem is that Bethesda doesn’t seem to understand why people like their games. People like big, seamless, and coherent open worlds with tons of stuff to discover, and that Bethesda has always delivered, even with fricking Fallout 4 and 76.
But frick that, Bethesda then decides to make a fast-travel patchwork world with hundreds of otherwise empty procgen planets that have nothing to discover except copypasted prefabs chosen from a pool that has less unique dungeons and locations than their previous games had. And worst of all, the studio itself seems to believe that they created some kind of explorer’s dream, when it is the WORST game they have created in regards of exploration yet.
No matter what engine they use, as long as they don’t understand why people liked their Elder Scrolls and Fallout releases, they are doomed to fail.
The sad part is that they keep saying that they understand and try to reassure us of that, but in practice they don’t. They know to parrot exploration in promo interviews, but they clearly don’t know what exploration actually means.
>Starfield I don't even want to pirate
I bought it and played for 15 hours before getting a refund. I kept waiting for it to get good. It did not. Even though I got my money back, I still feel like I got cheated because I can never get that time back.
I think it will sell very well because everyone will meme 'Skyrim 2' and that alone will give it enough notoriety for secondaries to buy millions of copies.
Aside from that though it'll probably have about as much cultural impact and lasting legacy as BG3.
Wabbajack modpacks Blow anything releases Out of the water and you think this Stands a Chance? Niggrfell of all Locations? At Most IT should have been a dlc for Skyrim 2
I have no hope
The buggy mess they call an engine is way too outdated but they cant drop it because its the only thing monkeys at Bethesda know how to code (or do they???)
And they seem to double down on generated AI shit rather than carefully crafted designs, so all the soul is lost
i think the most fun i've had with skyrim was wandering around waiting for random encounters to spawn, aside from stealth archering my path through a few dungeons. and listening to the OST. but no, it doesn't really entice you to see the big questlines through to the end.
Kinda? It's hard to describe. Exploring is fun, and the game is inoffensive enough that once you get into it, it's ok.
But when I start to think about how the combat is literally braindead, magic is neutered, everything RPG has been stripped away or dumbed down to the point it might as well not even exist, every dungeon is a crypt with draugr in it and almost certainly a linear path with a shortcut to the surface at the end. I get disappointed. But always the game has that feel that it could be something more. It could be greater than it is. They were right on the cusp of perfection, if they just pushed a little farther.
With Fallout 4 I didn't feel that. At all. The flaws were too great. The writing was even worse. Everything in the game was overwhelmingly bad. It was the first Bethesda game I played through just once. With Starfield I couldn't even force myself to be mad. Everything was so bland, boring, and poorly done. I no longer have hope. It is the first bethesda game I didn't finish. It's probably the last one I'll play.
People say that based on the teaser trailer released, but that was something like 6 years ago and seemed to be prompted by panic that the public thought Bethesda had no games in the pipeline.
They've only actually started production of TES6 after Starfield, so it's possible that everything in the teaser was thrown out and they started again.
Hammerfell would be obvious as a sequel to Skyrim's backstory of Empire/Humans vs Thalmor, but Skyrim will be about 17 years old when TES6 releases so maybe they're just going to reboot the setting like they did between Oblivion and Skyrim. In that case they could do any province next.
Microsoft put their own people on the board of zenimax after starflop. This is so over, it couldn't possibly more over. Look at the trajectory of this series. It's a steep decline from Morrowind. There's no talent left that can make something interesting. It's all coming from the perpetually uncreative Todd and his childhood friends. They've made bad decisions ever since Todd wormed his way into his current position which was after morrowind. It's fricking done. Not even remotely interested in this.
let's see, bethesda hasn't released a good game since they let another studio make new vegas. before that it was morrowind. so, the last time bethesda themselves made a good game was over 20 years ago. but nah yeah i'm sure they'll do it right this time
My hopes and dreams for this game died when Starfield came out, Bethesda just isn't up to snuff anymore. TESVI: Wakanda will be a mediocre piece of shit.
Bethesda already stopped making good games long before da ebil juden told them to make everyone some abominable albanian-nigerian hybrid. If making all the night shift gas station attendant looking NPCs in Starfield white is enough to make it worth paying for in your eyes then you're a moron
No? Why the frick would it? People will buy it because its Elder Scrolls 6, a sequal to fricking Skyrim.
People want it because its going to be more Skyrim but with a never grapihcs and a different envrioment.
They want their fantasy loot and kill simulator that they can grind endlessly for hundreds of hours and few more hundred hours on top once theres enough mods.
Theres nothing that will stop this game from making tons of money because there are honestly people still looking forward to it fully knowing everything about past and current Bethesda games and those kinds of people will eat literal shit if it comes in a correct package.
I haven't purchased a bethesda game since fallout 4. I'm a hardcore elder scrollsgay, I even purchased Skyrim several times mistakingly believing that sales would be used to fund TES VI.
unless that game borders on perfection those c**ts aren't getting another penny from me. I'll pirate it at best if it turns out looking like shit.
>After Starfailed people will wait.
Nah, you are gravely overestimating the average brightness of bethesda fans. And the elder scrolls name still hasn't been ruined yet by a catastrophic release.
I believe in Todd. It's going to be the last game he'll ever make. It's the game that will make or break his entire legacy. Surely he won't let any jeet or troony devs or Emil get in the way.
Starfield's failure gives me even more hope since now bethesda is on thin ice and has no leeway for their next game. TES6 will be their maximum effort project now in order to save face, which will mean that it will be either a great game every single worker there put whatever remnants of an imitation of a soul they might have into, or be such a fricking travesty it that India will start WW3 in order to reach bethesda's offices and shit right down Todd's doorstep for even suggesting to them to shill something so shitty.
These are the closing games of bethesda... and the final hours of Todd's fame.
Starfield's failure gives me even more hope since now bethesda is on thin ice and has no leeway for their next game. TES6 will be their maximum effort project now in order to save face, which will mean that it will be either a great game every single worker there put whatever remnants of an imitation of a soul they might have into, or be such a fricking travesty it that India will start WW3 in order to reach bethesda's offices and shit right down Todd's doorstep for even suggesting to them to shill something so shitty.
These are the closing games of bethesda... and the final hours of Todd's fame.
Elder Scrolls hasn't been ruined yet like every other media franchise white men love.
Take the hint, spare yourself from being utterly disappointed.
It's over for video games, tv, and movies. White men have to focus on escaping the clownworld once and for all, so that we all can have big tiddy ayy waifus in space.
>Place the game on one continent instead of space and multiple planets >Game is instantly x10 better
Starfield has no effect on TES, so I'm not worried.
It's funny that Ganker doesn't even want a good game, they want Bethesda to fail. >"bethesda sucks etc etc"
You wouldn't obsess about bethesda if the games sucked, you're not fooling anyone
I just really hope it's not fricking safe >Oh I'm a warrior from the empire, war sucks doesn't it? >*Quest* >Bring me a piece of iron...so I can do armor >Thanks for the piece
I feel like there's so many games with this safe shit that's just fricking boring, make it crazy fun
It'll be even more streamlined than Skyrim so yes, it's doomed.
Modders can fix a lot of things about Skyrim, but they can't fix the shitty quest design so even then, I doubt TES 6 will be much better in that regard.
They're going to make the world fantasy California like they made Starfield California in space. All the factions are going to be ethnically diverse but have the exact same culture so it'll look diverse in trailers but be completely homogeneous if you actually engage with the game. It's going to be boring as shit. This company isn't even based in California I don't get it.
Starfield's main issue was it just being Fallout 4 but everything was spread the frick out with huge dead zones for no reason.
Fallout 4 had the opposite problem of vomiting content at you like an Ubisoft designer on cocaine. There was no room to breath and the only open spaces operated under the assumption you were going to do the dumb settlement building shit.
A lot of Bethesda's recent failures are innate to the specific product.
Skyrim 2 hopefully shouldn't have the issue of a spaceship and all its loading screens, or having to produce plumbing with potable water and electricity for some random ass place.
How about you start as anyone you like. Any rank, position or race. Allow the player to customize everything about himself. Frick the forced placement and Forced backstory.
I despise Bethesda's LE CHOSEN ONE shit so much it's unreal. Even in Oblivion where you're Martin's second fiddle it is LE YOUR DESTINY to be the sidekick of the real hero.
I just want some smallscale adventures where I'm just a dude who can fail and it isn't the end of the world.
I know it won't happen because Oblivion and Skyrim have made it a thing that you're the chosen one in a non-ambiguous way and they're too chicken shit as a company to stray from that.
This. They've had the player be the Dragonborn in the last 3 games they've released. It's getting a bit old now.
I despise Bethesda's LE CHOSEN ONE shit so much it's unreal. Even in Oblivion where you're Martin's second fiddle it is LE YOUR DESTINY to be the sidekick of the real hero.
God this.
I just want some smallscale adventures where I'm just a dude who can fail and it isn't the end of the world.
I know it won't happen because Oblivion and Skyrim have made it a thing that you're the chosen one in a non-ambiguous way and they're too chicken shit as a company to stray from that.
they saw how well it worked in morrowind and then even more in skyrim (despite its worse execution) so at this point they're never going to stray from the high stakes END OF LE WORLD prophecy stories
I mean for frick's sake they couldn't contain themselves from saying how starfield is their first new big thing in a gorillion years and then the story is still just more prophecy slop
At least Morrowind was ambiguous about whether you were the actual chosen one or whether it was all a load of shit and things just worked out and you just so happened to vaguely tick some boxes that fit the legends. Skyrim is straight up you are the dragonborn you are the one who sucks off dragon souls and shit.
Morrowind allows itself to have some ambiguity at least. I know Azura comes to have chat with you but that doesn't necessarily mean you're Nerevar reborn - you're just some schmuck who managed to jump through enough hoops to make it seem that way, and you had a good deal of help getting there.
I kind of wish Oblivion's main story started when you stumble upon Kvatch for the first time, and then stick with Martin after helping him and the others trapped in the church.
It's vaporware at this point. Don't expect anything, and if you do expect something, look at Fallout 76 and *Tarfield as examples of what to expect 😐 I want it to be good. I doubt it will be good.
>at least in terms of potential
Doesn't mean anything. >I totally love the theoretical TES from 20 years ago with nostalgia glasses and mods guys, btw there's no chance for that
Are you for real?
Why do you think I hate one of my favorite game series to date?
You're one weird guy.
Anyways, my hopes for the next title may be low to nonexistent due to the way modern Bethesda operates, but I still would like it if the new title succeeded.
I am not cheering for Bethesdas' failure, I mere;y have little to no hope left at this point.
>Why do you think I hate one of my favorite game series to date?
Oh let me guess, the insufferable whining homosexual just cares too much? But his heart is broken because a video game wasn't good enough? Kek
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the insufferable whining homosexual
You?
Anyways, I want the next title to be great, but I highly, highly doubt it will be.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I want the next title to be great, but I highly, highly doubt it will be
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything. Which TES was great in your mind, without conditions?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing seems to mean anything to you unless it's a negative inference or implication.
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I liked Morrowind when I played it for the first time on my friend's modded xbox in 2010 or so. I liked Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and I liked Skyrim too. I played all unmodded, but i love mods too, of course. In fact I make mods for myself now!
I want to try Daggerfall sometime too, because it looks fun, but Bethesda doesn't appear to want to make those kind of games anymore.
It wants to make TES Online, Fallout 76 and *Tarfield.
What games do you like? Any?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I love Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. I've also made mods. I don't see the need to "lose hope" because of spin-offs made by others and a space game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I see nothing to hope for, and honestly our conversation has made me feel even more hopeless about it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't be such a pussy, they're video games.
4 months ago
Anonymous
What does that even mean?
You know, I am fairly certain you're paid to be here, and dissuade critics, and that's why I feel a little more hopeless, because *if* that's the case (I don't know for certain) then that would indicate the next game is going to be an even bigger flop than we expect, and that is sincerely depressing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, you schizo, Todd paid me to call a random anon a pussy, because that's just how much you matter to the grand scheme of things (but you can't know for certain)
4 months ago
Anonymous
You had no point, and the reason I suspect you are a shill is because you are acting like one. You went out of your way to make a big deal over my first post in this thread because I dared to criticize the latest games from modern Bethesda, and you continue to do so.
If you're not a shill, then you're still acting like one. So I guess it really doesn't matter.
I'm sure the next game will flop anyhow.
To think I used to preorder games. Lol. Those days are long past...
RIP
Morrowind is fun as frick unmodded even on xbox because of bugthesda's bugs. I would use the soul trap spell glitch and just summon a permanent army of minons to kill everything in the game.
>Morrowind is fun as frick unmodded even on xbox because of bugthesda's bugs.
I once made a potion which increased my speed by 27,000+ points, and then I took one step (with levitation) from Balmora I *think*, and ended up over that lake in Solstheim with a composite map of all the areas I should have crossed over.
I looked around, then the game crashed, and I laughed.
Good times.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't see the need to "lose hope"
Did you see how hard Todd shilled for Starfield? The game Todd wanted to make his entire life, and that he also wanted to make it last until TESVI (2030). That's the piece of shit we got.
Honestly, I think you're blind if you haven't noticed the inevitable decay of Bethesda since Fallout 4.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Todd shilled for Redguard, and Morrowind came afterwards.
Totally unexplainable mystery! This goes against everything we would think!
4 months ago
Anonymous
Morrowind is fun as frick unmodded even on xbox because of bugthesda's bugs. I would use the soul trap spell glitch and just summon a permanent army of minons to kill everything in the game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Agreed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
Are you moronic?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I want you to be great, but I highly doubt you will be.
4 months ago
Anonymous
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
>at least in terms of potential
Doesn't mean anything. >I totally love the theoretical TES from 20 years ago with nostalgia glasses and mods guys, btw there's no chance for that
>Why do you think I hate one of my favorite game series to date?
Oh let me guess, the insufferable whining homosexual just cares too much? But his heart is broken because a video game wasn't good enough? Kek
With how Starfield turned out after almost a whole decade. I dont know how anyone could be hype for TES6. Bethesda doesnt know any way to make a different game.
I don't know how they could possibly make it any more casual than Skyrim. The worst you have to fear is that it might be an even more buggy piece of shit.
The degree in which people in the industry feel the need to come out to defend Emil Pagliarulo speaks volumes....... these people don't get it. Why does Emil Pagliarulo need defending? Bethesda should either improve the quality of their games or they should enjoy the criticisms they deservingly have been getting.
I would not be surprised if TESVI is found to be procedurally generated for the majority of the game.
Bethesda, the lazy fricks, have this obsession over the prospect of infinite quests despite knowing full well people prefer handcrafted content.
Todd has proven multiple times now he can't be trusted. Even his "I wanted to make this game for 25 years" passion project, Starfield, was a fricking mediocre slog.
I still holding out hope that they'll learn the right lessons from SF and do a good job with TES6. Yes, I'm a moron but I love TES and I might be in denial.
HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS
A PIC OF THE HIGH QUEEN OF HAMMERFELL IN TES6 WAS JUST NOW LEAKED, APPARENTLY SHE'S THE TRUE HERO OF THE STORY AND IS CALLED NAZEEMA CLOUD-BORN >pic related
if it's actually set in Hammerfell then i want to be a Sword Singer, be the Anime Swordsman, i want to make crazy moves and make fantastical cuts, and after Starfield i do not see them delivering that, so as far as i am concerned, unless there is something that shows me melee combat has improved i don't see myself getting TES VI unless on heavy discounts or for Free.
Every single game by Todd since Skyrim has been "so bad it's good" situation. They are all 0/10 but the sheer confidence with which Todd advertised them makes them kind of impressive. This thing got stale with Starfield so it flopped. TES 6 will be either improve the formula (less than 10% chance) or flop even harder than SF.
>TES 6 will be either improve the formula
Can't improve what already peaked, moron. Maybe when you figure out how to make your own blockbuster series you'll figure that out.
well, they did release several games inbetween which weren't Skyrim success so i don't get your passive aggresivness, but it was a flop because they spent so much getting the game made and that time could've easily been allocated elsewhere, all these new devs cut their teeth on Starfield are now going to run Bethesda, what Starfield is, is the future of all Bethesda studios games
>it was a flop because they could've made something else
This is your brain on Ganker >now starfield is all they can do >because it just is
Ok sure that makes sense
Bethesda is a company that doesn't learn. They keep repeating the same mistakes, and they keep making the same game over and over again. Also they never innovate with anything. Starfield has shown that they are out of touch with reality
unless they find a way to up their game, make new engine and hire some quality storywritters and tech people they're fricked. another low effort starfield tier kusoge will bury them for good.
Following the general trend from Oblivion, past Fallout 3, through Skyrim, then Fallout 4 and then Starfield, you think TES6 will be good? Ofcourse not.
Yes.
>procgen slop
>No skills
>No racial abilities
>no birth sign or standing stones, landscape is littered with single-use "upgrade stones"
>no magicka, everyone can use canned spells on a fixed cooldown
>Empire will be antagonists because muh anti-imperialism
>Black Nords
>day-one gacha and mtx
>paid mods
>illogical time skip filled with retcons
>2030 release
Yes. If Starslop went with the EGS pump'n'dump scheme there's no reason to believe this one won't be even worse. Think this but worse.
>Empire is the good guys in Skyrim
>Empire is the bad guys in Hammerfell.
I can see it already based on homosexuals like
>Empire is the good guys in Skyrim
Talos himself in Morrowind said empire should just fricking dissolve. You need a better bait than that.
He doesnt say that. He says that MAYBE its time for something new, and that change is never easy - its a messy business.
So suppose empire dissolves, then what? You already got Thalmor fricking shit up. So there is that. What else?
>empire dissolves
Either into a federation or confederation. Otherwise its just same old bullshit - endless wars between Morrowind and Skyrim and Argonia over clay, same old shit with High Rock vs Hammerfell, and so long and so forth, unless some OTHER nation from OTHER continent invades or makes a calamity.
No he didn't disingenuous little shit, he said maybe it's time for change, and it did change
Mede II is fricking based as frick
If change means losing almost all of their territory and getting Imperial City sacked well then yes it absolutely did
we don't know if the thalmor won or not until TES6
so there might not even be an empire at all
>The Empire are the good guys in elder scrolls
were you high when you played the games?
the empire was never the good guys in anything, they were always just a neutral force in existence
>went into active development following Starfield's release
that's promising actually, it means they can take Starfield's failures into account from the start with this game and avoid repeating them
the duality of man
>implying that Bugthesda is going to learn from their mistakes
fricking lol.
Starslop had a lot of the same frickups their games since fricking Skyrim have had, what makes you think they're going to improve anything instead of continuing to sit on their laurels, do jack shit, and have people buy it up like crazy?
If we're lucky (and that's a big fricking if) ES6 will be a huge flop so they stop making garbage and actually get their shit together or they shut down and their IP's have the chance of going to a studio that'll actually do something with them instead of make two mediocre games and one dumpster fire in a decade.
>bethesda
>learning from mistakes
You're a funny guy.
Starfield learned from the mistakes they made with Fallout. It just made even more new mistakes. I'm excited to see the bold new ways they can frick up TES6.
>bethesda learning from their mistakes
>learning
>bethesda
pick one
haha no
>they can take Starfield's failures into account from the start with this game and avoid repeating them
>Black Nords
I'm out
You forgot that in addition to all of this, the lore will be extremely generic and boring. And the dialog will be like this
>Black person: Well, that just happened.
>Only a single armor slot (with toggleable helm)
>Dual wielding removed
>Horses are in but they can't be ridden
>No lakes or any water, invisible wall before the ocean
>Dragons are abundant and the fights are copy pasted from Skyrim
>black nords
Oh god, I hadnt even though of that yet.
no Jeremy Soule
no soul
>hes not coming back
This one hurts. Zur is okay but he doesn't have the sovle.
>Fired over a moronic b***h who made claims about shit 11 years earlier
As a man, what the frick are you even supposed to do? Can you sue them? Is it even possible? Until these moronic me-too c**ts see actual consequences this crap is just going to continue.
will be antagonists because muh anti-imperialism
Empire should be antagonists because they're a bunch of homosexual globalists like the Romans they're based on. TED.
b***h there has been multiple empires in TES and they always been a force of good
why don't you go and suck off some merchant in the name of "democracy" in hindsight that's all what you can do and it's what you are best at it
indians are not people they are not even human
>why don't you go and suck off some merchant in the name of "democracy" in hindsight that's all what you can do and it's what you are best at it
"..."
>there has been multiple empires in TES and they always been a force of good
holy oblivion zoomer
>trusting the elves and lessor races to not burn down everything
Someone buck break this redguard
2023! The won't be out till like 2032. Humans will probably have landed on Mars when this is out
Nords
I swear to god if there are black nords I'm gonna fly to Todd's house just to leave a shit on his doorstep
The sad thing is I actually think everything in your post is true.
Yeah it's sad you're moronic
>Black Nords
I swear to fricking god get off pol shit is rotting your brain. the frick does this even mean? We know there are people from all the provinces who were born there or just wandered somewhere else to live
So a khajiit born in Valenwood is now a bosmer?
>humans are humans—
So a bosmer born to slave parents in Summerset is now an altmer?
>you’re racist
Get new material, moron.
nords are a distinct race though
moron. Black Nords is like saying black white people.
… so, what, the Irish?
The black nord damage control already in drafting
TES babies are solely, 100% the race of their mothers, there are no Black person nords
updooted!
chuds need to accept that the original vikings WERE BLACK
>6 happened as soon as they finished slopfield
oh boy
>completely multicultural provinces even though they are supposed to have a native population
>half the relationships are interracial or gay, you walk into a house there is a redguard man with his nord wife
>all the cool and strong male characters have a gay twist to their story
>all the strong leader characters are female
>black nords, black imperials, black bretons, but never white redguards
>altmer are comic book nazis, MC high elf has no other option but to be a cuck who goes against them
>player voice acting is back
>inon zur souless music
>system requirements up despite the graphics looking like starfield's
the one time I'll consider shazamBlack person doomposting probable, I don't trust Bethesda since 76 to release anything that won't take a year to be playable and yet I hate weightless Bethesda combat anyways so I don't WANT to play it
the Sims in an Elder Scrolls setting
this is the truth and it's ultimately because guys like Todd are in charge and nobody at Bethesda has the balls or the standing to say "but Todd that's boring/stupid as frick"
The higher ups that don't pay attention to the actual dev process just see that the game sells a million units and give the thumbs up to keep doing the same shit despite reviews trashing it, winning no awards, and having zero staying power
also that rosa parks reference that leaked
Anyone who still has hope for this game is an ACTUAL NPC and cannot be saved.
>Began production after Starfield
So at least 6 years until release probably.
If they keep up that trend ES6 will have no RPG elements at all, Starfield was just BARELY an RPG.
I'm screencaping this post and putting it into my reminder folder, because I KNOW the majority of those are gonna turn out true.
>No Radiant AI technology from TES IV
It's funny to me that, Todd were so excited about radiant ai crap back in 2000 with Oblivion even though he couldn't make it happen bc how 'advanced & intelligent' the NPC schedule was, even better than any immersive sim RPG at that that time. Now 20 years later, Bethesda still won't do a damn thing about radiant ai wtih neither Fallout-crap 4 nor Starshiet like its just funny to me, I bet if someone were brave enough to ask Todd during interview about it he would kill himself on the spot LMAO
What's there to do? Reminder that no one gave a shit about the things done with it. They added some features in Skyrim and made it more stable.
>Black Nords
TES 6 will be good if doomer homosexual OP manages to lose his virginity this year.
you're a damn fool if you're hyped for this game
Microsoft is going to insist on Hammerfell for the woke points.
It is DOA.
Hammerfell is probably the most interesting region lore wise, aside maybe from Valenwood. You're just racist
I see the Microsoft shill team is already hard at work.
>most interesting region lore wise
and dropped
> Dry desert area the most interesting.
> Not the mountainous region with wizard towers.
> Not the literal dream island.
> Or basically Mordor.
>Hammerfell is probably the most interesting region lore wise
This, but the complete opposite.
there's already a Hammerfell game and nobody cares except Todd
Every loregay who knows their shit cares about Redguard, It was basically the first game in the series set in the Tamriel that exists today and its Pocket Guide to the Empire estabilishes a bunch of important shit. It's a pretty important game for TES history.
>africa is probably the most interesting region lorewise, aside from israel, you are just racist
is probably the most interesting region lorewise
This is actually the case irl thoughever
Cringe, even the americas are more interesting than africa
Africa IS super interesting lorewise.
>Birthplace of humanity
>Egypt alone has a fascinating history spanning millennia followed by its conquest by Persia, then Alexander
>further west North Africa was colonized by the Phoenicians who broke off and formed Carthage
>then that was conquered by Rome
>then that was conquered by the Vandals, why does nobody talk about the fact there were German steppe nomads crucifying Romans in Carthage for being degenerates
Sure, there's little documentation on Sub-Saharan Africa, but what we know is fascinating. It's a fricking shithole where even actual chimpanzees engage in warfare against eachother. There's multiple entire tribes of tiny pygmy motherfrickers half your height living in the jungle getting fricked over by everyone else, how the frick have they survived, how long have they been there, nobody even knows.
>Birthplace of humanity
1987 wants its hypothesis back
yeah yeah I'm sure we exited the holow earth from Antarctica or whatever dumbass
Isn't hollow earth in support of Africa being the birthplace of humanity?
The ones underground weren't even human.
>Isn't hollow earth in support of Africa being the birthplace of humanity?
There are many different variants of hollow earth. For instance numerous native tribes in both North and South America claim their people came from an underground world to live on the surface. Arguably pretty much every Indo-European religion/culture also historically believed in a literal underworld under the earth, which would necessitate a hollow earth.
based af frick post
so whats your new updated theory?
Not op, but the out of africa theory has been debunked a million times.
The same way that there are monkeys everywhere, there were also primordial humans everywhere, constantly intermingling and advancing across many hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of years.
You find ancient humans everywhere, they only got restricted to certain regions during massive die-off periods.
>germanic tribes crossing the Rhine for the millionteenth time
>using debunked fringe science in an argument
lol
>Thinking africa is boring
Secondaries are a disease
agreed, on the condition that the region is handled well story-wise. which is beyond bethesda's capabilities tho. most likely they'll repeat empire vs stormcloaks but not their names are switched to forebears vs crowns. plus some thalmor sprinkled across the map.
>Hammerfell is probably the most interesting region lore wise
That's not Akavir
Weeb moment, Akavir is gay and boring as shit
The moving trees, the toxic wizard swamp, the political intrigue of bretons, the akaviri samurai, the elf racists. I could go on and on but there's no point since the lore is dead anyway. Todd watched black panther and told his useful idiots they were doing that now. lore be damned.
>mfw Yokudan sword singer pirates are replaced with we wuz Septims n shiet
Grim
>literal shills already exist for ES6
Microshit isn't the richest company on the planet for no reason fellas.
>You're just racist
Yes I am. And really proud of it.
Racism is a good character trait, helps make you aware of every aspect of your life compared to other races.
I don't do crimes, or use violence needlessly. I'm well aware of my flaws & my strong points. I don't blame anyone else for the consequences of my own choices. The gods smile at me... Can you say the same. Or can just mock like a pathetic loser, victim of your own weaknesses
Yes. But it was interesting specifically because of how much the player could interact with it in Daggerfall. That level of interaction will not exist in TES6
Hey, I'm not JUST racist, I'm sexist and homoist too.
Utterly incorrect.
>Blacks are genocidal shitheads who destroyed their own land and aren't related to the white humans, to the point where the blacks are from a totally different reality altogether
Lmao, TES is racist m8, based toddy
Human darkies blow up their homeland by messing with things beyond their understanding.
Merrish darkies blow up their homeland by messing with things beyond their understanding
Presented without commentary.
>Redguards aren't even from Tamriel let alone having any relation to the Nedic/Atmorans/Nibenese peoples going by their creation story via The Monomyth
>heavy implications that they bounced in from another kalpa and have been doing this for a while destroying the lands before jumping out
>the amount of thalmorchuds and imperialolems on Ganker
Redguard lore IS unironically interesting as they are world-hopping Arabic sword-singing Samurai who may or may not have been the last vestiges of the Men races from a previous kalpa and they have weird gods like Satakal and Tall Papa and Sep and shit…
But guess what! Kirkbride isn’t at Bugthesda anymore so all that will be whitewashed to shit and will be replaced with we wuz Wakandans n SHIEEEET
isn't morrowind where all the israelites are
The Altmer are from the Sumerset Isles.
moron, Imperials are the real israelites
Imperials are Romans, assimilating cultures like it’s Imperator
Colonized places flourished because Whites brought civilization and forced their superior culture onto savages. The Altmer are a death cult who don't care if people eat de bugs like what we have in the WEF/Bohemian Grove today.
we already had a game called redguard set in hammerfell, you zoomer tards
>Is it doomed?
Take a wild guess. It will still be hyped and will still sell millions, thoughever.
Did anyone bother making porn of her yet?
It's a Bethesda game, the models can be imported by a toddler.
barely any, most of it is AI
Anon, I checked the loverlab mod to if at least there was something in the work to enventualy buy it one day and play a SF space porn fantasy. Even the charater in the sample pic of the few mod present are fricking ugly.
There is no saving.
I have never been as frustrated and actively annoyed by a video game character. What’s worse is they made a world with endless story choices, lore about wars and power struggles, yet chose that as the main story. It’s like a demo that they rushed out the door
the russian lady was better
Can you mod her to be attractive yet?
Brutal dialogue.
> Sarah disliked that
The Creation Kit can't come out soon enough.
>thoughever
>thoughtbeit
Can you homosexuals stop typing like this? Where did you all come from and why are you doing it?
poojeet c-team was working on starfield
a and b team have been working hard to deliver you the greatest gaming experience ever
Whew, thanks Todd, knowing that makes me feel better.
yeah, sure, Todd. You definitely put your worst team on your pet project that you "had been dreaming of making since the chess club"
>starfield was the C team
>failout 76 was the D team
Damn are the A and B teams just kicking back and relaxing Todd?
No, A and B teams cashed in their checks/shares and retired.
their studio always looks so comfy in these pics kek
Bloody basterd. How dare of you to accuse of Starfield team as projects. You know nothing oh there work.
You fricking said the same thing about 76. Face it Bethesda fricking sucks
If somehow ES:VI is finally a nextgen game they deliver and it's super fun and moddable and people play it 1000 hours like Skyrim? He'll cement his legacy as something more than the Prince of Lies.
>If somehow ES:VI is finally a nextgen game
Starfield is 2 generations away from Skyrim, believe it or not.
idk about doomed but I don't have high hopes for it after Starfield and how thoroughly mid FO4 was.
No. Bethesda will spontaneously reverse their nearly 10-year trajectory. Their writers will suddenly become talented and creative. Their gameplay designers will suddenly try something new. Their multi-decade old engine will suddenly upgrade itself. Their programmers will suddenly stop being from India. It's happening. Todd will win.
>10-year
they havent made a good game in 20 years
>written by Emil Pagliarulo
Yes. And even then, most of Ganker will still buy it.
Probably because writing in video games isn't important.
> To me it is
Then read a book while playing tetris and have the best of both worlds
have a nice day
That is the level of writing you need in video games .
Morrowind Evil wizard lives in the volcano. Go get him
Oblivion Gates to hell are opening everywhere. Go close them
Skyrim Dragons Motherfricker. Go get em
Hello sirs. Two rupees have been deposited in your account towards Elder Scrolls VI.
>going from "Emil is actually an amazing writer" to "writing doesn't matter"
Rolstongay character development
Both are true though.
Careful buddy, if you go too much harder that dick will puncture your larynx.
What does writing matter for video games?
uh it's an rpg? the writing is a pretty core component of it
After Oblivion and Skyrim, I thought that Bethesda is taking some wrong steps, but still ultimately creates unique and interesting games. So, I wished that they could learn from their mistakes, but I wasn’t too worried even though I still didn’t have too much hope for Morrowind tier masterpieces.
After Fallout 4, I thought that they hit the nadir and hoped that they would take the right lessons from it. Things looked bad, but if they treated it like a failed experiment, they still could go back.
With Starfield, I finally accepted that there is no hope. They clearly don’t even know why people liked their games in the first place, and when studio hits that point, it is usually done for. For example, look at Volition. Bethesda is going the same way.
Yeah, don't fall for fomo it's a single player game
wait for the reviews
If they continue their trend of dumbing down the RPG mechanics with every single Bethesda release even in spite of the market proving that people will buy actual RPG games then yeah its going to be a fricking disaster
>implying bethesda will break a 25 year old habit
L M A O
I never implied that was likely however there is still hope in a post Baldur's Gate 3 world that Todd will accept that people do buy and play RPG games
Didn't happen in the post New Vegas world, nor the post Witcher 3 world. Bethesda don't move with the industry aside from regarding muh grafficks. If you listen to any interview with any of their important people, it's painfully obvious not a single one has played any of their games' competitors from the last decade plus. Bethesda's leadership is stuck in 2004 which is why Todd STILL talks about mundane shit as if it's the deepest thing ever.
5th edition is barely an RPG system, it's so fricking braindead
It might be ok?
Starfield should be a massive wake-up call for them, and it's much easier to build ontop of 20 years of worldbuilding than creating brand new universe.
Procedural generation actually can help it, as long as the world is actually full open-world and seamless - think something like a scaled down daggerfall. They can keep the major settlements handcrafted, but fill in the spaces in-between with procedural content. As long as they don't just place premade structures randomly like with starfield, but actually use a wave-function-collapse or model-synthesis to create procedural structures.
Microsoft should really try and get the teams working together from across all of the first-party studios as well.
I don't think people realize that Oblivion was actually procedurally generated in development and only a tiny fraction of it was hand crafted Also nobody remembers any part of Oblivions world because it was fricking boring
>Starfield should be a massive wake-up call for them
Wat? What about FO76?
Y-yeah bros! It'll be good I-I'm sure of it! Haha!
oblivion and skyrim weren't
it'll be funny at least, starfield wasn't even funny
seeing how starfield was a huge disappointment, then yeah, ill say its doomed.
i know you can argue and say "they will just look at the faults from starfield and improve on them".
no. they arent going to do that.
The things that made Starfield shit probably won't be in TESVI + the setting will carry it hard. Bethesda has a chance to use the things they are good at - giving you a set world filled with content to do.
There is hope
No Jeremy Soule = No BUY
ITS FRICKING SHIT
Its amazing that he got #meetoo and even when they had no proof hey did anything it still killed his career
I hate americans so much is unreal
here's his accuser
>no evidence
>no charges brought
She looks trustworthy.
holy frick that psycho look
ive seen enough the man is innocent
>the eyes
Every time
she looks very rapeable and he looks like a fat israelite rapist almost like a Dan Schneider twin
>she looks very rapeable
Yurop is even more woke than America. You don't even have a right wing to push back on their shit. Shut the frick up, homosexual
Didn't Denmark just elect an actual Nazi President or Prime Minister?
i legit think i'll have stopped playing video games by the time this releases
The thing with Starfield is that it took the one thing Bethesda games are great at, and just completely removed it.
The seamless open-world is the only thing BethRPGs have going for them, but Starfield just decided to split everything up into small self contained locations (not even mentioning the proc planets).
TESVI won't have that issue though, so it's guaranteed to be better for that reason alone. And then fantasy is a generally much more interesting setting than grounded sci-fi (for most people, even though I liked starfields setting).
Its so doomed you will wish it was never made when they release the pozzed homosexualry niggress of color girlboss goyslop.
They can make everyone a Black person for all I care as long as they put out an actual RPG and not whatever the hell Starfield was supposed to be
>an actual RPG
Perks and looter shooter is all you gonna get.
You asked for it anon and that's what you're gonna get. Except the RPG parts will be complete dogshit hahaha
Was there absolutely zero quality control or do these just look like normal people to the indians who made them?
They're face scanned Americans anon. It's entirely deliberate, more quality control will only increase it.
It's thought of as a positive that the game is inclusive enough to show ethnic and body diversity.
Literally, these ugly characters were shown to the shareholders as a sign of how good the game will be and the shareholders said
>Fantastic! This will improve chances of the game being successful and making money!
Blaming Indians is now a sterotypical trope in the tech industry.
I blame Microsoft Zenimax Bethesda homosexuals, dykes, Black folk, israelites and stronk womenx of color first before pointing finger at some random Indian pajeet that maybe did a 3D model of some garbage bin for $20 as a freelancer.
Do not redeem the deflection, Rajesh.
Twatter fired DSP and all sorts of fat tumbler dykes and homosexuals and diversity officers. Like the fat cutting trimmed half the employees.
And it works same as before.
Similar thing is happening in all big wesyern tech corps as free low interest credit is over.
They literally did more than half the work you absolutely brain-rotted homosexual
They're meant to be space abos
They look like that irl
They made everyone a nog in starfield already.
>Ularu
what kind of mud monkey name is that? the only diversity in space should be the fricking aliens
That is the abo translation for Ayers Rock so shes probably an aussie mutt.
Oblivion was shit.
Skyrim was shit.
But now that they're even more corporate, lazy and detached from reality other than how to trick people into thinking it's good for a few days before they get bored of it, I'm sure they'll get it right this time.
They are going to double down on what made starfield shit watch them kek
>elder scrolls vi: we wuz kangs
Oh boy I can't wait for loser addicts to buy it and it be worse and more streamlined than skyrim
God Howard has already said he wants to keep simplifying TES and Fallout to appeal to wider audiences. There's zero hope for either series.
You guys complain now but a few years from now when Todd steps onto a stage or appears on a Microsoft stream or whatever and starts hyping up the game and telling you it's gonna be so amazing and great and they're totally not gonna water it down even further from Skyrim you'll all be dancing to his tune. Then the game will come out and surprise surprise Bethesda will have continued to learn nothing about the last 20 (by then almost 30) years of game development and you'll all act shocked and surprised.
>WE PROMISE GUIZE WE'LL HAVE A LEGIT RPG THIS TIME
If you thought Starfield was really good, you might be slightly disappointed with how it's a little bit less mechanically deep than that, but otherwise enjoy it. Because it's going to be made for Starfield's audience, but slightly dumbed down.
There are 5x more people playing Skyrim than Starfield right now and 2x as many people playing Fallout 4.
Because they can run on toasters and have been on sale over the course of 10 years. Did you forget that SSE was free?
Loads of games are free. Nobody plays them. You can cope with it however you want.
Yes, exactly. There are more people playing Skyrim, and yet they still made Fallout 4. Then they made Starfield. When was the last time a Bethesda game was better than the game that preceded it? Over a decade ago.
Starfield is what Bethesda thinks is a really good game. They do not have the competence to make a game as good as Skyrim again.
it will be a complete fricking trash fire and dumpstered by the core fanbase at release but the normies will still fall for the hype and it will be a financial success anyway, up untill 2 months later when the honeymoon phase ends and even the normies come to realize the game is nothing but bland uninspired slop, the games steam rating will plummet but Bethesda won't care becuase they already have the normies money so in their eyes it was a success.
Starfield was Bethesdas chance to really show people that they're trying to get with the times and actually make something interesting but instead it was just Fallout 4 in space. I have zero hope for ES6. Todd seems stuck in 2009 game development.
Well that just happened!
That image is like 15 years old at least. The old Todd is long dead. He was always a bit of a talker and a businessman but that's all he is now; the chess club kid who programmed his own games is long gone and he ain't coming back.
WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?
Is the slopfield team the exact same team working on elder scrolls? If so then yes
It'll be great.
They'll do away with all the boring dialogue and reading so you can focus the important parts of the game like gathering more loot or making a big pile of sandwiches in your house.
They'll get rid of all that stupid confusing shit with perks and skill points or whatever so your character can always do anything you like.
It'll even have so many radiant quests that you can literally play it forever.
I'm so fricking hyped bros.
> morrowind was a small group of white nerds making kino
> starfield was diversity hires and pajeets
really makes you think.
Emil is a white nerd and he's arguably the worst part of their recent games
But he's also a repressed catholic weirdo
they need more, like a herd that punts and gores the odd one so it behaves
I'm more hyped for this honestly, whereas ES6 is guaranteed to be shit
They'll probably both be coming out around the same time to
TES6 will be the first TES game, Emil will be lead designer on. Before it was Kurt Khulman and Bruce Nesmith who were lead designers on ES games but both of them are gone. Emil is the sole senior designer at Bethesda. No one left to stop him.
Ashley Cheng has been there from the begining. Just because you have no idea who actually works here doesn't mean they don't exist.
You fricking moron. Ashley Cheng is the production director of the studio. He has no creative involvement, he just runs the business side.
>2 experimental flops before the jaw-dropping masterpiece that saves the company.
All is going as planned.
It's probably just going to be Redguard 2, they'll probably turn the starship builder from Starfield into a regular ship builder.
You can't just bolt random shit together and make a boat.
African migrants beg to differ
>Bolt random buoyant shit together
>It's floats on water
Do native Greeks even exist? I went there last year and I swear, all I saw were blacks.
Holy frick
the only thing experimental about Starfield +76 is how shit they are
this.
the only redeemable part of 76 for me is the lore, everything else is just Fallout 4 but (somehow) dumbed down.
You're forgetting about ESO
>fallout 76
LOL. Should be Fallout 4.
As for 76, its so much better than 4 its not even possible to compare the two. Even the fact thats its a fricking always-online, still manages to put it far and above 4.
Take it from someone who recently played vanilla 4, vanilla skyrim, vanilla oblivion (even lvl 1 run sucks ass), and vanilla fallout 3.
Oh, and for the record, vanilla Morrowind is great, but has a lot of issues too - namely leveled lists and leveled monster spawn tables.
Now that they are not split between starfield and the rest of their projects, that starfield is no longer something they need to care about making "good" first impression since it was a new ip, that they have seen the pitfalls starfield fell into, and that starfield flopped so hard they are on a thin thread of buyers' trust - i feel they might actually put some actual effort into it in order to save face and actually make it at least fun, or maybe even great.
Am i too optimistic? Yes, but i won't pay a single cent for it anyway unless it turns out exceptionally good so i lose nothing from having hope.
>starfield unironically makes the player "Starborn"
It's so over just because Bethesda can't into writing anymore
>anymore
Where were you since Oblivion?
You get called moron alot don't you?
Take it personally.
No, /ourguy/ Emil will save it after he casts down the hack Todd Howard.
How will the AI revolution affect Elder Scrolls 6? Will Todd just make 80% of the game AI?
I honestly don't see why you would need human writers when with AI you can have real time conversations about the game world with AI.
They still use the same engine so i doubt, unless AI you mean procedural generated shit.
Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
What i even said that made your butthole twitch?
The engine was the least of starfield problems though? From what i've seen most starfield issues come from poor design, bland setting and lack of any proper direction, not engine going "Frick that" and hardlocking your entire game like in FO3/NV/Skyrim days
Like, CE1 was already pretty stable during FO4, especially compared to Skyrim. I don't really see any real problems with the engine When it's used properly, not for 76, even though the fact that it still somehow works too is quite telling save for "its old thats why it needs to change".
There are older engines still being used on the market and no one gives a shit about them being that old.
The biggest problem is that Bethesda doesn’t seem to understand why people like their games. People like big, seamless, and coherent open worlds with tons of stuff to discover, and that Bethesda has always delivered, even with fricking Fallout 4 and 76.
But frick that, Bethesda then decides to make a fast-travel patchwork world with hundreds of otherwise empty procgen planets that have nothing to discover except copypasted prefabs chosen from a pool that has less unique dungeons and locations than their previous games had. And worst of all, the studio itself seems to believe that they created some kind of explorer’s dream, when it is the WORST game they have created in regards of exploration yet.
No matter what engine they use, as long as they don’t understand why people liked their Elder Scrolls and Fallout releases, they are doomed to fail.
The sad part is that they keep saying that they understand and try to reassure us of that, but in practice they don’t. They know to parrot exploration in promo interviews, but they clearly don’t know what exploration actually means.
Starfield 2 will definitely be
Genuinely looks bad. Vertigo inducing camera work.
Its using the same engine as all todds other turds. Thats all you need to know.
Im genuinely looking forward to the release just to see it get ripped to shreds.
We have watched them devolve from 76 to Starfield. They are almost back to Morrowind era stupidness.
>muh ancient engine
nocoder spotted
I don't know shit about code anon I just want it to do glass that doesn't suck ass
All they gotta do is no procedural generation bullshit.
THAT'S IT.
THAT'S ALL THEY GOTTA DO.
You have low standards if thats all you require
It's not even real at this point. Don't believe Todd's lies
I'm already looking for alternatives. Avowed and Wayward Realms are the only ones I can think of.
>avowed
you would think after someone's been burnt on a garbage game like Starfield they could recognize another shit game in the making
I have my eyes on Gedonia and its sequel. Can't play the first one yet because of a shit PC.
Ardenfall looks like it might be worth something. Very clearly Morrowind-inspired. Has a demo right now.
the fact people buy bethesda games is insane. its the same awful engine and awful gameplay with bad stories
if you want another proper elder scrolls game, you'll have to make it yourself
Fallout 4 was a fart, 76 was a shart, Starfield is shit.
FO4 was bad and Starfield I don't even want to pirate. Unless they learn their lesson (they won't) it might even be their deaths.
>Starfield I don't even want to pirate
I bought it and played for 15 hours before getting a refund. I kept waiting for it to get good. It did not. Even though I got my money back, I still feel like I got cheated because I can never get that time back.
I think it will sell very well because everyone will meme 'Skyrim 2' and that alone will give it enough notoriety for secondaries to buy millions of copies.
Aside from that though it'll probably have about as much cultural impact and lasting legacy as BG3.
Wabbajack modpacks Blow anything releases Out of the water and you think this Stands a Chance? Niggrfell of all Locations? At Most IT should have been a dlc for Skyrim 2
yes
You need to let go of this shit series already and start getting into actual good fantasy rpg such as Baldur's Gate 3.
I played a dunmer in Morrowind.
I played an imperial in Oblivion.
I played a nord in Skyrim.
I’m not playing a game set in Hammerfell.
NPC.
CHIM’d
I have no hope
The buggy mess they call an engine is way too outdated but they cant drop it because its the only thing monkeys at Bethesda know how to code (or do they???)
And they seem to double down on generated AI shit rather than carefully crafted designs, so all the soul is lost
Skyrim is 13 years old…
Damn, so is my daughter...
Is her name Dovakhin?
What your daughter's body count by now, and are there any black guys among them?
It's at least 20 and she only dates black boys
Did you guys actually like Skyrim? It was ok for a play through but it wasn't amazing
It has quite a few improvements over the previous games, but infuriatingly bad quests and magic, which are the biggest draws to TES for me.
i think the most fun i've had with skyrim was wandering around waiting for random encounters to spawn, aside from stealth archering my path through a few dungeons. and listening to the OST. but no, it doesn't really entice you to see the big questlines through to the end.
Modded it's the game of the decade, two decades in a row. I have 0 hope for any new elder scrolls games though
what good mods are there that aren't just visual
Kinda? It's hard to describe. Exploring is fun, and the game is inoffensive enough that once you get into it, it's ok.
But when I start to think about how the combat is literally braindead, magic is neutered, everything RPG has been stripped away or dumbed down to the point it might as well not even exist, every dungeon is a crypt with draugr in it and almost certainly a linear path with a shortcut to the surface at the end. I get disappointed. But always the game has that feel that it could be something more. It could be greater than it is. They were right on the cusp of perfection, if they just pushed a little farther.
With Fallout 4 I didn't feel that. At all. The flaws were too great. The writing was even worse. Everything in the game was overwhelmingly bad. It was the first Bethesda game I played through just once. With Starfield I couldn't even force myself to be mad. Everything was so bland, boring, and poorly done. I no longer have hope. It is the first bethesda game I didn't finish. It's probably the last one I'll play.
>magic is neutered
You use the unofficial patch?
TES6s redguard NPCs will look like starfield's.
TES VI is probably going to be in either Hammerfell or High Rock, isn’t it?
Maybe they pull a Daggerfall and do both?
People say that based on the teaser trailer released, but that was something like 6 years ago and seemed to be prompted by panic that the public thought Bethesda had no games in the pipeline.
They've only actually started production of TES6 after Starfield, so it's possible that everything in the teaser was thrown out and they started again.
Hammerfell would be obvious as a sequel to Skyrim's backstory of Empire/Humans vs Thalmor, but Skyrim will be about 17 years old when TES6 releases so maybe they're just going to reboot the setting like they did between Oblivion and Skyrim. In that case they could do any province next.
It's literally never been more over.
TES VI is going to be just fine for fans of TES. Remember that TES isn't Starfield, Starfield isn't Fallout, Fallout isn't TES.
Arianism lost for a reason.
>Arianism lost
Idk Islam seems to be doing fine tbh. That's just Arianism with one more prophet after all.
Delusion.
Skyrim was already not fine.
ESO shown a glimpse of whats coming.
Shit game but nice teeth tho
Yes.
>people actually having hope for esvi after the joke that was Starfield
Is this one of those irony threads right?
Are you ready to recognized that modded Skyrim was the peak?
Microsoft put their own people on the board of zenimax after starflop. This is so over, it couldn't possibly more over. Look at the trajectory of this series. It's a steep decline from Morrowind. There's no talent left that can make something interesting. It's all coming from the perpetually uncreative Todd and his childhood friends. They've made bad decisions ever since Todd wormed his way into his current position which was after morrowind. It's fricking done. Not even remotely interested in this.
oblivion and skyrim are the best TES games, though.
Bethesda has no good will left since Fallout 4.
let's see, bethesda hasn't released a good game since they let another studio make new vegas. before that it was morrowind. so, the last time bethesda themselves made a good game was over 20 years ago. but nah yeah i'm sure they'll do it right this time
It will be soulless A.I. & Pajeet slop. No thanks.
It can never live up to the expectations.
My hopes and dreams for this game died when Starfield came out, Bethesda just isn't up to snuff anymore. TESVI: Wakanda will be a mediocre piece of shit.
why must Black folk ruin everything?
You WILL play as a black lesbian woman in nuTES
Bethesda already stopped making good games long before da ebil juden told them to make everyone some abominable albanian-nigerian hybrid. If making all the night shift gas station attendant looking NPCs in Starfield white is enough to make it worth paying for in your eyes then you're a moron
No? Why the frick would it? People will buy it because its Elder Scrolls 6, a sequal to fricking Skyrim.
People want it because its going to be more Skyrim but with a never grapihcs and a different envrioment.
They want their fantasy loot and kill simulator that they can grind endlessly for hundreds of hours and few more hundred hours on top once theres enough mods.
Theres nothing that will stop this game from making tons of money because there are honestly people still looking forward to it fully knowing everything about past and current Bethesda games and those kinds of people will eat literal shit if it comes in a correct package.
>People will buy it because its Elder Scrolls 6, a sequal to fricking Skyrim.
After Starfailed people will wait. No more preorder for Todd
I haven't purchased a bethesda game since fallout 4. I'm a hardcore elder scrollsgay, I even purchased Skyrim several times mistakingly believing that sales would be used to fund TES VI.
unless that game borders on perfection those c**ts aren't getting another penny from me. I'll pirate it at best if it turns out looking like shit.
>After Starfailed people will wait.
Nah, you are gravely overestimating the average brightness of bethesda fans. And the elder scrolls name still hasn't been ruined yet by a catastrophic release.
Maybe you are not wrong but I'll wait I preorder 76 and starfield
>spoiler
Rip, well at least (You) learned your lesson.
I still buy if it is not starfield level bad jut not preorder. I like Todd's gaem
That's what I used to hear about Starfield after everyone saw how shit 76 was.
I believe in Todd. It's going to be the last game he'll ever make. It's the game that will make or break his entire legacy. Surely he won't let any jeet or troony devs or Emil get in the way.
If you played Starfield and still believe in Todd, there's no hope for you.
Starfield's failure gives me even more hope since now bethesda is on thin ice and has no leeway for their next game. TES6 will be their maximum effort project now in order to save face, which will mean that it will be either a great game every single worker there put whatever remnants of an imitation of a soul they might have into, or be such a fricking travesty it that India will start WW3 in order to reach bethesda's offices and shit right down Todd's doorstep for even suggesting to them to shill something so shitty.
These are the closing games of bethesda... and the final hours of Todd's fame.
>Starfield's failure
Emil still there you know
Lmao people said the same thing with Starfield after their Fallout 76 fiasco.
Elder Scrolls hasn't been ruined yet like every other media franchise white men love.
Take the hint, spare yourself from being utterly disappointed.
It's over for video games, tv, and movies. White men have to focus on escaping the clownworld once and for all, so that we all can have big tiddy ayy waifus in space.
Depends whether Emil is writing the story or not
Bethesda hasn't made a good game in 13 years.
Be careful. You might wake up the oblivion/Morrowind schizos
>In 13 years
>Morrowind/Oblivion Schizos
Anon... Oblivion alone is 18 years old this year...
STOP THE COUNT! STOP THE MOTHERFRICKING COUNT!!!
Skyrim was well polished but quest writing and design is objectively better in those games.
>Place the game on one continent instead of space and multiple planets
>Game is instantly x10 better
Starfield has no effect on TES, so I'm not worried.
It's funny that Ganker doesn't even want a good game, they want Bethesda to fail.
>"bethesda sucks etc etc"
You wouldn't obsess about bethesda if the games sucked, you're not fooling anyone
It will be souleless.
>Spring is coming in a month
Once again, the cycle of spring vanilla skyrim binging shall continue.
Why not winter?
Yes
I just really hope it's not fricking safe
>Oh I'm a warrior from the empire, war sucks doesn't it?
>*Quest*
>Bring me a piece of iron...so I can do armor
>Thanks for the piece
I feel like there's so many games with this safe shit that's just fricking boring, make it crazy fun
It'll be even more streamlined than Skyrim so yes, it's doomed.
Modders can fix a lot of things about Skyrim, but they can't fix the shitty quest design so even then, I doubt TES 6 will be much better in that regard.
We don't even fricking now if it's hammer fell yet
Also if it's hammerfell AND High rock (high rock was teased in Skyrim) it's going to be great
>boot up TES 6
>try to kill the first important character I see
If he dies, I know the game will be kino, if he gets on one knee then comes back to full health, I know it'll be shit.
They're going to make the world fantasy California like they made Starfield California in space. All the factions are going to be ethnically diverse but have the exact same culture so it'll look diverse in trailers but be completely homogeneous if you actually engage with the game. It's going to be boring as shit. This company isn't even based in California I don't get it.
Starfield's main issue was it just being Fallout 4 but everything was spread the frick out with huge dead zones for no reason.
Fallout 4 had the opposite problem of vomiting content at you like an Ubisoft designer on cocaine. There was no room to breath and the only open spaces operated under the assumption you were going to do the dumb settlement building shit.
A lot of Bethesda's recent failures are innate to the specific product.
Skyrim 2 hopefully shouldn't have the issue of a spaceship and all its loading screens, or having to produce plumbing with potable water and electricity for some random ass place.
>Starfield's main issue was it just being Fallout 4
Not really.
>Crafting is worse (can't remove mods from one gun and put on another, no melee weapon mods).
>Outposts are worse (can't build vendors, can't grow food, can't assign NPCs to specific tasks)
>Companions are worse (fewer of them, lower quality, too similar)
>Fewer gear slots, we're down to 3
AY WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT IN HAMMERFELL
I'm tired of the whole dragonborn star born shit. Let's try something new todd
You vill be ze chosen one.
And you vill be happy.
You know the rules…
... and so do I
This. They've had the player be the Dragonborn in the last 3 games they've released. It's getting a bit old now.
How about you start as anyone you like. Any rank, position or race. Allow the player to customize everything about himself. Frick the forced placement and Forced backstory.
I despise Bethesda's LE CHOSEN ONE shit so much it's unreal. Even in Oblivion where you're Martin's second fiddle it is LE YOUR DESTINY to be the sidekick of the real hero.
>LE YOUR DESTINY to be the sidekick of the real hero
According to what?
The Emperor literally says he saw you in his dreams and shit, didn'tplaythegame-kun.
I saw you in mine
You didn't do anything bad to me, did you?
God this.
I just want some smallscale adventures where I'm just a dude who can fail and it isn't the end of the world.
I know it won't happen because Oblivion and Skyrim have made it a thing that you're the chosen one in a non-ambiguous way and they're too chicken shit as a company to stray from that.
they saw how well it worked in morrowind and then even more in skyrim (despite its worse execution) so at this point they're never going to stray from the high stakes END OF LE WORLD prophecy stories
I mean for frick's sake they couldn't contain themselves from saying how starfield is their first new big thing in a gorillion years and then the story is still just more prophecy slop
At least Morrowind was ambiguous about whether you were the actual chosen one or whether it was all a load of shit and things just worked out and you just so happened to vaguely tick some boxes that fit the legends. Skyrim is straight up you are the dragonborn you are the one who sucks off dragon souls and shit.
In Morrowi d you were the chosen one and exactly fulfilled the phrophecy if you followed the main quest, not even corprus got in your way.
Morrowind allows itself to have some ambiguity at least. I know Azura comes to have chat with you but that doesn't necessarily mean you're Nerevar reborn - you're just some schmuck who managed to jump through enough hoops to make it seem that way, and you had a good deal of help getting there.
I kind of wish Oblivion's main story started when you stumble upon Kvatch for the first time, and then stick with Martin after helping him and the others trapped in the church.
There are literally mods for you, there is one that adds like 20 different starting locations and backstories
>Polish ze turd.
Or you can just make your new game unique instead of making it Skyrim in da hood
Yes.
It's vaporware at this point. Don't expect anything, and if you do expect something, look at Fallout 76 and *Tarfield as examples of what to expect 😐
I want it to be good. I doubt it will be good.
>want it to be good.
No you don't, don't bullshit
I love the elder scrolls series, at least in terms of potential. why don't you tell me more about myself though. Lol.
>at least in terms of potential
Doesn't mean anything.
>I totally love the theoretical TES from 20 years ago with nostalgia glasses and mods guys, btw there's no chance for that
Are you for real?
Why do you think I hate one of my favorite game series to date?
You're one weird guy.
Anyways, my hopes for the next title may be low to nonexistent due to the way modern Bethesda operates, but I still would like it if the new title succeeded.
I am not cheering for Bethesdas' failure, I mere;y have little to no hope left at this point.
>Why do you think I hate one of my favorite game series to date?
Oh let me guess, the insufferable whining homosexual just cares too much? But his heart is broken because a video game wasn't good enough? Kek
>the insufferable whining homosexual
You?
Anyways, I want the next title to be great, but I highly, highly doubt it will be.
>I want the next title to be great, but I highly, highly doubt it will be
Yeah, that doesn't mean anything. Which TES was great in your mind, without conditions?
Nothing seems to mean anything to you unless it's a negative inference or implication.
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I liked Morrowind when I played it for the first time on my friend's modded xbox in 2010 or so. I liked Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and I liked Skyrim too. I played all unmodded, but i love mods too, of course. In fact I make mods for myself now!
I want to try Daggerfall sometime too, because it looks fun, but Bethesda doesn't appear to want to make those kind of games anymore.
It wants to make TES Online, Fallout 76 and *Tarfield.
What games do you like? Any?
I love Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. I've also made mods. I don't see the need to "lose hope" because of spin-offs made by others and a space game.
I see nothing to hope for, and honestly our conversation has made me feel even more hopeless about it.
Don't be such a pussy, they're video games.
What does that even mean?
You know, I am fairly certain you're paid to be here, and dissuade critics, and that's why I feel a little more hopeless, because *if* that's the case (I don't know for certain) then that would indicate the next game is going to be an even bigger flop than we expect, and that is sincerely depressing.
Yes, you schizo, Todd paid me to call a random anon a pussy, because that's just how much you matter to the grand scheme of things (but you can't know for certain)
You had no point, and the reason I suspect you are a shill is because you are acting like one. You went out of your way to make a big deal over my first post in this thread because I dared to criticize the latest games from modern Bethesda, and you continue to do so.
If you're not a shill, then you're still acting like one. So I guess it really doesn't matter.
I'm sure the next game will flop anyhow.
To think I used to preorder games. Lol. Those days are long past...
RIP
>Morrowind is fun as frick unmodded even on xbox because of bugthesda's bugs.
I once made a potion which increased my speed by 27,000+ points, and then I took one step (with levitation) from Balmora I *think*, and ended up over that lake in Solstheim with a composite map of all the areas I should have crossed over.
I looked around, then the game crashed, and I laughed.
Good times.
>I don't see the need to "lose hope"
Did you see how hard Todd shilled for Starfield? The game Todd wanted to make his entire life, and that he also wanted to make it last until TESVI (2030). That's the piece of shit we got.
Honestly, I think you're blind if you haven't noticed the inevitable decay of Bethesda since Fallout 4.
Todd shilled for Redguard, and Morrowind came afterwards.
Totally unexplainable mystery! This goes against everything we would think!
Morrowind is fun as frick unmodded even on xbox because of bugthesda's bugs. I would use the soul trap spell glitch and just summon a permanent army of minons to kill everything in the game.
Agreed.
>Yeah, that doesn't mean anything.
Are you moronic?
I want you to be great, but I highly doubt you will be.
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
this is how modern bethesda approaches their fans
are you a jilted bethesda game dev?
With how Starfield turned out after almost a whole decade. I dont know how anyone could be hype for TES6. Bethesda doesnt know any way to make a different game.
I feel your pain. It's sad things turned out this way. I really wanted something special for TESVI, but my hopes are virtually nonexistent now.
I expect TES 6 to have
>boring AI written dialogue
>30 sec loading screens due to obsolete engine
>graphics worse than modded Skyrim
>woke propaganda
>barebones combat
People want it to be doomed.
and those people? Bethesda employees.
100%, it will be starfield with swords.
>100%, it will be starfield with swords.
F
Every Bethesda game has been worse than the one before it.
Daggerfall is the only exception.
>Walk into inn.
>Enter room
>See animated pixel ladies with their titxels out
It was a different time.
76 became better than 4 and starflop though
It is better than Starfield. I will give you that much.
That is like being the tallest midget though.
Bethesda just released the worst game ever made, what do you think?
Emil will write it.
yeah absolutely. Won’t stop me from giving todd my money and then b***hing about how bad it was for the next 11 years though
yeah , people seem to forget that starfield was todd's passion project that he "always wanted to make"
its dead in the water
If it comes with BG3 style co-op it might be salvageable.
>Developer hasn't created a single good game in 20 years
What do you think?
I don't know how they could possibly make it any more casual than Skyrim. The worst you have to fear is that it might be an even more buggy piece of shit.
The degree in which people in the industry feel the need to come out to defend Emil Pagliarulo speaks volumes....... these people don't get it. Why does Emil Pagliarulo need defending? Bethesda should either improve the quality of their games or they should enjoy the criticisms they deservingly have been getting.
I would not be surprised if TESVI is found to be procedurally generated for the majority of the game.
Bethesda, the lazy fricks, have this obsession over the prospect of infinite quests despite knowing full well people prefer handcrafted content.
They already did that mistake with Daggerfall.
and they'll do it again because they seem to be genuinely out of ideas
i really don't give a shit about new games anymore.
give it to me straight, what's the over-under on them getting Debra Wilson this time around?
She's gonna be the Redguard warrior-queen
Queen of Hammerfell. Redguard Goddess of Curved Swords.
It is 100%, irrevocably, fricked.
Todd has proven multiple times now he can't be trusted. Even his "I wanted to make this game for 25 years" passion project, Starfield, was a fricking mediocre slog.
Was it Todd or the employees of Bethsoft who ultimately made the game?
It was india, but that just proves the point
There will be blacks scattered everywhere and you'll have to go to some shady Russian site to download the mod go fix them.
I still holding out hope that they'll learn the right lessons from SF and do a good job with TES6.
Yes, I'm a moron but I love TES and I might be in denial.
I can't wait to be Hammerborn with my Stoneshouts in an epic Mountainpunk environment
Hope it fails and finally kills Bethesda. Terrible studio.
Nah it'll be great but it won't be the phenomenon that Skyrim was
HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS
A PIC OF THE HIGH QUEEN OF HAMMERFELL IN TES6 WAS JUST NOW LEAKED, APPARENTLY SHE'S THE TRUE HERO OF THE STORY AND IS CALLED NAZEEMA CLOUD-BORN
>pic related
if it's actually set in Hammerfell then i want to be a Sword Singer, be the Anime Swordsman, i want to make crazy moves and make fantastical cuts, and after Starfield i do not see them delivering that, so as far as i am concerned, unless there is something that shows me melee combat has improved i don't see myself getting TES VI unless on heavy discounts or for Free.
Every single game by Todd since Skyrim has been "so bad it's good" situation. They are all 0/10 but the sheer confidence with which Todd advertised them makes them kind of impressive. This thing got stale with Starfield so it flopped. TES 6 will be either improve the formula (less than 10% chance) or flop even harder than SF.
>TES 6 will be either improve the formula
Can't improve what already peaked, moron. Maybe when you figure out how to make your own blockbuster series you'll figure that out.
If the formula of Bethesdaslop is so perfect why do people hate every Todd game after Skyrim, troony?
Well is it about the formula, or the quality of it?
Obviously people like the freedom of being and doing whatever in an open world.
>Starfield so it flopped
lol no
Damaged the company name yes, flop no
it flopped, because it took so much time and resources to develop
Flop means "not a massive success like skyrim being the most popular RPG of all time" in modern Ganker
well, they did release several games inbetween which weren't Skyrim success so i don't get your passive aggresivness, but it was a flop because they spent so much getting the game made and that time could've easily been allocated elsewhere, all these new devs cut their teeth on Starfield are now going to run Bethesda, what Starfield is, is the future of all Bethesda studios games
>it was a flop because they could've made something else
This is your brain on Ganker
>now starfield is all they can do
>because it just is
Ok sure that makes sense
it does. the "games" they made inbetween skyrim and Starfield
>Blades
>FO76
>FO4
none of them had as much time and resources invested into it as Starfield, SF was a bigger game for Bethesda than any of those, this was it
Who's "they"?
Also it doesn't change the definition of the word flop, you fricking dimwit
GAME A
>takes 4 year to make a game
>takes another 4 year to make a game
GAME B
>takes 7 years to make a game
90% of yout gaming audience stops playing your game after 1 year
how is it not a flop
>how is it not a flop
Because it sold well, DUH
I don't care about how the game turns out because I haven't bought a Bethesda game since 2006. I just hope it's funny.
You guys thought the blacks in Starfield were bad...
When have they been good xD
Fallout 4 was the warning
Starfield was the confirmation
it will be garbage with no value
Bethesda is a company that doesn't learn. They keep repeating the same mistakes, and they keep making the same game over and over again. Also they never innovate with anything. Starfield has shown that they are out of touch with reality
It won't be on the Shartstation. So it's automatically based
I've accepted that the climate in gaming has changed too much for this game to realistically happen now
TESV is hard carried by mods
VI will not have the same treatment
I think it will flop. Hi future me who will screenshot this in 20 years when TES6 is out
the better observation is that the zoom zooms actually shat on bethesda hard and the general gaymer community has now little trust for TES6
If the normies are against bethesda, it's time for Ganker contrarians to support them..
No, every single normalhomosexual is expecting it to be a flop, which inevitably means it will be a misunderstood masterpiece.
unless they find a way to up their game, make new engine and hire some quality storywritters and tech people they're fricked. another low effort starfield tier kusoge will bury them for good.
Yes. Just look at starfield.
Following the general trend from Oblivion, past Fallout 3, through Skyrim, then Fallout 4 and then Starfield, you think TES6 will be good? Ofcourse not.
I've played all bethesda games since Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall. Except for Fallout 4 (dropped) and f76 (didn't even try)
I feel like I'm the only one that actually really REALLY enjoyed StarField
I even liked it more than Skyrim everything considered. But I might have a sci-fi bias.
it's doomed.
bethesda has no idea what made their old games good.
similar to how fromsoftware has no idea what made their pvp good.
Thank you Todd, I will play Skyrim again while I wait
lmao
You wouldn't play Ryan gosling black panther?
I would say 80% chance it's going to fall on its face.