>some of the worst looking eeveelutions >gets bigger and dumber >this one is ok >legit looks worse AND less detailed than roselia >ok >ok >looks worse than sneasel and it's lazy as shit, just add more feathers and a moronic egyptian theme >the fricking hips >looks nothing like snorunt and completely disregards its theme
>looks nothing like Snorunt and completely disregards its theme
You mean snow yokai? Because Snorunt is a Yukinko/Zashiki-Warashi and Froslass is a Yuki-onna
>Eeveelutions
I'd say least good instead of worst, but okay. >Tangrowth
I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela. >Roserade
More detail doesn't automatically make something better. Just disagree with you that it looks worse. >Weavile
My least favourite of the bunch so I'm not going to bother defending it. >Gallade
The hips never bothered me but I guess they will now. >Froslass
Like the other reply said, it follows the design well, better than Glalie anyway.
>I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela.
I'm not one of the people who think all the beta mons were great, but I did prefer the older concept for a Tangela evolution.
>Most of the designs are good >Megas are dead so this is the next best thing, or it's arguably better than megas >Much better than introducing some regional variant and giving them evos and leaving the original to collect even more dust >The sense of progression is stronger when your team evolves. This is more personal but I hardly ever use single stage mons for this reason.
Only thing I can think of is that it gives us fewer new mons, but I don't really think that's even a bad thing
t. still not done with the living dex
I'd argue that Cross-Gens are simply better than Megas, they can provide an evolutionary line with that extra evolution to bring it up to par plus they don't have to be limited to the 100BST increase of Megas meaning you can have something like Scizor or Electivire where the change is more of a pivot and Yanmega and Togekiss where you have far larger BST increases.
That being said I wouldn't mind seeing a few megas repurposed into natural evolutions even if the design has to be changed somewhat as long as it keeps the core concepts; > Mega Kangaskhan > Mega Medicham > Mega Banette > Mega Steelix > Mega Sableye > Mega Audino
Its not the worst of the worst but >becomes a massive sphere >also becomes a plane?
thematically harkening back to Togepi's egg motif becoming more egg shaped and naturally evolving to become more aerodynamic but these two things clash extremely into a awkward flying blob... also it's leg are dumb
Oh cross gen evos have always been better than megas.
I remember being really sad when megas were introduced for any pokemon line that wasn't complete like say banette's, because now instead of having a third evo to that line, we are forever stuck at 2 with a redesign that is virtually unobtainable now, that could've worked fine as a normal third evolution with some simple design changes.
Now that cross gen is apparently back in the menu in gen 8, I have hope for some of my favorite underappreciated mons like magcargo or drifblim. Even if they give them the zigzagoon treatment I'd be fine with that.
Even if it isn't explicitly a "Hisuian Basculin" it was still introduced in Gen 8 just like Basculegion. And since the Basculins from Gen 5 aren't in the game and can't evolve either, no part of the line is technically cross-gen.
the idea was probably that white basculin eventually deviated into the other two but there really wasn't much of a reason they couldn't just make it another east/west split the same way they did with shellos
I hate that they're not faster or anything, the design is fine but they like could at least give them 100-120 speed and swift swim as a hidden ability but its like they don't give a shit anymore
Shills have been trying to push that regionals are new pokemon and thus that doesn't count as a cross-gen evolution. It probably came from a poketuber.
>Introduce regional variant >give it a new evo >original pokemon literally gets nothing from this
The singular point of cross-gen evolutions doesn't exist for regional evos
I can't give ONE case against cross-geb evolutions because each of them felt vastly different from another. For example, I hate Kingdra, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Magmortar, Ambipom, and Probopass because they were designed to be so much uglier than their preevo for no fricking reason at all. But on the other hand, I love Bellossom, Porygon2, Steelix, Eeveelutions, Togekiss, Gallade, Dusknoir, and all the PLA evos because they are cool.
How can you hate probopass? The mini noses are fricking awesome and the magnet iron beard is just such a cool detail, it even has a nice hat like some moai did so it's a direct evolution on the noaepass concept
How can you hate probopass? The mini noses are fricking awesome and the magnet iron beard is just such a cool detail, it even has a nice hat like some moai did so it's a direct evolution on the noaepass concept
That and when you compare Probopass (which probably designed around the nose meme and the party nose-glasses joke) with Nosepass (based on the Easter Island moai) and put them side-by-side in a blind test, 9 out of 10 people would choose Nosepass
Its colour proportions and how the "beard" look like are all ugly.
The mini nosrs make the whole design look clouded and confused.
Good example of cool isea, but terrible execution
1. sub-optimal way to buff existing pokemon, since it's basically just making a new one and telling the old one's fanbase to use the new design
2. some of the ones we have just look bad or feel pointless even in complete isolation
That said I'm, in general, somewhat iffy on how evolution works as a game mechanic, because I was introduced to this series through the anime and Stadium, the former of which intentionally keeping plenty of the main characters' team members NFE, and the latter of which designing rental sets around having to trade-off good moves for good stats. I wish there was a better solution for wanting to use Rhydon or Misdreavus than "use this item that'll get hit with knock off because someone thought it was a good idea to buff that move to have monkey strength"
I understand where you're comiong from, but that applies to almost every mechanic added to the games since gen 1.
For example pokemon having no gender except nidoran in gen 1.
I get where you're coming from but after gen 2 they dropped the whole "wow look at all these new discoveries!" angle and it became "It's just new to you bro."
Which is for the best since gen 2 has historic ties to certain Pokemon while also having characters act as if they just suddenly stumbled onto 100 new species out of no where.
The real question is, what's the point of cross-gen babies, especially the incense ones? There are like 2 that actually have useful moves from their baby forms, the rest are just dex filler with no practical reason to exist
Tyrogue is cool, and I like the gen 2 babies in general, nice designs and they don't take any extra effort to obtain, it's mostly the incense ones I think are dumb, having to go out of your way to breed a total shitmon that doesn't even make the evolved pokemon any better off for going through that stage in 90% of cases
Igglybuff, Pichu, and Cleffa are annoying and only serve to make breeding more annoying due tot heir evolution requirements. At least Magby, Smoochum, and Elekid just evolve via level.
Togepi gets a pass because you initially get it as an egg, but Togetic still isn't great.
You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.
They are also marketable.
What game lets you have Tyrogue before the first gym?
>a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz >roselia >level 13 pre gym 3 mon in its debut title
Yeah, super justified baby. Nevermind gardenia uses roserade as her ace in the second gym.
Budew was completely pointless >I totally need a grass pokemon at the start of the game
shit.
>until Verdanturf
You get it right before the third gym at level 13 yes.
Completely pointless, same as azurill/cleffa/igglybuff/pichu, what's the point of babies of low level pokemon?
>You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.
While I agree that babymon are good for this purpose, they clearly didn't balance out the evo methods for this at all. In the later gens you can easily evolve your happiness evo babies before the first gym, while stuff like magby and elekid evolve way too late at level 30. From level 20-30 they completely fall off ingame
they could've been used as a cool way to give you access to certain types, and maybe even rewarded you with a powerful pokemon if you have the patience to train it in the earlygame. But they don't really use them like that at all, so
there's a mechanic where if you catch a wild baby pokemon it'll have 3 perfect IVs. Stuff like this could be a cool way to incentivize getting them. Maybe extend that 3 perfect IVs to bred babies as well, maybe even let baby pokemon learn egg moves via level up. They can make them work they just choose not to.
>Gen 2 was supposed to be the end of Pokémon franchise so they pulled out every evolution they come into mind, but GBC had limited storage.
>Gen 4 also felt like the "end". Sinnoh being the last region based on Japan so they AGAIN "completed" every previous Pokémon they thought needed an evolution, making Gen V a total reset of the franchise.
I'm a fan. Sure there are some duds that really don't need to exist, but for the most part these additions are all pretty solid. Or at least look cool.
Gives me hope for cool fakemon I've seen posted around here. That maybe GF will do something like them.
>Hello! Homer Simpson speaking. > ... uhuh > mhm... > Ah! Do they really? > aha... well.. > That's all very interesting Mr. Masuda, but why would you put bugs in someone's anus cavity? > ... uhuh > hm! > Well I'd never... > ... > Based on what? > .. wow! > Alright then, I have to go pickup Lisa from practice, but the next time I go to the toilet and take a huge stinky dump I'll take a photo of the result and email it to you so you have a reference for how good your designs are.
I hate evolutions exclusive to regional variants. The concept makes sense but the whole regional variant thing will just get more and more out of hand over time.
No reason they can't just add an "Alolan Incense" item or whatever that makes your Raticate lay Alolan Rattata eggs when held. Or regional forms could be a great reason to bring back the safari zone.
I cropped out the designs that were good or at least OK.
The odds of getting an okay or better evo for your favorite line are solid, but it's risky because the line could be ruined by one of the pic-rel abominations.
Maybe people wouldn't be as harsh as they could if Rhyperior was a Diancie to Rhydon's Carbink: A Mythical who's known to be a rare mutation of a normal species who acts as a ruler to them. Being a Pharaoh, an Emperor, a King, a Tribe Chief, an Elder, a God, a Titan, i don't care.
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Rhydon already feels so complete that I think an evolution in general was a mistake. A preevo to diversify variety in early caves/sections of Mt Coronet would have been a better choice.
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With my idea, Rhyperior wouldn't be an "Evolution" since it'll be an unrelated Mythical that happens to be a mutation of Rhydon.
Therefore a pre-evo could happen while keeping it.
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Anonymous
Rhydon already feels so complete that I think an evolution in general was a mistake. A preevo to diversify variety in early caves/sections of Mt Coronet would have been a better choice.
I just hate that they can't get megas cause both aren't even decent competetively despite 3 stage evolution and electivire even loses speed too
>Give one case against cross-gen evolutions.
It undervalues the new mon, instead of a cool new species its just an add on to a earlier mon. Also, cross gen evolutions makes the region feel like an extension of an earlier region.
● ONE
■ Breathes new life into old Pokémon which are dead both competitively, and in singleplayer too (due to being locked behind post-game for example).
● TWO
■ Uses the older, and therefore better, design as a base for the new Pokémon.
● THREE
■ Reminds us of the theme of Pokemon, mutation and evolution, and strengthens continuation of the Pokemon World across generations
● FOUR
■.Kanto IS the series. Charizard, Pikachu, Ash, the filling of the Pokedex, the Elite Four and Champion, they are never ever going away. You can never go wrong with pandering to Kanto. Everything else pales in comparison. It is why the series works. It is the skeleton AND the meat.
I don't know if it was because we were in an ancient setting or if there was some different design philosophy for this game but seeing them all lined up I really appreciate the earthy tones they used for the Legends crossgens. The Gen 2 ones especially look like plastic toys.
its been this unfinish larval shitmon for over 20 years people just wanna see it grow into some powerful serpent or something anything. Dunsparce is often overtly rare whenever it get in a game which it seldom does and for getting it your rewarded with some slow pure normal type that at best does some mediocre parahacks. Also frick you I car about Dunsparce it's cute.
Gen 2 did it best. Sylveon is pretty good. LA did alright (Ursaluna looks dumb with the mud). Gen 4 designs just look off; same goes for the “regular” additions in that gen.
Gen 4's are abortion that in most cases look worse than the previous evo or completely disregard the line's theme.
Leafeon, Glaceon, Tangrowth, Porygon-Z, Roserade, Yanmega, Gliscor, Weavile, Gallade, and Froslass are good.
>some of the worst looking eeveelutions
>gets bigger and dumber
>this one is ok
>legit looks worse AND less detailed than roselia
>ok
>ok
>looks worse than sneasel and it's lazy as shit, just add more feathers and a moronic egyptian theme
>the fricking hips
>looks nothing like snorunt and completely disregards its theme
>looks nothing like Snorunt and completely disregards its theme
You mean snow yokai? Because Snorunt is a Yukinko/Zashiki-Warashi and Froslass is a Yuki-onna
>Eeveelutions
I'd say least good instead of worst, but okay.
>Tangrowth
I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela.
>Roserade
More detail doesn't automatically make something better. Just disagree with you that it looks worse.
>Weavile
My least favourite of the bunch so I'm not going to bother defending it.
>Gallade
The hips never bothered me but I guess they will now.
>Froslass
Like the other reply said, it follows the design well, better than Glalie anyway.
>I'll give you that he's just bigger and dumber but I don't see what else you could have done with Tangela.
I'm not one of the people who think all the beta mons were great, but I did prefer the older concept for a Tangela evolution.
this art looks waay more anime friendly than tangrowth. I love the smile like it just tripped some weeb in the hallway
fobp
Steelix is a far shittier design than any crossgen evolution from gen 4.
An incredibly homosexual take.
I was not aware the Lord of the homosexuals had left the Dildo Throne to come posting here.
You format your post like a moron and homos live rent free in your head.
>be me, this anon
>things i'm not used to disgust me
>like original thoughts and veganas
>be very gay
the puzzle pieces come together
Still better than everything from gen 7 and 8.
Gen 4's are based and include my top 2 favorite pokemon. Get some taste.
True. What a disgrace. But other gens did it right.
I don't like them.
Can't think of any
>Most of the designs are good
>Megas are dead so this is the next best thing, or it's arguably better than megas
>Much better than introducing some regional variant and giving them evos and leaving the original to collect even more dust
>The sense of progression is stronger when your team evolves. This is more personal but I hardly ever use single stage mons for this reason.
Only thing I can think of is that it gives us fewer new mons, but I don't really think that's even a bad thing
t. still not done with the living dex
I'd argue that Cross-Gens are simply better than Megas, they can provide an evolutionary line with that extra evolution to bring it up to par plus they don't have to be limited to the 100BST increase of Megas meaning you can have something like Scizor or Electivire where the change is more of a pivot and Yanmega and Togekiss where you have far larger BST increases.
That being said I wouldn't mind seeing a few megas repurposed into natural evolutions even if the design has to be changed somewhat as long as it keeps the core concepts;
> Mega Kangaskhan
> Mega Medicham
> Mega Banette
> Mega Steelix
> Mega Sableye
> Mega Audino
Togekiss is great tho
Look at the size of the fluffy lad
It's a great hugger.
Lady. That Togekiss is female
Its not the worst of the worst but
>becomes a massive sphere
>also becomes a plane?
thematically harkening back to Togepi's egg motif becoming more egg shaped and naturally evolving to become more aerodynamic but these two things clash extremely into a awkward flying blob... also it's leg are dumb
>More new Pokemon gives us fewer new Pokemon.
Huh?
that does read a little weird. I just meant that we'd get fewer entirely new pokemon lines if most of the dex focuses on crossgens for old ones.
Oh cross gen evos have always been better than megas.
I remember being really sad when megas were introduced for any pokemon line that wasn't complete like say banette's, because now instead of having a third evo to that line, we are forever stuck at 2 with a redesign that is virtually unobtainable now, that could've worked fine as a normal third evolution with some simple design changes.
Now that cross gen is apparently back in the menu in gen 8, I have hope for some of my favorite underappreciated mons like magcargo or drifblim. Even if they give them the zigzagoon treatment I'd be fine with that.
What i hate is split evolutions. Specially regional split ones.
Galar got the most problematic ones, with Meowth, Mr. Mime, and Linoone line.
Rhyperior, Magmortar, and Electivire are ugly as frick and ruined their entire line.
>a handful were ugly so we gotta toss the entire concept out
Why should a violent monster be a pretty boy? Frick the ugly criticism, Magmortar is a chad.
>chad
He got Black person lips tho
Just don't use them? You can now use eviolite Rhydon, Electabuzz and Magmar.
All terrible, especially Rhydon.
Evolve them.
Their prevos were just as ugly moron. Magmar even uglier in fact.
Where's Basculegion?
>inb4 regional evo
White Stripe Basculin is only an alternate form, not a regional form, as confirmed by Home.
Even if it isn't explicitly a "Hisuian Basculin" it was still introduced in Gen 8 just like Basculegion. And since the Basculins from Gen 5 aren't in the game and can't evolve either, no part of the line is technically cross-gen.
they better retcon this in SV really
Agreed. Basculin deserved an evo and it finally could have had one in Basculegion. It's stupid.
What the frick were they thinking?
the idea was probably that white basculin eventually deviated into the other two but there really wasn't much of a reason they couldn't just make it another east/west split the same way they did with shellos
I hate that they're not faster or anything, the design is fine but they like could at least give them 100-120 speed and swift swim as a hidden ability but its like they don't give a shit anymore
Shills have been trying to push that regionals are new pokemon and thus that doesn't count as a cross-gen evolution. It probably came from a poketuber.
They get really autistic about it.
Well, my VC Qwilfish can't evolve in Legends whereas my Ursaring could. You sound extremely butthurt
>Introduce regional variant
>give it a new evo
>original pokemon literally gets nothing from this
The singular point of cross-gen evolutions doesn't exist for regional evos
Rhyperior
I wanted quick feet ursaluna
I can't give ONE case against cross-geb evolutions because each of them felt vastly different from another. For example, I hate Kingdra, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Magmortar, Ambipom, and Probopass because they were designed to be so much uglier than their preevo for no fricking reason at all. But on the other hand, I love Bellossom, Porygon2, Steelix, Eeveelutions, Togekiss, Gallade, Dusknoir, and all the PLA evos because they are cool.
How can you hate probopass? The mini noses are fricking awesome and the magnet iron beard is just such a cool detail, it even has a nice hat like some moai did so it's a direct evolution on the noaepass concept
I hate israelites.
Thanks for answering that for me
That and when you compare Probopass (which probably designed around the nose meme and the party nose-glasses joke) with Nosepass (based on the Easter Island moai) and put them side-by-side in a blind test, 9 out of 10 people would choose Nosepass
But probopass is cool
anon he likes sneasler, don't bother
Its colour proportions and how the "beard" look like are all ugly.
The mini nosrs make the whole design look clouded and confused.
Good example of cool isea, but terrible execution
who the frick hates probopass? he’s adorably goofy and silly. not every Pokémon has to be “LE EPIN DARGON” or “sexy furry Pokémon”
>adorably goofy and silly
Say that again after the Alpha Probopass in PLA Hyper Beamed you for no fricking reason
Gen 4's are so bad I forgot most of them existed
Sylveon
1. sub-optimal way to buff existing pokemon, since it's basically just making a new one and telling the old one's fanbase to use the new design
2. some of the ones we have just look bad or feel pointless even in complete isolation
That said I'm, in general, somewhat iffy on how evolution works as a game mechanic, because I was introduced to this series through the anime and Stadium, the former of which intentionally keeping plenty of the main characters' team members NFE, and the latter of which designing rental sets around having to trade-off good moves for good stats. I wish there was a better solution for wanting to use Rhydon or Misdreavus than "use this item that'll get hit with knock off because someone thought it was a good idea to buff that move to have monkey strength"
Scizor makes no sense
It's why it's good tho
It does. Scyther is about slashing. Scisor is about cutting, and Kleavor is about chopping.
scizor does still look like shit though
Is there some specific reason why only even number games get crossgens?
They don’t.
My issue with them is lore wise (autistic I know)
Look like you're telling me no one was treating their Chansey or Golbat nice enough for an evolution until Gen 2 came along?
Lickitung has had access to Rollout since Gen 2 but it just doesn't evolve until Gen 4?
Roselia are abundant in Gen 3 but you're telling me no one in Hoenn ever stumbled across a baby Budew or a fully grown Roserade in the wild?
They exist, you just don't see them
Everyone had shoes in gen1 and 2 but nobody decided to run in them until gen 3?
Not all shoes are suitable for running. That's why you can't do it right away in gen 3.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity#:~:text=Retroactive%20continuity%2C%20or%20retcon%20for,recontextualizes%20or%20breaks%20continuity%20with
I understand where you're comiong from, but that applies to almost every mechanic added to the games since gen 1.
For example pokemon having no gender except nidoran in gen 1.
I get where you're coming from but after gen 2 they dropped the whole "wow look at all these new discoveries!" angle and it became "It's just new to you bro."
Which is for the best since gen 2 has historic ties to certain Pokemon while also having characters act as if they just suddenly stumbled onto 100 new species out of no where.
I hate Rhyperior, Magmortar, Electivire, and Ambipom
Gliscor, Mismagius, Dusknoir, and Magnezone are ok designs but they look too different from the rest of their line imo
The rest are all good
>Gliscor is too different
Looks almost the same as gligar
>Electivire bad
>Lickilicky good
Holy shit taste
No idea why Audino doesn't have its Mega as an evolution whereas Chansey does.
The real question is, what's the point of cross-gen babies, especially the incense ones? There are like 2 that actually have useful moves from their baby forms, the rest are just dex filler with no practical reason to exist
Merchandising.
Which is also the main point of the entire serirs.
Some of them are good, like Tyrogue or Budew before first gym. It took a good while for them to make sense though.
What game lets you have Tyrogue before the first gym?
No I mean him as a concept of giving you three potential pokemon.
Tyrogue is cool, and I like the gen 2 babies in general, nice designs and they don't take any extra effort to obtain, it's mostly the incense ones I think are dumb, having to go out of your way to breed a total shitmon that doesn't even make the evolved pokemon any better off for going through that stage in 90% of cases
Igglybuff, Pichu, and Cleffa are annoying and only serve to make breeding more annoying due tot heir evolution requirements. At least Magby, Smoochum, and Elekid just evolve via level.
Togepi gets a pass because you initially get it as an egg, but Togetic still isn't great.
Gen 2 is the worst because you only get the babies after the evolution is found
What's the point of any pokemon?
You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.
They are also marketable.
SWSH.
>a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz
>roselia
>level 13 pre gym 3 mon in its debut title
Yeah, super justified baby. Nevermind gardenia uses roserade as her ace in the second gym.
Budew was completely pointless
>I totally need a grass pokemon at the start of the game
shit.
You don't get Roselia until Verdanturf and it's m7ch lower than Gym 3. Cope.
>until Verdanturf
You get it right before the third gym at level 13 yes.
Completely pointless, same as azurill/cleffa/igglybuff/pichu, what's the point of babies of low level pokemon?
And if you had one since the start of the game it would be higher level and you would have got to use it hours before as a Budew. Complete non issue,
Budew is cool
>You get access to a certain evolutionary line early on such as Roselia and Electabuzz that would otherwise be too powerful that early.
While I agree that babymon are good for this purpose, they clearly didn't balance out the evo methods for this at all. In the later gens you can easily evolve your happiness evo babies before the first gym, while stuff like magby and elekid evolve way too late at level 30. From level 20-30 they completely fall off ingame
they could've been used as a cool way to give you access to certain types, and maybe even rewarded you with a powerful pokemon if you have the patience to train it in the earlygame. But they don't really use them like that at all, so
there's a mechanic where if you catch a wild baby pokemon it'll have 3 perfect IVs. Stuff like this could be a cool way to incentivize getting them. Maybe extend that 3 perfect IVs to bred babies as well, maybe even let baby pokemon learn egg moves via level up. They can make them work they just choose not to.
It wouldn't surprise me if wild babies having 3 perfect IVs wasn't an accident.
>Gen 2 was supposed to be the end of Pokémon franchise so they pulled out every evolution they come into mind, but GBC had limited storage.
>Gen 4 also felt like the "end". Sinnoh being the last region based on Japan so they AGAIN "completed" every previous Pokémon they thought needed an evolution, making Gen V a total reset of the franchise.
What
This is a sick idea that just doesn't get executed well often
Why do we suddenly hate scizor, eeveelutions, porygon-z, and weavile
>we
I'm a fan. Sure there are some duds that really don't need to exist, but for the most part these additions are all pretty solid. Or at least look cool.
Gives me hope for cool fakemon I've seen posted around here. That maybe GF will do something like them.
>obstagoon 2
>Hello! Homer Simpson speaking.
> ... uhuh
> mhm...
> Ah! Do they really?
> aha... well..
> That's all very interesting Mr. Masuda, but why would you put bugs in someone's anus cavity?
> ... uhuh
> hm!
> Well I'd never...
> ...
> Based on what?
> .. wow!
> Alright then, I have to go pickup Lisa from practice, but the next time I go to the toilet and take a huge stinky dump I'll take a photo of the result and email it to you so you have a reference for how good your designs are.
I hate evolutions exclusive to regional variants. The concept makes sense but the whole regional variant thing will just get more and more out of hand over time.
No reason they can't just add an "Alolan Incense" item or whatever that makes your Raticate lay Alolan Rattata eggs when held. Or regional forms could be a great reason to bring back the safari zone.
I cropped out the designs that were good or at least OK.
The odds of getting an okay or better evo for your favorite line are solid, but it's risky because the line could be ruined by one of the pic-rel abominations.
>rhyperior is the one that ruined the line
Rhydon is shit
I like Magnezone, but the rest I agree with.
why couldn't Rhyperior looked like this or something?
Anything that looks like Rhydon is doomed to be shit.
Being different is what make Rhyperior supreme.
>t. obese construction worker
pokemon should not have jobs
That's what you see.
I only see a walking mountain.
Do mountains normally have random ugly orange bits stuck on them?
Mountains are composed of multitudes of different rocks, so some orange bits on a brown one isn't Farfetch'd.
>pokemon should not have interesting themes or concepts
They can't have it if it's tied to humans. There's the nuance.
(It's ironic)
I've always seen Rhyperior as a pharaoh
Maybe people wouldn't be as harsh as they could if Rhyperior was a Diancie to Rhydon's Carbink: A Mythical who's known to be a rare mutation of a normal species who acts as a ruler to them. Being a Pharaoh, an Emperor, a King, a Tribe Chief, an Elder, a God, a Titan, i don't care.
Rhydon already feels so complete that I think an evolution in general was a mistake. A preevo to diversify variety in early caves/sections of Mt Coronet would have been a better choice.
With my idea, Rhyperior wouldn't be an "Evolution" since it'll be an unrelated Mythical that happens to be a mutation of Rhydon.
Therefore a pre-evo could happen while keeping it.
I just hate that they can't get megas cause both aren't even decent competetively despite 3 stage evolution and electivire even loses speed too
Great design
magnezone is cool, the rest I agree
I love Magnezone and Probopass is alright but I agree with the rest. Ambipom especially is an abomination against god.
I dislike Rhyperior but Rhydon already sucks ass. Give me a branching evo that doesn't ruin Rhyhorn.
Also Magnezone is excellent.
I don't like that Politoed is green. Looks better with the rest of the line's color.
To piggyback off of this, Bellossom is also better with Oddish colors.
i cant
>Give one case against cross-gen evolutions.
It undervalues the new mon, instead of a cool new species its just an add on to a earlier mon. Also, cross gen evolutions makes the region feel like an extension of an earlier region.
Arguments in support of Cross-Gen-Evos: CGE
● ONE
■ Breathes new life into old Pokémon which are dead both competitively, and in singleplayer too (due to being locked behind post-game for example).
● TWO
■ Uses the older, and therefore better, design as a base for the new Pokémon.
● THREE
■ Reminds us of the theme of Pokemon, mutation and evolution, and strengthens continuation of the Pokemon World across generations
● FOUR
■.Kanto IS the series. Charizard, Pikachu, Ash, the filling of the Pokedex, the Elite Four and Champion, they are never ever going away. You can never go wrong with pandering to Kanto. Everything else pales in comparison. It is why the series works. It is the skeleton AND the meat.
Every single crossgen evo except for Tranneon is based
I don't know if it was because we were in an ancient setting or if there was some different design philosophy for this game but seeing them all lined up I really appreciate the earthy tones they used for the Legends crossgens. The Gen 2 ones especially look like plastic toys.
Only the gen 2 evolutions look good. There were afew good ones in gen 4. But most were shit
Just waiting for them to make more.
do people actually want a dunsparce evo or is it a meme? Who gives a frick about dunsparce?
its been this unfinish larval shitmon for over 20 years people just wanna see it grow into some powerful serpent or something anything. Dunsparce is often overtly rare whenever it get in a game which it seldom does and for getting it your rewarded with some slow pure normal type that at best does some mediocre parahacks. Also frick you I car about Dunsparce it's cute.
damn i never realized how tasteful gen 2 cross evos were even as azoomie who grew up with gen 4 most of the cross evos look like utter shit
Gen 2 did it best. Sylveon is pretty good. LA did alright (Ursaluna looks dumb with the mud). Gen 4 designs just look off; same goes for the “regular” additions in that gen.