Why lie on the internet who are you trying to impress? You dropped a journey of over 1k chapters because of a cool power up just because it wasn't very well foreshadowed?
if he was rubber he wouldn't be able to perform gear 3rd or use red hawk. gear 2nd is really the only one that ever kinda made sense but lately I been doubting that. he does it because he imagines it
What's wrong with him blowing air into his bones? Him being able to move the air between bones doesn't make much sense, but just making them bigger seems fine to me.
As for Gear 4, it's just using haki to change elasticity, bounding and snake man are fine.
All the gear 5 haters are people who never touched the series.
Are you two moronic? Yes he may lose individual fights, but Luffy is predestined to get the one piece and take the world government down.
I know way more about one piece than you two ever will, filthy casuals
9 months ago
Anonymous
>but Luffy is predestined
no he isn't
9 months ago
Anonymous
>but Luffy is predestined to get the one piece and take the world government down.
Are you really throwing a fit that the hero of the story is going to achieve his end goal? Bro, that's every story. Fricking moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes but the hero is not usually pre-destined WITHIN HIS RESPECTIVE UNIVERSE to get it
9 months ago
Anonymous
how is he predestined
9 months ago
Anonymous
Shanks has known all along what that fruit is and he was going to give it to Ace before Luffy ate in accident (Ace being the one who was actually the destined one to become Pirate King being Rogers son and all).
9 months ago
Anonymous
Frick off, Shank didn't even realize he had conqueror's haki at the start and lost an arm for a glorified fish. Oda didn't have this nearly as figured out as you think he had.
9 months ago
Anonymous
He wanted to teach Luffy a lesson. Using Haki wouldn't have taught Luffy about sacrifice.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Wanted to teach Luffy a lesson
Absolute cope.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Luffy hasn't remembered that sacrifice one single time during his whole adventure
9 months ago
Anonymous
He lives that memory every day by helping others that are in need and ask for his help. He's willing to fight other people's fights to protect them. How is that not remembering Shanks' sacrifice? Because the animators didn't do a flashback for it every 2 minutes? We have enough flashbacks as it is.
>Wanted to teach Luffy a lesson
Absolute cope.
The only other explanation is that Oda didn't think that far ahead. This is a good enough alternative.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>moron that pays for Ganker says stupid shit
Many such cases.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You don't even understand what is going on so maybe you should shut the frick up. This is like saying that after defeating Freeza Goku is now going to win every fight and beat every villain because he became the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gear 5 was getting stalemated by fricking Lucci. It's not some instant win, Luffy isn't anymore predestined than any other shonen protagonist.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon YOU are the one who don't understand what gear 5 is, holy shit.
The problem isn't his power. It's how Luffy is the reincarnation of fricking JOYBOY, guided by the "will" of his mythical zoan fruit which is predestined to take down the world government.
It's similar to Naruto who is a divine reincarnation. He can't fail.
9 months ago
Anonymous
none of what you said is true
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no you don't understand >proceeds to spew incorrect bulslhit
Frick off. You have probably never read a chapter of One Piece in your life.
Idiots, watch up to Luffy vs Lucci and talk to me again. And I am not talking about enies lobby... Pic related.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>gets all his info from Ganker shitposts
Makes sense. /dbs/ regular, are you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>watch up to
I've read every manga chapter, 3 times over. I read every weekly release twice, first on TCB and then on Mangaplus. I don't need to watch the non-canon anime to know what I'm talking about
now that you've lost, you've shown your true colors by posting a phone screencap of a shitpost. better luck next time
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fool, have fun watching pirate jesus pre-destined to win.
Oh I didn't even mention this but now haki can nullify anything, even devil fruit abilities, so one piece is now glorified dragon ball, which I guess is a good thing for those without taste such as (you)
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no you don't understand >proceeds to spew incorrect bulslhit
Frick off. You have probably never read a chapter of One Piece in your life.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So what, the fruit is going to MAKE him do all that? Not the fact they've stood in the way of his goal and fricked with his friends enough for him to want to knock them down a peg?
Do you hear yourself right now?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, it is stated that the fruit shapes the will of the user.
If Luffy wasn't the chosen one, he'd probably have become a marine. There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1 despite everyone in his family being marines.
9 months ago
Anonymous
are you moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
>There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1
He was saying that before eating the fruit
>despite everyone in his family being marines.
Except his dad, I guess
9 months ago
Anonymous
>He was saying that before eating the fruit
Anon his will was already shaped by the fruit even before eating it, such is destiny
9 months ago
Anonymous
>There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1 despite everyone in his family being marines
Yes there is. His name was Shanks. >But he gave him the fruit!
As if that changed anything in that regard
9 months ago
Anonymous
The fruit controlled Shanks into taking it to Luffy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
he's not predestined to do anything >but he has the same fruit as Joyboy!
Joyboy lost >but the fruit chose him!
because of his personality >but he's now a god!
Usopp was labeled "god" 8 years ago. Enel 21 years ago >but his powers are godlike!
he's just stretching
9 months ago
Anonymous
He wasn't predestined? He just ate the fruit? It was originally meant for Ace. When a devil fruit user dies, the fruit spawns to a nearby fruit.
It's the same "destiny" as the chosen undead from Dark Souls. It's less the person and more At some point, someone will get it right and be lucky enough to make it far enough to become destined.
Inevitably it'd come true with a sample size that large.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>the fruit spawns to a nearby fruit.
Ackchually it's hinted the fruit needs to be the correct sort, like a banana devil fruit will only respawn in a nearby banana
9 months ago
Anonymous
>gets hit by Blackbeards Darkness powers >loses all of his Nika bullshit
SORRY KEKFFY, THE ONE PIECE IS MINE ZEHAHAHA
9 months ago
Anonymous
>punches Blackbeard with his big CoC
9 months ago
Anonymous
Blackbeard will absorb luffy and there will be an eclipse while he monologs. Then when the light peers through luffy will beat him
9 months ago
Anonymous
I unironically want Luffy to lose his fruit. Shanks will tell him his keikaku of intentionally feeding him the Nika, Luffy will get pissed, he'll straight up let Blackbeard take his fruit, then win without one because people with fruits can't go to Laugh Tale anyway.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>people with fruits can't go to Laugh Tale anyway.
???
9 months ago
Anonymous
it's a fan theory becase both Toki and Buggy got suddenly ill as the Roger Pirates were coming closer to getting the One Piece
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure it's just coincidence that the two people with fruits in Roger's crew (Toki, Buggy), didn't want to go.
Goda does it again
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure it's just coincidence that the two people with fruits in Roger's crew (Toki, Buggy), didn't want to go.
9 months ago
Anonymous
was it ever explained how blackbeard stole those devil fruits, how many can he hold and why he hasn't, for instance, been hunting df users to get a billion powers for himself? I'm sure they would come in handy, some fruits are just naturally busted.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing about Blackbeard has been explained. The explanation for the existence of DFs is that they exist because someone in history wanted to have that particular superpower. No really that's it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The explanation for the existence of DFs is that they exist because someone in history wanted to have that particular superpower
I'm not dying for an explanation, but it CAN'T just really be it, right? I mean, oda could still explain it properly if he wanted to, right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty that's what Vegapunk told us iirc.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It hasn't been really explained further. Though it's probably less "one day a dude woke up and wanted to be rubberman" and more like humanity's collective desires being condensed into particular fruits
9 months ago
Anonymous
I have no problem with this. >some unatural entity (the devil?) gets bored and wants to shake things up. earth doesn't like it >grants peoples wishes through powers in the form of fruits, so even if the person dies the wish remains and the fruit respawns
this is probably the easiest and most obvious explanation
9 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know jack shit about this series. In fact, you're likely a fricking anime secondary. Blow it out your ass, and learn to pay attention.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't the previous Joyboy like, lose?
9 months ago
Anonymous
yes because he lacked the mermaid b***h or something like that which is even more hilarious
>Knowing that everything in OP is predestined and Luffy can't fail ruins it. >protagonist wont die in a shonen cartoon for teenagers
Your delusion can only go so far before I stop taking your seriously
Honestly, I've been glad for it, since it had always bugged me a bit that Gear 3rd worked when it physically shouldn't have. We've had instances of "Rubber shouldn't do that" back as far as Lucci right before he gets knocked the frick through the wall in Enies Lobby, so I'd say it's brilliant and triply brilliant if he managed to make it fit this well WITHOUT planning it that far back.
He didn't stopped being of rubber. You automatically dropped it when you saw it without reading the explanation. The power of God Nika is that his body is made out of rubber. The fruit was a zoan, so luffy's body IS made of rubber.
There really does feel like a stark difference between pre ts one piece, post ts one piece, and now wano and post wano one piece. I don't know what it is but it just doesn't feel the same anymore, it feels like it's being written for an entirely new audience and the only people still invested are people that can't let go of the past.
but if you look at it it was a "necessary" asspull, Kaido was waaay oabeve the powerlevels Lufi had so far (Katakuri ain't shit against a fricking Yonko) and whatever the frick is going to happen after wano needed a powercreep hard, so that's why Oda came up with Nika, is an asspull, whoever tells you it was foreshadowed is bullshiting, but at this point it was necessary.
Oda should've just given Kaido a weakness or something. Or have Big Mom stab in the back or something. Nika was a horrible way to handle it. When Who2 started talking about it I thought it felt forced and awkward. If only I knew.
Yeah, at the start of Wano Luffy was still pitifully weak and got 1-shot by Kaido. He had to gain several powerups to catch up: advanced armament, advanced conquerors and gear 5.
Wouldn't go that far and what made One Piece worse had its onset way earlier, but Nika is part of it
It's completely random and doesn't care about consistency or foreshadowing or good writing in general
>rubber fruit for 20 years >is suddenly the do whatever you want sun god fruit >even though it never showed any traits of anything but rubber-related stuff >muh chosen one >muh super saiyan
i know some people say that oda hinted early on thats its really not just a rubber fruit since all of luffys gears dont make any since if he was just a rubberman but oda most definitely was not thinking that far ahead early on
Gear 3 makes perfect sense and gear 2 is fine, its him deliberately pumping parts of his body to blood dope. Gear 4 is the stupid one since its haki man.
true, at least for me, i dropped the moment Luffys fruit stopped being rubber.
Why lie on the internet who are you trying to impress? You dropped a journey of over 1k chapters because of a cool power up just because it wasn't very well foreshadowed?
It didn't ruin it for me but it was a piece of absolute shit writing, he didn't even needed to do much to not ruin it, it didn't need to be the ultimate special zoan, by being the ultimate special zoan, it makes Luffy not free, because profetic chosen ones are not free by definition, Luffy's dream is dead.
It could just be a rubber fruit awakening, with literally the same powers and appearance, Oda should just have Luffy awaken it mid battle, or even after taking a hit but without literally dying.
OP still has the cool lore and worldbuilding, fun battles, great characters, but this Nika shit soured the series for me, the main theme of it, which is freedom of doing what you want, got completely shattered.
>it makes Luffy not free, because profetic chosen ones are not free by definition, Luffy's dream is dead.
Luffy doesn't even know about his fruit's history. He wasn't listening when Zunesha called him Joy Boy and no one was around to explain it to him afterward. To him this is a cool power and nothing else.
Saying the fruit negates Luffy's freedom is like saying his statut as a carrier of the Will of D. makes him a mere tool of fate. The OP universe doesn't run on prophecies (except for that one about Luffy eventually destroying Fishman Island), but it does run on Inherited Will, which actually affects Luffy. He got the taste for adventure from Shanks, who got it from Roger, who got it from who knows who, and when Ace died Whitebeard's crew saved Luffy with the explicit mention that he had inherited his brother's will.
People often think the manga's theme is simple Freedom VS Oppression with Luffy VS the World Governement, but it's actually a threeways between Luffy, the WG, and Blackbeard with Freedom VS Control VS Fate
>Blackbeard think everything is predetermined by fate (which is what you think the Nika-Nika fruit pushes Luffy into), and all you can do ride it out, and it exonerates you from personal responsibilities and honors because it's all out of your hand, see? That's why BB casually kills people from his own crew and later tries to recruit Ace. There's no ill will, it's all just fate, it was always going to happen.
>Luffy has the Inherited Will of the people, which the manga shows on a small scale basically everytime he shows up on a island under an oppressive ruler and bring back the people's freedom and smile. He doesn't do it out of a divine mission, but because he gets along really easily with people and hates when they're sad. The Nika fruit is, at best, born out of mankind's desire for freedom and simply found a perfect receptacle in Luffy.
>The WG is about absolute control, beyond the will of anything other than itself
i used to read one piece
just read about this nika stuff
wow
kinda get the feel that oda just wants to end it but his editor pushes him to put some ridiculous shit in it to prolong it
one piece used to be cool
now its just diverged too much
it shouldve ended around alabasta imo when it was still somewhat fresh
Honestly the only good writing post-timeskip has been Whole Cake Island. 700 chapters and barely anything worth reading, just endless hanging plot threads and forced cliffhangers.
Post timeskip One Piece was so fricking bad. We went from what was basically an adventure manga to shonen fight Hispanic bait haki power levels where Oda literally reguritated the same plot over and over. Plus the focus got taken away from the Straw Hats and Oda seperated the crew for half a decade. Now Gear 5 is an asspull to end all asspull and normalgays are eating it up
Wano was a fricking mistake. WCI was good, because you could feel there was a genuine threat there. Then Wano comes along with shoving zoo animals into a Samurai setting and making Big Mom into Big Meme and it turned into an eyesore clusterfrick.
Yeah Whole Cake island is the one good post timeskip arc (even though Sanji's character was ruined.) I really liked the Big Mom Pirates and her control of the huge island nation really made her feel like an Emperor. She had her own giant Navy armada and security systems everywhere and was already ahead of the Straw Hats with Pudding being a spy. Made Kaido and Orochi look like idiots. And lets not even get started with all the aborted plot arcs and characters of Wano and the stupid Oden flashback that ruined the pacing of the start of the raid. And the raid going on for far too long as well
The biggest offender of Wano for me was that it focused too much on side characters that I couldn't give less of a frick about, like most of the samurai. Most of the Wano characters had shit and boring designs and you just get exhausted reading about their "muh struggle for freedom", when it's been done a thousand times before in previous arcs. It was like a breath of fresh air when the arc ended, but the Egghead arc hasn't been too great either.
>but the Egghead arc hasn't been too great either
Egghead's problem so far has mostly been oda deciding to start visiting all of these spinning plates but only one chapter at a time sequentially instead of doing mini arcs to show them off. It makes sense if they're all going to interact (actually interact not just react via newspaper) at the end but even if they do its still a lot of time spent waiting for payoff between loads of shit that you can't care about like all the WG shit that does the opposite of inspire mystery. Oda has just forgotten how to write arc specific characters who are interesting and likeable but still gives them even more focus now to the detriment of the strawhats who are more or less shadows of their former selves with so little screen time.
Which movie?
Dude, jot seeing brook and franky makes me appreciate even more this frame. For some reason they always felt like unnecessary bloat to me. Like, the have their moments in WCI and dressrosa, but tbh I would rather get more Nami and Ussopp screentime, and more Robin fights.
>Imagine the gameplay
same shit, different skin, just like the source?
>toon force reveal >enemy is a giant flying dragon >no terrain/trap gags >neither side uses weapons or tools, no potential for funny props >fight takes place in a dbz desert
gear 5 is a transform though, so it'll only last like 30-45 seconds.
Also it's being added to a fricking half decade old game, who cares. this pretty much just solidifies that there's no pirate warriors 5 and never will be.
It literally is animated by americans you subhuman dumbfricks.
Thurlow is the homosexual in charge of it. He's the americ**t shilling that "black owned" anime studio trying to force "diversity" in japanese anime.
Mcfricking have a nice day.
>i, homosexual Black person, am a huge flamboyant homosexual
lmao what a cringe homosexual. i hope japan deports all the westoid homosexuals for once and for all.
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You snowpiggies are all for "inclusion" when you are not immediately the ones in the frame. 2 black folks are going to destroy anime? Not the White owned Netcliques and Crunchyholes? White folks have it so hard, what a shoah.
These "people" stay isolated in their dens for too long and start believing in whatever delusions their brain has established regardless of how far from the truth it is
>diversity in art >all black characters >no whites, yellows or ayylmaos
marcianitobros...
>diversity in art >all black characters >no whites, yellows or ayylmaos >marcianitobros.
Of course it's owned by two american blacks.
You snowpiggies are all for "inclusion" when you are not immediately the ones in the frame. 2 black folks are going to destroy anime? Not the White owned Netcliques and Crunchyholes? White folks have it so hard, what a shoah.
Anime is literally fanservice. No fujo nor waifugay is gonna want to watch realistic nigs there
Just make your own animation with blacks and stop forcing nips to draw things they dont want
Is this like that magazine shitting on ff16 lack of diversity (lie, it has arabs) only for their staff to be full of israelites and whites and no blacks?
Stupid woketard Black person ruined one piece?
GO WOKE GET RAPED.
We need to boycott toei just like we did with bud light. I'm not supporting him. Just look how this colonizer makes nami breasts smaller, Usopp turn out to be israeli, and ruins al the lore that oda made to fit his woke agenda.
They should fire this director, it doesn't even look like looney tunes shit, it's all wobbly and over animated, and the manga had a much clear view of what's going on. This
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looks much cleaner and impactful. I get Ganker now, anime is fricking dead.
this is the worst part about it for me
I hated in in Naruto and just KNEW that Oda wouldn't have went the same route. I like the abilities itself but I really fricking hate that it was an uber special fruit now.
>One Piece was about how some young teen who accidentally consumed a fruit that gives him special powers as he slowly works his way up to become the king of the pirates while meeting tons of new friends >Luffy was never the chosen one or muh destiny bullshit, just a guy who got extremely far thanks to his determination and making new friendships >retcons this infavor of making Luffy into a god and the rubber fruit was actually a Nika with destiny bullshit
Can we get ONE shonen that doesn't pull this shit
>young author start manga with the idea that hard work will pay >gets older and realize that hard work doesn't pay. run everything into the ground with chosen one bullshit
Every time
Where are you people getting this from? Luffy was never the "hard work" guy that fought an unfair reality. Even as early as Loguetown you have Luffy getting bailed out by destiny. We've known since 2004 that he's the grandson of the greatest marine, the son of the most wanted man in the world, the brother of Whitebeards 1st division commander. Even before that, all the way back to Long Ring Long Island, you have Aokiji saying Luffy is going to be a problem if left alive and only sparing him because of Garp. In Marineford you have Akainu head hunting him specifically. Luffy has always been special and every arc has just hammered that nail down little by little until Gear 5.
>hard work will pay
No matter how hard you train, you'll never be able to beat up a tiger in a straight stand up fight.
So you use a spear, poison it, gang up on it with a lot of men, etc.
Don't get why anons get mindblown when shit like that never works out. What does hard work even mean? It's work smarter not harder.
Because in life no matter how hard you work you hit a wall. This wall is what we call a limit and only few exceptional individuals are able to break said limit. So for must people that can't break said limit it feels like the ones who do are Chosen by Providence to break said limit. Keep in mind the chosen one trope is not limited to one specific culture which makes it interesting.
this is the worst part about it for me
I hated in in Naruto and just KNEW that Oda wouldn't have went the same route. I like the abilities itself but I really fricking hate that it was an uber special fruit now.
>One Piece was about how some young teen who accidentally consumed a fruit that gives him special powers as he slowly works his way up to become the king of the pirates while meeting tons of new friends >Luffy was never the chosen one or muh destiny bullshit, just a guy who got extremely far thanks to his determination and making new friendships >retcons this infavor of making Luffy into a god and the rubber fruit was actually a Nika with destiny bullshit
Can we get ONE shonen that doesn't pull this shit
You do know there's different meaning in terms of destiny?
We know Luffy will find the one piece at the end of the series, but nothing about becoming a god while retconning the rubber fruit.
The 5 elder planets are also called warrior gods but they likely have nothing to do with actual gods. It's probably just a rank give to high tier fighters (Nika is also called the "warrior of liberation")
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nika was called a god for his powers, not mere govt rank. Those same people you mentioned tried to cover up Nika, so his status was not mere hyberbole.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Going from Who's Who rant, they called him a God since he went around freeing slaves without a care in the world and all over the place
The only person who was revered as a God for their power as Enel and his powers were a lot more broken than 'rubber body'
9 months ago
Anonymous
Who's Who is irrelevant. The World govt know more about Nika than him and they call him a god. The fruit is based on him, stop coping.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If Enel also possibly has the powers of a god with his devil fruit then it is not exactly countering what is being pointed by Luffy, it only makes sense how Luffy beat Enel, seeing as he also has the powers of a god.
Arguments in favor of Gear 5/Nika >expands on Luffy's abilities in an interesting way; abilities largely fall in line with past awakenings >having the fruit is confirmed to not be an instant win in the past (Joyboy failed to liberate the fishmen, for example) >the effect of Luffy being a "chosen one" on him is currently nil and will likely stay that way
Arguments against Gear 5/Nika >any major reveal after 25 continuous years is going to be difficult to apply >real possibility of the whole series being a setup by Shanks (or some other means of removing Luffy's agency) >plot armor is still going strong, Luffy's yet to be challenged while in Gear 5 >asspull win for the Kaido fight (ironically, PW4 arguably resolved that better)
Anything I missed?
>expands on Luffy's abilities in an interesting way
he can just hit and grab harder when it didn't work before, with just extra effect >having the fruit is confirmed to not be an instant win in the past (Joyboy failed to liberate the fishmen, for example)
it's a shonen, stop mental gymnastics, fluffy will beat the 3 admirals, fluffy will beat Im, he will win in the end >the effect of Luffy being a "chosen one" on him is currently nil and will likely stay that way
the guy just dropped the hidden super secret fruit that make the entire marine piss and shit their pants, what are you on about?
>fluffy will beat the 3 admirals, fluffy will beat Im, he will win in the end
My reference to plot armor was acknowledging that exact issue >what are you on about?
If it impacted Luffy as a character and he started taking on this role as a chosen savior of the world, that'd be a major departure. Currently it has not.
>If it impacted Luffy as a character and he started taking on this role as a chosen savior of the world, that'd be a major departure. Currently it has not.
you're an anime only right?
in the manga we had a page where Luffy's dream isn't to be the king of pirates.
so yes, it will be save the world bullshit
>Luffy's dream isn't to be the king of pirates.
I am so glad i stopped watching when The Strawhats reunited in sabaody
It was na accidental drop but holy frick did it pay off
One piece cucks....I only pity you
>luffy now has le epic loony tunes powers
dogshit show
dogshit character
dogshit powers
dogshit artstyle
i love perona
dogshit filler
dogshit character arcs
dogshit milked franchise
dogshit games
dogshit everything
I'm behind by about 20 episodes on the anime but I decided to watch the new episode cause I wanted to see Gear 5.
Are they back to doing outro songs or is this just a one off cause the episode is a big deal?
The outro is because they keep running out of animation budget, that's why they loop the same animation 3 times and have 5 minutes of flashbacks every episode.
Oh really? I skipped the intro cause they were doing that thing before where they play clips from the episode before.
Wouldn't mind chopping that down to get outros back, I thought part of the reason we dropped outros is that we were so deep into the arc that we needed more time for recap.
nah, it's just the same rubber stuff, just amplified. Oda decided to illustrate it with more gags and people translated it into being actual meta-warping toon bullshit; it isn't
>Luffy's fruit got retconned into a Zoan which shouldn't have it's awakening affecting the environment like Paramecia's awakening
Exactly. Even revealing that the fruit was secretly different the whole time would've been acceptable if it became the Rubberhose fruit, making him a rubberhose man, instead of just the rubber fruit. It shouldn't have, it should just be acceptable that paramecia awakenings are some great fricking bullshit after what Doffy pulled, but it would still be better than saying that this one specific zoan is so hyper special that its awakening can directly infect the surrounding environment with its own attributes. Even Buddha couldn't do that shit.
That's an attack, not converting the walls to the properties of the user. Doffy smashed some buildings with thread, its still different from him directly converting shit into threads to manipulate. The same would be Sengoku converting the execution platform into a solid gold statue or some shit which would honestly be a not terrible explanation for where the frick all the money comes from
9 months ago
Anonymous
>its still different from him directly converting shit into threads to manipulat
I might've lose the thread of this discussion because that's exactly what he does once he awakens his fruit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Correct, the issue is not what he does or his personality while doing it the issue is the retcon reasoning behind it. Luffy should just have the gomu-gomu fruit and awakening it should result in the exact same fight. He didn't awaken the gomu-gomu fruit, Oda has revealed that he never actually had the gum-gum fruit he was actually a Mythical Zoan the entire time. He awakened the Hito-Hito (human-human) fruit Model:Nika gaining its perfected hybrid form and it just so happens that Nika, a legendary god-like being, had the properties of rubber too. This is not only an idiotic retcon tripling down on the removal of luffy's everyman appeal but also makes the fight make even less sense as an awakened paramecia does exert influence on the surrounding world while an awakened Zoan is just supposed to be a massive stat upgrade even for the 'god of freedom'.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Small indie mangaka, need to sell merchandise to pay rent, prease undastandu.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>even for the 'god of freedom'.
No. That's why its the god of freedom.
You're whining about shit you hyped up on your own.
kaido is clearly affected by it based on a few gags, him getting a cartoonish lump on his head and swirly stars, and him getting covered in burnt ash and blowing a puff of black smoke, then shaking off said burnt ash like a dog shaking water off it's fur
He makes glasses out of his hair but if you stretch your definition of rubber enough this probably still count as just turning things into rubber, the glasses could just be rubber stretched so thin it becomes transparent.
The fight scene was animated like utter shit. Poor pacing, poor frame holds, just an utter schizo mess that made the Pain fight from Naruto look well animated by comparison.
It scares me how many anime only zoom-zooms there are who never read the mangas and have no clue what's coming up. It's like the Attack on Titan watchers finding out about the ending five years after the fact or however long it took.
How can you enjoy these series but not have an interest in the author's actual vision? I don't get it.
>metallica
In what world aren't they or anyone from the entertainment industry sellouts? Are you some moronic boomer who fell for their marketing team?
No Sengoku is a crime
Ryokugyu was never going to happen, it's too soon
But the lack of Calamities is odd. Maybe they didn't want to push Wano even more than they already were, but still.
Prediction: The inevitable fight between Luffy and Blackbeard will either cement or break the "chosen one" aspect. Which result it will be is uncertain, but it will be the defining moment.
It's crazy how One Piece has been going for 3 decades and during all that time all it's done is rip off the tropes and stylings of more inventive shonen anime and has never once done anything impressive on its own.
>gear 5 didn’t break crunchyroll >didn’t trend on twitter >pixiv is barren
When will jump just kill one piece? Do they secretly enjoy seeing Oda try to cling to relevancy?
Capeshit comics have been fully dead since the late 90s bruh. The movies create the illusion that DC and Marvel comics are relevant, but in reality they should have all been canceled decades ago.
Still. That's over 60 years of sales that One Piece beat in 20 mainly by their little island. Even if comics have dropped since OP started it's still impressive and reinforces their mentality that they don't need the world wide market.
They don't need it obviously. Japan has always been the main market for otaku content. It's not like Sony and Nintendo that do care about worldwide sales.
The point is that weebs get a wrong impression about One Piece popularity. It still big in Japan, but it never became as popular as Naruto and Dragon Ball in the rest of the world.
>that they don't need the world wide market.
This is fox and the grapes shit. Nips just suck ass at capitalizing on anime & manga demand being at its highest point ever thanks to the internet.
I thought the manga, anime and games are fun. though I wish warriors 4 had more story content like 3. it felt really unfinished and it didn't have that cool island map thing that 3 has where you go whichever way and have to fight made up fights. 🙂
Let's not begin to pretend Luffy approaches Bugs-level toonery with a few funny punches and boingy SFX. Even Lobo or The Mask would still slaughter him as it stands, especially with his clearly-defined water weakness still intact.
>PW4 needed more enemy and stage variety, harder missions and add back some of the cut characters from 3 >instead we get more wankno and movie shilling
At least Roger should be fun to play with r-right?
Probably. Depends on where they go with him. I'm a bit worried he'll be too much like Shanks to be worth using.
I'm glad Garp is coming back, at least.
>every single pirate warriors 4 clip is at mega low hp because hero's strength and hero's body got nerfed to shit for cheat death and undying
I fricking hate it.
Same, Leader's Strength and Miraculous strength were also nearly as good as Hero's they just weren't as consistent and shit like quick charge, sniper's wisdom, unique action enhancement, status effect bonuses, combo enhancements, and all the wisdoms were all good enough that even though you had a regular build you could change it up and still not be that bad.
Literally every character in 4 is Undying, cheat death, full force burst enhancement, concentration, and resilience.
I like the theory that he froze the stab wound Shiryu gave Garp, and in that shot is freezing his tears. I still wanna believe he's on the Marine side.
>KAIDOOO!!! HOW DARE YOU HARM MY FRIENDS! >WAIT.... WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME? >IS THIS WHAT RAYLEIGH WAS TALKING ABOUT? >THE DEMON MONKEY BLOOD... >MUGIWARA-YA STOP THIS! IF YOU KILL KAIDO YOU BECOME JUST LIKE HIM! >IT'S TO LATE NOW TORAO... >GEAR... DEATH.... HAKI MAN!!!!
would you have prefered this instead you fricking idiots
>blackbeard: ZEHAHAHA MUGIWARA YOU'LL NEVER DEFEAT MY MYTHICAL INU INU NO MI, MODEL CERBERUS, DARK TREMOR MODE >luffy: chopper... zoro... everyone else, forgive me... but I'll have to go all out, just this once... >nami: NOOO LUFFY IF YOU STOP SMILING NOW YOU MIGHT NEVER SMILE AGAIN >luffy: REVERSE GEAR... ON!
>Anime about believing in your dreams >Protagonist has a wacky but overall not top tier power. >New powers are introduced >OH MY SUPER SPECIAL BORN-ONLY HAKI THAT MAKES MOBS FAINT. >OH MY LEGENDARY REALITY-BENDING SUPER POWER THAT IS SSSS-TIER. >OH MY DESTINED FUTURE TO LIBERATE THE WORLD AS JOYBOY
Lmao, One piece went from "you can achieve your dreams if never give up and work hard towards your goal" to "you can only succeed if you are lucky and you were born with a special destiny awaiting you".
Luffy literally cannot lose at this point, he is the D (and joyboy) destined to destroy the WG and liberate the world.
Pity, blackbeard seemed like an interesting antagonist.
I don't understand this line of thinking honestly, he still had to work his ass off to awaken the fruit and have the imagination to actually utilise it.
If the fruit mind controls the user then why didn't it just automatically give him the coordinates to where the one piece is, why did it make him do all this side shit instead of booking it to Raftel?
Work hard?
He awakened because of deus ex machina.
Kaido won fair and square, then because of FATE luffy suddenly got godly superpowers.
There is no reason for Luffy to awaken at that point other than giving him another chance to fight kaido after being defeated.
From what I can tell is just like Doffy's (or any paramecia) Awakened state, it turns everything into whatever the user's properties are, so rubber.
I guess Oda just turned everything wacky and over the top to help give more that idea of "Nika the warrior that gave smiles to peoples faces", a power so moronic that you can't help but laugh.
I really want to slap the director, he basically fumbled the entire latter half of the episode except the part about Luffy grabbing Kaidou and going SO LONG GAY BOWSER on him, which is merely okay
I think they really just needed to use a little less cartoon sound effects but also a wider variety of them, especially the one they spammed while luffy was throwing kaido, didn't fit at all
also I just realized that might be an issue if every single attack gear 5 does in op4 has a wacky sound effect, that'd be fricking annoying after a while
More like the west fears the greatest manga/anime in the world, remember americans fear sexy women, you'll never see this in Fortnite and thats good since they'd just censor them
my biggest gripe with luffy right now isn't that his fruit is of a rubber man instead of just rubber, but that just rubber is everything he's ever shown and his devil fruit had nothing to hide up until now.
I mean, has luffy done anything up until this fight that couldn't be explained by him just being rubber like he was supposed to be? >if you think about it a lot of his older abilities and transformations don't make realistic sense
yeah but it made sense in the reality of the show. no character ever questioned this before because nothing he did was questionable in the reality of the series.
>no character ever questioned this before because nothing he did was questionable in the reality of the series.
They did, for example it was said that the homing cobra attack was impossible to pull off with how rubber works
oh shit I forgot about that. did it happen anywhere else or was it just this instance?
Nah, if Luffy's fruit stayed a Paramacia and the whole Nika stuff was cut people wouldn't question it. I think Oda made the fruit a Zoan for simple reasons >He wanted Luffy to change appearance in gear 5 and wanted to stick with zoan = different form rule >He wanted to introduce Luffy's fruit being "sentient" enough to evade the WG for centuries and decided to keep Zoans as the only fruits with inner wills (although I think Blackbeard said that the Darkness fruit "chose" him as some point so maybe there's more to it)
>if Luffy's fruit stayed a Paramacia and the whole Nika stuff was cut people wouldn't question it
this one I have to agree with, his new powers aren't that outrageous compared to what he's been pulling up until now.
>He literally just made that up
did he? I remember something like that happening but honestly my memory is fuzzy at best, so I'm not sure about the details.
Don't listen to that fricking moron, here from the wiki. >Python (大蛇, Paison?, literally meaning "Great Snake/Serpent"): Using a combination of Busoshoku Haki and his rubber body, Luffy is now able to redirect his punches during an attack instead of retracting it back, allowing himself to bypass the necessary build-up time between attacks, making his attacks into semi-homing attacks.[32] Whilst in Boundman form the attack can continue stretching without losing momentum; in his Snakeman form, the attack goes a step further by continuously accelerating until Luffy retracts it.[33] However, Kaidou noted that this ability to bend the trajectory of attacks should not be possible given the innate nature of rubber.[10] The kanji for this attack can be read as "Orochi", likely nodding to the famed Yamato-no-Orochi.
Nah, if Luffy's fruit stayed a Paramacia and the whole Nika stuff was cut people wouldn't question it. I think Oda made the fruit a Zoan for simple reasons >He wanted Luffy to change appearance in gear 5 and wanted to stick with zoan = different form rule >He wanted to introduce Luffy's fruit being "sentient" enough to evade the WG for centuries and decided to keep Zoans as the only fruits with inner wills (although I think Blackbeard said that the Darkness fruit "chose" him as some point so maybe there's more to it)
People have been speculating since the model Nika reveal that Teach has also got a mythical zoan, one that would also cover why he can have multiple powers.
First guesses were generally model Cerberus, but with the release of Film Red and Tot Musica's later forms also having Blackbeard's three skull design it's also a potential contender.
That would still leave the oddity of him not needing to sleep even back in Roger's era, though.
Yeah, the Naruto fight is better and didn't waste my time with flashbacks, forced zoom ins and extensive content that spans 5 episodes for the sake of making it longer.
Because they're like making a deal with the devil. You get a power up but lose the ability to swim I didn't even google this, it's just that fricking obvious anon tard
One Piece is the rare exception. It makes fun of trannies and doesn't really have a lot of gay character design that turns white boys gay (unlike Naruto or Final Fantasy for example)
Yamato and who else? I don't remember troons freaking out over Kiku, it's mostly Yamato they're salivating over cause she's actually popular and they're desperate for acceptance.
More likely you're just exaggerating. Kiku got outed as a troony and no one gave a shit except a few fetishists on Ganker. Yamato called herself a man and trannies haven't shut the frick up about it ever since.
God, I hate that fricking character the Sanji selfinserter spams him every fricking day, it killed the threads for me more than Bridget spam did for GG threads
I exorcised myself from /opg/ a long time ago. It was fun to post in it when Yamato got denied from the SHs, but now it's just too much waifuhomosexualry going on.
>anime's pacing is terrible >Oda has gone senile and the manga's art is absolute dumpster now
It's fricking over wanpissisters. WCI was the last good arc
>apparently
Pacing hasn't been good in One Piece for literal decades. Interrupting the Gear 5 reveal (which was already stalling for time with the usual Toei "zoom in individually on everyone's reaction to every event as they gasp in shock for seconds on end") just to focus on prostitutehori being a prostitute was fricking jarring. So was them replaying the atrocious CGI scene of Kaido attacking the live floor from last episode.
?t=181 >terrible animation to the point you can't understand shit >face close ins to hide the terrible animation >public domain clown noises that go along with a garbage symphonic OST they've been using since early Wano
OHOHOH AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH WAN PISS BROS WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS
>even more eye magic
but yeah that does look better then this first showing of gear 5 overall, not because gear 5 is cartoony but because it wasn't done great
The previous battles leading up to Gear 5 have been beautiful and this isn't even the actual fight, it's just the introduction to Gear 5. The next episode is where the real shit will occur.
Does Oda even draw the manga anymore? All you ever hear about with these long running weekly manga is how grueling it is to do. I find it hard to believe that he's still able to do this and wants to do it. He must just be storyboarding and supervising a team of assistants right?
>Sanji gets retconned from a cool cook trained by a former killer pirate into being a flawed ninja warlord, just to discover that he wasn't flawed at all >Luffy fruit gets retconned into being the chosen one fruit, making all joy boy and roger parallelism moronic since anyways he's already a god
Now I'm thankful that Zoro doesn't have any stupid background lore.
Zoro's grand-uncle was the Daimyo of Ringo, his sister and a bunch of other Wano samurai fled to the East Blue. She married a literal who and then their son Roronoa Pinzoro married a mountain bandit named Terra and they had Zoro.
Maybe, from the preview 1072 seems like it's not animated by an epileptic man currently having a caffeine-induced seizure while drawing on the backseat of a runaway dirt buggy.
despite being gear 5's anime debut they shoved the actual fight in the last 10 minutes, they tried cramming so many toon gags into every frame they forgot to make it look good. I hope you're right about the next episode
>Luffy goes through literal hell to save Ace >Whitebeard loses dear men and his own life to secure Ace a future >All thrown away because Ace can't handle the bantz
Ace deserves to die again
>bantz
That's actually the funniest part about it, it honestly looks like that Sakazuki wasn't actively taunting him but just thinking aloud. Akainu was being a salty frick over losing the moral victory yet the fricking idiot firehead went back in because he overheard monologuing to the point where even Akainu was surprised at the idiocy.
I've been watching One Piece and I'm up to the fight with Crocodile in Alabasta, I've really liked it (although I much preferred the All Blue to the Grand line so far) but is it even worth continuing? I haven't seen everything that's happened since I obviously avoid spoilers and don't go looking for stuff about One Piece, but I still know Luffy is now the reincarnation of some God called Joy Boy or some shit, and sounds gay as frick.
Keep going until time skip, its loses some of the appeal into water 7 but its made up for by great action sequences and good character moments. Getting into the Summit War is where you want to start considering dropping it.
>Absalom of D Graveyard >Ashura D Oji >Arlong D Saw >Basil D Magician Hawkins >Buggy D (star) Clown >Bartolomeo D Cannibal >Go D Ussop >Bepo D Polar Bear >Bon Clay D Wild >Bellamy D Hyena >Brook D Soul King >Karoo D Uck >Caesar D Clown >Gastino D Gangster >Cedar D Pharmacist >Capone D Gang Bege >Camie D Fish >Caven D Ish >Chadros Brownbeer D Higelyges >Croco D Ile >Donquixote D Oflamingo >D Jango >Kai D O >Edwar D Newgate >Kyros D Nutcracker >Eustass D Kid >Foxy D Silver Fox >Gold Ro D Ger >Derringer D homosexual >Sanji D homosexual >D octor Hiriluk >Koushirou D Gorosei >Thousan D Sunny >Gin D Man-Demon >Jimbei [preferred translation] of D Sea >Monkey D. D. Ragon >Ma D. Monk Urouge >Vander D. Ecken >Im D Mother of Luffy >Wa D O'ichi Monji >Kozukio D En >Rocks D. Xebec >Hina D Black Cage >Bonney D Glutton >Kuro D Hundred Plans >Lor D of the Coast / Lord of D Coast >Blackbeer D Teach / Blackbeer D Marshall >Pan D A Man >Pan D A Woman >Pe D Ro >Shanks D Royal / Shanks D Redhair / Shanks D Red Poneglyph >X D Rake >Yamato D. Stoneworker
etc
Just how far does the shitpost by Oda go?
>Luffy
Reincarnation of Joyboy, son of the most wanted man and grandson of the hero of the marines! >Zoro
Super special Wano noble descendant and the reincarnation of Ryuma >Sanji
A Lunarian and the scientifically enhanced son of a scientist! >Yamato
Daughter of the strongest being >Franky
Forgotten son of Vegapunk >Nami
Descendant of royal concubines >Robin
Some Indiana Jones-tier ancestry >Jinbe
Descendant of the fattest fishmen. >Brook
Son of a Charles Manson-tier cultist musician.
Remember the words of Gold D. Roger?
>My wealth and treasures? If you are CHOSEN, I'll let you have it. Look for it, I left all of it at that place! BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE CHOSEN!
>Son of a Charles Manson-tier cultist musician
...Charles Manson wasn't a musician, anon. If you were going to name a virtuosic musician with a cult following you really should've named Paganini.
>missed a whole One Piece thread again
Damn it. But I'm still here to tell you that Robin is best girl and the ideal wife. And if you hate Nika, you're a no-fun homosexual.
Nika ruined One Piece
true, at least for me, i dropped the moment Luffys fruit stopped being rubber.
Why lie on the internet who are you trying to impress? You dropped a journey of over 1k chapters because of a cool power up just because it wasn't very well foreshadowed?
if he was rubber he wouldn't be able to perform gear 3rd or use red hawk. gear 2nd is really the only one that ever kinda made sense but lately I been doubting that. he does it because he imagines it
What's wrong with him blowing air into his bones? Him being able to move the air between bones doesn't make much sense, but just making them bigger seems fine to me.
As for Gear 4, it's just using haki to change elasticity, bounding and snake man are fine.
>but muh sunk cost fallacy
Actually pathetic.
Not him but I also dropped it at nika. Knowing that everything in OP is predestined and Luffy can't fail ruins it.
He loses fights all the fricking time, you never read or watched One Piece.
All the gear 5 haters are people who never touched the series.
Are you two moronic? Yes he may lose individual fights, but Luffy is predestined to get the one piece and take the world government down.
I know way more about one piece than you two ever will, filthy casuals
>but Luffy is predestined
no he isn't
>but Luffy is predestined to get the one piece and take the world government down.
Are you really throwing a fit that the hero of the story is going to achieve his end goal? Bro, that's every story. Fricking moron.
Yes but the hero is not usually pre-destined WITHIN HIS RESPECTIVE UNIVERSE to get it
how is he predestined
Shanks has known all along what that fruit is and he was going to give it to Ace before Luffy ate in accident (Ace being the one who was actually the destined one to become Pirate King being Rogers son and all).
Frick off, Shank didn't even realize he had conqueror's haki at the start and lost an arm for a glorified fish. Oda didn't have this nearly as figured out as you think he had.
He wanted to teach Luffy a lesson. Using Haki wouldn't have taught Luffy about sacrifice.
>Wanted to teach Luffy a lesson
Absolute cope.
Luffy hasn't remembered that sacrifice one single time during his whole adventure
He lives that memory every day by helping others that are in need and ask for his help. He's willing to fight other people's fights to protect them. How is that not remembering Shanks' sacrifice? Because the animators didn't do a flashback for it every 2 minutes? We have enough flashbacks as it is.
The only other explanation is that Oda didn't think that far ahead. This is a good enough alternative.
>moron that pays for Ganker says stupid shit
Many such cases.
You don't even understand what is going on so maybe you should shut the frick up. This is like saying that after defeating Freeza Goku is now going to win every fight and beat every villain because he became the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gear 5 was getting stalemated by fricking Lucci. It's not some instant win, Luffy isn't anymore predestined than any other shonen protagonist.
Anon YOU are the one who don't understand what gear 5 is, holy shit.
The problem isn't his power. It's how Luffy is the reincarnation of fricking JOYBOY, guided by the "will" of his mythical zoan fruit which is predestined to take down the world government.
It's similar to Naruto who is a divine reincarnation. He can't fail.
none of what you said is true
Idiots, watch up to Luffy vs Lucci and talk to me again. And I am not talking about enies lobby... Pic related.
>gets all his info from Ganker shitposts
Makes sense. /dbs/ regular, are you?
>watch up to
I've read every manga chapter, 3 times over. I read every weekly release twice, first on TCB and then on Mangaplus. I don't need to watch the non-canon anime to know what I'm talking about
now that you've lost, you've shown your true colors by posting a phone screencap of a shitpost. better luck next time
Fool, have fun watching pirate jesus pre-destined to win.
Oh I didn't even mention this but now haki can nullify anything, even devil fruit abilities, so one piece is now glorified dragon ball, which I guess is a good thing for those without taste such as (you)
>no you don't understand
>proceeds to spew incorrect bulslhit
Frick off. You have probably never read a chapter of One Piece in your life.
So what, the fruit is going to MAKE him do all that? Not the fact they've stood in the way of his goal and fricked with his friends enough for him to want to knock them down a peg?
Do you hear yourself right now?
Yes, it is stated that the fruit shapes the will of the user.
If Luffy wasn't the chosen one, he'd probably have become a marine. There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1 despite everyone in his family being marines.
are you moronic
>There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1
He was saying that before eating the fruit
>despite everyone in his family being marines.
Except his dad, I guess
>He was saying that before eating the fruit
Anon his will was already shaped by the fruit even before eating it, such is destiny
>There is no other explanation as for why he was just "I WANNA BE PIRATE" ever since day 1 despite everyone in his family being marines
Yes there is. His name was Shanks.
>But he gave him the fruit!
As if that changed anything in that regard
The fruit controlled Shanks into taking it to Luffy.
he's not predestined to do anything
>but he has the same fruit as Joyboy!
Joyboy lost
>but the fruit chose him!
because of his personality
>but he's now a god!
Usopp was labeled "god" 8 years ago. Enel 21 years ago
>but his powers are godlike!
he's just stretching
He wasn't predestined? He just ate the fruit? It was originally meant for Ace. When a devil fruit user dies, the fruit spawns to a nearby fruit.
It's the same "destiny" as the chosen undead from Dark Souls. It's less the person and more At some point, someone will get it right and be lucky enough to make it far enough to become destined.
Inevitably it'd come true with a sample size that large.
>the fruit spawns to a nearby fruit.
Ackchually it's hinted the fruit needs to be the correct sort, like a banana devil fruit will only respawn in a nearby banana
>gets hit by Blackbeards Darkness powers
>loses all of his Nika bullshit
SORRY KEKFFY, THE ONE PIECE IS MINE ZEHAHAHA
>punches Blackbeard with his big CoC
Blackbeard will absorb luffy and there will be an eclipse while he monologs. Then when the light peers through luffy will beat him
I unironically want Luffy to lose his fruit. Shanks will tell him his keikaku of intentionally feeding him the Nika, Luffy will get pissed, he'll straight up let Blackbeard take his fruit, then win without one because people with fruits can't go to Laugh Tale anyway.
>people with fruits can't go to Laugh Tale anyway.
???
it's a fan theory becase both Toki and Buggy got suddenly ill as the Roger Pirates were coming closer to getting the One Piece
Goda does it again
I'm sure it's just coincidence that the two people with fruits in Roger's crew (Toki, Buggy), didn't want to go.
was it ever explained how blackbeard stole those devil fruits, how many can he hold and why he hasn't, for instance, been hunting df users to get a billion powers for himself? I'm sure they would come in handy, some fruits are just naturally busted.
Nothing about Blackbeard has been explained. The explanation for the existence of DFs is that they exist because someone in history wanted to have that particular superpower. No really that's it.
>The explanation for the existence of DFs is that they exist because someone in history wanted to have that particular superpower
I'm not dying for an explanation, but it CAN'T just really be it, right? I mean, oda could still explain it properly if he wanted to, right?
Pretty that's what Vegapunk told us iirc.
It hasn't been really explained further. Though it's probably less "one day a dude woke up and wanted to be rubberman" and more like humanity's collective desires being condensed into particular fruits
I have no problem with this.
>some unatural entity (the devil?) gets bored and wants to shake things up. earth doesn't like it
>grants peoples wishes through powers in the form of fruits, so even if the person dies the wish remains and the fruit respawns
this is probably the easiest and most obvious explanation
You don't know jack shit about this series. In fact, you're likely a fricking anime secondary. Blow it out your ass, and learn to pay attention.
Didn't the previous Joyboy like, lose?
yes because he lacked the mermaid b***h or something like that which is even more hilarious
>pass user
>utterly horrible take
Every time
>Knowing that everything in OP is predestined and Luffy can't fail ruins it.
>protagonist wont die in a shonen cartoon for teenagers
Your delusion can only go so far before I stop taking your seriously
Nika is pure garbage
it yet another boring chosen one story.
Honestly, I've been glad for it, since it had always bugged me a bit that Gear 3rd worked when it physically shouldn't have. We've had instances of "Rubber shouldn't do that" back as far as Lucci right before he gets knocked the frick through the wall in Enies Lobby, so I'd say it's brilliant and triply brilliant if he managed to make it fit this well WITHOUT planning it that far back.
He didn't stopped being of rubber. You automatically dropped it when you saw it without reading the explanation. The power of God Nika is that his body is made out of rubber. The fruit was a zoan, so luffy's body IS made of rubber.
>true, at least for me, i dropped the moment Luffys fruit stopped being rubber.
Same bro. I haven't read one piece since onigashima ended. I still can't believe oda dropped the ball bro FRICK MAN
This. Too bad you cant say this without the fans wishing for your death, and I have been a fan since I was a kid so frick that shit.
There really does feel like a stark difference between pre ts one piece, post ts one piece, and now wano and post wano one piece. I don't know what it is but it just doesn't feel the same anymore, it feels like it's being written for an entirely new audience and the only people still invested are people that can't let go of the past.
Probably the biggest asspull from any other shonen. It doesn't even make sense.
but if you look at it it was a "necessary" asspull, Kaido was waaay oabeve the powerlevels Lufi had so far (Katakuri ain't shit against a fricking Yonko) and whatever the frick is going to happen after wano needed a powercreep hard, so that's why Oda came up with Nika, is an asspull, whoever tells you it was foreshadowed is bullshiting, but at this point it was necessary.
I honestly think he tried to foreshadow it but he did a terrible job.
Oda should've just given Kaido a weakness or something. Or have Big Mom stab in the back or something. Nika was a horrible way to handle it. When Who2 started talking about it I thought it felt forced and awkward. If only I knew.
Yeah, at the start of Wano Luffy was still pitifully weak and got 1-shot by Kaido. He had to gain several powerups to catch up: advanced armament, advanced conquerors and gear 5.
Thats what you gays said about haki.
And they are still right.
Yes, because a tame asspull will lead to a bigger asspull, which happened. In fact the first asspull was gears
Haki took a while to accept. But it eventually went down since it was better foreshadowed and even considered necessary
Wouldn't go that far and what made One Piece worse had its onset way earlier, but Nika is part of it
It's completely random and doesn't care about consistency or foreshadowing or good writing in general
>rubber fruit for 20 years
>is suddenly the do whatever you want sun god fruit
>even though it never showed any traits of anything but rubber-related stuff
>muh chosen one
>muh super saiyan
>muh chosen one
>muh super saiyan
Cool, I hope One Piss fans are seething.
i know some people say that oda hinted early on thats its really not just a rubber fruit since all of luffys gears dont make any since if he was just a rubberman but oda most definitely was not thinking that far ahead early on
Gear 3 makes perfect sense and gear 2 is fine, its him deliberately pumping parts of his body to blood dope. Gear 4 is the stupid one since its haki man.
It didn't ruin it for me but it was a piece of absolute shit writing, he didn't even needed to do much to not ruin it, it didn't need to be the ultimate special zoan, by being the ultimate special zoan, it makes Luffy not free, because profetic chosen ones are not free by definition, Luffy's dream is dead.
It could just be a rubber fruit awakening, with literally the same powers and appearance, Oda should just have Luffy awaken it mid battle, or even after taking a hit but without literally dying.
OP still has the cool lore and worldbuilding, fun battles, great characters, but this Nika shit soured the series for me, the main theme of it, which is freedom of doing what you want, got completely shattered.
>it makes Luffy not free, because profetic chosen ones are not free by definition, Luffy's dream is dead.
Luffy doesn't even know about his fruit's history. He wasn't listening when Zunesha called him Joy Boy and no one was around to explain it to him afterward. To him this is a cool power and nothing else.
Saying the fruit negates Luffy's freedom is like saying his statut as a carrier of the Will of D. makes him a mere tool of fate. The OP universe doesn't run on prophecies (except for that one about Luffy eventually destroying Fishman Island), but it does run on Inherited Will, which actually affects Luffy. He got the taste for adventure from Shanks, who got it from Roger, who got it from who knows who, and when Ace died Whitebeard's crew saved Luffy with the explicit mention that he had inherited his brother's will.
People often think the manga's theme is simple Freedom VS Oppression with Luffy VS the World Governement, but it's actually a threeways between Luffy, the WG, and Blackbeard with Freedom VS Control VS Fate
>Blackbeard think everything is predetermined by fate (which is what you think the Nika-Nika fruit pushes Luffy into), and all you can do ride it out, and it exonerates you from personal responsibilities and honors because it's all out of your hand, see? That's why BB casually kills people from his own crew and later tries to recruit Ace. There's no ill will, it's all just fate, it was always going to happen.
>Luffy has the Inherited Will of the people, which the manga shows on a small scale basically everytime he shows up on a island under an oppressive ruler and bring back the people's freedom and smile. He doesn't do it out of a divine mission, but because he gets along really easily with people and hates when they're sad. The Nika fruit is, at best, born out of mankind's desire for freedom and simply found a perfect receptacle in Luffy.
>The WG is about absolute control, beyond the will of anything other than itself
The elusive high IQ post
>high IQ post
>One Piece thread
you can only choose one
i used to read one piece
just read about this nika stuff
wow
kinda get the feel that oda just wants to end it but his editor pushes him to put some ridiculous shit in it to prolong it
one piece used to be cool
now its just diverged too much
it shouldve ended around alabasta imo when it was still somewhat fresh
Honestly the only good writing post-timeskip has been Whole Cake Island. 700 chapters and barely anything worth reading, just endless hanging plot threads and forced cliffhangers.
Post timeskip One Piece was so fricking bad. We went from what was basically an adventure manga to shonen fight Hispanic bait haki power levels where Oda literally reguritated the same plot over and over. Plus the focus got taken away from the Straw Hats and Oda seperated the crew for half a decade. Now Gear 5 is an asspull to end all asspull and normalgays are eating it up
Wano was a fricking mistake. WCI was good, because you could feel there was a genuine threat there. Then Wano comes along with shoving zoo animals into a Samurai setting and making Big Mom into Big Meme and it turned into an eyesore clusterfrick.
Yeah Whole Cake island is the one good post timeskip arc (even though Sanji's character was ruined.) I really liked the Big Mom Pirates and her control of the huge island nation really made her feel like an Emperor. She had her own giant Navy armada and security systems everywhere and was already ahead of the Straw Hats with Pudding being a spy. Made Kaido and Orochi look like idiots. And lets not even get started with all the aborted plot arcs and characters of Wano and the stupid Oden flashback that ruined the pacing of the start of the raid. And the raid going on for far too long as well
The biggest offender of Wano for me was that it focused too much on side characters that I couldn't give less of a frick about, like most of the samurai. Most of the Wano characters had shit and boring designs and you just get exhausted reading about their "muh struggle for freedom", when it's been done a thousand times before in previous arcs. It was like a breath of fresh air when the arc ended, but the Egghead arc hasn't been too great either.
>but the Egghead arc hasn't been too great either
Egghead's problem so far has mostly been oda deciding to start visiting all of these spinning plates but only one chapter at a time sequentially instead of doing mini arcs to show them off. It makes sense if they're all going to interact (actually interact not just react via newspaper) at the end but even if they do its still a lot of time spent waiting for payoff between loads of shit that you can't care about like all the WG shit that does the opposite of inspire mystery. Oda has just forgotten how to write arc specific characters who are interesting and likeable but still gives them even more focus now to the detriment of the strawhats who are more or less shadows of their former selves with so little screen time.
Which movie?
Dude, jot seeing brook and franky makes me appreciate even more this frame. For some reason they always felt like unnecessary bloat to me. Like, the have their moments in WCI and dressrosa, but tbh I would rather get more Nami and Ussopp screentime, and more Robin fights.
The webm?
It's a premovie short. Played before the cursed sword movie.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Take_Aim!_The_Pirate_Baseball_King?so=search
>Nika ruined One Piece
post-timeskip did
You don't like loony toons powers?
HxH did it better.
explain.
That shit was know for month. Why is this shilled now?
Because Gear 5 just got animated today.
I love how manic he sounds
YWNBDB
>God 5
What is this, Dragonball?
No, because Gear Fifth is 100 times better than any transformation in Super.
CUIDADO ES LUFFY BLANCO!
looks cringe was this in the manga?
Yes.
You're cringe, homosexual
>comes out in like a month
I don't want to imagine it, I want to see it.
>AHHHHHHHH CELL I'M GOING GEAR 5 ON YOU NOW
I'm looking forward to Yamato in the game!
>Imagine the gameplay
same shit, different skin, just like the source?
>toon force reveal
>enemy is a giant flying dragon
>no terrain/trap gags
>neither side uses weapons or tools, no potential for funny props
>fight takes place in a dbz desert
great for reaction images
>only the dead can know one piece from this evil
football head
gear 5 is a transform though, so it'll only last like 30-45 seconds.
Also it's being added to a fricking half decade old game, who cares. this pretty much just solidifies that there's no pirate warriors 5 and never will be.
FATFFY
>not BUFFY
baka
man, it's actually fun to watch without obnoxious sound effects
soulless take, I tell you
The sound effects are cool
Someone post the comparison of Zoro vs King in manga and anime
This is literally Looney Tunes now
Yeah, that's literally his power. Everything he does and touches turns to rubberhose physics.
SO LONG GAY KOIDO!
even funnier when you realize they're both reptiles lol
>those proportions, fingers and shit-tier facial expressions
I can tell this was animated by americans.
Why can't they stick to their own shit.
I can tell you neither read or watch One Piece
It literally is animated by americans you subhuman dumbfricks.
Thurlow is the homosexual in charge of it. He's the americ**t shilling that "black owned" anime studio trying to force "diversity" in japanese anime.
Mcfricking have a nice day.
Mentally ill
Literally American director and animator.
He also wants to destroy anime with american black shit as well.
Pic related.
>diversity in art
>all black characters
>no whites, yellows or ayylmaos
marcianitobros...
>diversity in art
>all black characters
>no whites, yellows or ayylmaos
>marcianitobros.
Of course it's owned by two american blacks.
christ why do they have to live up to all of the worst stereotypes
>director of episode 1066
>episode everyone in this thread is talking about is 1071
try again my dude
He's been working exclusively on One Piece since episode 996 last year.
So yeah, that's american animated. Not that it's hard to tell.
>i, homosexual Black person, am a huge flamboyant homosexual
lmao what a cringe homosexual. i hope japan deports all the westoid homosexuals for once and for all.
/pol/tard die
Not japanese directed...? I'm afraid this means One Piece must now be called a cartoon
You crackerhomosexuals cant go 5 minutes without whining about your toons can you
piss and moan all day but wont do a damned thing about it lel
These "people" stay isolated in their dens for too long and start believing in whatever delusions their brain has established regardless of how far from the truth it is
You snowpiggies are all for "inclusion" when you are not immediately the ones in the frame. 2 black folks are going to destroy anime? Not the White owned Netcliques and Crunchyholes? White folks have it so hard, what a shoah.
Thurlow didn't work on the latest episode in any capacity. You're getting mad at your own wild imagination.
He's worked on pretty much every episode since august two years ago. Don't be full of shit.
Anime is literally fanservice. No fujo nor waifugay is gonna want to watch realistic nigs there
Just make your own animation with blacks and stop forcing nips to draw things they dont want
Is this like that magazine shitting on ff16 lack of diversity (lie, it has arabs) only for their staff to be full of israelites and whites and no blacks?
Stupid woketard Black person ruined one piece?
GO WOKE GET RAPED.
We need to boycott toei just like we did with bud light. I'm not supporting him. Just look how this colonizer makes nami breasts smaller, Usopp turn out to be israeli, and ruins al the lore that oda made to fit his woke agenda.
Lel the one with hair is just a white but with dark skin because real blacks look too ugly to be husbandos
So how many black animators are behind this?
Zero. The black guy exploits asians, whites and one indian
>unique and vibrant
Looks like a gay version of the Boondocks.
>AMERICANS AMERICANS AMERICANS DID
>miyazaki poster doesn’t watch anime
Why is this so common?
Because he hates anime
They hired Disney animators specifically for this scene.
Wouldn't surprise me. Parts of it really have that Stephen Universe/Amphibia look to it. Gross in other words.
it's intentional moron, Gear 5 is "cartoon mode", you Black folk don't even watch OP and complain
Why cant toei resist spicking out
Because ever since they started ratings have skyrocketed. Normies legitimately love all this over the top bullshit and think it looks cool.
They should fire this director, it doesn't even look like looney tunes shit, it's all wobbly and over animated, and the manga had a much clear view of what's going on. This
looks much cleaner and impactful. I get Ganker now, anime is fricking dead.
It looks good when the camera work isn't moronic
I genuinely don't know what happened in the scene where Luffy reflects Kaido's fireball or whatever
Man he's so Guffy
I can't help but wonder if someone predicted Luffy's power going this direction many years ago.
Anytime someone says Japan produces nothing but good things show them this soulless shit.
actual forced animation
>forced animation
The single most moronic thing to ever come out of Ganker
>Chosen Piece
this is the worst part about it for me
I hated in in Naruto and just KNEW that Oda wouldn't have went the same route. I like the abilities itself but I really fricking hate that it was an uber special fruit now.
>One Piece was about how some young teen who accidentally consumed a fruit that gives him special powers as he slowly works his way up to become the king of the pirates while meeting tons of new friends
>Luffy was never the chosen one or muh destiny bullshit, just a guy who got extremely far thanks to his determination and making new friendships
>retcons this infavor of making Luffy into a god and the rubber fruit was actually a Nika with destiny bullshit
Can we get ONE shonen that doesn't pull this shit
>dbHispanic has no reading comprehension
Classic.
Dragon Ball has less awful retcons than One Piece.
Even the worst retcon in Dragon Ball(potara fusion) isn't bad when compared to One Piece retcons.
God Goku got killed by a toddler with a water pistol while kid goku could take nukes while sleeping
>wtf why is space gun better than earth gun from 40 years ago
Krillin also almost got killed by some punks with old pistols because he skipped training for 2 weeks
>why is modern gun better than gun from 40 years ago
have a nice day, Mexcrement.
One piece has no retcons.
Haki turning your body parts black only post-TS is pretty awful.
Dragon Ball doesn't have retcons because Dragon Ball doesn't have a story
>young author start manga with the idea that hard work will pay
>gets older and realize that hard work doesn't pay. run everything into the ground with chosen one bullshit
Every time
Where are you people getting this from? Luffy was never the "hard work" guy that fought an unfair reality. Even as early as Loguetown you have Luffy getting bailed out by destiny. We've known since 2004 that he's the grandson of the greatest marine, the son of the most wanted man in the world, the brother of Whitebeards 1st division commander. Even before that, all the way back to Long Ring Long Island, you have Aokiji saying Luffy is going to be a problem if left alive and only sparing him because of Garp. In Marineford you have Akainu head hunting him specifically. Luffy has always been special and every arc has just hammered that nail down little by little until Gear 5.
This plus he was groomed by Shanks who was on the pirate kings crew and one of the strongest guys in the world.
>hard work will pay
No matter how hard you train, you'll never be able to beat up a tiger in a straight stand up fight.
So you use a spear, poison it, gang up on it with a lot of men, etc.
Don't get why anons get mindblown when shit like that never works out. What does hard work even mean? It's work smarter not harder.
Oda is/was the hardest working manga author in the business.
That's Hiro Mashima.
Because in life no matter how hard you work you hit a wall. This wall is what we call a limit and only few exceptional individuals are able to break said limit. So for must people that can't break said limit it feels like the ones who do are Chosen by Providence to break said limit. Keep in mind the chosen one trope is not limited to one specific culture which makes it interesting.
so HxH?
you fricking idiots
wow cant argue with that
You do know there's different meaning in terms of destiny?
We know Luffy will find the one piece at the end of the series, but nothing about becoming a god while retconning the rubber fruit.
Luffy isn't a god, you just can't read.
Has the powers of Nika, so, he is a god.
The 5 elder planets are also called warrior gods but they likely have nothing to do with actual gods. It's probably just a rank give to high tier fighters (Nika is also called the "warrior of liberation")
Nika was called a god for his powers, not mere govt rank. Those same people you mentioned tried to cover up Nika, so his status was not mere hyberbole.
Going from Who's Who rant, they called him a God since he went around freeing slaves without a care in the world and all over the place
The only person who was revered as a God for their power as Enel and his powers were a lot more broken than 'rubber body'
Who's Who is irrelevant. The World govt know more about Nika than him and they call him a god. The fruit is based on him, stop coping.
If Enel also possibly has the powers of a god with his devil fruit then it is not exactly countering what is being pointed by Luffy, it only makes sense how Luffy beat Enel, seeing as he also has the powers of a god.
Narrator hyping Luffy =/= literal in universe prophecy.
thought about buying while on sale but looks like something I'd get bored with after 10 mins.
Did they seriously add El Blanco to one peice now?
Arguments in favor of Gear 5/Nika
>expands on Luffy's abilities in an interesting way; abilities largely fall in line with past awakenings
>having the fruit is confirmed to not be an instant win in the past (Joyboy failed to liberate the fishmen, for example)
>the effect of Luffy being a "chosen one" on him is currently nil and will likely stay that way
Arguments against Gear 5/Nika
>any major reveal after 25 continuous years is going to be difficult to apply
>real possibility of the whole series being a setup by Shanks (or some other means of removing Luffy's agency)
>plot armor is still going strong, Luffy's yet to be challenged while in Gear 5
>asspull win for the Kaido fight (ironically, PW4 arguably resolved that better)
Anything I missed?
>expands on Luffy's abilities in an interesting way
he can just hit and grab harder when it didn't work before, with just extra effect
>having the fruit is confirmed to not be an instant win in the past (Joyboy failed to liberate the fishmen, for example)
it's a shonen, stop mental gymnastics, fluffy will beat the 3 admirals, fluffy will beat Im, he will win in the end
>the effect of Luffy being a "chosen one" on him is currently nil and will likely stay that way
the guy just dropped the hidden super secret fruit that make the entire marine piss and shit their pants, what are you on about?
>fluffy will beat the 3 admirals, fluffy will beat Im, he will win in the end
My reference to plot armor was acknowledging that exact issue
>what are you on about?
If it impacted Luffy as a character and he started taking on this role as a chosen savior of the world, that'd be a major departure. Currently it has not.
>If it impacted Luffy as a character and he started taking on this role as a chosen savior of the world, that'd be a major departure. Currently it has not.
you're an anime only right?
in the manga we had a page where Luffy's dream isn't to be the king of pirates.
so yes, it will be save the world bullshit
>Luffy's dream isn't to be the king of pirates.
I am so glad i stopped watching when The Strawhats reunited in sabaody
It was na accidental drop but holy frick did it pay off
One piece cucks....I only pity you
I'm excited.
They literally can't pull it off
>gear 5 episode animation
>luffy now has le epic loony tunes powers
dogshit show
dogshit character
dogshit powers
dogshit artstyle
i love perona
dogshit filler
dogshit character arcs
dogshit milked franchise
dogshit games
dogshit everything
If I see that pic of Shartffy in that pose one more fricking time...
why does One Piece make DBS homosexuals seethe so much?
Because DB is in a decline and OP is becoming more and more relevant
>Because DB is in a decline
>OP needs 1000000 episodes to be a 5% as relevant as DB
Lmao
because toei gave a massive budget to OP while giving Super the scraps
one piece became soul again
>fuzzy blurry shit covered in artifacts
Why do people still not understand what bitrate is and why making every webm 1080p is a bad idea?
I'm behind by about 20 episodes on the anime but I decided to watch the new episode cause I wanted to see Gear 5.
Are they back to doing outro songs or is this just a one off cause the episode is a big deal?
The outro is because they keep running out of animation budget, that's why they loop the same animation 3 times and have 5 minutes of flashbacks every episode.
if i had a pair of red hot tongs and squeezed her nose real hard, would that excise her cyst?
Outros are indeed back, no more 2 minute 30 second intros.
Oh really? I skipped the intro cause they were doing that thing before where they play clips from the episode before.
Wouldn't mind chopping that down to get outros back, I thought part of the reason we dropped outros is that we were so deep into the arc that we needed more time for recap.
Shit animation, makes Yamato look like a man
That’s because he is.
I SAY CREW'S, YOU SAY FULL
CREW'S
GOT ROOM FOR ONE MORE
Don't worry, she has a spot reserved.
>they're still in not japan
>the anime-only doesn't know
I don't even watch it, they've been in not Japan for five years now.
God what oda did with Yamato was so bad it made me drop the manga
God I hate wan piss character design
i'm convinced wan piss enjoyers have some kind of brain parasite or something
is it actually "toon force"? and if it is, what's the extent of it? can luffy do shit like play with perspective or break the moon or something?
japanese goyslop who cares
anime website
and One Piece is goyslop anime, whats your point?
man you sure are cool
>Posts panel from the worst arc of usogoi
Frick off
nah, it's just the same rubber stuff, just amplified. Oda decided to illustrate it with more gags and people translated it into being actual meta-warping toon bullshit; it isn't
In a later sequence in a fight, he grabs a lightning bolt out of the sky and throws it at Kaido.
That much of a toonforce.
toon logic, so it's weaponized plot armor
Rubberhose toonforce
At least that's what it should be as an awakening of the rubber fruit and not this god of freedom shit
Funny thing is, Luffy's fruit got retconned into a Zoan which shouldn't have it's awakening affecting the environment like Paramecia's awakening
>Luffy's fruit got retconned into a Zoan which shouldn't have it's awakening affecting the environment like Paramecia's awakening
Exactly. Even revealing that the fruit was secretly different the whole time would've been acceptable if it became the Rubberhose fruit, making him a rubberhose man, instead of just the rubber fruit. It shouldn't have, it should just be acceptable that paramecia awakenings are some great fricking bullshit after what Doffy pulled, but it would still be better than saying that this one specific zoan is so hyper special that its awakening can directly infect the surrounding environment with its own attributes. Even Buddha couldn't do that shit.
>Even Buddha couldn't do that shit.
Technically the buddha fruit makes shockwaves which directly affect the surrounding environment as well
That's an attack, not converting the walls to the properties of the user. Doffy smashed some buildings with thread, its still different from him directly converting shit into threads to manipulate. The same would be Sengoku converting the execution platform into a solid gold statue or some shit which would honestly be a not terrible explanation for where the frick all the money comes from
>its still different from him directly converting shit into threads to manipulat
I might've lose the thread of this discussion because that's exactly what he does once he awakens his fruit.
Correct, the issue is not what he does or his personality while doing it the issue is the retcon reasoning behind it. Luffy should just have the gomu-gomu fruit and awakening it should result in the exact same fight. He didn't awaken the gomu-gomu fruit, Oda has revealed that he never actually had the gum-gum fruit he was actually a Mythical Zoan the entire time. He awakened the Hito-Hito (human-human) fruit Model:Nika gaining its perfected hybrid form and it just so happens that Nika, a legendary god-like being, had the properties of rubber too. This is not only an idiotic retcon tripling down on the removal of luffy's everyman appeal but also makes the fight make even less sense as an awakened paramecia does exert influence on the surrounding world while an awakened Zoan is just supposed to be a massive stat upgrade even for the 'god of freedom'.
Small indie mangaka, need to sell merchandise to pay rent, prease undastandu.
>even for the 'god of freedom'.
No. That's why its the god of freedom.
You're whining about shit you hyped up on your own.
>shit you hyped up on your own
The most ridiculous stuff he's done so far is grabbing a lighting bolt and creating aviator glasses out of his air for a quick gag
It's more "Toon Field" than force. Luffy in Joyboy state basically Toonifies anything within a certain radius of himself.
does he actually or is it an artistic change? does he do anything that couldn't be explained by him turning things into cartoon rubber?
kaido is clearly affected by it based on a few gags, him getting a cartoonish lump on his head and swirly stars, and him getting covered in burnt ash and blowing a puff of black smoke, then shaking off said burnt ash like a dog shaking water off it's fur
He makes glasses out of his hair but if you stretch your definition of rubber enough this probably still count as just turning things into rubber, the glasses could just be rubber stretched so thin it becomes transparent.
We're reaching the point where we have to stretch definitions like rubber to make sense of it
The past 25 years have leading up to people saying "that's a stretch" to describe what's happening with Luffy.
the name "joy boy" is the gayest most homosexual shit name i have ever fricking heard, holy shit
sounds like a high rate femboy hooker
The fight scene was animated like utter shit. Poor pacing, poor frame holds, just an utter schizo mess that made the Pain fight from Naruto look well animated by comparison.
Black person it is a fricking musou, it is going to play the exact same as any other character.
who looks best?
Brook, as usual
Franky is actually kino here
Usopp is getting the best head
Why did they fuse Usopp and Sanji into one character?
>sky type
Ruined.
I've never watched, read, or played a single minute of any one piece media. Shit series for shit people.
I wish you could see how fricking stupid you look and sound.
I wish you could see and hear how little I give a frick
It scares me how many anime only zoom-zooms there are who never read the mangas and have no clue what's coming up. It's like the Attack on Titan watchers finding out about the ending five years after the fact or however long it took.
How can you enjoy these series but not have an interest in the author's actual vision? I don't get it.
Animegays are too moronic to read.
If a series has an anime it means the author's original vision was making a popular manga and selling out to whoever offred the most money.
>metallica sold out when they made their first music video u guise
>metallica
In what world aren't they or anyone from the entertainment industry sellouts? Are you some moronic boomer who fell for their marketing team?
Anybody who makes media without the intention of making money is lying to themselves
Hope it's better than Bounce Man and Snake Man, those controlled like total shit
I hope it's a power type because those transformations (Drake, Urouge) were more manageable than the others.
It'll be FUN
>No Calamities, Ryokugyu or Sengoku
>instead we get Film Red horseshit for the 2nd character pack
UTA A SHIT
KOBY A b***h
AND SHANKS IS A GLOWIE
No Sengoku is a crime
Ryokugyu was never going to happen, it's too soon
But the lack of Calamities is odd. Maybe they didn't want to push Wano even more than they already were, but still.
Why does the Netflix show look so terrible? I was expecting it to be bad but frick it looks legit awful.
matches the quality of source, which is also terrible! 🙂
>tattoo'd the wrong colors
its over...
its fine bro looks good as is
Just WHO tattoos something based on fan page coloring instead of wait for the official coloring?
you'd be surprised
You don't get anime tatoos unless you're suffering from some severe moronation.
correction: You don't get tatoos unless you're suffering from some severe moronation.
Where is he now?
>chosen piece
noone likes this gay shit anymore
>I'll take one pound of cope
Of course the Gankertrannies hate it
I loved it but I make western vs eastern animation bait threads on Ganker so I might be biased
Prediction: The inevitable fight between Luffy and Blackbeard will either cement or break the "chosen one" aspect. Which result it will be is uncertain, but it will be the defining moment.
>Musoushit
When is there gonna be a real One Piece fighting game?
Never. A OP fighting game would be dogshit.
It's crazy how One Piece has been going for 3 decades and during all that time all it's done is rip off the tropes and stylings of more inventive shonen anime and has never once done anything impressive on its own.
>gear 5 didn’t break crunchyroll
>didn’t trend on twitter
>pixiv is barren
When will jump just kill one piece? Do they secretly enjoy seeing Oda try to cling to relevancy?
>>didn’t trend on twitter
is barren
Why lie?
Crunchyroll was unusable for at least 40 minutes for me after the episode came out
and it most definitely trended on twitter
>c-crunchyroll was unusable
>-ACK
Why lie?
>i-it didn't happen!!!!
>literally defending crunchyroll
ahahahaha
Man, you sound miserable.
One Piece is popular in Japan but irrelevant in the rest of the world. But Japan is still the main market.
Considering they've sold more copies than Batman they don't need to.
Capeshit comics have been fully dead since the late 90s bruh. The movies create the illusion that DC and Marvel comics are relevant, but in reality they should have all been canceled decades ago.
Still. That's over 60 years of sales that One Piece beat in 20 mainly by their little island. Even if comics have dropped since OP started it's still impressive and reinforces their mentality that they don't need the world wide market.
They don't need it obviously. Japan has always been the main market for otaku content. It's not like Sony and Nintendo that do care about worldwide sales.
The point is that weebs get a wrong impression about One Piece popularity. It still big in Japan, but it never became as popular as Naruto and Dragon Ball in the rest of the world.
>that they don't need the world wide market.
This is fox and the grapes shit. Nips just suck ass at capitalizing on anime & manga demand being at its highest point ever thanks to the internet.
I thought the manga, anime and games are fun. though I wish warriors 4 had more story content like 3. it felt really unfinished and it didn't have that cool island map thing that 3 has where you go whichever way and have to fight made up fights. 🙂
Toon Force Luffy vs Bugs Bunny, who wins in a fight?
Bugs Bunny's ace technique - crossdressing to make the opponent horny - wouldn't work on Luffy
Let's not begin to pretend Luffy approaches Bugs-level toonery with a few funny punches and boingy SFX. Even Lobo or The Mask would still slaughter him as it stands, especially with his clearly-defined water weakness still intact.
Bugs is a level above, he can become the animator and writer of the show, Luffy doesnt come close.
is god 5 coming with those new missions or what?
It damn well better be. Making us wait for those would be the second worst case scenario.
>moron SEABlack person visits island and acts like a moron SEABlack person
>repeat x1000+ chapters
why is One Piece so popular
toonffy
imagine if toon luffy activated on whole cake island with all the cartoon talking trees and flowers
kino
wait a minute i've seen this type of animation before looks forced as frick
Over animated
I'm glad these animators found a new job.
Too bad their skills declined with the years
>PW4 needed more enemy and stage variety, harder missions and add back some of the cut characters from 3
>instead we get more wankno and movie shilling
At least Roger should be fun to play with r-right?
Probably. Depends on where they go with him. I'm a bit worried he'll be too much like Shanks to be worth using.
I'm glad Garp is coming back, at least.
Aren't we getting another Shanks too? Haven't seen the movie, did he even do enough in it to justify a new moveset?
We are and that's another concern.
>did he even do enough
No idea, haven't seen it yet
>shounenspics sharting each other over which spicslop is the best
Why do they say "gear fifth" instead of "gear five"?
Why not fifth gear?
car
You guys don't actually use crunchyroll....right?
he got pink eye
He's just like me for real.
why can the corpse elephant hear luffy's drums of liberation
Zunesha's old enough to know what it sounds like
You've seen the size of his ears?
he has really big ears
>le chosen one god fruit instead of simple yet soulful rubber
This killed one piece
>only beats Enel because he's rubber
>lol he's actually a cartoon person
>as we all know cartoons are immune to lightning
he's still rubber. please stop talking about things you're completely ignorant about
Rubbery cartoon physics does not equal being made of rubber, morons.
and yet he's made of rubber. what's your point?
How did that happen?
he ate a bite of gum-gum
so you don't understand it, just admit it
he's not rubber because of "rubbery cartoon physics", he's rubber because he's made of rubber, nothing changed in this regard.
You are moronic.
Goda actually drew Luffy physically jumping the shark.
>hito hito no mi:model nika
>that sarcastic laughter right after
At least even Oda knows how much of a joke OP has become.
moron
>misses the part where Nika has a rubber like body
HE'S STILL RUBBER YOU DUMBFRICK
HE'S LITERALLY A RUBBERHOSE CARTOON
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE JOKE
The only God is Usopp.
>every single pirate warriors 4 clip is at mega low hp because hero's strength and hero's body got nerfed to shit for cheat death and undying
I fricking hate it.
Same, Leader's Strength and Miraculous strength were also nearly as good as Hero's they just weren't as consistent and shit like quick charge, sniper's wisdom, unique action enhancement, status effect bonuses, combo enhancements, and all the wisdoms were all good enough that even though you had a regular build you could change it up and still not be that bad.
Literally every character in 4 is Undying, cheat death, full force burst enhancement, concentration, and resilience.
I love Punished Kuzan
I like the theory that he froze the stab wound Shiryu gave Garp, and in that shot is freezing his tears. I still wanna believe he's on the Marine side.
So what activated the Nika fruit after 800 years?
My bet is the straw hat.
awakening happens when the body and mind of the user catches up to the powers of the fruit. i other words, what causes it is Luffy himself
Are people still watching One Piece? When will ever ends?
>When will ever ends?
>When will ever ends?
According to Oda, 4-5 years. One Piece is in it's last act right now.
what will gear sixth look like?
alternativelly, reverse gear
DARK luffy >:]
>DARK luffy
Dont skip thriller bark
so now that luffy has toon force form how does that affect his standings in the Death Battle rankings
>KAIDOOO!!! HOW DARE YOU HARM MY FRIENDS!
>WAIT.... WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME?
>IS THIS WHAT RAYLEIGH WAS TALKING ABOUT?
>THE DEMON MONKEY BLOOD...
>MUGIWARA-YA STOP THIS! IF YOU KILL KAIDO YOU BECOME JUST LIKE HIM!
>IT'S TO LATE NOW TORAO...
>GEAR... DEATH.... HAKI MAN!!!!
would you have prefered this instead you fricking idiots
They're hispanics so probably.
>blackbeard: ZEHAHAHA MUGIWARA YOU'LL NEVER DEFEAT MY MYTHICAL INU INU NO MI, MODEL CERBERUS, DARK TREMOR MODE
>luffy: chopper... zoro... everyone else, forgive me... but I'll have to go all out, just this once...
>nami: NOOO LUFFY IF YOU STOP SMILING NOW YOU MIGHT NEVER SMILE AGAIN
>luffy: REVERSE GEAR... ON!
>turns into live-action luffy
>muh edge strawman
try harder
>Anime about believing in your dreams
>Protagonist has a wacky but overall not top tier power.
>New powers are introduced
>OH MY SUPER SPECIAL BORN-ONLY HAKI THAT MAKES MOBS FAINT.
>OH MY LEGENDARY REALITY-BENDING SUPER POWER THAT IS SSSS-TIER.
>OH MY DESTINED FUTURE TO LIBERATE THE WORLD AS JOYBOY
Lmao, One piece went from "you can achieve your dreams if never give up and work hard towards your goal" to "you can only succeed if you are lucky and you were born with a special destiny awaiting you".
Luffy literally cannot lose at this point, he is the D (and joyboy) destined to destroy the WG and liberate the world.
Pity, blackbeard seemed like an interesting antagonist.
I don't understand this line of thinking honestly, he still had to work his ass off to awaken the fruit and have the imagination to actually utilise it.
Because they're non-fans shitposting.
did he? the fruit does its own thing and sort of mind controls the user
Bro, if you care this much just read the fricking series. Everything you say is fricking wrong.
If the fruit mind controls the user then why didn't it just automatically give him the coordinates to where the one piece is, why did it make him do all this side shit instead of booking it to Raftel?
the fruit does not know where it is
Work hard?
He awakened because of deus ex machina.
Kaido won fair and square, then because of FATE luffy suddenly got godly superpowers.
There is no reason for Luffy to awaken at that point other than giving him another chance to fight kaido after being defeated.
>t.
So what does gear 5 do? Turn everything into toon?
gives him more strength and resilience, while allowing him to manipulate his own body more freely in addition to turning things he touches into rubber
From what I can tell is just like Doffy's (or any paramecia) Awakened state, it turns everything into whatever the user's properties are, so rubber.
I guess Oda just turned everything wacky and over the top to help give more that idea of "Nika the warrior that gave smiles to peoples faces", a power so moronic that you can't help but laugh.
Wish awakenings for Kidd and Law are added to the game.
The amount of angry dragonball parasites in this thread is hilarious
>boat dbz fanboy mad at the OG shonen
>Little more than half a second on screen
I really want to slap the director, he basically fumbled the entire latter half of the episode except the part about Luffy grabbing Kaidou and going SO LONG GAY BOWSER on him, which is merely okay
I think they really just needed to use a little less cartoon sound effects but also a wider variety of them, especially the one they spammed while luffy was throwing kaido, didn't fit at all
also I just realized that might be an issue if every single attack gear 5 does in op4 has a wacky sound effect, that'd be fricking annoying after a while
>Naruto 3.0 got in before Juan Piss
It's over... the west doesn't care about the greatest manga in the world...
>3.0
4
AoT
MHA
JJK
More like the west fears the greatest manga/anime in the world, remember americans fear sexy women, you'll never see this in Fortnite and thats good since they'd just censor them
>More like the west fears the greatest manga/anime in the world
Watch more anime also
>one piece women
>sexy
Holy frick have a nice day
Shit taste, One Piece artstyle mogs all Hentai
ToT
why is Ganker shitting the bed so much, are we getting ddos'ed
>Luffy's wish was to be free
>becomes a prisoner of fate
bros...
my biggest gripe with luffy right now isn't that his fruit is of a rubber man instead of just rubber, but that just rubber is everything he's ever shown and his devil fruit had nothing to hide up until now.
I mean, has luffy done anything up until this fight that couldn't be explained by him just being rubber like he was supposed to be?
>if you think about it a lot of his older abilities and transformations don't make realistic sense
yeah but it made sense in the reality of the show. no character ever questioned this before because nothing he did was questionable in the reality of the series.
>no character ever questioned this before because nothing he did was questionable in the reality of the series.
They did, for example it was said that the homing cobra attack was impossible to pull off with how rubber works
oh shit I forgot about that. did it happen anywhere else or was it just this instance?
>if Luffy's fruit stayed a Paramacia and the whole Nika stuff was cut people wouldn't question it
this one I have to agree with, his new powers aren't that outrageous compared to what he's been pulling up until now.
He literally just made that up. You're completely correct that G5 could've been explained has a powerful use of the gomu gomu
>He literally just made that up
did he? I remember something like that happening but honestly my memory is fuzzy at best, so I'm not sure about the details.
Don't listen to that fricking moron, here from the wiki.
>Python (大蛇, Paison?, literally meaning "Great Snake/Serpent"): Using a combination of Busoshoku Haki and his rubber body, Luffy is now able to redirect his punches during an attack instead of retracting it back, allowing himself to bypass the necessary build-up time between attacks, making his attacks into semi-homing attacks.[32] Whilst in Boundman form the attack can continue stretching without losing momentum; in his Snakeman form, the attack goes a step further by continuously accelerating until Luffy retracts it.[33] However, Kaidou noted that this ability to bend the trajectory of attacks should not be possible given the innate nature of rubber.[10] The kanji for this attack can be read as "Orochi", likely nodding to the famed Yamato-no-Orochi.
Nah, if Luffy's fruit stayed a Paramacia and the whole Nika stuff was cut people wouldn't question it. I think Oda made the fruit a Zoan for simple reasons
>He wanted Luffy to change appearance in gear 5 and wanted to stick with zoan = different form rule
>He wanted to introduce Luffy's fruit being "sentient" enough to evade the WG for centuries and decided to keep Zoans as the only fruits with inner wills (although I think Blackbeard said that the Darkness fruit "chose" him as some point so maybe there's more to it)
People have been speculating since the model Nika reveal that Teach has also got a mythical zoan, one that would also cover why he can have multiple powers.
First guesses were generally model Cerberus, but with the release of Film Red and Tot Musica's later forms also having Blackbeard's three skull design it's also a potential contender.
That would still leave the oddity of him not needing to sleep even back in Roger's era, though.
This thread has devolved into Youtube comments level discussion.
One Piece fans shat on this
Just to many years laters be praising this???????
if you can't tell the difference between these two, then you're helpless
Yeah, the Naruto fight is better and didn't waste my time with flashbacks, forced zoom ins and extensive content that spans 5 episodes for the sake of making it longer.
why are they even called devil fruits
Government brainwashing, probably.
Because they're like making a deal with the devil. You get a power up but lose the ability to swim
I didn't even google this, it's just that fricking obvious anon tard
you can't stop me from posting questions
?t=88
I can't even tell what's going on near the end.
>we want the Naruto audience
One Piece is the rare exception. It makes fun of trannies and doesn't really have a lot of gay character design that turns white boys gay (unlike Naruto or Final Fantasy for example)
The Wano arc had two (dos) characters that made trannies scream from the rooftops.
Yamato and who else? I don't remember troons freaking out over Kiku, it's mostly Yamato they're salivating over cause she's actually popular and they're desperate for acceptance.
>I don't remember troons freaking out over Kiku
Then you must have Alzheimer's.
More likely you're just exaggerating. Kiku got outed as a troony and no one gave a shit except a few fetishists on Ganker. Yamato called herself a man and trannies haven't shut the frick up about it ever since.
>Yamato called herself a man and trannies haven't shut the frick up about it ever since
Is that why you're posting about it right now?
>btfo
>start schizoposting
I accept your concession and deny your (You).
>Yamato called herself a man and trannies haven't shut the frick up about it ever since.
Why would they be upset about that?
Having actual trannies in your show doesn't mean you're against them.
Naruto however had this.
That is a penis and balls
So do many "females" in One Piece.
Except it literally has a trans samurai character that everybody treats like they're normal. (Kiku).
God, I hate that fricking character the Sanji selfinserter spams him every fricking day, it killed the threads for me more than Bridget spam did for GG threads
I exorcised myself from /opg/ a long time ago. It was fun to post in it when Yamato got denied from the SHs, but now it's just too much waifuhomosexualry going on.
JPs are shitting on it hard. Pacing is apparently terrible for most of the episode.
>anime's pacing is terrible
>Oda has gone senile and the manga's art is absolute dumpster now
It's fricking over wanpissisters. WCI was the last good arc
I still cant believe Oda will forever misuse all those big mom pirates with soulful designs
>does nothing
>appears again
>does nothing
Meanwhile wano boring samurais got more scenes. Wholecake island had way more potential
You dont understand anon, oden's sumarai were very important to the plot because..
the entire middle focuses on oden's daughter and orochi talking and then orochi get's burned to death, it's weird
Oden's son*
Don't misgender him
no the blue haired girl
>apparently
Pacing hasn't been good in One Piece for literal decades. Interrupting the Gear 5 reveal (which was already stalling for time with the usual Toei "zoom in individually on everyone's reaction to every event as they gasp in shock for seconds on end") just to focus on prostitutehori being a prostitute was fricking jarring. So was them replaying the atrocious CGI scene of Kaido attacking the live floor from last episode.
Yeah, imagine punching harder but with toon effects. So epic
one piece homies are kookily
>Naruto's big fight
>amazing animation
>superb ost
>god tier choreography
>Luffy's fight
?t=181
>terrible animation to the point you can't understand shit
>face close ins to hide the terrible animation
>public domain clown noises that go along with a garbage symphonic OST they've been using since early Wano
OHOHOH AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH WAN PISS BROS WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS
>boruto anime still using naruto and sasuke as a crutch
>going so far to put boruto in season 1 naruto jacket
jesus christ
This fight here is also better than the atrocity we saw with Gear 5
>even more eye magic
but yeah that does look better then this first showing of gear 5 overall, not because gear 5 is cartoony but because it wasn't done great
The previous battles leading up to Gear 5 have been beautiful and this isn't even the actual fight, it's just the introduction to Gear 5. The next episode is where the real shit will occur.
>The previous battles leading up to Gear 5 have been beautiful
I will dare you to post one that you think it looks good.
Find me a fight in One Piece as clean as this
Or even this
>Juan Piss
>Better than Boruto
Cook yourselves in piss, Juan Piss drinkers.
Does Oda even draw the manga anymore? All you ever hear about with these long running weekly manga is how grueling it is to do. I find it hard to believe that he's still able to do this and wants to do it. He must just be storyboarding and supervising a team of assistants right?
He draws, that's why he got laser eye surgery and took a month break
>Sanji gets retconned from a cool cook trained by a former killer pirate into being a flawed ninja warlord, just to discover that he wasn't flawed at all
>Luffy fruit gets retconned into being the chosen one fruit, making all joy boy and roger parallelism moronic since anyways he's already a god
Now I'm thankful that Zoro doesn't have any stupid background lore.
>Zoro doesn't have any stupid background lore
WAKE UP MOTHERFRICKER
Zoro's grand-uncle was the Daimyo of Ringo, his sister and a bunch of other Wano samurai fled to the East Blue. She married a literal who and then their son Roronoa Pinzoro married a mountain bandit named Terra and they had Zoro.
They need to add bikinis with heels and lewd costumes.
this would've been much better if they could've released 1071 and 1072 today as a double feature
Maybe, from the preview 1072 seems like it's not animated by an epileptic man currently having a caffeine-induced seizure while drawing on the backseat of a runaway dirt buggy.
despite being gear 5's anime debut they shoved the actual fight in the last 10 minutes, they tried cramming so many toon gags into every frame they forgot to make it look good. I hope you're right about the next episode
I get they were going for toony but it felt TOO animated
The preview for next week looked better
Or, heaven forbid, animate more than one chapter per episode
man I miss watching stick figure animations on newgrounds unironically
You can still watch them
needs more people shaped holes in the ground
02/10
>Ace got sodomized by Yamamoto
Why does Oda hate Aceheads
>Luffy goes through literal hell to save Ace
>Whitebeard loses dear men and his own life to secure Ace a future
>All thrown away because Ace can't handle the bantz
Ace deserves to die again
>bantz
That's actually the funniest part about it, it honestly looks like that Sakazuki wasn't actively taunting him but just thinking aloud. Akainu was being a salty frick over losing the moral victory yet the fricking idiot firehead went back in because he overheard monologuing to the point where even Akainu was surprised at the idiocy.
I've been watching One Piece and I'm up to the fight with Crocodile in Alabasta, I've really liked it (although I much preferred the All Blue to the Grand line so far) but is it even worth continuing? I haven't seen everything that's happened since I obviously avoid spoilers and don't go looking for stuff about One Piece, but I still know Luffy is now the reincarnation of some God called Joy Boy or some shit, and sounds gay as frick.
Keep going until time skip, its loses some of the appeal into water 7 but its made up for by great action sequences and good character moments. Getting into the Summit War is where you want to start considering dropping it.
>Luffy is now the reincarnation of some God called Joy Boy or some shit
He's not.
How you are Black folk this dense?
They get their info from anime twitter
Why couldn't they just do something like this?
Because Luffy and Kaido aren't this similar in size
>that controlled but brutal beat down
Unironically kino
Damn, even that corkscrew punch is more imaginative than "get big and punch Kaido with big fist to win"
>rasengan
its called gum-gum rifle
>all the haters ITT
Shouldn't you be watching Onimai instead?
Inb4 the crew runs into someone using the actual Nika fruit and it turns out Luffy does just have the rubber fruit.
I fricking hope so but even if it is a fake out oda wastes so much time now it'll be months if not a year before we see it
I want to play Princess Vivian.
>Absalom of D Graveyard
>Ashura D Oji
>Arlong D Saw
>Basil D Magician Hawkins
>Buggy D (star) Clown
>Bartolomeo D Cannibal
>Go D Ussop
>Bepo D Polar Bear
>Bon Clay D Wild
>Bellamy D Hyena
>Brook D Soul King
>Karoo D Uck
>Caesar D Clown
>Gastino D Gangster
>Cedar D Pharmacist
>Capone D Gang Bege
>Camie D Fish
>Caven D Ish
>Chadros Brownbeer D Higelyges
>Croco D Ile
>Donquixote D Oflamingo
>D Jango
>Kai D O
>Edwar D Newgate
>Kyros D Nutcracker
>Eustass D Kid
>Foxy D Silver Fox
>Gold Ro D Ger
>Derringer D homosexual
>Sanji D homosexual
>D octor Hiriluk
>Koushirou D Gorosei
>Thousan D Sunny
>Gin D Man-Demon
>Jimbei [preferred translation] of D Sea
>Monkey D. D. Ragon
>Ma D. Monk Urouge
>Vander D. Ecken
>Im D Mother of Luffy
>Wa D O'ichi Monji
>Kozukio D En
>Rocks D. Xebec
>Hina D Black Cage
>Bonney D Glutton
>Kuro D Hundred Plans
>Lor D of the Coast / Lord of D Coast
>Blackbeer D Teach / Blackbeer D Marshall
>Pan D A Man
>Pan D A Woman
>Pe D Ro
>Shanks D Royal / Shanks D Redhair / Shanks D Red Poneglyph
>X D Rake
>Yamato D. Stoneworker
etc
Just how far does the shitpost by Oda go?
>I took that arm, Shanks, as a promise to the future!
>This world belongs to the next generation, if they have the strength to keep it
ENTER CHOSEN PIECE!
>Luffy
Reincarnation of Joyboy, son of the most wanted man and grandson of the hero of the marines!
>Zoro
Super special Wano noble descendant and the reincarnation of Ryuma
>Sanji
A Lunarian and the scientifically enhanced son of a scientist!
>Yamato
Daughter of the strongest being
>Franky
Forgotten son of Vegapunk
>Nami
Descendant of royal concubines
>Robin
Some Indiana Jones-tier ancestry
>Jinbe
Descendant of the fattest fishmen.
>Brook
Son of a Charles Manson-tier cultist musician.
Remember the words of Gold D. Roger?
>My wealth and treasures? If you are CHOSEN, I'll let you have it. Look for it, I left all of it at that place! BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE CHOSEN!
>Yamato
???
she's not crew
Descendant of the fattest fishmen.
thats pretty good anon hahahaha
>Son of a Charles Manson-tier cultist musician
...Charles Manson wasn't a musician, anon. If you were going to name a virtuosic musician with a cult following you really should've named Paganini.
>missed a whole One Piece thread again
Damn it. But I'm still here to tell you that Robin is best girl and the ideal wife. And if you hate Nika, you're a no-fun homosexual.