Roommate is getting rid of some stuff and gave me this. Haven’t played Pokemon since the GameBoy. Any team suggestions? Any recommendations/tips would be appreciated. I want to 100% complete this but I don’t know what that requires.
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Peak pokemon.
FPBP
an extremely boring game where you spend 90% of it scrolling through the bag to use repels to turn the game into a walking sim
hi yawngay!
reminds me of the time some moron posted webms of scrolling through the bag on Ganker and /vp/ without using the fricking wheel lmao
>some moron posted webms of scrolling through the bag on Ganker and /vp/ without using the fricking wheel
it’s the same guy
>dude just awkwardly pull out your stylus to scroll through the dogshit UI lmao
or I could just play a better game that isn't programmed like shit
>Hoenntard thinking her game isn't shit too
Kek!
>game freak
>game that isn't programmed like shit
alright who's gonna tell her
I might be misremembering this, but I think if you press Select as if you're about to move the position of an item in the bag, it scrolls way fricking faster than even the wheel, then just press B when you get where you wanted to go so you don't actually move the item. Not an excuse since players shouldn't have to use workarounds like that, but not really a huge criticism if there's an easy way around it.
Taking this approach is always the best, idk why people wanna spoil an easy game for themselves when half of the fun is in the discovery.
Trade evos should be encouraged but not required. Someone shouldn't be restricted from even having a Machamp because they're playing a near 15 year old game on a now unsupported system. I know at least at some point you could do some DNS frickery or something to connect with other players, but even then, that's an extra hoop that the player has to go through that requires them messing with things that they almost certainly don't actually understand. Version exclusives as they exist are also just an obvious cheap marketing plot; lock the other version's exclusives in the post-game if you really want the story to "feel" different, there's no good reason to lock them out completely unless you're trying to encourage the consumer to buy multiple systems and multiple games to efficiently complete the dex.
I prefer to know what to look for rather than potentially skipping it so I get it.
It's not like any of it's gonna "go away," and if you get through the game wishing you had picked up a certain mon, you can start over.
Starting over is quite the overreaction.
if you want to 100% platinum you should have another DS anyway
I don't think select is faster than the ball
Also trading on emulator is easy, but i agree that trade evos didn't age well, especially those without an item since you pretty much have to restrict yourself to not get for example level 16 Alakazam which is a cheat code in every region
bro your balls
You can use the D-Pad still you dumb ass
I didn't know yawBlack person also browsed Ganker but i guess it makes sense since he's a palhomosexual
Yeah, I've seen him there a couple times even before Palworld became a thing. Kinda shocked me; thought he'd just be a local, but no.
>using the touchscreen
The wheel is shit because it's still laggy. You need to hit Select to move an item and then use the wheel to actually make it move faster, which is a moronic thing to have to do every single time. Maybe if the game didn't introduce a billion worthless items like the Lagging Tail and Sticky Barb it'd be quicker to navigate.
>You need to hit Select to move an item and then use the wheel to actually make it move faster
no, just spin the fricking wheel dude
But enough about XY.
SPBP
You do know that you can press select button and arrange the items as you like, don't you, anon?
>Any team suggestions?
Spritomb, Heracross, Snorlax, Milotic, Honchkrow, Manaphy
>I want to 100% complete this but I don’t know what that requires.
All fashion case accessories
1 of each berry
All underground base goods
Master rank at the contests
All 5 gold prints from the battle frontier
Living dex
1 of each in-game ribbon one 1 pokemon
All poketch apps
Black trainer card
> Spritomb, Heracross, Snorlax, Milotic, Honchkrow, Manaphy
Lol excellent bait
>What am I in for?
the best way to play Sinnoh
Shining Pearl is better
no it isn’t
Platinum > DP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BDSP
We know that you're one person buddy
Unlike basically all the other remakes the diamond and pearl remakes did literally nothing expect make the aesthetic trash sadly, so, no. Honestly those remakes completely destroyed any hope i had for the pokemon company. Biggest waste of opportunity ever.
Just play the game bro, look stuff up when you're done exploring and shit yourself.
"and shit yourself" came out wrong but actually yeah, shit yourself
Plug it in while playing dream radar for a free giratina
>100% a legitimate copy of a game that requires both local trading and which has a dead online
lol
just emulate/play on a flashcart so you can enable trade evolution by level and also get all version exclusives in one game
and so you can use speed up to get past the shitty as frick battle UI.
>trade evolution by level and also get all version exclusives in one game
soulless
All 3 starters are really fricking good, there’s no “wrong” or bad choice out of them. Catch a Bidoof, its evolution Bibarel can learn every HM except for Fly and Defog (because it doesn’t have wings). Moves are now either physical or special based on the attack itself rather than the type (Punch, Claw, Kick moves are physical, Beam, Pulse, Wave moves are special). Lots of older Pokémon got new evolutions making them either even stronger or actually usable (Magneton, Togetic, Sneasel, Piloswine, Gligar, Yanma, and others). If you want to complete the Pokédex in full or at least get some trade evolutions, unless you know someone irl also with a DS and a Gen 4 game, look into Wiimmfi, Kaeru WFC, and Poké Classic Network to basically restore online functionality in the game, Wi-Fi events included.
> All 3 starters are really fricking good
lolno
> there’s no “wrong” or bad choice out of them.
wrong choice: not releasing them as soon as you get another pokemon
A pretty dang good game
For 100%, look into the pokeclassic DNS stuff. It lets you access events, gts and other online features, including wifi trades between your copy and an emulated ROM. This is probably the fastest way to get trade evolutions.
If you don't want to trade with yourself, the Gen 4 GTS is surprisingly active for an unofficial server on an old game. I did several trades in my HG run a few weeks ago, they took a few hours at most.
If it's not against your rules, you can use this to see the Feebas and Munchlax spots for your save through Pkhex, since they are a b***h to find otherwise.
>the Gen 4 GTS is surprisingly active for an unofficial server on an old game
Is it full of hacked mons like it was back then?
Honestly I don't know because I don't really care about hacks, I only used it to get version exclusives like Vulpix and Meowth and the ones I got are probably legit
I'm starting a new Platinum playthrough since people keep recommending this game. I haven't played DPPt before. I hope it's good!
this smells like yawnchad
what are you gonna do, solo the game with empoleon and make a .gif of it?
If it's him he's just gonna flood this thread with progress pics saying stuff like "Wait, this was supposed to be hard?" because god forbid we have a regular, sane gen 4 thread without him derailing it
If it's just an innocent anon, then disregard what I said
Who's yawnchad? I'm having fun, so far I caught a Starly and Shinx!
get a bidoof and load your HMs onto it
>he's already catching the npc team
oh no no no sinnohsisters I thought our game had good pokemon distribution and the detractors were wrong?
god forbids anon catches early game mons in the early game
It's yawngay playing with other trolls replying, anon. Don't overthink it
Yeah i thought it was a normal person at first, i figured when i saw the rest.
Anyway personally i'm playing emerald, just beat Winona.
One thing i've noticed is that Emerald seems to level you higher than RS, probably due to all the double battles they added. This makes some literalwho fights in the midgame pretty underleveled, kind of like in GSC
posts are all more than a minute apart, dude is talking to himself
I beat the first gym leader!
Oh boy.
rip this thread
>the thread is going to die because someone decided to actually start playing the game people are claiming is the peak
really makes you think....
Frick this board and frick you all Black folk, you know who you are. Ban everything about gen 4 and 5 or just nuke it off the site, it's unusable either way
lmfao shut the frick up
It's one guy
horrible false-flag, itoddler.
you will never be yawngay
>y-yawngay!!!
Go on, try to disprove his arguments. You have been trying for years, maybe this will be the time!
I beat the first Team Galactic admin!
Lmaooooooo you also just killed at least one DSgay
Please go on this is so fricking funny, continue exposing their shit games for what they are!
gj
Throw it in the garbage where it belongs. Do you really want to play it after seeing what it really is?
This is what unmedicated personality disorders look like
I beat the second gym leader!
>oh no no no sinnohsisters I thought our game had good pokemon distribution and the detractors were wrong?
Yes.
No (You) for you btw.
>honey tree pokes
>trade evo pokes
>glaceon, mean u held the eevee until the 7th gym
>rotom formes meaning u hacked the event item in
>KANTOOO
Hmmmmmmm
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE HONEY TREES AND TRADES BECAUSE...YOU JUST CAN'T OK?
tree pokes
Noooo you can't engage with the game mechanics
evo pokes
Noooo you can't have friends
, mean u held the eevee until the 7th gym
Noooo you can't use pokemon you like
formes meaning u hacked the event item in
sure
Noooo don't use pokemon from the kanto™ region
Hmmmmmmm
tree pokes
Combee isn't that uncommon and you can soft reset its gender when you encounter it.
evo pokes
I do own a second DS, also it's easy to use the pokemon randomizer to create a rom where trade evos can evolve without trading.
, mean u held the eevee until the 7th gym
I had a few mons in rotation, the VS Seeker makes grinding very easy and I stole Lucky Eggs off Chanseys with a Thief Yanma. Platinum's teambuilding is very underrated.
formes meaning u hacked the event item in
The mystery gift stuff are all still available with the DNS Exploit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wiimmfi/comments/fugd8l/dns_gen_iv_v_events_list_inside/
Well yes, Golem was easy to slap on in Pearl and I started finding Golduck really cool around this time.
>the second team
Hello, based department?
I love how you had both magmortar and electivire
kino teams
None of these things are bad, the event could be obtained legitimately at the time
>Arbitrary restrictions
>game arbitrarily restricts me from catching vespuquen because it forces me to wait hours for no reason
>game rewards people for using its mechanics
>this is le bad because you can't have the rewards without using the mechanics
you sound like a vgcheater kek
Skill issue
I beat another Galactic Admin!
Damn playing like a complete moron sure shows us, how EVER shall we recover from this?
What am I doing wrong? I seem to be doing well so far.
dont you already have le epic level 90 infernape screenshot you spam?
Huh? I have no clue what you're talking about. This is the first time I'm playing this game.
Anyway, I reached Fantina!
*yawn*
cute ghost. platinum's biggest flaw is removing her from the mon pool
good job! proud of you yawnie
>seething so hard he rushed and posted the wrong image
kek
>seething at a post he agrees with
no but you are seething at the replies in this thread which is why you used that image.
>no but you are [FANFIC]
oh no yawnbros... not like this
I love sinnoh
>Platinum is supposedly slow
>Anon is already at Fantina
Hmm anti-DPPT troons I think you have some explaining to do here.
I’ll give you some actual answers here
>base game -> Champion
Team doesn’t really matter, just use what you find to be cool and start working on your pokedex by catching everything you see
>100%
Look into the trainer card stars, they’ll be what you need for 100% completion.
Hall of Fame
Easiest one, completed just by playing the game
rank in contests
Should be doable, just have to learn how contests work
>>100 streak in battle tower
Again, should be doable, just try to find good team compositions on something like smogon forums
flag in underground
Not 100% sure about this one, but I think you need another ds and another copy of one of the sinnoh games. You might be able to do this with a used DS Phat and a Japanese copy of diamond or pearl for really cheap
dex
Again, you’ll need another ds for trades, but I think you need hgss and even gen 3 games (?) for the regis and dual cartridge exclusives which are expensive. Probably the most expensive/time consuming
Good luck
I’d also recommend trying out the rest of the battle frontier and looking for any shinies that interest you with the pokeradar. Mythical events are also still possible to obtain through certain methods, although they require a decent understanding of the ds hardware
this is b***h tier. if you don’t collect all berries, decorations, gold prints, and contest accessories u didn’t beat the game
>someone starts playing the game
>thread begins to have a meltdown because they know they can't just vaguely claim the game is good anymore
kek
What do you mean, the game is still good
>claim that Platinum has bad teambuilding has been debunked
>claim that Platinum is slow has been debunked
Thread's been pretty good for Platinum actually.
someone debunked having to pointlessly wait 6 hours for pokemon?
Yes actually. One guy is showing it's optional, the other showed getting rarer mons isn't too bad. Besides is it really so hard to check something every 6 hours? People are up for about 12 and more.
>y-you don't have to use the shitty tedious mechanic!
That isn't really a debunking, you're basically just admitting it's shit
>Besides is it really so hard to check something every 6 hours?
If it's not hard then why add a 6 hour wait time?
>That isn't really a debunking, you're basically just admitting it's shit
When? If you don't like don't use it. I like and I'll use it. Everybody wins.
>If it's not hard then why add a 6 hour wait time?
Immersion, the honey must waft for a while to attract something from far away.
>If you don't like don't use it.
The issue isn't that I don't like it. The issue is that the mechanic is bad. Not using the mechanic doesn't make the bad mechanic stop existing.
>Immersion
Getting reminded that it's a poorly designed shitty game and I need to literally stop playing if I want to get this Pokemon before I continue isn't immersive.
>Not using the mechanic doesn't make the bad mechanic stop existing.
Yeah, it does, it's no longer bothering you.
>I need to literally stop playing
Your game doesn't stop working when you use a honey tree.
>Yeah, it does,
No it doesn't. The mechanic is still there.
>Your game doesn't stop working when you use a honey tree
But I do need to wait for the honey tree to generate the Pokemon because that's how the game works. And if I want to add the Pokemon to my team before I continue to progressing I do need to stop playing.
So you hate gen 3?
We're talking about Gen 4. I don't give a frick about what Gen 3 is doing.
Answer the question homosexual
>take my shitty bait so I can deflect and change the subject because I can't actually defend gen 4
nah
So I guess you also hate gen 3, why are you here then?
>So I guess you [FANFIC]
I guess you've conceded the mechanic in gen 4 is shit then. So much for debunking it.
I never said it's shit, but you hate time based mechanics, so it's pretty obvious you hate gen 3
>I never said it's shit
And yet you can't prove it's not shit since you need to keep trying to change the subject. Pretty sad tbh.
I don't have to prove anything, just because you don't like them don't make them shit
>just because you don't like them don't make them shit
You're right. Me liking them has no relevance to anything. The mechanics are shit because they're shit on their own.
Why?
Because it makes the player wait hours for no reason.
You don't have to wait hours, you can just play and come back later
>You don't have to wait hours, you can just wait hours
So whats wrong with that?
>So whats wrong with the game pointlessly wasting your time?
put down the honey b4 you go to bed =)
>And if I want to add the Pokemon to my team before I continue to progressing I do need to stop playing.
Platinum has fantastic VS Seeker grinding though.
> The issue isn't that I don't like it. The issue is that the mechanic is bad
But it isn’t? It’s a great mechanic
this homie's in this thread and the bw2 thread
he always is
>tfw yawnkek didn't finish her playthrough
>he got so bored of the game he stopped playing
platinumsisters...not like this...
how is he a moronic 6 year old?
It's not that he is a moronic 6 year old (though it wouldn't surprise me if he was), it's that he plays the game like a moronic 6 year old.
>it's that he plays the game like a moronic 6 year old
how?
he didn't autistically wait 6 hours for a honey tree to generate a shitmon
I'll put it in a way you can understand.
But this falls apart when you realize that the second guy beats the game much faster
>Who cares if it won't work
That will never happen, since his level is so much higher
>Sure people keep telling me to use something else
Why should he? He can beat the game with only one Pokemon, so why use more? Work smarter, not harder.
>but raising more pokemon is fun!
How? You are literally gimping yourself for no reason than to see a different sprite perform a move, it sure sounds moronic.
If your game is only good when you purposefully play in a suboptimal way, then maybe it isn't good at all. I know it's hard to accept, but it's a fact.
Funny how none of you tried to counter this. It's almost as if you can't, because your opinions are only based on nostalgia rather than objective facts
Still waiting
>But this falls apart when you realize that the second guy beats the game much faster
He most likely won't easily beat the league
>He most likely won't easily beat the league
How? He's gonna probably have an Infernape in the 70s. At most he'll need some revives
>He's gonna probably have an Infernape in the 70s
That's hardly overleveled for the league
>At most he'll need some revives
That's implying he can actually win a battle once his Infernape faints, which he can't.
>That's implying he can actually win a battle once his Infernape faints, which he can't.
Send in HM slave, use max revive, switch Infernape back in when they kill your slave. Sounds simple enough.
>Unironically using items in battle
LMAO yeah whatever homosexual. For what it's worth i do agree that the games giving you this possibility without restricting it is very stupid, sadly just like switch mode it's never going away.
Why wouldn't you do something the game allows you to and is featured in every JRPG?
>I need to prepare for the league, so I don't want to dump any excess exp into my starter
That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read. If you "dumped excess exp" into your starter you would actually beat the league much faster than by autistically mashing a on victory road for hours on end
>the person who's objectively worse at the game and has a worse team is somehow the smart one
strange cope but ok
This anon gets it. This "yawngay" boogeyman (see: reasonable people) has actually figured how the game works, unlike everyone else
It's crazy how delusional fans of gen 4/5 are, like the pokemon equivalent of Dunning-Kruger effect
So you should think the complaints that Platinum is slow and has poor team diversity don't make any sense then.
It is still slow. HP bars and attack animations take forever, just like using HMs and repels Low encounter diversity is still a problem, since encountering the same things over and over feels half-assed
>It is still slow
But anon got to the third gym in one sitting, that doesn't sound slow at all.
>just like using HMs
But since the objectively correct way is to just use the starter then you should have plenty of space for HM users.
>Low encounter diversity is still a problem
But you aren't catching much of anything else so how could encounter diversity be an issue?
>since encountering the same things over and over feels half-assed
But as described here
all diversity is good for is seeing a different sprite on the screen, sounds like a personal problem to me.
Anon played with 2x speed or more to prove how easy this game is
Yes, I have multiple HM users, but selecting it from the menu takes forever
Why wouldn't i be catching much of anything? Am I forced to use everything I catch
Would you play a Mario game where there are only goombas as enemies? That would get boring real fast, wouldn't it?
It's ridiculous how you actually thought those were good arguments
>Anon [HEADCANON]
>Yes, I have multiple HM users, but selecting it from the menu takes forever
Most HMs trigger from interacting with the environment and it takes a few seconds to go into your menu.
>Why wouldn't i be catching much of anything?
Because they're just box filler with this play style.
>Would you play a Mario game where there are only goombas as enemies? That would get boring real fast, wouldn't it?
According to Anon the only purpose pokemon serve in games is to have different sprites on screen so it's all the same either way.
>
It is when you use them in battle. The only thing you need to win in Pokemon is press A, it doesn't matter what sprite the attack is coming from, yes.
This changes when you actually catch Pokemon for a reason, like using a particular HM or catching legendaries
Sad that full team users will never know how it feels when all of your pokemon actually have a purpose
>This changes when you actually catch Pokemon for a reason, like using a particular HM or catching legendaries
I think you vastly overestimate how much Pokemon need to catch with a playstyle like this.
>>Anon [HEADCANON]
Unlike you, I know what that anon is doing. He's been doing it for years to prove both how shitty and easy Gen 4 and 5 are (since their fans pretend them to actually be hard. Shocker: if you don't play like a moron they are very easy!) and how easily triggered their fans are, just like you right now
If only you were able to concede that he is right and stopped posting about how "great" and "engaging" gen 4 and 5 are, maybe he would stop doing this.
But his playthroughs debunk the biggest complaints about Platinum, seems like he's doing Platinum a favor to me.
Also he does the same thing to Emerald completely unprovoked despite claiming his favorites are RB, Emerald, and XY (see I know who he is too) so it seems to me fandoms aren't the issue here.
>his playthroughs debunk the biggest complaints about Platinum
How? He is playing on sped up
So? It still would not have taken him long to get there.
>all diversity is good for is seeing a different sprite on the screen
It is when you use them in battle. The only thing you need to win in Pokemon is press A, it doesn't matter what sprite the attack is coming from, yes.
This changes when you actually catch Pokemon for a reason, like using a particular HM or catching legendaries
Sad that full team users will never know how it feels when all of your pokemon actually have a purpose
>This "yawngay" boogeyman (see: reasonable people)
If you're not yawngay you should lurk more
I don't care if he is one or 100 people. What matters is that "he" is right, and no use of childish nicknames like "yawngay" will change that.
The only reason he still posts on here is because he knows how easy it is to throw you people in a mad rage just by showing some simple facts
Stop praising games based on faulty premises and maybe he'll go away, have you considered that?
No, the reason why "he" (you) is here is due to being a mentally ill schizo convinced of making people mad by shitposting, when in reality he's the laughing stock of the whole board. The amount of time you spend here, on a board dedicated to a franchise you don't even like, just fishing for replies is hilarious bro, you should get help
He is making people mad, yes. You sound really mad, as do all the other apologists. Also I'm not him, you just can't fathom the idea of multiple people disagreeing with you. Sounds pretty mentally ill to me.
The only one being mad here is you, spamming about how there was a "melltdown" when you posted your pictures when nobody gave a shit.
I mean, the fact that you couldn't get past Fantina (and couldn't get past the last few Emerald gym leaders either) is telling enough.
I didn't post any pictures. Stop accusing me of being that anon, I just agree with him because he presents solid evidence.
>Stop praising games based on faulty premises and maybe he'll go away,
Why did he bomb the Emerald thread then when it's one of his favorite games?
>Hmmm...I could put on a jacket to walk home through this snowstorm, but where's the fun in that? I'm gonna walk there naked, it's so challenging and rewarding!
It's funny how you try to portray yourselves as the smart one, but only highlight your moronation in the process. Just accept it, you are wrong, you suck at this game. You lost this argument years ago, why is it so hard to accept it?
You could free yourself and play a decent game like SV, instead you choose to cling to your rose tinted childhood
>You could free yourself and play a decent game like SV
I don't know Palworldgays really tore that game a new butthole. None of you ever try to refute them either and only care about gen 4/5 fans so I guess they're right.
Why compare Palworld to Pokemon SV?
In the realm of Pokemon, SV is objectively the best, unparalleled in freedom and actual difficulty, especially with the DLC
The forced exp share you like to complain so much about also encourages you to use multiple pokemon, since they all gain exp equally and you're not intentionally gimping yourself by wasting exp on a lower level mon
>you should grow up and stop playing gens 4 and 5 you heckin chud! Play a good game!
>ok, I will play Palworld.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!
Grim.
Where did I say that you shouldn't play Palworld? Are you just making shit up because you have no argument?
>Where did I say that you shouldn't play Palworld?
When you tried to say I was wrong for comparing two monster catching games since Palworld is vastly superior.
Then go play Palworld, I agree it's superior, but since we were talking about Pokemon...
>I agree it's superior
Why did you try to shill me a dead game like SV then?
>but since we were talking about Pokemon...
Didn't stop me, get some standards.
>Why did you try to shill me a dead game like SV then?
Because I know how reluctant Pokemon fans are to try a game outside their childhood series
unfortunately, as long as someone will keep praising these games based on their own self-imposed autistic playstyle, someone else will have to fight back with facts
>praising these games based on their own self-imposed autistic playstyle bad
>criticizing these games based on their own self-imposed autistic playstyle good
Sounds inconsistent.
Playing with only your starter is not self-imposed, it's natural since it's encouraged by game mechanics.
Don't even begin quoting NPCs saying "you should raise multiple pokemon" lol, game mechanics > dialogue
Your starter is level 5 and fsr stronger than all the pokemon you meet early on, after the first rival battle it will grow to level 6, then battle a few trainers and it gets to 7,8 etc. The others are still stuck at level 2-4, so why bother with them? Your starter is stronger and will keep getting stronger.
The game itself rewards this and if it didn't intend to do it, then it's a broken game. A bad game.
Meaning of self-imposed in English:
Decided by yourself, without being influenced or ordered by other people.
The game doesn't demand you to do it, the game doesn't tell you to do it, the game gives you a catching tutorial implying that you can have other party members if you wish. It's not even the starter you have to powerlevel as you can catch something else like a Starly or Shinx and maybe even be better off since you get Intimidate. The overleveled starter run by definition is not self-imposed.
is self imposed*
he didn't even say anything bad about platinum, he simply posted his playthrough of it and people just started having meltdowns by themselves because they know the game is badly designed, kek
Look at me I'm a homosexual I don't reply directly.
Platinum is very good, but BDSP is unironically the best Sinnoh experience.
BDSP is trash.
Platinum > DP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BDSP
BDSP is peak Sinnoh
No because Sinnoh is actually good and BDSP is a poorly implemented mess
BDSP is literally Sinnoh minus the annoying shit about Sinnoh (HMs, single use TMs, etc). So yeah, BDSP is perfect.
BDSP has single use TMs moron
Are you guys moronic? When I said DPPt have Single use TMs I meant there's no way to obtain multiples of each TM. In BDSP you can get as many TMs as you want so problem solved.
Also, people who actually like using HMs are masochists imo. I'm not too bothered by HMs myself, but their absence is a good thing.
Most important TMs can be recovered in DPPt as well
>Also, people who actually like using HMs are masochists
No, we're pokemon players
Sinnoh without HMs and with ALL TMs being reobtainable, is a clear improvement over DPPt. Not to mention modern QoL improvements like the "Use another repel?" question, Mints, Bottle Caps, etc. BDSP is up-to-date Sinnoh and I love that.
You call it QoL, i call it sterilizing casualization. All the QoL that was actually needed was already there in DP.
HMs aren't that annoying in Sinnoh compared to, say, Hoenn, and the game having restrictions is good since pokemon is supposed to be a hostile environment you travel through.Removing HMs is sterilizing garbage that makes the game feel more "safe". Why are random wild pokemon helping you? Wild pokemon are supposed to attack you.
BDSP literally has single use TMs and even made HM moves single use as well so i'm not sure what you're on about.
Only 4 posts out of those are mine. The second and the last 3.
It's hard to believe that multiple people disagree with you, huh?
you are very clearly quite obvious yawnie
Honestly pretty hilarious that he's now pretending to be a "fan", is he trying to convince himself that he has any?
Alright, I don't know what else to tell you. Believe whatever you want, it won't change the fact that we're right.
Palworld is better
that stands true for all pokemon games thoughever