Who is the second best character?
Also, why is the Honor/MVP system so terrible? Spam shitty buffs and gratuitous heals? MVP!
Deal 50% of damage? Meh.
Who is the second best character?
Also, why is the Honor/MVP system so terrible? Spam shitty buffs and gratuitous heals? MVP!
Deal 50% of damage? Meh.
>Deal 50% of damage? Meh.
Unironically good, frick you.
Bro, this is a mmo-lite game.
You know what happens in mmos? Everyone is a dps. You need a tank or a healer? Welcome to waiting for one for half an hour or so.
So you gotta over-reward healers to sorta pull away from this imbalance of "everyone plays big dick dpses".
There is no need for support players.
Everything is trivial, and all that matters is DPS for swift clears.
this is not a trinity game you moron
healers are completely unnecessary and tanks dont exist
I would unironcally buy a game that is exactly this game. But with the "Holy Trinity".
I would 100% play tank.
You could easily come up with a tank build in this game with threat increases and defense buffs. Most people go the dps route because seeing big numbers = fun.
Damage too high on Proud and self heals not enough unless you do some dumb bullshit like infinite invincibility on Dual Sword man.
You're not supposed to face tank everything, you still have to dodge. It's more about taking aggro so dumbfrick teammates dont get hit so often.
Pretty much all the dangerous attacks are AoE spam which covers the whole battle arena. Tanking isn't gonna help shitters to survive any longer.
Relink would be dramatically improved if there were any mechanics like that but it's just 4p souls dodging with fisher price combat on almost every character
Roll All Knicknack vouchers option when?
Along with a higher cap, let me have 9999 at once.
do not post harvins
After I started praising lilith my contribution points haver gone up by at least 30%
I thought you broke away from her Id
I'm hosting a lobby right now. I'll keep it open for 20 min or until it gets filled. Only Proud difficulty assorted quests. Password: 18ah58sh
Name: Juan
Can't join right now but good luck Juan.
No problem. Have a nice day.
lick lick lick
*try to insert penis between her toes*
*it's just to big fur her cute feet*
*cum all over her feet*
wtf
Id…
Haha...
Those are some good modeled feet.
>do quick quest
>get put in a normal quest
>1 shot the boss in 2 seconds
I thought scaling would prevent this
that's the neat part, depending on your sigils you're still stronger than the average person at that quest
though the real answer is that you probably queued with someone who manually went for that quest rather than using the quick quest (they probably wanted the S++ for completion)
So how well do you guys think the AI will be in the next DLC fight? I'm assuming it's not worth going in without maxed terminus weapons for them.
in the clip from the live stream 2 out of 3 AIs immediately died to paradise lost
I can't be arsed to farm more silver centrums or the 8 terminus weapons I still haven't unlocked. I must have done Proto baha 50 times and I'm tired of it. This game is too grindy for me
Terminus weapons isn't even that bad, although I've been lucky and got like 6 from 20-ish runs so far.
I just want a single Supp V and basically call it a day.
Just give yourself one or three, don’t let gacha tier rates drive you to insanity
Try 40 without one and you'll hate the grind soon enough. I got 6 TOTAL after 120 runs man
>got all of mine in two days
Jesus Christ. I thought the grind was easy. I was just insanely lucky.
I got my mains as fifth, so i guess i was lucky in that regard atleast
There was an anon on here the other day that got 3 in less than an hour. All of which were his three main characters;
>Id, Vaserage and Siegfried
I was so fricking butthurt.
>watching a friend go like 10 hours with like 1 terminus drop
>meanwhile my first hour got me 4, one of which was my main
shame im a madlad that unlocked everyone despite knowing the extra grind so I haven't been getting the ones for characters i want to play, pretty much playing the gacha on if I get Vane,Narmaya, Cag, Sieg or Yodas next
thats a 13 year old ghost...
I've gotten three in less than 15 runs. None are my mains though.
I got the one I wanted on my 6th or 7th drop, whereas one of my mates got the one he really wanted last. Guess that's what he gets for being a filthy narmaya main
So, I've been wondering. People focus on Zeta's pogo jumping, since it's her bread and butter offensive mechanic. But I think her parry might be overlooked a bit. I haven't played her much myself yet, since I'm still building her Terminus weapon. But just how much can Zeta get away with? What CAN'T she parry?
My penis
>What CAN'T she parry?
same as any parry skill
The only attacks that go through skill parry (at least Narmaya's) are PBaha elemental crystal raid wipes. And I haven't tried parrying Skyfall/Supernova.
But, I meant more like, if I, say, try to parry a ground wave form Black Dragon's gravity bomb, will it let me launch off of it and pogo on the dragon?
Does Zeta's parry avoid status effects? Does it cost Guard shield? It looks kinda like she's guarding.
>encounter a cheater while quick questing
>intentionally let the timer run out just to take up their time
>things that never happened
I do the same. Playing Eugen counts as cheating by the way.
>Eugen
this
if you sit in the corner and just snipe youre worst than the biggest trainer user
hi guys,
Scrub here. I just beat the story. What do I do now? What do I need to grind and max out? Where do I get the best weapons for each character?
If you finished Chapter 0 then just complete things until you get to Proud.
I mean like I'm completely lost here I'm just doing random quests but how do I get high lv and strong enough to kill bosses at 5000 pwr? i'm not sure what I should focus on
You should passively get to level 100 or at least very close to it just by normally progressing to proud.
Just throw on whatever your highest level attack and defense sigils are and swap them out if you get upgrades, there’s no point grinding that shit until proud when the highest tier of them drops.
Pick a weapon and level it up whenever possible.
I dunno, it’s not complicated and you don’t have to worry about min/maxing until endgame.
do quests and have fun
Where the FRICK is her tail?
The best weapon for each character prior to the ones dropped by the very final boss is a fully awakened ascension weapon.
Just know awakening it costs a lot of resources that are annoying to farm for that you may want to just save for awakening the final boss weapon instead.
kek eugen still lives rent free in these threads
>Narmaya lives rent free
>Cag lives rent free
>Eugen lives rent free
Are there any other rent frees I should know about?!
charlotta lives rent free in my head de arimasu
There's nothing in your head after the charlobotomy de arimasu
That's some weird teeth
cutetato
Any way to have repeat mission toggled on by default?
lobby?
What do people online think of Siegfried? He was the first extra crew member I unlocked and I can't stop playing him. Good fricking lord, his moveset is so satisfying.
theres not many of him because his damage sucks but I agree hes fun as hell
t. siegfried main
I think his damage is decent, but I also haven't finished the game yet so it might be different during end-game.
You might think that because you haven't played other characters much. With proper sigils and whatnot tho Siegfried is in the bottom 20% of DPS. He has laughably low dmg caps
still a blast to play though
How do I figure out what my character’s damage cap is?
I keep seeing people say that but I have no clue what it means.
youll notice you hit the same number all the time with say your X attack. that means youre at cap. you can know for sure you hit it if you see a yellow flash over the number, its kinda hard to see sometimes because i think theres a light blue one for critting but youll see it
Late game his damage is very meh unless you really, really invest into him. I personally like him and use him as a secondary (while Cags is my main). He has a lot of nice tools like his Y and Uwe is pretty much makes sure you're always near the enemy. Also his projectile skill (forgot the name) has a fricking massive stun/link bar increase. He's comfy to play, especially when I'm tired chasing MVP and mashing button with Cags.
>unless you really, really invest into him
Say less. I know now what must be done.
I've tried narmaya too, and she's super fun as well. It really clicked once I started figuring out her loops and combo shortcuts. I tried percival and didn't really like him, but that might have just been a bad first impression. I don't mind unlocking more characters to try out, but I'd heard that the more characters you have, the bigger your weapon pool is later on. That's probably not relevant to me right now, though.
Both Narm and Percy are much better characters than Siegfried at end game, but again just play who you enjoy the most.
Options to consider if you enjoy Siegfried's gameplay are Zeta and the big bara monk guy whos name starts with a G, as they use a similar timing mechanic.
Once you get to endgame, the final boss fight drops what is called a "Terminus Weapon" which is a BIS for every single character. It is a chase weapon that requires multiple kills typically to even see one drop, and it can drop for any of your unlocked characters. It is recommended to keep your roster low until you have the Terminus for the characters you want to play the most, then unlock more characters as you collect weapons
>It is recommended to keep your roster low until you have the Terminus for the characters you want to play the most, then unlock more characters as you collect weapons
I don't like this, people should just unlock stuff and have fun with their characters they don't need to minmax terminus drops
This entire game is built around minmaxing, hence the cheating epidemic regarding sigils
>Options to consider if you enjoy Siegfried's gameplay are Zeta
Zeta does look like a lot of fun. Her jump attacks remind me heavily of final fantasy's dragoon class, which is pretty appealing.
Thanks for the tip regarding weapons, by the way. I'll keep thay in consideration for later.
Honestly as long as you can help passing dps checks on later bosses, you'll be fine. It's not hard. Meanwhile there are fights later with multiple bosses that most definitely gonna be chaotic as frick. You see all the time people using top tier characters just dying repeatedly there. So the most important thing in those mission is to survive while chipping down the enemy's health periodically.
>You see all the time people using top tier characters just dying repeatedly there.
That reminds me, do you get extra honor points for dying or something? Or for reviving yourself maybe? I've noticed this trend of whoever died the most getting MVP at the end.
>Honestly as long as you can help passing dps checks on later bosses, you'll be fine
In other words: "don't die a lot and actively contribute to the fight"? Yeah, I can do that.
Siegfried has some good support buffs. If you are playing with friends having access to a 70% team def boost goes a long way.
shit damage output but his defense buff can be good on some boss fights to reduce the cheesy one-shot nature of proud damage taken
play whoever you like though, none of the content is so strictly challenging to where low dps is a hindrance.
the game does a horrible job explaining it (they dont at all actually), but generally you will want enough damage cap sigils to hit trait level 65 regardless of which character you're using, especially when using a terminus weapon
Honestly don't worry too much about who's optimal (its rackam doing his braindead jump attack spam), just play whoever you find most fun.
But it's worth limiting to just 1 or maybe two because the cost of keeping multiple characters up to scratch to keep up with the difficulty curve is too high unless you grind autistically.
LOBBY DOKO
Is she related to Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?
why would you ever play this game with a party it completely trivializes everything even on proud
its fun. post a lobby and see for yourself
Once you start grinding for materials you would naturally want to finish quests faster to save on time.
So you can get fun bits like randomly seeing 3 Charlottas all stand inside an attack with Invincible active shouting HELP ME DE ARIMASU
Pyet-A is fun
Would've been better if it didn't have the excessively long Firefly cutscene AND be able to do it twice if you don't burst it down from like 20% in one go. The super cinematics for the bosses and then making the bosses do them back to back because they are intended as ~50% and ~10% mechanics got old really fast.
>go check the /vg/ thread
>Zeta screenshot full of supp V+ admittedly modded in and everyone is incentivizing it
So is the /vg/ thread just a cheater gathering?
Game isn't competitive so I don't care what they mod in as long as it's not cheated stats. Supp V+??? Go for it. It could be legitimate, I don't know, I just don't want to see cheated stats.
I wont do it myself because I like grinding. But I have nothing against others who do it. I even get it. The drop rate for this shit is insane.
Hello bwo
You only have 3 damage caps but have 4 damage skills? You're probably capping a lot.
weapon has 7+5 dmg cap
So that's 15 x 3 + 3 (sigil boost) + 7 + 5
60 lvls of Damage cap if my math is right. Still around 30% of lost damage right?
terminus weapons also give 5 dmg cap
Oh, so both the 7 and 5 damage cap are part of the wrightstone? Is it even possible to get the same skills? I've never seen one. Your build might as well be impossible.
It is technically possible to get crit 10, 7 dmg cap and 5 dmg cap wrightstone. It's basically the perfect stone. But the odds are so low it may well be impossible.
And yes he's already admitted he cheated all that shit in, including the 3 supp V+s.
I have hundreds of wrightstones and I haven't seen two extra skills that are the same in there. But if it's possible then I guess it's okay then.
I have crit 9 one with duplicated uplift, and I've seen legit ones with the double dmg cap but not crit 10.
But I don't think I've ever seen legit "perfect" stone, you can pretty safely assume anyone with those, or multiple V+ supp sigils are cheated in.
How do I get more fortitude crystals? Spamming quick quest?
double griffin maniac mission
Double Griffin or Double Goblin for the fastest ones.
If you don't have Maniac yet, the 5.5k Goblin one is good as well-- I find it faster until you can reliably destroy the griffins quickly. or you get carried by some epic gamers
I just realized I've never seen a Vane MVP
Should I have auto dash turned on or off?
for me? its double nazarbonju
zeta is so fricking hot Gankerros
How the frick do i beat bahamut versa on proud
dont get hit
hit him until he dies
Save your SBA for the damage checks
Jump and un-lock on unless you really can't keep up with him. Save SBA and maybe link time for the DPS checks
I unlocked the final difficulties. Now what?
umm i dunno anon sorry
>versus rising 2b
fellas...we need her in relink
LMAO ArcSys HAD told tell Cygames that they are a bunch of homosexuals and put panties on the game on their own. Theres no way Cygames will add something like 2B (IE Metera) on a game they have 10000% control.
sooon
grindan n fightan
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pw: rage
how is that these threads are free from shitposting while dogma 2, final fantasy, and elden ring, and more are full of discord spam frickers?
We're too obscure. And normalgays keep away from anime. Especially anime with cute girls for some reason.
Normies seethe at the sight of cute girls, especially cute anime girls.
Motherfricker, early threads were full of shitposters.
>open 20 curio pull
>one of them is new sigil
>ohshitohshitohshit this is it, this is my moment to finally get a supplmentary dmg
>its fricking less is more
What the frick I keep getting random shit from the gatcha I didn't even know existed. Last time I got potent greens.
At least I have two war elementals already....
>that slime quest
LOBBY
How am I supposed to chose 4 members when every character is so cool and fun,, also not a fan of MSP being a shared resource.
What stats should I aim for with the over mastery?
crit, dmg cap up, then (imo) skybound cap up nd skill cap up
sba cap up is almost never worth, i think only air rackam or vas can use it. 1k atk or sba dmg up is usually better
I want to do unruly things to Cog like hold his hands.
i need to break pyeta's tail for lunary detector right?
Yeah. If you want an easy time use percival. You can charge his triangle/Y attack and run through his leg, as you pass under his taint let go and it will hit the tail 100% of the time
What's the best quest for Champion's Merit?
need a ton for low level weapon uncaps
What are these terminus weapons and how do I get them?
they drop from the final final boss in the game
Do I unlock that after doing all the quests?
You unlock the final quest after doing every single other one.
Is it EVERY quest or just the ones that have the little diamond to denote them as important progression quests?
>he doesn't spam the SALVATION sticker during Baha's laser beam
NGMI
I prefer spamming GONG GONG
GONG GONG GONG is for when youre waiting for the ship to ram into his final phase
But then I don't ever get to use GONG GONG.
i prefer using the GO
I will spam WHOA! or Tee-hee and you will like it
I don't get how part breaks work in this game
i tried breaking proto's horn offline just out of curiosity and it seemed impossible, i must be missing something
>Try using Eugen's laser with a mouse for sliming
Holy shit, it all makes sense now.
KB/M controls are just better overall. As long as you have a sturdy mouse that can handle spamming clicks that is
What the frick are those orb things that have characters in them that you start getting as drops in the last couple difficulties?
More upgrade materials.
what about zeta
>Zeta's fate quest is how about a shota is in love with her
bwos...
bros, I love Rosetta
Is it a waste to use a Damascus Ingot to upgrade the level cap of a weapon? I can't find one mat to go from 125 to 150.
it's literally all they're used for
as long as you're using it to go from 125 > 150 then it's not really a waste
That's good. I thought there might be some hidden additional upgrade after 150.
Did someone figure out how to guarantee drops on co-op or did I get lucky getting 4 bahamut weapon drops in a row with the same group
incredibly lucky
or someone on your party cheated
it's just luck
t. had similar streaks
LOBBY
what are the useless treasures that I can sell for Vouchers? I never know whats useless or not
Machine Units and High Grade Scrap cause you can get a shitton from doing the Assault Formation quest.
Sell sigils, you get far more junk ones of those you'll have to paw through than treasure items.
rainbow stones and the gems that are near them, if you don't intend on upgrading sigils the normal way
scroll down to the bottom where the silver centrums are and look at the materials required. If it can be exchanged for centrums, or exchanged for something that can be exchanged for centrums, you dont wanna turn them into vouchers.
>team of dudes
we win with ease
>team of the girls
lose like I've never seen before
Between the Very Hard Infernadile and the triple Dile mission which is the better afk farm? The single Infernadile takes seconds but the triple Dile takes 5 minutes but can also drop a silver centrum.
I think you can exchange triplediles mat for centrum too.
So you think that's a better farm despite the 5 minute length?
Is crit damage a good end game skill? I got a crit damage IV+ sigil that has potion hoarder on it
>team of girls
we win with ease
>team of the dudes
lose like I've never seen before
LOBBY!
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Full already?
Damn that was fast
Not full.think I fricked up making it private first.
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Lobby 2/4 right now
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still 2/4
whos in it?
3 anons now
3/4
get in here homosexuals
RIP at the bonjews
thanks for hosting
Yeah, bummer.
Thanks anons and thanks host.
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THE FRICKING APRROT
Thank God Steam lets you Turbo any button on a controller so I just hold A
i hope you're at least mashing the enter key for it instead of left click, that way you can save your fingers
>team of girls
have to play with one hand, cum with ease, lose like I've never seen before
>team of dudes
lose like I've never seen before
>The Final Report
What in the absolute frick is this over tuned bullshit? Who thought it was a good idea to have a boss with 10x the HP of any other boss that is the most obnoxiously spammy, can't see your screen attack bullshit with every single hit one shotting you? In all my attempts I've yet to even get the fricker below 80% HP.
make a lobby we can kill em
I'm on PS5 unfortunately. never mind though I got in a group with a bunch of randoms that can actually deal damage and we beat it now I can finally farm the good stuff.
anon he's not overtuned at all, he's your gateway into the final difficulty. if you were coasting the whole time, he's basically the "frick you, hope you know your character and basic mechanics" check. there are a few fights in Proud that will kick your ass even harder than that fight
people are soloing him in ~6-8 minutes with endgame gear. as in, true soloing without any party members
Do I need to get max level damage cap?
Yes, that's the most important stat in the game. Maxed out Terminus weapon and four level V damage cap sigils get you there.
Ok I'll do that. Does what
said apply to everyone? Cause they sound universally applicable. Then I guess I should just try and get that and then gradually swap skills out for + ones with better skills. Is there any other decent skills to aim for? I like drain since it meshes well with Stamina.
That applies to just about everyone, yes. There's not much build variety in this game.
There can't be any variety because everyone does the same thing. Damage.
yes
you only need to cap out three Damage Cap V(+) sigils and equip a fourth Damage Cap V(+) while using a fully awakened weapon to hit the max value though
what sigils should I use for Zeta?
I'm using her Awakening sigil, 4 dmg caps, war elemental and one supp dmg
A Tyranny and Stamina sigil. Some defensive stuff like Potion Hoarder, Guts, and Autorevive are good too.
thanks bwo
I'm in chapter 9 and I've never played the main character until I was forced to in the previous chapter. I feel like he's incredibly underwhelming. Is there a bread and butter for him? Any particular offensive skills? His support skills are awesome, but I'm not sure what to take for damage.
>His support skills are awesome
He is pretty much the best support in a game in which is not that required
Decimate is great
OD Surge is good for its high stun
At this point of the game you don't really need the debuffs from Rain of Arrows or Armor Break unless you're still pretty weak or no one else is taking any debuffs and you need them, but that being said Armor Break has tracking and can act as a gap closer so it's kinda nice to have.
OD surge + Decimate is nice since the C/Ds match up and you really want to avoid only being able to use 1 skill before arts resets. Reginlev is pretty good for link time since you can spam it like crazy and under optimal conditions you hit arts 4 just as it comes back off c/d. Actually captain with some sigils can just spam all the damage moves during link time with virtually zero pause. I think someone tested it and the full ground combo finisher, air finisher and link time follow up all give you the fastest charge for power charge so you can do something like ground launcher combo(to gap close) -> air combo -> full power charge to get arts 4 and deal decent damage.
Cygames refuses to put Silva or even Kukuru in any of their 3d games and thus shouldn't be supported.
Any lobby tonight?
AI use potions, right?
No. You can give them Regen or a healing skill since they are already gods at dodging everything that isn't Managarmr for some reason.
Thanks
How strong is Charlotta exactly? Like on a tierlist if there's any.
she's good as frick
that said, don't be a tierhomosexual
Naw, I'm just curious since her freeflow combos don't feel like they're packing a ton of damage and I find myself just spamming the infinite while other characters seem to be constantly doing their nukes. She's my first unlock btw.
the big damage comes from doing her jumping spin since it has a fricking stupid damage cap for whatever reason
Alright bros, I've tested most of the characters and I think I like Id the most. His sword looks cool. His Dragonform is fun. And his giga explosion is satisfying to land.
How is he in end game? Do you want to see him or not?
he's alright
If you use anyone but Perci, Eugen or Rackham you're griefing.
game feels like absolute shit until stout heart wtf
I just use Nimble Defense and Improved Dodge for everyone. So much invincibility.
lobby...
what kind of lobby?
slimeblasting? weapon exp? general gaming? erp meme lobby?
Anything but the latter
it was a joke since some moron kept trying to ask for one of those in an earlier thread
chat is that real?
I wish those gold medals you get from doing quick play were easier to get. Why the frick do they limit the amount of quick play you can do with rewards?
1FFF EB85 3CE1 DC14
random gaming lobby we'll do whatever people want
dont know what the fricks going on but I got 3 terminus in like 5 Bahamuts
Am I doing something wrong with Zeta? Her DMG seems so lacking...I keep pogoing the entire time
Just pogo or are you going into Arvess Hammer on the third jump? I haven't been able to play anyone but Zeta since I got her Terminus. She is a damage machine and can straight up ignore mechanics with her jumps.
Wait so I keep pogoing, get the empower, use it then go back to the ground and start again until I'm in the air and so on?
I just kept pogoing forever...
Bro...
You pogo past the third hit if you absolutely NEED to stay in the air to avoid damage. Her finisher shits out damage. Remember during link time you can go into hammer after a single jump. Spam that shit.
you're not supposed to keep pogoing you're supposed to pogo until the empowered heavy aerial finisher and go right back into a loop to do it again
the combo finisher deals like 500k+
at least that was the biggest number I saw when I used it, so I think you're supposed to spam the combo finisher
okay yeah just did a quick test it does a lot of dmg
What is the optimal rotation for Charlotta under a link time?
You know, back when Granblue used to be posted here more often prior to this game's release, I'd always thought it was one of the more respectable gachashits out there because it doesn't go full moron with fanservice. There's something for everyone. I'm not much of a fanservice person, and just prefer cool designs, of which there are plenty of.
There's a lot of fanservice in the gacha though...
>known issues
>Rackamgay jump spam isn't listed
I'm moronic and I want to be able to main the same characters in Versus and Relink but it isn't working bwos...
>Be rewarded for being a team player while the epeen measuring homosexuals seethe
Based
guess i'm an eugen main...
>Got the same roll for Rackam early.
>Then the save got corrupted and I lost hours of progress, including the overmastery roll.
Oof
How did you recover an older save?
It happened to me before. I keep a manual save now but forgot to update it this time because I had to leave for something. Make a point to go into AppDataLocalGBFR to get your SaveData.dat and make a copy yourself, just for security.
gonna do it tomorrow, this shit scares me.
Steam should let you access older copies of your saves...
Funny enough the game keeps a backup now because this issue happens enough that cygames patched it in but the backup seems to get corrupted the exact same way as the original, either through the auto save or Steam Cloud.
Fricking cygames
>197 hours
>Maxed Cog's Terminus and her sigils
I think I'm done...
Can someone teach me how to play Vas effectively? I know it's all about charge but what about his skills? I do play GS in monhun so you can compare it to it if it's easier for the explanation.
>how to play Vas effectively?
XXYY
Will I be sucked?
No because that's the right way to play. The wrong way is XXXYYYXXXYYY
Should I charge both Ys or just the last?
Both of those finishers are multi-hit attacks with high cap, which you're unlikely to reach without charging. Obviously, if the enemy moves away before you end charging, then it's better to let go an uncharged attack than to whiff entirely.
There's three level charges, first is shit never use it unless you want to use it as a gape closer.
the second one is the most powerful since it has better cap, but it cannot be used after skill
the third one can be used after link attacks, the gap closer skill and the stun skill.
If you want to play fair without using bugs, you can attack > dodge > attack > dodge and you'll get the second level fast, this is good if for positioning and evading enemies attack while retaining some sort of utility.
If you want to REALLY exploit the game, you can cancel your stun skill with a stun and it'll give you a lvl 3 charge attack with no downside since you skill doesn't go on cooldown.
Recommended skills are immortal Pain, Battalions of Fear, The stun damage skill and the 4th is a flex, slow is good for most fights but not good on proto bahamut.
for sigils, quick charge is a must and his signature sigil, after that its the usual dps stuff.
>you can cancel your stun skill with a dodge so you can get a lvl 3
sorry
How does his immortal skill work, should I just use it and go to town?
yes, It makes you immortal and immune to any debuff, so ideally you use it when you know you are going to get hit/loss dps.
With cascade + vaseraga signature sigil its easy to maintain a good uptime.
If you abuse the stun skill > dodge > Y charge you can have a very good uptime, close to permanent with cascade.
just don't forget to keep stout heart active
>feedback
>add more females Fukuhara you fricking homo
>submit
Someone please help my Lyria, I think she's broken...
Hi, I think I can help you. Can you send her to me?
>weeeeeeee
Have you tried giving her food?
>queue for Managarm Nihila to uncap my next Terminus
>online is fricking dead
Frick... Do I have to switch back to Tokyo again?
>eleven years old
out of 100
Isn't it great?
I love delicious flatties so much. She needs to taste the pleasure of being a GROWN UP
She probably gets used by the male crew on a daily basis
Can't blame them I'm sure she's a temptress.
How's IO as an AI party member?
If you stack quick charge is she able to actually get her attacks off?
give her quick cast and steady focus and she will chunk bosses with flowery seven
What are the best skills on AI io?
ROOMS DOKO?
There is no longer anything to do in the game but all I want to do is play it
good geimu
>the game is straight up bullshitting you
i have 4 damage cap V sigils and yet i feel like they dont work im still hitting the same numbers
That's not possible.
You can only hit the same numbers if you're already at the cap. But if you were at the cap before, then the numbers should've changed after slotting another damage cap.
Are there any parry based characters?
Yordha, Perci, Vaseraga, and Charlotta can all parry.
More or less everyone has some parry move or skill. Zeta, for example, has her unique attack button dedicated entirely to a parry. However, I wouldn't call Zeta a parry character per se.
There's a few characters who have parry skills actually. Zeta, Charlotte, Yodarha, Vaseraga, Siege, probably missing another one.
Vane has guard point on some of his moves so you can pretend that you're playing Vindictus instead.
It's not just guard points, like the parry at the start of other characters' charged attacks. Vane's entire heavy attack animation chain has block property.
>got 20% skill cap on zeta's mastery
>doing 100k damage per jump now
and this is just the beginning, i've barely even built her
her loops count as skills and not normals?
damn i was thinking of running combo booster
wait shit i also got 20% normal attack on the same roll, that's probably where it's coming from
i dunno why i thought her jumps dealt skill damage
im capped at 149k with or without the bonus, the only way to boost my dmg now is supp sigil
WHY CAN'T I FRICKING STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS GAME?
the monster hunter virus has infected you
How many hours are you in?
I don't wanna look.
Can you play this game with one other person and fill the other two slots with AI companions?
Yep, the host uses the first 2 AI slots. The person joining can't use their AI though
>finally hit Proud Bahamut
>start the terminus grind
>get five back to back, then nothing for three hours
>not a single one is for any of the characters I have leveled or even looked at beyond the cutscenes they showed up in
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GIVE ME IDs FUNNY DRAGON SWORD SO I CAN FINISH HIM AND THEN DECIDE IF ANY OTHER CHARACTER IS EVEN CLOSE TO AS FUN AS HIM
hmm? What sword?
So I got Zeta's Jump from Masterwork vouchers. Does that mean i can spam her loop without timing it?
you still have to time it, it's just more lenient
but don't waste a slot on a crutch sigil that only enables bad habits
just roll until you get awakening
>finish 1 weapon
>look at another and realize how many more silver censures I need
I guess I got a decent amount of hours out of this
>tfw doing quick quests and deleting bosses in seconds as level 70s stand around confused
You mean non-Quick Quests, because Quick Quests downscale you so much even low levels are more likely to get MVP over you.
The flight timing sigil is actually a DPS upgrade because you can do 2 loop arvess hammer with it depending on the boss, without the supp buff.
Wait, so her personal sigil is what adds the second hit?
best quest to farm exceptional refinium?
>quest
Farm the Golem in the desert in the Main Story on Ultimate difficulty. Drops 6 Exceptional Refinium guaranteed.
As Zeta I like having Ferry in my party because she keep saying my fire is beautiful.
as any character I like having charlotta in my party because she says
DAIJOUBU DE ARIMASUKA??
when I die
I fricking love this little potato gremlin De arimasu
>play as Id with ferry in the party
>she says things about how Id is actually a really nice/gentle person
Gallanza and Maglielle should have been playable.
they will be in the gacha
What should I spend coins with? I'm thinking exceptional refinium, but is there anything better?
>Who is the second best character?
Io. I might have stuck with her if the game didn't force me to play her with so much QoL missing up until I unlocked Cag after Furycane.
Are Siegfried and Id fun to play? I like their design and big dick swords.
yea
they have strangely low damage caps though but they bring good utility
Hit the dummy with sieg for a few minutes to get the flow of his combo, but he's really fun, and his perfect combo is really satisfying
How do I access the dummy? Is there a training mode after the first basic character tutorial once you use a ticket?
Go to the docks and travel to Grandcypher.
Narmaya is the most honest character.
How do you play her?
Chain combos, stance dance, use skills. The way it was intended. No jump attack spamming, skill dodge cancel or other exploits.
i'm just glad narugays have found some peace with their choice
Ranged AI seems to be exceptionally good at dodging. Oigen gets Unscathed every quest, while I can see the melee characters tanking hits during bloodthirst.
What should I spend my Rafale coins on? I've maxed them at 999 cause I never use them
Fortitude Crystals L
Just buy Large exp gems
Fortitude crystals L or exceptional refinium
I'd personally go for the refinium because while there is a fast farm for it, you dont get to double dip and potentially get centrums doing it like you do with fortitude crystals
>Fortitude Crystals L
Bros, you should buy 5 Fire Shards and 5 Earth Shards instead, then trade them to the infinite quest in Folca that gives you 1 Fortitude Crystal L, 3 Fortitude Crystals M, and 700 Mastery Points. Each Shard costs 3 Rafale coins so 3x5x2 = 30, same as one Fortitude L. The only thing is you need to also give Siero some super common mats (I forget which ones but it's worth)
Too much hassle. I'm capped on MSP anyway.
i'd still rather get refinium because the goblin/griffon mines give centrums as well
>i'd still rather get refinium
>dumb chink uses his SBA while two party members have SBA sealed
>spends the entire rest of the fight spamming the Thank You! sticker
>forces us to wait out the entire post-quest timer
>SBA sealed
Why are you even fighting Angry Manjew?
>quest timer freezes when the boss is in Bloodthirst
Huh? Interesting. Never noticed this before.
it also stops during sba chains
so some afk clears seem pretty fast but they have like 3 bloodthirsts and 2 chains lmao
>during sba chains
Yeah, I knew that already. But I didn't realize Relink's encounter design is THAT Japanese as to stop the timer during the "run around like headless chicken focusing entirely on dodging the boss' super attack" phase. A ton of Japanese games seem to include those, but Relink is the only I know to have high enough QoL to stop the timer.
Bloodthirst is essentially an invuln phase so it would be really gay if you got pushed out of the time-based challenges
>16mil point as Cag
I felt like I was carrying that team, Jesus.
>Cag
>bragging about honors
More inflation than in a Dobson comic.
I don't use that crit buff though, unless Cag's other skills give huge points.
I'm sure just the constant def down spam from his charged heavy gives a huge boost in honors.
It's not just buffs. Debuffs do it too. It's insane.
Vane sugoi
It's so satisfying seeing capped ults.
That's not from an ult, that's from full chain burst. But yeah, hitting hard cap is nice.
Is that really the full chain burst damage combined or just the game can't show the total number because of lack of digits?
the latter. it's just a recap of the damage that happened, so it's definitely more than 9,999,999.
although the actual chain burst finisher might cap out at 9,999,999. or it might not.
WINDOW SHOPPERS WELCOME
YOU'LL LOVE WHAT YOU SEE
I will have a Draph wife, thanks.
Is that you, anon? I was in your group earlier.
no i just stole the image from an anon on here.
Fellow brother.
dps checks and damage caps should never exist in the same game
>it's another "dealling too much damage so the boss dies before I can even get close to doing the side objectives making getting S++ damn near impossible" episode
How the frick are you supposed to get the link time ones?
Clearly you're not killing it fast enough, because a speedkill without side objectives still gives you S++.
Just overkill, it's worth as much as a side objective. Finish with full chain ougi and put in as much damage as possible.
ADD THEM CYKAGAMES YOU COWARDS
>get angry manisraelite in quick quest for like the 5th time
>type in chat "hate this fight"
>"hate" got censored to ****
no fricking way they expected people to be this thin-skinned, dude
Bro thats ****speech.
Devs just grab some existing wordfilter lists and import them into their games. Nobody's going to actually look into what's in them, let alone remove any entries. So they just keep growing.
Continue posting the sex rat
She's 14
out of 10
She must be fertile as frick then
I love realistic underwear, this is much better than that sticking to the skin stuff.
What's with this human form?
She has a yin and a yang personality
If you take her ears off during sex, it turns in to rape
I see.
What's the consensus on Vaseraga?
Your life ends 30 minutes from now.
You frick you beat me to it.
Seriously though - he's really good. One of the few characters that doesn't rely on glitches or animation cancelling bullshit to do absurdly high damage.
I play him and Id. I play Id more, but Vaseraga is better.
>One of the few characters that doesn't rely on glitches or animation cancelling bullshit to do absurdly high damage.
But he absolutely does
No he doesn't. You can do that, sure. And it is beneficial. But he's still powerful as frick without it. To the point where I'd argue he's one of, if not the most heavy damaging character.
You can also apparently keep up his Death Buff permanently with maxed out Supplementary Damage, but I'm pretty sure that's a glitch / oversight and will be patched in time if Cygames decide to continue to support relink.
Vas' cooldown reduction is absolutely not a glitch, just a miscalculation on devs' part. Zeta's two hit loop Arvess Hammer? - that's a glitch.
i agree with that, even playing "normally" just hitting the lvl 3 charge off his skills it's already solid damage, especially when progressing since it's so easy to cap
when you add in the capped xxyy you start skipping entire phases
Worth?
I'm learning Charlotta and I assume Cascade is good on her
Yeah, it's a good combo.
I tried cascade on Rosetta and it did literally nothing, but I guess it just needs a very fast hitter.
explode
Cascade efficacy scales inversely with attack speed.
It's not a fixed percentage of cooldown reduction per hit.
The idea is that it should be equally effective on all characters regardless of attack speed, but in practice, it's much worse than Charlotte's unique trait that reduces CDs by .5% per hit in noble stance.
If you can stack both, however, it's good synergy.
cag has the same issue as charlotta, her character sigil has an actually good version of cascade already too. So on top of it being generally shitty with fast attacks, putting a normal cascade sigil on is barely noticeable.
Got Siegfried's Terminus to max, at 65 damage uncap, and pretty disappointed with his damage still. I'm not sure why they gave his big combo finisher such a low cap. The investment for a single character was so high, I'm not sure I want to repeat this journey with another.
The thing about Siegfried is that while his damage caps are pretty low, it means you can stack into a bunch of other sigils. Get some QoL shit like Cascade and CD reduction, some tanking shit with Steel Nerves. Get Guts and Auto Revive or a bunch of Healing Cap, Potion Hoarder and Drain
Then you can spam your buff and debuff skills, which is insanely helpful during fricked up situations.
I like having a good Siegfried online. The constant defense down and defense up buffs are nice and they will almost never die themselves.
Hebe tummy
>cleared gallanza and maglielle single player first try
>cleared whitewyrm first try
>guess I'll do blackwyrm next
>entire team jobs to lasers
>higher debuff resist than baha
>a fricking dps check out of nowhere
>on a no name dragon that got deleted from OG
The difference in power between him and whitewyrm seems really bizarre
White dragon is fricking easy though compared to the Black person dragon. How do you even job to it? And as for debuff res - there are adds in the arena that leave throwable orbs. Those can be used to dispel buffs from it.
>White dragon is fricking easy though compared to the Black person dragon
Did you misread my post or something?
The only thing I found annoying with the black dragon is when he does the forward giant laser beam attack.
If you play melee and lock onto his head to try to get part break, you end up walking into the laser from you combo and commit soduku.
I hope they tweak some of the dmg caps in the next update, some of the skills makes no sense having like 500% dmg ratio but only a 200% dmg cap. Others have very low dmg ratio but insanely high caps for some reason.
Holy shit, 2Ghanda.
This game is so fricking fun. The story is absolutely cheesy, but fun enough. There aren't enough bosses at all, but the combat is so addictive.
That's how I feel too. Still having fun 200hrs in
>charlotta
>improved dodge
>untouchable
boing boing boing boing arimasu
>improved dodge
>untouchable
>on character with the best gap closer in the game and 5 sec invulnerability on demand
>nooooooo you can't have fun
frick off
>noooooo I'm a shitter who needs waste of a slot sigils to have fun
frick off
a Sigil slot is only "wasted" if you overcap.
>two morons fighting
3
Stop posting an off-topic shilled flop. Thank you very much.
Needs more shilling
I don't play the gacha or know the characters that well. I'm just posting cause
>Sexy 14yo rat
Glad we're on the same page
There's nothing sexy about disgusting rats.
There's nothing disgusting about sexy 14yo rats
The rat girl gets shilled alot?
Can you get subtraits on untouchable? It's fun af but wasting a whole sigil slot for it is making me sweaty...
The yinyang personality Vikala has would be fun, but I feel like they already kind of filled that niche with Cagliostro, and even Narmaya to some extent
Neither of those two are hebes though, so I'm still hoping
I'm hitting around 50k per hit on my Fenny's air Y move. Is that good? Any Fenny bros here?
It has like 97k cap, so you're halfway there.
>It has like 97k cap, so you're halfway there.
Is that before or after getting 65 points in damage cap?
After
That's not too bad then. Thanks.
>put all my best sigils and start awakening charlotta's ascension weapon
>still doing piddling damage
fellow glue-eaters, how do you play the tiny wife?
Charlotta's damage is frontloaded into the combo finisher. Don't stand there just mashing X for infinite basic combo. Once your sword starts glowing, you're supposed to do a an X finisher. Then chain into a damaging skill into another finisher. Basically only keep the basic combo up if your skills are on c/d.
Is the little swordsman fella bad or do people just not like old men with that counter attack thing after doing a mash combo
he's a midget old man which is like a double whammy against his popularity
but he's fun
I was gonna main him just because he was my first male SSR when I played the gacha years ago. Little homie carried my ass through a bunch of shit. First female SSR will never ever happen in this game over the newer prostitutes so my OG waifu is forever locked in the cuckshed.
>First female SSR will never ever happen in this game over the newer prostitutes
>newer prostitutes
Every single character in Relink is from 2016 or earlier
I would eat a shoe if they remembered Carmelina exists anon (but I would do it with glee)
Her chances might have been better if Platinum had done their job properly and game released when it originally should have. Since FKHR back then was hoping to have most of the gacha roster in Relink. But since they took the job overthemselves they had to reduce the roster a ton so only ones we are getting as patch and DLC are stuff that will sell and not a lot of it. Those datamined parts already kind of point to that direction, if they are even real
Stupid sexy 13 years old
I've been playing Yoda quite a bit recently. He's become one of my favorites, right behind Cog and Zeta. I see him often enough online.
He doesn't appear as often as Percy or Rackam but I've seen Yodarha around. Definitely more often than Gandhagoza who I think I met twice after 90 hours of playing.
I haven’t seen Gandhagoza since the demo on console. Gahahaha fighting old men aren’t as popular as they used to be
Soriz would've been a better pick
You're right. I wonder if they didn't choose Soriz cause they're afraid if they are bringing too many Versus character.
ROOMS DOKO?
I can't fricking find anyone online in my region. And switching to Tokyo is too much work.
I have a mighty and urgent need to mating press Charlotta.
FRICK THESE DROP RATES IVE GONE TEN PYET-A WITH NO LUNAR PLATE or w/e its called
Break the tail.
How much better is Slimepede compared to Seeds of Trouble? I'm too weak to kill lots of slimes in Slimepede.
If you're slime blasting there's no point picking a quest other than Slimepede.
RAAAAAAAPE
I don't care if she's low tier, she satisfies my adult women fetish and she's actually really easy to play.
I swear sometimes when she uses her burst her breasts jiggle like crazy and then other times they don't move.
Why is this hag allowed to show off her panties uncensored?
Because it's a leotard, not panties.
Can primal beasts get pregnant?
I'm going to try
You can try.
Hag privilege
Only if they were build to do so, so large chance answer is no
Is she low tier? I kept reading that, at least as CPU, she was really good.
>I don't care if she's low tier
You really shouldn't. There are no bad characters, only bad players.
Zeta's nice for part breaking. Just lock onto the target body part and keep pogoing on it until it breaks.
i don't know if it matters, but kat and zeta fricks shotas
>stuck at "connecting" during the end of the quest
>can't fricking claim my rewards
That's worse when I couldn't find players to do the quests with.
Disconnect your ethernet cable
thoughts on AI ghanda
too slow to keep up with bosses
thoughts on player ghanda
pretty good
especially once more people learn his damage transfer bug
>bug cheesing
So I guess the actual answer is he is bad then?
nah, ghanda's only real issue is that a lot of his damage is backloaded into linktime
you're not always going to trigger linktime in an endgame farming party where bosses are getting melted before it can proc, but that's only for overgeared hyper min-max shit. he's pretty good otherwise, as long as you learn how to play him
Outside of Link Time, stun bots
I play danchou. Thoughts about me?
sex
I don't.
ive only unlocked and played zeta but im starting to get annoyed with her on certain bosses because of the hitboxes and shit falling out of the sky
who should i play next
If you mean vulkan bola or whatever he is called just don't bother. That boss sucks ass. Also proto to some extent because of the camera throwing a fit. Otherwise you should have no issues.
is vulkan bola the lava guy with the islands that you have to hop around? if so, yes that is the one that is pissing me off big time right now
Yes don't bother that is a shit boss for most melees but it goes quadruple for Zeta specifically. It's just a garbage boss.
so just tough it out with zeta? feel like i should still get another "main" going for dumb situations like that boss
The game really only has 2 bosses that are sort of standing/flying behind an invisible wall and you fight it on a platform sort of thing. The lava guy and proto bahamut. Both suck a bit for Zeta but proto bahamut is still acceptable levels of suck, it's just the lava guy that is a complete disaster.
alright ill take your word for it and stick with her. cause i do like her a lot that lava boss is triggering me so much though.
i dont have her sigil that makes the loop easier maybe that will help a little eventually on these shit bosses
Absolute cancer boss for most melee characters.
You can be standing directly before his torso and still whiff.
Too many other bosses are similarly frustrating for melee
Ranged characters should be nerfed.
>farm 30 billion silver centrums to uncap non-terminus weapons
OR
>farm 30 billion slimes for a 0.000000001% prismatic spawn chance, and use dama bars to uncap the weapons
Each character only has 4 weapons that require 1 (one) centrum to uncap each, what's your problem?
That's 76 centrums.
that's not even 2 fully awakened terminus weapons bwo
That's more than a whole awakened Terminus weapon.
Ive goten 10 spawns by just levelling, one by one, all characters from 60 to 100. Id say its normally 5 or 6 runs per character
Does the sigil booster allow to go beyond the sigil cap, e.g. 16 if the cap is 15?
Correct
nice
Oh, hey, a second one. At this rate I might actually be able to gear up half a CPU party to farm stuff, when I can't get matched with anyone online.
Imagine if you could fully afk farm slimes