Then you find out none of this shit makes a single bit of difference and you've been scammed horribly, you've spent four times the price for fricking shadows and other bullshit you will never actually miss. That's why people get consoles, they just don't fricking care they want something that does the job and doesn't cost as much as a used car.
>high resolution but low effects settings
yes I know 1440p isn't considered "high" anymore but we went through this bullshit when games jumped to 720 and 1080 (and the consoles couldn't handle it then either) and I thought the lesson had been learned. native res is nice but effects >>> resolution when it comes to actually looking good
oh cool I can see in minute detail how blotchy the shadows are, awesome
graphics settings have barely meant shit for a very long time now. this isn't like the 2000s where the difference between low and high was a completely different looking game.
seethe more, PC paypig troony.
>Nvidia is moronic
Yeah, big surprise. But it's not that stupid when you consider that people still buy their shit
>he still thinks LOW means bad
Wake up grandpa, this isn't the 2000s anymore.
Ultra settings have been a meme for like at least a decade now
[...]
Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
They refuse to upgrade their monitors
>IT DOESNT COUNT!!!! ITS ACTUALLY GOOD!
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
It doesn't matter... Until it does, as soon as Sony or Microsoft says 8k/4k this, ray tracing that, you'll be shitting on any other platform, claiming your preferred one is the bested and fastest, because the company said so, it's all so tiresome.
Imagine the performance had all those transistors that went to ray tracing been used for standard GPU shit instead.
Wouldn't it be better to just having a dedicated card for ray tracing so you have a choice?
Nvidia wanted to force RT down everyone's throats so they have a feature to brag about and use as a selling point.
I don't even pay that much attention to the lighting, it didn't seem to add much to the experience in cyberpunk the only game I've played that uses the tech everywhere else it was a waste of space.
SPBP.
We've long reached the point of diminishing returns. A PC that costs 4 times as much as a console may have games that look slightly better. But the difference tends to be barely noticeable unless you compare them side by side.
>unless you compare them side by side
It's hilarious that PCkeks have to do this to convince themselves they didn't get scammed because they don't actually notice any of that extra shit while playing. I mean it's literal proof that you wasted your money if you have to go and compare because to your basic perception you can't tell.
SPBP.
We've long reached the point of diminishing returns. A PC that costs 4 times as much as a console may have games that look slightly better. But the difference tends to be barely noticeable unless you compare them side by side.
>own a console >still cannot mod your own games >so braindead you can't even understand the implications of that
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Worse graphics AND 30 fps. Upgrading from a last gen console to a current gen console is a much more sensible thing to do than upgrading from a last gen GPU to a current gen GPU because it actually makes a huge difference for fairly little money.
Ganker really underestimates how many people just want to have it simple and easy. Me included, I love video games, but I just want to play on a big tv on a couch. If the PS5 version of the game is inferior I'll live with it. I still get to play the game so who cares. Call this cope all you like, but I really don't care to complicate this already expensive and time consuming hobby any further.
>2000+23 >Poorgays still think GPUs and PC gaming is about maxing settings with ultra quality shadows >Not Consistency and fidelity >Not VR >Not resolutions higher than 1080p >Not playing games that as a baseline are highly demanding >But LE ULTRA SETTINGS xDD
Well I mean,is true,normal people outside of Ganker doesn't care that much,they just care if the game looks good enough and doesn't wanna spend that much money....that's why you see people here getting mad about this,they spend way more money on their pc's to play the same shit that other people plays for in cheaper console they can't comprehend that...
>high resolution but low effects settings
yes I know 1440p isn't considered "high" anymore but we went through this bullshit when games jumped to 720 and 1080 (and the consoles couldn't handle it then either) and I thought the lesson had been learned. native res is nice but effects >>> resolution when it comes to actually looking good
oh cool I can see in minute detail how blotchy the shadows are, awesome
This is further proven by the Gotham Knights debacle. When they tried to blame the Series S for their incompetence and diversity hiring practices, I just couldn't stop laughing
The funny part is that Arkham Knight, perhaps the most infamously shit PC port in recent years, was actually fixed very thoroughly and I ran it on gtx960 no problem.
NTA but I'd say 60fps with good looking fx running at 720p - 1024p (4:3)
1 year ago
Anonymous
alright i guess i can believe it at that resolution
1 year ago
Anonymous
It might be nostalgiagayging but playing games with a shitty 750ti on a Dell 4:3 1280x1024 screen and a shitty keyboard + mouse on Windows 7 just feels like maximum comfy. No LGBT mandatory ads on your desktop, no AAA black female protagonist games supported at all... Just fun games.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>1280x1024 screen
If you have that kind of set up, get yourself a CRT monitor that goes up to 1600x1200.
Stable 30fps at 1440p high (minus textures which I had no VRAM to max out). Could have gotten high 60 at 1080p and lower settings. For a GPU I got as a quick $70 replacement because my previous one blew up, that's pretty damn good, especially considering the shitstorm on PC release.
1 year ago
Anonymous
i first played it on a 970 and it hardly ever reached 60+ at 1080. it mostly sat around 58 and dropped below 30's when destroying environment objects with the batmobile. this was consistent through every single graphical setting.
something must have just been wrong with my pc. it didn't really last too long after that
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, the game really did run like absolute shit at release and for quite a while afterwards. But try it today and it's like a different piece of software.
1 year ago
Anonymous
that was after the patching. i don't even wanna imagine how it was at release
1 year ago
Anonymous
I had a 980ti when it first came out and I couldn't even launch the game. It would bug out and crash in the first cutscene
1 year ago
Anonymous
And when Arkham City launched, getting that game to run on PC legitimately was a hell of logins and verifications that would go wrong half the time.
It also ran better on PC, even at launch, than it did on consoles. The whole “bad PC port” meme is fricking ridiculous. Hasn’t been true since the early 2000s when pc ports were actually just cereal box tier remakes of the console version. Now if you get a console tier release on PC with fixed framerates or low resolutions it’ll be headline news for a decade.
I thought the Series S nontroversy was even funnier when I went back to PS2 horror games and noticed the texture work and most especially effects were still really good for such incredibly weak hardware but Gotham Knights couldn't even do some of the most basic shit on a Series X despite being almost 2,000 times more powerful
graphics settings have barely meant shit for a very long time now. this isn't like the 2000s where the difference between low and high was a completely different looking game.
No, you stupid homosexual, I'm just not underage.
Ultra settings are meme nowadays, don't even try to argue it. The small graphical upgrade you get isn't worth the performance loss at all.
>Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
why would you upgrade ? everything new runs on 1080p with mid graphic cards.
>HDR >higher fps >better panel
As you said, if you're fine with 1080p, you don't need to upgrade your gpu. Because if you're going to upgrade you need to buy another monitor as well and that shit is stupid.
I got a LG 27GP850-B. I like it don't get me wrong but there are so many fricking monitors, then you have HDR which is a neat feature but not every HDR is good, then you have the panel, ghosting issues, does it get too smudgy or not and so on.
And the naming conventions are also fricking stupid. >The [BRAND] 2448933DICK 27 ULTRA is a a 27" monitor from their budget lineup.
Consoles are for people too stupid to build their own PC. They buy overpriced prebuilts and complain they run like shit. That being said, overpriced GPUs are for morons.
A console is currently cheaper than a RTX 4000 series, saves space and is less work.
Games are usually cheaper too.
Like you can get P5R for 20 dollars while even on a Sale, it cost on Steam 40 dollars.
And you can play the same games. Sure, you might not get some detailed settings or +60 fps but it's not that important when the game runs well enough.
consoles still can't even do 1080p 60fps
Do you know how settings work?
It's not the console's fault devs want to put a billion particle effects in their game
Again he is coping and mass replying, you don’t understand how it even works.
You probably have a Pissstation 5 and defending your shifty fricking decision. Kys
>You probably have a Pissstation 5 and defending your shifty fricking decision.
No, I don't have a PS5 and play mostly on PC except for the occasional console exclusive game.
I don't even see why you come to that conclusion, I wrote in that same post that I got a 144Hz monitor. I wouldn't need that if I was playing on console.
Pretending people are just stupid for buying a console when you can't even understand the reasons why they get one in the first place, is just delusional. You don't understand it why someone wouldn't want to spend more money to play the same games, so you just imagine those people must be stupid.
dang that's a lot of cope
lol cope poorgay
I just like to play my games instead of benchmarking them.
1 year ago
Jewhunter
You just said that ultra settings are a meme, you know they are not and you are mostly lying. If not post specs of your “pc” you fricking fraud.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You just said that ultra settings are a meme
Yes >you know they are not
No, they are a meme >and you are mostly lying.
Where?
Show me one fricking game that looks significantly better on Ultra than High/Very High. You can maybe tell minor improvements but nothing that's worth the extra money or less FPS
1 year ago
Jewhunter
Post the pc specs fraud.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why?
You won't even post a game that has Ultra settings worth a shit.
And even if I post my specs, why would it matter?
You're just looking for a reason to dismiss what I said. >high-end specs
Hypocrite, opinion doesn't count >not the latest high-end
You didn't spend enough money, opinion doesn't count.
Buying shit like a 4080 is just peak moronation.
You can get an entire build for that money and all you'd get is playing the same games on 4K@Ultra with +60 fps.
It is a meme
1 year ago
Jewhunter
I don’t even have a 4090 or a3080 or whatever you Black person. But I can appreciate the ultra settings experience
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh, so you're the fraud.
Would also explain why you refuse to show any game with Ultra settings worth a shit.
I don't even understand what you're saying with "appreciating ultra settings experience"
Do you just look at Youtube videos where people benchmark?
1 year ago
Jewhunter
I’m not fraud kid, I’m far from a fraud. You however are a fraud. I said I don’t have the highest end pc and you refuse to post your specs. You are a fraud and for your other question, go see an eye dr dickhead.
>Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
I mean they factually are. Have you seen the steam survey? Not that there's anything wrong with that, muh gwafix are a meme. It's just funny how they all tall like they're running the latest and greatest on their rigs when none of them are.
"Fidelity" means "faithfulness" and you need an original to compare the copy to, in order to determine whether the copy is "high fidelity" or not. It makes no fricking sense in the context of a video game world like GTA. What is it being faithful to??? Another case of vidya culture copying terms from other media (e.g. "high-fidelity audio") nonsensically and embarrassingly. I will never stop being mad and my autism will never be soothed.
with $1000 or € you can build something that already exceeds a PS5 >but the ps5 costs 500$ You can only get packages with games that nobody wants at almost $200 more than the price.
The worst part is the Series X and PS5 cost less money COMBINED than that GPU, and that's before you buy the case, PSU, motherboard, RAM, CPU, CPU cooler, case fans, RAM, SSDs, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, microphone, external DAC and desk.
I bought 15 of the things you listed in 2012 and still use them. The only things I have upgraded is the mobo/cpu 5 years ago and GPU 7 years ago. You are stuck with obsolete tech from day one and cant upgrade at all until a new gen comes out or a marginally better version of the current gen comes out for another $400+. You are coping and you are a third world shitskin poorgay.
Honestly, is there any games outside of the PS4 Slim/Xbox One S/Switch library worth getting that (S)NEED 2000$ worth of computer parts and +5 in autism for troubleshooting?
Only problem I have had with my computer in 16 years is a shitty chink driver for my DAC would blue screen my computer every now and then until I used default windows drivers. PC library is 100x any console. If I want to play a 20+ year old game I can either buy it from GoG/Steam or download it for free, that goes for any game honestly, except for some online games. The only reason to own a console nowadays is if you are poor, dumb, or just don't play many games and are happy playing what consoles have. All that being said there are still a ton of things you can do on a PC other than gaming.
Nearly ever game I play benefits from my 4090. Big graphics games like RDR2 and Spooderman max out my 3440x1440p HDR 175hz OLED with perfect frame pacing. I can actually run RTX games without breaking a sweat. Indie games that are unoptimized as frick have no problems (hell let loose, for example). I’ll be able to play all the RTX remixes no problem. Oh and also DLSS 3 actually works.
Yeah except I have to buy every game and then buy a subscription to play them online using my own fricking internet. GPU prices are certainly scummy and scammy though, they're really the only thing that is massively inflated currently.
It's a locked down box sold at a loss running hardware from 6 years ago that has ways of monetizing itself further, of course it costs less.
That GPU will still be useful after the next consoles reach their end of life.
Consoles are for people too stupid to build their own PC. They buy overpriced prebuilts and complain they run like shit. That being said, overpriced GPUs are for morons.
Overpriced GPUs like the 4090 are the only ones that can run games like the PS5 can. Sure, the PS5 might not technically be as powerful (it's 3090 Ti tier), but optimization really is everything, and the fact is optimizing for each and every PC is so impossible that nobody bothers doing it at all.
Yeah I just bought one and now I realize I need to wait until next month to find a new 2023 spec’d case with redesigned airflow so I’m not shoving the card up against the walls
PC for everything besides multiplayer games. Super ironic that the great fps games that make PC unique are ruined by cheaters. PUBG, DayZ, escape from tarkov, even arena shooters that don't involve full loot whatsoever
I used to hate Dayz and fell in love with it all over again on Xbox due to M&K support, populated official servers, and zero cheaters
Never met a hacker on console and I have over 10,000 hours on ARK PS4 and DayZ Series X. Last time I saw one was on mario kart and COD WaW on Wii over a decade ago but those were FTL hackers who just made things more fun for the lols
Never met a hacker on console and I have over 10,000 hours on ARK PS4 and DayZ Series X. Last time I saw one was on mario kart and COD WaW on Wii over a decade ago but those were FTL hackers who just made things more fun for the lols
people only use that cronus shit on slop like Warzone.
Oh, it'll work, but it'll likely fill your computer with dust and other particles (depending on your environment), and it won't be as efficient as proper cooling, but it will keep your stuff somewhat cool.
The point of intake case fans is to forcefully direct air inside a closed box. You don't need a large blower fan if one panel is removed anyway, because the interior fans (CPU and GPU coolers) are free to pull air from the entire room anyway.
it does work, I actually used to have that exact model of PC and the CPU uses this godawful passive heatsink that can't keep it cool. Case has like no airflow either which helps.
I remember it would have thermal cutouts constantly playing WoW unless I opened the side up and did exactly that.
Honestly I've spent most my time on my Switch and Series X lately while PS4 and PC have been relegated to sidecar devices. There's something about that quick resume that is so god damn comfy
>$450 3060ti shits all over cucksoles with and without upscaling >its pc so every game you ever owned runs on it >plus emulators >plus you can post on 4chud >plus no need to pay to use your own internet
Even poorBlack folk can play on pc, why even buy a console?
gaming really is just the mental illness hobby at this point, YWNBAW, you will never live down your thousand dollar graphics card, consoles will never be a good investment. have a nice day everyone in this thread. myself included kek
How are consoles supposed to improve in the future when competitive hardware is THAT bulky?
It's not like MS/Sony have some magic sauce that can compress 4090 performance to a smaller form factor.
>slingtly weaker
bruh laptop 3080 at peak voltage is weaker than desktop 3060. And most laptops run GPU's at gimped voltage which makes the gap even bigger. It's not even close.
The laptop cards consume less than half the power, contain maybe 60% of the hardware, and run at only 3/4 the speed. It doesn’t sound real but that’s a formula for about 70% of the power of the thicc card. They just design the desktop components to run way ahead of their peak power efficiency in order to get as much performance as possible out of them. You can take a new Ryzen CPU designed to run at 100c all day, a 4090 designed for 400w, cut the power threshold by over 20% for each, and still get 90% of the performance (and way better temps)
AIO version is thinner not counting the radiator, fits into 2 slots allows use of the second PCIE slot, cards are getting rediculously big these days mohr's law truly is dead expect GPUs the size of entire desktop cases at this rate.
Why would you ever want a console over a PC. >Muh price!
Budget gaming isn't what it used to be, no.
But if you already have a competent system now, you'll be set for the forseeable future, and you'll never be hardware locked from playing any games that'll realistically get released, especially because games get developed to fit the most widely used hardware setups.
GPU-wise, that's the 1650.
Meanwhile with consoles, you're practically forced to buy a new 400-500$ system every time a new generation rolls around, or multiple systems if there are exclusives.
Speaking of. >Muh exclusives!
What exclusives? Sony and MS have zero exclusives on their shitboxes, and Sony keeps fricking porting the only worthwhile games they have to PC, and Yuzu exists to play any game on the Switch, better than the Switch can output.
On top of that, you have the largest possible media library available on the planet. >Oh but uhhh choice paralysis!
You're a 50 IQ subhuman Black person coper, pick a game and launch it homie sheesh.
PC is better, because more games across all generations and more ways to play them, but the RTX FPS supershadow 4k 144 hz $1,000-card nonsense is such a dirty meme that it's not even funny. It drags the whole thing down when you're trying to advocate for PC.
>"Exclusives"
Fail >Zune
Fail >Bing
Fail >Windows Vista
Fail >Microsoft Band
Fail >Windows 8
Fail >Windows Phones
Fail >Mixer
Fail >GFWL
Fail >OG Xbox
Fail >360
RROD >Xbox One
Fail >360 Kinect
Fail >Kinect 2.0
Fail >Sea of Theives
Fail >Crackdown 3
Fail >Halo 5
Fail >Halo Infinite
Fail
Reminder they also killed Rare, introduced paid online to online console gaming, want to strip all ownership away from the consumer by making everything digital-only on Xcloud and Gamepass, and all off their exclusives are mtx-riddled pay-to-win garbage like Sea of Thieves, Gears4&5, and Halo 5.
It's also funny that some of you think buying Bethesda is going to save them. Bethesda hasn't made a good game since Skyrim, the rest of their games can't even hit metacritic scores of 80. Let's not also forget they let Bethesda put the Horse Amour DLC on the 360 marketplace back in 2007. If they hadn't done that, microtranstations and other bullshit greedy DLC practices wouldn't even be a thing today.
Microsoft is the most greedy, anti-consumer, monopolistic, disgusting company there is. Stop defending their shit, Ganker.
The SERIES ASS is an shit cucksole designed to scam the consumer renting troony indie games and 14 year old 360 games like goyim cattle.
If you buy and/or support Microsoft in any way, even ironically, you deserve death.
The PS5 is slightly weaker than a 2080TI, this is a fact. Just because games are more stable on PS5 than on PC with "comparable" settings is because of optimization.
Why are you comparing the gpu of the ps5/XSX with an rtx 2070? It will be with an rx 6600 or 6600 xt that has the same architecture and similar performance, I also see that they want to compare the CPU power that is Zen 2 (an r7 3700 custom with underclock) with zen 3 when a ryzen 5 5600 although fewer cores It beats it for being a more efficient and recent architecture, even Intel's 11th gen, which is an architecture recycled over and over again, gives more performance than Zen 2.
>PS4 Pro
locked and loaded >second-hand games bought for $10 or less on discs
you know it brother >gaming laptop with 960M on board
yep, I'm a PC elitist too >TVs and monitors on 1080
perfect size for a perfect setup
God, it's good to be peak intellectual and not falling for scams, pc/concole wars, overpriced gimmicks and traps designed for morons with low self-esteem.
>for the players
Then you find out none of this shit makes a single bit of difference and you've been scammed horribly, you've spent four times the price for fricking shadows and other bullshit you will never actually miss. That's why people get consoles, they just don't fricking care they want something that does the job and doesn't cost as much as a used car.
poorgay cope
>IT DOESNT COUNT!!!! ITS ACTUALLY GOOD!
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
Frick off shill, not going to buy one of your oversized and overprized GPUs
This is from 5 years ago and here are even some videos of some YT shills
>he has to argue ultra when his gaming console is on LOW
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>That's why people get consoles, they just don't fricking care
Yes, we know, and not just about graphics
It doesn't matter... Until it does, as soon as Sony or Microsoft says 8k/4k this, ray tracing that, you'll be shitting on any other platform, claiming your preferred one is the bested and fastest, because the company said so, it's all so tiresome.
Imagine the performance had all those transistors that went to ray tracing been used for standard GPU shit instead.
Wouldn't it be better to just having a dedicated card for ray tracing so you have a choice?
Nvidia wanted to force RT down everyone's throats so they have a feature to brag about and use as a selling point.
I don't even pay that much attention to the lighting, it didn't seem to add much to the experience in cyberpunk the only game I've played that uses the tech everywhere else it was a waste of space.
>dedicated card for ray tracing
Remember physx cards? lol
That was a better fad.
If you had a 3070 and put your old 1070 underneath, you still wouldn't be able to drive RT properly.
Physx was actually cool and still is. Frick Nvidia for driving it into the ground, I miss Ageia.
SPBP.
We've long reached the point of diminishing returns. A PC that costs 4 times as much as a console may have games that look slightly better. But the difference tends to be barely noticeable unless you compare them side by side.
>unless you compare them side by side
It's hilarious that PCkeks have to do this to convince themselves they didn't get scammed because they don't actually notice any of that extra shit while playing. I mean it's literal proof that you wasted your money if you have to go and compare because to your basic perception you can't tell.
>own a console
>still cannot mod your own games
>so braindead you can't even understand the implications of that
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So why'd you get a PS5 then? All the games are still on ps4 with worse graphics.
Worse graphics AND 30 fps. Upgrading from a last gen console to a current gen console is a much more sensible thing to do than upgrading from a last gen GPU to a current gen GPU because it actually makes a huge difference for fairly little money.
>60fps good
>144fps and higher bad
what are diminishing returns. The difference between 30 and 60 fps is massive. The difference between 60 and 144 fps is extremely minor.
diminishing returns is a poorgay cope. you don't know what you're missing out on and you don't want to know either.
Ganker really underestimates how many people just want to have it simple and easy. Me included, I love video games, but I just want to play on a big tv on a couch. If the PS5 version of the game is inferior I'll live with it. I still get to play the game so who cares. Call this cope all you like, but I really don't care to complicate this already expensive and time consuming hobby any further.
>2000+23
>Poorgays still think GPUs and PC gaming is about maxing settings with ultra quality shadows
>Not Consistency and fidelity
>Not VR
>Not resolutions higher than 1080p
>Not playing games that as a baseline are highly demanding
>But LE ULTRA SETTINGS xDD
They hated him because he told them the truth
The go to phrase for morons who got BTFO
Yeah
Console kiddos really are the mega blocks of the gaming industry
I prefer pc because games are only 5% of what I do with it tbh
Well I mean,is true,normal people outside of Ganker doesn't care that much,they just care if the game looks good enough and doesn't wanna spend that much money....that's why you see people here getting mad about this,they spend way more money on their pc's to play the same shit that other people plays for in cheaper console they can't comprehend that...
>That's why people get consoles, they just don't fricking care
So much seethe just to agree with the anon you replied too
>high resolution but low effects settings
yes I know 1440p isn't considered "high" anymore but we went through this bullshit when games jumped to 720 and 1080 (and the consoles couldn't handle it then either) and I thought the lesson had been learned. native res is nice but effects >>> resolution when it comes to actually looking good
oh cool I can see in minute detail how blotchy the shadows are, awesome
This is further proven by the Gotham Knights debacle. When they tried to blame the Series S for their incompetence and diversity hiring practices, I just couldn't stop laughing
The funny part is that Arkham Knight, perhaps the most infamously shit PC port in recent years, was actually fixed very thoroughly and I ran it on gtx960 no problem.
>gtx960
what is your definition of running well?
NTA but I'd say 60fps with good looking fx running at 720p - 1024p (4:3)
alright i guess i can believe it at that resolution
It might be nostalgiagayging but playing games with a shitty 750ti on a Dell 4:3 1280x1024 screen and a shitty keyboard + mouse on Windows 7 just feels like maximum comfy. No LGBT mandatory ads on your desktop, no AAA black female protagonist games supported at all... Just fun games.
>1280x1024 screen
If you have that kind of set up, get yourself a CRT monitor that goes up to 1600x1200.
Stable 30fps at 1440p high (minus textures which I had no VRAM to max out). Could have gotten high 60 at 1080p and lower settings. For a GPU I got as a quick $70 replacement because my previous one blew up, that's pretty damn good, especially considering the shitstorm on PC release.
i first played it on a 970 and it hardly ever reached 60+ at 1080. it mostly sat around 58 and dropped below 30's when destroying environment objects with the batmobile. this was consistent through every single graphical setting.
something must have just been wrong with my pc. it didn't really last too long after that
No, the game really did run like absolute shit at release and for quite a while afterwards. But try it today and it's like a different piece of software.
that was after the patching. i don't even wanna imagine how it was at release
I had a 980ti when it first came out and I couldn't even launch the game. It would bug out and crash in the first cutscene
And when Arkham City launched, getting that game to run on PC legitimately was a hell of logins and verifications that would go wrong half the time.
It also ran better on PC, even at launch, than it did on consoles. The whole “bad PC port” meme is fricking ridiculous. Hasn’t been true since the early 2000s when pc ports were actually just cereal box tier remakes of the console version. Now if you get a console tier release on PC with fixed framerates or low resolutions it’ll be headline news for a decade.
>cereal box tier remakes of the console version
I remember playing Spiderman 2 on PC and being very confused.
Yea I was thinking about that exactly lol. And Nightfire.
I thought the Series S nontroversy was even funnier when I went back to PS2 horror games and noticed the texture work and most especially effects were still really good for such incredibly weak hardware but Gotham Knights couldn't even do some of the most basic shit on a Series X despite being almost 2,000 times more powerful
graphics settings have barely meant shit for a very long time now. this isn't like the 2000s where the difference between low and high was a completely different looking game.
seethe more, PC paypig troony.
>PC paypig troony.
hows that subscription to use your own internet treating you?
>Nvidia is moronic
Yeah, big surprise. But it's not that stupid when you consider that people still buy their shit
>he still thinks LOW means bad
Wake up grandpa, this isn't the 2000s anymore.
Ultra settings have been a meme for like at least a decade now
Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
They refuse to upgrade their monitors
This is console cope, look at this console Black person right here,
>ultra settings is a meme!!!!
No you fricking clown it’s not a meme, it’s real, but you wouldn’t know that because the Pissstation 5 can’t do anything past medium settings.
No, you stupid homosexual, I'm just not underage.
Ultra settings are meme nowadays, don't even try to argue it. The small graphical upgrade you get isn't worth the performance loss at all.
>HDR
>higher fps
>better panel
As you said, if you're fine with 1080p, you don't need to upgrade your gpu. Because if you're going to upgrade you need to buy another monitor as well and that shit is stupid.
I got a LG 27GP850-B. I like it don't get me wrong but there are so many fricking monitors, then you have HDR which is a neat feature but not every HDR is good, then you have the panel, ghosting issues, does it get too smudgy or not and so on.
And the naming conventions are also fricking stupid.
>The [BRAND] 2448933DICK 27 ULTRA is a a 27" monitor from their budget lineup.
A console is currently cheaper than a RTX 4000 series, saves space and is less work.
Games are usually cheaper too.
Like you can get P5R for 20 dollars while even on a Sale, it cost on Steam 40 dollars.
And you can play the same games. Sure, you might not get some detailed settings or +60 fps but it's not that important when the game runs well enough.
Do you know how settings work?
It's not the console's fault devs want to put a billion particle effects in their game
dang that's a lot of cope
Again he is coping and mass replying, you don’t understand how it even works.
You probably have a Pissstation 5 and defending your shifty fricking decision. Kys
>You probably have a Pissstation 5 and defending your shifty fricking decision.
No, I don't have a PS5 and play mostly on PC except for the occasional console exclusive game.
I don't even see why you come to that conclusion, I wrote in that same post that I got a 144Hz monitor. I wouldn't need that if I was playing on console.
Pretending people are just stupid for buying a console when you can't even understand the reasons why they get one in the first place, is just delusional. You don't understand it why someone wouldn't want to spend more money to play the same games, so you just imagine those people must be stupid.
I just like to play my games instead of benchmarking them.
You just said that ultra settings are a meme, you know they are not and you are mostly lying. If not post specs of your “pc” you fricking fraud.
>You just said that ultra settings are a meme
Yes
>you know they are not
No, they are a meme
>and you are mostly lying.
Where?
Show me one fricking game that looks significantly better on Ultra than High/Very High. You can maybe tell minor improvements but nothing that's worth the extra money or less FPS
Post the pc specs fraud.
Why?
You won't even post a game that has Ultra settings worth a shit.
And even if I post my specs, why would it matter?
You're just looking for a reason to dismiss what I said.
>high-end specs
Hypocrite, opinion doesn't count
>not the latest high-end
You didn't spend enough money, opinion doesn't count.
Buying shit like a 4080 is just peak moronation.
You can get an entire build for that money and all you'd get is playing the same games on 4K@Ultra with +60 fps.
It is a meme
I don’t even have a 4090 or a3080 or whatever you Black person. But I can appreciate the ultra settings experience
Oh, so you're the fraud.
Would also explain why you refuse to show any game with Ultra settings worth a shit.
I don't even understand what you're saying with "appreciating ultra settings experience"
Do you just look at Youtube videos where people benchmark?
I’m not fraud kid, I’m far from a fraud. You however are a fraud. I said I don’t have the highest end pc and you refuse to post your specs. You are a fraud and for your other question, go see an eye dr dickhead.
Yes, those people and you are stupid.
lol cope poorgay
>Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
why would you upgrade ? everything new runs on 1080p with mid graphic cards.
>Wouldn't surprise me if most PC players are playing on toasters.
I mean they factually are. Have you seen the steam survey? Not that there's anything wrong with that, muh gwafix are a meme. It's just funny how they all tall like they're running the latest and greatest on their rigs when none of them are.
That survey is also hitting up third world shitholes who shouldn’t have internet.
>3rd world shitholes
That's 70% of the steam playerbase
Cope
Meant for
Oops. Thanks anon.
How about xbox
This game is terribly optimized for consoles though, it's kind of a worse case scenario.
Now compare Callisto Protocol or some other newer titles.
>MUH OPTIMIZATION
frick off moron
Looks almost identical.
get your eyes fixed
Cope more you blind homosexual.
lol
>plus in real life you cannot even see stuff in the distance
I wonder how many people live their whole lives not realizing they need glasses.
>left: SOULLESS
>right: SOUL
>some extra tree's for +$2000
lmfao, not to mention shader compilation stutter
this moron is doubling down
and you morons keep falling for it
at least he didn't give them a (You)
"Fidelity" means "faithfulness" and you need an original to compare the copy to, in order to determine whether the copy is "high fidelity" or not. It makes no fricking sense in the context of a video game world like GTA. What is it being faithful to??? Another case of vidya culture copying terms from other media (e.g. "high-fidelity audio") nonsensically and embarrassingly. I will never stop being mad and my autism will never be soothed.
>What is it being faithful to???
ps3 version
What is Denuvo?
PS5 has no gaems
>my shitty laptop has the power of a ps5
well PS5 is actually running a gtx 1060...
This game probably has the least amount of visible difference between settings
>PC master race
Right doesn't have a hat so it is inferior
>Obsessed with Sony
ngml
>IT'S AS POWERFUL AS A $1500 PC
t. snoys
with $1000 or € you can build something that already exceeds a PS5
>but the ps5 costs 500$ You can only get packages with games that nobody wants at almost $200 more than the price.
The worst part is the Series X and PS5 cost less money COMBINED than that GPU, and that's before you buy the case, PSU, motherboard, RAM, CPU, CPU cooler, case fans, RAM, SSDs, monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, microphone, external DAC and desk.
I bought 15 of the things you listed in 2012 and still use them. The only things I have upgraded is the mobo/cpu 5 years ago and GPU 7 years ago. You are stuck with obsolete tech from day one and cant upgrade at all until a new gen comes out or a marginally better version of the current gen comes out for another $400+. You are coping and you are a third world shitskin poorgay.
Honestly, is there any games outside of the PS4 Slim/Xbox One S/Switch library worth getting that (S)NEED 2000$ worth of computer parts and +5 in autism for troubleshooting?
Only problem I have had with my computer in 16 years is a shitty chink driver for my DAC would blue screen my computer every now and then until I used default windows drivers. PC library is 100x any console. If I want to play a 20+ year old game I can either buy it from GoG/Steam or download it for free, that goes for any game honestly, except for some online games. The only reason to own a console nowadays is if you are poor, dumb, or just don't play many games and are happy playing what consoles have. All that being said there are still a ton of things you can do on a PC other than gaming.
Nearly ever game I play benefits from my 4090. Big graphics games like RDR2 and Spooderman max out my 3440x1440p HDR 175hz OLED with perfect frame pacing. I can actually run RTX games without breaking a sweat. Indie games that are unoptimized as frick have no problems (hell let loose, for example). I’ll be able to play all the RTX remixes no problem. Oh and also DLSS 3 actually works.
>external DAC
Slow down there, audiotroon.
aren't most ggame audio files opus or vorbis or some shit anyways?
That GPU is also 4-5x faster than either game console’s GPU. Cope, seethe, etc.
Yeah except I have to buy every game and then buy a subscription to play them online using my own fricking internet. GPU prices are certainly scummy and scammy though, they're really the only thing that is massively inflated currently.
It's a locked down box sold at a loss running hardware from 6 years ago that has ways of monetizing itself further, of course it costs less.
That GPU will still be useful after the next consoles reach their end of life.
Only poors play on consoles… period no if ands or butts about it. If you ain’t on pc, you are irrelevant and need to Kys tonight.
Consoles are for people too stupid to build their own PC. They buy overpriced prebuilts and complain they run like shit. That being said, overpriced GPUs are for morons.
Overpriced GPUs like the 4090 are the only ones that can run games like the PS5 can. Sure, the PS5 might not technically be as powerful (it's 3090 Ti tier), but optimization really is everything, and the fact is optimizing for each and every PC is so impossible that nobody bothers doing it at all.
>Overpriced GPUs like the 4090 are the only ones that can run games like the PS5 can
I'm not the most tech savvy person around, but I find this hard to believe.
because it's rubbish
Because it's obviously false. Upscaled 4k on medium/low settings at unstable 60fps doesn't require a 4090.
consoles still can't even do 1080p 60fps
works on my machine 😉
>it's 3090 Ti tier
The abject fricking delusion.
>the ps 5 is 3090 ti tier
>the PS5 might not technically be as powerful (it's 3090 Ti tier)
The PS5 is 2070 Super-tier AT BEST, what the frick are you smoking?
holy shit
I have a sex, so I know how fricking hueg that graphics card is
jesus frick is it really that big?
Yeah I just bought one and now I realize I need to wait until next month to find a new 2023 spec’d case with redesigned airflow so I’m not shoving the card up against the walls
I bought a 4090.
imagine if your penis size was half of a whole other man
that's what it's like to be a PC
the absolute fricking PS5 owner delusion ITT
Seethe pchud
PC for everything besides multiplayer games. Super ironic that the great fps games that make PC unique are ruined by cheaters. PUBG, DayZ, escape from tarkov, even arena shooters that don't involve full loot whatsoever
I used to hate Dayz and fell in love with it all over again on Xbox due to M&K support, populated official servers, and zero cheaters
Console cope, again this is console cope to the highest degree.
what? I love PC gaming but its an objective fact that games like Dayz have been plagued and ruined by cheaters. So frick off homosexual
Uber Black person right here
idiot. I'm personally gonna buy some ESP cheats and play escape from tarkov because you deny it
You become what you hate… lmaooo can’t make this shit up. You should eat a shotgun shell the fast way.
Yep im gonna push multiplayer pc gaming further down the shitter than it already is
Oh nooo he is gonna do it… nooo please don’t noooo
Black person I play single player games lmao. BR shit and that fad shit is for lames. Kys.
>he thinks consoles aren't rife with cheaters
Wew, lad. I have bad news for you.
Never met a hacker on console and I have over 10,000 hours on ARK PS4 and DayZ Series X. Last time I saw one was on mario kart and COD WaW on Wii over a decade ago but those were FTL hackers who just made things more fun for the lols
Cheaters on console are rampant. It's just that you consoletards are too moronic to suspect anything.
they're not. Cronus players aren't on fun games like ARK or Dayz.
>console babs in complete denial
>Cheaters on console are rampant
You play on consoles?
Literally the only time I've seen hackers on console is when I was playing Rocket League and Fall Guys with my PC friend. Crossplay was on.
people only use that cronus shit on slop like Warzone.
Ah yes, the infamous "console cheat device" most famously known for being used by the hacker known as Ganker
i never see cheaters what the frick are you going on about?
what games do you play friend? Any full loot or BR type of fps will be crawling with them
Why don't they take the mobile versions of the GPU and sell them with PCI slots for mini itx builds?
How much does that graphics card cost?
Does it matter? You better get one or else you're considered a console gamer
>Does it matter?
Yes it does.
why wouldn't this work?
Oh, it'll work, but it'll likely fill your computer with dust and other particles (depending on your environment), and it won't be as efficient as proper cooling, but it will keep your stuff somewhat cool.
The point of intake case fans is to forcefully direct air inside a closed box. You don't need a large blower fan if one panel is removed anyway, because the interior fans (CPU and GPU coolers) are free to pull air from the entire room anyway.
it does work, I actually used to have that exact model of PC and the CPU uses this godawful passive heatsink that can't keep it cool. Case has like no airflow either which helps.
I remember it would have thermal cutouts constantly playing WoW unless I opened the side up and did exactly that.
>double-slot
Now post the 3 slot version.
PC + Switch + Series X + PS4 for me!
Honestly I've spent most my time on my Switch and Series X lately while PS4 and PC have been relegated to sidecar devices. There's something about that quick resume that is so god damn comfy
>another thread of console kiddies crying about pc gaming
>$450 3060ti shits all over cucksoles with and without upscaling
>its pc so every game you ever owned runs on it
>plus emulators
>plus you can post on 4chud
>plus no need to pay to use your own internet
Even poorBlack folk can play on pc, why even buy a console?
gaming really is just the mental illness hobby at this point, YWNBAW, you will never live down your thousand dollar graphics card, consoles will never be a good investment. have a nice day everyone in this thread. myself included kek
The actual card is tiny.
And yet it needs a heatsink the size of a PSU lmao.
Captcha: D0N0R
>graphics card has a secret compartment to stash your weed in
The PS5 has no right being this big and performing this poorly. Frick Californians.
How are consoles supposed to improve in the future when competitive hardware is THAT bulky?
It's not like MS/Sony have some magic sauce that can compress 4090 performance to a smaller form factor.
I still dont get why desktop cards are so gigabiga large while just by being slingtly weaker the laptop equivalents are paper thin?
It's just big dick energy at this point, nothing more.
>slingtly weaker
bruh laptop 3080 at peak voltage is weaker than desktop 3060. And most laptops run GPU's at gimped voltage which makes the gap even bigger. It's not even close.
>voltage
You mean wattage
yes, my bad
The laptop cards consume less than half the power, contain maybe 60% of the hardware, and run at only 3/4 the speed. It doesn’t sound real but that’s a formula for about 70% of the power of the thicc card. They just design the desktop components to run way ahead of their peak power efficiency in order to get as much performance as possible out of them. You can take a new Ryzen CPU designed to run at 100c all day, a 4090 designed for 400w, cut the power threshold by over 20% for each, and still get 90% of the performance (and way better temps)
>70% of the power of the thicc card
For about 10 minutes bofore the laptop hits 100C and throttles itself. Benchmarks keep forgetting to mention that.
AIO version is thinner not counting the radiator, fits into 2 slots allows use of the second PCIE slot, cards are getting rediculously big these days mohr's law truly is dead expect GPUs the size of entire desktop cases at this rate.
probably because the laptop variants run at double the heat at load
>computers miniaturized only to get large again.
Have we peaked? Is miniaturization over? Bros...
Why would you ever want a console over a PC.
>Muh price!
Budget gaming isn't what it used to be, no.
But if you already have a competent system now, you'll be set for the forseeable future, and you'll never be hardware locked from playing any games that'll realistically get released, especially because games get developed to fit the most widely used hardware setups.
GPU-wise, that's the 1650.
Meanwhile with consoles, you're practically forced to buy a new 400-500$ system every time a new generation rolls around, or multiple systems if there are exclusives.
Speaking of.
>Muh exclusives!
What exclusives? Sony and MS have zero exclusives on their shitboxes, and Sony keeps fricking porting the only worthwhile games they have to PC, and Yuzu exists to play any game on the Switch, better than the Switch can output.
On top of that, you have the largest possible media library available on the planet.
>Oh but uhhh choice paralysis!
You're a 50 IQ subhuman Black person coper, pick a game and launch it homie sheesh.
PC is better, because more games across all generations and more ways to play them, but the RTX FPS supershadow 4k 144 hz $1,000-card nonsense is such a dirty meme that it's not even funny. It drags the whole thing down when you're trying to advocate for PC.
>"Exclusives"
Fail
>Zune
Fail
>Bing
Fail
>Windows Vista
Fail
>Microsoft Band
Fail
>Windows 8
Fail
>Windows Phones
Fail
>Mixer
Fail
>GFWL
Fail
>OG Xbox
Fail
>360
RROD
>Xbox One
Fail
>360 Kinect
Fail
>Kinect 2.0
Fail
>Sea of Theives
Fail
>Crackdown 3
Fail
>Halo 5
Fail
>Halo Infinite
Fail
Reminder they also killed Rare, introduced paid online to online console gaming, want to strip all ownership away from the consumer by making everything digital-only on Xcloud and Gamepass, and all off their exclusives are mtx-riddled pay-to-win garbage like Sea of Thieves, Gears4&5, and Halo 5.
It's also funny that some of you think buying Bethesda is going to save them. Bethesda hasn't made a good game since Skyrim, the rest of their games can't even hit metacritic scores of 80. Let's not also forget they let Bethesda put the Horse Amour DLC on the 360 marketplace back in 2007. If they hadn't done that, microtranstations and other bullshit greedy DLC practices wouldn't even be a thing today.
Microsoft is the most greedy, anti-consumer, monopolistic, disgusting company there is. Stop defending their shit, Ganker.
The SERIES ASS is an shit cucksole designed to scam the consumer renting troony indie games and 14 year old 360 games like goyim cattle.
If you buy and/or support Microsoft in any way, even ironically, you deserve death.
Rare has one of their strongest games right now even on pc.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172620/Sea_of_Thieves/
>multiplayer, Co-Op
not my problem
Console and PC gaming both suck in 2023
The PS5 is slightly weaker than a 2080TI, this is a fact. Just because games are more stable on PS5 than on PC with "comparable" settings is because of optimization.
Reminder, ps5 is the fastest selling console of all time, and now that the supply chain is resolved, it's expected to do 35 million in 2023 alone.
Why are you comparing the gpu of the ps5/XSX with an rtx 2070? It will be with an rx 6600 or 6600 xt that has the same architecture and similar performance, I also see that they want to compare the CPU power that is Zen 2 (an r7 3700 custom with underclock) with zen 3 when a ryzen 5 5600 although fewer cores It beats it for being a more efficient and recent architecture, even Intel's 11th gen, which is an architecture recycled over and over again, gives more performance than Zen 2.
>PS4 Pro
locked and loaded
>second-hand games bought for $10 or less on discs
you know it brother
>gaming laptop with 960M on board
yep, I'm a PC elitist too
>TVs and monitors on 1080
perfect size for a perfect setup
God, it's good to be peak intellectual and not falling for scams, pc/concole wars, overpriced gimmicks and traps designed for morons with low self-esteem.
Why is the PS5 such an eyesore? Who designed that thing?