>great gameplay
>better writing than pathfinder and pillars
>massive ammounts of reactivity and freedom
Why am I supposed to hate this game again?
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>great gameplay. >better writing than pathfinder and pillars. >massive ammounts of reactivity and freedom
It's because the developers hate you
Cope
>the average redditor: left
>the average 4chinner: right
The resemblance is uncanny
Damn Venture Forth sound like some reddit name
the gith looks like Willem Defoe
The default white guy player character is starting to grow on me...
How so
Contempt for your audience is good, especially since gamers are the biggest morons in the entertainment industry
I hate israelites so much its unreal.
this is why everyone hates kotaku and their pedo troons
>They hate me yet give me a good game.
tsundere game dev chan
people on this website don't type like this. please gtfo shills you are so annoying.
>He doesn't talk like me
have a nice day Black person. Played the game expecting it to be complete shit and was surprised that it wasn't, now I look forward to playing it when the full game is released.
>Devs make 1 joke about people playing something which exists IRL in a fantasy game
>Anons cry about it for years
If this is literally the only criticism you have about the game, then you have nothing
You don't. Larian is appro/v/ed and literally /ourguys/. Owltroons and Obsidrones are irrelevant.
name one developer that doesn't treat Ganker as a cesspool of the internet
better yet, name one person who doesn't treat Ganker as a cesspool of the internet
horns must be a b***h to deal with when sleeping
>he doesn't lie on his back, hands casket posed
NGMI
I actually do this kek
Naimals sleep with horns every day. Horns are attached to the skull and filled with blood, so lying on the horn would feel like you laying your forehead directly in the pillow.
They'd have a different approach to beds than we do since the wall would be more of an issue for longer horns than the pillows. You'd jsut sleep at a slight angle
gameplay
Turned based spits in the face of old fans and is dumbed downed trash
writing than pathfinder and pillars
Not even close. Stuff like pillars of eternity and pentiment make this look like amateur hour
ammounts of reactivity and freedom
Literally not even true
I'm getting really tired of this spam
But you play TT D&D in real time? No you don’t. Your just a nostalgia addicted homosexual
>Your just a nostalgia addicted homosexual
>wanting a game that is literally called baldurs gate 3 to be like baldurs gate 1 and 2 makes you the unreasonable one
Holy frick you're stupid
Lmao no of course you can't. Only one is
This
ammounts of reactivity and freedom
>Literally not even true
the other parts of your post are arguable, but you cannot deny that this game gives you freedom.
>can side with the goblins or the tiefling refugees, and the quests are completely different
>goblin camp, which no one would normally even see without a fight is completely developed, with side conversations, characters, etc
>can literally kill every single NPC if you want
>can avoid almost every major fight with dialogue
>almost every dialogue has some class-based or race based dialogue option
Playing as an evil barbarian ended up being an extremely different playtrough than playing as a good paladin.
>Turned based spits in the face of old fans and is dumbed downed trash
It doesn't get more dumbed down than rtwp. Literal autocombat garbage. That shit doesn't belong in crpgs. You want your hack n slash bullshit, play path of exile.
bait
>bait
>prebuff to hell and back
>pierce enemy mages defenses with the 2 or 3 spells that do that
There, I just beat every encounter in baldurs gate 2. Rtwp is garbage.
Not an argument. The reactivity and role playing options, so far, simply are much better than the vast majority of other wrpgs.
to hell and back
enemy mages defenses with the 2 or 3 spells that do that
>There, I just beat every encounter in baldurs gate 2.
This strat fails against bosses like Liches, Beholders, and Dragons.
With those, you need to be tactical: tank with summons, debuff them, set traps, ambush etc.
>This strat fails against bosses like Liches, Beholders, and Dragons.
It doesn't at all
>firkraaginstantlyexplodingintoamillionpieces.png
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That only works if you're overleveled. Try and fight him at like level 11 or 12, and you'll have to be clever.
You'll need to run Lower Defenses, Mastodon, and then Feeblemind just to stop him from instantly wiping your party.
>The reactivity and role playing options, so far, simply are much better than the vast majority of other wrpgs.
I don't know any other rpg that comes even remotely close. BG3 is what Fallout and Baldur's Gate were for rpgs of their generation.
Unless it really drops the ball, it's literally the meme Todd has been selling for 20 years without all of the compromise.
How fricking expensive is this thing?
Pretty expensive. Larian has ballooned in size. Even though BG3 will sell millions, the costs of running a company that size, 400 employees, will be massive. They either need to downsize or hope future projects will be as good and sell as well.
The reason they ballooned is because they have too much money and nowhere to spend it on. What are they going to do after bg3? It's going to make close to half a billion.
In situations where a company can't generate the required rate of return, you payout to the owners. In this case though, Swen is the majority shareholder and might make suboptimal decisions, in terms of capital budgeting, because he finds intrinsic value in the act of making rpg's.
>I don't know any other rpg that comes even remotely close.
Pathfinder Kingmaker and Pathfinder Wraith of the Righteous
Wrath of the Righteous is a buggy mess to this day, talk about reactivity.
>talk about reactivity.
9+ mythic paths
multiple endings
multiple romances
companion commentary on every side quest and main quest
Pure shit. BG3 clears your ruski trash.
Every CRPG is a buggy mess. Its like being janky is a staple of the genre or something.
Not even close.
The ammount of people you can't kill or can't even tell to permanently tell to frick off until the very end of the game makes me feel like I'm playing skyrim. Wrath of the righteous is absolutely awful when it comes to any sort of freedom that goes beyond the confines of a build spreadsheet
Furthermore, the legacy of baldurs gate was already dragged through the mud long before larian got to it. The original creators did it when they abandoned the third game for 3D, instead ending the series with one of the worst dlcs ever. Throne of bhaal is a horrifically written travesty. Wotc ruined it even further by messing with all the lore. And then beamdog mutilated it by grafting on their worthless content. If anything larian might be the ones to set things as right as they can be at this point.
It makes me sick seeing all these throne of bhaal defenders pretending like that was a proper end for baldurs gate.
Don't forget that after all that, WOTC released a 5e adventure path where an elderly canon BG1/2 protag went berserker mode against the last other bhaalspawn, that dude who would teleport when he got spooked or sneezed or something, some hundreds of years later, and they both ultimately die. To say nothing of all the times Minsc and Boo are shoehorned into every fricking thing.
>Throne of bhaal is a horrifically written travesty.
The drop in writing quality between baldurs gate 2 and throne of bhaal will give you whiplash.
Why on earth do throne of bhaal defenders think any of their opinions matter whatsoever. By defending that dlc you might as well be waving around a massive sign saying I'm a massive tasteless dumb frick eating shit 24 by 7. Frick off. It's one saving grace comes in the form of the ending slides, unfortunately 99% of the journey getting their is so poorly written its practically unbelievable
>all this seethe
>no point
that's called cope wienersucker. BG3 is a trash and trying to bring down the classics won't make it better.
>The drop in writing quality between baldurs gate 2 and throne of bhaal will give you whiplash.
What writing quality? It's as generic as they come.
>calling ToB DLC
That's how I know that you're an underage piece of shit. ToB is an expansion pack. I know the terminology fell out of use by the time you were born, but there is no better dead giveaway than this. have a nice day you disingenuous frick.
This. I hope we do get a nice sized expansion for this, though Larian doesn't really do paid new content right? I hope WotC forces them to like how they got them to nix alignment.
It really is incredible how stupid throne of bhaal lovers are. Unfortunately nitpicking one part of a post so that you can ignore everything else that was said is an absolutely pitiful way to argue. You've exposed yourself as underhanded moron.
Throne of bhaal is utter garbage, and like I said earlier, the fact that So many bg3 haters defend ToB just shows how worthless everything they say really is. ToB is the mass effect 3 of the baldurs gate series. Imagine actually defending that shit
What I can't imagine is seething and ranting this hard without having a clue what I'm talking about. I also can't imagine having everyone laugh at me while I'm so assured in my superiority. Couldn't be me I tell ya.
>anime girl reaction image
Yep you're seething. Like I said, ToB is a worthless piece of shit. If it weren't for some of the ending slides it would be 100% worthless. The writing is unbelievably bad. It was an absolutely pitiful way to end one of the best rpg series that will ever be made and it is absolutely disappointing that So many still defend it to this day.
>make femboy drow as a middle-finger to lolth
Can you make femboys in this?
no
Sad.
Might be able to make traps or futa. Mods make anything possible.
>Mods make anything possible.
That's not what I fricking asked.
Yes.
Both lack in reactivity and player agency. WotR has the paths you can choose, sure, but the player can engage problems only how Owlcat allows. You can't kill the troony and orc before act 5, for example. Kingmaker (the better game) was good, but again, lacked reactivity in the way BG3 has. Classes and races in Owlcat's games matter mostly for combat and appearance. For how npc's treat you? Only superficially.
There's no argument. It's me simply pointing out you're a shill. Don't care whether you're right or wrong. Your post isn't natural.
Play a real crpg for once. I've had more difficulty fighting random mooks in OS or BG3 than fighting "toughest" bosses in any rtwp game.
>than fighting "toughest" bosses in any rtwp game.
What difficulty do you play RTWP games on? If it's not Core or higher, then you have no right to complain about the combat.
Typically hard. I don't bother with insane because it just makes the game a total slog instead of challenging.
No, it's true. Real time with pause is trash.
you can frick all of them right? otherwise im not playing the game
WHAT THE HELL ARE CONCENTRATION SPELLS
WHY THE HECK ARE MAGES WEARING ARMOR
WHY DOES EVERY CLASS SEEM TO HAVE MAGIC OR "ABILITIES" THAT MIGHT AS WELL BE MAGIC
WHY IS INTIMIDATION LINKED TO CHARISMA AND NOT STRENTH
WHERE THE HELL DID THIS "WEAVE" LORE COME FROM
WHY ARENT KOBOLDS FOX-DOG THINGS
WHY ARE MY STATS LOCKED AT 16 IN CHARACTER CREATION
Someone already responded to you in the previous thread, moron.
>WHY ARE MY STATS LOCKED AT 16 IN CHARACTER CREATION
They're not. Get +2 to ability score and you'll be able to go to 17.
>WHERE THE HELL DID THIS "WEAVE" LORE COME FROM
weave was a thing even back in AD&D2e you lorelet.
>weave was a thing even back in AD&D2e you lorelet
Really I don't remember it ever being mentioned in the baldurs gate/icewind Dale/planescape games
What about kobolds. Those things used to yip and bark at you and now apparently they are little dragon things?
>in the baldurs gate/icewind Dale/planescape games
they're in one of the books about the gods and mystra
also, you do know the forgotten realms setting predates the infinity engine games right? Not only that but there were older games on the same setting too.
Also kobolds were already scaled dragon things in neverwinter nights. Did you forget deekin?
Also why are you complaining about intimidate when skills weren't even a thing in baldurs gate, and by the time they were a thing (neverwinter nights) intimidate was always based on charisma?
>Really I don't remember it ever being mentioned in the baldurs gate/icewind Dale/planescape games
That's because it wasn't. Planescape doesn't take place in Forgotten Realms anyway, so the Weave isn't necessarily a thing. But I just looked it up and the Weave wasn't really referred to until the lore clusterfrick that was 4th edition, when it became synonymous with magic. So yeah - it was technically there back then, but just not referred to as the way it is in current Forgotten Realms.
The Weave was central to the plot of NWN2.
talking about planescape, I know that the module got abandoned since 3rd edition but how much of the setting still remain? now there's shit like shadowfell and the land of fairies that came out from I don't know where but besides that it seems there's no mention of the planes at all apart from avernum and the abyss
>WHAT THE HELL ARE CONCENTRATION SPELLS
The best addition that 5e made. No more buff stacking homosexualry.
>WHY THE HECK ARE MAGES WEARING ARMOR
They usually aren't unless they specialize for it.
>WHY DOES EVERY CLASS SEEM TO HAVE MAGIC OR "ABILITIES" THAT MIGHT AS WELL BE MAGIC
Not enough, should be more. Casters are still OP.
>WHY IS INTIMIDATION LINKED TO CHARISMA AND NOT STRENTH
Because it always should have been.
>WHERE THE HELL DID THIS "WEAVE" LORE COME FROM
Been a thing since forever.
>WHY ARENT KOBOLDS FOX-DOG THINGS
When the hell were they that?
>WHY ARE MY STATS LOCKED AT 16 IN CHARACTER CREATION
Because 5e reworked attributes. 16 is a lot, 20 is the default cap, going higher than 20 in any attribute is very hard to get.
>>WHY IS INTIMIDATION LINKED TO CHARISMA AND NOT STRENTH
>Because it always should have been.
That's actually moronic. Intimidation irl is a MIX of STR and CHA. But the mix is like 60% STR 40% CHA.
Intimidation doesn't require Strength at all.
If someone like Mike Tyson approached you in an alleyway at night, demanding you give him your wallet or else, you'd shit yourself. Why? Because he's physically STRONGER than you, and thus intimidating.
If you’re intimidating someone as mike Tyson, it really shouldn’t require a check. He is a renowned boxer and physically imposing.
For comparison, a beholder or, say, Strahd wouldn’t need to roll intimidate to menace someone. They would walk into town and people would start running and screaming.
The reason to roll intimidate is to convince (or coerce, rather) someone to do something they wouldn’t naturally. Doesn’t matter if you have bulging muscles and a big sword. If you don’t have anything to back it up, you’d have trouble scaring anyone that wasn’t already basically a non-combatant anyway.
Grog the low charisma barbarian will walk in and scream. Might be good enough to scare low lever warriors and farmers. Grog the high charisma barbarian will detail specifically how he’s going to break you and how it’s gonna hurt. That could even get a nobleman who knows he has bodyguards as muscley as you or a fellow warrior to back down.
If the extent of your attempt to intimidate is "do as I say or I'll beat you up" then sure.
But a sorcerer saying "I will burn you alive" is no less intimidating and has nothing to do with physical strength.
In 5e you can substitute the ability score of a skill check if it makes sense. If you wanted to physically intimidate someone you could roll with strength. This is only in tabletop though.
>Because it always should have been.
Intimidation is too complex to link to a single stat
>When the hell were they that?
They barked at you in baldurs gate
>going higher than 20 in any attribute is very hard to get
Even with items?
>they're in one of the books about the gods and mystra
Must have missed it or forgotten
>Intimidation is too complex to link to a single stat
This applies to all skills in DnD. It's simplified to make things playable.
>Even with items?
Yes.
zoomers > fake boomers
Zoomers ruined everything, there's no place for us old men anymore.
>WHY DOES EVERY CLASS SEEM TO HAVE MAGIC OR "ABILITIES" THAT MIGHT AS WELL BE MAGIC
This is the one that gets me. But Ive just come to accept that nuD&D is zoomershit
>This is the one that gets me. But Ive just come to accept that nuD&D is zoomershit
yeah that's really annoying.
I hate how when you watch the enemy make moves you constantly see them go KABUFF with fancy effects running around autistically. can an archer just fricking draw and loose his arrows? baka
>WHY THE HECK ARE MAGES WEARING ARMOR
If your mage don't wear armor he either is mentally ill, or the system you play written by hack.
mages use magic armor which doesnt stack with physical armor.
All of these are because 5E, frick you
5th edition
sucks
ass
and
is
made
for
morons
no shit
>WHY IS INTIMIDATION LINKED TO CHARISMA AND NOT STRENTH
Technically, the 5e rules don't actually force skill checks to be for a specific ability score, hence part of the reason skill checks always get written out like Arcana (Intelligence) instead of just Arcana. Stuff like Charisma (Investigation) makes a lot of sense, and Strength (Intimidate) is relatively common as well. You'd still add your proficiency the same if you are trained. IIRC this shows up very occasionally in official content as well.
>WHY THE HECK ARE MAGES WEARING ARMOR
Mages wear armour because why wouldn't you?
Take that DnDogshit "mage can't wear armour" shit and shove it up you're ass.
>DnDogshit
Anon? You are aware this is still DnD right? Plus armor is useless for a mage since they're still weak.
It's just yet another attempt to stifle Mage GODS
They took our ability to pump stats. They took our ability to buff ourselves. They buffed every other class in a desperate attempt to compare them to us. They replaced our spells with inferior concentration-requiring ones. And yet, despite all of this, we still come out on top. Mages are, and forever will be, the unchallenged unparalleled GODS of role playing. No ammount of melee weilding ANIMALS and dev meddling will ever change this
moron
Anyone else feel like this game has a chance to be the next really big wrpg that defines the genre for the next decade?
I'm honestly shocked at the ammount of work they've put into this game. Makes stuff like dragon age origins seem like a poor excuse for an rpg
Are the dialogues still fricking trash with barely any dialogue choices?
Other than that and the poor writing I thought the alpha was ok.
>Are the dialogues still fricking trash with barely any dialogue choices?
When was the last time you played? You can kill companions, more options based on skills/traits and different story choices like joining the goblins
probably the most blatant shill post i've seen in a while LOL
Honestly hope so, game comes out literally a day after my birthday now too so I pray it's a pleasant surprise
I've seen these posts on these same formulaic threads before, holy shit larian calm the frick down this is pathetic, motivating me to review bomb your shit since I bought into it when you tried to sell me your shit before, can't refund by the point I realized it was shit.
you can't review bomb with one copy, anon
>I've seen these posts on these same formulaic threads before
Don't project your autism onto others.
I know what you are.
So do I, troon.
I heard they got rid of prepared casting in 5E, thus making everyone a spontaneous caster. If this is true, then what distinguishes a Sorcerer from a Wizard?
You heard incorrectly
Prepared casting still very much exists, you can just prepare it at any time out of combat, making it just 100x better.
I might go Wizard then, considering all of the arcane companions in this game are male for some reason.
Some people feel threated about their favorite rpg getting dethroned.
>woke shit
>cuck romance
>gay devs
That's about it. Game is otherwise pretty solid outside of the usual larian jank.
trannies, white men, gender options, etc etc
what is it about tieflings that just let you know you are about to deal with an obnoxious homosexual?
I'm not interested in this game and it saddens me a bit that Ganker is, but that's life.
Just absolute low common denominator shit as far as isometric RPGs go. Give me a very flawed but soulful game like Kingmaker, Underrail or Pillars of Eternity 1 over this redditcore shit.
>Pillars of Eternity 1
Opinion disregarded.
Quite literally the Most forgettable rpg of all time. That main city, defiance Bay or whatever, was shockingly bad. It was so awful I can't even believe it. It's simply beyond words how mediocre the main city for that game was. And that carries over to the entire game and the dlc. The only memorable part is durance's ramblings
>it was bad because... it was just bad okay!
PoE haters never fail to amuse.
Pillars of Eternity is the clear black sheep from those three games I listed as Larian alternatives, but I remember far more about Pillars of Eternity 1 than I remember about the first and half of the second chapter of either Original Sin games. Plus, I actually finished Pillars of Eternity.
I'm gonna assume you played the Original Sin games co-op with your D&D loving friends and that's why you remember them or something, because that redditcore shit is not worth anyone's time otherwise, let alone memory space.
>boomerRPG-like ISOslop
Ew. Ask me how I know you're from Redditdex.
>I'm not interested in this game
no one cares, buddy
5 (You)'s says otherwise, buddy. But it's ok, I'll leave you to your redditcore game thread. OP was inflammatory and I just bumped the thread by replying likewise.
>OP was inflammatory
Are you okay?
>BG3 is what Fallout and Baldur's Gate were for rpgs of their generation.
It really will be unless the quality drops off a cliff after early access. I really don't understand why Ganker hates this game so much. Even if you hate the characters and their writing larian has given you the freedom to skip it all or kill everyone.
>le kill everyone so the game isn't shit
Such a dumb meme. Outer Worldsgays said the same shit.
>I really don't understand why Ganker hates this game so much.
Because it clearly looks like it might be the best rpg ever made, and that makes a lot of people insecure and upset. They don't want to accept that they their favorite rpg was surpassed and dethroned.
that's called cope wienersucker. BG3 is a trash and trying to bring down the classics won't make it better.
>trash
it seems decent. Gameplay is good. Companions aren't. Halsin seems to be the only real likable one.
Kingmaker is an outright bad game
>he says with his mouth attached to larian's anus
>calls out kingmaker instead of pillars 1
it's insane how moronic Ganker is, like actually hard to believe you're real people
I fricking love WOTR. Kingmaker is shit.
WOTR is a huge downgrade and a big reason for taht is that it appeals to the morons that think Original Sin 1 and 2 are good games and not trash, so it's no surprise you have that opinion.
both wotr and kingmaker are good
It's ok. A huge downgrade, though, as I said.
>owltroons try not to talk about DOS2 challenge
>difficulty:impossible
>main story doesn't grind to halt for multiple in-game months after every main quest
>crusade management is (mildly) less complete dogshit compared to kingdom management
>expanded character customization
>isn't filled with hundreds of pointless trash fights and locations because it was designed with turn-based in mind
>companions are largely less shit
>could actually be finished without mods at launch
>Pillars of Eternity 1
You can't talk all this shit without backing a single word up.
Go on, you have all the time to look up a youtube playthrough and click through it to find your reddit moments, I'm sure somebody else will reply for me when you're back.
Real RPGheads know where to look for when it comes to CRPGs. Soon, brothers. Although they fell for the EA meme too.
>months away from release
make your own threads, Colony Ship-kun
Don't want to. I'll make them when the game properly comes out.
But seeing this thread and Ganker do the :O for this redditcore game depressed me and it heartens me back up a bit to be reminded actual soul is coming out this year as well.
No one cares about your spreadsheet "games" and the character builds you pretend you didn't look up online.
>WOAH ENDLESS BUFFING AND DEBUFFING SO STRATEGIC SO COMPLEX SO FUN!
play an actual strategy game if you want actual good gameplay like that. Preferably one that has multi-player. But you won't, because you're too stupid for those games
Now go back to the dead carcass shithole known as /vrpg/
Naysayers can eat shit. Rtwp sucks dick and I personally liked the first two Baldur's Gates despite it, not because of it. I'm willing to bet a lot of people are of the same mind.
If the rest of the game is even close to as good as what's in the Early Access this will probably be my game of the year, and no amount of you homosexuals whining is going to change that.
>i enjoyed BG2, PS:T, NWN 1 and 2, Kingmaker, WOTR, OS 1 and 2, and have been thoroughly enjoy BG3 EA
>mfw entering this thread
Ganker is contrarian and hates anything that's popular, ignore them
You're sane and have good taste, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
Same
I don't know why people gotta be so tribal all the time
Same, except I never played NWN 1, nor did I ever play NWN 2 OC fully. Only MotB. The only problem I have is with 5th edition being a bit too dumbed down. I wish you could still level skills up and get higher ability scores.
Is there a lot of ice spells? Can i be an ice mage?
>oh look another forced ESG bot thread that archived actual game discussion
>NOT THE HECKING TWITTER SCREENCAP THREAD AIEEEEEEEEEEEE
LarianGODS rule this board.
>Why am I supposed to hate this game again?
There are people who are so terminally online that the only thing they spend the majority of their time on is hating video games. Everything they do and consume online revolves around this.
>finding videos shitting on video games
>going in discords to shit on video games
>posting on Ganker to shit on video games
I'm convinced the majority of people here don't even play video games anymore or if they do, they spend most of their time playing a single multiplayer game like league of legends, some multiplayer shooter like counterstrike, or some MMO.
These people get more enjoyment over games failing than they would playing through an actual enjoyable game. This is the thing that is the most depressing in my mind and I just can't comprehend it. I see it online so often now where there are people who legit get excited when a game comes out and isn't good. It's this weird ouroboros of negativity where they then start to actively seek out the failure of games. They shitpost pre-release for months and shitpost for months after release if anyone enjoys it. It's just so bizarre to me.
I understand shitposting about games is nothing new but it used to actually feel genuine because it came from a place of competitiveness. People shitting on games used to come from a place of "your game sucks, the game I like is better" which was more understandable. Now it's just "your game sucks because all games suck" and it's just sad.
Nah, I just like playing good games and this game is shit. RPGs live and die by their atmosphere and this game has the atmosphere of playing D&D with a unwashed neckbeard, an Indian and a fat whale
It doesn't though.
I don't understand how you guys spend hours and hours each deay cyclically arguing over this game. It's not even really about the game, I never see anyone actually talking about the gameplay or story or characters or whatever, you just argue endlessly over like the concept of this game. It is quite entertaining though.
blablabla gays and trannies galore, not buying, end of story don't reply
i hope larian revisits dragon commander as a setting and just go all in on the waifus and politics.
It's new and people are excited so therefore we hate it.
I swear to god I will slaughter that homie Wyll the instant Mizora so much as hints she'd be open to becoming my patron/wife.
romanceable imoen?
Literally both BG3 and pathfinder are troony tier games.
For some reason modern RPGs are like a magnet for troons. Seriously, why RPGs? I mean there are plenty of other genres.
Fantasy to escape how ugly they are.
Autism leads to troonism
There isn't a single troony character in BG3 unlike Wrath of the Pozz. Larian WON.
Yet. There's bound to be one in the full game.
Source?
There's over 1000 npcs in the game. What are the chances that not a single one of them is a troony? In 2023 game? Don't you think devs will be asking the same question?
IM THE troony NOW
>making a troony character because there aren't any in the base game
Larian won.
Because character creator.
israeli psyop to normalize degeracy
unironically spock
If you stopped playing every video game just because some trannies also played it you'd never play video games again.
NOOOOO STOP THE COUNT
>hidden by your preference
why?
>he didn't buy it on gog
gay
He's straight.
It isn't my image
>Why am I supposed to hate this game again?
Its popular.
>better writing
Any quality in the writing is constrained by the fact that it's in a shitty fricking setting created by visionless morons, and the game is based on a godawful fricking system. FRICK DUNGEONS & DRAGONS AND FRICK 5E THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST MADE SOMETHING ORIGINAL GOD DAMN IT
I will do terrible things just for the chance of getting some drow pussy
My Black person
You forgot to mention tons of diversity, another huge plus
BG3 shills so desperately want to convince me that this game is BASED and that there are no tranies in it unlike in pathfinder, but I know that this is bullshit.
This will be another AAA cash grab with Black folk, trannies and strong women.
But you know what? I do not care, because at least this game is free.
actually I didn't think about it before but there really isn't any trannies in bg3
how strange.
Maybe they'll reveal one of the companions is one
That said, complaining about strong woman is a weird thing considered bg1-2 had
>viconia
>jaheira
>shar teel
and other, less memorable strong women.
should i just wait for full release or is early access worth playin? I just want to play something im bored
go pirate alpha protocol instead
Not him but is Alpha Protocol actually worth playing? I remember hearing it was garbage back when it released
because it was released buggy as shit as all obsidian games are. it's pretty good though so yeah definitely worth playing. especially if you like early 2000s conspiracy stuff. can get easy if you abuse silenced pistol stuff but all rpgs have cheese I guess. can't be bought anymore because of music licensing shit so you have to pirate unless you want to pay out the ass for physical stuff.
it's not nearly bad enough to be "terrible" especially when you can skip it with chain shots.
>when you can skip it with chain shots
If you're gonna skip the gameplay part of a game, might as well just watch on youtube.
Also, it's pretty bad. Specially the stealth.
I'd love to replay but every time I lose interest midway.
>If you're gonna skip the gameplay part of a game, might as well just watch on youtube.
I agree but its an easy out if you're a homosexual like you seem to be.
>Also, it's pretty bad. Specially the stealth.
Literally nothing wrong with it. Plus you could just go Rambo.
alpha protocol has terrible gameplay. Great writing cannot make up for the hours of shit gameplay.
How woke is it?
Pathfinder was insufferably woke, full of trans and blacks.
Is this just as bad?
the worst of it (so far) is the companions are playersexual and the overarching story of the first act is somewhat analogous to a politically contentious real-world issue
pathfinder had 1 trans.
BG 3 has 0 trans so far.
But if having blacks at all is enough to consider it woke, then its woke.
1 is far too many.
It's not too bad, but only act one is out.
>great gameplay
Wrong. Boring, terrible, terribly boring.
>better writing than pathfinder and pillars
Literally the lowest bar you could set.
>massive ammounts of reactivity and freedom
You can save the tieflings, kill the tieflings, or ignore the tieflings! Wow! Three choices!
What other choices could there be in that situation? What games have more?
You can also act like a israelite acts irl and make druids and tieflings fight themselves while you profit
Reminder these are the schizo troony Owlnigs that hate on this game for no reason.
>dig up a corpse to rape
>wtf why am i being persecuted 🙁
You lost
this isn't a competition. I just hate you.
Larian is a shit company averse to good gameplay
Say it.
Shadowheart
itty bitty baby itty bitty boat
I DON'T HABEEB IT
I kneel
I… kneel…
I kneel
Thank you for convincing me not to buy bg3.
>less than two days
Will the Panel from Hell be based or hell?
I'm hoping we're not getting the halfling origin
If the last companion really is an old lady I will be disappointed. I'm coping hard by hoping the bard tiefling will be a companion
Also, if Edwin is in the game I hope they get the same va
We already have Gale, so Edwin companion seems unlikely. Also we really don't need granny origins ffs
>granny origins
This is why I'm really hoping they dropped this character months ago. As a companion it'd be fine but why waste so much time making a full fledged origin for a character 0.0001% of the user base will actually play as. If it is the case, I'll be interested to see who the writer for it is
I'd really like to know who wrote each DOS2 companion and which companions each of those people are writing now
>if Edwin is in the game
I could be remembering wrong but I'm pretty sure it's confirmed that the Mage who's occupying Ramazith's tower is Edwin under an alias.
I think Edwin had possessed the body of a wizard named Larroakan.
Yeah and Larroakan is mentioned in the game as being in Ramazith's tower I believe. Or at the very least he's namedropped as someone who's in Baldur's Gate.
Right. Although it isn't certain. I wouldn't be surprised if Edwin were to make a return like that. I mean, Minsc is still around after being petrified for over a century. This doesn't make me suspend my disbelief anymore than that.
Thoughts on Duergar women?
Aren't they canonically bald?
only the men
Is there a harem route in this game?
it's gunna be real funny when the frog tells you you can't frick others while she sneaks off to another companions tent.
Was Swen being lowkey based and redpilled putting this in?
Is this an extremely subtle vidya blackpill?
Yes but your harem is clingy and hates you and also cucks you despite the prior.
Wonder how many non-origin companions they have left. Helia might have gotten nixed for Halsin and I suspect there is a good chance that Alfira is the new bard/werewolf.
I listened to her song again and noticed how it sounds suspiciously like something a secret werewolf would write. A lot of allusions to the moon and stars which again is strange when you know there was supposed to be a bard werewolf. I could be looking into things too much but it wouldn't surprise me if she is a non-origin companion who fits where Helia did and some character we already know is the new origin.
Or hell they just change her story a little bit and give her a tadpole. Her song just seems really strange to me in that context of there being a werewolf bard.
Of course and this is also possible. Her teacher is actually Helia who isn't dead and Alfira is also a werewolf and will tag along if you bring her teacher with you.
Reminder that Shazamtroons are clinically moronic.
development stopped?
in anon's schizoid fantasies, yes
Where's the proof of troon/woke shit?
Non-binary pronouns option.
Not enough.
>not enough
>implying
all the companions are homosexuals
They're playersexual, if you wanted to get your ass popped by your party members that's on you.
that's not how sexuality works, gay
if you're attracted to anything but the opposite gender then you're a homosexual
>moronic perverts with a warped mind in charge of delineating morality
if my party members are capable of being gays, they're gays simple as
futachads win again
How's the early access? If it's representative of the final game I might buy it now.
Buying it now gets you upgraded to the collectors edition + 3 days early access. Not exclusive to Streamers unlike Obsidian.
it's literally just act 1.
Pirate the EA. Give Swen your shekels if you enjoyed it, or don't. Game's DRM free.
My condolences for being russian/Brazilian. I'll pray for you
Bought the game though.
I demand a goblin gf
You can't port your EA save to post-release versions of the game. Also the fibal game will have more content for Act 1, which is the only act available on the EA. Pre-ordering allows you to start playing July 31st though
So aside from being called they/them what else is nonbinary going to do? Aren't you called genderlessly non gendered...by rank or something 99% of the time?
Probably nothing
Thinking about it honestly, how often is your character referred to by pronouns in any RPG
Very rarely. It's usually just in journal entries and occasionally when it's a cutscene before your character shows up. Even then it's usually by whatever title you have most of the time. It's a frivolous gesture that got them good pr.
it's just lip service. always has been. BG3 goes a mite further with the they/them shtick but it's still just lip service.
Lets be honest now. It's probably only relevant for the romances which is the only thing those people care about.
does it even matter? larian does player sexual shit so that stuff is neutral too.
It must of been a loud enough outcry for them to add it in so yeah I guess it did matter. I do find it funny though when people ask for something like having the pronouns in class descriptions for Pathfinder to match your character you get ridiculed for it. If they're such immersiongays about things you'd think they'd be for it.
Don't you have a Camcam to romance anon?
I meant would it even matter respective to romances. and nobody asked for that shit lmao. just like latinx branding these types of limp wristed homosexuals hop on <current thing> all by themselves.
You kidding? There are tons of caps of them asking for it on reddit and discord. It's probably not a high amount you're right but I bet the mods in those places signal boost it by deleting all dissent.
I wouldn't be surprised if you get some generic MC name and everyone refers to you as Kalach Cha for the entire game regardless of any detail.
>Kalach Cha
So many years ago today...ah if it isn't my foster anon!
>Foster elf parent
It's only fair that I get to marry my elf wife mommyFRICK YOU SHADOW KING FRICK YOU FRICK YOU FRICK YOU FRICK YOU
>200+ posts
>not a single point why the game is bad
never trust Ganker, play it and make up your mind
Will I be able to play a chud?
There isn't a merc system so you'll probably end up solo if it's even possible.
go back to shitting up WOTR threads
We live in a timeline where Solasta is overwhelmingly positive on Steam, normalgays and kids adore 5e no matter how dogshit your game might be.
Solasta was actually good though.
If it wasn't 5E
It's true to form which I respect even if 5e is shit. Hopefully they take their earnings and use it to make something of their own or a game with a different system.
It's decent. It's not outstanding but I had a good time with it.
It warms my heart at least one person got this.
>It's decent. It's not outstanding but I had a good time with it.
Got enough for a buy or a game to ''acquire''?
If you really do have to subject yourself to that drek then at least pirate, over half the classes are paywalled behind DLC packs and the devs seem to give 0 fricks about fixing gamebreaking bugs.
Sail the high seas. Combat's fun but everything else blows dick
Take the GOG discount if you want to try it. It might be better to do that so you can try out all the classes because I think they added some later on in separate campaign DLCs.
Is it? Kinda tempted with the sale
It really fricking isn't, and not just because of 5E
No, it fricking wasn't. It was a buggy mess with a terrible plot, and that's before I even mention the gutted streamlined bastardised version of 5e they implemented as the combat system.
isn't this the game with an unironic journalist mode
The only reason I finished that shitshow was because I played it with friends.
I'm as confused as you are that it's so well-received on Steam.
In the current lore, is Lolth more of a "toughen up, survival of the fittest, pull yourself up" kind of a religion, or did they keep her as an unreasonably evil cartoon? I had thought they were getting rid of those. Is it plausible someone would worship Lolth without just being mandated by plot? Is it plausible for a Lolth based society to even function?
Lolth is just a chud now. Completely unironically. Elves are also troons. ur welcome :^)
Who gives a frick about DnD lore? DnDorks should be shoved in a locker.
Anon asked for current lore. I merely provided :^))
Lolth is still an evil b***h yeah. Don't be one of the thousands who make a "Good Lolth Drow" man. I mean maybe you can stretch it a bit that it's a teenage Drow in a rebellious stage or something. Teenagers in Cheliax in Pathfinder worship Cayden Cailean then grow out of it and go back to Asmodeus when they grow up. You're MC seems to be kinda old though so that won't work.
I don't necessarily want a "good" Drow, but I've always preferred the idea of it just being "the under dark is harsh, you need to be cold to live down here, learn to be strong" type of thing rather than just cartoon edge. But if the world isn't written that way you can't really do it.
>Pathfinder
For trannies
>Pillars
For trannies
>BG3
For trannies
>this thread
For trannies
>Starfield
For based Todd bros, later losers
Would it be dumb to pick Resilient (WIS) as my 2nd feat as a Barbarian? Even if it means I'm stuck at 18 strength? I get raped by WIS spells as Bear Barbarian even in EA
damage>sustain. Get the great weapon master feat and bonk people
>Half-ORC
>Male
>Monk
Simple as.
>STR monk
>Min Maxing homosexual
Yes.
imagine roleplaying
>larian wokeslop
>shit writing
>shit story
>built around savescumming
Eat up goyim
>built around savescumming
moron
>NOOOOOOOOO DON'T BUY THE GAME IT'S HECKING SLOP
KWAB
postslop
I can't wait to see this shit get delayed again so Owlcat can release 3 games in the time it takes them to make 1.
Multiplying a slop won't make it good.
Shadowfeet
sweaty
Kingmaker dwarfs everything Larian has made combined. The other two are pretty much on par tho.
>Snoozemaker
Still haven't finished that game.
no accounting for taste
Kingmaker is without irony or shitpost a bad game
You don't like CRPGs then. Also completely without irony or shitposting.
Kingmaker is not a RPG.
lol? the hell would you call it?
Slop.
I accept your concession.
Pure garbage of the lowest possible caliber hoof crafted for the lowest common denominator
Quality over quantity. Never buying another owlcat game after the absolute fricking over fans received with the abysmal launch of the supposed rpg known as wotr. Never seen a game end as poorly as that one. Unfinished to an absurd degree
Why? It's one of those games I bought forever ago but never played
>although it has a pretty decent story (for the most part), it has absolutely terrible pacing
>went way too hard on RTWP resulting in a bunch of shitty trash encounters
>kingdom management is absolute dogshit
>companions are mostly shit
>the final dungeon is unironically one of the worst designed pieces of shit in the genre, even if you pay the feat tax for it
all it really has going for it is Pathfinder build autism, and WOTR is way better for that
Disappointing. It looked interesting, I just never had time.
WOTR is a significant improvement if you want something to tickle the build autism itch
>taking RPG advice from Larian threads
lets be real you never had a chance to begin with
NTA but its built in the Pathfinder 1e system (obviously) which is notoriously autistic. The game reflects this and is largely more of a virtual build autism simulator than an actual game or RPG.
>Kingmaker dwarfs everything Larian has made combined.
You can't even attack or steal from NPCs. Owlcat games are very on-rails and you can't do anything the developers didn't intend. They are shitty RPGs, people only play them for build complexity, *every* other part of the game is bad or mediocre.
Kingmaker is the only CRPG post 2010 worth paying for. If you're pirate minded there's still only a handful worth playing and Kingmaker mogs them all. Simple as.
Kingmaker is bad to mediocre in every aspect.
>shit encounter design
>shit level design
>shit writing
>shit characters
>shit kingdom management
>shit combat
>shit freedom and reactivity
It's barely an RPG. It gives the player no freedom outside of character building. You can't even attack an NPC if you want to.
Why are you so stuck on the NPC thing lmao. Kingmaker has more RPG flavor than DOS2 by a country mile, let alone specifically CRPG.
It's one of the few, and the top of that pile, yes.
he's "stuck" on it because it's an example of how Kingmaker doesn't really let you DO anything but fight things
>he's
lol shill-kun plz.
yeah huh.
>can't refute the point so resorts to accusations of samegayging
sad
>samegayging
lurk more shill-kun. that's not what those words mean.
There's literally like 9-12 choices for your kingdoms creed. That's just one choice. The Nyrissa shit is one of the most master class cross sections in RPGs. Cope and seethe.
Cope.
>There's literally like 9-12 choices for your kingdoms creed.
Exactly, Owlcat games give you no freedom. At best you get 10 choices in a menu. lmfao that this was your best example. The actual gameplay is on-rails and you can't do anything the developers don't want you to.
As opposed to Baldurs Gate 3, where your options for the entirety of Act 1 are
>go to one of three different paths
As opposed to Baldurs Gate 3, where your options with characters are
>[Diplomacy Check]
>Combat
>[Attack] I don't like you. Die!
even those three different paths have half a dozen ways to approach them
You can keep pretending having fun with Pozzedfinder while LarianGODS will be too busy playing the CRPG of the decade. Owltroons are a blight.
BG3 has an almost infinite number of permutations for how anything can happen. The amount of reactivity is insane.
>What if you did X before Y, but Z died but you also pickpocketed the quest item from Q
No RPG has ever accomplished this before.
>infinite number of permutations for how anything can happen
Holy cope
No that's just my favorite example. Again, the Nyrissa shit is master class.
>Kill Nyrissa
>prank Nyrissa to death ruining the LK game
>team up with Evil Nyrissa to beat LK
>romance good Nyrissa to beat LK
>romance Nyrissa and turn the LK's curse back to him
And all of it has multiple steps that you can do, miss or even deny with all the parts on hand. It's insane how much of a step down WotR is but Kingmaker is genuinely one of the best in the genre.
how can you say that when WOTR's secret ending is way more complex to get
It's not about the complexity of it. not in the sense of "oh be here on this gate with a potato in your pocket looking east on one leg". that's one of their regressions. the nyrissa thing is pure freedom. the areelu deal is a striaght railroad. it's honestly offensive.
Not worth playing at all.
No, it isn't.
>Why are you so stuck on player freedom
Because Owlcat games have none. They aren't RPGs. They aren't anything like tabletop games.
>pozmaker is worth playing
I'll agree that everything outside of combat is mediocre or bad (no player agency outside of conversations, map exploration isn't that fun, lot of shitty dungeons and puzzles, kingdom management, not even a single real city to explore...)
but honestly I think there's something charming about the game that still made me play until the end even though I'm not a minmax autist, the dialogues and characters are pretty mediocre most of the time but they leave a lot of opportunity for role playing, and there's something honest about it that I rarely feel in rpgs nowaday
it's not trying to hard to be serious and prosy to the point of boredom like poe, but it's not layered in irony and clownery like divinity either
I genuinely had fun playing pretending to be a baron so in a way it succeeded as a rpg for me
Kingmaker does have that little touch of sovl that can make it reasonably enjoyable. It's not a good game but I don't dislike it.
That Warhammer game is coming any day now!
Why are you acting like it's somehow been delayed or behind schedule. The game will probably come out in q1 or q2 2024 after having the beta around for about a year. If Larian continues to be run by a bunch of frickups and need to delay their game again then odds are it'll come out after RT gets released.
Larian hasn't delayed the game since announcing the release date, and I doubt they'd have moved the release date up if they weren't confident about being ready to go
>they haven't delayed the game since the last time they delayed the game
How do you delay something without a release date?
Correct. Expecting a delay is just disingenuous shitposting. These kids should be in school.
>in school
good morning sir
I just want to frick a cute goblin, is that too much to ask for?
Who's this Sia wannabe?
My halfling bard.
Jams at every given opportunity and is pretty foul mouthed.
When you first meet party members, your parasites connect.
After that, those party members are drawn to you. As evidenced by Shadowheart going fricking insane and showing up to camp to try and murder you if you deny letting her join you too many times.
You can also knock people unconscious in combat.
Theoretically, if you were to knock Minthara the frick out and avoid killing her, do you think they'd have her track your ass down at camp after a while?
>Shadowheart going insane
Seriously? I never knew this was a thing.
Yes. If you keep refusing her the first time you meet her after the Nautiloid crashes, you'll find her in the druid grove sitting on a rock piddle fricking around with her puzzle box.
She'll sit there for a while waiting to be recruited. If you take too many long rests after meeting her in the druid grove and you don't recruit her, she'll come to camp being driven insane by whispers, commenting that the whispers only quiet down when you're near, so she pulls a knife on you and reasons that you must be the cause and that killing you will make the voices stop.
>Theoretically, if you were to knock Minthara the frick out and avoid killing her, do you think they'd have her track your ass down at camp after a while?
Maybe. But I suspect that whole part of the game was changed around and she'll be met somewhere else or some other way.
>You can also knock people unconscious in combat
Which does not get acknowledged by the game at all. Chances are knocking out is merely a band-aid for the paladin class as far as things go because people are too moronic not to break an oath.
writing than pathfinder and pillars
KWAB
Yeah, neither of them deserve even 50%.
Stick to BG2 grandpa.
BG2 was a great game. But so was DOS2. I wish everyone here wasn't so fake, annoying, and gay.
But bg2 is shit.
ratio
Kingmaker is a legitimately horrible game. The level "design" and encounter "design" are truly, truly awful. Endless trash mobs. The game is a great example of why RTWP sucks
not to mention that DOS2 launched in a good state, while Kingmaker is one of the buggiest games ever released
>DOS2 launched in a good state
let's not go crazy
it functioned until the credits
It's in a completely different league than Owlcat slop. Kingmaker and WOTR are some of the buggiest game launches of all time. Most fresh playthroughs of DOS2 on release would not see any major bugs.
Tiefling are demonspawn and should be killed.
there is nothing wrong with being trans
you WILL look at the pronoun options in character creation
you WILL seethe like the little chudlet you are
you WILL realize your utter impotence in the face of technocapital and realize that our minds, bodies and very culture are not (and have never been) our own
I'll still call you Sir when we cross path 🙂
why are you morons arguing about Pathfinder holy frick people like different things quit being stupid
OP literally started with that bait
>game is shit
>try to drag other games down to put yours in a better light
>wtf why are they talking about other games
He's right. We could be talking about Shadowfeet.
What you need to understand is that a sizable portion of the CRPG playerbase is mentally ill, or social dysfunction to an extreme degree. These people substitute tribalism over games (some of which they haven't played, or last played half a decade ago) for actual social interaction and convictions - so worthless in the real world that they wage entire autistic seethe campaigns shilling online.
You can see them with the people who have a demented hatred for PoE/Josh Sawyer especially. You can see them with the Lariangays who are absolutely obsessed and mindbroken by Owlcat basically releasing 2.5 decent CRPGs in the time it took for BG3 to leave early access. You can see them with the Owlcat shills going on endlessly about P1e being the 'best' system and not the most autistic. You can even see it with the nostalgic boomers who say that BG1-2 are the best CRPGs ever and everything coming after is trash.
These people don't have actual arguments, they instead are driven by having significant parts of their identity wrapped up in a narrative of x product being good. When confronted, they inevitably break down and start using buzzwords or calling you a troony. These creatures are best ignored by the actual non golems on the board, those who enjoy CRPGs as games and not as identity totems to make up for a pathetic psyche and personality.
You're right, CRPGgays are autistic
and that's bad because?
>invite lonely girl to play warhammer with us
>complains that there aren't female space marines
>calls the setting toxic
don't talk to the quiet or lonely ones, they are that way for a reason.
difference between garden variety autism and the demented behavior some of these people display
embarrassing how this thread exists to prove this post right
Obshitdrones can't be right. Especially one with an anime reaction pic.
Kingmaker isn't even a diamond in the rough, the flaws are too deep and many. Aside from the fact that like a quarter of class features and descriptions don't function properly still, the kingdom management+timed nature of everything absolutely ruins any sense of pacing, fun and exploration.
>oh you want to explore x location? too bad, someone shat themselves and you can only resolve this by traveling back to the capital
>oh, you rolled poorly too many times due to literal RNG in kingdom events? go back 6 hours, your game is now over
Kingmaker is the rough in the diamond.
Damn this is an old image back when shadow heart was still super b***hy. It's too bad all the redditors and Gankereditors complained and now we're left with this inferior version of shadowheart.
Would have been so much better seeing her change from that version of herself into the non Shar brainwashed version.
In all fairness she was unnecessarily b***hy at times. Really a good chunk of companions have this b***hy air about them which I'm still not sure if it's a good or bad thing considering you need to work together.
I just want a game like BG1 again is that too much to ask?
no grand linear story with millions of cutscenes, no garbage companions with a trillions of lines of backstory and personal quests to do in order to frick them, no intro that last 5 hours before I can have a little bit of freedom
just give me a vague objective to work toward in 10 lines or less, drop me in the middle of the wilderness and let me do whatever the frick I want
if there's one thig todd howard understood while everybody else failed it's this, too bad his games have garbage gameplay
>ITT
>"You wanna know how I got these fangs?"
because it's woke trash
Source?
Mage's can't wear armor for the same reason that 5E has no, none, nada equivalent to the absolutely based Magus class from Pathfinder.
>but muh eldritch-
It's shit.
Someone who can use a sword, cast magic, and wear armor literally styles on all other characters aesthetically, if not mechanics (Magus is weaker than a pure spellcaster or fighter).
5E Paladin is basically Magus
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't play a War Cleric.
melee clerics are based so no reason not to. frick pallygays.
>I fell in love with a crpg character therefor the game she is, is the best crpg ever made and anyone who disagrees is calling my love an ugly prostitute
>Shadowblonde
>Brightheart
cute
wasn't a real girl, real girls play tyranids
also...
>bitches of battle
>blonde hair
>but black eyebrows still
Odd
blondes dye their eyebrows
>start of Early Access
>Larian: "The companions are all shit and buttholes because they're the evil ones! We want you to try them out, you'll see the good companions later!"
>end of Early Access
>Larian: "Actually we're only releasing like 2 more companions, the evil ones are your party, don't like it too bad lol, thanks for buying!"
How did they get away with literally lying, and nobody, not a single person in any of these threads be they Larian shill or hater calls it out?
unironically enjoy these companions more than all the boomers gate shit like Minsc
Minsc is basically reddit: the character
Karlach is not evil
Halsin is not evil
Minsc is not evil
Jaheira is not evil
Turns out Shadowheart probably isn't evil either. She's just been brainwashed into thinking she's a c**t.
Even the companions we do have right now aren't all evil.
Just from my experience, Wyll isn't evil, Gale doesn't seem evil but who knows. They softened Shadowheart. Astarion may be evil but he's not a mustache twirler and is charming so it takes the bite out of it.
Personally I like the "softened" Shadowheart because it fits her character better, feels like she's larping as something she isn't when she tries to be callous which I think was their intention all along.
>they're merely pretending to be unlikable buttholes
Figures it's the waifugays who instantly leap to the defense.
Shadowheart is literally the only one merely pretending, and it's blatantly obvious she's pretending
also I have wifed Karlach because she is a good wife, she is!
>Figures it's the waifugays who instantly leap to the defense.
Halsin is not a waifu.
Minsc is not a waifu.
Jaheira and Helia are a couple of wrinkled old crones.
Karlach was never once portrayed as evil or shown to be pretending.
I'm starting to think we're not getting Helia. I couldn't imagine a less appealing character if I wanted. Halfling aren't very popilar, and she's fricking old on top of that.
I can imagine it
>small and cute werewolf to make the redditors squee
>minsc is not a waifu
Buttfricking for goodness
>Halsin
>Karlach
>Jaheira
>Minsc
>Shadowheart is "secretly" good
>Helia if she's still in
where's the lie?
instantly destroyed
i am noob to this whole dnd shit, where to even begin, so far i understood dicerolling as in 1d20 decides pretty much anything
>lifting a boulder or detecting a lie or whatever = modifier (which is based on your important stats or i guess ability as you call it here ?)+ RNG (1d20)
if you score higher than the DC you pass
>same concept with hit chance but Armorclass
only thing i don't understand here is weapon profiency, is there an easy explanation for this ?
honestly i want to get into this game, it looks really good, but i kind of feel overwhelmed and concerned about all this information that i have to absorb.
is there a practical approach to learn this stuff without my brain exploding.
You have a proficiency bonus. The proficiency bonus is added to skills and weapon attacks you are proficient in, along with your stat bonus.
You have a proficiency bonus that starts at +2 and scales with your level (not class level). You add it to weapon attacks (if you are proficient in them) and skill checks (if you are trained in them).
It just serves as a scaling stat, which serves to make your character generically more powerful in various things as your level increases, without needing to specifically invest ASIs in it. It makes sense a level 5 PC is just generically "better" at stuff than a level 1, for example.
I hope you can romance or at least frick the bard and the archer tieflings.
this is one of my fears as well, that we only get to frick companions and there are no random thots we get to bang as quest rewards
it took me 3 playthroughs to realize wyll is a companion, that moron kept jumping into a bunch of enemies and dying in his introductory fight.
So Noble origin will have a whole player house/quest in Baldurs Gate rite?
Noble upbringing doesn't mean currently wealthy. One of the most common backgrounds is former noble, nobility of a fallen house or disowned noble. Astarion is a noble and he doesn't get a house.
Swen seems like the kind of lunatic to want every background to have a sidequest
devs said backgrounds will have practically no incidence besides a couple dialogue option here and there, because itt's too much work and they preferred working on their original characters story instead because for some reason they really really want you to play as a pregenerated character in a fricking rpg
>like Shadowheart
>but kind of drawn in to astarion's tormented douche bag charm
if only they'd let me frick both at the same time
play as one and frick the other one
I'm pretty stoked to party with Shadowheart, Astarion, and Minthara. We're going to get into and cause all kinds of shit.
is this from reddit?
?
She dies at my earliest convenience unless I can sell her to slavers or get something out of her death/dismissal.
>Larper stuck with two (three) psychos
bro, at least replace the drow with the bullybait gith
Looks gay
I sure hope there are no homosexual men itt that let male characters into their base camp to frick their harem
>Why am I supposed to hate this game again?
Terrible character creator. No options for big boobs. No boob physics. "Next-gen" btw
what game lets you make women with big boobs thats not a korean mmo?
Conan Exiles
yeah I would support that
We need a overhaul mod to make 5e into something fun, maybe feats each 2 levels and removing artificial mechanics like fighter and weapon skills being limited and tied to rest, fighters aren't mages.
It needs to not be D&D, period.
but then you get dos
Exactly. DOS3 painted D&D would've been great.
dos combat is awful, every fight is exactly the same and its all cheese
If you try and cheese every fight of course it's going to suck, duhhhh
>try
There are death pits next to every boss. I don't have to try.
Then don't use the death pits. Easy!
Good. NTA but the main problem with bg, planescape et al was the shit dnd combat. As a role playing game? Stellar. But dnd rules make combat boring
>pirate beta
>every npc is annoying so i just kill them
>no party members
>disjointed scenes where nothing happens because theres no party dynamic
good psycho simulator
BG3 looks extremely mid and cringe
the selling point of romancable npcs is incredibly cringe in 2023
not sure who is paying you to promote this slop, but they aren't getting their moneys worth
>the selling point of romancable npcs is incredibly cringe in 2023
That's not the selling point.
>every marketer thread on this game has been about NPC romance for the past week
oh yeah?
I haven't seen a SINGLE gameplay webm of casually lurking these threads since the spam picked up.
There is not a SINGLE gameplay webm in this thread.
just like there are never any gameplay clips of owlcat games either, all rpg fans are waifugays
>but wutabout...
wow homosexual, nice job
POST A SINGLE FRICKING WEBM OF THE GAME. DIVOS2 THREADS HAD TONS OF WEBMS BECAUSE IT HAD ACTUAL INTERESTING GAMEPLAY.
POST A SINGLE FRICKING WEBM I DARE YOU.
YOU. CANT. Because this is uninteresting shitslop with a forgotten realms coating.
show one webm of bg1 or 2 combat
you cant
this isint cod kid
>dos2 had tons
wow barrel goes boom how cool!
There is no depth on 5e and if you change it too much WotC and Reddit are going to cry because homebrews ruins the """"balance"""" of their version. It's not Larian's fault.
>It's not Larian's fault.
I don't care stupid homosexual. You're spamming threads for this game so show off the gameplay.
How can you be simultaneously excited for something yet be embarrassed to show it off? KYS
ritualposting doesn't count, it's just schizo shit
ok, that still doesn't mean romance is the selling point. All RPGs that have romances have a large amount of waifugayging. It doesn't mean it's the only reason people play the games.
>that still doesn't mean romance is the selling point
ITS THE ONLY THING homosexual MARKETERS TALK ABOUT IN THESE THREADS. ITS THE ONLY THING SPAMMED ABOUT BY WAIFUhomosexualS. ITS THE ONLY THING. NO GAMEPLAY.
NO. GAMEPLAY.
NO DISCUSSION OF GAME SYSTEMS. ZERO INTEREST IN THE RPG.
JUST WAIFUgayGING AS THE FOCUS THUS THE ONLY SELLING POINT BEING MARKETED.
have a nice day.
>but wutabouuuuuttttt!!!! *crying noises*
have a nice day, but post a gameplay webm first (you won't)
why is it SO HARD for the homosexualS who have been playing this 'beta' for YEARS to post a single fricking WEBM of the game they supposedly LOVE
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
>marketers
take your meds
post some gameplay (you won't, because it looks like actual shit, and your job is to promote the game)
Literally anybody just post some fricking gameplay
why is it so difficult? how can you have a discussion about a game with a playable built and not be able to demonstrate something that you found interesting or enjoyable?
what the frick is wrong with you, actually?
>combat is a miniscule part of rpg
you fricking moron
>what the frick is wrong with you, actually?
says the guy having a meltdown over his own stupidity lmao
Stage one of the owlcattle breakdown t minus one month till total meltdown
>complaints about lack of rpg
>doesnt think playing a character is the main part of rpg
absolute moron
combat is a miniscule part of rpg, what you should be doing is stick to diablo clones
It's DND 5e but with changes so it can work in videogame, what fricking gameplay is there to talk about?
>what fricking gameplay is there to talk about?
its a videogame, so post a webm of the video game in action you stupid homosexual (you won't)
why do you not have any gameplay webms? why do you not have any screenshots of the game systems? why is it 99% waifugayging like
????
at least owlcat game threads had varied discussion of the game systems and minmaxing autism along with waifugayging, the same cannot be said of your homosexual shit, and I noticed you once again posted literal waifutrash and thought you were making a good point
LOL this game sucks, and you can't even post a gameplay webm that makes it seem interesting, because NO SUCH CLIP EXISTS. Not even one.
>zoomzoom thinks RPG means stats
Wait let me guess. A final fantasy game is turn based, right?
we did it team, the schizos are finally breaking
>"mid"
enjoying your summer break, senpai?
FIX THE SHORTSTACKS LARIAN
That's disgusting. They just took the human model and gave it achondroplasia
If you liked 5'0" Sophia Lillis from the DnD movie you're a pedo, boys
I'm not into shortstacks at all so I don't understand, what's wrong with them?
You can't romance them because Larian is based enough to find anything that remotely resembles pedoshit repulsive
They are disgusting midge's
And what are they supposed to be?
Cute + Funny
dead
>these horned monstrosities are supposedly accepted in society in Forgotten Realms.
if they are so accepted why are they all refugees sleeping in tents in the wilderness?
Can I do a purge all non-humans playthrough? I might spare a few half elves.
>5E
only the supreme coom and mods can save this game
Why do you homosexuals always try to start flamewars
class for this feel?
monk, you can roleplay as the guy soon to be dead in the back.
Quivering palm (omoe wa mo shindeiru) is a level 17 open hand monk feature.
NYI.
POST A SINGLE FRICKING GAMEPLAY WEBM.
I DARE YOU.
HOW MANY FRICKING THREADS HAVE YOU MADE WITHOUT A SINGLE FRICKING GAMEPLAY DEMO TO SHOW?
WHAT THE FRICK IS WRONG WITH YOU, ACTUALLY.
It's just solasta but flasher and in metric/gridless
Is this that porn game with all the gay sex positions?
Shadowhearts and her simps
I'm pirating this shit first to see if it has cringe Larian writing. I haven't played DOS games because of it
down, down, down by the river.
This is the ugly race according to Ganker.
yet another waifuhomosexual with a screenshot of some fantasy foid
WHERE IS THE GAMEPLAY????
you know what I don't think I've even seen a screenshot of the character stats screen, so much for your 'its an RPG' whining bullshit
I'm here not to entertain (you).
Hey man thanks for all the bumps, glad you're excited for the game. I'm really looking forward to romancing Karlach 🙂
Literally post a screenshot of a combat log with something interesting happening. You won't.
You can't, because you have never taken such a screenshot and never will, because its probably boring, moronic trash.
>it's 5e, it's supposed to be boring and moronic
Wow!
>more waifugayging
why can't you post some gameplay? Is it because you know its fricking garbage? Feel free to prove me wrong by posting literally anything that looks fun for interesting
see you next thread man, glad you're here with us 🙂
>OP makes claim of 'great gameplay'
>some guy asks for demonstration of the gameplay
>"uhhh actually its a crpg the gameplay isn't it point"
???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ....??????????
where is the gameplay? Just show it
>more waifugayging
at least you understand the ONLY appeal of the game is the very mediocre dating sim element
Game is so shitty that there are shill already talking about mods fixing the shitty system.
>mod
Modbeast, back to xivg with you. I banish thee.
Threadly reminder. Playing games for the story is like eating soup for the spoon.
>Playing games for the story is like eating soup for the spoon.
Do you think I played Arcanum for the gameplay?
>An ancient evil has awakened.
>minmaxer will cry about muh balance in a vidya based on an unbalanced boardgame
Kino
I will romance my brain parasite and NO ONE CAN STOP ME
Once nonnewtonian mods are released, it'll be the perfect game.
Every single problem of BG3 comes from 5e, Larian fricked up by accepting WotC's proposal. It's too late to fix it now.
One line in and I want to strangle you for such shitty shilling.
Every problem of the game would be fixed if it were 3.5 instead of 5e
>Why am I supposed to hate this game again?
170 hours of cutscenes. That alone makes me not even consider to pick up this game.
Because Pathfinder is better
love me some Owlcat games, love me some Larian games, more RPGs for me, simple as