>How much do you charge to kill someone?
Why do people act as if this was some massive point against Niko?
Niko was paid to kill criminals who he often didn’t personally know, or at most had a business relationship with. On top of that, 90% of the people he was paid to kill had it coming in some way. Plus, the reason he was doing these hits in the first place was to support his family.
Darko on the other hand, betrayed and killed his best friends in order to fund a drug habit.
Those two things are not even remotely comparable. There’s no reason to not put a bullet in Darko’s head.
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gta iv has the same le ludonarrative le dissonance problem that TLOU II does, it's best to just ignore it. the themes are heavyhanded anyways. still a great game thoughever
>Darko on the other hand, betrayed and killed his best friends in order to fund a drug habit.
Did he though? By that point they were all murderers who participated in not just battle but massacres. It was a total valid point. Doesn't mean I wouldn't kill him. That's the whole point, whether revenge, a couple dollars or a couple hundred, war, whatever. It's just killing. What's the difference?
The most unrealistic part of GTA IV is the notion that a slav like Niko would have anything resembling empathy or regret over committing atrocities.
Darko straight up tells you one of Niko's friends, Goran, along several others who followed him killed some of Darko's own friends and neighbours.
If that was true, he would have done it for free.
Guy was a lying scumbag.
>h-he was lying
Sounds like cope
Why did he take money for it then?
Sounds like a Judas archetype to me.
Why *wouldn't* he take money for it?
>hate A because he killed people you loved
>find out B wants to kill A
>tell them where A is and get some money to full the PTSD pain with drugs
Two birds one stone
>we are gonna kill these guys you once called friends who helped kill your other friends and neighbors
>do you wanna get paid for it or not be involved at all?
At the end of the day it's still murder. And Niko can cannonically kill a fair share of innocent people as well, like Cherise, Francis (yes, he is innocent) and maybe some other I'm missing.
The strange thing about 4 is that you can down a lot of people and theyre still alive. Niko also has a lot of dialog that the bads arent dead yet. Basically Niko killed the fewest people out of all the pro
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It’s not really that strange. Only assassination targets need to die. This is why most npcs that Niko is hired to kill don’t have a wounded animation and just immediately die when their health reaches zero, and the ones that do have a wounded animation (like the vigilante targets) won’t be registered as killed until you actually finish them off.
Niko’s body count is actually pretty high because out of all the GTA protagonists, he’s the one who’s most frequently hired as a hitman. 80% of the missions in IV are some flavour of assassination mission, afterall. Niko would give Agent 47 a run for his money.
>Cherise
Killing her is optional, and Dwayne actually prefers it if you don’t kill her, since part of him is still hung up on her.
>Francis
Again, optional, but he’s most definitely NOT innocent. He’s thoroughly corrupt and uses Niko as a contract killer, which is in of itself a felony.
Innocent person Niko kills which is unavoidable is Tom Goldberg, and even then, I wouldn’t be surprised if Goldberg did some shady things in his time simply by virtue of being a lawyer.
I'll never understand the massive hard-on people have for Nico, the fact that they couldn't even find a genuine serb to do the voice is enough to completely ruin the character for me.
Maybe this is a non-issue for americans, but it just sounds like shit to anyone even remotely familiar with slavic languages
funny you say that as most of his fanbase consists of russians and other slavs, they basically astroturfed his popularity
All I know is GTA4 > GTA5 and GTA6
>Darko on the other hand, betrayed and killed his best friends in order to fund a drug habit.
one of the people he betrayed had killed Darko's neighbors
>Why do people act as if this was some massive point against Niko?
To show that Niko wasn't so different. Darko's actions affected Niko greatly, but also Niko's actions affected others too. Niko talks big about loyalty but when it comes down to it he's killed almost everyone he has worked with.
I think you’re ignoring that almost everyone Niko worked with betrayed him in some way, with Faustin and Ray Boccino being the only exceptions.
Niko isn’t a saint, but he acknowledges as much, and isn’t a hypocrite. He remains loyal to people who actually stand by him.
Faustin didn't betray Niko and Niko kills him anyway. Quit it with the headcanon.
Faustin was insane, he killed his henchman because of one Niko's line
Faustin treated Niko the best out of any boss. Trusted him to the point he let him near his wife alone and let him protect his daughter. Faustin was just on drugs that Dimitri gave him, but he was right about everything.
Niko had no reason to betray Faustin, it was his fault for listening to Dimitri.
>Faustin treated Niko the best out of any boss
Jon Gravelli treated him the best though. He was friendly, reasonable and honoured his word by using his pull in the government to ship Darko over to Liberty City.
Those old school mobsters are always the most honourable (as honourable as a criminal can get anyway).
That is true, I didn't count Jon for bosses, but if I did you're definitely right. It's telling that Niko himself respected him too.
Faustin screwed up really badly by having Niko kill Petrovich’s son. Dmitri, as much of a scumbag as he is, was right in saying that killing Faustin was the only way that him and Niko were coming out of it alive. As Niko says to Faustin himself, he brought it on himself. Niko didn’t enjoy killing Faustin, but his hand was forced as a consequence of his bad decisions.
Exactly the reason Darko should be spared. Niko is no different from him, and it would be hypocritical of him to kill Darko. Niko came to LC and nearly immediatly started doing hits for anyone who had the money, didn't really care who had it coming or not, dealed drugs and generally wreaked chaos in the city. He betrayed people like Darko, like Faustin for example, who kind of liked Niko.
This doesn't mean he's bad, it's just that living a life full of crime is hard and it makes you a horrible person.
its the right decision but i shot him anyway because i felt like it fit the tone better
Knowing the Yugo war, Niko and his friends probably massacred entire villages of Bosnians and Croats so it's not like they didn't have it coming either.
darko alludes to that as well by saying the squad were by no means good guys, "far from innocent" i think he says.
it's a good mission but people don't seem to want to listen to darko and just mindlessly shoot him.
niko couldn't handle the truth of the end of this mission