To be honest, Lefen seems like a better person than most of the spergy gays who constantly try to "take him down". Most of them just can't handle the bantz.
>Cue all the skitzo videos claiming he is Light/Saddam/Hitler/Stalin again
At this point it is obvious he has the skills to back up his smack talk, they are just all seething mad they can't beat him. If they were in his position, they would be doing the same things Leffen does.
They are just mad, they bad.
Oh frick off, that's not the reason people hate Leffen and you know it. Leffen has been a worthless c**t in the Smash community as far fricking back as 2013 where he was LITERALLY banned from competing in Sweden for his shitty fricking behavior. Fast forward to today and he's still a humongous homosexual who went full simp/white knight for that lying c**t Jisu. His ability at fighting games has nothing to do with the fact that he's an insufferable nordic homosexual
He got banned at 17 years old and stopped being nearly as much of an butthole. The notable people who hate him are either fricking schizophrenic or pedophile apologists so I am solidly team leffen
Remember that time he forced m2k to admit to the world he had a broken dick that is unable to cum, and then proceeded to call himself a hero for humiliating him?
Nah that entire witch-hunt shit with scarf fatass was stupid and he somehow looked like a bigger shithead in it than the lying c**t or Zer0's homosexualass.
theres not much to say, the dude was one of the best smash players, he just change to fighting games now, and he is good. the problem is that he use a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive.
It is just smash bothers autism infecting other fighting games. >This is banned >That is banned >That character is banned >That stage is banned.
It is all abritrarly set rules based on the whims of a few spergs who can't think of a strat to out wit certain characters.
He isn't hated so much because he is busted (he's still really good and a contender for best in the game though).
He is hated because he is not fun to fight against. He is tedious and frustrating. Just an overall bad fighting game character concept.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So it all boils down to mad because bad then. They are just not skilled enough to come up with a good strat. >Its a bad dark souls boss because i can't beat it.
Imagine a souls gay saying shit like this.
10 months ago
Anonymous
sub 90iq mode of thinking
10 months ago
Anonymous
>I can't beat this character, so he is bad
That is glass of water level IQ from you bro. Almost games journo level intellect there.
I mean come the frick on, you sound like a bad 12 year old who just a round on Halo. Screaching like a banshee.
10 months ago
Anonymous
you're a shortsighted fool who can't see beyond your own moronic matrix of thought
10 months ago
Anonymous
Translation >I let a smack talking swe in to my head rent free and can't beat him, even after we set Mad dogg Hax on him. So i will save face by claiming his character pick is somehow unfair and try to deny his clear victory that way.
10 months ago
Anonymous
it should be illegal to be swedish
10 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine a lockout zoner like Guile with insane normals that didn't have to worry about about projectile travel time and has the ability to corner carry from nearly any conversion. Strive's wall splat is also abused by him, and others to be fair, to create easy win scenarios.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Imagine a lockout zoner like Guile with insane normals
That's Guile lmao
Why do spectators brains melt when a zoner is successful
10 months ago
Anonymous
He's a easy hight tier character in any other fighting game, but he's in a grappler video game to boot.
10 months ago
Anonymous
He's absolutely nothing like Guile.
10 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, Guile has to play a patient zoning game mixed with degrees of physical pressure to make the opponent take risks. HC can fricking open you up on his own and convert all of that into amazing damage and easy corner carry, all while still exerting instant screen wide pressure.
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is a moronic analogy because it doesn't touch what makes HC so truly bullshit.
Really it comes down to three things >can make any whiffed move safe so he is nigh untouchable in neutral, on top of great neutral moves in general >full combo into wallbreak + super for post wallbreak knockdown + resource replenishment off literally hit
and most importantly combining those two with >the best offense in the game, with 6 shots to reset pressure with + the ability to make uncharged dusts safe which are a tight reaction check + a fricking FOURTEEN FRAME crossup in his roll he can special cancel into off any normal in his entire pressure sequence
>the problem is that he use a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive
Why the frick would anyone care? If your going to play for money use the most broken character to get the easiest win.
He's not really even broken anymore, at least not moreso than the other top tiers. His playstyle is just anti-fun and miserable to play against. A comparison would be moridoom from MvC3.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It still shouldn't matter. You're there to win, not to look honorable or be a crowd pleaser.
10 months ago
Anonymous
yea , exactly, thats why the crowd was not pleased
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Imagine entering a tournament and playing to win.
God this is peak participation trophy culture on show here.
10 months ago
Anonymous
he is entitled to pick whatever charcter he wants to win.
just as the crowd is entitled to not get hyped while watching you play.
10 months ago
Anonymous
No one likes HC, everyone knows hes broken beyond belief.
Last year an overwatch troony won with HC.
Now we have a pizza face smashgay who wins with HC.
I wonder who will pick HC next year.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why would he fricking care about what the crowd thinks?
10 months ago
Anonymous
i dont know dude, who cares, op just asked why the crowd was like that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I guess he wouldn't, but the conversation is about answering why the crowd wasn't excited. That has been answered.
>he just change to fighting games now, and he is good >he is good
Don't get carried away. He only gets results in Strive, he's nothing in real FGs like Street Fighter and hell, even older Guilty Gears like Xrd.
Leffen is a Smash Bros pro who switched over to traditional fighting games in like 2020 and he's really just an unlikeable c**t, the kind of guy who will pick a top tier and then immediately downplay that character and act like all the success he's having is purely his skill and every loss is the character holding him back.
Unfortunately he's skilled enough and puts in enough practice to consistently do well, and he's picked a character that is miserable to play against and dull as frick to watch so you get this situation where no one likes the player, no one likes the character, and no one likes the matches.
No ones really mad about it, they're just bored because every single major is either someone stomping with identical Happy Chaos combos or a Leo getting destroyed until he does a flash kick into 20 50/50s. This time it was Leffen, last Evo it was Umisho, inbetween it was Tempest and Razzo, Strive tournaments have looked basically identical since season 1 and you have to look to EMEA or Japan to see actual interesting matches.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Then why get mad at some guy. Start yelling at arkshit. Simple as.
10 months ago
Anonymous
People have been mad and yelling at arkshit since the beta, and most of them are capable of being angry at multiple people at once.
10 months ago
Anonymous
True, but why get mad at the winner of the tournament? Sounds like sour grapes from a 3rd party's prospective.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know what to tell you, that's just basic human psychology. People get mad when people they don't like do well.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>when people they don't like do well. >another case of envy
I hate repeat episodes.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you assume people completely disinterested in the outcome of the tournament are mad at the guy who won. What nobody's even told you is that Leffen winning just makes the game look like a joke because outsider fricktards win and nobody actually good at any other games besides Daru is even showing up.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Leffen only won because Guilty Gear players are bad at Guilty Gear and if they're good at Guilty Gear then they did not attend the biggest fgc tournament of the year except the ones who did who don't count
Leffen Derangement Syndrome
10 months ago
Anonymous
He got washed in top 96 at Evo Japan man.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Didn't you read his tweet? The monitors were laggy and the tournament was run by morons
You know it is funny, as this entire post, is just cope over the fact that he is better than the rest and can out play anyone. >WWELLL HHHEE DIIDD NOT UUUSEE THE RIIIGHT CHARRQACCERR SOOOO IT DOOONT COUNNNT
Frick me sore loser does not begin to describe the asshurt.
No he's playing the meta and claiming it's not the meta.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Classic, does he still say Fox loses to other top tiers (while not switching characters himself of course)?
10 months ago
Anonymous
In recent years fox loses to marth and no, leffen actually learned how to play sheik to counter it. He won his most recent set against Zain (the best marth in melee rn) by playing sheik.
So of course your assumed downplaying of leffen is exactly the opposite of what happened.
10 months ago
Anonymous
slurp
10 months ago
Anonymous
fox doesn't lose to marth, zain just buttrapes everyone
theres not much to say, the dude was one of the best smash players, he just change to fighting games now, and he is good. the problem is that he use a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive.
leffen didn't switch, he plays both. He won the last Melee major. FGCucks are just free
An fgc gay would just tell me to git gud when I lose, so it seems they should do the same if they are so unhappy about it. >Youtube will force feed me a video of max talki g about how cool and awesome this is in a day or two
moron Smashbab autist picks the easiest, toppest tier 1 button win character in the game that literally everyone fricking hates because he's so shit to play against and moronicly S Tier, wins, and everyone hates it.
Now, I haven't played GG since AC, but what the frick is happy chaos' deal?
I have seen less juggly characters in much more juggly games.
He looks like his playstyle belongs in Skullgirls or MvC3.
He basically is. He's a character with a tool for almost everything and gets strong pressure and mixups in a game where most of the cast is extremely limited in comparison while also being able to zone.
2 resources, bullets and concentration meter that can be replenished with 2 separate special moves. reload and focus.
1 frame hitscan projectile
Reticle/gun mechanic where there are no H buttons but instead he just pulls out a gun that makes a reticle appear over or near the enemy automatically focusing on the enemy over time as the gun is out.
status effect move that makes the reticle go onto the enemy much faster
Stance that can be cancelled into other specials called steady aim that makes the H shots twice as powerful, launch people if not blocked and guard crush for massive frame advantage(plus enough to do a 26 frame move right after and still be +5 atleast)
One of the only characters that can bring people wall to wall off a K or P button.
Insane meter gain.
2 overdrives that each fill one of the resources bars when used(one super is also basically an RC up close that also make the concentration meter use less of itself}
Can be played pure zoner or pure rushdown at a moments notice because 1 frame projectile lmao
Broken piece of shit but very fun to play if you like being able to do whatever you fricking want.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>1 frame hitscan projectile
That cant be true can it?
Its neddlessly fast as frick but arcsys wouldnt do something as moronic as a 1 frame projectile....would they?
I'm amazed the combo counter ever got past testing. No one who remotely understands fighting games gives two fricks about how many hits a combo has when multihit moves are a thing.
>complaining about one of the few BASED black vidya characters homie you crazy
10 months ago
Anonymous
How is he based? He's a diversity hire who rips off the storyline of both Baiken and Slayer.
10 months ago
Anonymous
it's funny how even in a thread full of delusion and secondaries you can still manage to make a post this fricking dumb that shows you haven't even bothered reading about these characters
Why the frick do people play Strive instead of this masterpiece?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Most new anime fighting game players don't like the snowballing and general oppression of older anime fighting games. That's coincidentally also why Perfects in Strive don't feel like something that'll turn the tide of motivation for losing players. It's mentally less stressful to lose in a game like Strive
It honestly just makes me sad. Xrd was abandoned before getting the finishing touches and 2 other characters added for DBFZ which led to Strive.
Xrd died for the monkey mashing shitfest that is Strive and in return Strive killed the fricking franchise. I really don't know how Arcsys is going to recover from this and regain popularity now that they have no groundwork fans. They alienated both Blazblue and Guilty Gear fans so any future project in either IP is doomed and they have to know that at this point.
10 months ago
Anonymous
They've probably got so many anime IP holders beating a path to their doors to fighting gameify their various IPs that it doesn't really matter to them at the moment
10 months ago
Anonymous
>They alienated both Blazblue and Guilty Gear fans
Strive-exclusive fans are far more numerous and dedicated than original GG fans.
Your franchise isn't for you anymore. Sorry buddy.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Dude the number of strive fans and players to xrd only or +r only players is 10:1, not depending on "groundwork" fans got them what they wanted and more all while they go merc game maker mode and get hired to make games for other people lmao. They do not give a shit.
10 months ago
Anonymous
anon, this is starting to get embarrassing. You seriously need to stop
I don't know shit about Happy Chaos but how the frick does a character like this stay legal in comps? Is his shit actually more punishable and this was just a terrible match up?
>Is his shit actually more punishable and this was just a terrible match up?
No, in fact, the character he was fighting against is the 2nd most broken character in the game and one of the only ones that has tools to approach and challenge HC.
10 months ago
Anonymous
THAT character had counterplay potential?! What the frick, man.
>Cue all the skitzo videos claiming he is Light/Saddam/Hitler/Stalin again
At this point it is obvious he has the skills to back up his smack talk, they are just all seething mad they can't beat him. If they were in his position, they would be doing the same things Leffen does.
They are just mad, they bad.
Have you got your next hit video up yet? May i suggest you compare him to Jack the Ripper and Vlad Teppich next. Perhaps sprinkle in Rasputin, or Misc Pot to finish.
I would argue more so that simultaneous release and information sharing being much easier has removed the competitive handicap that the Japanese players used to have (well that and the skill ceiling for high level play going down in general due to simpler inputs and more forgiving buffer systems in general).
Fricking THIS
I'm not even convinced that little twink is a real troon, just looks like a standad pussy/gay who decided to be trans for attention. He hasn't even vaguely transitioned over the years, clearly doesn't intend to.
No, hes just crestfallen because NR refuses to let mileena and kitana smash their giant obese edenian and outworlder breasts in his mouth like the good ol days. Now they have to fricking wear diapers and talk about like fricking tax relations instead of who has the softest ass.
He's nothing more than a figurehead or whatever are NRS, They trot him out to be the spokesman/voice for MK but I doubt he has anywhere near the control over it people think he still does
I thought he was gonna win skullgirls at least but he dropped out to just focus on sf6. He did pretty well but who knows if he’ll stay on it when mk1 comes out
He won't. To be fair he does have a skillset in that he can find the most busted character on the roster of any fighting game, day one, that lets him easily sweep some no name tourneys. Then like five weeks later either his main gets patched or everybody learns how to counter their moves, he gets bodied, then he deflects by saying the game is "dead" or "irrelevant" and then moves on to the next one. Only games he's consistent at are Moron Kombat and Smash, which should tell you all you need to know. It's a clever grift.
Of course he won't focus SG any more. The nuDevs are actively trying to kill what small handful of players remain and push away longtime casual fans with heavy handed censorship and general anti-fan rhetoric, and he won't focus something that won't make him money or get him attention. Too bad Mike Z fell so hard for his grift that he put his unfitting, whackass fursona into the game against everyone's wishes, now it's just a tribute to a conman.
Of course he won't focus SG any more. The nuDevs are actively trying to kill what small handful of players remain and push away longtime casual fans with heavy handed censorship and general anti-fan rhetoric, and he won't focus something that won't make him money or get him attention. Too bad Mike Z fell so hard for his grift that he put his unfitting, whackass fursona into the game against everyone's wishes, now it's just a tribute to a conman.
Speaking of how was the turnout for the SG tournament at EVO?
It was his attitude that came with the fursuit, if he was just a dorky black guy in a fursuit I don't think anyone would have cared, might have even been endearing, like see even the moron found a place in life
Street Fighter chad here. I watched your top 6 and I'm sorry that happened. Aside from the hour of bs before they started playing Street Fighter, the top 6 was awesome. Im just sorry about Strive's.
It is funny as frick really, he got a skitzo sperg so fricking spazed out, he made Leffen look great and a victim in one video.
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Oh frick off, that's not the reason people hate Leffen and you know it. Leffen has been a worthless c**t in the Smash community as far fricking back as 2013 where he was LITERALLY banned from competing in Sweden for his shitty fricking behavior. Fast forward to today and he's still a humongous homosexual who went full simp/white knight for that lying c**t Jisu. His ability at fighting games has nothing to do with the fact that he's an insufferable nordic homosexual
To be honest, all i have seen is smack talk. and if you want to condemn him for that you big homosexual, condemn all of Ganker including yourself.
Dude. He has a more than 10 years of history on being an complete insufferable homosexual and he wants you to forget about it.
>DARK TRIAD >OH NO HE IS TRYING TO CAST A DEATH NOTE SPELL AT ME
He may be """""insufferable""""" but all it looks like is you are seething fricking mad you can't beat him after he smack talks. You lot come out looking worse, with Hitler and Stalin accusations. Next time pick the least mentally ill smash gay in the room. You may have a better shot.
Remember that time he forced m2k to admit to the world he had a broken dick that is unable to cum, and then proceeded to call himself a hero for humiliating him?
Based, humiliating weaker men is alpha male hours. If anything you saying that makes him look great. Stop sticking weaklings in his path you spastics
I hate that out of all the shit Hax said in that video, it's THIS that got memed to hell and back. Yes, it sounds moronic and edgy, but he is not the one who came up with it. It's literally just the term for a well-established psychological theory of personality. Blame the guy who came up with it but not Hax.
>who doesn't belong in a community
I know its an old comment but u realized strive is OVERFLOWING with trannies and minorities- what exactly are you protecting here
The entire top 8 were the same characters that were in the last two EVOs, everyone is tired of the broken and busted meta. Chaos has been curbstomping half the roster for 2 years with his "nerfs" being slaps on the wrist that doesn't even address the parts of his kit that make him broken. Nagoriyuki and Sol have easily executable TODs on nearly half the roster.
Milia, I-no, Sin and Chipp might as well not even be in the game at this point. They are so bad in the game's rushdown meta that they can't even function in most of their matchups.
Speaking of matchups, it's lovely that this game has been getting consistent updates yet the developers seem to have absolutely no issue with the fact that there are several 1-9 or even 0-10 matchups related to I-no and Chaos. The game has become a sad joke and the only people who play it are Discord kids and trannies and the Japanese abandoned this game over a year ago now.
I mean it with no exaggeration when I say I bet you most of the people in that crowd were just waiting for SF6 to come on and almost none of them even care about Strive.
With more games with great netcode on the market more people are realizing Strive is watered down baby-tier dogshit. Leffen winning Evo is both a testament to that but also hilarious as Strive fans gotta put up with it, pretty happy with the outcome overall.
>The entire top 8 were the same characters that were in the last two EVOs, everyone is tired of the broken and busted meta. Chaos has been curbstomping half the roster for 2 years with his "nerfs" being slaps on the wrist that doesn't even address the parts of his kit that make him broken. Nagoriyuki and Sol have easily executable TODs on nearly half the roster.
This is what Strive is supposed to be, if you want a game where ToD's don't happen and there is actual executional depth and/or heavy life and meter requirements for TOD combos then you picked the wrong game, Strive is an idiot masher.
>1-9 or 0-10 matchups
lol, lmao even, you are right in that the game is a sad joke but it was always a sad joke, we lost literally the entire anime game genre for this clunky garbage
So why are the fighting homosexuals so upset at the smash player? Let me guess, he didn't kiss the twatter ring or something? Cheap meta shit is in every competitive game now a days.
No buddy with any sort of talent in fighting games plays Strive anymore. The community around it has been completely infiltrated and infested with terminally online trannies who don't even play the game but make it a minefield for anyone who isn't in support of current [thing]. The gameplay being complete ass and the online barely functioning and it's a wonder how this game still has a live playerbase.
The combination of Happy Chaos winning 2 EVOs back to back and Leffen being a bad human being will do that.
I know people will want to downplay Leffen's antics and just say "lol seething edgelords" or whatnot. But at least admit that he's really a bad person first.
He is a great player there is no doubting that. Anyone who does is just a clown. Remove the aspect of him being a good player and you're left with one of the most toxic people you have ever known.
You gave up being able to use the >He a bad person
When Hax compared him to Stalin/Hitler and said his twtter account is a death note in his skitzo video
All of you are just looking whining baby's who can't take a bit of smack talk.
Wtf is this israeli logic? Because a crazy person said something crazy that invalidates all grounded criticism of the guy's character and behavior? Peak shitty leffen is not teenage shitter leffen. Nobody gives a shit about a child acting dumb. The unforgivable situation was how he handled smash's metoo drama. He wasn't even involved in any way and he injected himself into the drama and acted like the voice of morality for clout. And as a result of his lies and slander fricking heart of gold autist m2k cried on camera about his mutilated dick and why the lies leffen pushed for attention were biologically impossible. Leffen is the definition of a crybully.
He will be made into a martyr if this is the case. It is best for him to slowly be pushed out of his inner circles, left to just streaming on an inept platform.
It amazes me how that c**t never got the shit kicked out of him for that, and he was still playing smash for awhile.
Who else aside M2K and Zer0 did he try to frick over? I only know of his bullshit from those 2 things. Im guessing he tried going after HBox considering his vitriol towards him.
>All he has on him is making a beta male cry.
It is like you want us to like Leffen even more.
I think the only person being "israeli" here is you with your beta male he said she said bullshit.
Come back at Leffen when you have grown a thicker skin little boy.
Can't handle the bantz? Get the frick out of gaming, take up knitting or some other girly hobby little b***h.
Came in winner's side, first beat NBNHMR in winner's semis, then lost to Leffen and then to NBNHMR in loser's finals.
Honestly Leffen just played extremely well. Kind of sad people can't appreciate it, even if it made his games a bit boring.
HC could get turned into the worst character in the game at this point and people would still be determined to hate him because of the moronic zoning he used to have.
Overall the game is pretty well balanced compared to other fighting games, it just has characters that are more frustrating to fight against than they should be because of how explosive the game is.
I don't think so. People don't really hate on Sol or Nago anymore. HC gets nerfed into the ground and they'll just complain about Leo instead (justifiably so).
Can't blame the tier prostitute for tier whoring, it's an issue with the game and not the player. But if you think HC isn't a problem, then what are his bad match ups?
Unironically show me what Leffen has done that people like Punk, Brianf, Menard, snakeyez haven't done on twitter and real life. I never saw you guys b***h about those characters like you do Leffen, you act like Leffen is on the level of lowtiergod for posting "buff juri haha" on twitter. If you can't back this up then I will assume you're all chimping out because he plays Melee. >hard mode: do not post him 5-0ing Chillen >Nightmare mode: do not post anything to do with the Smash sex pest accusations since he was never accused
A lot of it is a carryover from the early-mid 2010s when he was much more immature and wienery, keep in mind this was also the time most people were getting exposed to the competitve Smash scene for the first time. He's mellowed out considerably since then. He b***hed a lot about Ultimate early on when he was playing but he was ultimately vindicated on that as more and more people are getting fed up with the game.
>more and more people are getting fed up
Only in muttland and only because all but two of the NA players are washed. Smash has an international scene for the first time with Ultimate, and it's still growing this late in it's lifespan. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Melee is doing much worse, but it'll probably get through it too with Ludwig's help
>he was ultimately vindicated on that as more and more people are getting fed up with the game.
SSC23 has the third highest entrance numbers in the entire game's life, in what world?
>when there's a general consensus
Should have sent your best man to kill him, instead you sent a mentally ill Smash gay. Who made him out to be a god among men.
All he does is smack talk and you tried to cancel culture him. Fricking baby.
God you would have been eaten alive in COD lobby 12 years ago.
>trannies spamming the chat when mentally ill man plays top 6 >troon loses >chat loses their shit >mod has to shut down chat
pretty good top 6 for a troony game.
He could pick the worse tier character in the game and they would still be seething mad after he wins.
The smell of desperation on them to make him lose out of pure jealousy and ass shitting rage at his smack talk.
What the frick happened to smack talking right back and not letting it in to your head? FG's used to have a rep of being hard as nails when it come to pre and post fight smack talk. Now i see more harsh words in a bowl of alphabet spaghetti.
If you actually watched it when he turns and faces the crowd people stand up and cheer and applaud
Why does v hate Leffen so much that they bite on fake news?
>every Strive major this year has had a killer top 8 with tons of character variety and tight matches >Evo is literally LEFFEN of all people 3-0'ing everyone with fricking HC
It's truly a shame but at least it all but guarantees they have to just shoot HC in the knees once and for all.
After he got reset and still gave up one more game to his opponent?
No, SF6's top 6 had much tighter and interesting matches than the same old HC sweep Strive has endured for over a year.
SF6 unironically had the best showing of all the games this year at EVO and it's only 2 months into the game's lifespan. Character variety has been quite decent on high competitive level too (even the DLC character Rashid didn't break the game in a P2W manner) so the future is bright for the game.
True though what I guess I mean is that the character variety from CEO and EVO has shown us that as a first version of the game it's relatively well balanced character-wise. System mechanics sure are abit questionable (mostly the drive rush neutral) but overall I'd say the game is in a good place for initial release with no one character outright winning due to super cheese.
How technical is his Jigglypuff?
I feel like what helps Leffen and Armada succeed at other games is that the dexterity and reaction needed to play Fox and Peach at top level is just outright beyond normal human capacity.
But Jigglypuff seems like you just space back air and use your momentum to feint vs actually come in and Rest or grab up throw rest.
Any melee top player can, as evidenced by Leffen. All modern FG games are significantly easier than they were 10-15 years ago, even GG cucked out and it cucked out hard. Being a top melee player is significantly more difficult than being a top player in any current FG game
>Any melee top player can, as evidenced by Leffen
There's like two dozen people in fgc history with the body stat to be able to do the equivalent to what Leffen can
As in most Melee players physically cannot keep up with him on a Newtonian level, let alone mental game.
HBox has average execution, but god-tier fundamentals, mindset, and downloading. He'd do amazing in any mainstage game like Strive and SF6, but flop if he tries anime fighters which are much more technical.
Do white people really watch smelly virgins push buttons while staring at a screen?
This is worse than watching Twitch cuz at least I can see bawds with their breasts out but this is just fat losers.
Frick I hate white people.
>dude try and win evo >okay >wins >WHAT?!?!?! NOT LIKE THAT >you didnt actually win evo
Am I understanding this situation right? This is the same shit as "you didnt beat the game"
Well, look who has the trophy b***hes
Leffen is a canary in the coal mine.
The vision of your future.
You have all these stupid esport fighting games that are desperate to lower the skill ceiling so the Nips/asiatics won't win 100 our of 100 times. So who is the sort of player that benefits from execution being a lower and lower barrier?
At this point, Leffen could pull off a massive achievement in any game, and seething mad homosexuals would find any nitpick to deny him a win.
All because they could not handle a bit of banter.
I did,it should have been brisket!
Just imagine as a xister wins the tourney a giant trans flag comes down with the middle theres bold lettering "trans rights are human rights!" Whereeveryone can see. It could have been a magical political moment, instead some washed up nobody won.
Your obsession with trannies is making you almost as annoying as actual trannies.
You could at least try to be funny about it, but you're not even good at making jokes either. You just live in the constant state of unfunny irony.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Trans rights is no joke anon, seethe and cope.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You're like a brainless twitter freak that can only operate at the very bottom level of ironic humor, never evolving, never attempting to be any funnier, just a repeating loop of the same shit day in and day out.
Just be funny, anonymous. Draw a funny picture, make a joke.
Who even was at the GGST finals this year?
If Leffen won there clearly wasn't much competition to begin with, as much as Strive is a fricking joke anyway?
Daru lost against Leffen? wtf?
I see there's also Churara and Umisho, poor showing for sure but Daru losing against Leffen stin... >HC
ahhh, I see, no wonder, this is like Raven sweeping in early Rev1, what a joke
>devs desperate to get new players
wait wut... devs don't want their game dead? shocking!! call the news we have an emergency this is literally genocide
Why does Leffen have so many dickriders? He's a tier whoring homosexual killing interest in an already dying game. Why are so many people slurping him and running defense? Do they think that him psychically torturing already mentally unstable smashgays makes him not a fricking homosexual?
Because, he is the funnier guy. The last guy you sent at him, had a mental breakdown and made him look like a shining golden god. >Twitter account is a death note >DARK TRIAD >HE BE HITLER AND STALIN
All because he talked smack on some forums 5 years ago. Frick me you are such a baby. You would never survive in a 2010 COD lobby. You be crying to mommy.
Nobody sides with a skitzo bro. It was bad idea to let Hax take a cancel culture shot at him. You only get one bullet and he missed. So Leffen is now off limits.
Well you better come at him with something better than >Well his win did not count because he picked a character i did not like
Because, you are starting to sound like Skitzo Hax.
Try to pick a better anime weapon to use as his twitter account the death note was a fail pick.
Oh and try comparing him to Misc Pot and idi Amin. Those are true DARK TRIAD homies, not some posers like Hitler and Stalin. Or even General Butt Naked. He was a true OG canibalhomie.
>DBFZ gatekept from main stage despite drawing huge crowds that go nuts for it
Spiteful mvcgay organizers will never let this game succeed despite it still going strong almost 6 years later.
It was the literal only option in that space and was attached to a massive IP that hasn't gotten a real fighting game in 10 years, that pull carried hard, not the game.
>Strive cucks are trying to explain away Leffens win as illegitimate without pointing to the issues they've been pretending aren't real for years.
Hysterical.
>FGCgays constantly preaching to adapt and gitgud and PICK A TOP TIER >Leffen picks a top tier >noooooooo you can't just pick Happy Chaos and win this sucks I'm mad
Lmao bunch of hypocritical homosexuals
When you do a dust attack, the universal overhead in the game, there's an orange glow behind the character. That glow doesn't change color with the character color you choose so the theory is that picking a character who is already orange should delay the opponent from recognizing and reacting to the orange glow during the dust startup.
>pro player plays to win because it’s his job and it’s how he makes money >but the match was BORING!
Spoiler alert, homosexuals. They aren’t there to entertain you. They’re there to win. You being entertained or not is just a byproduct of them trying to win. Sorry the most easy win character is boring to watch. Take it up with the devs
melee was never wholly different from standard FGC stuff, they were just a bit younger. Subsequent smash players were really different and super gay, modern anime reminds me a lot of the newer smash crowd.
this is why no one sane likes fighting games. the people who play this genre were the type to use noobtubes and one man army in mw2, only to defend it with >WELL UHHHH ITS IN THE GAME DURRRRR >ITS IN THE GAME SO IT BEING CHEAP MEANS NOTHING, BLAME IT ON THE DEVS DURRRRR
same problem league has. just a trash community.
I'm not sure this says what you think it does. All it indicates is that smash is so shit smashies had to transition to other games while no one else had any desire or reason to play smash. a fricking pokken pro could say the same thing.
I do not think Smash is worth investing any time FGC wise. Constant shut downs, constant sponsors pulling out, there is no real incentive. Not to mention it is not taken serious as other fighting games.
He seeks recognition from the real FGC, nobody seeks recognition from the smash community. the argument you are making is moronic and also applies to any random kusoge that only 20 people play.
I still play jackie chan and I'm world champ, how come nobody will see me in jackie chan when im willing to play SF 6?
Bridget was a sacred seal; the patron saint of traps everywhere. By sacrificing him to the trannies, daisuke unleashed a great and terrible curse that will haunt arc sys games for the rest of time.
So why is it that Guilty Gear fans move onto the newest game even if it's unanimously considered bad, whereas Melee players have the balls to say "No" and stick with the best game in the series?
Melee is a cult that's finally about to die because the eceleb that was keeping it alive lost motivation and decided to milk it for drama. Guilty Gear and normal games thankfully don't have to deal with a leech community like Melee
FGC died in the wake of 09.
They used to play what they wanted to play before that. Once publishers started throwing money around and treating evo and then smaller tournaments as ads the grassroots shriveled up and died.
The majority fans did like Strive but Ganker will never admit that. The ones that stayed on Xrd played exclusively offline in a few scenes. It's the reason wy Xrd's player count pre and post rollback never changed.
Guilty Gear's entire fanbase has always been about saying that you play it instead of ever actually playing. Now that there's a game which people actually play, they seethe endlessly about it.
Lots of Meleegays were actually moving and liking Ultimate for awhile, even playing both.
Too bad 2020 happened and nuked the whole community, both its dignity and credibility. Hilariously, there was only 1 meleegay who was cancelled for all the shit that was going around. Didn't help the DLC characters ended up being fricked up again.
>Didn't help the DLC characters ended up being fricked up again.
Honestly the rate at which they're "fricked up" is pretty exaggerated. Steve is a mess, yeah, but he's nowhere near the untouchable god that Brawl MK or 4 Bayo were. Pyra and Mythra are good, but not overwhelmingly so, and their most prominent player uses them as a cover for bad matchups and mostly uses Cloud. Kazuya and Min Min are more whined about than they are actually played, and Sephiroth and Sora have done jack shit up to this point.
Funnily enough, DLC Pass 1 has pretty much fallen out of relevancy entirely with the only two from it to see massive success (Joker and Terry) falling out of meta due to new developments/waning playerbase
Mainly new blood. It fricking died hard already and Bridget being retconned to a groomed troony killed veteran support hard. JP scene is dead, US scene is the equivalent of a vegetable 2 mins from death.
GG fans didn't move on. Most old Gear fans hate Strive and don't play it. Funny enough, +R is the one that's gotten the boom in new blood even though Xrd was the babified GG before Strive came along. Probably because of rollback + it being toaster friendly.
>even though Xrd was the babified GG before Strive
I think this also played a part. If you're already not playing the current, publisher sponsored thing then you may as well go all the way back to before the dumbing down.
Blazblue CF is also guilty of having extremely underwhelming top 8s and grand finals. The last time Blazblue truly had an outstanding grand finals was back in Chrono Phantasma.
>meleechad tries "real fighting games" and breezes through everyone >FGCucks can't even make it past 0-2 in Melee
Truly Melee is the only real fighting game and FGCels have been coping for decades about it.
>What the frick went so wrong?
Jeez where would one even start with this mess of a game?
Most of the DLC characters are low tier and 2 of them are the worst characters in the game due to their kit being highly restrictive in a meta that encourages characters like Chaos. Of the DLC there is legitimately only 4 characters between the 9 they have released that are worth the cash. 1 of which though is a legacy character that has been retconned into a completely new characters in all but name.
The balance in the game has been stagnant since the mid season 1 patch way back in late 2021 with most changes adding nothing significant. This has led people to just get bored and tired of the same exact shit. It also really doesn't help that such a simple rushdown meta is very samey between matchups which leads to most fights feeling the exact same way because you are essentially just repeating the same basic combos and strategies rather than any significant changeups (outside of the top tiers.)
Online functionality in this game is an actual fricking joke and everyone who was in charge of coding it needs to be fired. There are times on the West coast where it is literally impossible to find matches despite there being 2k+ people online. Hiccups will crash the game in such a way that it won't even tell you, everything freezes. People can literally remote access your private files and in-game data due to a security breach that has been known about since early 2022 that they still have not addressed or patched.
The music has been getting worse since Baiken's release. Whoever is mixing these songs needs to also be fired because I refuse to believe that a song like "The Circle" should ever get past any sort of quality assurance. The amount of post-effects added to the instruments and voice makes the whole thing sound like shit regardless of the actual song's quality.
Them choosing to pander to a bunch of mentally ill people online.
If they are going to release shit like Bedman and Sin in the game without even touching on HC or Nago what in the actual frick is the point of even buying the pass? It is literally more economical to just buy the actual worthwhile characters rather than the whole slot. This is just blatantly bad product planning in my eyes. I'm not asking for every DLC character to be another HC, I am simply asking the characters to be consistently viable.
>People can literally remote access your private files and in-game data due to a security breach that has been known about since early 2022 that they still have not addressed or patched.
What? Like specific directories or anything at all?
You can do anything up to and including closing someone's game. There's an extremely based individual who targets homosexual e-celebs and makes the game unplayable for them the microsecond they start streaming.
>ArcSys fail to update the game in any meaningful way for over a year >HC and Nago keep dominating the scene >pretty much all the Strive pros drop the game >meleegay that nobody likes - who just picked the game up - uses the cheesiest character in the game and beats whoever remains in the Strive scene >everyone considers this the worst EVO final not only this year but for GG overall
True. Strive is just a badly designed mess.
The wallbreak mechanic - which is the big selling point of the game for ArcSys - just made it a terrible fighting game from the ground up.
People can get catapulted out of the stage mere 3 seconds after the start of the match and that in itself encourages highly safe playstyles. Which is why characters like HC, Nago or Ramlethal have been top tier since they appeared in the game with ArcSys not making any attempt to nerf them.
>Ram
Ram lands a stray hit in neutral with her absurd pokes and converts into an accessible 75% wallbreak combo >Chaos
You get shot once, Chaos breaks the wall and proceeds to pressure you with steady aim for ten thousand years with fullscreen hitscan bullets >Nago
You watch someone attempt to ascend the mountain that is nago, guessing right time and time again, only for nago to guess right on the last interaction and win
Playing anyone else but these three just puts you at a disadvantage. All that because ArcSys desperately wanted casual players who hate the idea of being cornered in a fighting game.
He's just an enormous homosexual. Even in smash, when he loses he always whines and makes excuses. And the several prior attempts he's made at real fighting games have all resulted in him quitting and shitting on the games and their players the instant he faces any challenge.
Has a history of being a heel in the scene but has also been temporarily banned for extremely poor sportsmanship (most notably yelling in a fellow competitor who has a hearing aid's ear). IIRC during the #metoo movement happening at the same time as McRib's testimonies before EVO online he pressured fellow high level player Mew2King into revealing he had a botched circumcision to avoid getting incorrectly metoo'd and getting banned from the community. As stated earlier he also jumped on the pressure to get Zer0, a Smash 4 player, metoo'd as well. In general he'll jump at any opportunity to eliminate competition for attention.
Winning in Strive feels like nothing. That's why.
Strive is a game where someone who picked up the game 10 hours ago can beat a 1000 hour GG Addict and reach the highest ranking only to drop back onto floor 6 on a bad day.
It wasn't uncommon to beat a "top tier player" just by picking someone like Ramlethal playing it super safe. There is no depth to the game and therefore not much room to grow.
I thought the FGC was full of people who were mentally strong who can take losses, adapt, have quick reflexes, etc? Where did it all go? What happened to being better than people who don't play fighting games?
I can't feel bad for strive at all after how the GG community went on for years acting like their game was the pinnacle of fighting games. Also all the years of shitting on BB.
Strive is just karma being delivered.
>how the GG community went on for years acting like their game was the pinnacle of fighting games
+R and Xrd are in fact the peak of anime fighters though
every frickin discord anime fighter player says that garbage about whatever game they like and play. Only difference is gggays and trannies, mostly the xrd ones, were 5 times as annoying about it.
I never understood this meme. I've played these games for over 14 years at this point and I've never met a Gear player that shat on Blazblue or vice versa, there's always been overlap. It's only on Ganker where I see this.
NTA but there's a video out there where at some con one GG fan walks up to BB Q&A panel to ask why they're simplifying anime fighters with Blazblue and the dev response was "so that more than you and your 5 friends can play the game". Was quite amusing
And they and every other fighting game dev did that for years and it never worked. But then they actually marketed their worst game yet and it finally sold so they can claim victory.
>And they and every other fighting game dev did that for years and it never worked.
Blazblue performed much better than Guilty Gear did what are you smoking?
10 months ago
Anonymous
This unironically.
10 months ago
Anonymous
post the Raven image screencap talking about the annoying shitheads Xrd players were if you have it. Lost all my fighting game images and need a reminder for them.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Blazblue performed much better than Guilty Gear
Only if you're referring to the period where arcsys didn't even own guilty gear. Because while it did sell better, it was still incredibly niche and left arcsys just as desperate for a mainstream audience. And, like strive, it also had better marketing in the form of an anime.
Also, nice try at ignoring what I actually said. Every dev did this with every franchise they had. Arcsys was doing it with guilty gear too even before strive. Over a decade of every new game being simpler than the last and it never worked. But when one of those games finally sold it's supposed to be proof that dumbing things down was totally the right and necessary move all along. The bad sales before had nothing to do with hardly anyone even knowing the games existed.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Only if you're referring to the period where arcsys didn't even own guilty gear.
Again what are you smoking? Even after they got the rights back it still sold poorly compared to BlazBlue.
>it also had better marketing in the form of an anime.
A yes the brilliant marketting strategy of airing a bad show 5 years after the game released. I'm sure the terrible reviews it got helped boost the sales tons. Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
>Over a decade of every new game being simpler than the last and it never worked.
Except that time it did with BlazBlue. A no name IP becoming more played than a legacy series.
>hardly anyone even knowing the games existed.
Guilty Gear had anime so by your moronic logic it had marketing. Also Xrd appeared on Evo's main stage 3 years in a row. As well as appearing on ESPN. As well as being the best looking fighting game at the time Please name me other animes games that got more attention than this.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Even after they got the rights back it still sold poorly compared to BlazBlue.
Is that why blazblue ended up every bit as much a discord fighter as pre-strive guilty gear? >Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
Honestly, no. The only reason I know about the blazblue one is because I knew multiple weebs in real life who had seen it. None of them had any idea what guilty gear was. >Except that time it did with BlazBlue. A no name IP becoming more played than a legacy series.
Could you possibly be more full of shit? A legacy series? Seriously? Guilty gear was as no name as it gets. Barely clearing a bar that's resting on the ground is neither an accomplishment nor evidence of a winning strategy. Why didn't blazblue do strive numbers? Why didn't xrd? >Also Xrd appeared on Evo's main stage 3 years in a row. As well as appearing on ESPN. As well as being the best looking fighting game at the time
What the frick do you think I'm talking about when I say strive actually had marketing? Between xrd's good showings at evo, positive word of mouth about arcsys as a whole in response to people being mad at capcom, and the enormous mainstream exposure from dbfz, acrsys and guilty gear went from being obscure weeb shit to one of the most well respected fighting game companies and most highly anticipated new games in just the span of a few years. No matter what they released it was going to kick the absolute shit out of everything they had ever made before.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
No it didn't, at most it had an animated trailer but never an anime series.
>braindead TODs >no neutral >two interactions away from death at all times >gimmick functions out the wazoo >characters given shitty designs that the devs are scared to buff because it'll make them broken top tiers or scared to nerf because they'll go from being broken top tiers to decrepit bottom tiers >the whole community on copium for more than a year pushing the idea that the whole game's philosophy will get thrown out and it'll become like previous goober entries >gutted movesets >gutted movement >wallbreaks >positive bonus >damn near every character having the exact same gameplan and playstyle that revolves around being varying levels of rushdown apes >people can remotely crash your game >people can remotely edit your r-code >no actual ranked queue >shitty lobby system >meta has been stagnant for an entire year >half the viewers of sfv at evo despite the inflated casual entrants >evo won by a 21er overwatch troony >evo won by a smashie >troony bridget >tournaments end with the top 2 trannies making out on camera >dead in japan
GROOMER QUEERS -SOIVE-
>shitty lobby system
You forgot to mention that one random guy made a third party software that makes the network connections and lobbies run way smoother and even after an Arc Sys patch, they still haven't made anything as good. Literal SFV flashbacks with this shit.
>people can remotely crash your game >people can remotely edit your r-code
This is the most inexcusable shit right here, should be enough for a class action lawsuit. The game doesn't function as advertised and has awful security.
>People always claiming that modern fighting games are superior to older games because they're more balanced >Nearly every single grand finals was a mirror match
I don't use social media, how is everyone coping with the fact that the one supposed saving grace of current games was shown to be a sham in a live event?
Do you want a better answer? Aside from UMVC3 meta, most of those tournaments had a balanced amount of roster representation. The shitpost image doesn't negate the fact that most of those games have decently balanced rosters.
>I call it hard truth >While ignoring the actual truth
Enjoy your mirrors, stay coping.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Where are the other mirror characters in those brackets that aren't UMVC3? Tekken 7 post-Leroy EVO Japan tournament was a fluke. It's usually only tag games that suffer from strong meta picks.
Looks like the mystery has been solved, Jack the Rippers true identity is revealed.
It is Leffen. He used his Bankai twitter account to channel the DARK TRIAD in to making all the other prissy FG b***hes asshurt.
kek. I respect his skill after watching him in DBFZ so I wasn't really surprised to see him come out on top in strive. Happy chaos seems strong but considering he was the only one in top 8 I can only assume he isn't as busted as people make him out to be.
I most definitely agree that Tekken fans are elitist when it comes to people playing, it's Honestly not up for debate. But that doesn't stop me being amused when people pick up the game expecting to know everything only to drop it when they aren't as good as they thought they'd be.
I hope people realize how fricking trash sf6 is too. There's nothing cool, hype or skillful about the drive mechanics and it just makes the game campy as frick as two morons try to out-random each other with the green paint shit.
>smash kid gets bored and picks your average fightanslop >destroys everyone and wins the biggest tourney
fgc gays, i.... >"NOOOO BUT HE USED LE OP CHARACTER"
shitter cope, you can use it too
why does Ganker get so angry whenever someone is good at games, there is literally dedicated schizos trying to prove any fps pro is a hacker. very sad.
I've seen Leffen's tweets get automatically recommended on Twitter and the guy seems like he has his head so far up his own ass. Honestly, that's not all that different from western FGC pros but people also hate him because he's from Smash.
Because he's fair and balanced. FGCucks just can't accept that Smash was always better and more complex, and that they've been fighting a losing battle for over two decades
Happy chaos is a resource character so you can't just brainlessly mash with him. But in a way that makes him even more broken in a game like strive because he has cheap shit and requires a functioning brain.
He's meant to be balanced out by demanding high levels of skill and practice to master, but this is still Strive, so that level of skill isn't actually that high
Funny given who won, but it's the same reason Mash Ultimate top 8s aren't 8 steves. Actually good players are disgusted by how broken HC is and don't use him, and he's not so overpowered that someone who drowns in pools can win grands with him.
Leffen is at least half decent as strive, so playing HC catapults him to the trophy.
Pic related was the last Guilty Gear I played seriously because I was always more of a Street Fighter/DoA guy. Would I like Strive or should I just vibe with what I know (still own this game).
Xrd is pretty much the spiritual successor of #reload
Thanks. I'll check those out. Is Strive so fundamentally different that it's more like it's own thing, unlike KOF/SF/DoA where I can take previous game knowledge and generally apply it to the most recent iteration?
People really gloss over Leffen being a vile piece of shit, who intentionally and systematically bullies people, just because he's good at pressing buttons in a video game.
But Hikari's championship in DBFZ is "unearned", because he used wrong pronouns on social media.
You chose this future.
Strive was going to be shit and you still bought it and played it even though people warned you.
You deserve the future you chose.
No-one likes happy chaos.
no one likes Leffen*
To be honest, Lefen seems like a better person than most of the spergy gays who constantly try to "take him down". Most of them just can't handle the bantz.
found the tier 3 leffen paypig
Careful, My twitter account is a death note man.
Oh frick off, that's not the reason people hate Leffen and you know it. Leffen has been a worthless c**t in the Smash community as far fricking back as 2013 where he was LITERALLY banned from competing in Sweden for his shitty fricking behavior. Fast forward to today and he's still a humongous homosexual who went full simp/white knight for that lying c**t Jisu. His ability at fighting games has nothing to do with the fact that he's an insufferable nordic homosexual
He got banned at 17 years old and stopped being nearly as much of an butthole. The notable people who hate him are either fricking schizophrenic or pedophile apologists so I am solidly team leffen
Wait wait
the reason people shit on leffen is because he said its bad to sext 15 year olds?
Yup, never go against the cabal.
No that is why we shit on him. Most of the outside world just finds his whining annoying
Frick off technicals. You idiotic prick.
Dude. He has a more than 10 years of history on being an complete insufferable homosexual and he wants you to forget about it.
Remember that time he forced m2k to admit to the world he had a broken dick that is unable to cum, and then proceeded to call himself a hero for humiliating him?
Nah that entire witch-hunt shit with scarf fatass was stupid and he somehow looked like a bigger shithead in it than the lying c**t or Zer0's homosexualass.
shit crosses the line of bantz when you're gossiping and spreading rumors like a giggling teenage girl
Yeah this ain't true. He was cheered for last year when he ws playing Zato. It's solely happy chaos
And Happy Gilmore?
I didnt watch it, did Sonic fox win or something?
worse, Leffen, the Smash Bros guy.
Quick Rushdown? I dont know shit about FGC.
theres not much to say, the dude was one of the best smash players, he just change to fighting games now, and he is good. the problem is that he use a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive.
>a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive.
isn't this the developer fault tho?
its was busted at release, now not so much at least not much more busted than other top tiers.
it just has the reputation, and the hate for it stayed
It is just smash bothers autism infecting other fighting games.
>This is banned
>That is banned
>That character is banned
>That stage is banned.
It is all abritrarly set rules based on the whims of a few spergs who can't think of a strat to out wit certain characters.
He isn't hated so much because he is busted (he's still really good and a contender for best in the game though).
He is hated because he is not fun to fight against. He is tedious and frustrating. Just an overall bad fighting game character concept.
So it all boils down to mad because bad then. They are just not skilled enough to come up with a good strat.
>Its a bad dark souls boss because i can't beat it.
Imagine a souls gay saying shit like this.
sub 90iq mode of thinking
>I can't beat this character, so he is bad
That is glass of water level IQ from you bro. Almost games journo level intellect there.
I mean come the frick on, you sound like a bad 12 year old who just a round on Halo. Screaching like a banshee.
you're a shortsighted fool who can't see beyond your own moronic matrix of thought
Translation
>I let a smack talking swe in to my head rent free and can't beat him, even after we set Mad dogg Hax on him. So i will save face by claiming his character pick is somehow unfair and try to deny his clear victory that way.
it should be illegal to be swedish
Imagine a lockout zoner like Guile with insane normals that didn't have to worry about about projectile travel time and has the ability to corner carry from nearly any conversion. Strive's wall splat is also abused by him, and others to be fair, to create easy win scenarios.
>Imagine a lockout zoner like Guile with insane normals
That's Guile lmao
Why do spectators brains melt when a zoner is successful
He's a easy hight tier character in any other fighting game, but he's in a grappler video game to boot.
He's absolutely nothing like Guile.
yeah, Guile has to play a patient zoning game mixed with degrees of physical pressure to make the opponent take risks. HC can fricking open you up on his own and convert all of that into amazing damage and easy corner carry, all while still exerting instant screen wide pressure.
This is a moronic analogy because it doesn't touch what makes HC so truly bullshit.
Really it comes down to three things
>can make any whiffed move safe so he is nigh untouchable in neutral, on top of great neutral moves in general
>full combo into wallbreak + super for post wallbreak knockdown + resource replenishment off literally hit
and most importantly combining those two with
>the best offense in the game, with 6 shots to reset pressure with + the ability to make uncharged dusts safe which are a tight reaction check + a fricking FOURTEEN FRAME crossup in his roll he can special cancel into off any normal in his entire pressure sequence
but Smash already is a fighting game
No, the problem is that Leffen is a subhuman sw*dish Black person that acts like an autistic manchild literally 100% of the time.
>Black person that acts like an autistic manchild literally 100% of the time.
Isn't that literally every fighting game player?
>the problem is that he use a character thats hated a lot among the players of strive
Why the frick would anyone care? If your going to play for money use the most broken character to get the easiest win.
He's not really even broken anymore, at least not moreso than the other top tiers. His playstyle is just anti-fun and miserable to play against. A comparison would be moridoom from MvC3.
It still shouldn't matter. You're there to win, not to look honorable or be a crowd pleaser.
yea , exactly, thats why the crowd was not pleased
>Imagine entering a tournament and playing to win.
God this is peak participation trophy culture on show here.
he is entitled to pick whatever charcter he wants to win.
just as the crowd is entitled to not get hyped while watching you play.
No one likes HC, everyone knows hes broken beyond belief.
Last year an overwatch troony won with HC.
Now we have a pizza face smashgay who wins with HC.
I wonder who will pick HC next year.
Why would he fricking care about what the crowd thinks?
i dont know dude, who cares, op just asked why the crowd was like that.
I guess he wouldn't, but the conversation is about answering why the crowd wasn't excited. That has been answered.
he was a kof player in the past, he was not exclusively smash
it's just that nobody cares about kof lol
>he just change to fighting games now, and he is good
>he is good
Don't get carried away. He only gets results in Strive, he's nothing in real FGs like Street Fighter and hell, even older Guilty Gears like Xrd.
Why are FGCels coping this hard? You lost Meleechads dominated you like always.
Leffen is a Smash Bros pro who switched over to traditional fighting games in like 2020 and he's really just an unlikeable c**t, the kind of guy who will pick a top tier and then immediately downplay that character and act like all the success he's having is purely his skill and every loss is the character holding him back.
Unfortunately he's skilled enough and puts in enough practice to consistently do well, and he's picked a character that is miserable to play against and dull as frick to watch so you get this situation where no one likes the player, no one likes the character, and no one likes the matches.
>getting this mad over losing to a top tier character/"the meta"
No ones really mad about it, they're just bored because every single major is either someone stomping with identical Happy Chaos combos or a Leo getting destroyed until he does a flash kick into 20 50/50s. This time it was Leffen, last Evo it was Umisho, inbetween it was Tempest and Razzo, Strive tournaments have looked basically identical since season 1 and you have to look to EMEA or Japan to see actual interesting matches.
Then why get mad at some guy. Start yelling at arkshit. Simple as.
People have been mad and yelling at arkshit since the beta, and most of them are capable of being angry at multiple people at once.
True, but why get mad at the winner of the tournament? Sounds like sour grapes from a 3rd party's prospective.
I don't know what to tell you, that's just basic human psychology. People get mad when people they don't like do well.
>when people they don't like do well.
>another case of envy
I hate repeat episodes.
Why do you assume people completely disinterested in the outcome of the tournament are mad at the guy who won. What nobody's even told you is that Leffen winning just makes the game look like a joke because outsider fricktards win and nobody actually good at any other games besides Daru is even showing up.
>Leffen only won because Guilty Gear players are bad at Guilty Gear and if they're good at Guilty Gear then they did not attend the biggest fgc tournament of the year except the ones who did who don't count
Leffen Derangement Syndrome
He got washed in top 96 at Evo Japan man.
Didn't you read his tweet? The monitors were laggy and the tournament was run by morons
You know it is funny, as this entire post, is just cope over the fact that he is better than the rest and can out play anyone.
>WWELLL HHHEE DIIDD NOT UUUSEE THE RIIIGHT CHARRQACCERR SOOOO IT DOOONT COUNNNT
Frick me sore loser does not begin to describe the asshurt.
so hes just good at it and ignoring the meta so people are butthurt?
No he's playing the meta and claiming it's not the meta.
Classic, does he still say Fox loses to other top tiers (while not switching characters himself of course)?
In recent years fox loses to marth and no, leffen actually learned how to play sheik to counter it. He won his most recent set against Zain (the best marth in melee rn) by playing sheik.
So of course your assumed downplaying of leffen is exactly the opposite of what happened.
slurp
fox doesn't lose to marth, zain just buttrapes everyone
leffen didn't switch, he plays both. He won the last Melee major. FGCucks are just free
An fgc gay would just tell me to git gud when I lose, so it seems they should do the same if they are so unhappy about it.
>Youtube will force feed me a video of max talki g about how cool and awesome this is in a day or two
Good. Frick fgc
It has lost its footing I believe. Much more corporate.
moron Smashbab autist picks the easiest, toppest tier 1 button win character in the game that literally everyone fricking hates because he's so shit to play against and moronicly S Tier, wins, and everyone hates it.
he canceled ZeRo because he humped his pillow
Seconding a QRD?
Wtf? Is he in high school? Why is his fricking face saturated with acne?
smash player
looks more like acne scarring than actual acne
be grateful you're not cursed
i laffen
lmao you can hear the crowd cheer when happy chaos loses and the dead silence when happy chaos wins
damn did they fix Strive's flow or something? shit looks so much better to play than it did on launch
they rebalanced some frames on recovery and startups, there are more cancels too. But the lack of kit in every character makes the game boring.
Now, I haven't played GG since AC, but what the frick is happy chaos' deal?
I have seen less juggly characters in much more juggly games.
He looks like his playstyle belongs in Skullgirls or MvC3.
He basically is. He's a character with a tool for almost everything and gets strong pressure and mixups in a game where most of the cast is extremely limited in comparison while also being able to zone.
You know when you were a kid and you thought “why don’t they just use a gun it would be OP” well that’s happy chaos
2 resources, bullets and concentration meter that can be replenished with 2 separate special moves. reload and focus.
1 frame hitscan projectile
Reticle/gun mechanic where there are no H buttons but instead he just pulls out a gun that makes a reticle appear over or near the enemy automatically focusing on the enemy over time as the gun is out.
status effect move that makes the reticle go onto the enemy much faster
Stance that can be cancelled into other specials called steady aim that makes the H shots twice as powerful, launch people if not blocked and guard crush for massive frame advantage(plus enough to do a 26 frame move right after and still be +5 atleast)
One of the only characters that can bring people wall to wall off a K or P button.
Insane meter gain.
2 overdrives that each fill one of the resources bars when used(one super is also basically an RC up close that also make the concentration meter use less of itself}
Can be played pure zoner or pure rushdown at a moments notice because 1 frame projectile lmao
Broken piece of shit but very fun to play if you like being able to do whatever you fricking want.
>1 frame hitscan projectile
That cant be true can it?
Its neddlessly fast as frick but arcsys wouldnt do something as moronic as a 1 frame projectile....would they?
Man what the frick is this? Why does this game look so much worse than Xrd visually? Why do the combos do so much damage?
Stive is an absolute mess visually. No clue why it got so much praise in that department when it came out.
What
Everyone was shitting on Strive's UI since early footage
They should make the funny numbers even BIGGER. That will definitely not distract anybody from looking at game's visuals.
I'm amazed the combo counter ever got past testing. No one who remotely understands fighting games gives two fricks about how many hits a combo has when multihit moves are a thing.
dear god this games UI is bad
also glad the Black person player lost
>complaining about one of the few BASED black vidya characters
homie you crazy
How is he based? He's a diversity hire who rips off the storyline of both Baiken and Slayer.
it's funny how even in a thread full of delusion and secondaries you can still manage to make a post this fricking dumb that shows you haven't even bothered reading about these characters
Comparing these two finals really does make one think.
Why the frick do people play Strive instead of this masterpiece?
Most new anime fighting game players don't like the snowballing and general oppression of older anime fighting games. That's coincidentally also why Perfects in Strive don't feel like something that'll turn the tide of motivation for losing players. It's mentally less stressful to lose in a game like Strive
It honestly just makes me sad. Xrd was abandoned before getting the finishing touches and 2 other characters added for DBFZ which led to Strive.
Xrd died for the monkey mashing shitfest that is Strive and in return Strive killed the fricking franchise. I really don't know how Arcsys is going to recover from this and regain popularity now that they have no groundwork fans. They alienated both Blazblue and Guilty Gear fans so any future project in either IP is doomed and they have to know that at this point.
They've probably got so many anime IP holders beating a path to their doors to fighting gameify their various IPs that it doesn't really matter to them at the moment
>They alienated both Blazblue and Guilty Gear fans
Strive-exclusive fans are far more numerous and dedicated than original GG fans.
Your franchise isn't for you anymore. Sorry buddy.
Dude the number of strive fans and players to xrd only or +r only players is 10:1, not depending on "groundwork" fans got them what they wanted and more all while they go merc game maker mode and get hired to make games for other people lmao. They do not give a shit.
anon, this is starting to get embarrassing. You seriously need to stop
I don't know shit about Happy Chaos but how the frick does a character like this stay legal in comps? Is his shit actually more punishable and this was just a terrible match up?
>Is his shit actually more punishable and this was just a terrible match up?
No, in fact, the character he was fighting against is the 2nd most broken character in the game and one of the only ones that has tools to approach and challenge HC.
THAT character had counterplay potential?! What the frick, man.
>Cue all the skitzo videos claiming he is Light/Saddam/Hitler/Stalin again
At this point it is obvious he has the skills to back up his smack talk, they are just all seething mad they can't beat him. If they were in his position, they would be doing the same things Leffen does.
They are just mad, they bad.
Have you got your next hit video up yet? May i suggest you compare him to Jack the Ripper and Vlad Teppich next. Perhaps sprinkle in Rasputin, or Misc Pot to finish.
Nips were always king at fighting games but now can't catch a break. Getting beat by everyone left and right.
Old arcade heads are too old and youths are busy with Valo and APEX.
I would argue more so that simultaneous release and information sharing being much easier has removed the competitive handicap that the Japanese players used to have (well that and the skill ceiling for high level play going down in general due to simpler inputs and more forgiving buffer systems in general).
better than the troon, get fricked GG troons
Fricking THIS
I'm not even convinced that little twink is a real troon, just looks like a standad pussy/gay who decided to be trans for attention. He hasn't even vaguely transitioned over the years, clearly doesn't intend to.
Based as frick. Galactic Leffen got the victory he EARNED.
>Strive is now owned by a partygame player
You can't make this shit up
Goes to show how shit the game is
Is that the guy from the long as frick dark triad video?
The very same.
I'd rather he win than the troony
Holy shit, I laughed out loud for a solid five minutes. Absolute state of the FGC when a Smelee player crushes a non-Melee tournament.
Based. I hope Hax makes another kino schizo video.
Did Boon sell his soul or something?
No, hes just crestfallen because NR refuses to let mileena and kitana smash their giant obese edenian and outworlder breasts in his mouth like the good ol days. Now they have to fricking wear diapers and talk about like fricking tax relations instead of who has the softest ass.
actually not shad
He realized he can no longer have sexy chicks murder each other and mk is lackluster as a fighter so each game tries to one up the last one gore.
He's nothing more than a figurehead or whatever are NRS, They trot him out to be the spokesman/voice for MK but I doubt he has anywhere near the control over it people think he still does
Does that homosexual win anything these days?
I thought he was gonna win skullgirls at least but he dropped out to just focus on sf6. He did pretty well but who knows if he’ll stay on it when mk1 comes out
He won't. To be fair he does have a skillset in that he can find the most busted character on the roster of any fighting game, day one, that lets him easily sweep some no name tourneys. Then like five weeks later either his main gets patched or everybody learns how to counter their moves, he gets bodied, then he deflects by saying the game is "dead" or "irrelevant" and then moves on to the next one. Only games he's consistent at are Moron Kombat and Smash, which should tell you all you need to know. It's a clever grift.
Of course he won't focus SG any more. The nuDevs are actively trying to kill what small handful of players remain and push away longtime casual fans with heavy handed censorship and general anti-fan rhetoric, and he won't focus something that won't make him money or get him attention. Too bad Mike Z fell so hard for his grift that he put his unfitting, whackass fursona into the game against everyone's wishes, now it's just a tribute to a conman.
Speaking of how was the turnout for the SG tournament at EVO?
The furgay has once again been BTFO
SF only does good in a games first year and then bolts back to MK/Skullgirls.
kek I remember all the delusional dbz players thinking he was going to bulldoze SF 6.
Why does Sonicfox live rent free in people here? Dude hasn't been relevant in anything in years.
The amount of damage Sonicfox did to the fgc with his homosexualry cannot be understated.
It was his attitude that came with the fursuit, if he was just a dorky black guy in a fursuit I don't think anyone would have cared, might have even been endearing, like see even the moron found a place in life
If he was just fricking around most wouldve been fine.
But he's been a massively obnoxious c**t. Suit and Skill or not, being a c**t is being a c**t.
I know people said it already, but I guess you don't realize the damage he has done.
Reminder that SF tried every single fighting game in EVO ythis year and didnt pass top 100 on any of them
Everyone left Strive for SF6.
makes sense that leffen would win a game that even morons can master
everybody is tired of happy chaos.
Street Fighter chad here. I watched your top 6 and I'm sorry that happened. Aside from the hour of bs before they started playing Street Fighter, the top 6 was awesome. Im just sorry about Strive's.
Will Nephew ever catch a break
>flowchart character mains follow the flowchart
not surprising
All Juri players must hang
I haven't me anyone that genuinely enjoys watching others play fighting games. Only people that actually play them can have fun.
DARK TRIAD
>becomes the target of a bizarre schizo conspiracy
>is now untouchable
it's not fair
It is funny as frick really, he got a skitzo sperg so fricking spazed out, he made Leffen look great and a victim in one video.
To be honest, all i have seen is smack talk. and if you want to condemn him for that you big homosexual, condemn all of Ganker including yourself.
>DARK TRIAD
>OH NO HE IS TRYING TO CAST A DEATH NOTE SPELL AT ME
He may be """""insufferable""""" but all it looks like is you are seething fricking mad you can't beat him after he smack talks. You lot come out looking worse, with Hitler and Stalin accusations. Next time pick the least mentally ill smash gay in the room. You may have a better shot.
Based, humiliating weaker men is alpha male hours. If anything you saying that makes him look great. Stop sticking weaklings in his path you spastics
I hate that out of all the shit Hax said in that video, it's THIS that got memed to hell and back. Yes, it sounds moronic and edgy, but he is not the one who came up with it. It's literally just the term for a well-established psychological theory of personality. Blame the guy who came up with it but not Hax.
Oh no Leefen used DARK TRIAD
It was super effective.
>What the frick went so wrong?
The game.
didn't the game sold a gorillion copies? more than any other GG?
Will shit anon, you're right, it shipped a million last year, a guess that means we can ignore any negatives about the game.
Leffen is an insufferable homosexual who doesn't belong in a community, and this event was made worse with him signing up
Then why not just ban him from attending? Tournament organizers can easily arrange that.
>who doesn't belong in a community
I know its an old comment but u realized strive is OVERFLOWING with trannies and minorities- what exactly are you protecting here
The entire top 8 were the same characters that were in the last two EVOs, everyone is tired of the broken and busted meta. Chaos has been curbstomping half the roster for 2 years with his "nerfs" being slaps on the wrist that doesn't even address the parts of his kit that make him broken. Nagoriyuki and Sol have easily executable TODs on nearly half the roster.
Milia, I-no, Sin and Chipp might as well not even be in the game at this point. They are so bad in the game's rushdown meta that they can't even function in most of their matchups.
Speaking of matchups, it's lovely that this game has been getting consistent updates yet the developers seem to have absolutely no issue with the fact that there are several 1-9 or even 0-10 matchups related to I-no and Chaos. The game has become a sad joke and the only people who play it are Discord kids and trannies and the Japanese abandoned this game over a year ago now.
I mean it with no exaggeration when I say I bet you most of the people in that crowd were just waiting for SF6 to come on and almost none of them even care about Strive.
>top8
I havent played Strive since launch. How's my boy chumpkin? Is Gio bottom tier now?
Potemkin has slipped into mid-low tier due to several DLC characters being particularly painful for him.
Gio is high-mid tier. She still shits out damage with easy combos.
If pot is above bottom tier I'll take it. My biggest gripe with SF6 is the grapplers are bottom tier
There is no true bottom tier in modern fighting games, no one's as bad as the bottom tiers of old
Pots is low
But high in fun
One grab makes everything worth it
With more games with great netcode on the market more people are realizing Strive is watered down baby-tier dogshit. Leffen winning Evo is both a testament to that but also hilarious as Strive fans gotta put up with it, pretty happy with the outcome overall.
>The entire top 8 were the same characters that were in the last two EVOs, everyone is tired of the broken and busted meta. Chaos has been curbstomping half the roster for 2 years with his "nerfs" being slaps on the wrist that doesn't even address the parts of his kit that make him broken. Nagoriyuki and Sol have easily executable TODs on nearly half the roster.
This is what Strive is supposed to be, if you want a game where ToD's don't happen and there is actual executional depth and/or heavy life and meter requirements for TOD combos then you picked the wrong game, Strive is an idiot masher.
>1-9 or 0-10 matchups
lol, lmao even, you are right in that the game is a sad joke but it was always a sad joke, we lost literally the entire anime game genre for this clunky garbage
>dark brown skin x white gold/blonde hair
hot
based
Ramlethal is the only thing that got me into Fightans and will be the only thing I take with me from Fightans to the grave
This but Es
Too bad fightans are close to fricking gachashit when it comes to story/character development depth
So why are the fighting homosexuals so upset at the smash player? Let me guess, he didn't kiss the twatter ring or something? Cheap meta shit is in every competitive game now a days.
>Broken DLC character wins another EVO
It's a joke at this point.
This thread reeks of unresolved teenager drama.
>smash player
>underage drama
checks out
>Evo
>underage drama
Fix'd. The scene has been a joke since 2012.
>mfw watching SF6 pools
>reeks
>smash
oh hohohoho
BIG LEFF DAWG is our guy
always has been
don't care if he plays a trash boring ass character
proud of him, let them seethe
Don't worry, next year and every year after will be won by Omito now that they've made the mistake of putting Johnny back in the game.
why are fgcucks so bad at their own games? lmao
Don't worry, they will blame it on Leffen using a death note as to why they keep losing to him.
No buddy with any sort of talent in fighting games plays Strive anymore. The community around it has been completely infiltrated and infested with terminally online trannies who don't even play the game but make it a minefield for anyone who isn't in support of current [thing]. The gameplay being complete ass and the online barely functioning and it's a wonder how this game still has a live playerbase.
does this confirm Strive is a Smash-tier party game?
Was that the fastest GF of any tournament at evo? Or was there one that ended faster before?
Leffen should pick up Marvel 3 again
The combination of Happy Chaos winning 2 EVOs back to back and Leffen being a bad human being will do that.
I know people will want to downplay Leffen's antics and just say "lol seething edgelords" or whatnot. But at least admit that he's really a bad person first.
He is a great player there is no doubting that. Anyone who does is just a clown. Remove the aspect of him being a good player and you're left with one of the most toxic people you have ever known.
You gave up being able to use the
>He a bad person
When Hax compared him to Stalin/Hitler and said his twtter account is a death note in his skitzo video
All of you are just looking whining baby's who can't take a bit of smack talk.
Smack talk is fine. Hell everyone does it. There's no point going deep into that because that's normal.
Being a bad person is not.
DARK TRIAD
>being a bad person
>not normal
>Back biting gossiping behind someones back
Looks like the pot calling the kettle back here bro.
You don't sound like a good person yourself.
Uhh what do you want me to do post here and then also contact him? Want me to link the thread?
>This spastic sperg really asked that
This just proves you are a bad person.
Wtf is this israeli logic? Because a crazy person said something crazy that invalidates all grounded criticism of the guy's character and behavior? Peak shitty leffen is not teenage shitter leffen. Nobody gives a shit about a child acting dumb. The unforgivable situation was how he handled smash's metoo drama. He wasn't even involved in any way and he injected himself into the drama and acted like the voice of morality for clout. And as a result of his lies and slander fricking heart of gold autist m2k cried on camera about his mutilated dick and why the lies leffen pushed for attention were biologically impossible. Leffen is the definition of a crybully.
Oh yeah, I forgot about this. How was leffen not banned from everything ever for that?
He will be made into a martyr if this is the case. It is best for him to slowly be pushed out of his inner circles, left to just streaming on an inept platform.
It amazes me how that c**t never got the shit kicked out of him for that, and he was still playing smash for awhile.
Who else aside M2K and Zer0 did he try to frick over? I only know of his bullshit from those 2 things. Im guessing he tried going after HBox considering his vitriol towards him.
>All he has on him is making a beta male cry.
It is like you want us to like Leffen even more.
I think the only person being "israeli" here is you with your beta male he said she said bullshit.
Come back at Leffen when you have grown a thicker skin little boy.
Can't handle the bantz? Get the frick out of gaming, take up knitting or some other girly hobby little b***h.
Does anyone competitive even play Strive anymore
toptier pilled
APOLOGIZE
https://streamable.com/zm7k6
>melee won evo without even being there
oh no no no fgchuds
I want to drag Leffen’s face across a mile of concrete and broken glass
How was daru? saw he was top 8. put up a good fight?
He tried his best but there's only so much I-no can do against Happy Chaos and Nago
Came in winner's side, first beat NBNHMR in winner's semis, then lost to Leffen and then to NBNHMR in loser's finals.
Honestly Leffen just played extremely well. Kind of sad people can't appreciate it, even if it made his games a bit boring.
HC could get turned into the worst character in the game at this point and people would still be determined to hate him because of the moronic zoning he used to have.
Overall the game is pretty well balanced compared to other fighting games, it just has characters that are more frustrating to fight against than they should be because of how explosive the game is.
I don't think so. People don't really hate on Sol or Nago anymore. HC gets nerfed into the ground and they'll just complain about Leo instead (justifiably so).
Can't blame the tier prostitute for tier whoring, it's an issue with the game and not the player. But if you think HC isn't a problem, then what are his bad match ups?
KA KA KA KA
KACHI DAZE
Unironically show me what Leffen has done that people like Punk, Brianf, Menard, snakeyez haven't done on twitter and real life. I never saw you guys b***h about those characters like you do Leffen, you act like Leffen is on the level of lowtiergod for posting "buff juri haha" on twitter. If you can't back this up then I will assume you're all chimping out because he plays Melee.
>hard mode: do not post him 5-0ing Chillen
>Nightmare mode: do not post anything to do with the Smash sex pest accusations since he was never accused
A lot of it is a carryover from the early-mid 2010s when he was much more immature and wienery, keep in mind this was also the time most people were getting exposed to the competitve Smash scene for the first time. He's mellowed out considerably since then. He b***hed a lot about Ultimate early on when he was playing but he was ultimately vindicated on that as more and more people are getting fed up with the game.
>more and more people are getting fed up
Only in muttland and only because all but two of the NA players are washed. Smash has an international scene for the first time with Ultimate, and it's still growing this late in it's lifespan. It's not going anywhere anytime soon. Melee is doing much worse, but it'll probably get through it too with Ludwig's help
>he was ultimately vindicated on that as more and more people are getting fed up with the game.
SSC23 has the third highest entrance numbers in the entire game's life, in what world?
>go to ultimate contrarian board
>surprised when metacontrarians appear
There is a thing called a parasocial relationship that some people form whenever someone streams
>when there's a general consensus
Should have sent your best man to kill him, instead you sent a mentally ill Smash gay. Who made him out to be a god among men.
All he does is smack talk and you tried to cancel culture him. Fricking baby.
God you would have been eaten alive in COD lobby 12 years ago.
>trannies spamming the chat when mentally ill man plays top 6
>troon loses
>chat loses their shit
>mod has to shut down chat
pretty good top 6 for a troony game.
I wonder if getting btfo'd to Bridgets theme ruined the theme for him.
How many more games does Leffen have to get first place at EVO in for you guys to admit he's not just carried by his character pick?
He could pick the worse tier character in the game and they would still be seething mad after he wins.
The smell of desperation on them to make him lose out of pure jealousy and ass shitting rage at his smack talk.
What the frick happened to smack talking right back and not letting it in to your head? FG's used to have a rep of being hard as nails when it come to pre and post fight smack talk. Now i see more harsh words in a bowl of alphabet spaghetti.
If you actually watched it when he turns and faces the crowd people stand up and cheer and applaud
Why does v hate Leffen so much that they bite on fake news?
Everyone with eyes knew Smash was the best and most complex fighting game. Like you can't even control your jump drift in these cheap beatemups lmao
>every Strive major this year has had a killer top 8 with tons of character variety and tight matches
>Evo is literally LEFFEN of all people 3-0'ing everyone with fricking HC
It's truly a shame but at least it all but guarantees they have to just shoot HC in the knees once and for all.
Do you guys also hate Angry Bird for winning SF6 with corner-to-corner Ken against Mena's Blanka?
After he got reset and still gave up one more game to his opponent?
No, SF6's top 6 had much tighter and interesting matches than the same old HC sweep Strive has endured for over a year.
SF6 unironically had the best showing of all the games this year at EVO and it's only 2 months into the game's lifespan. Character variety has been quite decent on high competitive level too (even the DLC character Rashid didn't break the game in a P2W manner) so the future is bright for the game.
>it's only 2 months into the game's lifespan.
That's the best time, no one wants to watch a solved game
True though what I guess I mean is that the character variety from CEO and EVO has shown us that as a first version of the game it's relatively well balanced character-wise. System mechanics sure are abit questionable (mostly the drive rush neutral) but overall I'd say the game is in a good place for initial release with no one character outright winning due to super cheese.
>smashgay wins the second largest EVO event
>smashgay ALMOST wins the largest EVO game getting second place after a reset
fricking lmao, the absolute state of FGCucks. You homosexuals are so lucky pic related dipped to speedrunning instead of FGs
Which Game did Armada play
Melee (best player in history), now an SM64 speedrunner
The streams are super comfy, too. Something about Mario 64 sounds is nice to me.
I wouldn't run it tho cause I like being straight and normal.
Could he be a top fighting game player?
How technical is his Jigglypuff?
I feel like what helps Leffen and Armada succeed at other games is that the dexterity and reaction needed to play Fox and Peach at top level is just outright beyond normal human capacity.
But Jigglypuff seems like you just space back air and use your momentum to feint vs actually come in and Rest or grab up throw rest.
Jiggly is low tech but high fundamentals, Hbox is the only relevant jigglypuff in history aside from early melee mango
Any melee top player can, as evidenced by Leffen. All modern FG games are significantly easier than they were 10-15 years ago, even GG cucked out and it cucked out hard. Being a top melee player is significantly more difficult than being a top player in any current FG game
>Any melee top player can, as evidenced by Leffen
There's like two dozen people in fgc history with the body stat to be able to do the equivalent to what Leffen can
As in most Melee players physically cannot keep up with him on a Newtonian level, let alone mental game.
Leffen's ranked like 7th or 8th in melee, so that's at least 6 more dominating forces (minus mango because he's a b***h now)
It always was. A digital game will never beat an analog game that allows for fine movement. FGCucks we're always deluded
>godlike spacing, reads and patience but average technicality
the right game with the right character
Games like Strive, Project L, and Street Fighter 6(modern controls), are perfect for Smash players.
HBox has average execution, but god-tier fundamentals, mindset, and downloading. He'd do amazing in any mainstage game like Strive and SF6, but flop if he tries anime fighters which are much more technical.
someone post that punk clip i dont want to
If he can win the big prize in SF6, he would cause all the FGC trannies to commit suicide all at once.
Do white people really watch smelly virgins push buttons while staring at a screen?
This is worse than watching Twitch cuz at least I can see bawds with their breasts out but this is just fat losers.
Frick I hate white people.
2/10. Blacks are naturally attracted to fighting games for SOME reason. :^)
Yeah of all the bait posts possible this thread was the worst for that because the majority of fighting game players are black.
I said you watching, not the players, you dumb fricking crackers.
Christ, I'm so sick of how moronic white people are.
Literal monkeys.
Stay mad that GG is a joke and the "bad guy" won. No amount of b8 will change that.
Strive is a white man's game.
Cope racist.
Over 2,000 people played strive at evo. It wasnt a free entry either.
>wh*tes are so bad they can only win the most dumb downed FGs in the lineup
So which simple-input fighter are you playing instead?
GG is and will be the last real major fighting game, no matter how much you cope about it.
This. They will have the same fate in Granblue and SF. Wh*tes are dumb and don't get neuch
This is the biggest problem with fighting games, it's the cheesiest metagay pos that win
>it's another Ram/Nago/Leo/HC match
I can't believe that there are 9 DLC characters and the uncontested top tier is the only one that gets anywhere.
damn, it is almost like top tiers are a cut above for some reason
>uh... top tiers are le good!
That wasn't my fricking point, dipshit.
>dude try and win evo
>okay
>wins
>WHAT?!?!?! NOT LIKE THAT
>you didnt actually win evo
Am I understanding this situation right? This is the same shit as "you didnt beat the game"
Well, look who has the trophy b***hes
Yes. FGCucks are losing their minds and coping hard
FGC buttmad that they got exposed by a fricking smashie. Loving every laugh
No one that matters even plays Strive anymore. And didn't he run and hide from SF6?
>[cope]
You answered it yourself. The problem started at guilty gear strive.
Leffen is a canary in the coal mine.
The vision of your future.
You have all these stupid esport fighting games that are desperate to lower the skill ceiling so the Nips/asiatics won't win 100 our of 100 times. So who is the sort of player that benefits from execution being a lower and lower barrier?
It's people like Leffen. Enjoy your esport.
Watching any match of HC makes me return to not ever reinstalling Strive.
At this point, Leffen could pull off a massive achievement in any game, and seething mad homosexuals would find any nitpick to deny him a win.
All because they could not handle a bit of banter.
It should have been brisket
Kys
Well who would you have picked?
You tell me
I did,it should have been brisket!
Just imagine as a xister wins the tourney a giant trans flag comes down with the middle theres bold lettering "trans rights are human rights!" Whereeveryone can see. It could have been a magical political moment, instead some washed up nobody won.
Your obsession with trannies is making you almost as annoying as actual trannies.
You could at least try to be funny about it, but you're not even good at making jokes either. You just live in the constant state of unfunny irony.
Trans rights is no joke anon, seethe and cope.
You're like a brainless twitter freak that can only operate at the very bottom level of ironic humor, never evolving, never attempting to be any funnier, just a repeating loop of the same shit day in and day out.
Just be funny, anonymous. Draw a funny picture, make a joke.
I see you seething but where is the cope?
Why do you care so much about other people? Focus on yourself and your community
Who even was at the GGST finals this year?
If Leffen won there clearly wasn't much competition to begin with, as much as Strive is a fricking joke anyway?
daru was there, none of the others looked familiar to me
Daru lost against Leffen? wtf?
I see there's also Churara and Umisho, poor showing for sure but Daru losing against Leffen stin...
>HC
ahhh, I see, no wonder, this is like Raven sweeping in early Rev1, what a joke
Don't forget. This character has been doing this for over 2 years now. I genuinely wonder if they are ever going to balance HC.
Fighting games suck now. What happened?
Casuals and lack of gatekeeping. Just like everything else.
We can't have good things anymore, everything has to be gay and non threatening
Lowered execution barriers + devs desperate to get new players. Strive is a tragedy after XRD Rev 2
>devs desperate to get new players
wait wut... devs don't want their game dead? shocking!! call the news we have an emergency this is literally genocide
>NIps stop getting an entire year head start on the rest of the world
>They stop winning tourneys
>Americans get a 6 month head start
>still can't win shit
I didn't realise the crack was exclusive to America, moron
People outside America have honor, so it basically was, moron
I for one welcome a new heel to the game
Why does Leffen have so many dickriders? He's a tier whoring homosexual killing interest in an already dying game. Why are so many people slurping him and running defense? Do they think that him psychically torturing already mentally unstable smashgays makes him not a fricking homosexual?
Because, he is the funnier guy. The last guy you sent at him, had a mental breakdown and made him look like a shining golden god.
>Twitter account is a death note
>DARK TRIAD
>HE BE HITLER AND STALIN
All because he talked smack on some forums 5 years ago. Frick me you are such a baby. You would never survive in a 2010 COD lobby. You be crying to mommy.
Nobody sides with a skitzo bro. It was bad idea to let Hax take a cancel culture shot at him. You only get one bullet and he missed. So Leffen is now off limits.
I disagree that Leffen is off limits. He often cries when everyone in Melee moves on without him.
Well you better come at him with something better than
>Well his win did not count because he picked a character i did not like
Because, you are starting to sound like Skitzo Hax.
Try to pick a better anime weapon to use as his twitter account the death note was a fail pick.
Oh and try comparing him to Misc Pot and idi Amin. Those are true DARK TRIAD homies, not some posers like Hitler and Stalin. Or even General Butt Naked. He was a true OG canibalhomie.
Well I did not come at him with that. I am not the previous poster.
>DBFZ gatekept from main stage despite drawing huge crowds that go nuts for it
Spiteful mvcgay organizers will never let this game succeed despite it still going strong almost 6 years later.
>bring back MvC3 without announcing marvel 4
I can't believe I wasted my time watching ZMC bullshit for nothing
moron
DBFZ overstayed it's welcome, a welcome it only had because MvC literally killed itself.
Nothing that keeps staying popular and drawing people in overstays anything.
It was the literal only option in that space and was attached to a massive IP that hasn't gotten a real fighting game in 10 years, that pull carried hard, not the game.
>gatekept
Mainstage was decided my the number of entrants
>Strive cucks are trying to explain away Leffens win as illegitimate without pointing to the issues they've been pretending aren't real for years.
Hysterical.
Strive is a joke game anyway who gives a shit
I kinda do, ironically I mean.
Imagine if Leffen had beaten Goichi back in that one EVO
>FGCgays constantly preaching to adapt and gitgud and PICK A TOP TIER
>Leffen picks a top tier
>noooooooo you can't just pick Happy Chaos and win this sucks I'm mad
Lmao bunch of hypocritical homosexuals
We meant in a competitive game
gg troons cannot stop losing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
SMASHCHADS WON
FGKEKS LOST
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>all the seethe itt
Yeah, whatever. Just make sure you guys are using the correct HC color when you make your Leffen fanart.
>optimal color
what?
When you do a dust attack, the universal overhead in the game, there's an orange glow behind the character. That glow doesn't change color with the character color you choose so the theory is that picking a character who is already orange should delay the opponent from recognizing and reacting to the orange glow during the dust startup.
Jaimie! Call Chipmaster!
>pro player plays to win because it’s his job and it’s how he makes money
>but the match was BORING!
Spoiler alert, homosexuals. They aren’t there to entertain you. They’re there to win. You being entertained or not is just a byproduct of them trying to win. Sorry the most easy win character is boring to watch. Take it up with the devs
I've been to Melee locals and fighting game locals and honestly there's not much difference between the playerbases.
melee was never wholly different from standard FGC stuff, they were just a bit younger. Subsequent smash players were really different and super gay, modern anime reminds me a lot of the newer smash crowd.
Soivers are heavily Smashies.
Guilty Gear players getting the full Netherrealm experience
By being ignored when it comes to game balance, while the developer just keeps releasing overpowered DLC characters?
Yes, but also getting cheesed by broken characters with guns.
netherhelm has a history of never making balanced gun characters or projectiles in general.
this is why no one sane likes fighting games. the people who play this genre were the type to use noobtubes and one man army in mw2, only to defend it with
>WELL UHHHH ITS IN THE GAME DURRRRR
>ITS IN THE GAME SO IT BEING CHEAP MEANS NOTHING, BLAME IT ON THE DEVS DURRRRR
same problem league has. just a trash community.
Still waiting for fighting game players to be good enough to come win Melee events. We've been playing FGC "real fighters" for years, your turn Scrubs
I'm not sure this says what you think it does. All it indicates is that smash is so shit smashies had to transition to other games while no one else had any desire or reason to play smash. a fricking pokken pro could say the same thing.
That's some massive cope considering he still plays Melee.
I do not think Smash is worth investing any time FGC wise. Constant shut downs, constant sponsors pulling out, there is no real incentive. Not to mention it is not taken serious as other fighting games.
He seeks recognition from the real FGC, nobody seeks recognition from the smash community. the argument you are making is moronic and also applies to any random kusoge that only 20 people play.
I still play jackie chan and I'm world champ, how come nobody will see me in jackie chan when im willing to play SF 6?
Microsoft is preparing for a new Killer Instinct game
Xbox will save fighting games once again
>best selling guilty gear game is a total clownfest
what went wrong
Nothing? It was designed that way. It was its entire purpose
Daisuke has lost his mind
Daisuke sold Guilty Gear's soul
Leffen is just FGC Hasan Piker, who is the FGC Sam Hyde?
>wins EVO in one game
>gets added to another
How did Leffen do it?
Bridget was a sacred seal; the patron saint of traps everywhere. By sacrificing him to the trannies, daisuke unleashed a great and terrible curse that will haunt arc sys games for the rest of time.
Bbtag is unironicly a better game than strive
mashing is the way
smashing is the way
So why is it that Guilty Gear fans move onto the newest game even if it's unanimously considered bad, whereas Melee players have the balls to say "No" and stick with the best game in the series?
What's with the subservience?
An extremely high number of Strive's fan and playerbase is new people
Who do what
The same reason people play KH2 rather than KH3 more often.
Comfortable nature of sticking to what you know is best.
Melee is a cult that's finally about to die because the eceleb that was keeping it alive lost motivation and decided to milk it for drama. Guilty Gear and normal games thankfully don't have to deal with a leech community like Melee
FGC died in the wake of 09.
They used to play what they wanted to play before that. Once publishers started throwing money around and treating evo and then smaller tournaments as ads the grassroots shriveled up and died.
The majority fans did like Strive but Ganker will never admit that. The ones that stayed on Xrd played exclusively offline in a few scenes. It's the reason wy Xrd's player count pre and post rollback never changed.
Strive's majority newbies, there was nothing to really go back to given they had no idea what the previous games were like in the first place
Guilty Gear's entire fanbase has always been about saying that you play it instead of ever actually playing. Now that there's a game which people actually play, they seethe endlessly about it.
Lots of Meleegays were actually moving and liking Ultimate for awhile, even playing both.
Too bad 2020 happened and nuked the whole community, both its dignity and credibility. Hilariously, there was only 1 meleegay who was cancelled for all the shit that was going around. Didn't help the DLC characters ended up being fricked up again.
>Didn't help the DLC characters ended up being fricked up again.
Honestly the rate at which they're "fricked up" is pretty exaggerated. Steve is a mess, yeah, but he's nowhere near the untouchable god that Brawl MK or 4 Bayo were. Pyra and Mythra are good, but not overwhelmingly so, and their most prominent player uses them as a cover for bad matchups and mostly uses Cloud. Kazuya and Min Min are more whined about than they are actually played, and Sephiroth and Sora have done jack shit up to this point.
Funnily enough, DLC Pass 1 has pretty much fallen out of relevancy entirely with the only two from it to see massive success (Joker and Terry) falling out of meta due to new developments/waning playerbase
Mainly new blood. It fricking died hard already and Bridget being retconned to a groomed troony killed veteran support hard. JP scene is dead, US scene is the equivalent of a vegetable 2 mins from death.
GG fans didn't move on. Most old Gear fans hate Strive and don't play it. Funny enough, +R is the one that's gotten the boom in new blood even though Xrd was the babified GG before Strive came along. Probably because of rollback + it being toaster friendly.
>even though Xrd was the babified GG before Strive
I think this also played a part. If you're already not playing the current, publisher sponsored thing then you may as well go all the way back to before the dumbing down.
I dont understand what guilty gear has to do with melee though
Strive's EVO 2023 winner is a top Melee player
well that is an unfortunate look for strive I fear
Oh yeah, and it was one of the most notoriously shitheaded melee players too.
the same reason we got like 6 years of SF V
GG gays get what they deserve from all their shilling
Ready to apologize yet?
For what? I don’t like either series.
For what? I didn't do anything to those two anime characters.
Blazblue CF is also guilty of having extremely underwhelming top 8s and grand finals. The last time Blazblue truly had an outstanding grand finals was back in Chrono Phantasma.
>meleechad tries "real fighting games" and breezes through everyone
>FGCucks can't even make it past 0-2 in Melee
Truly Melee is the only real fighting game and FGCels have been coping for decades about it.
When leffen tried real fighting games like tekken, street fighter, and real guilty gear he quickly gave up. He even ran away from DBFZ.
>troony game
>audience filled with troons
About right. That has to be about 60% of the remaining playerbase
>pander to trannies
>no one is happy (except rich israelites)
Nobody gives a frick about Strive. Everyone was just waiting for Street Fighter.
All men btw
>people unironically supporting LEFFEN
>people unironically supporting ZAIN
jfc
I think it is more so the psychological need to fight others. We choose sides to feed this instinct.
>tripgay
cringe
>doubling down on unironically supporting zain
cringe
>not knowing
if you don't know who zain is based otherwise cringe
based
I do not have a tripname, only a name on the website. I am indeed a namegay.
I like zain because anybody who doesn't use one of the space animals is based in my book
What did Zain do?
If I had ever even considered supporting a single professional gamer at any point I would just go ahead and put myself down
Nah I hate Leffen but Strive trannies deserve nothing less than him clowning on their shit game
I want Leffen to dominate Strive because I hate everything about this game and want it to burn
I miss Chris G. He was a way better smashgay turned FGgay.
Morridoom was way funner to watch than fricking HC.
>What the frick went so wrong?
Jeez where would one even start with this mess of a game?
Most of the DLC characters are low tier and 2 of them are the worst characters in the game due to their kit being highly restrictive in a meta that encourages characters like Chaos. Of the DLC there is legitimately only 4 characters between the 9 they have released that are worth the cash. 1 of which though is a legacy character that has been retconned into a completely new characters in all but name.
The balance in the game has been stagnant since the mid season 1 patch way back in late 2021 with most changes adding nothing significant. This has led people to just get bored and tired of the same exact shit. It also really doesn't help that such a simple rushdown meta is very samey between matchups which leads to most fights feeling the exact same way because you are essentially just repeating the same basic combos and strategies rather than any significant changeups (outside of the top tiers.)
Online functionality in this game is an actual fricking joke and everyone who was in charge of coding it needs to be fired. There are times on the West coast where it is literally impossible to find matches despite there being 2k+ people online. Hiccups will crash the game in such a way that it won't even tell you, everything freezes. People can literally remote access your private files and in-game data due to a security breach that has been known about since early 2022 that they still have not addressed or patched.
The music has been getting worse since Baiken's release. Whoever is mixing these songs needs to also be fired because I refuse to believe that a song like "The Circle" should ever get past any sort of quality assurance. The amount of post-effects added to the instruments and voice makes the whole thing sound like shit regardless of the actual song's quality.
Them choosing to pander to a bunch of mentally ill people online.
I would rather have shit dlc characters than Arc's DBFZ strategy of making the dlc character's so broken they snap the game's meta in half.
If they are going to release shit like Bedman and Sin in the game without even touching on HC or Nago what in the actual frick is the point of even buying the pass? It is literally more economical to just buy the actual worthwhile characters rather than the whole slot. This is just blatantly bad product planning in my eyes. I'm not asking for every DLC character to be another HC, I am simply asking the characters to be consistently viable.
>People can literally remote access your private files and in-game data due to a security breach that has been known about since early 2022 that they still have not addressed or patched.
What? Like specific directories or anything at all?
You can do anything up to and including closing someone's game. There's an extremely based individual who targets homosexual e-celebs and makes the game unplayable for them the microsecond they start streaming.
>You can do anything up to and including closing someone's game.
That's a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
>ArcSys fail to update the game in any meaningful way for over a year
>HC and Nago keep dominating the scene
>pretty much all the Strive pros drop the game
>meleegay that nobody likes - who just picked the game up - uses the cheesiest character in the game and beats whoever remains in the Strive scene
>everyone considers this the worst EVO final not only this year but for GG overall
Strivegays deserve this. What a trash game
It was one of the weaker finals last year too.
Strive is just not a good game.
True. Strive is just a badly designed mess.
The wallbreak mechanic - which is the big selling point of the game for ArcSys - just made it a terrible fighting game from the ground up.
People can get catapulted out of the stage mere 3 seconds after the start of the match and that in itself encourages highly safe playstyles. Which is why characters like HC, Nago or Ramlethal have been top tier since they appeared in the game with ArcSys not making any attempt to nerf them.
>Ram
Ram lands a stray hit in neutral with her absurd pokes and converts into an accessible 75% wallbreak combo
>Chaos
You get shot once, Chaos breaks the wall and proceeds to pressure you with steady aim for ten thousand years with fullscreen hitscan bullets
>Nago
You watch someone attempt to ascend the mountain that is nago, guessing right time and time again, only for nago to guess right on the last interaction and win
Playing anyone else but these three just puts you at a disadvantage. All that because ArcSys desperately wanted casual players who hate the idea of being cornered in a fighting game.
can I get a qrd on this leffen man and why he's the villain of figthing tourneys?
Hostile and verbose.
He's just an enormous homosexual. Even in smash, when he loses he always whines and makes excuses. And the several prior attempts he's made at real fighting games have all resulted in him quitting and shitting on the games and their players the instant he faces any challenge.
Has a history of being a heel in the scene but has also been temporarily banned for extremely poor sportsmanship (most notably yelling in a fellow competitor who has a hearing aid's ear). IIRC during the #metoo movement happening at the same time as McRib's testimonies before EVO online he pressured fellow high level player Mew2King into revealing he had a botched circumcision to avoid getting incorrectly metoo'd and getting banned from the community. As stated earlier he also jumped on the pressure to get Zer0, a Smash 4 player, metoo'd as well. In general he'll jump at any opportunity to eliminate competition for attention.
Makes Smashpedos seethe
why the frick do evo victories feel like nothing?
homie won and he was like "ok alright"
Winning in Strive feels like nothing. That's why.
Strive is a game where someone who picked up the game 10 hours ago can beat a 1000 hour GG Addict and reach the highest ranking only to drop back onto floor 6 on a bad day.
It wasn't uncommon to beat a "top tier player" just by picking someone like Ramlethal playing it super safe. There is no depth to the game and therefore not much room to grow.
is that the reason why smashbros are trying strive?
It's more likely than not, see
where Leffen fails to do even a basic dust combo.
Smash players are used to winning fighting game tourneys where FGChuds don't put up a fight.
I tried strive a few months ago and refunded after 90 minutes, did I do good?
No. And the fact you're so desperate for validation makes it worse.
You're playing Guilty Gear Strive
>fgtards mad that some furry wins
>fgtards mad that some smelly smasher wins
why don't the fgtards just be the better player?
They were rooting for the troony, not the "swede"
I thought the FGC was full of people who were mentally strong who can take losses, adapt, have quick reflexes, etc? Where did it all go? What happened to being better than people who don't play fighting games?
If Leffen was allowed to compete, LTG should have been as well. I hate them both.
Watching XRD and Centralfiction during EVO was the hypest shit.
Strive really fricking killed it being the trashfire that it is.
I can't feel bad for strive at all after how the GG community went on for years acting like their game was the pinnacle of fighting games. Also all the years of shitting on BB.
Strive is just karma being delivered.
>how the GG community went on for years acting like their game was the pinnacle of fighting games
+R and Xrd are in fact the peak of anime fighters though
every frickin discord anime fighter player says that garbage about whatever game they like and play. Only difference is gggays and trannies, mostly the xrd ones, were 5 times as annoying about it.
I never understood this meme. I've played these games for over 14 years at this point and I've never met a Gear player that shat on Blazblue or vice versa, there's always been overlap. It's only on Ganker where I see this.
NTA but there's a video out there where at some con one GG fan walks up to BB Q&A panel to ask why they're simplifying anime fighters with Blazblue and the dev response was "so that more than you and your 5 friends can play the game". Was quite amusing
lmao based
Found it. Starts at about the minute mark.
And they and every other fighting game dev did that for years and it never worked. But then they actually marketed their worst game yet and it finally sold so they can claim victory.
>And they and every other fighting game dev did that for years and it never worked.
Blazblue performed much better than Guilty Gear did what are you smoking?
This unironically.
post the Raven image screencap talking about the annoying shitheads Xrd players were if you have it. Lost all my fighting game images and need a reminder for them.
>Blazblue performed much better than Guilty Gear
Only if you're referring to the period where arcsys didn't even own guilty gear. Because while it did sell better, it was still incredibly niche and left arcsys just as desperate for a mainstream audience. And, like strive, it also had better marketing in the form of an anime.
Also, nice try at ignoring what I actually said. Every dev did this with every franchise they had. Arcsys was doing it with guilty gear too even before strive. Over a decade of every new game being simpler than the last and it never worked. But when one of those games finally sold it's supposed to be proof that dumbing things down was totally the right and necessary move all along. The bad sales before had nothing to do with hardly anyone even knowing the games existed.
>Only if you're referring to the period where arcsys didn't even own guilty gear.
Again what are you smoking? Even after they got the rights back it still sold poorly compared to BlazBlue.
>it also had better marketing in the form of an anime.
A yes the brilliant marketting strategy of airing a bad show 5 years after the game released. I'm sure the terrible reviews it got helped boost the sales tons. Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
>Over a decade of every new game being simpler than the last and it never worked.
Except that time it did with BlazBlue. A no name IP becoming more played than a legacy series.
>hardly anyone even knowing the games existed.
Guilty Gear had anime so by your moronic logic it had marketing. Also Xrd appeared on Evo's main stage 3 years in a row. As well as appearing on ESPN. As well as being the best looking fighting game at the time Please name me other animes games that got more attention than this.
>Even after they got the rights back it still sold poorly compared to BlazBlue.
Is that why blazblue ended up every bit as much a discord fighter as pre-strive guilty gear?
>Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
Honestly, no. The only reason I know about the blazblue one is because I knew multiple weebs in real life who had seen it. None of them had any idea what guilty gear was.
>Except that time it did with BlazBlue. A no name IP becoming more played than a legacy series.
Could you possibly be more full of shit? A legacy series? Seriously? Guilty gear was as no name as it gets. Barely clearing a bar that's resting on the ground is neither an accomplishment nor evidence of a winning strategy. Why didn't blazblue do strive numbers? Why didn't xrd?
>Also Xrd appeared on Evo's main stage 3 years in a row. As well as appearing on ESPN. As well as being the best looking fighting game at the time
What the frick do you think I'm talking about when I say strive actually had marketing? Between xrd's good showings at evo, positive word of mouth about arcsys as a whole in response to people being mad at capcom, and the enormous mainstream exposure from dbfz, acrsys and guilty gear went from being obscure weeb shit to one of the most well respected fighting game companies and most highly anticipated new games in just the span of a few years. No matter what they released it was going to kick the absolute shit out of everything they had ever made before.
>Did you know Guilty Gear had animes too moron?
No it didn't, at most it had an animated trailer but never an anime series.
ASIANS BTFO IN SF6
RELIGIOUS CHADS STAY WINNING
EY SMOOTH SKINS
his face is so puffy
bet he has a bad diet or he's dying
i thought swedish people were the sexiest country?
white + asian = mexican
>braindead TODs
>no neutral
>two interactions away from death at all times
>gimmick functions out the wazoo
>characters given shitty designs that the devs are scared to buff because it'll make them broken top tiers or scared to nerf because they'll go from being broken top tiers to decrepit bottom tiers
>the whole community on copium for more than a year pushing the idea that the whole game's philosophy will get thrown out and it'll become like previous goober entries
>gutted movesets
>gutted movement
>wallbreaks
>positive bonus
>damn near every character having the exact same gameplan and playstyle that revolves around being varying levels of rushdown apes
>people can remotely crash your game
>people can remotely edit your r-code
>no actual ranked queue
>shitty lobby system
>meta has been stagnant for an entire year
>half the viewers of sfv at evo despite the inflated casual entrants
>evo won by a 21er overwatch troony
>evo won by a smashie
>troony bridget
>tournaments end with the top 2 trannies making out on camera
>dead in japan
GROOMER QUEERS -SOIVE-
>shitty lobby system
You forgot to mention that one random guy made a third party software that makes the network connections and lobbies run way smoother and even after an Arc Sys patch, they still haven't made anything as good. Literal SFV flashbacks with this shit.
>people can remotely crash your game
>people can remotely edit your r-code
This is the most inexcusable shit right here, should be enough for a class action lawsuit. The game doesn't function as advertised and has awful security.
>People always claiming that modern fighting games are superior to older games because they're more balanced
>Nearly every single grand finals was a mirror match
I don't use social media, how is everyone coping with the fact that the one supposed saving grace of current games was shown to be a sham in a live event?
Most of those games aren't new anymore and have been solved for awhile.
Doesn't address my question.
Do you want a better answer? Aside from UMVC3 meta, most of those tournaments had a balanced amount of roster representation. The shitpost image doesn't negate the fact that most of those games have decently balanced rosters.
Thank you for providing an example of the cope I was asking about.
You call it cope I call it hard truth.
>I call it hard truth
>While ignoring the actual truth
Enjoy your mirrors, stay coping.
Where are the other mirror characters in those brackets that aren't UMVC3? Tekken 7 post-Leroy EVO Japan tournament was a fluke. It's usually only tag games that suffer from strong meta picks.
>almost skipped SF6 top 6 because strive was so goddamn boring and full of stomps
thank god I actually watched it. It was kino from beginning to end.
Don’t worry, now that Johnny is in, Omito will win everything again with a broken character
We can only hope. I'd rather go back to the status quo snoozefest of Omito winning every top 8 than whatever the frick this game is right now.
Since when did the FGC look so fricking low test
stay free
I dunno why people who go to EVO don't just play better characters
we may never know
Umisho literally could've won his second evo in a row and literally all he had to do was just play happy chaos
that's absolutely true its such a tragedy he didn't figure that out in time
Looks like the mystery has been solved, Jack the Rippers true identity is revealed.
It is Leffen. He used his Bankai twitter account to channel the DARK TRIAD in to making all the other prissy FG b***hes asshurt.
Remember when he went into the SF kumite got washed 3-0'd the first round and then the interviewer kept asking him
>how are you so good
kek. I respect his skill after watching him in DBFZ so I wasn't really surprised to see him come out on top in strive. Happy chaos seems strong but considering he was the only one in top 8 I can only assume he isn't as busted as people make him out to be.
The problem with Happy Chaos seems to be more so that he's boring to fight against (?) which makes viewers hate him too
However, there's a new mechanic in season 3 that can help stuff him so this may look entirely different
How will Strivegays ever recover from being BTFO'd by a smashie?
Strive has been BTFO'ing itself since before release, they're used to it at this point so I doubt they care.
FGC got completely btfo'd and they know it, the reverse would NEVER EVER happen
The fact that Tekken gate keeps itself from people like leffen gives such petty joy.
Tekken players piss and shit themselves in rage cause "streamers aren't playing the game right" when they get high ranks without trying.
I most definitely agree that Tekken fans are elitist when it comes to people playing, it's Honestly not up for debate. But that doesn't stop me being amused when people pick up the game expecting to know everything only to drop it when they aren't as good as they thought they'd be.
People figured it out that the game sucks. I dropped it after a few weeks.
>no gatling
I really want to know who actually developed this game. Nothing makes any sense.
I hope people realize how fricking trash sf6 is too. There's nothing cool, hype or skillful about the drive mechanics and it just makes the game campy as frick as two morons try to out-random each other with the green paint shit.
Based. I will now donate to your stream to support a worthy encore.
>The villain
>Makes everyone hate him
BASED BASED BASED
Strive is a bad game.
>smash kid gets bored and picks your average fightanslop
>destroys everyone and wins the biggest tourney
fgc gays, i....
>"NOOOO BUT HE USED LE OP CHARACTER"
shitter cope, you can use it too
>shitter cope, you can use it too
the only reason he won was cause they just didn't want to use him for some reason lmao
why does Ganker get so angry whenever someone is good at games, there is literally dedicated schizos trying to prove any fps pro is a hacker. very sad.
I've seen Leffen's tweets get automatically recommended on Twitter and the guy seems like he has his head so far up his own ass. Honestly, that's not all that different from western FGC pros but people also hate him because he's from Smash.
why aren't strive top 8s just 8 happy chaos
Because he's fair and balanced. FGCucks just can't accept that Smash was always better and more complex, and that they've been fighting a losing battle for over two decades
Happy chaos is a resource character so you can't just brainlessly mash with him. But in a way that makes him even more broken in a game like strive because he has cheap shit and requires a functioning brain.
He's meant to be balanced out by demanding high levels of skill and practice to master, but this is still Strive, so that level of skill isn't actually that high
Funny given who won, but it's the same reason Mash Ultimate top 8s aren't 8 steves. Actually good players are disgusted by how broken HC is and don't use him, and he's not so overpowered that someone who drowns in pools can win grands with him.
Leffen is at least half decent as strive, so playing HC catapults him to the trophy.
Because there aren't eight strive players smart enough to play him well.
you're never coming back to evo smashie scum
and when the 50 year old twink dies of aids you're never getting another game
holy cringe
Pic related was the last Guilty Gear I played seriously because I was always more of a Street Fighter/DoA guy. Would I like Strive or should I just vibe with what I know (still own this game).
Xrd is pretty much the spiritual successor of #reload
no one in this thread has played anything before strive
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core +R on steam is the most updated version of that game. You might like Strive too but they're two different things.
Thanks. I'll check those out. Is Strive so fundamentally different that it's more like it's own thing, unlike KOF/SF/DoA where I can take previous game knowledge and generally apply it to the most recent iteration?
Do you incels own this shit called "xbox"???????
Americans really don't know how to build consoles.
People really gloss over Leffen being a vile piece of shit, who intentionally and systematically bullies people, just because he's good at pressing buttons in a video game.
But Hikari's championship in DBFZ is "unearned", because he used wrong pronouns on social media.
You chose this future.
Strive was going to be shit and you still bought it and played it even though people warned you.
You deserve the future you chose.