Guys? What happened? I thought Gaben was our guy? They're allowing AI Games on Steam now... Steambros what do we do...
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/3862463747997849619
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Guys? What happened? I thought Gaben was our guy? They're allowing AI Games on Steam now...
Valve is a tech lolbert company why the frick did you think they hated AI?
They hated the ambiguous legality of it. This was always the case.
>I thought Gaben was our guy?
No he's just a fat homosexual. KIND OF like you, but not really.
>Valve adds tags and filter for AI
>never have to see the slop ever again just like the LGBT tag
B-B-BASED!!!
>AI tag gets put on everything like Rogue-like, Dungeon Crawler or Metroidvania even when it doesn't apply
What now gay?
nothing of value is lost
They are making it a requirement that if ai tools are used in any part of development that it has to be disclosed to valve. This us basically the same as ai not being allowed because they seperating it from everything else and if you like they'll likely delist the game
this is an entirely reasonable stance to make - the only gay part is disallowing live generation in porn games
Probably because it could accidentally allow e-girls to be generated or something.
Not that I think e-girl porn should be disallowed either.
they're just covering their asses, it's not unexpected but still disappointing
Considering actual child pornography was found multiple times in the training dataset that every image gen model used that's a pretty fricking normal rule.
>Valve is allowing consumers to filter out AI content and incorporating measures to report illegal AI content.
It's really incredible how hard Valve Derangement Syndrome posters have been reaching to find anything wrong with the company.
trying to cash in before the UN and world govts regulate and restrict AI later this year
they announced this just before xmas that they'd be meeting in 2024 to basically shut it down because of autistic screeching from Hollywood and MSM
>character's appearance changes with their actions
>character is a token stand in for Jesus
Based, this will actually help with what I'm doing, thanks Gabe
Steam is going to get flooded with (non-live before some moron "corrects" me) ai-generated porn games thrown together in renpy or w/e though
Based Luddites lose yet again.
Total Machine Victory.
i dont care what tools a game is made with.
>adding a slop tag to filter out slop
bassssssssssssseeeeeeeeed
lmao the anti-AI gays keep losing. Today we got Nvidia Picasso, Steam AI, an AI that adds AI music to videos, and an AI that creates 3D models.
Holy shit.
the tolerant path is always the easiest, this is the case with all things not just AI. Of course AI will win. Most people in the world are pussys who want no trouble and will just roll over and get fricked.
>talks about easy paths
>trolls kids on Ganker
>likely a patreon con-artist too
ai possibly taking your "job" is the least scary thing about it.
>Nvidia Picasso
>Paid online cloud service
>Partnership between Nvidia, Adobe and Getty Images
All of them are like Satan made a company x3. I would abandon that shit asap
It's not for us, it's for CEOs that want to fire their advertisers lol. You're not going to get anything fun from a database trained on Getty.
>brown man standing in front of a tomb
Valve and Gaben knows deep down that the future of gaming is AI porn games made by 1 or 2 people in their basement. There's nothing useful on the horizon.
id rather see blockchain support, personally
no one wants nft shit except crypto grifters
He's a israelite. That is all you need to know. Suck his dick if you must, but he won't return the favour. Remember, too, that he is one of the original Microsoft millionaires.
NOOOOOOOOOO AI IS TAKING MUH VOICE ACTING JOB
HOW CAN I SELL MY Black person KULCHA TO HUMANS
>I thought Gaben was our guy?
Nobody thought this lmao
That fat worthless moron can't even maintain his games that aren't counter defense of the ancient strike slop.
Steam has NEVER been Anti-AI.
Even in the initial post they made about it, they made it explocitly clear that they were gping to study the matter more before figuring out what policy to set in place.
Can't wait to scroll past Gankeranon's "dream game" that's using image generators trained on some poor japs art.
when I can prompt models I'll start learning how to make a game
it will have boob physics and
I swear I have already seen visual novels with AI art in them on the front page.
cry more
you are obsolete
Valve has had an open borders policy for ten years now yet will still get threads and journalists asking why they don't curate more:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/gabe-newell-outlines-new-uncurated-steam-anybody-should-be-able-publish-anything
Good.
How is this different from all the bugman and asset swap trash that is already all over the store?
Its not but now they can make them much faster and for free.
I guarantee you what happened is that a bunch of major studios called them and told them that their games were going to use AI whether or not steam allowed it, so they had to back down. Every single major video game company is already using AI, and the smaller ones will soon get there too. It's moronic to not use a tool that is available to you to make game development easier. Even if all western companies refuse to use AI, companies in China/Russia/etc. will use it and then our companies are left at a blatant disadvantage.
It also just feels hypocritical to me that automating away most jobs is seen as okay, but just not these ones. Why is it okay to automate away factory jobs but not art?
artists are whiny gays it's like their lifestyle
>Why is it okay to automate away factory jobs but not art?
For some reason nu-communists think intellectual property is extremely important but physical property should be owned by the "commons". The Soviet Union didn't sign a single copyright treaty until the 70s.
>Why is it okay to automate away factory jobs but not art?
The factory owner who designed the schematics gave the okay for the automated machines to replace the humans. The artist did not give the okay for Rajesh to train a LORA of his art. I don't care if either lose their jobs, personally.
>The artist did not give the okay for Rajesh to train a LORA of his art
Yes he did, when he published it on the internet for others to see, human or not.
>Be private artist
>Never post commissions
>They get reposted by commissioners
>Rajesh makes a LORA of it
Niche scenario. Ask nicely next time.
You can't "use it" but you can certainly learn from it. You do that implicitly, all the time.
>You can't "use it" but you can certainly learn from it. You do that implicitly, all the time
You say this like artists that trace over other's work aren't mocked endlessly
Tracing means you're using the material itself in the process of drawing. AI doesn't do that.
If AI models really were just a giant database of content they would be massive and impossible to handle. You can't fit billions of images in a few gigabytes. Thankfully people who are much smarter than you have already ruled that AI training is fair use.
>Tracing means you're using the material itself in the process of drawing. AI doesn't do that
What is an AI image but a Frankenstein stitched up version of its model adjusted by any LORAs?
>heh AI merely uses its experience of seeing and creating art to make more art
Pretty sure I do the same. How the frick do you draw?
Do you really think it just stitches images together like you would do in Photoshop? Try it yourself. There's no easy way to explain this but the short answer is that an the AI model is a giant compressed dataset (intelligence is compression) that recreates images from first principles rather than encoded data like a JPG or PNG image would. An example, the best way to compress an image of a penguin is learning the concept of a penguin and drawing a new version yourself along with some basic information like "it's looking to the left" and "it's snowy outside". How the diffusion process works is that you give it random noise and ask it to denoise the image until it recreates the concepts you prompted it with. This works and it creates a new, completely original image that has never been seen before.
>Try it yourself
I have, many times
>no vae
you dipped your toe in
The "AI" doesn't learn it's a glorified search engine you dumb indian.
Well you have a strong argument there. I guess you finally did it, you defeated progress. The development of AI is cancelled and it will never draw again.
Is that how you expect this to play out
So because it exists, you can legally use it anywhere? Go try that luck with any non public domain Disney character, I'm sure the mouse will love that and not sue you into oblivion.
I think Valve put their lawyers on an AI crash course the past year.
They obviously didnt mind the MUH ETHICAL implications of AI but they were definitely werent going to ush that legal minefield.
If you read the post, a LOT of the policies involves passing on the buck to the devs and customers like always. So if the law gets spicy Valve can shit on the AI devs instead.
Valve isn't stupid nor did they ban 99% of the games with AI that have been on Steam all year. This announcement is just a timing thing, there is a ton of news releasing lately. Corps are just unloading on people to get their tears out and done with.
>Today's changes are the result of us improving our understanding of the landscape and risks in this space, as well as talking to game developers using AI, and those building AI tools.
No need to guarantee that's EXACTLY what happened. Valve was being reactionary like usual abd waiting to see how it plays out.
>EVERYONE is using AI, it’s Le magic and can think and do everything!
>why hasnt every big company cut half their workforce then?
>u-uh t-t-two weeks!
the tech is proven but products haven't been built yet
>Can filter all of the low quality slop made by indians and grifters
I'm okay with this
at least read the article illiterate gays, theres no way to filter out the AI trash
I don't give a shit what the fricks on steam. If it's a bad game, then it'll get buried and I'll never see the piece of shit. It it's a good game, then I'll play it. Stop being afraid of advancement you fricking Luddite.
Every game uses AI homie
Underrated post
Haha yes, time to become a game dev without doing any of that gay learning to code or art shit
Except of course you won't
Idea guys we won.
>NOOOO STEAM WILL BE FLOODED BY SHIT
Why do morons keep saying this?
14000 fricking games released on Steam last year and I GUARANTEE you not a single lerson even saw a fraction of a fraction of all that shovelware. AI being allowed will make no difference becUse the algorithm is set in place to weed it out.
I don't get it.
What's the issue with utilizing Ai for things.
Artgays feel threatened.
Also it'll cause human extinction eventually.
As an engineer who has worked in robotics and Ai, no it won't.
It's the industrialist libertarians posing as liberals in the FANG companies, who will kill us.
Was inevitable, but it looks like there will be strong oversight + a user reporting feature. Not too bad.
The pre-generated vs live-generated is a really good distinction to make.
We'll see how it goes.
>allows use of ai for images, sound, code, generative in game content such as interactions with npc
>overwhelming butthurt from Twitter shitters who say ai in any capacity would steal all jobs from them
I hate artists so much, voice actors too. Such sensitive pussies who are holding technology back. Learn to code right? If your job can be replaced with a few 1's and 0's then your talent wasn't ever that great or meaningful.
Unuroincally, everyone wanting 6 figure jobs in their fields is why games are dogshit these days and only indie games where people will gladly do MULTIPLE jobs in a project for the same pay are thriving
>holding technology back
Lmao you people are absolute morons. The most significant achievement of these ai companies is filling every internet search with absolute garbage.
Begone surface level pseud
not against AI as a concept but current """ai""" can't create it can only steal like Black folk
so don't buy them then?
Look at this homosexual with 41,000 likes from a day ago.
That's 41,000 people simply just B T F O
lmfao
The only reason why I go to AI threads were to read the posts made by people who genuinely love artists' works.
It doesn't matter how few they are, just knowing that they exist has made me want to keep doing what I love to do.
based and I care, keep posting about what you want
>Capitalism sale is still going
>Valve announces that AI is good to go
It his based or nah?
Well Ganker? Making a game has never been easier now. What's your excuse?
won't you feel stupid when AI actually makes it easier to make video games?
People that use AI are consoomers, not creators.
That game will never get made.
I love AI because it makes 'artistic' people seethe.
Don't care about Gaben or Valve, though.