>had one bad entry this year
>has now completely faded into obscurity
What went so wrong with Fire Emblem?
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>had one bad entry this year. >has now completely faded into obscurity
Awakening
fpbp, i'm so tired of all the busy work and sim dating inbetween missions
Engage lack of dating sim put it on a bad spotlight, expect more of that
Engage still has a lot of downtime between missions, though. It's less that 3H but still a lot more than I would like.
Awakening ensured more FE games were made.
There just isn't big enough audience to make classic style FE games.
People need to realize it.
And you need to realize that people who like older styles of games do not give two shits enough to make a whole frick about a corporations potential large profits. Squarenix seems to be the only one with enough balls to put out games niches want to play.
Drop the resources from 3d, animations, dialogue and put them into a roguelike strategy game with perma-death and a recruit system based on gold with only the main character being persistent through runs. IS will never do it
I would buy something like it if it's somehow balanced
>Fire Emblem is shit for years and is about to die
>Awakening comes along and saves the franchise, spawning multiple sequels
>homosexual FE 'fans' blame it for saving their shitty franchise
>save your medieval strategy game franchise by turning it into strategy-less dating sim Persona knock off.
Gee thanks
>muh classic fe strategy
gee do i move my paladin the game gave me chapter 1 forward duhhhhh i dont know
Can you stop doomposting for 5 fricking minutes?
Also, first post already answered your question.
The moment it went from permadeath strategy to waifu pandering dating garbage a lot of people decided to not touch it again.
it was always waifu pandering from the very beginning
the first "waifu pandering dating garbage" game sold more all than the "permadeath strategy" games combined; so not only did an actual very few number of people "decided not to touch it again", they got supplanted by several fold, congrats on revealing how bitter you are, though
Ah yes
The classic
>Eat shit, millions of flies cant he wrong
Yes, anon
Awakening is the best FE game
Super mario party and The Origami King are the best in their series
And chrono trigger is the best jrpg of all time
didn't say anything about quality, you moron
But it sold more than the previous ones
If it sold more it means more people played it and if more people played it its better
That means it is the best isnt it?
so since FE4?
>some characters marry eachother
>this is waifu pandering
Disingenious moron.
The love system in FE4 was a minor thing with even less to it than the support system in the GBA games if you ignore the second generation. Each pairing gets like 2 lines of text. And the existence of child units was deeply relevant to the narrative and not shoehorned in.
Literally the exact opposite happened
So Fe4
Are you serious? Sales increased about 8 billion % and they all became the best selling FE's ever you moron
Engage is still the best FE.
>i-if there's not a fire emblem game announced every day, t-that means the series is dead!!
go away moron
>I'm glad all tellius newcomers who circlejerked on the fe4 remake got btfo so hard
Fire Emblem is just for gacha coomers now
BUT ALL GACHA IS FOR COOMERS
At least now they are honest about it. Every new OC is a girl with humongous knockers and each banner is 80% female.
>each banner is 80% female
It's been that way since the start, to the point where some games have almost no female characters left, but plenty of guys. For example, I want to say that FE7 only has Isadora and Vaida left.
Really? I didn't remember it being like this before. Obviously there has always been a female bias even though the cast of the mainline games has always been predominantly male.
gay shippers taking over the series
Kek. Engage is so shit. Lucina has to come and save the franchise again. A sequel to Awakening should be made
Engage was bad enough to be a franchise killer. Sold like shit for NUFE standards and most the people who played it hated it. Wouldn't be surprised if they remade 3H or Awakening.
this, it doesn't even get shilled in the gacha. nobody cares about it.
This is actually the wildest thing to me. IS leans on new FE games really hard in FE Heroes to push orb sales. They did it with Fates, Echoes, and Three Houses. But it's been FIVE MONTHS since Engage came out, and how many Engage characters are in Heroes? Five. All of them on a banner that released alongside the game in January. Five straight months ignoring Engage in favor of titles like Binding Blade. Dorothy got into Heroes before a 6th Engage character! SAUL and FIR got SECOND VERSIONS before a 6th Engage character! This is who IS thinks will sell better than Engage's cast.
Fire Emblem is so fricking cooked right now.
>Dorothy got into Heroes before a 6th Engage character! SAUL and FIR got SECOND VERSIONS before a 6th Engage character!
Okay that's actually really fricked up, maybe something is wrong here
it's painfully clear they have zero confidence in engage. it's why people are so convinced they're dropping a new game sometime next year.
or they are holding engayge hostage trying to save heroes (lol lmfao)
It's been 5 months (it will technically be 6 months by the time the next new heroes banner rolls around kek), the iron is getting colder every day. The honeymoon period is over, and there's only so much Yunaka's breasts will be able to do
Heroes has been out for what 6 years? 7? Its more amazing that the cast of all the games released before Heroes arent already in the game.
There was a large stretch of time where they dumped tons of 3H characters to the point where 3H now has better representation than some games that were in Heroes at launch. They've also been devoting at least one slot per banner for overpowered alternate versions of popular characters instead of introducing more new ones. That said, some games like Echoes are practically out of characters, so they're doing all they can to stretch them out.
This can't be true, tell me IS isn't actually prioritizing literally whos in their gachashit money printing machine before Engage characters.
it's true
also the spin-off of three houses gets more attention than engage does, it's actually kind of hilarious
You're fricking with me, they're doing Warriors characters before Engage? What's the damage, how many Shezes are there?
5?
4
IT'S SO FRICKING OVER
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS AND NOT THINK ENGAGE IS FRIED
There's 5
MShez
FShez
Legendary FShez
Summer MShez
Summer FShez
who the frick asked for this
Me.
Shez is one of my favorite protagonists from this franchise tee bee aych.
Good taste
Me homie
If they add one more Shez there will be as many Shez alts as there are Engage characters.
oh my god
This is the most dire thing I've heard about this franchise in a long time. We really are going back to the days of unlocalized FEs, huh. Either that or they just go back to pumping out Fodlanshit because it's all they think the gaijin want
>We really are going back to the days of unlocalized FEs
you will go to the now pander to global homosexual and moronic americans or die
You Black folk are so fricking insufferable. Engage has probably already sold more than 2 million copies. We've fine.
>You Black folk are so fricking insufferable. Engage has probably already sold more than 2 million copies.
no chance
xeno 3 had a bigger opening with better reviews and word of mouth and still hasn't reached 2 million
for it to have sold another 400k copies since march it would need stronger legs than not just xeno 3 but also fricking three houses. not happening.
Clearly entirely by accident, judging from the way most players and IS itself seem to be regarding Engage.
3 FShez
2 MShez
1 Hopes Annette
1 Hopes Dorothea
1 Arval
1 Hopes Ingrid
1 Holst
1 Monica
1 Hopes Hilda
1 Hopes Byleth
Engage has:
1 FAlear
1 Alfred
1 Lumera
1 Etie
1 Celine
1 Chloe
They haven't even done a Hopes Dimitri/Edelgard/Claude banner yet. Another interesting thing is that usually new games get two slots in the banner rotation, but Engage only got one and Fodlan got two instead, one for Hopes and one for Houses. They had zero confidence in Engage selling well or being positively received.
>filler spin offs getting more rep than mainline
Looks like FE is stealing from Mario again.
Im sure they alsp took more than half a year to start churning out 3H units.
They wete fast with the 3 hopes units, im sure they just see it as more 3 Houses.
I think internally they just may not see it as a mainline game. Even the marketing for it was bad, TMS got shilled harder.
Imo they are stalling on Engage heroes because the next game is years away, there's no need to rush rn
It sold 1.6 million.
>less than half of the previous entry + extremely negative player reviews
Yeah, it's a franchise killer.
Valentia sold way less than Fates.
>b-but it's a remake
Doesn't matter. It's a video game.
The reviews are stellar, though.
Valentia was released on a dead system.
Engage is going to do Fire Emblem what Wind Waker and Four Swords Adventure almost did to Zelda.
Delusional.
It only sold that much because of residual hype from 3H. This now makes the next FE face an uphill battle sales-wise, because it has to overcome the badwill Engage single-handedly created.
>This now makes the next FE face an uphill battle sales-wise, because it has to overcome the badwill Engage single-handedly created.
yep it will be hard times for the next shitty FEggot game
Engage simply purged normalgays with shit taste.
Nami Komuro is a turbonormalgay though
Pikazo is literally the embodiment of a goyslop zoomer artist and most of the Engage devs come from the Awakening dev team, a normiecore game. Engage elitists are so fricking bizarre. It was made by the Fateswakening team explicitly to appeal to zoomers.
Pikazo is an amazing artist, the best this fricking franchise ever had.
>subpar drawings + color vomit
Pikazo is a hack and there's a reason she only gets hired to do vtubers.
No offense anon but Shitnasu and even your beloved Senri Kita make that trash too.
Those two were established character artists for anime, manga and video games that later did vtubers on the side. Pikazo is a vtuber artist people are suddenly treating as professionals because zoomers retweeted her. She fundamentally doesn't understand character design so it's unsurprising her characters have no fans.
Pikazo did art for gachas like FGO, Sakura Wars and Star Ocean LONG before Vtuber shit moron. Do your own research before saying stupid shit holy frick.
>character is literally a vtuber idol
Pikazo can design one thing and it's moeblob idols. She even admitted she struggles with adults in the Engage interviews. She's a hack.
>Moeblob idols
Source on that interview? I sure couldn't find that claim of yours.
>Tei: Well, I thought it'd be better to be upfront about the request. That said, there was one concern she had. Since she usually draws young characters, she was concerned about her confidence level in some of the character design. It's true that the designer's skills should not be limited to drawing cool nobles and young girls. In Fire Emblem, there are a variety of characters like hardened soldiers, and on top of that they need to be able to draw armor, weapons, and creatures like Pegasuses.
https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-8-fire-emblem-engage-part-2/
She shouldn't have been a Fire Emblem artist. She doesn't have the skills for it.
>She doesn't have the skills for it
It's sad how true this is. All of her "adult" designs here look like a damn joke.
Reminder that Saphir is supposed to be 30 and Pikazo drew her as a 70 year old Hag.
Reminder that Vander is supposed to be 40 and somehow looks like a 70 year old.
Reminder that Lindon is supposed to be an old man but looks like a 16 year old with a fake beard.
Vander looks like a high schooler wearing a fake beard if anything
Hey blame the moronic art director who suggested her in first place. that's the fricker who should get fired but they were so busy chasing the genshit audience.
>She shouldn't have been a Fire Emblem artist. She doesn't have the skills for it.
And in that same interview you posted she proves you wrong. Based moron.
Not really because all of her non-moeblob characters legitimately do look like shit.
False and there's a lot of examples of this too. I can post these all day.
I can only think of Timerra.
The samehomosexualry is off the charts today.
>posts another example proving anon right
>descends into schizophrenic fantasies where every poster is the same person
What did anon mean by this?
another example proving anon right
How in your schizophrenic mind is Diamante a Moeblob?
Here. Dumbass.
He looks exactly like a "soft" vtuber boy I have seen hundreds of times in thumbnails because youtube doesn't understand I don't like vtubers
>He looks exactly like a "soft" vtuber boy I have seen hundreds of times in thumbnails because youtube doesn't understand I don't like vtubers
What a fricking stretch, no wonder you have a gaping anus. So wanna point me out the Vtuber that looks like this then?
>Inb4 moeblob XDddd
>So wanna point me out the Vtuber that looks like this then?
literally that space b***h from hoe-girlve who graduated
>trying to use one of the four clowns to argue engage has good character design
lmao come the frick on man
Literally good to perfect designs.
Here. I'll post an actual front on view for you where 80% of his design isn't covered by a cloak or sword.
Oh wait, it looks overdesigned and moronic. Like every Pikazo FE design, because she was not fit for a medieval fantasy game.
It's pretty rough that the best Engage design still only caps at "okay"
How is this overdesigned???
>Armor plate
>Royalty cape
>Shoulder pad
>2 belts to keep the armor in place and for the sword scabbard
??? Are you genuinely moronic?
>because she was not fit for a medieval fantasy game.
Does one HAVE to more or less "fit" for a Medieval fantasy anime game?, Kita is beloved but he got his start working on SNK games. Kozaki genuinely isn't bad either and his work is more based in modern stuff like the NMH games. I do think Pikazo shouldn't have been chosen to do a Mainline FE. Just slap on her FEH and let her go crazy
>medieval fantasy game.
Engage is post-apocalyptic fantasy, not midieval.
Now post him from the front where 90% of his design isn't being covered by a red sheet and show the class how moronic and overdesigned his outfit is.
Diamant is one of the least offensive ones and he still looks like shit.
I like Timerra as an exotic character design.
I hate Celine, Hortensia, Panette, and Alear. Then there are ones I'm iffy on like Seadall and Yunaka.
Panette being a e-girlta and wearing face painting to stand out as more royal is a pretty good design choice. I like Celine wearing royal dresses like that, and I like that despite going for the same aesthetic both Celine and Hortensia stand out from each other due to the different dress wear and overall color scheme, one wears Ball Gowns that were often flaunted and the other a Royalty dress specifically made to stand out
Also face painting is moronic but I blame England for it because this was a real thing
My issue with Panette is the drawn on stitches, mostly
Someone post the edit with no make up
They should have tried to remove the red from the eye make-up, too.
>drawn on stitches
She actually teared the sides of her mouths trying to blow Alear.
>the sides of her mouths
>mouthS, plural form
Was this on purpose, anon?
Lmao, no, not really, but from now on i'm just going to say it on purpose
Mine was that her speech gimmick of being inept at using keigo got old after about five lines of dialogue
80% of Engage characters look good, but then you have that really dumb 20%
>she proves you wrong
>posts an excerpt that proves anon right
What did anon mean by this?
>proves you wrong
>posts a collage of some of the ugliest non-FE looking characters in the franchise
??? You just proved him right.
Play a Fire Emblem game, then you'll see how poorly Engage fits in.
They should have used Yoshiku if they had to pick a nu-artist lord knows the guy is probably tired of being the FEH OC maker these days
And then twitter trannies and kaga boomers will have a meltdown its a no win situation
yoshiku should be the artist for the FE4 remake
we all know they're going to butcher it so they might as well go full coom
Imagine hiring cuboon to do a full FE game. Reddit already grabs their pitchforks whenever IS hires him to draw a single character for Heroes, they'd pull a KyoAni if he was brought on to do the whole thing
>All those seething reddit posts accusing him of using AI
lel
Mayumi Hirota never did.
nice trips too bad she will be sent to the gacha gulag
nice word salad Black person
Pikazo is the best artist this franchise had ever had. The mistake was not USING said art in the main game you fricking semen slurping moron.
100%. I don't see persona troons make something like this for Engage, and that's a good thing.
what rom hack is this and where's the feu page?
It's for some kind of 3H hack, maybe you can find it by googling Jade Wyverns
>nobody gives a frick about this game because it's just not interesting. And this is good.
Yeah, i think you might be heavily moronic. Maybe IS could ask you to write the next game's storyline.
>not interesting to mentally ill fanfic writers
Yeah, that's a good thing, I don't give a rats ass how many copies the game sells as long as more games get made and unless the sales drop far below a million there's no danger of that
And I'd rather not get further FE games than only garbage like 3H I'll never replay for its gameplay
>And I'd rather not get further FE games than only garbage like 3H I'll never replay for its gameplay
That's because unfortunately you are heavily moronic. Corrin would look like a genius compared to you, lol.
Yeah keep eating shit and telling yourself you're smart to do so
Engage purged both normalgays and FE fans with good taste
Congrats on killing your franchise over elitism lmao
I can't believe Engage flopped so hard they shitcanned the FE4 remake entirely. Bros, I think we're about to go through the post FE11 dark ages *again*. The franchise is dead until further notice.
We just got a game. Why do you all expect them to pump out another one so soon?
FEggots need big slops or their threads die.
All it takes is one bad game to ruin everything
See: Sonic
We had awakening and are still going, so I'm pretty sure FE could survive anything, even three houses edelgard shitposting.
This series still lived after Shadow Dragon, tho.
Shadow Dragon was also a cheap DS game
barely, its sequel didn't even get localized
Imagine if the FE4 remake is real but doesn't leave Japan because IS thinks the West has lost its appetite for FE again
>See: Sonic
Sonic literally hat 10 bad games in a row
Sonic is almost all bad games
>had one bad entry
Reading comprehension
Fire Emblem hasn't had a good entry since 5.
Frick Fire Emblem and frick anyone who wants it at this point.
Digits confirm.
>776
>776
Using vtuber shit and how moronic MC look
isnt FE a gacha series now?
wait, Engage was bad? I don't pay attention to FE after Fates because that was the only good FE
Engage is literally Conquest, but with a less shit story turned into a extremely corny and generic one.
is it? it's ugly as sin, i don't like looking at gachashit tier designs, so i never took a peak at the gameplay.
There's like 8 gacha tier designs. The rest can range from generic FE axeman tier to generic lord.
No. It's Conquest but worse. Gameplay is shittier and the characters are offensively ugly and annoying.
The maps in engage aren't as memorable as the maps in conquest. I remember people talking about fuga's wild ride, chapter 10, and ninja cave for years.
No one wants to play something with generic, corny anime visuals and rehashed characters.
>What went so wrong with Fire Emblem?
Three Houses and the secondaries it brought in
Which game do I start with? I've had no exposure to the franchise.
Three Houses is the most popular one for new players, best selling game in the franchise. If you want to try the gameplay without making a purchase yet emulate one of the GBA titles.
Engage I would not recommend for a newbie. It can be difficult and the game heavily uses old characters as a crutch to make up for a new cast that is extremely shitty. You'll get more enjoyment out of it if you play it later.
Three Houses (Switch) or Awakening (3DS) are the newbie emblems.
Out of those two if you want a heavy story and setting go for 3H, if you want quirky anime stuff go for Awakening.
There's plenty of quirky animeshit in 3H, the big difference between it and Awakening is that 3H actually puts some effort into worldbuilding and focuses on politics like an older FE would
if you dont mind the gba sprites then fe8 (sacred stones) is a good game to start with.
if you find yourself liking that game you can then move on to fe7 (and eventually fe6, which is a sequel)
Vestaria Saga.
As a FE tourist who grabs the occasional game, they always just feel a little half baked. It has the Pokemon syndrome that its been going on so long with veteren devs yet they never seem to have the passion to make a fully polished and realized game, always cheap money grab copy pastes. Even 3H which is considered a big favorite from what I can tell, still feels unfinished at times.
3H is far more unfinished and unpolished than Engage, people are just more open to a story that takes itself seriously and tries to have a complex story than something intentionally light hearted with over the top designs that repel anyone that's not fine with extremely anime shit
3H has horrendous plots in all of its shitty samey routes and garbage gameplay on terrible maps that are constantly recycled, but because the characters don't act or look like clowns it's reputation will forever be better
An even bigger difference between them is that not EVERYONE is (You)sexual regardless of gender.
All of that and yet by leagues a better game and more beloved than Engayd, stay mad, Colgategays!
Beloved by moronic normies that buy into a shallow promise of "complexity", everything about 3H except the character writing is bottom of the barrel for the franchise, especially the gameplay and maps, but guess what those homosexuals don't care about that aspect at all, they play on normal/casual autopilot and just want to watch supports and ship their characters
For those people yeah 3H is a better and more beloved game, but that's not something I'll ever care about
>calling it engayd when everyone in 3prostitutes is byleth-sexual
>this attention whoring homosexual again
he'll probably net some guaranteed replies too, frick this gay board
>3H has horrendous plots in all of its shitty samey routes and garbage gameplay on terrible maps that are constantly recycled, but because the characters don't act or look like clowns it's reputation will forever be better
Jesus Christ, I fricking hate RPG fans in general. If the game isn't good gameplay wise, then it isn't a good fricking game. Writing does not matter nearly as much.
Frick off moron
half of an rpg is its writing lmao
go play call of duty or something you fricking moron
>half of an rpg is its writing lmao
What does the G in RPG stand for? Sure, writing is a big part of the game, but it is not THE main concern; that should always be the gameplay. The writing could be the peak of video games, but that doesn't mean shit if the game is awful to control, play, and so on.
what do the R and P stand for
NTA but you play a role to command an army
Go play a visual novel homosexual
You're 100% right
3H's writing isn't good either
you don't like rpgs
>now shitty reviews matter
Kaga left.
Vestaria Saga is mid, time to move on
>What went so wrong with Fire Emblem?
Everything after Radiant Dawn.
Will they finally fire Komuro after this?
Nope.
Another Pikazo + Komuro slopfest that halves the sales of the next entry too.
can't wait to not play it while I enjoy the older games and kaga's sagas
God, I hope so. Fire all the writers of Awakening, Fates, and Engage.
Fire Maeda and stop forcing brown "people" into Fire Emblem.
I hate tribalistic shitposting
>engage has good gameplay
where?
>Telliusgay doesn't recognize good gameplay when it hits him in the face
It's the same gameplay but with FMVs every encounter. That automatically makes it better in the zoomer mind.
It happens because simply people get mad over the series because each game is just different enough to cause discrepancies in multiple traits.
FE for all the good it brings is not a untied series in overarching vision and so has cultivated not just a Fanbase but like 5 different Fanbases it will ignore and cultivate a new one.
Engage's story is adequate. It gets the job done and doesn't endlessly drag out a bunch of developments that everybody can see coming from a mile off. The characters are just terrible. If you put the 3H cast into a generic Good vs Evil story then it would still be good, although not as good as the actual 3H story and world.
>The characters are just terrible.
the characters seem shittier because the world has zero lore or worldbuilding
a quirky character can be made more interesting by having an interesting place in the world or fighting for an interesting motivation
engage characters have nothing like that because elyos is a blank slate. none of them are fighting for anything other than they worship alear. there is no secondary motivation for any of them.
sorry the Idiot systems were more worried about making everyone kissing Alear's fake divine ass and that shitty multiplayer that is filled with hackers.
>there is no secondary motivation for any of them
Celine wants to preserve the peace in Firene. Diamante wants to reform the Brodian ways as they have caused prejudice to Elusia for years. Hortensia simply wants to go back to her old days of peace at school. Ivy intends to restore the country after Sombron is dealt with. Timerra is simply being sent out as a watchover because Solm wants some guarantee that they won't get fricked over Alear's actions. Both Framme and Clanne are accompanying Alear because they are knights in training from a lineage specifically meant to watch over him. Veyle wants to stop her father over a promise she made to her own mother and to gain peace of mind. Alear is extra pissed Sonbrom used his mother as a puppet and doesn't want to let him get away with everything he did.
Characters clearly have an agency even when some like Yunaka just go "yeah I don't really care if this port gets rebuilt or not, it's not my problem."
and none of this is compelling in game because every country is underdeveloped and uninteresting so you have no reason to care about them
>and none of this is compelling in game because every country is underdeveloped and uninteresting so you have no reason to care about them
This has been the case for literally every single Fire Emblem game and it has not hindered the enjoyment I get out of characters. FE's worldbuilding aside from Genealogy and Thracia who uses that same established WB has always been very barebones and surface level because it doesn't need it.
Did you not play the Tellius games? Hell, I'd say Three Houses/Hopes has really good worldbuilding as well.
Yeah, we know literally nothing about those places beyond those surface level statements. But then again what did I expect from a game that goes
>here is this place it's the flower world
>look these guys live in red mountain place
>fighting in the desert sands
>now these guys live in cold evil land
In the intro without a shred of irony
>The characters are just terrible.
You didn't watch the supports.
This! So much this! Engage supports are peak dialogue and not written by redditors at all!
Why can't they go back to VN-style cutscenes for supports?
It's truly incredible how every single Pandreo support is exactly the same thing
>every single X support is exactly the same thing
You've just described Awakening, Fates and Engage. That's how Komuro writes.
Who would actually use Vander long enough to see that support?
It's quite funny that gachaBlack folk who don't play the series are the ones crying about Engage not being in Heroes the most.
Wow FE gays really need goyslop or they truly die.
treehouse
Fire Emblem was not the franchise for Pikazo. She would have done better working on Xenoblade or Persona. Something with a more modern setting.
I think she'd have done great in Pokemon. Iono already looks like a Pikazo character and she was a homerun in that game
>xenoblade
jeez do you want those poor Black folk to have a heart attack?
No
>They didn't announce more FE when Engage is still getting DLC waves
Is Pokémon dead, too?
>Is Pokémon dead, too?
I hope so
Pokemon has been dead ever since the DS era
Engage is done with DLC.
Eshop still shows wave 3 and 4 coming, unless I'm moronic. I have actual brain damage. So, it's not impossible.
Generation 9's broken graphics, boring gameplay loop, useless online multiplayer, and glitched raids have killed pokemon, yes. Raids are hard to find aside from events and even then, they're not fun. GameFreak has done nothing to fix anything and now they're still trying to sell DLC lol. The new legendary pokemon also look terrible, and I say this as someone that thinks everything gen 1-8 has ranged from good to acceptable even if I don't like it.
Ash no longer being the protagonist in the show has also killed pokemon. He was the last thing nostalgiagays had and the new characters lack any kind of soul and feel a lot like the transition from Naruto to Boruto.
Pokemon has never been more dead than it is right now. Detective Pikachu 2 can't save shit.
but three houses released in 2019? engage just came out early this year and it was fine
>We got a game just a few months ago, where's my new game? I must consoom!
Jesus frick I hope the series gets axed forever just to spite you.
Well it sure looks like it from here so I guess you won
If anything it's good it sold like shit because it means we're not Pokemon tier yet where they can afford to shit out trash games with a horde of consumers who will keep the franchise alive no matter what.
>If anything it's good it sold like shit because it means we're not Pokemon tier yet
People consumed Three Houses on a whim, AND it's shitty warriors spin-off. You must be kidding yourself if you think the FE fanbase isn't already beyond saving.
People thought 3H would be good based on the trailers, they only found out later that all the routes were recycled and they intentionally showed very little actual map gameplay because it's among the worst in the series
>Was pretty stoked trying my second route in 3H
>Kept getting recycled map after recycled map
Was pretty bummed after that
Who would though normal Black folk really loved their persona emblem school game
it's not a bad entry.
It's the worst.
Shit characters
Shit story
Shit gameplay
name a single redeeming quality about engage that doesn't expose you as a shitskin zoomer
Yo
Anyone can help a moron out
I need this but with kirby instead of toothpaste i am at work so i cant
>arena exists without being an RNG infinite grind spot
>e-girl anna
>intentionally wastes your time between maps
>needs to buy a game cuz pedo shit despite being able to look it up for free
>name a single x
>D-DOESN'T COUNT
every time
and none of the reasons compells anyone to buy the game
literally just look up a let's play if you want to look at cutscenes
Post skin color
Ironic coming from a western jugtroony who never played the game.
>i don't like what you're saying so I'm gonna make shit up
>that will show him
Well 4 wastes your time in the maps, it's completely different!
t. never got good
Gameplay is the second best in the series, sorry you have terminal shittaste or can't differentiate between multiple aspects of a game without getting biased
3HRtroony can't recognize good gameplay if it slapped they/them in the face
The good thing is that engage was poorly received but not to the point of killing the franchise
So there will be a next fire emblem , and it won't be similar to engage
I skipped Engage because by Awakening gameplay had fallen off the rails Conquest is overrated as frick and what was keeping me playing the games afterwards was shipping, which has also been abandoned. Feels like they keep alienating parts of the player base.
>Conquest is overrated as frick
real
and I say this as someone who likes it
engage represents a great gameplay evolution. if the next fire emblem game can have engage or better gameplay while also having story/characters for the secondaries then everyone's happy.
maybe fe4 remake is that game.
Not a controversial opinion
Treehouse localization censorship.
Game so bad it bombed twice.
>This shit had better reviews than Soul Hackers 2
Megaten is dead
https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemThreeHouses/comments/146c8cf/1st_ever_3h_hack_with_custom_story_and_characters/
i found the hack
>they all look like trannies
>the lead literally sounds like a troony
I can hear the hrt in those voices
>had a release just earlier this year
>doesn't show up for one (1) direct
>acts like Engage killed the entire franchise
3HRTs are mentally ill.
Can i get a run down on Engage please?
They wanted to make a game that appealed to elementary schoolers so they rehired the worst writer at the company and then hired Pikazo to make rainbow designs to appeal to six year olds. Engage's gameplay is decent and its desperately trying to hold together an FE game that is a clusterfrick by every other metric. People were seriously disappointed in it after 3H which is considered the best game in the franchise.
Best gameplay in years, but the artstyle was shit and the story was all but non-existent. The previous game was the exact opposite and attracted tons of persona gays who have been b***hing non-stop about the lack of dating sim elements since its release. Engage is a bit too easy even on the hardest difficulty, but otherwise is easily the 3rd or 4th best game in the series.
Engage released 5 months ago.
>Consistent 2-3 year main series release schedule gone unbroken since the NES
>No Word on a new game when the latest mainline title, and an anniversary game at that, literally just realeased this year
>”FIRE EMBLEM IS DED!”
>Franchise can no longer be discussed because the fanbase will tear itself apart warring over which game was better
>Shitposters and avatargays join in because of easy (You)'s
Seen it happen to Monster Hunter as well
Engage being a nostalgiabait thread for a franchise where most of the modern fanbase has only played three (awakening, fates, three houses) of the sixteen games was very odd.
>thread
meant game
Not to mention including characters from several games that western players don't know at all
Yeah Engage would make a bit more sense as a JP-only title. But even then the franchise exploded after 13 so no matter how you slice it millions of people only really know 13-15.
Do japs even like that game? Is there a non troonyhouse translated version?
There is a mod, but people will call you a pedophile
Engage's flop hit them very hard.
Luckily 3H's success was big enough so it's not over yet, but another failure could very well be the end of the franchise, so for now they stopped everything to think very carefully about what to do.
You're absolutely delusional if you think that even Engage level sales would be enough to sustain a franchise, there are tons of franchises that sell less with similar production values
wouldn't* obviously
At this point Nintendo has some expectation from FE games. Barely scrapping by is not gonna cut it.
It's bad enough that the FE game developed by someone else beated every single one of IS' ones. But even without that, Engage's reception was not really great, both reviewers and gamers weren't very enthusiast.
They definitely need to avoid repeating a mistake like that.
Engage is threatened by a musou spinoff. That's pathetic.
It isn't threatened, it's been completely overshadowed by said musou spinoff.
See: the way Shez has completely outdone all of Engage in Heroes
>See: the way Shez has completely outdone all of Engage in Heroes
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for proving his point. Shez was a solo banner and is two tiers ahead of the other solo banners.
>Shez outdid all of Engage!
>Shez did not outdo Engage's one banner
>Y-you just proved his point!
Honestly it is pretty fricking stupid that Shez already has 5 units when 3 Copes came out last year.
sheez bombaaaaaa
>all of Engage
1 banner?
That doesn't mean anything. Sigurd, who's game released 25 years ago, outdid literally every nuFE Lord. And he did this in Golden Week, which is usually one of FEH's worst weeks (as it competes with other Gachas). For reference, the only other Lord pictured who debuted on Golden Week is Edelgard.
Weren't Sigurd's skills like game breakingly good at the time of his release in FEH?
Every single one of these characters was powercreep when they released, with the exception of Edelgard and Dimitri. In fact, Sigurd has dropped off while Chrom, the Byleths, Shez, Robin and Yuri are all good. Yuri in particular basically dominated the new game mode he got added near for months. Sigurd is just THAT beloved. Both of Sigurd's alts, his OG form and his Dancer alt, also did really well. IIRC his Ballroom alt did basically the same as his Legendary Alt with 18JP.
the begging of the fall, also you should post Deirdre sales too because only normalgays care about redditgurd the barbecue cuck.
True
The danger is that the IS guys will let their pride take precedence and try to surpass 3H with their own formula instead of learning from Engage's failure.
This is a dishonest narrative. 3 Houses was an unprecedented success, claiming that every game needs to match it or surpass it to be labelled as a success is dishonest bullshit, that's not how business works.
Yeah the problem is that idiot systems will try to chase whatever shit make more money because they have zero north on where to take the series so don't complain when they do their shitty take on 3H seeing all that criticism they got from Engage.
Please show where i said it needs to match the sales.
Claiming someone else said something they didn't to criticize it is dishonest narrative.
>1.6 mil in 2 months alone is "barely scrapping by" despite that being an incredible success for FE standards
3 Houses ruined your brain
oh, changing argument?
You claimed i said it needed to match the sales, and it is dishonest narrative.
I asked to show where is said that.
Still waiting for you to show you are not a massive liar.
Nope, that was my argument from the getgo. It's fricking stupid to say these sales are "scraping by". That is a dishonest narrative, 1.6 mil is enough and claiming it isn't means you expected 3 Houses numbers, moron.
Poor homosexual-kun, your memory fails you. Let me help you. Here is what you wrote:
>This is dishonest narrative. 3 Houses was an unprecedented success, claiming that every game needs to match it or surpass it to be labelled as a success is dishonest bullshit, that's not how business works.
You may backpedal as much as you want, but there is no trace about how much Engage sold. You only said that claiming it needs to match 3H is dishonest narrative.
Of course i didn't say that, so you are the dishonest one.
You specifically said that Engage sales are barely scrapping by despite it blatantly being a success for a series like FE. That is a dishonest narrative you fricking moron, project and deflect all you want, you're trying to downplay its success you dishonest moron.
Irrelevant, homosexual.
You said the dishonest narrative was me saying it needs to match 3H's sales, which i never claimed, you filthy liar.
It's not irrelevant, dipshit. Your dishonest narrative was downplaying the sales, which is the truth, it is not scraping by which was consistently my point. 3 Houses ruined your brain.
Talk what you want, you still outed yourself as a filthy liar, lol.
Engage's sales are not as good as you are trying to claim. The series has kept growing and growing, and all of a sudden you have a massive stepback. Maybe YOU would feel good about it, if you are also a failure other than a liar.
>nearly 2 mil sales for a January release
>massive setback
moron
You are a moron that lacks basic reading comprehension. Your point is so shit you resort to dishonest projection.
>The series is growing and growing
>That MUST mean Engage had to outperform or sell as much as 3 Houses or it's a failure
3 Houses ruined your brain. You don't know how business works.
>>The series is growing and growing
>>That MUST mean Engage had to outperform or sell as much as 3 Houses or it's a failure
You are even unable to make logical thoughts, dear filthy liar samegayging anon. At least you are funny to talk with.
Pot kettle black, moron.
>despite it blatantly being a success for a series like FE
Not really.
It would have been a massive success 10 years ago. Nowadays it's just ok-ish.
Definitely not a flop, obviously, but not something they should feel like celebrating about.
It's a modest success. Not a smash hit but it's still a success. Especially with Engage being a throwaway anniversary game that was made to advertise Heroes.
I stand by my opinion that is ok-ish, but i'm not gonna argue about it.
I just doubt they are very satisfied, though i'm sure they are not coinsidering it a failure, since it's still among the best FE games in terms of sales.
But still, the series has been on a very positive trend since awakening, and this was the first step back, and not exactly a very little one, i think?
Actually, i don't remember the numbers. How are Engage's sales compared to Awakening, Fates and 3H? Anyone here knows?
According to the wiki Awakening sold 2.35 mil, Fates sold 3.05 mil and 3H sold 3.82 mil
They need to go harder on the nostalgia bait!
Instead of being pieces of equipment they should just bring back the fan favourites as playable characters.
I don't want more dumb dragons
Frick that shit, just give a dating sim game where i'm Corrin's boyfriend
Frick that, give me a game where I can frick her hot sister
Yo why she still wyte?????
So these people went out to war like that?
If you answer is no, your appeal to realism argument has no point. It looks like shit.
>So these people went out to war like that?
If they were forced to go to war and caught by surprise then yes. First instance you meet Celine in both her and her guards get caught by surprise from Corrupted flooding the place. Hortensia gets dragged from school into war to the request of her father (didn't even have formal retainers Rosado and Goldmary were just mates from school)
Dumbass. You cant even make a good argument because you clearly have not touched the game you are trying to diss. Fricking waste of breath.
>If they were forced to go to war and caught by surprise then yes
So no they didn't in real life which makes your appeal to realism moronic. That was courtwear and women didn't go out to war anyway.
>First instance you meet Celine in both her and her guards get caught by surprise from Corrupted flooding the place. Hortensia gets dragged from school into war to the request of her father
And yet they wear the same outfits and make-up when at war for months. So again your appeal to realism is moronic.
You don't actually have an argument.
>So no they didn't in real life
>and women didn't go out to war anyway
Invasions are a thing you absolute dipshit.
>And yet they wear the same outfits and make-up when at war for months.
They literally wear different outfits at the Sommie you actual moron. Not to mention reclasses being a thing. How do you breathe?
Yunaka specifically wants to distance herself from the cold assassin shtick that flooded her life during her youth, as drastically as possible.
>They literally wear different outfits at the Sommie you actual moron. Not to mention reclasses being a thing. How do you breathe?
In. Battle. Your appeal to realism is that this is something teenagers would be wearing at war. That is not true. Their designs never change when they aren't in a court setting. You're trying to use realism in a game that is fundamentally unrealistic.
>Your appeal to realism is that this is something teenagers would be wearing at war
If they got caught in an invasion yes.
>Their designs never change when they aren't in a court setting
>>>What is class reclassing
>If they got caught in an invasion yes.
And they're caught in an invasion for a grand total of five minutes after which they have months to change and they don't. They aren't caught in an invasion at that point.
>>>What is class reclassing
So Hortensia takes her sticker off if you reclass her? Celine cuts her hair? No.
Also we're talking about Hortensia who has a canon class where she still dresses in her court clothes at war. Your appeal to realism is moronic. Engage is not realistic so it can't be used as a defence.
>celine heads straight back to the castle and doesn't even grab an outfit change while she's there
>yunaka is a THIEF that looks like she stepped out of a pride parade
>panette and merrin have been actively hunting corrupted as their job
>women going out to war to begin with
>appeal to realism attempting to apply fashion from the enlightenment era to a game set in the middle ages
Let me guess - you're American?
>to a game set in the middle ages
>Engage
>Set in the middle ages
Genuinely did you actually play the game? This is absolutely not medieval era. Fricking Awakening was not in medieval era either. Fodlan absolutely was not medieval either. I don't know where this fricking narrative that FE needs to be medieval stems from.
Do you actually know when that painting you posted as "evidence" for it being realistic comes from? 1650AD. You're about 400 years out of date you fricking tard. Your average FE game is usually set between 600 and 1200 AD of whatever continent you're in. Their has never been an enlightenment FE game. By that point Europeans had had firearms for decades and the seafaring capabilities to travel across entire oceans. This is like defending the next game having a 1950 Chevrolet because that was also in the past. Those are two completely different historical settings. You MUST be American.
>Your average FE game is usually set between 600 and 1200 AD
That's literally impossible because Awakening takes place 1000 years after Arachnea, for starters. Fates has literal cannoneers as a class. Engage has fricking magic guns. Fodlan literally had high tech as a fricking plotpoint of the Agarthans and Rhea actively stopping the development of certain technologies to be widespread like PRINTERS.
DO YOU ACTUALLY PLAY THIS FRICKING SERIES YOU MOUTH BREATHING moron.
If your evidence for "Fire Emblem was never medieval" are Awakening and Fates you really need to get your shit together. One of the most common criticisms of Awakening is that it makes no sense because technology hasn't progressed at all in 1000 years. Meanwhile Fates has no history or worldbuilding at all.
>Fodlan literally had high tech as a fricking plotpoint of the Agarthans and Rhea actively stopping the development of certain technologies to be widespread like PRINTERS.
Yes. Rhea keeping the continent medieval is literally part of the lore lmao. You yourself have just debunked your own argument. Thanks.
It wasn't always that way...
why is the victor emmanuel II monument featured there lol, akaneia is rome confirmed?
The MC is named Mars. Guess.
yeah its just weird seeing a real life monument, thats all.
>If your evidence for "Fire Emblem was never medieval" are Awakening and Fates you really need to get your shit together.
I didn't say it was never medieval. You're making shit up for a narrative you hold no ground over. I presented 3 other games that have taken place in a non-medieval setting. Even in Fodlan a lot of it's costumes are very much not medieval. Rhea didn't keep things medieval either, a lot of the medicine far surpasses that of Medieval era, there is fricking hologram technology being used in Fodlan. You are a genuine mouth breathing moron who is desperate to push "muh medieval" on a series that hasn't pushed that envelope for years. Get a grip on reality Black person.
Yeah, you presented Awakening which is a setting that makes no sense, Fateslandia which has no setting at all, and Fodlan which explicitly IS medieval in a post Apocalyptic world with a character trying to keep it that way with that being a major plot point.
Your example of not being the medieval being the norm are the 13th and 14th entries, two games with absolutely no worldbuilding. Good job moron.
Your original argument was "it's fine for Engage's designs to be shit because it's realistic", when you yourself are now arguing that Engage isn't realistic anyway. If Engage deliberately isn't being realistic you can't use realism as an excuse for one of its flaws. It isn't aiming for that.
Fateslandia isn't a real place in universe. It's a glorified fairy tale. The very simplistic names in Japanese for the regions(literally Black/White/Invisible kingdoms) give it away.
>Yeah, you presented Awakening which is a setting that makes no sense
Why? Because you state it so? Humanity didn't start technologically evolving until much later.
>Fateslandia which has no setting at all
Its setting is just West vs Japan and the Japanese have been using guns for centuries at this point in time yet we have no guns but Cannoneers.
>Fodlan which explicitly IS medieval in a post Apocalyptic world
It literally is not medieval. It has fricking Holiday costumes. It has high level technology even for it's time. The school attire itself and the school system as a whole is far beyond medieval. You are out of your fricking mind.
>Your original argument was "it's fine for Engage's designs to be shit because it's realistic"
My point is that the designs borrowed from realism while still implementing them in a fantasy setting. Because that is a thing that has been done since the creation of Fire Emblem itself.
>Engage has fricking magic guns
it's almost like... engage isn't... realisitic.. and your appeal to realism defence for defence... was pathetic?
>it's almost like... engage isn't... realisitic...
Fire Emblem is... Fantasy...? AIEEEEE KAGA SAVE MEEEEEE
>muh fantasy
Here comes the cope
and yet at the same time fire emblem's setting draws heavily on the middle ages, which is why everyone fights with swords and bows and wears knights armor or mage's robes instead of looking like a fricking cowboy western.
Ah yes, I do remember mages being a thing in medieval era. Who could forget. Jesus christ.
>mages and dragons aren't a part of medieval fantasy apparently
Any more brilliant copes you came up with on the spot?
and dragons aren't a part of medieval fantasy apparently
Final Fantasy tactics is medieval Fantasy and still had cannons and guns, on top of many other advancements because the actual period where people used sticks and stones to fight didn't actually last as long as Fire Emblem wants to pretend. It's taking very loose liberties with it's setting and not playing it by the letter because stuff like Guns would invalidate bows and magic. DnD literally has this too btw.
So what are you even arguing about with me? My whole point was fire emblem is medieval fantasy with emphasis on fantasy.
My point is the Engage designs fit the setting they set for it, it's a Medieval setting overlapping with Renaissance period (they overlapped for roughly 300 years) and I don't get the complaint about the designs not fitting Fire Emblem.
You're arguing with the wrong anon then, I don't understand that realism schizo's moronic argument either
I like how your evidence for Fire Emblem not having medieval settings is a world where a huge part of the lore is the fact that somebody is controlling society and preventing it from progressing from the medieval to enlightenment era.
Refer to
I'm not repeating my point.
>anon discovers a medieval fantasy setting has fantasy elements
Next you'll be telling me dragons didn't actually exist during the medieval period
So what you're saying is... Realism is not the point of Fire Emblem? Gee genius we finally got to a conclusion here, you mean to tell me the past didn't have a blue haired prince with Pit aesthetics running around the continent? Glad we finally reached the conclusion that Fire Emblem is indeed fantasy and not bound by Medieval setting in its further installments.
The middle ages are a social construct perpetuated by the white male cis heteronormative patriarchy it didn't exists, nothing matters!
>FE is medieval not enlightenment in style
>post FE4
FE is literally furthest thing to a "medieval" style
Most of it is just anime renaissance or late antiquity with the case of Marth's game
Guys, I'm tired of this shit. Why can't we all just be bros and not have these shitty arguments every FE thread
People need something new to argue about now that Edelgard arguments have gotten stale.
First and foremost, Edelgard did nothing wrong and secondly see Engagegays squirm and cope is more entertaining than anything that's come out of their Rosado infested game.
it's the new edelgard arguments
not my fault if every new fe game in the last 11 years has been nothing but coomer bait.
you can say whatever you want about the older games but none of them (except fe7 but c'mon) had an avatar, which for some reason can frick or marry every single other character
FE4 Remake…
I hope it was enough of a failure to take the IP away from IS but not enough to shutter the franchise. But it was truly a vomit inducing game and I'm glad they recognize fans don't like it.
There has only been one good FE since Awakening and that is Echoes. The series has been dying for 10 years.
>Echoes
>Good
You don't like spamming hunter's volley?
No one should play Tellius. Even emulated at 4x speed a single lategame enemy turn still takes like an hour to resolve.
You know, anon, you can just have a normal conversation without hyperbolizing everything.
and even then Gaiden wasn't even that good to begin with.
The remake could do so much to polish it, but ISIS also made some mistake by adding the turnwheel and nerfing staff ranges
They added turnwheel as a band aid for Gaiden's godawful game design and now it infests every game that follows because casuals loved it
Irreparable damage to the series
Agreed
>turnwheel and it's derivatives incentivize being a lazy homosexual who doesn't even pay attention
>but also fixes getting 1% crit and instantly losing the battle
>turnwheel BAD
>saving every turn GOOD
kagagays are bigger poseurs than fodlangays at this point
Surprisingly a game some autists said had the worst gameplay is easily the best game in the series. Go figure
Best music too
It even did awakening's final boss better. Oh and Celica was hot af
And the threads on it are always high quality.
I don't get to see them that often or just missed them. Wished more FE threads weren't just a pile of hostility and drama
Personally i think Celica is one of the best looking girls of the whole FE series
Fae does it for me
I wonder if this anon is allowed within 5 miles of any elementary schools
>know beforehand that Grima uses Validar's battle theme from Awakening
>actually get to the fight
>the battle theme has actually been rerecorded or something because it sounds different despite being the same song
>isn't in the sound test
Absolute kino
but it does have shit gameplay. That doesn't mean it's not full of soul but are you really arguing for flat plains and swamp maps full of infinitely spawning mobs you have to tediously clear out?
One man army, just feed all kills to one guy and all the spawning mobs will die in a single enemy phase
Who's better engage or fates ?
Do people play FE for the story? I'm almost always skipping dialogue unless it's mid chapter to check if they are talking about reinforcements
>what went so wrong with Fire Emblem
Persona 5: Fire Emblem: Three Houses happened
They put more emphasis on MC shipping over gameplay and map design. Good thing AW community still is a thing to scratch the strategy itch for me
>I WANT TO PLAY FE4
>ok then go emulate it like everyone else had for 15 years
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
It's almost like Engage isn't realistic and using realism (that is completely anachronistic to the game's setting) to defend shit designs is just a massive cope.
You can't simultaneously argue that Engage was strongarmed into shit designs becauseit was trying to be realistic and argue that Engage isn't trying to be realistic. You're contradicting yourself. You don't hold any actual positions, you're doing 180 turns with each new post. Your only position is an obsessive need to defend Engage.
>You can accept dragons
>You can accept magic
>You can accept gods
>You can accept Pegasus
>You can accept Griffons
>You can accept Wolf Riders
>You can accept cruise missiles
>You can accept high technology mechas
>NOOOOO YOU NEED TO STAY IN MEDIEVAL ERA HOW DARE YOU FRICK
Nobody was ever saying that though. They were calling you a moron for trying to use realism to defend Hortensia's atrocious design when you yourself had admitted multiple times Fire Emblem doesn't use realism anyway - so there is no actual excuse for how bad it looks.
>They were calling you a moron for trying to use realism to defend Hortensia's atrocious design
I don't need to defend a design that is literally perfect
>when you yourself had admitted multiple times Fire Emblem doesn't use realism anyway
You are very 8 or 800 and no in-between, you can draw from realism for your fantasy setting, you actual dumbass, how is this so hard to understand for you?
So you're just a delusional Hortensiagay, that makes sense. It explains why you did a 180 on all of your positions mid-argument. You're arguing in bad faith.
>You're arguing in bad faith
The sheer irony of this claim
>Engage draws from realism. It doesn't because it's not realistic.
>These titles were not medieval. So you're claiming FE was never medieval.
You're a Black person putting words in other people's mouth like a moron and accuse others of arguing in bad faith. End your life shitposter.
Your original post was literally the implication that it was fine for Hortensia to have a moronic design because you found a painting from the 1600s where people had stickers on their face. You made an appeal to realism - it's okay and had to be done because it's historical. This is despite the fact Fire Emblem games very clearly do not have an enlightenment era setting.
Aside from that, you then immediately switched stances under pressure and said it was actually fine because Fire Emblem isn't realistic anyway. This contradicts your original claim that it was okay because it was being realistic. You switched your justification to a completely opposing view because your only actual motivation is defending Hortensia's shit behind and you don't care about the logic you use to do it.
>it's okay and had to be done because it's historical. This is despite the fact Fire Emblem games very clearly do not have an enlightenment era setting
It didn't have to be done, it was drawn from realism is what I'm saying and fits within the character design.
>Aside from that, you then immediately switched stances under pressure and said it was actually fine because Fire Emblem isn't realistic anyway.
This is projection. I never changed stances. You were the one forcing this idea of medieval era is a MUST and it had to appeal exclusively to REALISM when never once in the series has this been done. Yet again putting words in other people's mouths.
You will now weep and cope.
Looks nothing like an Engage design
>Fruity and colorful
Thats what you described it as. That's exactly what it is.
She's not though?
>Posting art from another artist that subjugates vibrant colors to force a narrative
Here's a better look by a more faithful, competent artist
That's a pastel/aquarelle wizardy looking broad, not a neon colored vtuber gardening tool.
>engagegays are colorblind
Holy cope dude, Engage's design wouldn't make sense or feel in-place even if it were a cyberpunk bubblegum dystopia because they look to fruity/candy colored; much less in a medieval fantasy setting with knights and dragons.
Not a medieval fantasy and hasn't been for more than a decade no matter how much you force this narrative. Fruity/candy colored was literally the standard for FE1 to 4. You are literally coping.
>Fruity/candy colored was literally the standard for FE1 to 4
...Uh huh.
>inb4 posts NES sprites where they could only use two colors and had to be bright
You fricking moron.
The desings look fine.
nobody cares about OG characters and story.
Just make a standard version of FEH as it was at the beginning: you only have a couple of new characters, the avatar, and then you summon a selection of the most popular characters of the older games.
The plot is irrelevant, just write whatever and start with the battles.
Then make lots of DLC costumes, like swimsuits for the japanese version and fullbody wetsuits for the western version.
If the gameplay is semi-decent like Engage people will be happy about it, and the characters' popularity will carry the game.
>mfw ITT people arguing that Fire Emblem is not a medieval fantasy setting after Engage.
Are the people who shit on Engage 24/7 Three Houses gays? More specifically, Edelgard gays?
Close to it. Engage is a threat to their nonstop threads.
3H died after Three Hopes. Engage died after two weeks.
There is no dominant force anymore.
>3H died after Three Hopes
There's still frickers bickering about plot holes for 500 posts.
This
But 3H got a second wind after the disaster that was Engage; is like how the SW prequels are more beloved now than they were before the sequel trilogy.
Not really, it just that the mere image of Edelgard with a text saying anything about Engage triggers the bejeezus out of Colgategays.
>Edelgard is one of the worst lords in FE
>Fanbase is waifugays and twittergays because church bad and LGBT shit
>Be surprised when people get angry at any Edelgard post
>3HRTgays constantly come into Engage threads to start shit
>um, wow why do you hate us? Rent free sweetie
lmao, you look stupid enough to think this was an engage thread
It's you antagonistic morons that started shit from the getgo.
No offense buddy but the ones who begin to start shit were engayge gays when they got smug with their preorders and le new face of fire emblem. And I fricking despise 3persona homosexuals.
False. 3 Houses fans were insufferable, Engage posting was just a reaction to that.
Lmao, lots of homosexuals were spamming this kind of graphs gloating about it, and spent lots of time talking shit about 3H without any provocation at all, dear my homosexual-kun.
Exactly, we "3Personahomosexuals" were mourning the damage 3Copes did and were worried about the direction the franchise would take when Colgate-chan's design leaked and the uppity Black folk of Engayd began antagonizing every one who offered worries/criticism... Now the game they shilled killed any interest in the franchise.
t. never played any SMT of Persona game before specially when the average entry of the latter looks like a gay circus.
>Now the game they shilled killed any interest in the franchise
Wat
It's actually engagegays that know that the only way on of their threads will make it past 100 reponses is if it's bait.
Possibly, Engage is just Awakening III.
The SLOP SAGA
>AIDSwakening
>Dilates (the game that introduced gay marriage to FE)`
>Engayge (the first game with a 100% LGBT cast)
I'm glad Engage killed the franchise.
if only
but at least you still aren't final homosexualry 16 with gay sex on screen.
What the frick?
nice gay bahamut dominant you got there
He's baiting
Only sex on screen is straight
>*INHALES*
Dead Franchise
why aren't you crying about your savior and father of caeda's children Kris, Barfth?
Engage has a few designs I don't like.
I don't care and love the game anyways.
That bad entry.
Yeah 3H did a pretty bad number on the series.
>N-no U!
Do Engays even believe their own shit at this point?
All I did was identify the bad game anon was referring to.
It's obviously not because of story or gameplay. Look at the fricking moronic MC design, straight out of 2005's Deviantart
>Please unintelligent (moronic) systems don't send me to the shadow realm were m*le corn is, its not my fault the fans are sick of whiny b***hes and complicated and deep gameplay on their censored dating sim visual novel and they rather have more western approved pandering and manly Rambo's who solo their games.
>fe
>deep and complicated
i like the gameplay but cmon
Don't you rike reading through texts upon text of different skills
>Engage comes out
>the constant 24/7 Three Houses threads that were filled with nothing but the most moronic alignment arguments for a game you've ever seen finally die
>now that actual Engage threads have settled down like every single-player video games does, FE threads on Ganker a filled with nothing but autists crying about Engage while dumping their smug Edelgard reaction image folders in an attempt to save face
I'm fully convinced at this point that 3Hs discussion on this board was never even actually authentic and was just a bunch of schizos astroturfing over three years.
It was always just a group of circlejerking avatargays that loved getting attention. If it wasn't for Edelgard, they would've done the same for a different game
You’re such a dishonest homosexual. I remember during the prime Engage threads there were constant homosexuals talking about “Fire Emblem is back” and that the game will bring new fans to the series. Now the only way to have an FE thread is though shitposting. How come during the Edelgay shit you were able to have threads about the old FE games but now after engage every FE thread dies if it isn’t about shitposting
Forgot your reaction image bro.
There were a ton of GBA and Jugdral Emblem threads after Engage came out. Schizos like you just used them as an excuse to cry about how Engage was so bad it was making people want to talk about other FEs instead of it at the time.
>NOOOOOOO UNLESS YOU HAVE DAILY THREADS ABOUT GAMES THAT CAME OUT OVER TWO DECADES AGO YOUR SERIES IS DEAD
Go back to /vg/.
>Engage was so bad it was making people want to talk about other FEs instead of it
that was true though kek, there were so many posts of people playing engage and saying it just made them want to play a different FE
To be honest, that's the reason I avoided 3H threads too. It was bad back then and it's still bad now it seems. I just wanna have a nice chill talk with bros, not argue with over obsessed schizos
We had cool GBA threads during the prime Engage times, also a few Tellius or Jugdral threads
No duh, it was the prime time. The only recent FE thread that I saw reach more than 50 posts was that reaction image one and IT STILL became Engage vs 3h.
Dial8
>bunch of schizos astroturfing over three years
They were paid shills
Shilling on social media is more profitable than normal advertising
Engage and Fates have one thing in common that cannot be denied: the complaints people have with the story/characters are so overdone that there is no genuine discussion to be had at this point. What is else is there to say about either of them that isn't just regurgitated whining about how this character was a waste or how this plot element is dumb? It's all the same, every time, every day.
People also complained about awakening dogshit plot newhomosexualron, but I guess like all you normalhomosexuals cried when Chrom sister did a hero.
Reading wasn't your strongest skill in school, was it?
This is where the bad blood started by the way. Pre-release Engagegays attacking 3Hgays. Engagegays were not the victims.
However nowadays due to the failure of Engage Three Houses fans are utterly relentless with bullying them in return. The fanbase is cancerous and we need a new neutral game to fix it.
Agreed with this anon engayge gays aren't innocent at all.
Agreed with this anon 3HRTrannies are cancerous and insufferable
>Pre-release Engagegays
Basically Fatesbabies who felt alienated by 3H
You do realize not all people who like engage attack 3H. Heck, some of them enjoyed it. Yet, with these pointless constant arguments that happen in these threads it's just not fun for anyone
>You do realize not all people who like engage attack 3H.
Yeah, well, that goes both way.
I don't give a frick, i'm not a big fan of either of those games, though i don't hate them either. But from what i remember, this whole shitshow was started by the idiots who hated 3H so much that they just HAD to keep attacking it amd say how much better Engage was going to be. Obviously there would be some 3H-homosexuals who would answer in kind.
I just wish they would all go frick themselves and stop arguing about the same things over and over and over and over.
>I just wish they would all go frick themselves and stop arguing about the same things over and over and over and over.
That's why I said it ain't fun for everyone. I too wished everyone can just lay low on posting FE for a while already and just enjoy their games
As much as I'd like that too, it's pretty much impossible, especially on a site here where we thrive off of negativity. Your best bet is to talk to your friends who are into FE.
>Your best bet is to talk to your friends who are into FE.
Frick. They're all exclusively into LoL.
>Your best bet is to talk to your friends who are into FE.
Don't have any. It's all ass around here
>can't even talk about FE lewds anymore
man..
Says who?
the threads either die too quickly or get overtaken by shitposting, not even at peak fates it got this bad
I don't think anything encapsulates the absolute fricking state of the Fire Emblem franchise as well as this shit does
AHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH goood lord i'm glad i stopped buying fe games after the game cube era
>Wasn't able to get this out of my head for an entire week on release
AAAAAAAAAA
>Engagegays be like: it's supposed to be laughable, i-its kino-cringe!
Just because there isn't a new FE game coming out every year, doesn't mean it's faded. Also
>Engage
>bad
pick one
Ignoring my hate toward NDS and 3DS FE titles:
>Nintendo and IS release Three Houses
>years and years of topics where people talk about game, characters, and how good or evil Edelgard was depending on your preference
>Engage comes out
>people come with false ''oh wow, maddening is fair and balanced for once'' claim after they played only 2 battles
>never talk about the game again
Well, that was easy.
Im hoping/coping for Jugdral remakes so we can have stealth generals again lol
Yeah but it will be on how the game was censored and ruined, you are welcome jugBlack person.
Im actually a GBAgay
I just like talking about Fire Emblem with Ganker, its fun.
Who would thought kidults really wanted a dating sim after all.
This image is a necessity for any Engage thread
They're both shit designs
Genealogygays really think themselves to be the standard of Fire Emblem it's honestly pathetic.
Don't you dare try to bring Archaneakino down to Engage's sloppy level
Medieval characters always looked like this, the average villager btw
Looks fine, a nice understated design. The only over the top thing there is her big side-tail in her hair, otherwise she's a girl wearing a dress with long hair.
Average archer
>using jeorge as an example
you did NOT play the game, holy shit
I did, calling him average is a bit harsh I'll admit
What am I looking at here?
He's a got clothes
A tabard
Armour and belting that keeps his tabard in place
Gloves and a Glove-Braces (to stop his hand getting flayed if he misfires his bow)
I guess he has a scarf and headband, which are superfluous?
Why are the male avatars always so much worse?
DUDE WHAT IF WE TURNED A SNACK INTO ANIME PEOPLE
Who cares. For as long as he fricks his sister/cousin/mother, he serves his purpose
Engage models all look too different to the actual art, manga Alear looks pretty accurate however
Fire Emblem Heroes is one of the, if not THE most profitable Nintendo game of all time.
You can cope with that however you like.
I wonder where FEH is making most of its money from; Global or Japan or do they have a single server?
Japan, westerns barely waste money on that garbage.
It's like a 60/40 split, it actually does OK in the West for a gacha.
>Telliusgay has abysmally shit taste
We know
>PoR in S
Ok, don't agree but can see why it would be there
>FE6 in A
What
>RD in A
What the frick
>PoR in S
yes, correct
>RD in A
agreeable if you're not an insufferable "dawn brigade bad" clown. but those enemy phases in the late game without a skip or speed up puts this game in B and you know it.
>sacred stones and binding blade in same tier as three houses, conquest, and SoV
ok please play the games first before making the tier list
>awakening below conquest and NME
and stop pandering to Ganker contrarians, awakening was unironically good, eugenics simulator saved the franchise. at least better than these two pieces of shit. map design doesn't actually mean anything when a game isn't fun to begin with, and if you did play sacred stones before putting it in here, i'd say you'd have to understand that.
Ugly characters and design
Bad story and scenario
Some of the shittiest maps in the series
Brought coomers and troons to the FE tanbase
>he thinks it's about the supports
Sorry about that I misread a post.
still, it was fine
unpopular opinion but I get the feeling people only like engage and defend it since people had to endure 3 years of 3H and they were just desperate for that to end
>people are so deluded the objective truth is now seen as an unpopular opinion
Nah, I just find the game funny as frick from how absurd and non-FE it is. I can rest easy with Engage blatantly being designed as a goofy one off than a potential series standard like Awakening and Fates was.
>WHAT THE BACON SISTERS WHERE THE FRICK IS OUR GOYSLOP THAT SHOULD BE RELEASED EVERY 6 MONTHS.
dumb story
2nd half of the game's maps suck ass
pair-up is op
hard is hard enough and the lunatic difficulties are bullshit difficult
why are guy acting like the scenario of previous was better. Story was fine.
Also, skill issus
The story was not fricking fine. It's dogshit.
I actually enjoyed Awakening’s story. However, world building and character writing were particularly bad, especially for side characters, which is funny because they’ve never had more text.
Fates/Awakening have some of the worst supports in the series because of the whole everyone being able to frick everyone thing. I'm so glad they went back on that from Three Houses on.
Awakening's story was bad too. Valm arc was unnecessary and Grima was so bad that other games had to dedicate their own resources to try and make him a character.
Character? His literally still just a dumb evil dragon. He is just now a science evil dragon
Okay, semblance of character then since we didn't even know where Grima came from.
>I actually enjoyed Awakening’s story
I liked the drama but it got silly Valm arc forward, they rushed the first antagonist
Completely agree, it wasn’t perfect but it was still enjoyable, I’d put it around FE6/FE1 in terms of how much I enjoyed it. Then Fates came along and the writing fell off a cliff. Can’t get over how god awful every aspect of that game’s writing is, holy shit. Also I’ll point out it basically apes Altenna’s backstory and turns it into a whole game. Kaga wins again.
FE was always anime shit
Want serious shit? Shoulda bought Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin my guy
Ah yes, FE4
The game that lets you dismount the protagonist because Kaga tought female players would want him to stay cute
you're saying nothing
Kaga actually knew his audience, which is more than you can say about modern IS at any given time.
i want serious storylines like these again bros
>1 line from a side conversation most players will miss.
FE4 is one of the greatest stories ever told in a video game, especially when you consider the era it was released in.
DQ5 did your plot better kaga homosexual
No, I was really hyped for this game but it was pretty meh.
Play the game bro. Those plots are barely similar.
Every game under the sun will kill off the father character, show me a game that kills off the main character and all his friends in the middle of the game And there’s more to it than that.
>kills you, your friends, fiance, and kingdom for shits and giggles
nothing personnel
too bad redditgurd isn't the mc
its Soiliph just look your shitty cover.
your game also stole the children hunts, the holy lineage shit from dq5 just admit kaga stole those you fricker.
Still better than even the most nuance dialogue in Engage.
Goldmary and Etie touch each other's bodies out of jealousy for one another so you lost on that one
Nah, Engage has some genuinely good shit it's just buried in supports.
I just seriously hate how the fricking MC looks with their goofy toothpaste-ass hair. Yeah I know it's petty but it's seriously enough to turn me off from the whole game, I just can't get over how fricking dorky the characters look nowadays.
When someone puts reddit pozzed dawn high on their shitty tier list just use this. or remind them of israelite being a homosexual for Soren
You are all dumb and gay. So you get this dumb gay dragon, feed her and pet her until she dies
le Dwagon :O
Reddit's girl.
She isn't gay.
She is dumb, cute and hot.
We're never getting genealogy
btw engage sales are unlikely to increase because of an abysmal sell-through rate
>They think engayge will have legs.
Its a game moron
It doesn't have legs