>half an hour cutscene mid-dungeon before main boss

Thank you for repeating what I just said

who put the teleport pad on the moon
if it were Fannyman he wouldn't need the teleporter in the first place
if it wasn't Fritos then why is the teleporter entrance right next to him

who put the teleport pad on the moon
if it were Fannyman he wouldn't need the teleporter in the first place
if it wasn't Fritos then why is the teleporter entrance right next to him

>who put the teleport pad on the moon
The Allagans
>if it were Fannyman he wouldn't need the teleporter in the first place
He knows its there because he was a prominent member of the allagan empire(He's the actual Amon, the 3rd boss you fight in Sycrus Tower is his clone)

>Ascians be teleporting to the moon senpai
so the teleporter is unnecessary
and Zenos needed to go to the moon because...?
oh, right, because there needed to be a teleporter conveniently placed six feet to Fallopian's left

>and Zenos needed to go to the moon because...?
did you not play shadowbringers and endwalker?

Zenos had no reason to go to the moon
he didn't give a shit about Zodiark
he didn't give a shit about Fandango
why would the character that doesn't give a shit about Flappybird's plan need to be directly involved in the final stage of the plan, when all he cares about is goading (You) into fighting him
now answer the question
Zenos needed to go to the moon because...?

He wanted to fight you using Zodiark's essence and then when Fanny Danny did his thing he realized you'd be completely distracted so he fricked off.

oh
huh
if only he had been standing in a GIANT AETHER TRANSMITTING TOWER THAT WAS BUILT FOR THIS EXACT PURPOSE

The tower was built to shoot a laser beam at Hydaelyn's ward, and to teleport to the moon. It wasn't connected to Zodiark's aether. The tower was Anima which was drawing aether from the other towers around the world which were sucking that aether from the planet. There are a dozen actual problems with EW's story and this isn't one of them. You're just stupid.

Personally, my favorite part of this post is its ability to halplessly present rampant cynicism and an inability to enjoy a story as "critique".
Next you'll tell us it's all very convenient that we just so happen to play the hero of the story.

>we can also talk about the conveniently-placed memory wiping device which Venat conveniently escapes from
This one is bullshit.
>or the convenient memory-wiping spell that the Sharlayans conveniently explain stops working after death
This is consistent with Lifestream lore we've had since 1.0, in which it was described that teleport is dangerous because lingering in the Lifestream will make it start scrubbing all the excess aether off your soul. That's also how Thancred and Y'shtola got crippled.
>or the fact that Elvisdibus conveniently has just enough aether to send you back in time
He's the heart of Zodiark, the most powerful primal ever made.
>only for Emet to conveniently be able to see you
Stories are full of coincidences, that's just how stories happen. The actual problem here is that the Elpis segment was only written so they could shove in Emet-Selch fanservice.
>or the conveniently-placed ikeascope that the Sharlayans have been using to communicate with Hydaelyn's conveniently-placed moon rabbits
The Aitiascope is another Antitower, which you first visited in Heavensward. It's not conveniently placed, it just aims straight underground toward the center of the planet which is where Hydaelyn is. And it's for talking to Hydaelyn, not the rabbits.
>who just so conveniently happen to be able to navigate a conveniently-placed Allagan spaceship
That's not an Allagan spaceship, that was designed by the Loporrits and built by the Sharlayans.

How very convenient that the cat that idolized us during a subpar Alliance Raid story ended up surviving into the dark timeline alongside Cid, Biggs and Wedge and their eventual progeny. So convenient that they managed to reverse engineer Alexander and Omega technology and conveniently turn the Crystal Tower into a convenient time and dimensional travel machine so he could conveniently travel to a separate pocket dimension in an alternate timeline and conveniently set up shop there and become the leading figure of a convenient huge settlement that amassed around his convenient time and dimension-traveling tower. And how convenient that he was able to use its powers to pinpoint our location in another dimension with a different flow of time and conveniently call our character and their comrades over to his dimension so they could conveniently avert the events that led to his timeline. And how convenient that once the very deed that led to his very existence was undone, he conveniently got to remain!

Zenos wanted to hijack Zodiark the same way he did Shinryu so he could have an insane battle against you. Fricking idiot. Endwalker isn't even good but you picked the dumbest fricking thing to find a problem with.

sasuga average story "critic"

Holy frick that projection

Okay so you're just spewing random bullshit and hoping it sticks because you want to defend your ideological ally who already openly stated her intentions.

Of her stating her intentions? Here

She's not a boogeyman, she's very real.

Get to the next part of your rotation now.

>Again, that's your only definitive example of something being changed
She's added other they/thems since that point, but you don't care about that because to you the simple existence of that means that the Japanese approved it therefore it's fine. Funny how this stuff isn't in the Japanese version though. I also don't care if she got the boss's approval or not, she's stated her intention to force her ideology into the game and has already done so. She changed the pixies for no other reason but to set precedent. That isn't acceptable.

>Feel free to post those examples then
I literally already did. Giott and Talkingway. And at least one unnamed NPC in Sharlayan. You're here to waste time. I can go get a picture of any of these things, and we both know the result is you saying "but I don't think it's a big deal so it's fine and I win". Convince me you're not here in bad faith just trying to waste my time and energy, or I'm gonna go back to playing FFIX.

She's a they/them in the new lorebook, bud.

>and we both know the result is you saying "but I don't think it's a big deal so it's fine and I win
" frick off" is a completely valid argument and continuing to argue is a sign of being mazed by your own offense

>" frick off" is a completely valid argument
It's actually not, sis.

>unnamed NPC in Sharlayan
Wasn't that one a typo?

It's not a he/she mix up, it's someone referring to a female NPC as 'they'.

kek I fricking KNEW you were the dumb frick who took that shit as being some kind of ultimate gotcha.

>It's not a he/she mix up, it's someone referring to a female NPC as 'they'.
which one?

>limit breaks used as an introduction for dynamis and aren't 100% built up aether
Little lorelet, nothing has changed about limit break lore. Limit breaks were always manipulating vast amounts of aether through an emotional high. All that was added was that dynamis is the intermediary force which shapes the aether, rather than aether itself directly responding to emotion. Limit breaks aren't dynamis laser beams.

>pre-EW
Aether responds to emotion and faith. Magic is literally prayer that becomes reality through fervent belief. Primals are huge lumps of aether shaped by emotions and faith. Limit breaks are when you reach an emotional high that lets you manipulate massive amounts of aether beyond your normal limits.
>post-EW
Aether responds to emotion and faith because dynamis carries the emotion and molds the aether like clay. Magic is literally prayer that becomes reality through fervent belief because dynamis manipulates the aether. Primals are huge lumps of aether shaped by emotions and faith because dynamis molded the aether. Limit breaks are when you reach an emotional high and supercharge the dynamis which lets you shape massive amounts of aether beyond your normal limits.

Nothing significant has changed.

Gridanian conjurers are priests of Nophica and they pray to the elementals to access magic. And this does play into their magic too, it's the reason they use the specific wooden canes they do. Compare them to Ishgardian conjurers who use steel and stone staves as focuses.
>and white magic which doesn't actually care about religious ties.
Modern white mages are the high priests of Nophica, and the Amdapori white mages were also priests (see the names of their equipment, and the angelic themes).

thats because red mages accelerate their own internal aether and bend it to either astral or umbral, build up energy they call 'mana' and release it through sword techniques. they aren't drawing it from their surroundings like true black or white mages do

Emotion is also an acceptable component in magic, emotion and faith are functionally the same thing.
>especially in light of arcanima from arcanists, scholars and summoners
Arcanima is actually the study and arrangement of leylines. It originated as the use of natural leylines, and then evolved into arcanists making their own miniature leylines. This actually ties into Llymlaen as the Navigator, understanding and mapping the planet's natural flows to cast magic.

>emotion isn't relevant to the religious practices that all jobs ignore, why are you repeating this
It's completely relevant. You think faith is disconnected from emotion?
>and why are you explaining ley lines to me when it's irrelevant
Because leylines are absolutely relevant to arcanima. That's literally what the geometries are, they're miniaturized custom leylines.
>this is speaking out of your ass
If you don't see how the goddess of navigation ties into charting leylines, then it's not surprising you don't understand dynamis.

religion isn't a requirement
>but priestesses do this
still not a requirement. just because magic as we understand it originated from prayers doesn't mean that magic stems from prayers. its the incantations. thats why agrias and cid have such long incantations to their attacks

It's not even about a religious requirement, is it? The reason Black Magic and White Magic were banned was because they were pulling from external aether, like the Primals were. When White Mages used White Magic, they were draining the planet around them.

Red Mages take their own aether, make it either more astral or more umbral, and then spread it around them. Then when they use something like Verholy or Verflare, they're not using up the ambient aether in the area, they're using their own internal aether that they put there specifically for that purpose.

I think most of the classes use their own aether. The description for Arcanist for instance mentions "Held within occult grimoires, these symbols lend shape to the arcanist's aether, thereby allowing him to produce myriad powerful spells," which is saying they're using their own aether. No one cares if you use your own aether for something, they care when you pull it from the world. That's why even the benevolent Primals like Ramuh need to be killed, because them merely existing is drawing up ambient aether.

For Scholars, they're using their own aether for the most part, and Faeries are the aether of dead Scholars. And I think originally Summoners were able to bind Primals that had already been summoned, but the Egis are just a Summoner using their own aether again: "Only a practitioner whose aether has been stained by the essence of a primal can thenceforth shape her own energies into a willful embodiment of the original entity’s dominant aspect. In the ancient tongue of the Allagan Empire, “egi” translates approximately to “pure” or 'the essence of.'"

And technically every class uses aether, most just don't call it magic. Dragoons use it, Warriors use it, Gunbreakers use it, Sages use it, Ninjas use it, etc. They just don't call it magic, but they use it and religion isn't involved.

they literally DO, lorelet
that's the whole plot leading up to Ramuh

Primals have a latent tempering effect that CAN be an issue, but not always. If you are next to one while summoned, you're exposed to a huge burst of aether that's a much bigger risk. Titan doesn't temper anybody but his high priests are still tempered because they keep putting themselves near him, that's according to the first lorebook.

ahat the frick do you think all of omega and everything in EW from elpis on was about

>Literally the only time dynamis is ever show to shape aether into anything is in the case of the Twelve
The elpis flower shows you dynamis shaping aether the entire time you have it. I can get a screenshot of EE3 going into more detail about this too.

Shut the frick up, you Xande loving simp. Frick you and your tower.

>Literally the only time dynamis is ever show to shape aether into anything is in the case of the Twelve
The elpis flower shows you dynamis shaping aether the entire time you have it. I can get a screenshot of EE3 going into more detail about this too.

Post it

>Post it

>and we both know the result is you saying "but I don't think it's a big deal so it's fine and I win
" frick off" is a completely valid argument and continuing to argue is a sign of being mazed by your own offense

the loporitis are actually agender because they're all the same subhuman familiar template doe. its the kind of cringe mascot character race japan has had for decades and the western version has always had to just pick a pronoun because until trannies decided that being called they isn't dehumanizing after all we were stuck with this as a quirk of our latin-based language

Agreed fren. I only char about the troons in Xiv. So glad the main character of DT is a troon

from what I remember he was born in the US. It's just that his father had turned into a huge weeabo so he gave him a jap sounding middle name. And yeah, it's pretty clear that his interest in jap stuff probably started with his dad. He initially went to japan and worked as an English teacher, from what I remember

you tried sharking on her while she was crafting

that's aether, isn't it?

Brother do you even know what pf is

i know how dead the game is outside of aether

the one dc that is semi-alive

have a nice day

Brother do you even know what upper case is?

brother do you know convenience?

Just as cut and dried as it is for me!

That's me having a triple digit IQ and knowing what Omega does.

>ShB's time travel mechanics were literally just a whole bunch of "it works so because we say it works that way"
You can not create changes in a time loop from within the time loop because if you were to do so then the circumstances of you changing the time loop would also be changed. That's how loops work. You are trapped in the loop and nothing you can do can change it because the beginning of the loop is affirmed by your present actions.
This is not the case if you were to act outside the loop, from the perspective of another dimension, as is the case in Shadowbringers. Because you are not a part of that loop, you can affect changes from outside.
Read a book, Aiden.

>G'raha was not out of the loop lmao.
Yes he was. The First is another dimension from the Source. He was in a parallel time flow.
>His timeline was still created due to the existence of the Flood of Light and eventual Calamity.
Which is on a Source dimension completely separate from the First.
>He *should* have been undone, which in turn would reset everything back to where it was.
There's no logical reason that would happen. You're still conceiving of the events of the three different dimensions in ShB happening on a single timeline, which is wrong.

How does the FF1 timeloop work? Did Garland not account for you fighting Chaos?

Dark crystal frickery and also the WoL is from another dimension. He slips into the loop from Dissidia and fricks it up.

>The First is inextricably tied to the Source
No, the First was created from slicing aether off of the Source. It's not tied to anything, it was just spawned from the Source's aether.
>and G'raha traveling to a past version of it doesn't change that the future he came from is the same branch of time the Warrior of Light is from.
Yes it does, because G'raha is not from the branch you played through. He's from another branch, then moved to another dimension which allowed him to affect changes in the loop through an outsider position.
>And what you do on the First is literally solely to avoid causing a Calamity on the Source.
And you're able to do so because you're acting in another dimension.

there is one, fixed timeline originating from creation. the exarch jumped entirely to another timeline rather than into the past of his own.

this actually debunks the 'you were hydaeyln's chosen one from the very start' because hydaelyn didn't know for sure that her timeline was 'the one' until the exarch shenanigans took place in it with you getting a phone call

>the exarch jumped entirely to another timeline rather than into the past of his own.
no, he jumped into his own past, and averting the calamity just split history in two
even if you want to pretend otherwise, it's not like time works in a way where the present is the only time that exists, as evidenced by the fact that G'raha from the future could travel back at all. If, without G'raha's assistance, the WoL was fated to die and the calamity was inevitable, then by definition, it already happened in the same timeline our WoL is in, and G'raha just got in between and caused a split regardless.

The First and all Shards are quite literally linked to the Source. The shards' effect on the Source and vice versa is literally why calamities happen. The calamity happens on the Source half because of the shit that happened to the shard. It's simple cause and effect, and you can't untie the two.
The First's fate is linked to the Source by definition, so that means that by affecting the First's course history, you are affecting the Source's as well. The Source that he hails from, the timeline that he hails from.

By your logic, cause and effect do not exist. Nothing you would do in the First would affect the Source and vice versa.
Yet it very much does. The Final Days would doom the First, and the Flood of Light was poised to doom the Source.
If there's only a tenuous aetherical link and no presence of an unbroken timeline linking the two, the things that affect one could literally not affect the other. But they do, because they are linked. They are not separated from each other's timelines because that's nonsense. They can quite literally affect each other.

By your logic, cause and effect do not exist. Nothing you would do in the First would affect the Source and vice versa.
Yet it very much does. The Final Days would doom the First, and the Flood of Light was poised to doom the Source.
If there's only a tenuous aetherical link and no presence of an unbroken timeline linking the two, the things that affect one could literally not affect the other. But they do, because they are linked. They are not separated from each other's timelines because that's nonsense. They can quite literally affect each other.

Also you win because it's late and I'm off to bed and don't really want to wait for the next addition to the "yes it does," "no it doesn't," show.
Enjoy.

Despite how much her hood is part of her design and they'll never take it away, she's much cuter with it down

>She’s not particularly cute or an interesting character
I actually think she is an interesting character, the issue is most of her early characterization is locked behind Eureka. You miss a lot of her actual motivations and character growth without it. I'm kind of upset that I took so long to actually do the Eureka story.

She has some good sassy lines here and there- her role for a long time has been "group worrywart" and "busy with paperwork," hopefully now that she's actually on the front lines again we'll see more of her sassy side.

Feeding Krile