I mean virtually everybody on the planet (except aborigines apparently) have either neanderthal dna, denisovian dna, or both. So we've been mutts for dozens of millennia.
My half-orc Fighter had a human bard father. You can guess what happened. Strangely, he's not too bitter about it and mostly uses his heritage as an excuse to leave the tribe and fight newer and stronger opponents.
Overpowered sex drive. It helps keep our numbers up.
That's sort of asking why they kill everything in sight. They obviously don't, but the moment a person does kill something it becomes an industry unless you make it illegal at which time it becomes a criminal industry but continues regardless.
Similarly as soon as one person starts fricking dogs or other men or children or whatever it quickly becomes a cause, and must be violently suppressed to be stopped, you have to build whole social structures around forbidding something and people will still do it, just stealthily.
This is a category of behavior I would call "Recurring," along with eating, decorating, and trading things.
Humans are so prolific in creating half-races that they made up lies about half-races sired by human women. There's probably only one half-orc in existence with a human mother and she calls herself "of the human woman" or something.
Every race has their stereotypes.
Elves have their love of nature, dwarves their skill in smithing, orcs their viciousness in battle. Gnomes are inventive, halflings love their leisure and the leaf.
Humans will frick anything. It's the only thing notably special about them.
>"So, since half-orcs don't have to have a human mother. Mine is a half orc/half X" >"Yes, this means I should have [insert cherry picked racial trait or powerful feat analogous to said trait]
You dont have to tell me. I went out of my way to make a custom half orc template because youd think a half orc that spawned from an elf, a dwarf, and a human would have different stat adjustments based on its non orc parentage.
if it isn't on the chart I won't allow it >now that I think about it, there should be rules about making half-dragon whatevers
There is a rule for half dragons. Pathfinder was actually very good about including rules for Half-(insert op thing here), half dragons, half celestial etc. It wasn't particularly imaginative really, since it's mostly "give it the following stat boosts and this ability" or whatever, but it exists.
Honestly, different cosmology but I always just justified it in my head for a homebrew setting that you take the "common" fantasy races and split them in a way that makes sense visually. Orc & Dwarf or Halfling? Goblin. Human and Dwarf? Halflings. That way you don't have a bunch of half-whatever races and templates to account for and it significantly cuts down on all the bullshit. But I doubt that's a popular idea and doesn't work at all in most established settings.
>stories are told
"My best friend's room-mate's uncle's sister-in-law's work buddy knows a half-orc whose mother is a halfling!" Yes, and the prostitute I fricked last night was totally a former Waterdeep princess.
>What lolthite would lower herself to breeding with a human?
One from a desperate minor House needing a force multiplier but unable or unwilling to engage with other Houses or third party mercenaries for it.
Still, you'd think that would be more MD/HF. Youre going to have to spend a year pregnant so why would you want to carry a mutt when you can have your sons have fun with a dozen slaves and make them carry them instead?
>you'd think that would be more MD/HF
Could be both. It's a male's duty and a female's punishment for underperforming.
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Ehh. I still feel like a more fitting punishment would be to let her be topped by a male drow. Still humiliating while not polluting HER bloodline with bastards. Thats just my take but i suppose you can handwave issues or inconsistencies with the drow with "because lolth lol".
4e's core setting actually has an elf/orc half-breed demigoddess whose tiny church is dedicated to trying to end the eons-long war between the two races.
>why are human/dwarf hybrids not allowed on this despite there being canonical human/dwarf hybrids in official fricking D&D settings?
Because the chart is idiotic shot describing a third-party products setting, It is not official and is based on a shit setting for a sex book. Nobody should be using the chart for anything.
Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance both have had dwarf/human crossbreeding be a thing since 1e. But in the Realms, human + dwarf basically just produces a slightly taller and more fertile dwarf 99% of the time, and Krynnish half-dwarfs had such crap stats that nobody remembers them.
>Breeding with Green monster men/pig people - A-OK >Breeding with short humans who have large beards - NUH UH
Is it a gaiderism? Did they think it would be pedophilia if someone fricked a female dwarf?
You dont have to tell me. I went out of my way to make a custom half orc template because youd think a half orc that spawned from an elf, a dwarf, and a human would have different stat adjustments based on its non orc parentage.
Actually, pretty decent stats in Midnight D20. Where, admittedly, dworgs (as they're called) are the only kind of half-orc, as orcs in that setting are corrupted dwarves.
+2 Strength, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
Medium
Base land speed 30 feet
Weapon Familiarity: Choose either the Dwarven Waraxe, Dwarven Urgosh, or Urutuk Hatchet; the chosen weapon is a Martial weapon for this dworg
Favored Region: Kaladrun Mountains
Darkvision 60 feet
Minor Light Sensitivity: Upon exposure to bright sunlight or a daylight spell, make a DC (15 or spell save DC) Fortitude save; on a failure, suffer a -1 penalty on Attack Rolls whilst in the light
Kurgun or Clan: Choose either the Clan Dwarf's Stonecunning traits or the Kugun Dwarf's Natural Mountaineer Traits
Spell Resistant: +2 racial bonus on saves vs. spells and spell-like effects, -2 points to Spell Energy
+2 racial bonus on attack rolls vs. orcs and orc-kin
Dwarf & Orc Blood: Treat as both a Dwarf and an Orc for effects that key off of race
Favored Class: Barbarian
That's just human fragility misunderstanding orc culture, anon. You're on the wrong side of history.
Orcs visited my village and there was a fiery but mostly peaceful exchange where my village had the privilege of being culturally enriched by the virile orc culture.
The is little more fun in settings than having some human behaviour be an extreme when compared to other species. That humans are the most warlike in space, or the most friendly. But in fantasy games there is only one true extreme, and that is out of all the species, races, peoples, folk, kith, and c**ts; humans are the horniest.
The last half orc I played had a human father. He wandered into an orc tribe, claimed to be an orc, and punched out anyone who says he wasn't. The chief thought it was hilarious and allowed him to take their right of passage ritual (basically, calvinball with great axes). He passed and was welcomed into the tribe
In regards to a MD/HF relationship: When a male drow is frustrated and a human slave is close by...
In regards to a MH/FD relationship: When a follower of eilistraee takes a bunch of ecstasy and goes dancing naked in the woods with a bunch of human men in blackface...
>follower of eilistraee
Way to b***h out of the fun scenarios. Eilistraee really is the worst aspect of all things drow.
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An Eilistraee follower is like one of the very few cases which could justify MH/FD >sometimes I wonder if there are more half-drow running around in Luskan; considering who has his base there
as for other ways you can have fun with half-orcs is crossing them with tanarukk >I am surprised there are not more crazy eugenicists in D&D, considering all the lineages, crossbreeds and dragons >though I do know there's like one blue dragon lady who made a lot of kids and raised them as her personal army, or something, forgot the name
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>An Eilistraee follower is like one of the very few cases which could justify MH/FD
Bullshit, there's plenty of ways you're just an unimaginative frick >Lolthian drow house beats another, forces the females to bear half-human children to mock them one last time before killing them (the children are then raised as loyal slaves to the conquering house to add extra insult to injury) >a Lolthian female does the above voluntarily/forces her subjects to breed with humans to create a half-breed slave caste that will be more loyal than purebred drow since their house is the only one that will accept such monstrosities >a follower of Vhaeraun who infiltrates surfacer bloodlines to spread her evil there >duergar manage to capture a drow and sell her to surfacers
Hell, even the classic adventurer escaping the Underdark with a drow waifu/war trophy is far superior to Eilistraee homosexualry. She's the b***hmade copout of all things drow.
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>a follower of Vhaeraun who infiltrates surfacer bloodlines to spread her evil there
Vhaeraun is more like elven supremacy; he's not a big fan of the other races
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>he's not a big fan of the other races
Hence why replacing every surface race with half-drow who may or may not be sacrificed later down the line would be perfectly fitting. It even fits with his thievery aspect, since you're literally stealing their lineage.
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I thought vhaeraun believed in drow supremacy but he just wanted gender equality instead of lolth's matriarchy.
>An Eilistraee follower is like one of the very few cases which could justify MH/FD
Bullshit, there's plenty of ways you're just an unimaginative frick >Lolthian drow house beats another, forces the females to bear half-human children to mock them one last time before killing them (the children are then raised as loyal slaves to the conquering house to add extra insult to injury) >a Lolthian female does the above voluntarily/forces her subjects to breed with humans to create a half-breed slave caste that will be more loyal than purebred drow since their house is the only one that will accept such monstrosities >a follower of Vhaeraun who infiltrates surfacer bloodlines to spread her evil there >duergar manage to capture a drow and sell her to surfacers
Hell, even the classic adventurer escaping the Underdark with a drow waifu/war trophy is far superior to Eilistraee homosexualry. She's the b***hmade copout of all things drow.
The only reasonable one would be the first and last one albeit the last one is a universal rather than something specific to drow. What lolthite would lower herself to breeding with a human? Drow dick or demon dog dick only. Maybe a surface elf if you can come up with a good enough justification.
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>What lolthite would lower herself to breeding with a human?
One from a desperate minor House needing a force multiplier but unable or unwilling to engage with other Houses or third party mercenaries for it.
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I remember there being a bunch of barbarian tribes in FR that drow conquered. They made half-drow to rule them since they don't have sunlight sensitivity.
That was probably MD/HF, but possibly not.
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you'd think it is kind of hilarious that you have those barbarians being afraid of a race of (wo)manlets
then you remember that they've got innate magical abilities, they can see in the dark, every drow older than twelve is a trained killer, and when they actually come out of their caves it is to raid and raze your village and drag you down into a life of slavery, or they just sacrifice you
and you won't even hear them until like your house is on fire or something >plus, I think there are implications (not sure if it is canon anymore) that surface races fare badly in the underdark because the radiation which makes the races of the Underdark stronger (or was that just the drow?) makes the surface races sick >but then, maybe it could just be the terrible food, the constant backstabbing the terrible treatment of slaves and the lack of vitamin D
I'm not sure what is worse, drow or orcs, like, at least you can hear orcs from five miles away, and they don't have a drow's intelligence
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Is it bad that I looked at that picture and immediately chuckled
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it's an iconic picture, but since you know it, you were here too long.
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I don't recall any mechanics for the Underdark radiation other than it being necessary to keep their enchanted gear functioning because Gygax wanted to put up some intelligent, well equipped enemies without risk of handing the party a massive hoard of magical weapons and armor. Drow and other Underdark races use the magic radiation to mass produce magical gear, but it degrades rapidly when removed to the surface; basically they cheap out on the enchanting and rely on ambient magic to hold it together. Drow also have no melanin, which blocks UV, but some other pigment to block the weird radiation and they actually sunburn even easier than the palest human you've ever seen.
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Faerzress is highly disruptive to certain forms of magic, and harmful in high amounts to life not adapted to it, but it's also what maintains the ecosystem of the Underdark, ensuring that things actually CAN live down there. That said, orcs are definitely preferable as enemies to drow. Orcs are vicious and cruel, but their brutality is comparatively straightforward compared to the shit the drow come up with on a regular basis.
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Honestly, I am tempted to rework tel'amhothlans (the orc/elf crossbreed from the shitty Kingdoms of Kalamar d20 setting for 3.0) into orc/drow crosbreeds because it kind of makes sense that a lot of drow men would look at their enslaved orc women, who are basically femsub amazons, and go "y'know what, that's a better shag than a drow woman" and keep harems of them for a woman who WON'T try to castrate them mid-climax as part of a religious ceremony/eldritch blood rite/personal kink.
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What about a drow war trophy with an empathy curse and a severed hamstring?
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>t. R.A. Salvatore
Get used to the fact that your purple-eyed twink isn't the first dark elf to rate a good alignment, you goddamn goober.
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>thinks I like Drizzt
He's b***hmade too. I like my drow unambiguously evil and villainous. They're much more fun that way and even if you want your redeemed drow waifu a villainous drow trying to balance her evil, sadistic tendencies with her new goodly lease on life is much more interesting than some le misunderstood chaotic good misandrist hippie dykes. Jarlaxle was always the more interesting renegade male drow anyways
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>Jarlaxle
Even worse.
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>t. man with no taste
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This means nothing coming from an Eilisimp
>t. man with no taste
Of course he has no taste, he likes Eilistraee
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This means nothing coming from an Eilisimp
[...]
Of course he has no taste, he likes Eilistraee
Eili's followers actually play a pretty key role in the latest Salvatore story arc
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wait, R.A. is still making shit?
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he has been churning out roughly one book per year since the late 80s
the last drizzt book was 2023, I think he is switching back to one of his homebrew settings for the next few books though
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You think I care? That's just more reason not to read them
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Elaine Cunningham wrote the superior drow novels.
Salvatore is the Michael Bay of FR novelists.
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>Michael Bay of FR novelists
too few explosions, too little fanservice for that, too few swearwords and juvenile humor
each drow woman can only have two sons at most but as many daughters as they want
naturally the drow with sons will take advantage of this by withholding wiener from the other drow unless they do things for them. naturally then when a human adventurer goes into the underdark he might find himself gangraped by sexually frustrated drow women.
one of the only good things about golarion is that they have a bunch of warrior culture honor autist orcs living in the jungle who do nothing but fight demons 24/7/365, who actively encourage half-orc children with human adventurers because they're more magically inclined and given administrative positions in society, so you can hop on a ship to Greenest Africa and get smothered in amazon snu-snu while living out your doomguy fantasies.
Also they grind up demon bones into a drug and snort it to get high which I'm like 90% sure is a reference to brown-brown which is fricking hilarious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown-brown
They do, though? The genetics are wonky and only work if it's a male orc inseminating a female human. Any embryos formed from a male human inseminating a female orc just isn't viable.
Half-Orcs only exist in the D&D family of games descended from LotR. Stop being the most moronic person on this board and learn some critical thinking. Now cite your source, you scum slurping bottom feeder.
It's all made up anyway, it's not like there's any sort of real example of a hybrid created primarily by a male of one species mating with the female of another (but the other way around is much more difficult).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule
The issue isn't the real world examples to extrapolate from. The issue is you and your subhuman ilk being an unparalleled homosexual shitting up every thread with reddit-style demands for naming the game being talked about.
The human psyche disagrees with you anon. It's instinctual to only think that a foreign evil impregnating your women creates a vile spawn while you impregnating theirs create a beloved cherub.
OP image is from 1e Advanced Race Guide, but you're not wrong about 2e. I noticed that after Ultimate Combat shipped, Paizo seemed to gradually give up on decent art. Bestiary 3 had had good catfolk art, but then came that hideous khajiit shit in ARG.
Why do humans frick everything in sight?
any hole a goal
Muscle gf
Evolutionary strategy. It's why there's just the one hominid left on Earth at least.
>one hominid left
Half-whatevers won the race, we are mutts of mutts mutting around, this is mutt town now.
I mean virtually everybody on the planet (except aborigines apparently) have either neanderthal dna, denisovian dna, or both. So we've been mutts for dozens of millennia.
Pacific aborginals have been interbreeding with mainlanders for centuries now. There is mutt and only mutt.
>In this mutt rape mutt world you either mutt or get mutted, or something like that.
>there's just the one hominid left on Earth
moron.
Manifest Destiny
My half-orc Fighter had a human bard father. You can guess what happened. Strangely, he's not too bitter about it and mostly uses his heritage as an excuse to leave the tribe and fight newer and stronger opponents.
Overpowered sex drive. It helps keep our numbers up.
newbie
Amen.
Should have put this on the Voyager. Would have been much more honest.
>Why do humans frick everything in sight?
yep, people with australian aborginal blood admixture came to existence somehow
What’s with Americans and obsessing about Abo?
Guilt after nearly genociding all of our own natives. And before you ask, yes, we're hypocrites about it.
Would
That's sort of asking why they kill everything in sight. They obviously don't, but the moment a person does kill something it becomes an industry unless you make it illegal at which time it becomes a criminal industry but continues regardless.
Similarly as soon as one person starts fricking dogs or other men or children or whatever it quickly becomes a cause, and must be violently suppressed to be stopped, you have to build whole social structures around forbidding something and people will still do it, just stealthily.
This is a category of behavior I would call "Recurring," along with eating, decorating, and trading things.
Humans are so prolific in creating half-races that they made up lies about half-races sired by human women. There's probably only one half-orc in existence with a human mother and she calls herself "of the human woman" or something.
Orc is literally THE cuckold.
>probably only one half-orc in existence with a human mother
oh sweet summer child, to be so young and innocent again
>There's probably only one half-orc in existence with a human mother
Are you brain damaged or just autistically naive?
Every race has their stereotypes.
Elves have their love of nature, dwarves their skill in smithing, orcs their viciousness in battle. Gnomes are inventive, halflings love their leisure and the leaf.
Humans will frick anything. It's the only thing notably special about them.
Depends on the game.
FRICK YOU OP
ORCS ARE NOT ĆUCKS
I raided an orc village and had my revenge upon their women
>cucking your women by having sex with human women is fine
>but cucking the men by having sex with human men is le bad
Yes.
>Half Orcs don't HAVE to have a human mother anon...
Yes, but why DO they so often?... Hmmm?...
Two related reasons
Humans are the most plentiful usually in a setting. The second is that orcs rape...
So do humans
>"So, since half-orcs don't have to have a human mother. Mine is a half orc/half X"
>"Yes, this means I should have [insert cherry picked racial trait or powerful feat analogous to said trait]
if it isn't on the chart I won't allow it
>now that I think about it, there should be rules about making half-dragon whatevers
There is a rule for half dragons. Pathfinder was actually very good about including rules for Half-(insert op thing here), half dragons, half celestial etc. It wasn't particularly imaginative really, since it's mostly "give it the following stat boosts and this ability" or whatever, but it exists.
>3rd party
Even the faerun book says its possible to make elf/orc dwarf/orcs, etc. Shit even one of their gods has crossbreeding in his portfolio.
Orc x Halfling is actually the most cursed thing I've ever thought about
Honestly, different cosmology but I always just justified it in my head for a homebrew setting that you take the "common" fantasy races and split them in a way that makes sense visually. Orc & Dwarf or Halfling? Goblin. Human and Dwarf? Halflings. That way you don't have a bunch of half-whatever races and templates to account for and it significantly cuts down on all the bullshit. But I doubt that's a popular idea and doesn't work at all in most established settings.
>orc x halfling
I remember Kuroinu, poor Ruu Ruu
>elf/orc
not in Forgotten realms, for godly reasons
>orc god really hates Corellon for taking his eye
>stories are told
"My best friend's room-mate's uncle's sister-in-law's work buddy knows a half-orc whose mother is a halfling!" Yes, and the prostitute I fricked last night was totally a former Waterdeep princess.
>the prostitute I fricked last night was totally a former Waterdeep princess.
Mine was. I kidnapped her and turned her out myself.
>portfolio
Which God?
Ilneval
Still, you'd think that would be more MD/HF. Youre going to have to spend a year pregnant so why would you want to carry a mutt when you can have your sons have fun with a dozen slaves and make them carry them instead?
>you'd think that would be more MD/HF
Could be both. It's a male's duty and a female's punishment for underperforming.
Ehh. I still feel like a more fitting punishment would be to let her be topped by a male drow. Still humiliating while not polluting HER bloodline with bastards. Thats just my take but i suppose you can handwave issues or inconsistencies with the drow with "because lolth lol".
4e's core setting actually has an elf/orc half-breed demigoddess whose tiny church is dedicated to trying to end the eons-long war between the two races.
Frick Half Orcs
Okay.
Sprites are flexible little fleshlights aren't they?
Why are dragons such bawds
they can transform, I hope they actually transform
because those size dimensions are quite troubling
Counterpoint: everybody else is a bawd when the dragon flies by. The actual dragons are just willing to share their greatness with lesser beings.
https://youtube.com/shorts/CUSQ1yM6zT4?si=wJbkKDNqs7jsZ_Ra
>Orc celestials
Frick yes this orc is gonna be RESPLENDENT.
OK seriously, why are human/dwarf hybrids not allowed on this despite there being canonical human/dwarf hybrids in official fricking D&D settings?
>why are human/dwarf hybrids not allowed on this despite there being canonical human/dwarf hybrids in official fricking D&D settings?
Because the chart is idiotic shot describing a third-party products setting, It is not official and is based on a shit setting for a sex book. Nobody should be using the chart for anything.
I thought dwarf human hybrids were only a thing in Dark Sun
There's some named human/dwarves in Forgotten Realms. And they're not infertile like the Mul.
Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance both have had dwarf/human crossbreeding be a thing since 1e. But in the Realms, human + dwarf basically just produces a slightly taller and more fertile dwarf 99% of the time, and Krynnish half-dwarfs had such crap stats that nobody remembers them.
>Breeding with Green monster men/pig people - A-OK
>Breeding with short humans who have large beards - NUH UH
Is it a gaiderism? Did they think it would be pedophilia if someone fricked a female dwarf?
>there should be rules about making half-dragon whatevers
Are you moronic? It's called a fricking template.
>Ogre/Sprite
>Maybe
Where's a hole there's a goal
You can just say 'elven accuracy'
You dont have to tell me. I went out of my way to make a custom half orc template because youd think a half orc that spawned from an elf, a dwarf, and a human would have different stat adjustments based on its non orc parentage.
What's a dworc got going for it
Actually, pretty decent stats in Midnight D20. Where, admittedly, dworgs (as they're called) are the only kind of half-orc, as orcs in that setting are corrupted dwarves.
+2 Strength, +2 Constitution, -2 Intelligence, -2 Charisma
Medium
Base land speed 30 feet
Weapon Familiarity: Choose either the Dwarven Waraxe, Dwarven Urgosh, or Urutuk Hatchet; the chosen weapon is a Martial weapon for this dworg
Favored Region: Kaladrun Mountains
Darkvision 60 feet
Minor Light Sensitivity: Upon exposure to bright sunlight or a daylight spell, make a DC (15 or spell save DC) Fortitude save; on a failure, suffer a -1 penalty on Attack Rolls whilst in the light
Kurgun or Clan: Choose either the Clan Dwarf's Stonecunning traits or the Kugun Dwarf's Natural Mountaineer Traits
Spell Resistant: +2 racial bonus on saves vs. spells and spell-like effects, -2 points to Spell Energy
+2 racial bonus on attack rolls vs. orcs and orc-kin
Dwarf & Orc Blood: Treat as both a Dwarf and an Orc for effects that key off of race
Favored Class: Barbarian
Coom thread
Dibs negated
Are you seriously telling me you want to frick THIS?
Yes. So long as she's kind.
Orcs are not particularly known for their kindness.
That's just human fragility misunderstanding orc culture, anon. You're on the wrong side of history.
Orcs visited my village and there was a fiery but mostly peaceful exchange where my village had the privilege of being culturally enriched by the virile orc culture.
Funny. Here's some green breasts as a reward.
Good green gal.
>So long as she's kind.
You. You understand.
Her and all of her sisters.
Even better.
The is little more fun in settings than having some human behaviour be an extreme when compared to other species. That humans are the most warlike in space, or the most friendly. But in fantasy games there is only one true extreme, and that is out of all the species, races, peoples, folk, kith, and c**ts; humans are the horniest.
The last half orc I played had a human father. He wandered into an orc tribe, claimed to be an orc, and punched out anyone who says he wasn't. The chief thought it was hilarious and allowed him to take their right of passage ritual (basically, calvinball with great axes). He passed and was welcomed into the tribe
>male human/female orc
>Chads
>female human/male orc
>rape baby
every time
That's female hypergamy for ya
then can you explain half-drow to me?
In regards to a MD/HF relationship: When a male drow is frustrated and a human slave is close by...
In regards to a MH/FD relationship: When a follower of eilistraee takes a bunch of ecstasy and goes dancing naked in the woods with a bunch of human men in blackface...
>follower of eilistraee
Way to b***h out of the fun scenarios. Eilistraee really is the worst aspect of all things drow.
An Eilistraee follower is like one of the very few cases which could justify MH/FD
>sometimes I wonder if there are more half-drow running around in Luskan; considering who has his base there
as for other ways you can have fun with half-orcs is crossing them with tanarukk
>I am surprised there are not more crazy eugenicists in D&D, considering all the lineages, crossbreeds and dragons
>though I do know there's like one blue dragon lady who made a lot of kids and raised them as her personal army, or something, forgot the name
>An Eilistraee follower is like one of the very few cases which could justify MH/FD
Bullshit, there's plenty of ways you're just an unimaginative frick
>Lolthian drow house beats another, forces the females to bear half-human children to mock them one last time before killing them (the children are then raised as loyal slaves to the conquering house to add extra insult to injury)
>a Lolthian female does the above voluntarily/forces her subjects to breed with humans to create a half-breed slave caste that will be more loyal than purebred drow since their house is the only one that will accept such monstrosities
>a follower of Vhaeraun who infiltrates surfacer bloodlines to spread her evil there
>duergar manage to capture a drow and sell her to surfacers
Hell, even the classic adventurer escaping the Underdark with a drow waifu/war trophy is far superior to Eilistraee homosexualry. She's the b***hmade copout of all things drow.
>a follower of Vhaeraun who infiltrates surfacer bloodlines to spread her evil there
Vhaeraun is more like elven supremacy; he's not a big fan of the other races
>he's not a big fan of the other races
Hence why replacing every surface race with half-drow who may or may not be sacrificed later down the line would be perfectly fitting. It even fits with his thievery aspect, since you're literally stealing their lineage.
I thought vhaeraun believed in drow supremacy but he just wanted gender equality instead of lolth's matriarchy.
The only reasonable one would be the first and last one albeit the last one is a universal rather than something specific to drow. What lolthite would lower herself to breeding with a human? Drow dick or demon dog dick only. Maybe a surface elf if you can come up with a good enough justification.
>What lolthite would lower herself to breeding with a human?
One from a desperate minor House needing a force multiplier but unable or unwilling to engage with other Houses or third party mercenaries for it.
I remember there being a bunch of barbarian tribes in FR that drow conquered. They made half-drow to rule them since they don't have sunlight sensitivity.
That was probably MD/HF, but possibly not.
you'd think it is kind of hilarious that you have those barbarians being afraid of a race of (wo)manlets
then you remember that they've got innate magical abilities, they can see in the dark, every drow older than twelve is a trained killer, and when they actually come out of their caves it is to raid and raze your village and drag you down into a life of slavery, or they just sacrifice you
and you won't even hear them until like your house is on fire or something
>plus, I think there are implications (not sure if it is canon anymore) that surface races fare badly in the underdark because the radiation which makes the races of the Underdark stronger (or was that just the drow?) makes the surface races sick
>but then, maybe it could just be the terrible food, the constant backstabbing the terrible treatment of slaves and the lack of vitamin D
I'm not sure what is worse, drow or orcs, like, at least you can hear orcs from five miles away, and they don't have a drow's intelligence
Is it bad that I looked at that picture and immediately chuckled
it's an iconic picture, but since you know it, you were here too long.
I don't recall any mechanics for the Underdark radiation other than it being necessary to keep their enchanted gear functioning because Gygax wanted to put up some intelligent, well equipped enemies without risk of handing the party a massive hoard of magical weapons and armor. Drow and other Underdark races use the magic radiation to mass produce magical gear, but it degrades rapidly when removed to the surface; basically they cheap out on the enchanting and rely on ambient magic to hold it together. Drow also have no melanin, which blocks UV, but some other pigment to block the weird radiation and they actually sunburn even easier than the palest human you've ever seen.
Faerzress is highly disruptive to certain forms of magic, and harmful in high amounts to life not adapted to it, but it's also what maintains the ecosystem of the Underdark, ensuring that things actually CAN live down there. That said, orcs are definitely preferable as enemies to drow. Orcs are vicious and cruel, but their brutality is comparatively straightforward compared to the shit the drow come up with on a regular basis.
Honestly, I am tempted to rework tel'amhothlans (the orc/elf crossbreed from the shitty Kingdoms of Kalamar d20 setting for 3.0) into orc/drow crosbreeds because it kind of makes sense that a lot of drow men would look at their enslaved orc women, who are basically femsub amazons, and go "y'know what, that's a better shag than a drow woman" and keep harems of them for a woman who WON'T try to castrate them mid-climax as part of a religious ceremony/eldritch blood rite/personal kink.
What about a drow war trophy with an empathy curse and a severed hamstring?
>t. R.A. Salvatore
Get used to the fact that your purple-eyed twink isn't the first dark elf to rate a good alignment, you goddamn goober.
>thinks I like Drizzt
He's b***hmade too. I like my drow unambiguously evil and villainous. They're much more fun that way and even if you want your redeemed drow waifu a villainous drow trying to balance her evil, sadistic tendencies with her new goodly lease on life is much more interesting than some le misunderstood chaotic good misandrist hippie dykes.
Jarlaxle was always the more interesting renegade male drow anyways
>Jarlaxle
Even worse.
>t. man with no taste
This means nothing coming from an Eilisimp
Of course he has no taste, he likes Eilistraee
Eili's followers actually play a pretty key role in the latest Salvatore story arc
wait, R.A. is still making shit?
he has been churning out roughly one book per year since the late 80s
the last drizzt book was 2023, I think he is switching back to one of his homebrew settings for the next few books though
You think I care? That's just more reason not to read them
Elaine Cunningham wrote the superior drow novels.
Salvatore is the Michael Bay of FR novelists.
>Michael Bay of FR novelists
too few explosions, too little fanservice for that, too few swearwords and juvenile humor
each drow woman can only have two sons at most but as many daughters as they want
naturally the drow with sons will take advantage of this by withholding wiener from the other drow unless they do things for them. naturally then when a human adventurer goes into the underdark he might find himself gangraped by sexually frustrated drow women.
they can have as many sons as they want after killing the third one, it is a one time thing
Honestly there should be a lot more human father half orcs
>disorganized, less advanced tribes
>constantly getting pushed out by other races
>dumb and strong, perfect for hard labor
Orcs would be constantly attacked and raided for slave labor.
>ringed off region organised by human daddios with their bangin orcwives
>half orc offspring raised communally, hard labour between human teachings
one of the only good things about golarion is that they have a bunch of warrior culture honor autist orcs living in the jungle who do nothing but fight demons 24/7/365, who actively encourage half-orc children with human adventurers because they're more magically inclined and given administrative positions in society, so you can hop on a ship to Greenest Africa and get smothered in amazon snu-snu while living out your doomguy fantasies.
Also they grind up demon bones into a drug and snort it to get high which I'm like 90% sure is a reference to brown-brown which is fricking hilarious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown-brown
And us gnomes will be at the center of this transformation
>My parents were gladiators/professional wrestlers
>They had this kayfabe that they were a couple and kind of are committed to the bit.
If all orcs were exterminated, what sector of society would suffer?
The gnomes who promote Orc Male x Elf Female couplings.
What about Elf Male x Orc Female instead?
Fujos would find some other designated uggo race to self-insert as.
Sound annoying
The military industrial complex.
They're good engineers when it comes to weapons according to thol-keen
I've started seeing a half-orc girl, are they usually uh... Loud? My apartment building has noise complaint rules.
They do, though? The genetics are wonky and only work if it's a male orc inseminating a female human. Any embryos formed from a male human inseminating a female orc just isn't viable.
Cite your source.
Cite which game.
Half-Orcs only exist in the D&D family of games descended from LotR. Stop being the most moronic person on this board and learn some critical thinking. Now cite your source, you scum slurping bottom feeder.
It's all made up anyway, it's not like there's any sort of real example of a hybrid created primarily by a male of one species mating with the female of another (but the other way around is much more difficult).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule
also Islanders (30% Celtic from their mothers side).
The issue isn't the real world examples to extrapolate from. The issue is you and your subhuman ilk being an unparalleled homosexual shitting up every thread with reddit-style demands for naming the game being talked about.
They can also have an orc father, an orc mother and be chopped in half
You're right. There can always be this one very dedicated male human bard who caused like half of them. Captcha related
To think, that teenager became a royal consort.
he must taste her first
Given that orcs are shown in Laios' post-coronation tapestries, it's probable that he liked it.
EVIL Laios.
how many nipples?
Not usually into pig orcs but sometimes it's alright.
she's way cute!
The human psyche disagrees with you anon. It's instinctual to only think that a foreign evil impregnating your women creates a vile spawn while you impregnating theirs create a beloved cherub.
Well duh...
You might as well have said toast is a better breakfast food than sandstone.
Everything associated with PF2 is so incredibly fricking ugly, jesus christ, why is PF2 so goddamn garbage in every conceivable way?
OP image is from 1e Advanced Race Guide, but you're not wrong about 2e. I noticed that after Ultimate Combat shipped, Paizo seemed to gradually give up on decent art. Bestiary 3 had had good catfolk art, but then came that hideous khajiit shit in ARG.
You can't just say that and not post an example of good catfolk art
Fair enough.
Would.
show me the half-elf half-gith and nobody gets hurt
Would