You're not being rather fair in saying that disturbing content is something only kids would find shocking. There's nothing at a point in your life that will just tell you that seeing blood is something you'll just get used too.
Even if it's a video game. If there's been nothing graphic that's even made you think that it wasn't nasty then I think whatever game you played didn't achieve the point of having the graphic content.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>didn't achieve the point of having the graphic content.
said point being
1 month ago
Anonymous
My point is that you just have been desensitized
1 month ago
Anonymous
no I think it's the opposite, you're simply too sensitive
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's nothing wrong with being sensitive to gore I mean it's death it's ugly
Big spoilers for SMT IV Apocalypse
In Apocalypse, the protagonist is revived from death by a god named Dagda, who wants to free humanity from the rule of the gods and deities, and plans to do this by essentially resetting the whole universe to zero, except now humans are alone in it and gods(including himself) are just the rules of nature, without thoughts or desires, but his plan does need for the death of all gods and humans in the current universe.
If you go against him, he decides to revoke your living privileges(since he revived you, he is the one keeping you alive), so the solution is to create a new Dagda(the goddess who birthed him is in the party), except this one agrees with everything the heroes want to do and have it replace the old one, so you do it.
I cant properly explain how fricked up this seems to me, I understand the part of having to create a new lifeline for the protagonist, but to pretend that this new iteration is in any way a person and that I should feel anything positive about it is impossible to me, old Dagda had tens of thousands of years to reach his conclusion and while he was shit at explaning his argument, it had depth and you could understand it, new Dagda is just a doll that just exists to agree with everything whoever created it wanted, it's the ultimate spit on the face on a character who wanted freedom for humanity to be whatever it wants and for him to return to being a fundamental part of nature to be thrown away and replaced with whatever was needed at the moment. When the game ends new Dagda gives a little encouraging speech about how far the MC has come, and I only felt disgust at his words, this was supposed to be a heartfelt ending and here I was being forced to pretend that this automaton wearing the face of someone I respected was my friend.
Also, I guess I didnt properly explain the theme. The route of the game in which all of this happens, is coloquially known as the Bonds route, the game beats you over the head with the importance of the Power of Friendship and how you can achieve everything if you have friends at your side. Problem is, is that barring the childhood friend/adopted sister of the MC, you have actually, literally known, all the "friends" for less than a week, a player can make their own headcanon about how much an rpg adventure takes, not in Apocalypse, it straight up tells you that every Chapter of the game is one day of the adventure, some of the ""friends" you have met for 5 or 4 days, and New Dagda, you have met for literally hours, he gets summoned in the final dungeon, so even if I was completely on board with the unpersoning and metaphysical erasure of Old Dagda, all the words ring hollow, these people are not my friends, and this Dagda can barely be called an acquantaince, the game fails at delivering its message by putting an unnecesary short timespan and then it tries to beat me over the head on how important these people are to me and me to them, when you literally have the option to treat them all like complete garbage, and the only effect it has is Old Dagda punishing you for being a gay that cant stick to his guns,. You can be a total piece of shit to them and deny their friendship, and the game forces it on you anyways, it's not nearly as fricked up like the previous post but it does make me feel "uncomfortable" how shallow the game was at attempting to introduce the concept of friendship in this story.
Maybe the "hook" or point of showing the shallowness and unearned nature of the Bonds route is to highlight why Persona-lite shit doesn't work in SMT. It certainly seems like its shooting for the same thing only to completely lose its teeth when you think about it.
Also, I guess I didnt properly explain the theme. The route of the game in which all of this happens, is coloquially known as the Bonds route, the game beats you over the head with the importance of the Power of Friendship and how you can achieve everything if you have friends at your side. Problem is, is that barring the childhood friend/adopted sister of the MC, you have actually, literally known, all the "friends" for less than a week, a player can make their own headcanon about how much an rpg adventure takes, not in Apocalypse, it straight up tells you that every Chapter of the game is one day of the adventure, some of the ""friends" you have met for 5 or 4 days, and New Dagda, you have met for literally hours, he gets summoned in the final dungeon, so even if I was completely on board with the unpersoning and metaphysical erasure of Old Dagda, all the words ring hollow, these people are not my friends, and this Dagda can barely be called an acquantaince, the game fails at delivering its message by putting an unnecesary short timespan and then it tries to beat me over the head on how important these people are to me and me to them, when you literally have the option to treat them all like complete garbage, and the only effect it has is Old Dagda punishing you for being a gay that cant stick to his guns,. You can be a total piece of shit to them and deny their friendship, and the game forces it on you anyways, it's not nearly as fricked up like the previous post but it does make me feel "uncomfortable" how shallow the game was at attempting to introduce the concept of friendship in this story.
With the subject matter? No. I've felt bad or whatever if sad shit's happening, but that's about it. I guess the closest to "uncomfortable" were the unavoidable rape scenes in Holy Knight Ricca, because Ricca is a good girl and didn't deserve it.
Most of the rape scenes are completely avoidable. Just beat the shit out of everything in your way. There are two that happen as part of the story that you can't avoid. If I recall, there's a third one that you can skip, though you have to do some precise maneuvering to avoid the enemy to do so, which you probably won't on your first playthrough.
Saya no Uta I guess. I don't mind the lovecraftian body horror or even what happened to Yoh, but I do mind graphic depictions of e-girl porn. I'd rather they'd just show them with Saya's real form.
Same. I heard one of the characters says a swear word in it.
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She's not even really a e-girl, she's an eldritch horror that the protagonist (and later his neighbor after she sticks a tentacle in his brain) perceives as a e-girl.
e-girl rape is one of the worst things I've ever heard about being in a game. Fixed a typo lol.
Even if she's just some demon like children looking like they are being harmed is one thing i just can't get used to seeing in fiction. Call me sensitive or whatever but people dying or being raped is just uncomfortable.
Rape scenes are really pretty standard for visual novels, so the stuff in Saya no Uta really isn't that extreme when compared to the rest of the medium.
Just because rape is commonly depicted doesn't make it somehow more easy to look at. But I understand what you mean there's worse cases of it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I just said that because you said you heard Saya no Uta is one of the most disturbing anime games. There's a lot more that would frick you up harder if rape makes you uncomfortable, Saya no Uta is fairly mild in my opinion. The Japanese are very good at being mentally disturbed.
Well using that as an example, any rpg, sim, strategy game with dating sim elements, etc where im forced to play as a female makes me uncomfortable.
I'm male. I know what it is to be male. I don't know what it's like to be female. I don't want to know either. Saying that, i don't play any games like that. I don't put my finger in fire and whine when it hurts.
Sounds like you're really sensitive.
I hope you never complain about people caring about representation in media.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you okay?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I'm fine.
How are you?
1 month ago
Anonymous
How so? I'm not female. It's physically and mentally impossible for me as a male to truly understand what it's like to be a female. I enjoy the immersion of gaming. Having to switch my brain on to attempt to understand, beyond simple empathy, what the frick a woman would do or what id do as a woman makes me uncomfortable. How does that make me really sensitive?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Anon you're being moronic no game is asking you to be a woman. You're making it sound like selecting a game character like idk fricking master cheif you would become master chef irl.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Kek, typed like a typical woman. Kys troon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So this entire story you made up about being uncomfortable being a girl in video games was to call someone a troon?
It's not really. It just has some moderately extreme sexual violence and depictions of sex with the very underaged girl, some of which is rape.
So, in a sense it it's disturbing, but not really for any kind of artistic merit, just disturbing for disturbing's sake, like making somebody watch a video of people kicking puppies. Which I think makes it kind of less notable. Anyone could just write 'the most fricked up thing ever' and it's not interesting. Saya is a little interesting for other reasons white room ending best ending but the 'disturbing' stuff honestly is just stupid imo.
She's not even really a e-girl, she's an eldritch horror that the protagonist (and later his neighbor after she sticks a tentacle in his brain) perceives as a e-girl.
Hey, why couldn't Saya fix his brain in such a way that he saw everything as normal but still saw her as a e-girl? Or better yet, saw her as a sexy adult woman?
Was the idea that the brain damage just flipped his disgust/pleased switches so it couldn't get as specific as that?
Yeah, you could think of it as a switch. I believe it was the brain surgery he got after the accident that caused this flip. Saya is only able to flip the switch back after she receives information about the human body through Fuminori's DNA aka his potent seed.
Define what you mean by "uncomfortable".
Ive been angered by mechanics or lack thereof, but never the subject matter.
For example, the Half Ogre Island quest chain in Arcanum pissed me off because the quest chain was deliberately a dead end.
Whereas RapeLay was a good, if extremely shallow porn game that never angered me.
getting birthed in the fallout 3 intro and getting daddy'd up was kind of weird
but the special book and birthday party was cool
and I didn't play solider of fortune(1 or 2 I can't remember) because I was immediately put off by its gun gore and groaning fx
I don't know, I can't explain it rationally. I suppose it's an irrational fear, something about it just creeps me out. Doesn't help I've had a few experiences with old places I used to live where I felt like something was around/watching me.
The tapes of Paz and other POWs in GZ didn't ever bother me until I went through a psychotic break. Now shit like that and some times Evil Within triggers PTSD in me
I think I may have suddenly developed akathisia or something from some prescription drugs I was on. Basically one day everything was normal and then I had a massive panic attack out of nowhere. 5 hours of being unable to breathe, hands and feet paralyzed, racing heart, the like. I pass out and finally wake up, and the panic attack hadnt stopped. Every nerve is jumpy, every muscle is twitchy. I couldnt sleep, shit, drive, work, eat, watch anything, listen to any music, and hardly play video games without triggering a massive panic attack, like a panic attack to the power of panic attack. If you've ever had one before, you know the mark of a panic attack is an impending sense of doom. A palpable "im about to die oh frick". Have you ever had to sneeze but just won't? I've been on the cusp of sneezing a panic attack for several years and occasionally it tips over. I feel like I'm in mortal danger and about to die 24/7 for years. Anything can set it off.
Ive practiced meditation and yoga for most of my life, and I've gotten to where I maintain stoic equanimity psychologically even while my body is experiencing a panic attack. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with me so they usually just dismiss me as having high anxiety so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry. Fell into heavy drinking to cope until alcoholism almost killed me, got sober and am currently a neet. Some days im good to work, but basically i have to just hold down a job while suffering nerve pain and looming panic attacks any second. Never let the docs put you on any drugs for your head and make sure you eat healthy and get some sun and exercise every day. I can finally meditate again starting late last year and at least there I can find some peace.
that's terrifying, man. it's scary how little we know about the brain and how invisible switches being flicked like that can completely alter our life for the worst. >so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry
you and a lot of others I've heard. I guess our healthcare system is a lot better how it was from previous centuries, but it doesn't mean it isn't unreliable as hell. I guess you can't change human nature, and that any system is overseen by it.
>Doctors didn't know what was wrong with me so they usually just dismiss me as having high anxiety so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry.
something to keep in mind, focus on one thing that is wrong, provide clear explanations to your symptoms, and get regular checkups. if you're still having other problems, then work on narrowing them down.
if you have laundry list of things to throw at people, and don't have a decent background of info then you're just setting yourself up for a scatter shot hope of getting treated.
The first game has some mild body horror and gore stuff.
The demo for the second is making me much more uncomfortable, the gore is a lot more detailed, and the heavy breathing of a downed enemy bleeding out is disturbing.
>Motherfricker heavily bleeding on the ground after taking a shotgun to the chest >Turn my back >Son of a b***h still shoots me >Blow her face with another shotgun round
I think that's the bit that drives me nuts. In the story they were all brainwashed by the sleeping god, So In the back of my head I'm wondering if I should try to leave them alive or is it already too late and I should put them all out of their misery.
>Motherfricker heavily bleeding on the ground after taking a shotgun to the chest >Turn my back >Son of a b***h still shoots me >Blow her face with another shotgun round
Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bm3le9s3-A
(You can skip to 5:30 if you'd like.)
Paraphore. It's text based, with really shitty gay art you should ignore. You'll sift through a lot of degeneracy for the three scenes I mentioned. I think everyone should try it just for the experience. Fun for the whole family.
mgs2 when the colonel goes bonkers and start pointing out that was a game... but then he started spilling bullshit and the whole uncomfortable feeling was gone
Yeah, that scene in Taimanin Asagi 3 where they have Sakura and Murasaki eating cum from bowls after they've been whipped and raped and then decide to decapitate Murasaki while poor Sakura is still on all fours eating from her cum bowl right next to her. That shit almost killed my boner.
detroit is not a heavy game, it's very bland racism le bad message
why yes, racism is bad, next game should be about how murder and rape are bad too
thank you, very cool game message
Racism is bad because it doesn't serve a purpose its just hatred for the sake of it. In this case the robots never asked to be robots but they are persecuted anyway. This is a basic narrative that it's surprising you didn't understand it.
>Racism is bad because it doesn't serve a purpose its just hatred for the sake of it.
This isn't correct at all. Everyone is happier and more productive among their own people. What you call racism I call in-group preference, and I think that's a very important quality for preserving cultures. >In this case the robots never asked to be robots but they are persecuted anyway.
Robots aren't really comparable at all to different human races and cultures because they're tools built by humans in the first place.
Races want to hurt other races when they're forced to compete for the same resources, you mean. Which is why everyone should have their own spaces.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You really think Detroit become human should've been about the robots forming a ghetto for themselves lol
1 month ago
Anonymous
Maybe. Why not? Logically, robots can never be equal to humans. They're not the same. Why shouldn't they have their own country made by and for robots, all about catering to their wants and needs?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Becoming a human to you then is establishing yourself above other humans.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, not at all. It's about establishing yourself as your own entity which can determine its own future. How did you get that from my post?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You can establish yourself after killing everybody is what I think you're trying to say
If you were to be isekai'd into a world of lizard people, would you expect them to treat you like their own family?
You can establish yourself after killing everybody is what I think you're trying to say
No, not at all. Why do you keep imagining things I didn't say? Racial tensions only happen when two groups have to compete for the same resources. Violence comes from forcing different races together. If everyone has their own space and their own resources then there's no racial conflict.
I'm not saying people should be put in camps, though. I'm saying everyone should have their own state. Why do you keep trying to put words in my mouth? I don't want anyone to be killed or hurt. I think cultures are very, very precious and can never be replaced when they're gone. Which is why I think it's important to recognize racial sovereignty for all peoples.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah and after this dream scenario where everybody plays along and is properly segregated we'll just murder anybody who tries to congregate with the other races again.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, I don't think that's right at all. There's nothing wrong with cooperation or mingling, it's just that one race shouldn't expect anything from another race. Nobody should have the right to another group's property or the fruits of their labor.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Racists don't like that other races exist
How hard is it for you to understand that
1 month ago
Anonymous
You have a very childish understanding of 'racism' which makes you shove racial supremacy and genocide under the same umbrella as being rude to black people. I'm what you'd consider a racist, but I want to preserve other races.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Who cares what you consider yourself you guys are maniacs
1 month ago
Anonymous
But you're the ones creating endless amounts of pointless violence because you insist on shoving so many groups of different people with different wants, needs, and values into the same spaces to compete for scarce resources. Nobody would want to kill black people if the black people weren't in their spaces and taking their money, you know? They wouldn't even think about black people at all. People like you create that resentment because you want to deny black people their heritage.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There we go there's the crazy. I know you were holding back that entire conversation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
nice someone who basically thinks like i do
i like earth having multiple races and cultures, it's how i thought the world operated when i was a kid (early 90s)
cultures and races were so fascinating to me. it sucks with a global world to see them eviscerated. i don't want them gone but i dont think they all belong together
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, if you mash everyone together, everyone becomes the same, the things that make all these races and cultures unique vanishes. I don't want the whole world to be a Walmart parking lot. I study mythology so this kind of stuff is important to me.
1 month ago
Anonymous
That guy doesn't want to preserve races because of his fascination in them. Racists who are okay with other races existing want them to exist as a subclass of people whom it is alright to exploit. Southern slave owners were essentially racist by definition, but they would fricking hate it if black people didn't exist for them to exploit.
What you're talking about still exists, you're just being a doomer stuck in right wing echo chambers.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>That guy doesn't want to preserve races because of his fascination in them.
Yes I do. >Racists who are okay with other races existing want them to exist as a subclass of people whom it is alright to exploit.
Not at all. I don't think anyone should get to exploit anyone else.
It seems like you just want to call me a liar because you have a very childish worldview and you can't accept that the lie you were fed about racists being evil psychopaths who hate people for no reason is indeed a lie. I mean everything I said with 100% honesty.
There we go there's the crazy. I know you were holding back that entire conversation.
Where's the crazy? That posts goes in reverse, too. White people shouldn't be in Africa taking things from blacks either.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Anon assumes all blacks are bloodthirsty monsters how is that not crazy
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Anon assumes all blacks are bloodthirsty monsters
No, I did not. You keep imagining things that weren't said at all. Are you projecting a little, maybe?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>if you make multiple groups compete for resources then they will ally along racial lines and there will be violence >OH SO BLACK PEOPLE ARE JUST INSANE VIOLENCE MONSTERS THAT RAPE AND KILL HUH IS THAT IT
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's what you think. You're a racist
1 month ago
Anonymous
I think (know) that many African peoples have matriarchal cultures which handle wrongdoing through elder-enforced rulings and physical punishment, which you can personally see continues even among American-born blacks if you live among them (as I have, because my wife is black). This isn't a problem by itself, but it's a problem when they're mashed into spaces with racial groups that work very differently. That's where racial tension comes from.
You deny Africans their heritage and insist there's nothing unique about them and that they need to be 'fixed' through your enlightened western standards. Because you're a childish person who places no value on any culture but American corporate culture.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Racial tension comes from racists
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is like saying >water comes from rain
1 month ago
Anonymous
Get rid of rain you still have water around
Get rid of racists. Racism doesn't exist anymore
1 month ago
Anonymous
Racism will exist as long as you insist on forcing different groups to share the same resources, because racism is just in-group preference. What you're actually suggesting is to pick off each race one by one. You're throwing two hungry dogs into a small cage with a steak in the middle and then saying we should shoot the one who goes for the meat first because he's denying the other dog equality.
1 month ago
Anonymous
No it wouldn't because then it would just be normal people living together
1 month ago
Anonymous
You know it would be entirely possible to have a multiracial group of people other another group based on things that aren't race.
1 month ago
Anonymous
In large numbers it will always reduce to race. Culture doesn't spawn from nothing, it's downstream from race. Your genetics determine your thought patterns, how you perceive things, and what's important to you. There's nothing more fundamental than race. That's not to say that people of different races can't get along or work together toward common goals. But when push comes to shove, it will reduce to race.
Let's say some shit goes down and the electric grid collapses and there's no more food coming into the Walmart. You get along with your neighbor, you've always been on friendly terms, they've watched your house while you went on holiday, you've fed their dogs while they went out on a date, etc. Well, now there's no food. But a deer just wandered into the street between your houses, and you're hungry. Only one of you gets to eat. You're not going to let your family starve for them. At least, no healthy person would. That's just nature.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>being a racist is cool because under these other extreme situations I'm certainly not under shit goes to shit
Not actually her story I was just uncomfortable that I wasted so much time on something so boring just because somebody wanted to write a story about a 15yo wanting to have sex with their 30yo coolguy self-insert out of pity.
last time I even thought more than a second about my options was in BG3 during the creche, and that was less about being uncomfortable and more abot "Laezel is gonna hate this"
In GTA:Liberty City Stories,there is a mission where you Blow up a large neighbourhood and basically recreate 9/11. And iz was released only 5 years after the acual attack. After that you can walk through that area and it looks like Ground Zero. I am not even American but it felt quite disturbing.
I think FF7 Remake did that pretty well with its beginning >blow up the Mako reactor, Barret gives his big speech, everyone goes "GO AVALANCHE" >get to walk around and see the absolute state of the plate
if you play it for the first time you probably go "why the frick did we do that"
In one of the murder mysteries in Rain Code, you solve the case of the murder of a high school student, which was committed by a group of three friends. The victim had murdered their friend in cold blood a year previously due to jealousy. Solving the case causes your ally, a shinigami, to reap their souls and kill all three perpetrators. "An eye for an eye" is how every chapter of the game is solved. I don't know why, but just that case fricked with my head and I stopped playing for a day or two. Those three teenagers only killed because the corrupt cops covered up their friend's murder as a suicide. Killing them didn't feel like justice, and having a character who is the MC's "friend" end their lives directly due to my actions as the player made me feel like shit. Still loved the game and dark themes. I don't know why a fricking anime game of all things got to me so deeply.
Sayori route on DDLC, that shit was genuinely disturbing with the distorted theme song. All the other routes are memes but Sayori's is fricked up because it can actually happen.
I thought the Yuri route was good. Not the parts about her just being a psycho yandere type, that was a bit goofy. But the self-harm angle, and the sheer length of the corpse segment.
Disco Elysium has a lot of self-loathing stuff that hit far too close to home far too often. Though it's ultimately uplifting because you can work through it. There were definitely times where I stopped playing and looked out the window for a while.
The Frenzied Flame ending of Elden Ring (and finding the Three Fingers) was particularly disturbing to me. Any sort of well delivered apocalyptic scenario that actually has a sense of finality can get under my skin. Devil Man has done similar.
Some of the human trafficking stuff in Cyberpunk 2077 was pretty stomach churning too. Most of it is in the shards so you can skim past most of it (bar Evlyn) but if you actually stop and do some detective work, it's dark as frick. Made me think of how often that happens IRL in large cities.
It winds up going to silly places, but good chunks of Metal Gear Solid V were disturbing when you knew what they were referencing IRL. Just all of the torture and POW stuff. And the medical experiments in Africa. Walking around "The Devil's House" was fricked, thinking that there are/were people out there subjected to similar kinds of experiments, either in Africa in the Cold War era, or further back in Unit 731 and other WWII camps.
No.
how do i learn this power
Expose yourself more and more to it until you don't care.
or just b yorself
im trying to but it always just gets me angry that people would create such content in the first place
Or you know, grow up and stop being an emotionally chaotic and/or unstable child.
See:
You're not being rather fair in saying that disturbing content is something only kids would find shocking. There's nothing at a point in your life that will just tell you that seeing blood is something you'll just get used too.
Oh my god, a hecking mature gamer that does not feel anything.
Give me your autograph.
/thread
You must be at least 18 to post here.
So being an adult is being an emotionless robot to you? It's ironic the image is from Detroit become human.
H games that have female protags.
onahole
Are you fricking gay or something? How can you upset by THAT. It wasn't even a good scene
it was just an example that i had saved. seeing gore is not pleasant.
fiction can still make you feel uncomfortable. Are you just desensitized to this kind of stuff?
>Are you just desensitized to this kind of stuff?
we're on Ganker so. plus nothing in that game comes close to making one feel "uncomfortable"
im sure something in video games at least made you flinch.
it's a video game
Even if it's a video game. If there's been nothing graphic that's even made you think that it wasn't nasty then I think whatever game you played didn't achieve the point of having the graphic content.
>didn't achieve the point of having the graphic content.
said point being
My point is that you just have been desensitized
no I think it's the opposite, you're simply too sensitive
There's nothing wrong with being sensitive to gore I mean it's death it's ugly
This. The things that get posted in this site pretty much make everything else vanilla as frick. I wish I could go back.
Goddamn lighting goes a long way for grafics, I can't image going past this and this was like five years ago
How does it compare with the precursor to Detroid, the OG PS3 demo video?
should honestly be a black guy or rabbi instead.
Ooooh. So this is where the girl is from from all those SFM I’ve seen.
What happened to Curly in Cave Story made me sad, gay, and coping tbh. It’s okay though because he added multiple endings for morons like me.
God I wish that were me
no. it's a video game
Yeah, I dislike when npcs plead for their lives in situations where they have no chance and a real person would feel hopeless
If you don't want to see the androids die in Detroit: Become Human you can choose not to have them die. This is a self-inflicted problem.
As a kid yes, as an adult no.
As a richman in a dystopian future I'd shoot them then frick their still warm robot pussy
Big spoilers for SMT IV Apocalypse
In Apocalypse, the protagonist is revived from death by a god named Dagda, who wants to free humanity from the rule of the gods and deities, and plans to do this by essentially resetting the whole universe to zero, except now humans are alone in it and gods(including himself) are just the rules of nature, without thoughts or desires, but his plan does need for the death of all gods and humans in the current universe.
If you go against him, he decides to revoke your living privileges(since he revived you, he is the one keeping you alive), so the solution is to create a new Dagda(the goddess who birthed him is in the party), except this one agrees with everything the heroes want to do and have it replace the old one, so you do it.
I cant properly explain how fricked up this seems to me, I understand the part of having to create a new lifeline for the protagonist, but to pretend that this new iteration is in any way a person and that I should feel anything positive about it is impossible to me, old Dagda had tens of thousands of years to reach his conclusion and while he was shit at explaning his argument, it had depth and you could understand it, new Dagda is just a doll that just exists to agree with everything whoever created it wanted, it's the ultimate spit on the face on a character who wanted freedom for humanity to be whatever it wants and for him to return to being a fundamental part of nature to be thrown away and replaced with whatever was needed at the moment. When the game ends new Dagda gives a little encouraging speech about how far the MC has come, and I only felt disgust at his words, this was supposed to be a heartfelt ending and here I was being forced to pretend that this automaton wearing the face of someone I respected was my friend.
this is quite something to think about if it was moral to do that to him. The player choice here matters and it sat with ya. good writing.
Why would you ever turn against Dagda?
Total friend death.
Also, I guess I didnt properly explain the theme. The route of the game in which all of this happens, is coloquially known as the Bonds route, the game beats you over the head with the importance of the Power of Friendship and how you can achieve everything if you have friends at your side. Problem is, is that barring the childhood friend/adopted sister of the MC, you have actually, literally known, all the "friends" for less than a week, a player can make their own headcanon about how much an rpg adventure takes, not in Apocalypse, it straight up tells you that every Chapter of the game is one day of the adventure, some of the ""friends" you have met for 5 or 4 days, and New Dagda, you have met for literally hours, he gets summoned in the final dungeon, so even if I was completely on board with the unpersoning and metaphysical erasure of Old Dagda, all the words ring hollow, these people are not my friends, and this Dagda can barely be called an acquantaince, the game fails at delivering its message by putting an unnecesary short timespan and then it tries to beat me over the head on how important these people are to me and me to them, when you literally have the option to treat them all like complete garbage, and the only effect it has is Old Dagda punishing you for being a gay that cant stick to his guns,. You can be a total piece of shit to them and deny their friendship, and the game forces it on you anyways, it's not nearly as fricked up like the previous post but it does make me feel "uncomfortable" how shallow the game was at attempting to introduce the concept of friendship in this story.
Maybe the "hook" or point of showing the shallowness and unearned nature of the Bonds route is to highlight why Persona-lite shit doesn't work in SMT. It certainly seems like its shooting for the same thing only to completely lose its teeth when you think about it.
Just kill your friends, boyo.
With the subject matter? No. I've felt bad or whatever if sad shit's happening, but that's about it. I guess the closest to "uncomfortable" were the unavoidable rape scenes in Holy Knight Ricca, because Ricca is a good girl and didn't deserve it.
Is their anyway to prevent the rape or does it have to happen?
Most of the rape scenes are completely avoidable. Just beat the shit out of everything in your way. There are two that happen as part of the story that you can't avoid. If I recall, there's a third one that you can skip, though you have to do some precise maneuvering to avoid the enemy to do so, which you probably won't on your first playthrough.
persona3 and the have a nice day
Stroggification in Quake 4 was heavy for the time, sad that a sequence like that feels rote now.
I played SubaHibi with my girlfriend, it may not have been the best choice. Looking Glass Insects was an extremely uncomfortable few hours.
Saya no Uta I guess. I don't mind the lovecraftian body horror or even what happened to Yoh, but I do mind graphic depictions of e-girl porn. I'd rather they'd just show them with Saya's real form.
I've heard about this being one of the most disturbing anime games
Not even close.
e-girl rape is one of the worst things I've ever heard about being in a game. Fixed a typo lol.
Even if she's just some demon like children looking like they are being harmed is one thing i just can't get used to seeing in fiction. Call me sensitive or whatever but people dying or being raped is just uncomfortable.
Rape scenes are really pretty standard for visual novels, so the stuff in Saya no Uta really isn't that extreme when compared to the rest of the medium.
Just because rape is commonly depicted doesn't make it somehow more easy to look at. But I understand what you mean there's worse cases of it.
I just said that because you said you heard Saya no Uta is one of the most disturbing anime games. There's a lot more that would frick you up harder if rape makes you uncomfortable, Saya no Uta is fairly mild in my opinion. The Japanese are very good at being mentally disturbed.
Well using that as an example, any rpg, sim, strategy game with dating sim elements, etc where im forced to play as a female makes me uncomfortable.
I'm male. I know what it is to be male. I don't know what it's like to be female. I don't want to know either. Saying that, i don't play any games like that. I don't put my finger in fire and whine when it hurts.
Sounds like you're really sensitive.
I hope you never complain about people caring about representation in media.
Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm fine.
How are you?
How so? I'm not female. It's physically and mentally impossible for me as a male to truly understand what it's like to be a female. I enjoy the immersion of gaming. Having to switch my brain on to attempt to understand, beyond simple empathy, what the frick a woman would do or what id do as a woman makes me uncomfortable. How does that make me really sensitive?
Anon you're being moronic no game is asking you to be a woman. You're making it sound like selecting a game character like idk fricking master cheif you would become master chef irl.
Kek, typed like a typical woman. Kys troon.
So this entire story you made up about being uncomfortable being a girl in video games was to call someone a troon?
Shut up troony groomer
You like that kinda stuff don't you
Its meant to keep normies like you out, its like a safety lock for children
It's not really. It just has some moderately extreme sexual violence and depictions of sex with the very underaged girl, some of which is rape.
So, in a sense it it's disturbing, but not really for any kind of artistic merit, just disturbing for disturbing's sake, like making somebody watch a video of people kicking puppies. Which I think makes it kind of less notable. Anyone could just write 'the most fricked up thing ever' and it's not interesting. Saya is a little interesting for other reasons white room ending best ending but the 'disturbing' stuff honestly is just stupid imo.
Same. I heard one of the characters says a swear word in it.
>mogged by one sound effect
AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
no, im not a gay
She's not even really a e-girl, she's an eldritch horror that the protagonist (and later his neighbor after she sticks a tentacle in his brain) perceives as a e-girl.
Hey, why couldn't Saya fix his brain in such a way that he saw everything as normal but still saw her as a e-girl? Or better yet, saw her as a sexy adult woman?
Was the idea that the brain damage just flipped his disgust/pleased switches so it couldn't get as specific as that?
>why didn't the author change his entire story to fit my moronic sensibilities?
Hey now I'm just wondering if there was a reason I don't remember.
Yeah, you could think of it as a switch. I believe it was the brain surgery he got after the accident that caused this flip. Saya is only able to flip the switch back after she receives information about the human body through Fuminori's DNA aka his potent seed.
Yeah I wouldn't say anybody should change their story to make it so anybody doesn't get offended by what they might see or do in a video game.
>better
>sexy adult woman
You are crazy.
Yes, but only when their subject matter was inclusion of minorities.
Define what you mean by "uncomfortable".
Ive been angered by mechanics or lack thereof, but never the subject matter.
For example, the Half Ogre Island quest chain in Arcanum pissed me off because the quest chain was deliberately a dead end.
Whereas RapeLay was a good, if extremely shallow porn game that never angered me.
lol no because I have the cognitive capacity to differentiate between reality and simulation.
getting birthed in the fallout 3 intro and getting daddy'd up was kind of weird
but the special book and birthday party was cool
and I didn't play solider of fortune(1 or 2 I can't remember) because I was immediately put off by its gun gore and groaning fx
Elden Ring because the whole www was like bro that lore be bussin what story my brain is coomin and i just didnt know wtf was going on.
Not really, unless we're talking being afraid of horror. In which case yes, definitely, I'm a huge pussy when it comes to ghosts and shit
What about ghosts do you find spooky?
I don't know, I can't explain it rationally. I suppose it's an irrational fear, something about it just creeps me out. Doesn't help I've had a few experiences with old places I used to live where I felt like something was around/watching me.
DoL made me think about a lot of shit
Mainly dealing with poverty, and people stuck in really shitty situations
The tapes of Paz and other POWs in GZ didn't ever bother me until I went through a psychotic break. Now shit like that and some times Evil Within triggers PTSD in me
You want to talk about it anon?
i mean, only if you want, dont want to force a story about anyone
I think I may have suddenly developed akathisia or something from some prescription drugs I was on. Basically one day everything was normal and then I had a massive panic attack out of nowhere. 5 hours of being unable to breathe, hands and feet paralyzed, racing heart, the like. I pass out and finally wake up, and the panic attack hadnt stopped. Every nerve is jumpy, every muscle is twitchy. I couldnt sleep, shit, drive, work, eat, watch anything, listen to any music, and hardly play video games without triggering a massive panic attack, like a panic attack to the power of panic attack. If you've ever had one before, you know the mark of a panic attack is an impending sense of doom. A palpable "im about to die oh frick". Have you ever had to sneeze but just won't? I've been on the cusp of sneezing a panic attack for several years and occasionally it tips over. I feel like I'm in mortal danger and about to die 24/7 for years. Anything can set it off.
Ive practiced meditation and yoga for most of my life, and I've gotten to where I maintain stoic equanimity psychologically even while my body is experiencing a panic attack. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with me so they usually just dismiss me as having high anxiety so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry. Fell into heavy drinking to cope until alcoholism almost killed me, got sober and am currently a neet. Some days im good to work, but basically i have to just hold down a job while suffering nerve pain and looming panic attacks any second. Never let the docs put you on any drugs for your head and make sure you eat healthy and get some sun and exercise every day. I can finally meditate again starting late last year and at least there I can find some peace.
that's terrifying, man. it's scary how little we know about the brain and how invisible switches being flicked like that can completely alter our life for the worst.
>so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry
you and a lot of others I've heard. I guess our healthcare system is a lot better how it was from previous centuries, but it doesn't mean it isn't unreliable as hell. I guess you can't change human nature, and that any system is overseen by it.
>Doctors didn't know what was wrong with me so they usually just dismiss me as having high anxiety so I feel betrayed by the healthcare industry.
something to keep in mind, focus on one thing that is wrong, provide clear explanations to your symptoms, and get regular checkups. if you're still having other problems, then work on narrowing them down.
if you have laundry list of things to throw at people, and don't have a decent background of info then you're just setting yourself up for a scatter shot hope of getting treated.
The first game has some mild body horror and gore stuff.
The demo for the second is making me much more uncomfortable, the gore is a lot more detailed, and the heavy breathing of a downed enemy bleeding out is disturbing.
>Motherfricker heavily bleeding on the ground after taking a shotgun to the chest
>Turn my back
>Son of a b***h still shoots me
>Blow her face with another shotgun round
I think that's the bit that drives me nuts. In the story they were all brainwashed by the sleeping god, So In the back of my head I'm wondering if I should try to leave them alive or is it already too late and I should put them all out of their misery.
God I love true post apocalyptic settings.
Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bm3le9s3-A
(You can skip to 5:30 if you'd like.)
I played it because I was amused at the greentexts of how fricked up it is and I regret it deeply
For me, it's the fox e-girl, donkey e-girl snuff, and sleep bunny e-girl rape.
Go on. What game is this?
Paraphore. It's text based, with really shitty gay art you should ignore. You'll sift through a lot of degeneracy for the three scenes I mentioned. I think everyone should try it just for the experience. Fun for the whole family.
mgs2 when the colonel goes bonkers and start pointing out that was a game... but then he started spilling bullshit and the whole uncomfortable feeling was gone
Yeah, that scene in Taimanin Asagi 3 where they have Sakura and Murasaki eating cum from bowls after they've been whipped and raped and then decide to decapitate Murasaki while poor Sakura is still on all fours eating from her cum bowl right next to her. That shit almost killed my boner.
Jesus Christ.
detroit is not a heavy game, it's very bland racism le bad message
why yes, racism is bad, next game should be about how murder and rape are bad too
thank you, very cool game message
>why yes, racism is bad
Why?
because i said so
Well I've never heard of you.
Racism is bad because it doesn't serve a purpose its just hatred for the sake of it. In this case the robots never asked to be robots but they are persecuted anyway. This is a basic narrative that it's surprising you didn't understand it.
>Racism is bad because it doesn't serve a purpose its just hatred for the sake of it.
This isn't correct at all. Everyone is happier and more productive among their own people. What you call racism I call in-group preference, and I think that's a very important quality for preserving cultures.
>In this case the robots never asked to be robots but they are persecuted anyway.
Robots aren't really comparable at all to different human races and cultures because they're tools built by humans in the first place.
Racism is racism because racists want to hurt other races you are being moronic
Races want to hurt other races when they're forced to compete for the same resources, you mean. Which is why everyone should have their own spaces.
You really think Detroit become human should've been about the robots forming a ghetto for themselves lol
Maybe. Why not? Logically, robots can never be equal to humans. They're not the same. Why shouldn't they have their own country made by and for robots, all about catering to their wants and needs?
Becoming a human to you then is establishing yourself above other humans.
No, not at all. It's about establishing yourself as your own entity which can determine its own future. How did you get that from my post?
You can establish yourself after killing everybody is what I think you're trying to say
I would not like it if people were racist towards me. So I think being racist is bad, and am not racist towards other people.
If you were to be isekai'd into a world of lizard people, would you expect them to treat you like their own family?
No, not at all. Why do you keep imagining things I didn't say? Racial tensions only happen when two groups have to compete for the same resources. Violence comes from forcing different races together. If everyone has their own space and their own resources then there's no racial conflict.
Don't suddenly play pretend and act like everything would suddenly go hunky l dory if you tried to put people in camps
I'm not saying people should be put in camps, though. I'm saying everyone should have their own state. Why do you keep trying to put words in my mouth? I don't want anyone to be killed or hurt. I think cultures are very, very precious and can never be replaced when they're gone. Which is why I think it's important to recognize racial sovereignty for all peoples.
Yeah and after this dream scenario where everybody plays along and is properly segregated we'll just murder anybody who tries to congregate with the other races again.
No, I don't think that's right at all. There's nothing wrong with cooperation or mingling, it's just that one race shouldn't expect anything from another race. Nobody should have the right to another group's property or the fruits of their labor.
Racists don't like that other races exist
How hard is it for you to understand that
You have a very childish understanding of 'racism' which makes you shove racial supremacy and genocide under the same umbrella as being rude to black people. I'm what you'd consider a racist, but I want to preserve other races.
Who cares what you consider yourself you guys are maniacs
But you're the ones creating endless amounts of pointless violence because you insist on shoving so many groups of different people with different wants, needs, and values into the same spaces to compete for scarce resources. Nobody would want to kill black people if the black people weren't in their spaces and taking their money, you know? They wouldn't even think about black people at all. People like you create that resentment because you want to deny black people their heritage.
There we go there's the crazy. I know you were holding back that entire conversation.
nice someone who basically thinks like i do
i like earth having multiple races and cultures, it's how i thought the world operated when i was a kid (early 90s)
cultures and races were so fascinating to me. it sucks with a global world to see them eviscerated. i don't want them gone but i dont think they all belong together
Yeah, if you mash everyone together, everyone becomes the same, the things that make all these races and cultures unique vanishes. I don't want the whole world to be a Walmart parking lot. I study mythology so this kind of stuff is important to me.
That guy doesn't want to preserve races because of his fascination in them. Racists who are okay with other races existing want them to exist as a subclass of people whom it is alright to exploit. Southern slave owners were essentially racist by definition, but they would fricking hate it if black people didn't exist for them to exploit.
What you're talking about still exists, you're just being a doomer stuck in right wing echo chambers.
>That guy doesn't want to preserve races because of his fascination in them.
Yes I do.
>Racists who are okay with other races existing want them to exist as a subclass of people whom it is alright to exploit.
Not at all. I don't think anyone should get to exploit anyone else.
It seems like you just want to call me a liar because you have a very childish worldview and you can't accept that the lie you were fed about racists being evil psychopaths who hate people for no reason is indeed a lie. I mean everything I said with 100% honesty.
Where's the crazy? That posts goes in reverse, too. White people shouldn't be in Africa taking things from blacks either.
Anon assumes all blacks are bloodthirsty monsters how is that not crazy
>Anon assumes all blacks are bloodthirsty monsters
No, I did not. You keep imagining things that weren't said at all. Are you projecting a little, maybe?
>if you make multiple groups compete for resources then they will ally along racial lines and there will be violence
>OH SO BLACK PEOPLE ARE JUST INSANE VIOLENCE MONSTERS THAT RAPE AND KILL HUH IS THAT IT
Yeah that's what you think. You're a racist
I think (know) that many African peoples have matriarchal cultures which handle wrongdoing through elder-enforced rulings and physical punishment, which you can personally see continues even among American-born blacks if you live among them (as I have, because my wife is black). This isn't a problem by itself, but it's a problem when they're mashed into spaces with racial groups that work very differently. That's where racial tension comes from.
You deny Africans their heritage and insist there's nothing unique about them and that they need to be 'fixed' through your enlightened western standards. Because you're a childish person who places no value on any culture but American corporate culture.
Racial tension comes from racists
This is like saying
>water comes from rain
Get rid of rain you still have water around
Get rid of racists. Racism doesn't exist anymore
Racism will exist as long as you insist on forcing different groups to share the same resources, because racism is just in-group preference. What you're actually suggesting is to pick off each race one by one. You're throwing two hungry dogs into a small cage with a steak in the middle and then saying we should shoot the one who goes for the meat first because he's denying the other dog equality.
No it wouldn't because then it would just be normal people living together
You know it would be entirely possible to have a multiracial group of people other another group based on things that aren't race.
In large numbers it will always reduce to race. Culture doesn't spawn from nothing, it's downstream from race. Your genetics determine your thought patterns, how you perceive things, and what's important to you. There's nothing more fundamental than race. That's not to say that people of different races can't get along or work together toward common goals. But when push comes to shove, it will reduce to race.
Let's say some shit goes down and the electric grid collapses and there's no more food coming into the Walmart. You get along with your neighbor, you've always been on friendly terms, they've watched your house while you went on holiday, you've fed their dogs while they went out on a date, etc. Well, now there's no food. But a deer just wandered into the street between your houses, and you're hungry. Only one of you gets to eat. You're not going to let your family starve for them. At least, no healthy person would. That's just nature.
>being a racist is cool because under these other extreme situations I'm certainly not under shit goes to shit
Not actually her story
I was just uncomfortable that I wasted so much time on something so boring just because somebody wanted to write a story about a 15yo wanting to have sex with their 30yo coolguy self-insert out of pity.
the child rape stuff in LISA made me pretty uncomfortable
last time I even thought more than a second about my options was in BG3 during the creche, and that was less about being uncomfortable and more abot "Laezel is gonna hate this"
10 years ago when the subject matter in MGSV was "frick your god damn teeth"
Not that one, I shot that toaster in the head ez.
In GTA:Liberty City Stories,there is a mission where you Blow up a large neighbourhood and basically recreate 9/11. And iz was released only 5 years after the acual attack. After that you can walk through that area and it looks like Ground Zero. I am not even American but it felt quite disturbing.
I think FF7 Remake did that pretty well with its beginning
>blow up the Mako reactor, Barret gives his big speech, everyone goes "GO AVALANCHE"
>get to walk around and see the absolute state of the plate
if you play it for the first time you probably go "why the frick did we do that"
She should be wearing safety glasses if she's going to play paintball, what if that had hit her in the eye?
In one of the murder mysteries in Rain Code, you solve the case of the murder of a high school student, which was committed by a group of three friends. The victim had murdered their friend in cold blood a year previously due to jealousy. Solving the case causes your ally, a shinigami, to reap their souls and kill all three perpetrators. "An eye for an eye" is how every chapter of the game is solved. I don't know why, but just that case fricked with my head and I stopped playing for a day or two. Those three teenagers only killed because the corrupt cops covered up their friend's murder as a suicide. Killing them didn't feel like justice, and having a character who is the MC's "friend" end their lives directly due to my actions as the player made me feel like shit. Still loved the game and dark themes. I don't know why a fricking anime game of all things got to me so deeply.
Sayori route on DDLC, that shit was genuinely disturbing with the distorted theme song. All the other routes are memes but Sayori's is fricked up because it can actually happen.
I thought the Yuri route was good. Not the parts about her just being a psycho yandere type, that was a bit goofy. But the self-harm angle, and the sheer length of the corpse segment.
The part where you sit there and stare at her corpse for days was the only good part about DDLC.
I assume you just mean that in a weird/shitposting way.
But still false:
>I assume you just mean that in a weird/shitposting way.
No I was being completely sincere.
it was only a kamski jest.
yeah, butchering mudokens to make treats
I was 6 at the time so I doubt it has the same impact today
Do you think he fricked the dead android when you left?
>dead
I myself used my ona one last time before throwing it out.
Disco Elysium has a lot of self-loathing stuff that hit far too close to home far too often. Though it's ultimately uplifting because you can work through it. There were definitely times where I stopped playing and looked out the window for a while.
The Frenzied Flame ending of Elden Ring (and finding the Three Fingers) was particularly disturbing to me. Any sort of well delivered apocalyptic scenario that actually has a sense of finality can get under my skin. Devil Man has done similar.
Some of the human trafficking stuff in Cyberpunk 2077 was pretty stomach churning too. Most of it is in the shards so you can skim past most of it (bar Evlyn) but if you actually stop and do some detective work, it's dark as frick. Made me think of how often that happens IRL in large cities.
It winds up going to silly places, but good chunks of Metal Gear Solid V were disturbing when you knew what they were referencing IRL. Just all of the torture and POW stuff. And the medical experiments in Africa. Walking around "The Devil's House" was fricked, thinking that there are/were people out there subjected to similar kinds of experiments, either in Africa in the Cold War era, or further back in Unit 731 and other WWII camps.