Has the golden age of superhero games passed us by?
I feel like with superhero movies dying superhero games will quickly follow.
Has the golden age of superhero games passed us by?
Has the golden age of superhero games passed us by?
I feel like with superhero movies dying superhero games will quickly follow.
midnight suns came out (didn't play it lol. no one did)
spiderman 2 and wolverine will be 7/10s
suicide skwad kill da justice leeg will be a 4/10
maybe there will be another underwhelming fighting game by netherrealms. i don't see capcom working with disney again.
bamham is terribly overrated btw.
>super hero games
>golden age
>People b***hed for years about Batman combat
>Now every game is a Souls n Roll.
I honestly don't get why people hated the Arkham combat
On higher difficulties the combat feels so fricking good as combos and gadgets and parrying really matter.
I fricking miss how fluid and fast Arkham combat felt when compared to the slow ass combat of most games coming out today.
Because they all played on easy/normal and never did the challenges, which are legit hard and force you to perfect the combat.
I frankly think you aren't playing the Arkham series right if you aren't playing on the hardest difficulty
because the enemies are damage sponges and eventually the combat just becomes simon says with extra steps
>Damage sponges
>Every 5 hits you get an instant kill
Did we play the same games
At this point any 1vX based combat with less depth than SIFU isn't worth my time.
try and watch ppl play that game, they literally can't wrap their heads around the gameplay.
even woolieVS- a supposed ex gametester who loves figthing games looks like a complete moron gaygoli butterhands trying to do arkham combat.
They really should have added rankings after each fight to encourage players to not just mash one button the entire time
arkham combat is prime example of why gamers actually need their hand held for the first 1/3rd of the game and told how to play the game in excruciating almost torturous detail.
even supposed veterans of games just resort to button mashing instead of engaging with the system.
You're right about that. You'd think each fight taking 20 years when you button mash your way through would be a giveaway that's not how you're meant to play.
There's a damn combo counter that increases damage, lets you do finishers, and gives you more XP for variety at the end of a fight
How can anyone not notice ALL of those
or there literally being mini animations for taking out enemies in quick succession, guess the game actively needs to go "wrong! you moron! fricking use the gadgets,combos and the environment! YOU ARE BATMAN NOT A STREET THUG" before ppl will figure that out.
Or you could just make a videogame that isn't shit where your inputs actually matter. I couldn't be happier your studio is dying, moron.
>I honestly don't get why people hated the Arkham combat.
It's very basic and simplistic and the higher difficulties don't really change much aside from removing HUD elements and punishing you more for your mistakes.
It doesn't change things in any meaningful capacity and if you're timing critical strikes you have invincibility frames on demand in a finisher anyway as a get out of jail free card.
I don't get why people loathe it either, it's serviceable but that's about it. If you compare it to proper action games like Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry it falls completely flat by comparison.
Name 20 games where higher difficulties significantly change the gameplay
It's true for something as basic as Kingdom Hearts which is a children's game where mashing X is no longer sufficient and you need to start dodging, baiting out enemy attacks and space your own properly.
In Batman you just do the same thing as on the other difficulties but you're afforded fewer mistakes and crutches are disabled.
Mashing X is also no longer sufficient at higher difficulties in Bam Ham. Thanks for conceding
>ESL
>Has the golden age of superhero games passed us by?
Yeah, before that pile of shit happened.
>Is that... combat that requires timing and rhythm? AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE SAVE ME CAPED CRUSADER
>Is that a piece of rubble that fell one me? AIIIIIEEEE SAVE ME CATWOMAN
I cant put into words how mad i am that every game has souls combat these days
i prefer Simon Says Roll simulator
Not defending souls here, but Bamham combat sucks for one-on-one fights.
Yes Origins Deathstroke wasn't good
origins was made by a different studio and is universally panned by everyone except morons.
Just because hack devs poorly copy Arkham's combat doesn't mean it's unenjoyable. It's the same type of thinking with how FPS games copied Halo's two-weapon/melee/grenade system. Blame unoriginal devs, not the source where it came from.
wait, people hated Arkham combat? I can see it having a few flaws, but hating it?
And before batman everything was a god of war clone. The entire entertainment business is just copy pasting and chasing trends
They're about equal in mechanical depth. Highly accessible to casual audiences. People just prefer the "souls" style of combat because people have memed it into being challenging even though you can approach every fight the exact same way, granted that's also a problem with Bamham combat.
Where have you been for the last few years? Every superhero game that's not Batman or Spiderman flops.
I'm rewatching Batman 1989 and it's so fricking kino. Not relevant but I just wanted to sell somebody
>I'm rewatching Batman 1989 and it's so fricking kino
Always was
Jack Nicholson will always be my favorite Joker. Pure kino.
I think Squeenix learned their lesson about monetization with the Avengers game hence why the GotG game was better, but CD and Eidos has since been sold to Embracer so it feels like the non-spooderman Marvel stuff is a lost cause too.
this one was surprisingly very good. granted i was drunk for the entire 2 days playing it but it was very fun.
in any of the arkham games, do any of the robin/nighthawk do anything ever? i recall hearing that they actually do in arkham knight, but i stopped playing it because i was bored. arkham city and asylum wer eboth cool though.
Robin already shows up in City and is the main character of the post-game story DLC. He is also in the main plot of Knight until Batman locks him up for reasons. Both Robin and Nightwing are playable in Knight DLCs
The big names like Batman and Spider-Man will keep selling like they've always done, but yes making big movies and games about some C-list characters is over. Suicide Squad will flop incredibly hard.
I don't know why they dropped this series so quickly. There's so many other Batman stories they could have adapted into the Arkham format, there could have easily been like 8 more games.
Thank gods they had stopped now, before they would have a chance to ruin it. They kept doubling down on "collect 100 Riddlers", just imagine, what it would be 8 games later.
>I don't know why they dropped this series so quickly. There's so many other Batman stories they could have adapted into the Arkham format, there could have easily been like 8 more games.
Literally because WB is moronic and WB Montreal is a trash studio who can't do anything right.
The original plan was that Rocksteady wanted to make a Superman game after Knight and Montreal was going to make a Suicide Squad game. Montreal being a shit studio couldn't get the SS game working so Rocksteady literally had to take over their shit project and Montreal was told to make a new Arkham game with Damian Wayne instead since that's already blueprinted and proven. Then WB changed their minds again and told Rocksteady and Montreal that all games need to be Destiny GAAS shit now since that's what sells. So the new Arkham game got cancelled and turned into Gotham Knights instead.
Basically Rocksteady was a great studio that got fricked over because everyone around them were incompetent morons.
the series ended perfectly with Knight.
Plus with the death of Kevin Conroy I wouldn't want another Batman game.
It wouldn't feel special anymore. Kevin was the voice of Batman and nothing will change that.
We already had Roger Craig Smith voicing Batman in Origins.
It still had so much potential. They could have gone really crazy and branched out into Elseworlds. Imagine a Gotham By Gaslight or Dark Knight of the Round Table game in Arkham-style.
>We already had Roger Craig Smith voicing Batman in Origins.
And he sucked. What's your point?
>It wouldn't feel special anymore. Kevin was the voice of Batman and nothing will change that.
just use AI and re-use his voice
It was getting stale. combat and detectivemode barely have any depth and even predator mode, the strongest element of the games by far, once you played through the arkham city challenge rooms, what else is there really to do with it?
i have a feeling they REALLY wanted to do a catwoman spin off-considering the amount of dlc content they had for her - but then games industry went full on woke and having sexy women in games became problematic.
There's that wolverine game that Sony teased once.
That's pretty much it.
>Superhero games are done
>We only got Batman, Spider-Man, and Sniktbub
Where are my other X-Men?
>Where are my other X-Men?
X-men has been Wolverine and his Amazing Friends for like 30 years now, it's over.
Peak kino is yet to come until we get a high budget Deadpool or The Boys vidya adaptation.
>The Boys
Who do you even want to play as in The Boys? Homelander fighting off suped up terrorists that he created?
Would be kino, Homelander going rogue and getting ganged on by all the rest of the gays would be fun as frick. Just a full modern city with tons of destruction and gore where you as Homelander splatter everyone.
Isn't that one Deadpool game by Highmoon half-decent?
It's pretty fun, I liked it personally. Would be great to get a modern high budget one considering how successful his movies were.
>Peak kino is yet to come until we get a high budget Deadpool
The Deadpool game is literally one of the most expensive games ever made, had a 100 million dollar budget kek., pretty sure that game was pure money laundering.
Wtf there's no fricking way lmao, it felt like a budget AA game, and it felt like there was no marketing for it. Did they just yoink the money?
>Wtf there's no fricking way lmao, it felt like a budget AA game, and it felt like there was no marketing for it. Did they just yoink the money?
I really have no idea, the 100 million number comes from a Gamespot's most expensive games ever. It was published by Activision which does have a "go big or go home" mentality to games, also the studio High Moon made those Transformers games and the game flopped so badly they became a Call of Duty support studio.
Aren't Monolith making a Wonder Woman game?
Yeah. I'm concerned that they haven't announced who/what is the Nemesis race that WW will be shaming and whipping though. Hopefully it's other Amazonians
>Hopefully it's other Amazonians
>I'll show you the boss of this island
Please god Monlith make it good.
No fricking way it will be even passable.
>muh suprXena with sword and shield
>muh demigod
Dead character
it will probably be a trainwreck with a hideous Wonder Woman who is "discovering herself" like the modern Tomb Raider
100%
and will be based on the shit that no fan ever asked for
Asylum was way better than city and knight. I'm sick of those saying otherwise.
FACT
Always was. Reminds me of the Riddick game.
>midnight suns came out (didn't play it lol. no one did)
massive shame 2bh because it's a really good game, I enjoyed it
bam a ham games are shit
they introduced the worst combat in any game ever and popularized the detective vision garbage.
Frick them all they are a slog to play
SOON
please be good
So how are they gonna get around the fact that the symbiote is the big new gameplay mechanic in this game for Peter and Venom is the villain? We're just gonna lose out on a big new mechanic by the end?
peter dies and miles will inherit it and will have the ability to tame it because he can, always could. future dlcs will have miles doing his own thang
they will tie it into the movie series maybe
nanomachines son
except unironically, the miles morales game introduced the programmable matter which will just do all the symbiote moves once it's gone
I will buy a PS5 if they make the swinging more involved like spiderman 2 ps2. Just make it an option so the people that want a simpler time still can. Then everyone's happy.
superman legacy will either give us the definitive superman game if it succeeds or thrust us into another dark age of superhero mobile games by giving us marvel snap 2 and more card games
Can't believe WB killed rocksteady with a shitty mtx game when they should have been the ones making hogwarts legacy
you're just seeing the overall problems of the industry manifest in the superhero genre. games take way too long to make, and development has become more and more concentrated around a small number of projects.
Is Knight playable now on PC? I really liked Asylum and City.
The age of superhero movies is ending, but vidya movies are now on the rise. Therefore, superhero games will be replaced by game games. It is only a matter of time until Sonic: The Movie: The Game is released.
The Golden age of vidya is over, it's not just superhero games that are dying it's the entire industry, the lack of hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits killed this industry
>the lack of hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits killed this industry
This.
Rule of cool >>>>>>>> muh realism
And coolness cannot exist without beauty and sex appeal
Classic story about the hero saving the princess from the evil dragon requires initial motivation for the hero and, preferably, reward after the process. By default, princess is a reward. But when princess have no good appearance (is ugly), when also her temper is awful, when she is unlikable on every level including physical - hero gets somewhat disappointed - what if princess was the monster all along? And videogames, in most cases, put player in the role of the hero - and modern videogames usually give princesses-monsters so disgusting in every of internal and external features, that the hero-player just rightfully don't want this adventure anymore. And it would be somewhat okay, if princess would just be replaced by treasure/spirit of friendship/kingdom/put-any-valuable-thing-here. But the pincess-monster is a mandatory part. All because some asshomosexuals want to appeal to "wider audience" by removing everything, that is attractive only to the main audience.
well said
Shape > size
shape and size > the rest
cope>seethe
>games have been getting steadily worse since the early 2000s
>every couple of years, underageb&s declare that vidya coincidentally happened to peak when they were kids
they are objectively shit now
>steadily worse
i'd argue AAA is completely in the shitter and we all just collectively holding our breaths waiting for the industry to collapse and shift to mobile gacha gaming only.
superheroes are gay
Is six dollarydoos the lowest this game will get before it is delisted in September?
I hope not. They should pay you a lot more than 6 dollars to play this shit
new wonder woman game supposedly has nemesis system - only superhero game i'm excited for
Is Arkham Knight worth trying again? I played on release (I think rented from Redbox) and got to the first Bat-Tank part and just gave up, it was so incredibly distasteful that I couldn't stomach the entire game knowing I'd have to do more of those later. That was years ago though, is it worth powering through the forced vehicle sections?
bat tank is fine honestly
contrarian morons looking for (you)s i will oblige
you can download a cheat to make bat tank insta kill with the cannon. makes the tank sections much more bearable and actually fun
>giving up on the first bat-tanks section
That is so incredibly petty, my god. It was your FIRST time playing it, dude.
>until recently the Arkham trilogy was literally the only capeshit game worth mentioning
>now spiderman has one (1) game worth a shit
>that's all
>"golden age of superhero games"
???
Superhero games were almost entirely shovelware for decades.
If they made a Golden Age Superman game with Red Faction: Guerrilla-tier destruction physics I'd buy it in a heartbeat, graphics be damned