>Hasbro sales dip
>release more Magic sets!
How much longer can wizards keep this up?
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>Hasbro sales dip. >release more Magic sets!
>Hasbro sales dip
>release more Magic sets!
How much longer can wizards keep this up?
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Will Hali Pottel be asian? Rob-in-Hood a black thief?
>Rob-in-Hood a black thief?
underrated
Oh I would fricking KILL for a Harry Potter set, just to see all the twitter and youtube trannies seething
Why stop now when you can always double down and hope for the best! More crossovers! More "premium" products! The obvious reason why there was a slump in sales is because people didn't have MORE products to buy!
truly the fortnite of tabletop card games.
i can't wait for hasbro to die.
what you morons never seem to realize is this is their sales strategy and has been for years now.
they WANT to ruin the company. running a company into the ground and milking every last drop of profit is far more lucrative in the short-term than the long con of putting effort and time into your brand.
Yeah, and the worst part is that the people doing this shit will exit the company with a fat bonus and leave the mess for some other poor schmuck to try and squeeze more money out of it. Rinse and repeat until the company is dead.
CEOS literally do not give a frick if their company fails. Companies only hire CEOS based on job history and if they have a choice between
>genuinely constructive and successful man
>person who has """experience""" being a CEO
then they're going to pick from the same well that they always have. There are no consequence for being a bad CEO you can only fail upwards.
Hypothetical question: what do you think would happen to MtG if Hasbro+WotC went totally bankrupt, shut down forever? It's partially a legal question since the copyrights/intellectual properties would probably be liquidated to pay off debts or something and I have no idea how any of that works.
But just suppose that the "business" of Magic: The Gathering becomes dead forever, somehow. Would players start creating new sets in some organized "semiofficial" capacity, you think?
We’d probably see a bunch of MtG clones appear after a few years
People would still play unofficial tournaments and there are enough cards to keep LGS afloat for a good 2-5 years.
But the meta and bans would be defined at a local level and eventual the cards would be used just for the art.
But way more likely another company like Asmodee picks it up and runs it into the ground again. And that happens until the brand is worthless and no one is buying, then it’s put in the IP vault.
>what do you think would happen to MtG if Hasbro+WotC went totally bankrupt, shut down forever
Someone would buy the rights.
It'd be up to Hasbro/WotC to decide how to sell those right, right? As in, one company could buy Transformers, one could buy Monopoly, one could buy MtG, etc etc... or does everything the company have need to be bought in one big package?
I think so. I remember seeing some numbers like 7% for WotC and 14% for the rest of Hasbro. But I don't have any context for what those mean exactly- 7% of WotC could still be larger than 14% of the rest of Hasbro since WotC was raking in more cash in absolute terms.
>It'd be up to Hasbro/WotC to decide how to sell those right, right? As in, one company could buy Transformers, one could buy Monopoly, one could buy MtG, etc etc... or does everything the company have need to be bought in one big package?
It's actually up to the liquidator.
If the company thinks they get more bundling it, they bundle it.
Usually when that happens bidders, who definitely haven't negotiated with each other before hand, refuse to bid, forcing the company to split the products and then the bidders all buy what they want with minimal competition from each other.
>Would players start creating new sets in some organized "semiofficial" capacity
People have already been making custom cards and sets for over a decade (see CCG channel for plenty of sets). If MtG suddenly died there are plenty of people willing to take a crack at it.
As for the organized part, the people making proxies already count. Imagine if they could suddenly make money this way legally. (Whether or not that would be good for the game is a different discussion).
>Shrek and Dracula vs Spiderman
We just need to see an Into The Spiderverse crossover and the floodgates will open even further.
Could always get OCTGN or wieneratrice and play for free online too if you want to keep up w/the meta.
The problem is with managers and directors is they think there is still room and ressources left. Since it is so popular and old the paypigs will always be there and always buy stuff.
I think Hasbro believes in a future global recession and they want to get peopke's disposible income while they still can. Then, when the last few idiots realize MTG is a shitty funkopop game full of stale overmonitized 80's toy brands, it won't matter that they don't have money anymore and they can align their rescue of the game's image with a recovering economy.
Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit. Even if thats whats going on, I doubt the plan will work.
Buying and selling stocks should be illegal. If stock market didn't exist, none of this would have ever happened. Only way to gain control of a company should be inheriting it from your dying father, as he inherited it before you. No buying or selling allowed, ever.
Just make it so the only shareholders who are allowed to vote on a company's board of directors are the ones who bought their stock directly from the company (ie the actual investors). Anybody else can collect dividends and such but gets zero input of any kind into how the company is run.
There's a lot of shit that should be illegal
The bad thing is that stocks really do help small companies.
The problem is that managing stocks is now a business in and of itself, when stocks should be a way for people to invest in projects and companies that they believe in
Also that Supreme Court decision that said increasing the pay for your employees without simultaneously increasing dividends for your shareholders is illegal needs to get overturned.
Also everyone involved in the push during the 70s that said "The real way to make money isn't a good product, but to grind your employees into dust and pay yourself more" needs to have their families killed for their crimes.
That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The larger issue isn't ownership, but management. There are a lot of fricked incentives there.
I agree. I have the opinion, inflation is caused because of stocks. (And loans)
Because investors expect the company to grow and give them dividends. So the company needs to create wealth and generate money making it more expensive each time.
Did anyone even buy that shitty lotr set? There's a reason Yugioh has been getting record numbers the past couple years.
I'm sure the speculators did. It's going to be fun to watch when the bubble pops.
it is, apparently, the highest selling set of all time.
What is Michonne from? Blade?
I was actually pretty excited for those 40k Commander decks but the more I think about it the more I just wish none of this happened. Even the D&D crossover sets are too much.
The Walking Dead.
>We're losing money because we had to pay royalty costs!
>Investors think about getting spooked
>We're going to be paying twice as many royalty costs in the future!
>Investors are reassured
>We took a loan to cover royalty costs so the books say we spent nothing or actually got paid to do it
>Pay back a loan? That's whoever is CEO three quarters from now's problem.
Isn't the Wizards MtG side of things only slightly underperforming, and it's the TV and Film side of things that Hasbro's losing the real money on? Like, everything is being mishandled by them right now for sure, but the dumpsterfire that is Magic the Gathering is much smaller and controlled than the ragining inferno that is Hasbro's mass media side of things.
Cancelling the year of Drizzt after already hiring Bramblehill Cottagethatch and paying for loads of writers and half finished works really cucked them.
Weird though: I wonder if this is why they included the One Ring thing in the same set as Black Aragorn.
>"See, people fricking LOVE black Aragorn!"
>"They're buying the shit out of this set!"
Black Aragorn was just an outrage marketing plot.
They will never have One Ring hype again.
Honestly it's hard not to think of social engineering when you see how insistent the entertainment industry is on showing you a black man with a white woman. It's just so on the nose it feels like a psyop. I saw a music video the other day and there were 20 dancers around the singer who's petite, pale and blonde. Who picks up the girl and spins her around? The one Black person, of course! How can you not think it's a psyop?
I'm not sure if psyop is quite the term, but you're right. It absolutely is social engineering, zero speculation needed. You can get it from the horse's mouth if you want, they have proudly stated their intentions and methods for decades. They want you and your culture destroyed. People don't see it because they're a boiling frog. Our people used to hold virtues in common that today are long forgotten; things as simple as "junk food" or "the boob tube." Now it's acceptable and encouraged to be a prostitute rather than be married with children. The change came swiftly but no one remembers the world before. We will see terrible things in our lives.
>We will see terrible things in our lives.
Not if I kill myself first (ironically I have to deliver this with a gif of a black man)
Sis, just say you like black dick. Who cares if you get judged by randos? Be yourself girl
You will die frightened and alone.
>NOBODY WILL DATE ME BECAUSE I'M A WORTHLESS KEK, IT MUST BE TELEVISION'S FAULT
You are seething and projecting. Nobody will thank you with pussy just because you're a simping cuck. Fricking stop before you troon out
religion is kind of dead. people need something new to believe in to make them feel like good people. Currently that syndrome is pity for minorities and angst against previous established morals like religion and family. The other option is to make money your new God and the other half of people are doing that. It will all be passe at some point.
The paypigs' pockets will run dry eventually, so unless they start trying to make things for normal customers they're probably fricked fairly soon
>the success of last years lotr sets
because 2 of the most busted cards released since last set because they've stopped balancing cards were in it, on top of that stupid one ring shit
Enjoy hunting down the 1 of 1 Infinity Gems to assemble the 1 of 1 Infinity Gauntlet.
So you admit mtg drones don't care about the flavor or art, and will buy anything that has overpowered cards in it. Sounds like printing busted UB sets is the way to go then. Normies will buy for IPs, addicts will buy for power level. Win-win.
The One Ring is busted
what’s the other one? bowmasters?
Bowmasters has unseated Dark Confidant as the best black 2-drop creature. The land cyclers (Lorien Revealed especially) are also really strong. Delighted Halfling is probably another "busted" card because of how many legends there are now that having 2 toughness and uncounterable is better than Noble Hierarch in a lot of decks.
That's about it, though. I think the land cyclers are all good designs and do something new. It's not like a 5 mana draw 3 made anything obsolete. The impact TOR and Bowmasters had is bullshit, though. TOR is like Time Warp with Ancestral Recall attached to it. I'm dumbfounded as to how Bowmasters made it out of R&D. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since the printings of Murktide Regent, Ragavan, and Minsc & Boo.
Oh hey, a strictly better Quirion Dryad that gives virtual draw for (2) and triggers itself. Did it even touch the meta? Looks like it went for almost 10 bucks at one point.
uhhhh HECK YEAH???? WHERE IS MAH BABY YODA SET???? NOW THAT IS THE WAY!
>Sell all mtg cards except land cards.
>buy a printer, paper, inks
>print entire Ice Age set, make a cube.
>Sleeve them all up
>invite friends over for cube drafts
>endless fun for free
printers are a scam in itself.
Not if you buy third party toner.
>How much longer can wizards keep this up?
as long as people bought them
My only hope is that the Rick & Morty set is followed by a Morbius set.
Yes. The worse it gets, the funnier it is to me. I hope it devolves into complete shlock like Shrek and Dracula vs Spiderman fighting over Ravnica.
i started playing sorcery because the cards arent baseded out
I got into MTG with the D&D Sets, but started playing when Phyrexia was released last year. Went to Friday Night Magic every other week and it was fun, but the pace at which new sets are being released including the power creep in that short time, turned me away from playing. I'm not buying any new sets anymore. I'll just keep playing the same commander and standard sets I have with friends that do the same.
how i felt about that dragonball card game when that came out. sets came out so fast and power crept so insanely hard that i didn't end up playing for long. was kind of a shame as the game itself seemed decent.