actually, it was planned for Gen 4, but they cut it when they changed Route 213 from a desert to a beach early on in development
this is also why hippopotas/gible were shoved into random caves and skorupi was shoved into the great marsh
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Route 213
In what world would that route ever make sense s a desert?
11 months ago
Anonymous
The world where they keep the sandstorms from the February 17th, 2006 build.
smart answer: pokemon with natural abilities which may recall or be reminiscent of a human work (example: birds are homosexual dancers so quaquaval kind of reminds of a brazilian dancer)
moron answer: pokemon with a job
11 months ago
Anonymous
seconding the first explanation here
basically Pokémon themed around real-life human jobs or occupations
eg Cinderace plays soccer, Hitmonchan is a boxer, Meowscarada is a magician
They have no depth beyond that theming and are often designed to invoke the attire that humans with those jobs wear or the tools that they use: Inteleon has massive sausage fingers to make them look more like guns and please the yaoi crowd, probably, Sawk wears a literal karate gi, Rhyperior is covered in plates made to look like a construction helmet and vest.
They’ve always been a thing to some extent, but I personally feel they’ve gotten more and more blatant from gen 7 on to the point where they’re detrimental to suspension of disbelief and make the design look worse. If Incineroar was to be a wrestler, they could’ve just left it at the mask pattern instead of also putting it on two feet, giving it a ripped shirt and a literal belt of fire to resemble championship prizes, AND a Z-move with it doing a wrestling pose.
It’s also incredibly hard to reconcile it with its first stage, Litten, due to there being almost no foreshadowing and 0 connection between “grumpy cat” and “heel wrestler” outside of maybe having a bad attitude (which the latter fakes while the former is genuine about).
Krookodile is a very light example, in that it takes less from a literal job and more a human personality. Its design and portrayal is meant to invoke a criminal, and it seems to be a species-wide thing where every single member eventually grows up to be wicked and brutal. It’s got boots, it’s got sunglasses, it has a trademark evil grin- but they’re hardly very prominent and don’t hinder the animalistic origins it came from.
It’s alright tbh, not its fault that Dark sort of forces human personalities onto its members to some extent due to being the literal “evil” type.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> detrimental to suspension of disbelief
Literally never a thing in this series if you're hinging it off of the believability of these monsters (read: not animals) being something that you could find in the wild. Every Machamp and Machoke having belts, every Hypno having a string pendulum, every Kadabra and Alakazam having spoons, every Cubone having the skull of it's mom etc. already completely shattered any kind of irl analogue Pokemon as a whole could have.
The only reason it'd bother you now whereas it didn't before (or, at least, it bothers you more now) is because you like the designs less, not because it's gotten any more egregious in terms of fricking with the world.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yet Cubone or Kadabra living as animals in the wild is more believable than Cinderace or Sawk.
Hell even Machamp has a way more animalistic demeanor than new gens Main-character mons.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yet Cubone or Kadabra living as animals in the wild is more believable than Cinderace or Sawk.
No, not really. A species of animal in which every member adorns itself with the skulls of it's parent is patently ridiculous and entirely unbelievable if you know a lick about biology. A species in the wild in which every member not only wields a blatantly man-made utensil as weapons, but knows how to use it to bolster it's abilities is also complete hogwash given that level of intelligence would imply that they should be a species that exercises human-level dominance over the world they inhabit.
No, you're either blinded by nostalgia or are masking your dislike of newer humanoids with some flimsy reasoning that falls apart with the slightest thought.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>A species of animal in which every member adorns itself with the skulls of it's parent is patently ridiculous and entirely unbelievable if you know a lick about biology.
It's frustrating because there's a lot of things about Cubone and Marowak that make sense on their own, but not when you mash them all together into one organism. >We have plenty of semelparous species, where one or both of the parents die immediately after mating and/or giving birth. Salmon, octopuses, a few families of insects... but those are all r-selected species, and Cubone is clearly k-selected. >We have a few species that can use tools besides humans. Great apes, a few species of monkeys, crows, and sea otters have all entered the Stone Age. Some sort of ape-like creature using a large bone as a primitive bludgeon isn't a farfetched idea. >An animal adapted to THROWING objects to hunt prey is a little more out there... but it's happened. Once.
I think the closest you can get to Cubone is some sort of primitive, hominid-like species that evolved from cynodonts, that lives in a hot savannah-like environment and becomes hairless to adapt, that lives in groups, and hunts larger animals with bones in hunting parties. If they're intelligent enough to develop culture, I can even see them wearing the skulls of their kills as trophies.
But once you add every single mother dying in childbirth, the whole thing immediately implodes. It's impossible for your population to increase if every mother can only produce ONE egg before dying.
And then existing in the same world as humans? Complete overkill. We would've wiped them out like all the other rival hominid species.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Twitter and reddit gays think this means "Pokemon with a job". Havent seen it used how it was originally since gen 9 leak season started
You know what would actually be kino? Gym leaders who use pokemon based on the same kind of animal. Like you would have a snake gym rodent gym crab gym etc
And gharials are...? >also known as gavial or fish-eating crocodile, [...] a crocodilian in the family Gavialidae and among the longest of all living crocodilians.
>alligators are also crocodilians are they crocodiles?
While true, it doesn't help that an alternative name for gharials are... >fish-eating crocodile
Either way, I think it counts no matter if it might be an edge-case.
11 months ago
Anonymous
i guess we shouldn't ever have a good deep sea angler fish because lanturn exists. i want a gharial not a dicknosed k rool knockoff.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>i guess we shouldn't ever have a good deep sea angler fish because lanturn exists.
Now don't put words in my mouth: can there not be more than one?
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok fair. i just want a gharial that actually looks like a gharial. or at least not like a middle aged biker.
I used Krookodile in back-to-back gens, and have used Feraligatr a bunch of times in the past. The only one I didn't stick with was Skeledirge because it's ugly.
Nowadays I try and use Pokemon I've never used before.
Here before the clowncrocs apologists get in
They're my favourite animals but they don't have a single mon I like
how is that even possible. Are you, like, moronic or something?
they all look like absolute ass and don't do the animals they're based on justice
>is litetally one of the best pokemon ever designed
sorry you have shit taste
>unova mon
oh. He is moronic. I'm sorry about that bro, I didn't know
actually, it was planned for Gen 4, but they cut it when they changed Route 213 from a desert to a beach early on in development
this is also why hippopotas/gible were shoved into random caves and skorupi was shoved into the great marsh
>Route 213
In what world would that route ever make sense s a desert?
The world where they keep the sandstorms from the February 17th, 2006 build.
Yes, and ?
dude it’s a gharial with literal sunglasses and a pension for crime
if that isn’t a jobmon, I don’t know what is
>jobmon
stupid question: what does that mean?
smart answer: pokemon with natural abilities which may recall or be reminiscent of a human work (example: birds are homosexual dancers so quaquaval kind of reminds of a brazilian dancer)
moron answer: pokemon with a job
seconding the first explanation here
basically Pokémon themed around real-life human jobs or occupations
eg Cinderace plays soccer, Hitmonchan is a boxer, Meowscarada is a magician
They have no depth beyond that theming and are often designed to invoke the attire that humans with those jobs wear or the tools that they use: Inteleon has massive sausage fingers to make them look more like guns and please the yaoi crowd, probably, Sawk wears a literal karate gi, Rhyperior is covered in plates made to look like a construction helmet and vest.
They’ve always been a thing to some extent, but I personally feel they’ve gotten more and more blatant from gen 7 on to the point where they’re detrimental to suspension of disbelief and make the design look worse. If Incineroar was to be a wrestler, they could’ve just left it at the mask pattern instead of also putting it on two feet, giving it a ripped shirt and a literal belt of fire to resemble championship prizes, AND a Z-move with it doing a wrestling pose.
It’s also incredibly hard to reconcile it with its first stage, Litten, due to there being almost no foreshadowing and 0 connection between “grumpy cat” and “heel wrestler” outside of maybe having a bad attitude (which the latter fakes while the former is genuine about).
Krookodile is a very light example, in that it takes less from a literal job and more a human personality. Its design and portrayal is meant to invoke a criminal, and it seems to be a species-wide thing where every single member eventually grows up to be wicked and brutal. It’s got boots, it’s got sunglasses, it has a trademark evil grin- but they’re hardly very prominent and don’t hinder the animalistic origins it came from.
It’s alright tbh, not its fault that Dark sort of forces human personalities onto its members to some extent due to being the literal “evil” type.
> detrimental to suspension of disbelief
Literally never a thing in this series if you're hinging it off of the believability of these monsters (read: not animals) being something that you could find in the wild. Every Machamp and Machoke having belts, every Hypno having a string pendulum, every Kadabra and Alakazam having spoons, every Cubone having the skull of it's mom etc. already completely shattered any kind of irl analogue Pokemon as a whole could have.
The only reason it'd bother you now whereas it didn't before (or, at least, it bothers you more now) is because you like the designs less, not because it's gotten any more egregious in terms of fricking with the world.
Yet Cubone or Kadabra living as animals in the wild is more believable than Cinderace or Sawk.
Hell even Machamp has a way more animalistic demeanor than new gens Main-character mons.
>Yet Cubone or Kadabra living as animals in the wild is more believable than Cinderace or Sawk.
No, not really. A species of animal in which every member adorns itself with the skulls of it's parent is patently ridiculous and entirely unbelievable if you know a lick about biology. A species in the wild in which every member not only wields a blatantly man-made utensil as weapons, but knows how to use it to bolster it's abilities is also complete hogwash given that level of intelligence would imply that they should be a species that exercises human-level dominance over the world they inhabit.
No, you're either blinded by nostalgia or are masking your dislike of newer humanoids with some flimsy reasoning that falls apart with the slightest thought.
>A species of animal in which every member adorns itself with the skulls of it's parent is patently ridiculous and entirely unbelievable if you know a lick about biology.
It's frustrating because there's a lot of things about Cubone and Marowak that make sense on their own, but not when you mash them all together into one organism.
>We have plenty of semelparous species, where one or both of the parents die immediately after mating and/or giving birth. Salmon, octopuses, a few families of insects... but those are all r-selected species, and Cubone is clearly k-selected.
>We have a few species that can use tools besides humans. Great apes, a few species of monkeys, crows, and sea otters have all entered the Stone Age. Some sort of ape-like creature using a large bone as a primitive bludgeon isn't a farfetched idea.
>An animal adapted to THROWING objects to hunt prey is a little more out there... but it's happened. Once.
I think the closest you can get to Cubone is some sort of primitive, hominid-like species that evolved from cynodonts, that lives in a hot savannah-like environment and becomes hairless to adapt, that lives in groups, and hunts larger animals with bones in hunting parties. If they're intelligent enough to develop culture, I can even see them wearing the skulls of their kills as trophies.
But once you add every single mother dying in childbirth, the whole thing immediately implodes. It's impossible for your population to increase if every mother can only produce ONE egg before dying.
And then existing in the same world as humans? Complete overkill. We would've wiped them out like all the other rival hominid species.
Twitter and reddit gays think this means "Pokemon with a job". Havent seen it used how it was originally since gen 9 leak season started
>balding musician
>fat father's body type alligator
>penis face with sunburn
there really isn't any
You know what would actually be kino? Gym leaders who use pokemon based on the same kind of animal. Like you would have a snake gym rodent gym crab gym etc
I wish there was a Gharial.
That's not a gharial its a donkey kong enemy
It's name is literally krookoDILE it's a crocodile
And gharials are...?
>also known as gavial or fish-eating crocodile, [...] a crocodilian in the family Gavialidae and among the longest of all living crocodilians.
crocodilian just means it's like a crocodile. alligators are also crocodilians are they crocodiles? no.
>alligators are also crocodilians are they crocodiles?
While true, it doesn't help that an alternative name for gharials are...
>fish-eating crocodile
Either way, I think it counts no matter if it might be an edge-case.
i guess we shouldn't ever have a good deep sea angler fish because lanturn exists. i want a gharial not a dicknosed k rool knockoff.
>i guess we shouldn't ever have a good deep sea angler fish because lanturn exists.
Now don't put words in my mouth: can there not be more than one?
ok fair. i just want a gharial that actually looks like a gharial. or at least not like a middle aged biker.
I used Krookodile in back-to-back gens, and have used Feraligatr a bunch of times in the past. The only one I didn't stick with was Skeledirge because it's ugly.
Nowadays I try and use Pokemon I've never used before.
How can you call Skeledirge ugly when the others look even worse?
Because that's a scenario your brain invented, and not reality.
Meowscarada look great. Quaquaval look gay and weird but at least not ugly. Skeledirge simply look ugly and irredeemable.
Being ugly > being a gay
This is correct. All 3 of the SV starters suck, but Skeledirge is still the best of the bunch.
>Meowscarada look great.
No. Its preevo looks great. Only good thing about Meowscarada is the
name.
but I have