>he used the blackjack
>he killed people
>he reloaded a save
>he bunny-jumped
You didn’t beat the game.
>he used the blackjack. >he killed people. >he reloaded a save. >he bunny-jumped
>he used the blackjack
>he killed people
>he reloaded a save
>he bunny-jumped
You didn’t beat the game.
I don't care that you care about how I play a video game.
>You didn’t beat the game.
"Heh, how pretentious can you get?"
Uh. SJW-ie chuddies can't be pretentious. We are salt-of-the-earth indians and rich mulattos
i think i did
>he abused a glitch to get past that one spot
Nobody beat the game.
I did it for the cathredal. I don’t apologize because I really do not like the undead levels.
You're meant to save scum PC games, otherwise they would not have built in saves and loads when ever you wish.
Silence wench.
Wrong. The developers intended for you to experience the consequences of your own actions. This is not the kind of stealth game, where you get an instant game-over, when you are discovered. They gave you health potions to heal you. You can even search the level for food, if you are desperate. You have many tools to deal with guards discovering you. Flash bomb, flash mine, a moss arrow down the throat of a guard screaming for help among others.
Savescumming is always a bad habit.
the game is incoherent without save scumming, lmao simple as.
I don't know why you saying "omg but developers intended you not to!" is a good argument when it just reveals that their ability to cohesively and tightly design something was shit. Flash bombs are a shit bandaid that doesn't address the fundemental problem at the end of the day, save scumming just reveals the shallowness of the inherent trial and nature in the fact that the solution is just about knowing, not doing, or solving.
>incoherent
coheres on my machine
"coheres" isn't a word
Quicksaving is a relic of a time when devs didn't really think of player psychology, the truth is that they completely deform and destroy a game's sense of immersion and tension which is instrumental to Thief.
Yeah i dont get this, if you werent supposed to use the save system like that, why is it there?
Games had cheat codes but it wasn't the intended way to play the games.
Cheat codes weren't front and center as a main mechanic. If they didn't want people quicksaving dont put quick saves as a shortcut key.
>Cheat codes weren't front and center as a main mechanic
Neither is quick save/load, no where in any game tutorial does it teach you to quick save
There is a literal shortcut for it.
Quicksaves are provided for the consideration and convenience of players, and also as a concession that if you can save anytime by going to the menu, you might as well let the player do it by pushing a single key (it's just polite). None of that means you're supposed to savescum your way past challenges.
>he skipped thieves guild or didn't play the Gold edition
you didn't beat the game
>that pic
So fricking true
Based. If I did this level again I would probably get lost in exactly the same ways.
Blackjack'ing would be fine if it were temporary.
YOU'VE GONE — you've gone too far this time, you camel-mannered, tunic-wetting mollycoddle! An arrow in the throat ought to shut you up!
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You misunderstood the point of the game
Monsters do not count as people
game is literally fricking dogshit.
if you press jump while to close to a clamberable ledge you don't jump
holy filtered
>nobody has done a perfect ghost run their first time
>nobody really beat the game
>if you used any of the tools the game gives you then you didn't beat the game
>if you didn't beat the game with perfect stealth with no saves in one sitting then you didn't beat the game
this is why stealth games died, stealthgays are the pickiest c**ts when it comes to what counts as a "real" stealth game
stealth games died because developers are moronic.
the genre is extremely prone to being ruined by savescumming
as a kid i usually killed everything on sight, like a crazed hobo.
no one was safe.
the only downside was that i had to play on a lower difficulty, else the mission was considered a failure
Thief 1 has one f the greatest stories and atmo of any vidya. Its unreal how perfect it is.
>proto steampunk
>occultism
>ultra stylized cinematics
>a literal descend into madness as the game keeps going
Shame it also scares me shitless.
theme of thiefs 1 and 2 were order vs chaos (humanity versus human nature). in the first game you help restore order when chaos emerges. in the second game you prevent order from becoming too opressive with the help of chaos.
and 3 is about maintaining balance and at the end it all comes full circle (ain't that dandy)
>he made the guards comment about hearing rats
You didnt beat the game either
>inb4, yes people can do a supreme ghost ironman
Thieftards will never understand this because they're unironically elitists but...The single opening bridge sequence in MGS3 is better stealth than like 90% of the Thief series and its not even a joke. People call stealth "boring" but no. It's just Thief that's boring. Simple.
Admittedly ever other MGS game is shit at stealth, but MGS3 nails it not just like no other MGS game, but NO OTHER stealth game PERIOD.
I legit have ZERO idea what magic went into MGS3 to make its stealth good, I have some ideas, but people are going to think I'm biased. No, I literally think all the metal gear solid games are shit and frequently shit on MGS1 for getting so much praise compared to something like Tomb Raider 1, despite the former barely being 3D, and the latter surpassing it 10 fold in what it does with 3D.
MGS3 is just THAT good to me because i didn't expect anything of it, after hating all the MGS games and finding them overrated.
And yes I played Chaos Theory too and thought it was shit, so no it doesn't have anything to do with getting "filtered" by "omg huge sprawling complex levels that are largely a waste of space because traversal is shallow and when you're not stealthing you're just picking up trinkets!" especially because Tomb Raider, Dark Souls, Hollow Knight, OuterWilds, all exploration games that far surpass Thief in difficulty of navigation and complexity are some of my favourite games.
Thief is just overrated shit that people latch on to to feel unique, because admittedly, on the surface level its kind of unique, but you'll quickly realize how shallow all its systems are. Wide as a...small pool, shallow as a puddle? I guess.
>not copy pasta
>actually typed all of this shit bait
Seek help
>doesn't engage
>throws adhom
figures. circlejerk culture is everywhere on this board, it's how morons protect their perception of themselves not being moronic after all
Not going to even try arguing with a moron, sorry.
>thief is bad and chaos theory is bad but MGS3 is the best evah
4/10 made me reply... there have a (you)
>he didn't gain enough speed from bunnyhopping to kill himself by hitting a wall
You didn't beat it.
It‘s amazing how many Ghostards sperged out at me in this thread, who are mad that Ironman is the intended way to complete the levels and not their autistic reloading fest. Ghosting is not the highest form of playing Thief.
I'll go one further and say that "always play on Expert" is a shit meme and bad advice for new players, or in fact most players.
I played expert for both and I also used saves quite a bit but not only as checkpoints every 10 minutes or so. I did have to skip Thieves Guild though.
>"always play on Expert"
a meme
>play most levels on expert
real, most levels are upgraded on expert but some become worse
>You didn’t beat the game.
People forget that many late 90s to early 2000s games were designed to generally only be winnable via commercial guides and magazines. So by that logic you "didn't beat the game" unless you get one of those guides or magazines from that time.
I want a game that just goes with it and gives you a git like tool for quicksaves.
>I cheated through the entirety of Thief 1
I got filtered bro's. Thief 2 is my limit, but frankly I don't think I could go back today.
Go back. Down in the bonehoard you go. Don‘t come out, until you beat the mission.
nooo, please nooooooo
Bonehoard was so good. This and Constantines Manor were extremely kino levels.
deh
Flashbomb this little Black person then watch it frantically run around the map trying to find Garret.
I kill haunts, monkey "men", mantis "people", apparitions, and spiders
I tried playing Thief once, but the zombies was to scary for me.
The cutscenes in this game are so stylish, I'd really love to frick them
I hate to blackjack guards because they add so much life to the missions, but at the same time I want to explore without worrying about anything
its insane how people only need 15h max 20h to finish the game, qhile i needed like 30h because i got lost ao often.
i really must have adhd or something because i have goldfish memory and i cannot focus for shit
favorite fm?