Heart and Soul?

Heart and Soul?

Something I got to think about, after all those fake leaks, is the fact that we never really had an explanation on why Ho-Oh is associated with “Heart” and Lugia with “Soul”.
The icons of HeartGold and SoulSilver resemble Ho-Oh and Lugia, but they’re also different from them. And even though I know it can be just a reinterpretation of the artist who created them, in order to make their design look like a heart and a wisp, it’s still interesting to note it.

A similar thing happened with ORAS, when they connected Omega and Alpha to Groudon and Kyogre’s markings - that were always under our eyes, but stayed unexplained until the remakes gave them a reason to be shaped like that.

What if something like that happens with Ho-Oh and Lugia? They could have a new form that makes them look more like HGSS symbols, and they could also explain why they’re associated with Heart and Soul.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They could have a new form that makes them look more like HGSS symbols
    Johto won't have another remake sorry

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It would sell more than their other options

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bring back megas and primals

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      worst opinion ever

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heart and Soul represent the amount of effort they put into remakes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hear and Soul represents everything GF left behind after these games

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Black person it’s the theme of the games. The legendary Pokémon will only appear to trainers deemed pure of heart and soul.
    It’s about powerful Pokémon waiting for a worthy trainer. This shit is basic literacy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This shit is basic literacy.
      So you can understand why it confuses the shit out of /vp/ now, yeah?

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    how about no

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we never really had an explanation on why Ho-Oh is associated with “Heart” and Lugia with “Soul”.
    It's taken from a line of dialogue in Crystal, where Suicune is searching for a pure-hearted trainer who can touch the souls of pokemon. Dunno how Lugia made his way in there though

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >why Ho-Oh is associated with "Heart"
    It's not.
    >and Lugia with "Soul".
    It's not.

    /thread

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SoulSilver has a silhouette icon of Lugia
      okay.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why's Kyogre the Alpha and Groudon the Omega?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      because life came from the ocean and will die in vulcano eruption or other cataclysm

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it makes a good name, no more reason needed.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bird chests are like hearts and Lugia is a bawd

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lugia makes my pp hard that's pretty soulful

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    They sound cool.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >when they connected Omega and Alpha to Groudon and Kyogre’s markings - that were always under our eyes, but stayed unexplained until the remakes gave them a reason to be shaped like that

    Neither Kyogre or Groudon have Alpha or Omega markings, or anything that represents them. Not even Primal Kyogre or Groudon have the symbols. The names are superficial and could be replaced with anything because there is no connection or representation.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously this was fricking bullshit and never "under our eyes" it was just made up for the sake of being made up

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >was just made up for the sake of being made up
        No shit

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say they were def retconned into their designed for the remake.
      It's the whole aplha = beginning; omega = end thing. The games npc talk about how the land ends where the sea begins. It is also in their abilities.
      I imagine that it's supposed to be a harmonious message that the land and sea aren't separated by anything

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rayquaza is a sigma like me

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nah he's a delta

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's also that it ties them in with the gen 6 legendaries by sharing themes. Xernea-Kyogre represent life, Yveltal and Groudon are death.But even in their original games this theme was present with the two key locations relating to them in Hoenn being Mt. Pyre, which is a graveyard, and the Cave of Origin in Sootopolis.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is A on Kyogre fins
      There is Omega sign on Groudon arms

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >FireRed is a type and game
    >not call GrassGreen

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    “Heart of gold” is a common saying, heart and soul are common thematically paired. Games talk about purity of heart and soul. Lugia is a Psychic type, which is ultimately named after the Greek goddess of the soul. Heart is associated with life, which Ho-oh gives.

    Engage your brain.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heart because ho-oh can revive pokemon

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