>How do you feel about the latest event?
I spent more time thinking about Megumi being unfazed by the life drain, was it foreshadowing or not and what it could mean than about the actual plot of the event.
I just thought her psychic powers gave her some sort of natural resistance to spooky powers. There could be more to it, but this isn't a story event. I doubt they'd drop a big hint to her being inherently different in an optional event.
That's how I felt about that as well. Maeda tends to drop these "I might use these in the future? maybe? maybe not? I guess they're there now" breadcrumbs in events that don't require you to have done the latest chapter, and usually they're pretty irrelevant or at most a bit of an (unnecessary) explanation for eventual events. I stopped caring about them months ago.
>I doubt they'd drop a big hint to her being inherently different in an optional event.
It depends. Like the Jeanne d'Arc stuff in Yuina event wasn't directly confirmed because it's something you don't want people to casually skip in an optional event, but they winked at you so hard with it, it most likely is relevant.
But in this specific case I'm more interested because I want to learn more about the whole supernatural system of this world. Cancer magic, narby magic, seraphs, human psychics, spooky ghosts, all this stuff. I'm getting the feeling he actually thought about how it all properly connects, like it's not just random irrelevant shit slapped together.
Okay, so if you want an unironic spoiler for 4.2, Megumi either returns or gets a bunch of flashbacks with the scenes we haven't seen before.
Source: Her VA who is apparently allowed to say that Megumi got a bunch of tsukkomi sperg scenes in it, so maybe it wasn't a mystery in the first place.
Here's the vod at 1:14:02 https://youtu.be/FxoNskfTmfY?t=4442
Is this actually about the main story and not an event? It would make sense that she doesn't just disappear halfway through a chapter, but I just wanna make sure.
I was looking at the new styles on the seraph website and... did they both got new effects that weren't in the game before? Mind Eye and Destruction Rate Up, I don't remember seeing either of these on anyone.
They're new. Mind Eye is pretty good if it wasn't on her. The destruction rate up skill, I still think destruction is a meme unless you're doing score attack. I guess she can replace fire Karen if fire teams are still using her
It doesn't really do anything though, as you only use one blaster. Usually. For non blasters the 50% increase does nothing. It basically just makes the new blaster on par with Kura. Of course, if you ever were to use two blasters.... Kura would be getting nuts. Over 30 base destruction.
I hope not. I feel swimsuits are already out of place, imagine santa suits. I mean reindeer Yukki would be nice, but I'd like to not have such styles, just some event.
It's actually more likely to get a new year's event though. That's more Japan. Yukki's alt is already kinda that though. Maybe some other chars get that style. Let's just hope it's not as broken as a certain new years cat or brat in other games..
>I feel swimsuits are already out of place, imagine santa suits.
I mean, there's also mahou shoujo Tama and red hood Karen-chan, alts aren't canon anyway, at least for now.
whew. christ. i haven't choked up like this over a video game in a while. hope the game continues to bring this level of quality as i get caught up on the main story and other events.
How do I get stronger in this game? My main team only has 5k power and I'm recommended to be at at least 9k before I do the My Little Hero event. Do I get more stuff to upgrade with if I progress the story more? Only done main chapter 1 so far.
You'll get so many more options to upgrade your team that you won't know how to spend your lives for weeks. The first three accessory slots go up to 6 stars, the fourth so far only to 5 stars and the last one is reserved for style-specific accessories. Dungeons and boss battles will open up if you proceed with the main story. If you do the main dungeon as far it lets you and use the accessories in the main story, then it'll do a good job of keeping you on your toes. That dungeon and the three prism bosses were pretty much all we had when chapter 3 was out, so you should be able to do it with just those, too. The chapter 3 boss is even easier now than it used to be.
Afterwards you can take some time to do events, get their S styles so the characters' level caps go up to 110, do other prism bosses to forge 6* earrings and bracers, do the elemental dungeons for 6* rings, maybe fight an orb boss a few times, etc. Don't neglect Nanamin's arena overnight either so you can keep upgrading styles.
>Levels
Obviously be at the highest level as possible. Don't use arena for proactive exp gain, only use it for passive gain. The best place for exp is the highest difficulty prism battle you can do >Boosters and Chips
Always buy new boosters and chips when they're available. Though I honestly recommend buying them only when you have trouble (chapter 3 onwards) because they are quite costly. I suggest buying defensive boosters over offensive ones >Prism battles
Do prism battles, raise your status >Accessories
Do accessory dungeons. I wouldn't worry about opening slots and rerolling their stats until you get to 5*+ accessories. Also don't farm for accessories that you can make with crafting >Accessory crafting
Craft them when you can for the extra DP >Reincarnation, orb
Not really necessary, but you can work on them if you want >Post game dungeon
As it says, this is for post-game
Wow, thanks for the writeups, I appreciate that.
And for raising my Six Sense, do I really just have to replay each day 9 times so I can choose every option?
Its on option if you want to see every main story dialogue and don't want to spend life, but just doing the six sense events during free time ( like going to the library) is your best bet if you want to raise it proactively. They update every chapter so just seeing all unique mini events once is enough to keep up for the most of it. This does cost life.
Also another way to upgrade your units that hasn't been mentioned yet; get the souls of your ssr styles from memory restoration. +5 free stats ( some of them you buy from the event stores). You just need 20 of those pyramid you get from the clocktower and prism battles.
You'll get so many more options to upgrade your team that you won't know how to spend your lives for weeks. The first three accessory slots go up to 6 stars, the fourth so far only to 5 stars and the last one is reserved for style-specific accessories. Dungeons and boss battles will open up if you proceed with the main story. If you do the main dungeon as far it lets you and use the accessories in the main story, then it'll do a good job of keeping you on your toes. That dungeon and the three prism bosses were pretty much all we had when chapter 3 was out, so you should be able to do it with just those, too. The chapter 3 boss is even easier now than it used to be.
Afterwards you can take some time to do events, get their S styles so the characters' level caps go up to 110, do other prism bosses to forge 6* earrings and bracers, do the elemental dungeons for 6* rings, maybe fight an orb boss a few times, etc. Don't neglect Nanamin's arena overnight either so you can keep upgrading styles.
Fourth slot just got a 6 star variant. (Luck plus 3 sp at start)
>Levels
Obviously be at the highest level as possible. Don't use arena for proactive exp gain, only use it for passive gain. The best place for exp is the highest difficulty prism battle you can do >Boosters and Chips
Always buy new boosters and chips when they're available. Though I honestly recommend buying them only when you have trouble (chapter 3 onwards) because they are quite costly. I suggest buying defensive boosters over offensive ones >Prism battles
Do prism battles, raise your status >Accessories
Do accessory dungeons. I wouldn't worry about opening slots and rerolling their stats until you get to 5*+ accessories. Also don't farm for accessories that you can make with crafting >Accessory crafting
Craft them when you can for the extra DP >Reincarnation, orb
Not really necessary, but you can work on them if you want >Post game dungeon
As it says, this is for post-game
>you need dupes bro, trust me, without dupes you can't get a high score
https://twitter.com/aBNT4gr8I7IRIHP/status/1593220496703000577?t=KF-JmcwIDN9l3fxkFkNjpw&s=19
I have her and everyone in her squad and I'm still considering falling for the bait. If you're into a whole squad, these 0.5x6 banners with no possibility of pulling offrates are easily the best.
Imo aoi is a worse og Tama gameplay-wise. But if you want to be really safe you can bring her with a healer and never die. She's also good for eating up aoe attacks with debuffs I guess
Used my S tickets of the month and did the step up. Nothing. As usual.
Sometimes I wonder if luck can get worse than this. It probably can, but not by much. I suppose that's what's the guaranteed SS was for, but even that was literally nothing and has no use. One more SS buffer that I'll never use. Soon I can do an entire team that does nothing but enhance each other. They just need to add one more, as currently only 5 chars exists.. and I got them all.
Tried it. I almost killed it but tried to get OD3 instead of sticking with OD2 for the final HP and ended up dying. So I think I should be good for it next attempt, but I'll need to try it later.
I used the first team for the majority. The idea is that Monaka can be both breaker and attacker, and Byakko has great OD gain. Chie/Tama combo to keep everyone alive.
Finally once the second phase is broken, max DR, switch in second team and one shot with Yuina.
I barely managed to beat hard Feeler last week, so I don't think I can beat hard FlatHand with my team yet. I'm also still missing some accessories, so I haven't been using a second team on any of the hard mode bosses either.
Joke's on you, full 31B is my main party so that would be even better. Most of the others would be as wasted as the Iroha I got from my last batch of free pulls though.
Koju is useless? I recommend to look at her once more. Both versions are broken tier good. Still sad I didn't get her alt, but her base SS made my life a LOT more comfy ever since I have her. The queen of 4.1 (and probably onwards) dungeons, really, and extremely useful in every day to day grind, unless you have a good combo involving a -SP character.
There are definitely useless characters, like the base Yukki, and Shiki SS also deserves a price for being as fricking lackluster as she is. Mari is also terrible as her two moves are enhance and water field, lacking an S to this day to maybe mitigate this. Or how about Misato that needs overdrive, but doesn't generate anything herself, while overdrive itself is also much more of a dungeon concept than anything else, and her ult sure is shit in those.
But Kozue is really fricking good. One of the absolute best supporters.
Not him but what exactly do you see in Kozue that makes her strong in dungeon? She has 1 AoE which has average damage and imprison debuff. It's not terrible, but not exactly great either. Are you just using her ult to give everyone else SP regularly?
I have her and she barely sees use, no space in my team for her. Base Yukki is at least useful for mutliple enemies like the armor crabs and horse prism, she only needs to cast it once. She was my only breaker for a long time until I lb3'd her alt so she did her job just fine. My lb1 Koju is just deadweight.
Mari is fine for now as Yamawaki's enabler, she'll be better with more future ice units.
Koju really only does a handful of things well. Her ult's been nerfed since beta so it's a bit of an expense unless she's LB1 and you always have her out, and the AOE is not the greatest in terms of damage.
That leaves you with thunder support, which she's good at, but you have to choose between her SS1's better stats and her event S's better passive. Thunder is not in a great state in terms of how much utility you can stack for it either, particularly compared to whales and meta players' beloved fire.
Her SS2 doesn't fare much better as there are better sources of Fragile and ice is also weaker than fire, and the misfortune debuff sadly doesn't apply to crits.
I guess she also all but guarantees kills on hoppers, but at this point I imagine most people are starved for reroll acorns rather than unlockers. They don't even exist in the latest dungeon, and even if they did, floor 46 has an extra turn pickup.
I use her LB1 SS1 purely because I like her and have no interest in pulling for better options.
Kozue makes 6-7 turn prism fights into 4 turn fights, something only Seira can do. Kozue is also good in new dungeons, as enemies are so tanky you wanna use a lot of ultimates and buffs. Kozue restores your SP to do so. Seira is a lot worse there.
Given that Seira is considered a very high tier char and Kozue is basically a better Seira if you have crit orbs, as she gives your Healer and Buffer also bonus SP, she's a god. Pair her with S Yunyun or Shiki, and go fast.
If I wouldn't have Kozue, new dungeons would take longer. If I didn't have Kozue all my prism battle grinds wouldn't be 4-5 turns, but 6-8 turns. If I didn't have Kozue I couldn't do the new arena fight (where you can farm israeliteels and diamonds) on max difficulty in ~1:20. Sounds EXTREMELY dang good for a support, if you ask me.
The only time she isn't good is if you do overdrive stuff and as such play on stacking buffs and delaying the fight. However in most of the daily content this is only slow and pointless to do. One of the best SS I ever got, that gave me a ton, something only Yanagi managed to do before. And Yanagi is one of the absolute best. Yes, Kozue needs a team to work, but so does literally ever single supporter in the game. Kozue's requirements are however relatively easy to get as it doesn't require gacha luck, unlike for example fields where you NEED gacha luck to get the required attacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seira, Shiki and Yunyun makes all lvl 13 prisms into 3 turns depending on who you have, Koju isn't needed. I don't have any issues with the new arena and dungeons without her too. I just don't see much value in her and feels like a waste of spot in the team. If she's carrying you then good for you I guess.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>depending on who you have
This is what it comes down to with everything. I have no synergy of any kind and almost no LB1+es to speak of outside of thunder, so even though I can normally do 100+35 in score attack most months, the yellow prism usually takes me 10 turns with OD1 and Bungo missing prolonged it to 17 the one time that happened. Kozue does me a world of good for my main line-up so she can't be anything less than top tier for me personally, but her issues are easy to recognize.
I have her and she barely sees use, no space in my team for her. Base Yukki is at least useful for mutliple enemies like the armor crabs and horse prism, she only needs to cast it once. She was my only breaker for a long time until I lb3'd her alt so she did her job just fine. My lb1 Koju is just deadweight.
Koju really only does a handful of things well. Her ult's been nerfed since beta so it's a bit of an expense unless she's LB1 and you always have her out, and the AOE is not the greatest in terms of damage.
That leaves you with thunder support, which she's good at, but you have to choose between her SS1's better stats and her event S's better passive. Thunder is not in a great state in terms of how much utility you can stack for it either, particularly compared to whales and meta players' beloved fire.
Her SS2 doesn't fare much better as there are better sources of Fragile and ice is also weaker than fire, and the misfortune debuff sadly doesn't apply to crits.
I guess she also all but guarantees kills on hoppers, but at this point I imagine most people are starved for reroll acorns rather than unlockers. They don't even exist in the latest dungeon, and even if they did, floor 46 has an extra turn pickup.
I use her LB1 SS1 purely because I like her and have no interest in pulling for better options.
>meta players' beloved fire
Fire is old news. Dark is the new hotness.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Isn't FlatHand this weekend also only weak to light and dark? Even more applicable there. Dark's definitely been getting some good stuff lately.
2 years ago
Anonymous
First phase is weak to all elements, second phase only light and dark. Plus dark has the +70% crit bonus this week too, so yeah it's especially strong right now.
>mfw i got the ss ruka on that last banner and her aoe does 20k damage to all enemies
they really were not kidding about the difference in strength between rarities huh
Nope. This game is pretty bad at making lower rarities useful. There are some S that can be used, but not for damage and they are still worse than their SS.
You can just dl the steam version now, that's how i got into the game. But i wouldnt say it's worth playing without being able to understand the story anyway
She can't do that, unless you are really overpowered. Mind you I have her, but she's not doing anything. A typical case of a whale toy, really.
Seira, Shiki and Yunyun makes all lvl 13 prisms into 3 turns depending on who you have, Koju isn't needed. I don't have any issues with the new arena and dungeons without her too. I just don't see much value in her and feels like a waste of spot in the team. If she's carrying you then good for you I guess.
You don't need her for the prism fights if you use Seira. She's still doing something similar, but of course if you build an entire party around double enhancing + charge and use Seira you get a 1 turn advantage, as you can't use the SP you gain in turn 3 in turn 3. Though this does require a charge buffer (=Shiki) and Field Enhancer (Tsukasa S, Higuchi alt, Iroha) that can live.
Kozue is much better than Seira in dungeons though, and still extremely good for prisms. Without either Seira or Kozue, or the SP- strategy with TONS of firepower, you will take a much longer time. I think Seira doing prisms a little better (with a lot of help) is just fair, when Kozue is actually not entirely trash in dungeons, and in fact pretty good for your SP upkeep. Saves energy, too.
In gacha you generally tier characters based on how fast they make things and how overall useful a char is. HBR isn't exactly a game with massive difficulty and stats are the most important, though obviously elemental teams a good, yet require whaling or good luck in gacha. This is why everything crit is so awesome -> It makes things die a lot faster. SP recovery is the same. Sure it doesn't do anything if you have nothing else, but that's the same with literally anything.
Calling that trash is just completely wrong. That's like calling batteries in counterside trash, TP boost in pricon trash and so on. Kozue is a battery, just like S Yunyun. That is VERY strong.
Sure, there are cases where she doesn't do anything for you, as there are always specific chars that are simply outstanding in a specific field. Being really good in a lot of fields (other than OD strategies, where for example Seira is also trash), is however still good. I think calling that bad is really really wrong. It's like calling Tama's vanilla SS+S trash.
Managed to hit 175k on the score attack. Annoyingly close. If I was at 160k I could just be happy with that and call it a day, but now I know there’s a chance I could hit 180k. Bungo missed her ulti once, and half the team didn’t have their styles fully enhanced yet.
Think the recent album also leaked the existence of the song even before we got the new expressions. Figured it'd be her turn eventually after seeing that.
If your charge is at 100+X%, does using it bring you down to X% or 0%? I want to use it on a 31B SS2 once I finally pull one, but if that doesn't happen before I get to 200% then I have no idea who to use it on.
Not that I've tried it, but it says it uses up either 100% or 200%, not the entire gauge. I imagine you can also use it twice in a row if it's at 200% to get a style from LB 0 to 2 and it doesn't just reset to 0 after the first use.
That's how I interpreted it as well. There's not a lot of content right now that requires anything more than well optimized LB1s, but I hope we'll get 4.2 before we reach 200% just in case that stops being true for the main story.
Koju event was good, fun theme(turning into a ghost) you won't see in this game otherwise, some fun interactions here and there, an okay story, some lore foreshadowing with the spiritual part of the setting and also whatever that Megumi thing was. Now, Yuina event, that was complete filler schlock despite her being one of the most hyped non-31A characters in the game.
I quite enjoyed the Koju event too, but I really hope the next one will be something along the lines of U140 or Carol's event. The mixture of silliness and bringing together 6 mostly random characters has worked pretty well for them so far. The recent serious stuff has been quite hit and miss in comparison and I don't think many would complain if they went with something lighter in preparation for 4.2.
It's actually kinda silly she doesn't count despite literally having proper swords. I can understand why Megumi, Monaka etc. don't count with their gigantic weapons of mass destruction, but why her.
the best events for me is still the half anniversary swimsuit event and Requiem for the blue. No surprise there since it had the most foundation in terms of main story connection that made it more ripe compared to the other stories.
Funny enough my least favorite is probably Kura's event. Even though just like the two events I mentioned above, it's also closely connected to the main story.
Nothing against Kura, but I just don't like the pacing of that story. And how it shoves the 'sadness' into the readers through Kura's narration that I begin to care less as it goes on and on and on.
I mean, I get it. Her memories and identity is slowly dissappearing but jeez. It was a slog to get through. Also the story being mostly recap doesn't help too. I get the point that it's a recap through Kura's perspective but still..
Also, some art from the known doujin artists there:
https://twitter.com/Comike_Plus/media
Sadly with the shitty watermarks because it's bonus postcards or something.
>get 4 defender chains in a row
frick this shit. The odds has to be skewed towards defender, healer, and debuffer cause I keep getting them meanwhile attacker and buffer is rare as hell
HBR RNG is very very clumpy. It affects every single part of this game.
-Usually you either encounter no rare encounter or many in a very short amount of time. Shuttle running showcases that very nicely
-If you start getting unlucky with crits, it's usually gonna stay around
-Gacha fricks you over for long times and/or gives you a lot of shit at once with little in between.
It's pretty sad actually, but not too uncommon in the industry. HBR is just one of the more extreme cases where it's easy to see.
Frick I remember those times I got several skill upgrades in one battle, or a upgrades several battles in a row. That happens way more often than it should with the absurdly low chances. And of course it goes both ways. That one ability that upgrades from 1 to 8 in 8 hours? And that other one that gets 0.
I'm not sure if it helps to just stagger out your stuff, but generally speaking: Get used to it.
New song SV0070 and SI0070 and a lot of new cute tomboys in the mega folder now. These are resampled so they fit under Ganker's file size limit. 4 new pose files to follow later
I went auto and died to the boss on day 4. I thought it was one of those guaranteed loss battles, but I got a game over and had to restart day 4. Frick.
The day 4 boss is first a scripted loss, and then 2nd part of it, you only have to break the shield, so I just saved SP and used the big skills while managing heals/rotating characters in to save SP
I messed up and had Chiroru break, but Yanagi's base heal does about 80-90% of the bar and is absolutely good enough to keep you afloat. Double enhance on Kanata and Chiroru, followed by the first round of Maki+Chiroru+Kanata ults, then eventually followed by a single enhance + OD1 + Maki, Shiki and Kanata ulting, was more than enough to not only break it, but also take its HP down, so you can definitely be less cautious than that so long as you make liberal use of Yanagi's SP5.
Something like an 8.5 or even a 9. Getting close to the end now, but I love the humor and overall simplicity of the event. I really think the game needs more such events, primarily for the interactions. I also expected to be annoyed by having to use preset parties again, but I felt it added to the experience this time around and I hope they'll follow this formula for future events as well instead of requiring specific power levels.
The constant errors that threw me back to the title screen after a fight are frustrating though. Wonder if that's a Steam issue or a new bug in the latest patch.
Really fun event overall. Standouts would be Fubuki and Hisame. That Hisamegay got a great last supper before she gets iced permanently. There really isn't much to say. I guess if I had to point anything out, Inori's whole spiel and resolution were quite predictable and there was less gags after day 1. I would've loved to see Asamin get punished by Tezuka in the epilogue since she was also great in this event. Maki's memory episode was also one of the best. Now if they wanted to do something insane and extra, It would've been kinda cool if there was a bad ending to the event since the talks in day 2 were optional. I'm just saying, maybe instead of mercy, Inori awakens her hidden psychopathy instead.
Thought it was a fun little event, nothing too overly dramatic, the bits of comedy were nice. The Day 4 battle royale went about as expected for the winner, but was still funny seeing how it played out.
One day I want to make a meme party:
Shiki, Iroha, Yanagi, Monaka, Hisame and what was that scaredy cat S style called again? Well, her.
OD bulding with the S + automatic dark damage amp, Shiki, Iroha and Yanagi for buffing/healing, Hisame for debuffs and Monaka for the big bang strike once the DP shield is down.
I could honestly do it. I should even have enough LB mats to get everyone used a LB (Monaka already has one)
But I think that's ultimately still just a meme and when it comes down to it completely pointless for day to day stuff. Not sure if maybe Higuchi alt would be an idea instead of the amping S style, but Monaka needs to buff for 35 SP and then still ult (13 sp) which is gonna take long, so OD building is probably a good idea. Higuchi could however save 10 sp I guess by stacking her buff twice on Monaka... if it stacks.
I kinda wanna do it, but I also hate using SS upgrades on non alts.
So I was lazy and barely touched the newer dungeon, but now that it's actually required for the SS ticket, are there really any tough spots on the way to floor 40? Only went up to floor 18 and didn't have any problems, so mostly just wondering if there's a jump in difficulty at all
The only real tough spot I've run into is the floor 40 boss. It can fire a multi-hit attack that just eats through full shield and HP on lvl 110 characters as soon as turn 2. You'll probably want to preserve some OD turns for it. Floor 35 has the same kind of boss but weaker. After floor 25 or so elemental attacks really start to matter, so you'll want to bring a range of AoE attackers with elemental damage if you want to arrive at the boss with some energy left.
I'm fine if it's fire or ice, but other elements will be kinda iffy, but I have a bunch of dungeon tickets expiring in my box soon so I guess I can just try to brute force as far as I can if I have to
Dark is so far ahead of damage now. With both a breaker and attacker that gets +50% against their niche and extra power when charged, not even fire can keep up.
Monaka is currently the attacker with the highest possible attack damage (with full tokens). This is both before LB3, but her LB3 is also stronger than all other LB3 bonuses which pushes her further ahead. She's also incredibly versatile because despite being an attacker, she does the same damage to DP and HP.
Inori is really strong as well though, especially if you have an external source of charge.
Shit, not only was the paid quartz scam good, the paid senpai random SS was also good. I got my final senpai, and own now 4 out of 5 field casting SS. The one I lack I have only bad SS for anyways (elec, I only have Higuchi alt)
I honestly expected a e-girlta dupe, because that would've been the worst to get. Not like that's even that bad. Still my only SS defender.
This means event S are no longer so good and at the same time you can't upgrade your SS level cap with S/A easily anymore. That said, if they don't change the difficulty, the game would become very easy now, although I suppose this is for the next chapter that's going to increase the required stats by quite a bit.
I do like that lb1 SS are probably useful now without needing 10 more levels from the S style or something. Probably. It was always weird how a lvl 100 lb1 performs worse than a lvl 110 lb0.
This looks really nice. This actually means that resetting prism battles on bad RNG would be less annoying. Is it finally Bungo's time to shine? Ahaha. Who am I kidding.
I find this change quite meaningless. Higher level cap sounds like we’ll get stronger, but they’ll just inflate the enemy stats and we’re back to square one.
I’m glad we’ll be able to spend multiple life points for faster farming though. Wonder if it’ll allow us to spend more than 5 at once.
If anything once they inflate the enemy stats it's just going to end up being a nerf to LB0 SSes. I understand raising the levels and the level cap for SSes, but the changes they've made to As and S-es just takes them out of the equation again and puts them back where they were before the original chapter 3 level buff.
They're inflating it so more people can finish 3 and 4.1 before 4.2 because it's finally kinda coming and the completion stats that were shown on stream are not very promising,
If anything once they inflate the enemy stats it's just going to end up being a nerf to LB0 SSes. I understand raising the levels and the level cap for SSes, but the changes they've made to As and S-es just takes them out of the equation again and puts them back where they were before the original chapter 3 level buff.
I don't think it's that bad if it's handled correctly.
The current situation is bad for one major reason: new SS are bad. This is a really shitty place to be in, as we very quickly moved into the territory where you NEED lvl 110, or else you can basically forget doing stuff. LB doesn't even matter. lvl 100 lb1 < lvl 110 lb0.
This situation needed change. There's also another reason this needed to change: What are new people going to do? If you play for a while you get your S upgrades eventually, but new people are.. new.
This change will do 2 very important things:
-SS without an S do no longer have massive disadvantages (think Miko, Mari or even some that only have a relatively recent S like Higuchi)
-SS lb1 is no longer weaker than ss lb0 but max lb S.
-SS lb2 also has more value as it bumps the level cap higher than what you can do with S
I'm not sure if they massively bump the stat requirement. Yes, everything gets stronger to an extend, but I feel like a lot of it had to get stronger to deal with the 340 we have now. Easy example Yunyun. She dies turn 2 against hailhorses if they focus her, and there's literally nothing you can do about this. 10 levels will help.
This was a necessary change going forward. It's a really shitty situation to get a new SS and it's unusable because the level cap is garbage and you are only happy about those that have an event S. Now every SS basically has a former event S, and those with an event S still have a bit of an edge, just not as big anymore. If they don't screw up max LB S style supports, this is only positive and much needed going forward.
tl;dr: This should be a LOT better balanced than what we have right now.
>global will be behind all 3 versions now
I'm pretty surprised that they put out these two new versions without much fanfare or advertisement. I suppose the gacha culture in the east would make them a success regardless, but I'd be even more surprised if they dumpped the global version in the same manner
>I'm pretty surprised that they put out these two new versions without much fanfare or advertisement.
They both will have their own reveal streams and stuff, it's on their pages
https://kr.heaven-burns-red.com
https://tw.heaven-burns-red.com
They said the December event will be something like the swimsuit event, so we're getting the Christmas event for sure. There was also something about "different" character campaign but I really failed to parse whatever the frick it was about.
Found some people on twitter talking about it, still have no idea what exactly they meant by this. >これまでとは違う形でキャラクターに関わるキャンペーン >12月中旬にこれまでとは違った形のキャラクターが関わるキャンペーンをやる
What I got from them talking about 4.2 >They hired more staff to put more effort into the story chapters and up the quality even more >Script, voice/mocap recording are all done >Yuugen was asked to design some new non-playable characters
They didn't say that, but I would be really surprised if it isn't an anni release at this point.
It is probably something like that. Some people on JP twitter were guessing collab characters, but I don't think that's correct.
Yes, it isn't a proper event, just a campaign, that's what they meant by
>There was also something about "different" character campaign but I really failed to parse whatever the frick it was about.
Also, a new collab with something.
Is that shampoo that Yuina is buying? I can't believe they couldn't think of anything else for Miya other than a broom that I assume is for some kind of miko cosplay
>Christmas meme event is pretty much confirmed
Do you think it's time for the 2nd wave of 31A alts already or will they hold out a little bit before pulling that out?
Limit breaking only raises the level cap for that character. There are also some non-exclusive stats you can get that apply to all styles, the ones highlighted in red usually at the bottom of an upgrade group.
I don't know if there was an easier source of song titles for the game audio files, so I spent a few hours copying the titles from the OST Vol. 1 and Love Song from the Water to the appropriate mp3 file from the game in the mega folder. Here's just the raw list of filenames and their titles: https://pastebin.com/fGYUTJwd
Since batch re-tagging mp3 files is apparently something every OS needs a separate tool for, here's a Python script that'll apply those same tags if you happen to use Python already. I know it works because in the process of testing it I accidentally wiped all the tags I manually set and recovered them with this. Just install eyed3 first, then save this in the same folder as the mp3s and run it: https://pastebin.com/pxHZwhyz
Songs I couldn't find titles for from the albums:
SB0103
SB0104
SB0107
SV0011
SV0012
SV0061
And any that start with SZ
Eventually I may also reupload all the files with the titles already applied.
seems like more building up for Yuina imo. Can't wait till she fully remembers who she really is. Not that I fully believed that she's Jeanne D Arc anyway.
Either way, her character might have a full 180 once she regained her memories, like Tsukasa.
People who're pushing for humanity sake are most of the time.. can't be trusted.
With the new missions wanting you to actually do weekend bosses, I figured I'd try one. Game promptly put me into a fricking dungeon and I quit out again.
They could've done this a little less dumb, seriously. I doubt I could do it anyways. Not a whale, no Aoi. And from what I've seen of those enemy stats, there's no fricking hell I can deal with 2k+ aoe damage per turn that these tend to have, if not more.
Speaking of which, they need to do something about healing not scaling whatsoever. Now that more def than the border does nothing anymore, heals being capped so low makes healing more and more worthless.
It feels like healing is stuck half a year in the past. I mean it's fine against content from half a year in the past. But that's it.
>Now that more def than the border does nothing anymore
What do you mean by this? I'm pretty sure that more defense absolutely helps, when do you think this changed?
I can't say if it ever changed because only as of 4.1 this was relevant. It could've been always the case, but in 3 I was under the border anyways.
The entirety of 4.1 was basically that, people even made tests for the bosses showing that going above the border doesn't do anything, and I think any and all content currently works like this, at least boss-wise. Easy example is score attack, where even the lvl 30 one deals damage even though the border is chapter 1 tier. Shuttle running ch3 normal mobs still do 1 damage, but I dunno about bosses in the new ch3.
tl;dr: It should affect any and all current content. They did it so they can keep the border lower yet not lose all challenge. Score attack shows that it works relatively well, as does 4.1.
Someone in this thread claimed this before and so I ran my own tests a few months back. I can clearly see a difference in damage done at various points above the border.
MLB characters are WAY tankier than a character that just meets the border, I only have LB2 here.
That's probably just rng still or your stats of the higher damage is below the border (remember, some things are 2x Con 1x SPR and vice versa). Again, just play score attack. If damage reduction would be a thing past border, the first one should deal 1 damage. It doesn't. The border is 60 till lvl 30.
Unless the game is just inconsistent. Not claiming it's not. But I've not seen any mattering damage difference in all of 4.1 regardless of how much def my chars had as long as it's above the border.
You are still insistent despite providing no screenshots or examples, just "it didn't work for you in 4.1".
So here, as you said I tested it in score attack. You can see the stats for the 3 characters, this is on level 100.
Yuina does a CONx2 attack, so the effective defenses are the following:
Yuina: 383
Ruka: 353
Tama: 290 (exactly at border)
Each has the same starting DP, 3004. I ran 3 damage tests and you can see that every single time, Yuina took the least damage, then Ruka, then Tama. Further, look here for the enemy stats:
https://www.seraph.day/enemies/Enemy_YShirakawa_scoreattack_d
AoE min damage is 350, multiplied by 3.2 because it's level 100. So 1120 damage, which if you subtract from 3004 is 1884 leftover DP before RNG. Notice how that's really close to Tama's DP?
If you want to assert anything else (including "it's inconsistent") then provide screenshots and evidence.
Damage reduction does occur with stats past the border. Pic is my team's damage at Level 30 with everyone's defense at around 320. The Effect Parameter Cap is what determines the necessary stats needed to reduce the damage to 1, but with Score Attack it's not as straight forward. Since the border and stats don't change between SA Level 1 and Level 30, that means the Effect Parameter Cap is what changes between levels, which is why my team takes >1 damage from attacks, but it's not the roughly 350/800 you're implying I would be taking. I can go up to around level 12 before I start taking more than 1 damage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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To expand on this from my personal observations: There seems to be 2 different scaling calculations for damage taken. The main one is the scale used for below border to border, where meeting the border drops the damage to the minimum damage for the enemy's attack, +/- RNG variation. The second scale is used for above border stats and reduces the minimum damage even further as you approach the Effect Parameter Cap. Most of the time for harder enemies, the Effect Parameter Cap is so large that it's unfeasible for current teams to reach it and reduce damage to 1, which would be why you have the impression that stats above the border don't do anything, even though it absolutely does.
Could be. It would explain why having 20 more defense does nothing against pretty much any boss.
That also explains how you can possibly live against some of the more nasty things like score attack 100 or the weekend stuff.
But yeah. Let's just say it's better to have 12 attack more than 12 defense more if your defense is above the boss border anyways. Def has very little impact past that.
Damage reduction does occur with stats past the border. Pic is my team's damage at Level 30 with everyone's defense at around 320. The Effect Parameter Cap is what determines the necessary stats needed to reduce the damage to 1, but with Score Attack it's not as straight forward. Since the border and stats don't change between SA Level 1 and Level 30, that means the Effect Parameter Cap is what changes between levels, which is why my team takes >1 damage from attacks, but it's not the roughly 350/800 you're implying I would be taking. I can go up to around level 12 before I start taking more than 1 damage.
To expand on this from my personal observations: There seems to be 2 different scaling calculations for damage taken. The main one is the scale used for below border to border, where meeting the border drops the damage to the minimum damage for the enemy's attack, +/- RNG variation. The second scale is used for above border stats and reduces the minimum damage even further as you approach the Effect Parameter Cap. Most of the time for harder enemies, the Effect Parameter Cap is so large that it's unfeasible for current teams to reach it and reduce damage to 1, which would be why you have the impression that stats above the border don't do anything, even though it absolutely does.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>There seems to be 2 different scaling calculations for damage taken. The main one is the scale used for below border to border, where meeting the border drops the damage to the minimum damage for the enemy's attack, +/- RNG variation. The second scale is used for above border stats and reduces the minimum damage even further as you approach the Effect Parameter Cap.
We've known this since like week 3. That's why it's called the BORDER, it divided the two formulas.
The calculation is implemented in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WeO-OzkOyiaXWguXT7ugXPvYT3SXyvwGdAu2xdXCbLQ/
Someone in this thread claimed this before and so I ran my own tests a few months back. I can clearly see a difference in damage done at various points above the border.
MLB characters are WAY tankier than a character that just meets the border, I only have LB2 here.
And an additional shot showing the damage decrease is consistent, it's not randomness that is causing the difference.
This weekend’s boss is particularly bad because it has the 100 stamina limitation like regular dungeons. And that carries over to the boss too. If you make it to the boss with 0 stamina you’ll need to beat both forma in 5 turns.
This weekend’s boss is particularly bad because it has the 100 stamina limitation like regular dungeons. And that carries over to the boss too. If you make it to the boss with 0 stamina you’ll need to beat both forma in 5 turns.
Yea, I hadn't touched those either since it seemed like it'd be too hard for me...oh well, probably just put it off for now, not like it expires. At least the winter free rolls have been kind and given me SS Megumi (lb0) and SS Isuzu (lb1 now)
Given the 500 quartz reward I figured I'd do the new dungeon till 20. Was surprised that 11+ was already chapter 4.1 in green. Was happy I could find a reason to take Hisame with me. Aoe ultis are so useful there.
Now I'd like to say I'm done with dungeons for a few months again, but I still have almost 90 dungeon tickets. What do I do with all that shit. Maybe I do a few runs of the elemental dungeons to stock up on.. stuff.
I'm always low on the drops that change stat bonuses on accessories, so I should probably do a few runs myself. I went through the list of pickups recently and I think the water ring dungeon gives the most of those.
From the time I did fire dungeons (man that's been well before the PC version was out..), I still have a few hundreds of shuffle items, just not fill items. I feel like you get much more shuffle than fill, but I also collected ALL shuffle items in the fire one, including all of those you gotta warp to.
For me it was quite good. There was only a 1 in 12 chance of getting something bad from it (Miko). Literally everything else would've fit in well with what I have, which is far more than I can say about most of the recent SSes.
Speaking of the mission board. What's the meta for getting 35 million total power? Stuck on 27milion right now and aside from leveling up my unused characters I'm not sure what to do without wasting rolls.
Leveling up your unused characters should do a lot. Getting one from lvl 1 to 51 just added around 40k for me and getting another from 100 to 101 added another 30k. Adding a single +2 to an S style added around 2k while filling out the first group of style upgrades added 15k. I'm at 30.1 million myself, so I'll add some girls I never use to my prism farming teams.
It should just be inflated char power. So every stat is +100(?), while 10 dp/hp count as 1 stat, and for everything else it's 1. Every style counts here, so levels are probably the easiest way.
One very interesting thing from the KR announcement stream is that theirs and TW versions will start at the exact same point where the Japanese one will be at the moment of the release and will get the same updates at the exact same time, they won't do the thing where they start from the beginning and are a year behind. This will probably happen to global too if global will ever happen.
Also, if someone needs it, here's the 31A VA comments, at 1:02:50
I feel like that's much more of an argument for global never ever coming. There are almost no global versions that happened later that ever got this treatment. I know Counterside wants to get this done eventually and tries to play catchup really hard, but immediately everything available? No fricking way in hell. It's gonna be at best like Trails, where a western publisher lags behind many years while the chinese versions come out in parallel.
It'd be nice to be proven wrong here, but I ain't seeing it man. Not when it's not done from day 1 onwards.
One thing about this is that WFS have their own English publishing branch dealing with their global stuff, so if they WANT to do it, they can do it, they won't need to beg some 3rd party company to do it for them. Whenever they want to do it is obviously an another question.
What are they handling? Another Eden? Because that's a prime example of always behind, run by a single person kinda deal. Also the global steam version sucks ass among other issues that made it be far behind the JP version. The Japanese pc port works, too.
I mean it'd be nice if they'd be able to do it, but I still doubt it. Especially when they offer china and korea now, global looks less and less likely. This "it's the same game" idea is great, but it makes it feel like if you gonna do this now, may as well do it with everything you actually want.
As sad as it is, I still think there is no global market.
Also, they said they plan to simply add the Korean/Chinese language options to the current Japanese app, so every server will use the same app and not their own special app versions. I wonder what this means in practice, like is it possible for people who already play on JP server to just flip the language setting and continue with their account state there.
It sounds like its just a language setting as well as obviously being available on additional regions in the google play store. So yeah, even if you are playing in Japan if you want to change the language you should be able to.
Wow that's an insane amount of content at release, but also an insane amount of quartz, campaigns, life stones, mats, pick-ups, sales, etc that they're missing. I hope someone tallies up the total they're getting skimped out on. Playing these versions would be constant multi-tasking having to farm both current and past events too. Re-rolling would also be harder I think to get the Seira+Tama PVE combo. I honestly wish global doesn't do this format at release. I'd rather have 2 or 3 events in a month and catch up eventually than lose out on all that. Also assuming that they're getting 4.2 at the same time as JP they've got like 2 months to clear 4.1 for the presumed campaign quartz lol. Man I feel bad for any of those fans who were planning on saving for someone, but now their pickup doesn't even exist
At this point I wouldn't worry about catching up and just play it like a VN. The difference between a new JP player and KR+ player is that JP players had all the time in the world to start playing while KR was forced to wait.
If anyone is planning on playing global I would suggest starting NOW because if you can just swap the language
Also, they said they plan to simply add the Korean/Chinese language options to the current Japanese app, so every server will use the same app and not their own special app versions. I wonder what this means in practice, like is it possible for people who already play on JP server to just flip the language setting and continue with their account state there.
option, you can presumably swap it to English when global comes out
The balancing is moronic in this game so instead of playing catch up you can just wait for them to nerf the difficulty instead.
They've already nerfed previous chapters multiple times and now they're increasing the level cap too.
Yeah it's kinda funny. If they actually replayed from day 1 (including rolling back the client), you'd have a worse time than just rerolling today and doing arena to level 110 (after the update).
You do not need Seira and really don't want to reroll for her, one of the most useless SS you could start with. She does nothing until her ultimate and then it's only useful in boss fights, but still not needed. Chapter 3 has been nerfed so much, there's no need for crits. Heck, there never was, I beat the original without any source of crit just fine back then. The changes soon will make 4.1 no problem without crits as well.
And by that point you can get the orb bosses crit orbs. The level cap will make these a LOT easier as well, and as long as you start with Tama you are going to have 0 issues, period. HBR is in a much better state than it was in the past, and in a few weeks it's gonna be even better for new players.
Really, if anyone wants to start: Do not bother with Seira. They really did a good job at making her not irrelevant, but also no longer even remotely needed. Tama vanilla is the best to start with from the initial 6 though.
I'd recommend to just get as many SS as possible, ideally including a Buffer with enhance (Higuchi alt, Tsukasa vanilla or Iroha are probably ideal, two of which have useful fields and one the ultra single target drug) as well as someone that is good in dungeons and can deal damage. Like any gacha SS from MC Ruka, Karen, Byakko, Kura, Yuina... there are a lot really. It's more of an exception if a breaker/attacker/blaster/debuffer can't do well in dungeons, but they unfortunately exist.
There's also Yanagi who's very good. It's relatively future proof to grab her, as I can see two party things becoming enforced at some point, and every party needs a healer/protector. Given how there are only really 4 chars with SS in the game that can do this right now (Tama, Yanagi, Erika, and to an extend mom) it can be nice to pick up one more on top of the Tama starter. Right now that isn't needed though.
I guess I can finally do 100+35 consistently. Had to wait for the rules to change since my team is Fire, and then I had to wait a few days because I got my Karen Alt to LB3 and wanted to level her up to max. Ended up getting two Breaks, but used Tama's revive ultimate to recover and defeat Yuina next turn. My max damage was low because I couldn't get enough OD gauge for more debuffs and Ruka didn't critical the first hit of her ultimate. Maybe later I'll have better runs since I still haven't fought an Orb boss and thus have no Orb skills.
On the day of the stream people were talking about a "Christmas event" while it might as well be a NY or a general winter event too, it isn't clear at all. We were also guessing if it's a 31a event or not, while Shimoda just straight up said it is.
Randomly found this on google, a bit scuffed but readable translation of their Korean interview.
https://www.world-today-news.com/heaven-burns-red-focused-solely-on-player-enjoyment/
Interesting points:
You will indeed be able to just continue to play on your Japanese account with a different language setting.
They planned HBR to be like that from the start(so the possible future servers will be like that too).
The localization is done in-house, they're not on mercy of some random company doing it for them.
This might change, but right now they still don't plan to add any new girls beyond the initial 48.
>This might change, but right now they still don't plan to add any new girls beyond the initial 48.
Good. 48 is a frickhuge cast for this kind of story and they're only just starting to breathe a bit of life into some of the extras.
I mean. We will lose characters. I personally do hope they add new characters, but not like an entirely new squad. Just you know. That mysterious type of character that eventually appears and once again throws everyone's world view through a grinder. Like a cancer girl.
Of course they wouldn't tell us that they are planning to add new characters even if they did, as that'd automatically be spoiler territory and HBR really cares about this. But I really kind of expect something. Not any time soon. But in another 2 or 3 chapters...
There's one big problem with the new characters. If they add a new character in let's say chapter 6, they can't really utilize her in any event without making it a ch.6 clear req. Which also means they can't give a normal event to any new character, only interludes like the Iroha one.
Yeah, that's why I meant something that does not regularly appear. Then it really doesn't matter. It doesn't even need to be a style for another year or so after appearing for the first time.
I’m most curious about how they’ll update that menu where you can see all the character information grouped by teams, if any characters are being added to existing teams, or if there are any team reshuffles. There’s also all that merch they’ve been selling, and roster changes like that would make their marketing quite difficult.
Which would make me think they are not doing any changing to that menu or the "official" teams. Even if a team member works with squads missing a member, they won't be a part of that squad "officially".
CN stream was basically KR stream but in Chinese, nothing notable, even the VA messages were the same. The only difference is that they had some Ruka and Yuki cosplayers appearing on stage at the very last minute for some reason.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1602543842145628160
They don't tease an event there, so it seems that Christmas stuff will be only a campaign + alts.
I'm now thinking about the style distribution for the actual event, knowing it's 31A. I think the Sumomo equivalent for the event will be a character without an SS style and she will get it there and then the 2nd SS will be a 31A alt, like that Aoi/Yuki banner.
From what I've gotten from others: >S Miko: 2-hit 10SP Light AOE with a chance to stun >SS2 Bungo: 2-hit 9SP Light AOE, 4-hit 13SP Light ST DP+30%, does DP+50% the first time you use it in a fight, seems to have a self def down attached to it. LB3 bonus is self +25% light damage if in the vanguard at the start of the turn. >SS2 Wakki: 5SP single target Doping w/ self def down, low damage 4-hit 11SP Light AOE w/ party Light attack up. LB3 bonus is party +10% skill damage if in the vanguard at the start of the turn. She's also seemingly not an attacker.
So, it wasn't early, huh. > Light
I understand they planned to alternate elements from the start, but Ice is so behind right now, it would benefit it from not alternating anything
Thanks anon. Wow I can't believe it has that limiter on it, while Kanata can just get full power with a charge buff. Though I guess it's supposed to be a one and done attack either way
For what it's worth, the first-time use also seems to come with more base damage on top of what I've mentioned, so she should hit harder initially. I'll just wait and confirm it for myself later though, once I'm free enough to do the datamining myself or the usual site gets updated, whichever comes first.
Those lb3 bonuses give some leeway for still using the ss1 style if you have both instead of them being out right replaced. Especially if you are running elemental teams.
You know, they're not going to spam these SS2 one after the other back to back, so it isn't looking fine at all. Maybe the next wave of 31a alts will be also ice to compensate.
Actually, when I think about it, 31B SS2 already got both their Buffer and Debuffer. Higuchi is amazing, but isn't ice. Kozue does ice damage, but her utility is actually generic, not ice focused.
Obviously, Ichigo, Byakko or Aoi(if Aoi SS2 even happens in the near future) can have off-class abilities, but it would be really nice to get something on top of that, like SS3 Megumi as a proper ice debuffer, for example.
I seriously hope before they start with ss3 madness, they do something about the LB issue.
Or rather, I hope they don't start with it any time soon. That can still wait a year.
Well, another option is to turn 31X into a mixed element unit and make Sharo an ice debuffer. It obliviously would fit her thematically and is better than her being thunder because thunder already got a single target debuff and have a 2nd chance to get something from Miya SS2 too.
That you can't use ults from new styles on older styles that may have higher LBs. In fact, they have to do something, as even SS2 can't be used, so if they'd add an SS3 we'd not be able to use SS2's ult on that anyways.
Mind you, this might even be sorta good in some ways, but I'd rather they just remove the restriction of generalize to begin with, also so you can level all ults past 10.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's not an issue, it's designed that way to give alts their inherent value and uniqueness and not just a glorified ult unlocker, that's how most gacha alts work. Leveling the alt ults to 13 I can get behind.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Then units should be self contained to begin with. They aren't. Given that S styles already largely function as a bonus ability, why would SS be different.
It just doesn't work like that in this game. It actively discourages picking up alt versions.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's why they're S styles, there's a difference in rarity. If people find value in the alt's ult then that's obviously more than enough reason to get them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It actively discourages picking up alt versions.
Definitely not. With generize it significantly encourages you to invest in alts over original styles.
The moment they made generalize a thing, they said good bye to style identity and made newer styles the go to, as they can do everything the older could, and more. This is the main difference to usual gacha. There you'd need the older version invested on, if you want to use their abilities.
If HBR never did generalize I'd say alright. No problem. The fact that they DID however means that all styles still need to have the same value eventually. And that is just not the case right now. This WILL bite them in the ass eventually. It's already doing so. If you have a lb1/2/3 or whatever of a good SS, an alt you'd need to get many times to compete would need to be utterly godly to be relevant. And they generally aren't. So far we only have cases where the base version is utterly trash.
1 year ago
Anonymous
So you're saying roll for new units, okay.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>It actively discourages picking up alt versions.
Definitely not. With generize it significantly encourages you to invest in alts over original styles.
That you can't use ults from new styles on older styles that may have higher LBs. In fact, they have to do something, as even SS2 can't be used, so if they'd add an SS3 we'd not be able to use SS2's ult on that anyways.
Mind you, this might even be sorta good in some ways, but I'd rather they just remove the restriction of generalize to begin with, also so you can level all ults past 10.
You don't need to worry about SS3 not getting old ults if your ults are fricking useless.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Megumi somehow being one of the more powerful SS despite having shit ults.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't know if I can call her that, but yes, she's decent if you have the proper debuff styles. I think it's the big benefit of debuffers as a class, they have the bigger chance to get some useful debuff as a non-ult ability, so they will accumulate them as the time goes. Especially Megumi, she will have more chances to get something due to 31A getting S2 styles and fast track SS3, whenever it happens. Well, unless they will change her class later, but even then a different class with good generic debuffs is probably still a good thing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah, I mean having both defense down (S) as well as fragile (SS2). Both have been relatively rare debuffs until recently, and Megumi has both. Her stun is also underrated and can be spammed since she doesn't need a ton of SP until you are doing an OD3 full debuff on a weak enemy.
We are finally getting enough buffs/debuffs that she is finally getting pushed out of some teams (especially thanks to Higuchi SS2 being OP), but if you need fragile and don't already have it she is your girl.
What a coincidence. I can sorta make Fire (MC, Karen, Yukki, Tsukasa), Light (MC, Kura, Yuina, Miya) and Dark (Shiki, Iroha, Misato, Monaka) teams but have jack shit for ice (Bungo, Mari) and elec (Ichigo, Sumomo).
Technically I have a ninja girl as well, but she's fake ice.
So, after this update lightning is only lacking the proper attacks. Potential upcoming styles: >31X, 30G alts, 31A 2nd alts
Ice is lacking literally everything, but the field skill. Upcoming styles >Ichigo, Byakko, Aoi(?) alts, I guess...
Managed to hit 180k on the score attack just before it closes, thanks to everyone’s increased level caps. Unfortunately I think I farmed the event prism too much and I’ll have way too many medals after the rewards from the upcoming score attack.
https://twitter.com/hbr_official_tw/status/1603336081252179970
They expanded a bit on the different languages thing. Even though they will be synced there will still be region-based servers, people can pick the server when they launch the app for the first time. Everyone who play on JP right now will be able to change the language, but they will still remain JP.
I assume it's primarily for the regional regulations/payment options, but this also means they can give them different free gibs or additional banners to compensate for the late start.
It's not like anyone starting in JP gets that either though.
The game should function regardless, and with the recent changes, I don't see much of an issue. Outside of whale issues, but if you want to whale, then you simply have to whale a little harder. The Japanese whales have been whaling for almost a year, so it's obviously gonna be hard on the money at first.
>It's not like anyone starting in JP gets that either though.
JP will most likely start doing special newbie campaigns later at some point, gachas do these when they stop considering themselves "new". But the difference is that when starting on JP you know you're starting on a server that's almost a year old, but KR an TW are supposed to be "new", even if the content is updated. I'm not talking about them getting some super compensations or anything, but more like their updated version of the starter banners JP had instead of just whatever banner JP will have at the moment and nothing else, or like getting their own 100 days campaign when it happens, this kind of stuff.
She should be a buffer like Shiki. Also she is the first victim. When Shiki was released I already said there will be more poor souls that get absolutely trash SS like Shiki's. Wakki alt is the first victim, sharing the banner with an actually really good SS.
Unless you have nothing better, a light/dark team will look like this:
-Buffer (Higuchi alt if possible)
-field
-Healer/sustain (i.e. Yanagi)
-Hisame
-2 sources for damage, ideally a Breaker and Blaster.
Of course for simple prism fights overkill, but yeah. The offensive ult buff is so fricking bad. It's way worse than even a simple enhance. Of course, for memes (aka maximize one chars damage) it's fine. In dark's case you can ditch Higuchi alt and in theory take Shiki, as Shiki can enhance and Iroha can also enhance. (don't)
But for light this doesn't even work. The light field user is not a buffer, neither is Wakki's A / S. The SS's labeling is weird so far, but whatsoever.
If you beat floor 40 of the new dungeon you get an SS ticket for 1 of the first 12 units. You also get quartz at increments for beating up to certain floors. The dungeon maps v
https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/487230
Orbs are a meme except for crit orb if you don't have Seira and/or you want to score higher than 120k at score attack for whatever reason
No, you don't get the SS ticket. You need to do several weekend bosses, which is the much bigger issue and most people don't touch this content. And honestly I don't see that changing anytime soon. That content isn't for anyone who's not spending quite a bit of money.
get orb
equip orb
equip orb skill
fight orb boss with orb on
get orb points to 100
now character has orb skill without orb
but only 2 orb skills are worth getting
also takes long time to get orb points to 100
better to just get more orbs
orb
Feeler is particularly tough because it has a frickton of health. If you know its attack pattern you can safely buff whenever it uses its debuff gas.
The last times I succeeded I stocked up to OD3, then broke its DP with about 5 or 6 ultis. It won’t restore its DP after it breaks, so you can build up the damage multiplier to 999%, and hopefully by then you’ll have OD3 again and enough ulti charges to finish it off.
If it helps, you might want to farm the growth dungeon for more stats over the next few days.
The stepup scam only gave me the guarantee. Again. The last with free quartz wasn't better.
Anyways, I got a new Higuchi vanilla. With that I literally have ALL fields. Also another buffer SS. Now I only lack Tsukasa alt and Seira. This game throws way too many buffers on me, seriously.
Well, don't want to complain too much. My only elec sources are Ichigo and Sumomo lb0, but it could be worse. Like ice. Only "I never hit anyways" Bungo and "I'm actually not ice LUL" Ninja girl. Plus all these 1 hit only ultis are actually not that bad with Higuchi alt's ult.
The level cap isn't even in full effect yet, and this is a 5 turn 94+35 score attack. Damn son. Normally I don't care about more than 91+35, but after almost oneshotting that with a Karen ult I figured I try a few levels higher. And she's only level 108/120. On max level, who knows, maybe it IS a oneshot against the 91.
This is Yuina's ultimate on the plant with 2 Higumin dopings, 1 charge from Yanagi, 2 Higumin ult defense debuffs on the boss (I got pretty lucky there), 2 Fragile debuffs from Megumi, 999% DR and a crit. What more do I need to reach truly stupid numbers?
This is mine.
Hisame 2x Light Defense Down
Megumi 2x Defense Down
Megumi 2x Fragile
Miya Light zone
Higuchi SS2 2xUlt (2x Doping, 2x +30% crit damage)
You can add Wakki or Minori as a 6th member to get even more damage.
Thanks. I keep forgetting about field effects, but I only have Tsukasa and Higuchi to use there. Out of those I only could have used Hisame myself. I've been rolling for Wakki, but it just gave me another Yuina.
Meanwhile I have all fields, but nothing much to use them with..
But whatsoever. At least I can QED now. It's fun killing the maxed anima sphere turn 2, before it ever attacked.
This is mine.
Hisame 2x Light Defense Down
Megumi 2x Defense Down
Megumi 2x Fragile
Miya Light zone
Higuchi SS2 2xUlt (2x Doping, 2x +30% crit damage)
You can add Wakki or Minori as a 6th member to get even more damage.
Forgot image. I also have much higher stats at LB2.
I remembered seeing it had a higher maximum reduction, but I must have imagined it. I ran out of SP after 2 and got lucky because she also has a chance of applying an attack debuff instead. The damage calculation spreadsheet also only takes 2 debuffs each into account, so I don't know if more do anything.
>Max of 2 stacks?
Yes, most debuffs stack 2 times, a few 1 (like misfortune). >Does the defence down from Higuchi’s ulti have a greater effect than others?
It's the highest, which is similar for other single target defense down like Miko's 4SP skill or Megumi's 8SP skill. AoE debuff down like Miko's ult are lower.
Meanwhile I have all fields, but nothing much to use them with..
But whatsoever. At least I can QED now. It's fun killing the maxed anima sphere turn 2, before it ever attacked.
LB2 Monaka. Surprised I got anything. My luck is still hilariously bad. I think my account's SS rate is a pretty stable 1.5% for quite some months now.
Are orbs other than the crit orb actually worth it? Looking at the benefits, really only the attack buff doesn't sound like a waste of time. I've seen people praise the OD increase skill, but 15% feels about the same as what two triple hits do.
Let alone shuttle running. Not like that's required, but if you want to farm elemental dungeons, shuttle running is actually a better thing to do, as it has much more impact. Unless you do it for accessory slot materials. But the 10% bonus damage from the accs for their element pails against the 20-50% bonus damage you can get by maxing your ults/buffs.
Luckily steam exists.
So, do you think there's any deeper meaning behind them having Karen VA as a guest for the event stream? Like
1. Karen is getting the first SS3 style(not counting Ruka's bonus pseudo SS)
2. The event is Karen focused somehow
3. Or they just called her because why not
Their existence becomes a lot more tolerable when you realise it's just one of their ways of monitoring how good players' squads are. The rewards are also so minimal that you can easily skip them. I've run out of characters I could or want to spend nordstroms on, so I'm not gonna go out of my way to do them for the foreseeable future.
I think it depends on how the new servers will do. The way they described it in the recent interview about them, first they waited half a year until the game stabilized before even thinking about the other servers. Then they decided to try to launch servers in the Asian countries close to Japan. So, the global server is probably morel like a final boss-level project for them.
I really do wonder how a non-waifu, non-coomer, non-pvp, turn-based rpg, yurige, mobage would do on global. If even a game like Magia Record got axed in 1 year, the prospects don't look good. And they even had Aniplex bux to work with. Then again Another Eden is still alive somehow
Bad. Especially if they handle it like Another Eden.
Right now I pay about 70euro for a 10k quartz package, maybe a little less. Given how Another Eden works, I'd be paying what, 120 for a global version? Another Eden at least has the steam version which is USD only, so you don't have to pay the horrendously inflated euro prices on mobile that they introduced some months ago. It'd still be quite a bit more though I think.
HBR is really expensive if they'd do what a lot of other gacha do. People wouldn't buy anything. Not like Europe is the biggest gacha spending market, it really isn't. But still, even for other countries that'd be falling under global it'd be pretty expensive. And unlike Another Eden, where you can play the entire game with freely obtainable units and the gacha is relatively optional.. you can't say that about HBR.
I really don't think HBR is a good idea until 2 seasons of anime aired and those anime are a huge hit. Unless you basically become Fate, tough luck.
There are only 6 SSes I want, 9 counting currently released SS2s, and I just got dupes for two of them. Pretty damn happy. Just not sure if I should spend 10 SS tokens on bringing Higumin 1 to LB3...
HBR ruined my christmas. My insanely bad luck continues. Not only does it tease with a random additional SS after all the fricking nothing in the world I always get, no, both SS are out of the 3 SS in the game that are utterly useless to me. How in the world is that even possible.
I'd take anything new. I'd take any dupe, just not vanilla Yukki (absolutely fricking garbage, aside of having had already lb2), Misato (same, but lb0) or MC fire (would change literally nothing as I have her alt at lb1, vanilla at lb0). And of course both roll into that.
Sometimes I feel like this game doesn't want me to play, and at the same time I know that this shit happens to newer people as well. If they pull this absolute trash called vanilla Yukki or Misato, they basically haven't pulled an SS. If you still struggle with the story, this is absolutely game ruining.
Honestly, raising the level cap and giving out entirely random SS when the pool is so full of not useable garbage isn't going to help people that struggle because they get those. What we really need is actually something that allows people to get the GOOD and USEFUL stuff. Every time I see these completely useless SS pop up I get sad for newer people, and remember the times where I needed specific stuff to not be bricked anymore. Luckily those times are over. Luckily I do no longer needs something specific. But frick is it not nice memories and not nice for new people playing.
The level cap raise is very important. But it does jack shit when all you have is shit like Misato or vanilla Yukki.
Kozue would be a lot better if her ult wasn't needlessly nerfed, but she's still a mainstay in my party. Prisms and dungeons are only a means to an end, not least because of just how many tickets you get every month, so I'd definitely be less happy with something that facilitates those than I would be with a Kozue dupe.
We're definitely starting to reach that point where the game has so many SSes that it's hard to be excited about getting one if it's not likely to be a good fit for your plans. At least with the level buff there's next to no reason to care right now, but that could easily change again in 4.2.
Me neither. And I don't even try. I log in for one week per month to clear out the new event. I do the score attack on auto. I ignore the weekend hard boss. I ignore the orb bosses. I probably ignore several other things I'm not even aware of the existence of.
If the next main story boss kicks my ass, THEN I'll learn the bare minimum I need.
Just focus on the stats that the character scales highest with, or whichever their skill scales with. For buffers you can mix in some defense. For rotations, I guess that's the gameplay aspect that you have to figure out yourself.
don't tell me she wants to meet Megumi already. I thought we were saving that for 4.2. Also if korea and china are launching in January, then they won't even be able to play the event unless they rush 4.1 lol
I don't know, even though it sounds like this, I kinda doubt they will do a latest chapter locked event for NY. Maybe she's talking to whoever other sqaud girl is partnering 31a in this event like Sumomo was in the swimsuit one.
I guess it could be about Akari and her senpai. It'd be pretty funny if she was the person they were referring to on stream. Though Tama really doesn't interact outside of 31A. She only had one interaction with Aina I think. Then again it could just be another Karen-chan Iroha deal
A chapter 4 locked event combined with some "free quartz for clearing 4.1" sort of a campaign before anni+4.2 and after the recent level cap changes would actually be a smart thing to do, I just don't know if New Years out of all dates is a good place for that.
>Also if korea and china are launching in January,
They're having a short beta test in January, so probably not. I think they will try to launch it on the same day as JP anni unless there's any problems, so it makes the whole synced servers thing to work even better.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1608025091190710274
They also got Tama's VA as a stream guest, so maybe the Karen's one was actually invited "just because they can".
Weirdly it looks like the update is not yet live on Steam, either that or some other weird thing is going on. Looks like the ability to use is than one life for a prism fight is finally in-game.
Lmao, and some extremely naive people actually thought they wouldn't do it. I hope Megumi will get an actual ult on her next alt, third time's the charm.
Datamine anon, if you're here and you're not managing to get the latest song, try redownloading the latest version of the plugin. A lot of stuff seems inaccessible this time around, but that works at least.
I wonder why is there only one style, this Mari S literally could have been an another alt. What's the point of these unique models S alts anyway, people are going to replace it with the SS style the moment they can do that.
I mean, people were predicting a new 31a alt, so it isn't a complete enigma. You can probably also safely assume the anni 31a alt is either Ruka, Megumi or Karen.
I don't think they will do it for proper alts, but they can at least do it so the default styles can use the alt S models or something, otherwise they should just stop wasting the 3d artists time on it, it's fricking silly.
I booted up the Bluestacks instance I used for it the other day and the title music gave me way more nostalgia than I ever expected. I'm still amazed we managed to keep up a general on /vg/ and not here.
Wish they would just let you do the event boss without doing the story like they do with score attack, since I don't usually have time to read it all the night it releases, especially on the longer stories
That was an interesting story I guess...?
I mean at the end of the day it was just a gag event and the mermaid thing doesn't really play a part in the greater story - yet? Really nothing too much of note except for another fantasy element that puts the validity of the world into question. Also Yuki seeing the game over screen is most likely meant to be taken as a joke, but she seems pretty convinced
EOP here, is there a way to read this game's story in real time while playing through it with a software or something?
Ideally not screenshotting every line and having it ran through an image translator, as it takes too long and the switching between apps disrupt the flow.
>What was even the point of the 4.1/4.2 split?
It's a plot split, not the content split. It's basically 4 and 5 content/development-wise, but the story will most likely continue with the Megumi stuff and close the arc.
I don't dislike the mermaid stuff as much as the 5ch schizos, but I think it would be really nice if this event was a comedy one without muh serious plot at all, just some pure filler content about them surviving. They don't need to come up with some serious business every single month, it's fine.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jun_lowguy/status/1608799950158331907
I feel like the guy he is responding to is doomposting a bit hard, the event scripts have always been weaker than the main story. But then Maeda just agrees with him that it's going to be bad?
https://mobile.twitter.com/jun_lowguy/status/1608799950158331907
I feel like the guy he is responding to is doomposting a bit hard, the event scripts have always been weaker than the main story. But then Maeda just agrees with him that it's going to be bad?
If he's already like this now, then I can't imagine the monthly event system being sustainable in the future.
I think their main mistake behind this anger about the chapter delay(I don't know if you can call this a "delay", it was probably always supposed to be like that) isn't the general event quality or whatever the frick, but the Iroha interlude. They put it exactly in the middle, it was supposed to give everyone enough main story material so they could sustain themselves until 4.2. But it wasn't enough, it felt more like a random event really.
There is zero way the event boss rated at 15k power is actually 15k. Or that number is completely misleading because the DIY arena boss at 14.6k takes me 3 turns while it took every crit and ult I had just to shave off 1/3 of this thing's health.
Apparently its stats are preeeetty high. Also the difference between the battle power number and "real" power changes a lot based on your party formation.
It's either Mari or Nikaido for me. Mari because the backstory was just ridiculous and tacked on and Nikaido because the whole thing was boring from start to finish, though at least that one had a good song. That Day's Friend was also really bad for its terrible cliches and it burying Kojue's character
Eh, this one is right down there with Yuina's in the lowest tier, maybe with the first half of the swimsuit event joining them too. Maeda's usual repetitive brand of humor got old many months ago, and that hurts the game even more than the desperate need to have almost every monthly event have a sad twist. The real gems are in the memory events and have been for a long time now.
>Maeda's usual repetitive brand of humor got old many months ago
I had a blast through the comedy part of this event, would love to see it in the anime form(never happening).
I loved the Swimsuit event, but this one managed to even piss me off. I was sick of Yuki's screaming game over routine after the 3rd time, and then they did it 6 more times.
The double game over with Megumi was great and the joke about Ruka's seraph in the game over screen. Personally liked the comedy a lot this time but i can see why people want more connection to the main story and or fleshing out side characters. Most important scene this event was Yuki sniffing Ruka's armpits.
As for the Mermaid part. Anything revolving this type of romance is hard to do with the current characters. My guess is that Maeda got inspired by the general idea of and just forced it into Heavens burn Which might also be why he's taking this one personal. Main problem is that it's just two literal who characters + Tama who's just being a nice girl. When one of them is >male in a Yuri game and the other is a mermaid hag that gets more uppity after every meeting, i can see why nobody really cares. I do quite like the premise.
>I was sick of Yuki's screaming game over routine after the 3rd time, and then they did it 6 more times.
I feel like they really liked how the TROPICAL gag turned out and how well people reacted to it, so they tried to force a new one just like that. But outside of Yuki's screeching, I actually really liked the gag itself, their "dying" voices were funny as shit, how Tama died multiple times in a row, how Ruka and Megumi stopped hiding/making fire just to appear in the reaction frame, some of their justifications for it, like Meugumi saying she's dying because "she's a delicate lady", it was really nice.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I guess for me what it comes down to is that her tsukkomi routine so rarely is part of what's actually funny. The funny bits already happened and then there's Yuki screaming about it. Meanwhile in the swimsuit event it was the source of the comedy with the highlight when everyone was taking turns screaming at ghosts and Karen-chan just going よっ! in the middle of it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
japanese people genetically can only laugh at jokes after the tsukkomi, it's necessary
>who didn't even @ him
The 2nd one kinda did, it was a quote reply to his post. Honestly, I have no idea why he even reacted, if the first one was just a random guy, the second one was such an obvious hysterical over the top doomposter, I have no idea how can one be in the industry for 20+ years and still give even a bit of their attention to these types.
I'm completely lost as to why he reacted to the first guy too. It was just some random person tweeting with the hashtag. I think the tweet even had only 1 like at the time or something.
>but yuki having to be a tsukkomi bot is overarchingly annoying
This is an issue with the current comedy setup, it's a bit weird. In 31A Yuki is supposed to be the main tsukkomi and Megumi is supposed to be the secondary tsukkomi. But... Megumi is also the main punching bag of the group and a major comic relief character, so she never really gets to tsukkomi and let Yuki chill a bit and do something else in these events. If you look at the movie event where she was alone tsukkomi'ng all the moronation happening around her, it's a completely different dynamic that we don't get to see in 31A events.
I really like Megumi's tsukkomi, especially compared to Yuki. Like all the gags with her psychic meditation. When she raises her voice it's because she's actually pissed at people whereas Yuki just does it.
The scam was another useless ss1 dupe and nothing else, the new SS is now a second alt causing more issues with the alt system and is very meh on top of it. Thunder just sucks, because Higuchi is busy giving out her drug and doesn't have SP to use the field. Any other element is basically automatically better/faster so you can use her alt's ult more, if you have it of course. Also the banner is shit with only 1 rate up of 0.75%.
The event was meh, enjoyable enough character interactions but I still don't think you should make events like this past 4.1 anymore. Simply leaving out "humanity" or "humans" as a main topic would be enough already, but this is the second time I feel like it's really weird.
The difficulty settings are interesting, but the hardest one had zero balance in it, with the boss dealing 10 times the damage of normal enemies and being way overtuned. Yeah, sure, you don't need to beat it, but that's just fricking boring. No warning. Shitty cooking with bad effects you pick up because why not. Then that? At least the rewards are completely irrelevant. I hope they stop putting that crap into a fricking story event. Who the hell wants to replay that.
The event farm boss is still capped at SS level, so no exp or more coins.
An extremely weak way to end the year. In every single possible way. Even the stacked prism battles are kinda shit because a stacked battle only counts as 1 battle. This means the weekly is a pain now and you don't even save time. In fact, stacking prism battles means you gotta go into a dungeon, spending more time on the game than if you just did prism battles one by one.
In light of the upcoming ani I can forgive this, but this was really underwhelming. The Bungo and Wakki christmas thing was better than all of this.
Yes, unfortunately I forgot to screenshot. I lost the first battle because I accidentally forgot to equip a booster on one character, but still handily beat the boss. I got A rank, it was around 140 or 150k? The one before getting the gems.
Well I chose nightmare when I probably shouldn't have, thinking I might be able to change difficulty later (you can't as far as I can see). If you fail the fight, they just say "oh no, we lost on the last day! ok, time for sleep" and then it continues as normal
I only had 140k score which got me an A, and the counter showed I took 70+ turns because I was using some random leftover team. Where can you check the rewards for higher scores?
From what I remember, there's a small button next to the pink one for the event. I think you only really get gems, diamonds and another skill guide, so nothing important.
I'm surprised they never said anything about her when the other games like Uma have already announced her replacements. Maybe they struck some deal where she still voices stuff for them, she doesn't really need to ever visit any live events or anything for this role and it's never that much to record.
Cleared it two times and both counted towards the ssr ticket mission. That part of should be easy now as long as death slug is in town.
Also they changed the accessory slot reroll screen, which makes rerollling faster.
It does require clearing the dungeon portion once before it lets you skip, but with Death Slug that's easy enough. I'm still stuck with the floor 40 part of the dungeon though, but I haven't tried since the level readjustment, so it hopefully will be a bit more manageable now.
Up to and including 45, no problem. Just keep your damage types spread and let all offensive chars have aoe ultis, ideally some non elemental and/or not dark/light towards the end. I did that today. The last 5... require likely at the very least lb2 on anyone wanting to be in the front, and the offensive chars kinda need both aoe and elemental single target.. or be someone like Monaka. (very strong aoe non ulti)
It's a lot easier now, yes. I've never gone any lower than 37 when starting from 46 due to having next to no aoe ults, but the slug was a total cakewalk when I last tried it with LB1s. Just prepare OD3 and 20SP in advance, which you should easily be able to get on your way there.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1609211161916116992 >blah blah blah we're finishing 4.2, so wait a little bit more
Can they just honestly say they're delaying it until the anni?
It's not the greatest deal. I think they realized that people liked those 5k packages with bonus SS from one group, and figured to take 10k this time, and not giving you any quartz.
It's not the worst deal either, but yeah. The scam's 9 normal pulls having the full SS pool is also garbage.
The medium offer is kinda okay, but I don't really like those generic pool pull tickets. If those would be valid for banners, okay. But they sure aren't.
Stop playing on auto there if you want to preserve dungeon energy at all. The auto AI is clinically moronic and only advisable for fights that don't cost anything if you fail.
Eh you can use auto in hoju, but you need to be appropriately powerful, have the right team for it, and select the right path for it. Well, except for the bosses. Those kinda need to be manual.
If you have life, you can trade 1 life for 30 energy. If you aren't caring about life, then that's a way to extend your stay.
But especially the later floors basically require you to use aoe ultimates in a smart way, both to charge your OD gauge as well as to kill relatively fast. Auto will never be efficient. You'd need to build a very strong and foolproof party for a specific dungeon part. And have plenty of LB on everyone.
>Tamamo poo poo Seira
Hmm I don't like this. If we're going by how they approached Higuchi and her alt, we might be looking at another Space Higuchi. Or it can just be a useless ice +80% buffer for ice teams
It's shown in their next tweet. She's has an Ice version of Ichiko's Ult. I'm more surprised that we can see her eyes clearly now. I like her design, and I think she can make my Ice team much more viable if I get her. I'm still hoping to get Ichiko though.
That's a relief. I was worried that I'd have to buy more quartz before anniversary and the soon to be Sharo event. Though I guess this is technically the 2nd New Years pick up. They could've easily just bundled this with the Tama gacha since double rate ups and single rate ups still have the SS at a 0.75 rate.
>They could've easily just bundled this with the Tama gacha
Maybe it just wasn't ready at the time, so they delayed it for a week. If seraph.day doesn't lie, it seems her alt seraph has the same prefix as Tama, so they were clearly intended to be a set.
They both also end on the 31st. I wouldn't be surprised if they were instead testing the waters to see how much 0.75% bull they could get away with before the anniversary.
Ice REALLY needed that, it's kinda fricked right now
For single target only
Atk+50|DP+50|Buff+80|Deb+60|Field+50 >Fire: N,Y,Y,Y,Y >Ice: N,N,N,N,Y >Elec: N,N,N,Y,Y >Light: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y >Dark: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
Ice and Elec really falling behind
So, after this update lightning is only lacking the proper attacks. Potential upcoming styles: >31X, 30G alts, 31A 2nd alts
Ice is lacking literally everything, but the field skill. Upcoming styles >Ichigo, Byakko, Aoi(?) alts, I guess...
Plus, their initial squad element is ice and her initial style was non-element neutral, so it isn't even that off. Now, just give a proper ST ice debuff to like SS2 Megumi(or just S2?) or Sharo or whatever and it's more or less tolerable to use.
I'll happily take an element being temporarily fricked over cross-squad cross-SS2 synergy being thrown out the window. Aoi could've easily gotten this on her SS2 next month instead.
In hindsight, yeah, if anything the closer thing to a pattern that we have is SS2s for nonelem SS1s inheriting the element of the rest of the squad's SS1s, which Seira2 matches. It's just frustrating if you don't care about the meta but do care about running full squads. Wakki2 is going to be massively out of place for a while.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The issue with this entire idea is that most of the essential elemental abilities were already given to the members of the initial squads, so releasing a new wave of characters doing the exact same thing would be fairly silly and kinda bad business. This is basically unsolvable until they will introduce a bunch of new viable elemental effects doing something new. That's probably also the reason why they're filling out the remaining holes before going into the new shit, we got the remaining light, lightning and ice buffs back to back one after the other.
1 year ago
Anonymous
What will Chie get, I was hoping she would get the same Ichiko/Seira buff but for light. I hope Wakki didn't displace her from getting that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
She'll get the Niina buff but for light-ning
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't know if I want to speculate about the new abilities before 4.2 hits, I get the feeling this is where they will introduce some new mechanics that will open the door for the new tools to deal with them. >I hope Wakki didn't displace her from getting that.
She most likely did.
I mean, it's an okay for an alt of one of the most useful characters in the game to be a sidegrade. She's not like some other characters who don't have an ult or even don't have any purpose at all.
Maybe her first SS set the bar too high for me, but I would have preferred a buff that's not restricted to one element. Those feel like endgame luxuries that get you 8-digit damage numbers instead of 7-digit ones while her first SS is useful everywhere. Or maybe some self-recovery with her attack skill.
To be fair, her first SS WAS useful. It's pretty much made unnecessary by now. She's an alright ice defender, that's more useful than her base SS is at this point. And it's better than what elec, light and dark have, as those have the buff on attacks, aka it doesn't scale with level.
That said, I'm still not liking them throwing out completely unneeded alts, when so many chars don't even have any SS yet.
>so many chars don't even have any SS yet.
Less than 10 and some of them are clearly being saved for the upcoming events that will happen relatively soon.
Just under a 5th. 31X is all but guaranteed to get something next month, but that's still not good 11 months in.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>but that's still not good 11 months in.
Uma Musume still have characters from release not being available 2 years in while making available some random new characters they revealed a few months before adding. WFS actually could stall this roster much, MUCH longer than they did, considering there's nothing but just alts left when the last og SS gets added, they're actually much faster than I thought they would be.
When the boss doesn't live long enough for your boss kill team to come in. It was easier than I thought. I basically used the entire 31-A, without Megumi, but instead YunYun. And that was fricking awful in the little dungeon part. Those fricking blunt weak enemies. Holy shit.
Rip boss team though. It was.. slightly based around abusing a weakness.
>How do you feel about the latest event?
I spent more time thinking about Megumi being unfazed by the life drain, was it foreshadowing or not and what it could mean than about the actual plot of the event.
I just thought her psychic powers gave her some sort of natural resistance to spooky powers. There could be more to it, but this isn't a story event. I doubt they'd drop a big hint to her being inherently different in an optional event.
That's how I felt about that as well. Maeda tends to drop these "I might use these in the future? maybe? maybe not? I guess they're there now" breadcrumbs in events that don't require you to have done the latest chapter, and usually they're pretty irrelevant or at most a bit of an (unnecessary) explanation for eventual events. I stopped caring about them months ago.
>I doubt they'd drop a big hint to her being inherently different in an optional event.
It depends. Like the Jeanne d'Arc stuff in Yuina event wasn't directly confirmed because it's something you don't want people to casually skip in an optional event, but they winked at you so hard with it, it most likely is relevant.
But in this specific case I'm more interested because I want to learn more about the whole supernatural system of this world. Cancer magic, narby magic, seraphs, human psychics, spooky ghosts, all this stuff. I'm getting the feeling he actually thought about how it all properly connects, like it's not just random irrelevant shit slapped together.
It could also be foreshadowing for 4,1 itself instead of something extra.
I still need 4000 quartz for my Koju
Reindeer Byakko alt
ナイスハッキング!!
Okay, so if you want an unironic spoiler for 4.2, Megumi either returns or gets a bunch of flashbacks with the scenes we haven't seen before.
Source: Her VA who is apparently allowed to say that Megumi got a bunch of tsukkomi sperg scenes in it, so maybe it wasn't a mystery in the first place.
Here's the vod at 1:14:02 https://youtu.be/FxoNskfTmfY?t=4442
Is this actually about the main story and not an event? It would make sense that she doesn't just disappear halfway through a chapter, but I just wanna make sure.
She said 4章後半, there's not a lot of ways to parse it.
Or she's moved into one of the domes and joined a comedy troupe.
really want the new niina but i don't have any quartz...
don't worry you get 0.75% every day to get her
>doing the ooshima sisters' event
>only have their basic a rank styles
this is fricking annoying aiiiieeeeee
I was looking at the new styles on the seraph website and... did they both got new effects that weren't in the game before? Mind Eye and Destruction Rate Up, I don't remember seeing either of these on anyone.
They're new. Mind Eye is pretty good if it wasn't on her. The destruction rate up skill, I still think destruction is a meme unless you're doing score attack. I guess she can replace fire Karen if fire teams are still using her
It doesn't really do anything though, as you only use one blaster. Usually. For non blasters the 50% increase does nothing. It basically just makes the new blaster on par with Kura. Of course, if you ever were to use two blasters.... Kura would be getting nuts. Over 30 base destruction.
if you have sex with ghost koju can you see your dick inside of her like those transparent onaholes?
Do you think they will do a meme Christmas event with the Santa alts in December or not?
I hope not. I feel swimsuits are already out of place, imagine santa suits. I mean reindeer Yukki would be nice, but I'd like to not have such styles, just some event.
It's actually more likely to get a new year's event though. That's more Japan. Yukki's alt is already kinda that though. Maybe some other chars get that style. Let's just hope it's not as broken as a certain new years cat or brat in other games..
Yukki's alt was a yukata, not a kimono.
all yukatas are kimonos
>I feel swimsuits are already out of place, imagine santa suits.
I mean, there's also mahou shoujo Tama and red hood Karen-chan, alts aren't canon anyway, at least for now.
I want Tezuka in a sexy santa outfit and Nanamin with antlers and a red nose.
Well Koju and Higumin were kind of Halloweenish but not entirely. So maybe Christmas will be similar.
whew. christ. i haven't choked up like this over a video game in a while. hope the game continues to bring this level of quality as i get caught up on the main story and other events.
This event was really nice. I also noticed looking in the gallery that it got a lot more CGs than typical.
How do I get stronger in this game? My main team only has 5k power and I'm recommended to be at at least 9k before I do the My Little Hero event. Do I get more stuff to upgrade with if I progress the story more? Only done main chapter 1 so far.
You'll get so many more options to upgrade your team that you won't know how to spend your lives for weeks. The first three accessory slots go up to 6 stars, the fourth so far only to 5 stars and the last one is reserved for style-specific accessories. Dungeons and boss battles will open up if you proceed with the main story. If you do the main dungeon as far it lets you and use the accessories in the main story, then it'll do a good job of keeping you on your toes. That dungeon and the three prism bosses were pretty much all we had when chapter 3 was out, so you should be able to do it with just those, too. The chapter 3 boss is even easier now than it used to be.
Afterwards you can take some time to do events, get their S styles so the characters' level caps go up to 110, do other prism bosses to forge 6* earrings and bracers, do the elemental dungeons for 6* rings, maybe fight an orb boss a few times, etc. Don't neglect Nanamin's arena overnight either so you can keep upgrading styles.
Wow, thanks for the writeups, I appreciate that.
And for raising my Six Sense, do I really just have to replay each day 9 times so I can choose every option?
Its on option if you want to see every main story dialogue and don't want to spend life, but just doing the six sense events during free time ( like going to the library) is your best bet if you want to raise it proactively. They update every chapter so just seeing all unique mini events once is enough to keep up for the most of it. This does cost life.
Also another way to upgrade your units that hasn't been mentioned yet; get the souls of your ssr styles from memory restoration. +5 free stats ( some of them you buy from the event stores). You just need 20 of those pyramid you get from the clocktower and prism battles.
Fourth slot just got a 6 star variant. (Luck plus 3 sp at start)
>Levels
Obviously be at the highest level as possible. Don't use arena for proactive exp gain, only use it for passive gain. The best place for exp is the highest difficulty prism battle you can do
>Boosters and Chips
Always buy new boosters and chips when they're available. Though I honestly recommend buying them only when you have trouble (chapter 3 onwards) because they are quite costly. I suggest buying defensive boosters over offensive ones
>Prism battles
Do prism battles, raise your status
>Accessories
Do accessory dungeons. I wouldn't worry about opening slots and rerolling their stats until you get to 5*+ accessories. Also don't farm for accessories that you can make with crafting
>Accessory crafting
Craft them when you can for the extra DP
>Reincarnation, orb
Not really necessary, but you can work on them if you want
>Post game dungeon
As it says, this is for post-game
Got my first 180k in this Score Attack.
Congrats, I wish I had some fire support.
>you need dupes bro, trust me, without dupes you can't get a high score
https://twitter.com/aBNT4gr8I7IRIHP/status/1593220496703000577?t=KF-JmcwIDN9l3fxkFkNjpw&s=19
i still don't have aoi. do i fall for the bait
I have her and everyone in her squad and I'm still considering falling for the bait. If you're into a whole squad, these 0.5x6 banners with no possibility of pulling offrates are easily the best.
Imo aoi is a worse og Tama gameplay-wise. But if you want to be really safe you can bring her with a healer and never die. She's also good for eating up aoe attacks with debuffs I guess
Used my S tickets of the month and did the step up. Nothing. As usual.
Sometimes I wonder if luck can get worse than this. It probably can, but not by much. I suppose that's what's the guaranteed SS was for, but even that was literally nothing and has no use. One more SS buffer that I'll never use. Soon I can do an entire team that does nothing but enhance each other. They just need to add one more, as currently only 5 chars exists.. and I got them all.
Anyone tried flathand? Also got base Koju's 2nd dupe on free rolls, not sure how I feel.
Tried it. I almost killed it but tried to get OD3 instead of sticking with OD2 for the final HP and ended up dying. So I think I should be good for it next attempt, but I'll need to try it later.
I used the first team for the majority. The idea is that Monaka can be both breaker and attacker, and Byakko has great OD gain. Chie/Tama combo to keep everyone alive.
Finally once the second phase is broken, max DR, switch in second team and one shot with Yuina.
I barely managed to beat hard Feeler last week, so I don't think I can beat hard FlatHand with my team yet. I'm also still missing some accessories, so I haven't been using a second team on any of the hard mode bosses either.
jeez literally got 4 byakkos and no one else. Why is the desire sensor so strong... I mean byakkos a good girl but I'm playing for waifus
Is this the first time Flathand is the weekend boss?
Yes.
Vanquished. Looks like I can still save my SS pieces.
I didn't realize the current step up banner uses regular gems. Good thing I checked because I finally got Yanagi.
I love luckshitting SS from free rolls, but why does it have to be dupes from the starter pool?
Can't relate.
I'd much rather have most of those over a lot of the new ones, so I wouldn't be bothered if that happened to me.
And then you'd get something useless like Koju
Joke's on you, full 31B is my main party so that would be even better. Most of the others would be as wasted as the Iroha I got from my last batch of free pulls though.
Still useless
Koju is useless? I recommend to look at her once more. Both versions are broken tier good. Still sad I didn't get her alt, but her base SS made my life a LOT more comfy ever since I have her. The queen of 4.1 (and probably onwards) dungeons, really, and extremely useful in every day to day grind, unless you have a good combo involving a -SP character.
There are definitely useless characters, like the base Yukki, and Shiki SS also deserves a price for being as fricking lackluster as she is. Mari is also terrible as her two moves are enhance and water field, lacking an S to this day to maybe mitigate this. Or how about Misato that needs overdrive, but doesn't generate anything herself, while overdrive itself is also much more of a dungeon concept than anything else, and her ult sure is shit in those.
But Kozue is really fricking good. One of the absolute best supporters.
Not him but what exactly do you see in Kozue that makes her strong in dungeon? She has 1 AoE which has average damage and imprison debuff. It's not terrible, but not exactly great either. Are you just using her ult to give everyone else SP regularly?
Kozue makes 6-7 turn prism fights into 4 turn fights, something only Seira can do. Kozue is also good in new dungeons, as enemies are so tanky you wanna use a lot of ultimates and buffs. Kozue restores your SP to do so. Seira is a lot worse there.
Given that Seira is considered a very high tier char and Kozue is basically a better Seira if you have crit orbs, as she gives your Healer and Buffer also bonus SP, she's a god. Pair her with S Yunyun or Shiki, and go fast.
If I wouldn't have Kozue, new dungeons would take longer. If I didn't have Kozue all my prism battle grinds wouldn't be 4-5 turns, but 6-8 turns. If I didn't have Kozue I couldn't do the new arena fight (where you can farm israeliteels and diamonds) on max difficulty in ~1:20. Sounds EXTREMELY dang good for a support, if you ask me.
The only time she isn't good is if you do overdrive stuff and as such play on stacking buffs and delaying the fight. However in most of the daily content this is only slow and pointless to do. One of the best SS I ever got, that gave me a ton, something only Yanagi managed to do before. And Yanagi is one of the absolute best. Yes, Kozue needs a team to work, but so does literally ever single supporter in the game. Kozue's requirements are however relatively easy to get as it doesn't require gacha luck, unlike for example fields where you NEED gacha luck to get the required attacks.
Seira, Shiki and Yunyun makes all lvl 13 prisms into 3 turns depending on who you have, Koju isn't needed. I don't have any issues with the new arena and dungeons without her too. I just don't see much value in her and feels like a waste of spot in the team. If she's carrying you then good for you I guess.
>depending on who you have
This is what it comes down to with everything. I have no synergy of any kind and almost no LB1+es to speak of outside of thunder, so even though I can normally do 100+35 in score attack most months, the yellow prism usually takes me 10 turns with OD1 and Bungo missing prolonged it to 17 the one time that happened. Kozue does me a world of good for my main line-up so she can't be anything less than top tier for me personally, but her issues are easy to recognize.
I have her and she barely sees use, no space in my team for her. Base Yukki is at least useful for mutliple enemies like the armor crabs and horse prism, she only needs to cast it once. She was my only breaker for a long time until I lb3'd her alt so she did her job just fine. My lb1 Koju is just deadweight.
Mari is fine for now as Yamawaki's enabler, she'll be better with more future ice units.
Koju really only does a handful of things well. Her ult's been nerfed since beta so it's a bit of an expense unless she's LB1 and you always have her out, and the AOE is not the greatest in terms of damage.
That leaves you with thunder support, which she's good at, but you have to choose between her SS1's better stats and her event S's better passive. Thunder is not in a great state in terms of how much utility you can stack for it either, particularly compared to whales and meta players' beloved fire.
Her SS2 doesn't fare much better as there are better sources of Fragile and ice is also weaker than fire, and the misfortune debuff sadly doesn't apply to crits.
I guess she also all but guarantees kills on hoppers, but at this point I imagine most people are starved for reroll acorns rather than unlockers. They don't even exist in the latest dungeon, and even if they did, floor 46 has an extra turn pickup.
I use her LB1 SS1 purely because I like her and have no interest in pulling for better options.
>meta players' beloved fire
Fire is old news. Dark is the new hotness.
Isn't FlatHand this weekend also only weak to light and dark? Even more applicable there. Dark's definitely been getting some good stuff lately.
First phase is weak to all elements, second phase only light and dark. Plus dark has the +70% crit bonus this week too, so yeah it's especially strong right now.
I keep getting S chara and it's sucking up all my fricking luck
>mfw i got the ss ruka on that last banner and her aoe does 20k damage to all enemies
they really were not kidding about the difference in strength between rarities huh
Nope. This game is pretty bad at making lower rarities useful. There are some S that can be used, but not for damage and they are still worse than their SS.
Is this game Japanese only?
Yes. They don't even really want you playing it outside of Japan, you can't even get the mobile version without using third party apps.
You just make a JP Google/app store account
You can just dl the steam version now, that's how i got into the game. But i wouldnt say it's worth playing without being able to understand the story anyway
>hisamecchi's seiyuu is retiring at the end of the year
I don't think I'll be able to recover from this.
I don't care even if they will rerecord all her lines, but damn that guy on youtube is going to seethe.
he seems to be taking it well
>something only Seira can do
lol
She can't do that, unless you are really overpowered. Mind you I have her, but she's not doing anything. A typical case of a whale toy, really.
You don't need her for the prism fights if you use Seira. She's still doing something similar, but of course if you build an entire party around double enhancing + charge and use Seira you get a 1 turn advantage, as you can't use the SP you gain in turn 3 in turn 3. Though this does require a charge buffer (=Shiki) and Field Enhancer (Tsukasa S, Higuchi alt, Iroha) that can live.
Kozue is much better than Seira in dungeons though, and still extremely good for prisms. Without either Seira or Kozue, or the SP- strategy with TONS of firepower, you will take a much longer time. I think Seira doing prisms a little better (with a lot of help) is just fair, when Kozue is actually not entirely trash in dungeons, and in fact pretty good for your SP upkeep. Saves energy, too.
In gacha you generally tier characters based on how fast they make things and how overall useful a char is. HBR isn't exactly a game with massive difficulty and stats are the most important, though obviously elemental teams a good, yet require whaling or good luck in gacha. This is why everything crit is so awesome -> It makes things die a lot faster. SP recovery is the same. Sure it doesn't do anything if you have nothing else, but that's the same with literally anything.
Calling that trash is just completely wrong. That's like calling batteries in counterside trash, TP boost in pricon trash and so on. Kozue is a battery, just like S Yunyun. That is VERY strong.
Sure, there are cases where she doesn't do anything for you, as there are always specific chars that are simply outstanding in a specific field. Being really good in a lot of fields (other than OD strategies, where for example Seira is also trash), is however still good. I think calling that bad is really really wrong. It's like calling Tama's vanilla SS+S trash.
English version never so I have no thoughts about any of it...
Managed to hit 175k on the score attack. Annoyingly close. If I was at 160k I could just be happy with that and call it a day, but now I know there’s a chance I could hit 180k. Bungo missed her ulti once, and half the team didn’t have their styles fully enhanced yet.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1595341391269228545
Next event.
Guess new expressions are as good as ever for helping predict upcoming events.
Yeah, they are. Also, "Muramasa Blade" is a song title not a lot of characters can get for their event.
Think the recent album also leaked the existence of the song even before we got the new expressions. Figured it'd be her turn eventually after seeing that.
Only a genius gunmen could get a song like that
I pray Ruka isn't too involved
Just negated this by hoping the opposite. Too bad.
Re-negated by hoping she won't be. Oops.
Why does it matter when you can't even read it?
So you're the one behind the current event's suckiness
If anything the current event is an exception to the norm because Ruka has decent chemistry with Kozue.
Nah, it sucks
You must be playing a different game because this event was great.
To each their own
Have you used your LB charge yet or are you saving it for 200%? I'm thinking of using it to make either Higumi or Yanagi LB1.
If your charge is at 100+X%, does using it bring you down to X% or 0%? I want to use it on a 31B SS2 once I finally pull one, but if that doesn't happen before I get to 200% then I have no idea who to use it on.
Not that I've tried it, but it says it uses up either 100% or 200%, not the entire gauge. I imagine you can also use it twice in a row if it's at 200% to get a style from LB 0 to 2 and it doesn't just reset to 0 after the first use.
That's how I interpreted it as well. There's not a lot of content right now that requires anything more than well optimized LB1s, but I hope we'll get 4.2 before we reach 200% just in case that stops being true for the main story.
>I hate the gameplay
>I hate the story
>I hate that I can't do whale content as a f2p
No wonder this was voted the worst thread on /vmg/
I hate having to share a board with gachashitters, so it goes both ways. The /u/ thread is quite nice at least.
Koju event was good, fun theme(turning into a ghost) you won't see in this game otherwise, some fun interactions here and there, an okay story, some lore foreshadowing with the spiritual part of the setting and also whatever that Megumi thing was. Now, Yuina event, that was complete filler schlock despite her being one of the most hyped non-31A characters in the game.
I quite enjoyed the Koju event too, but I really hope the next one will be something along the lines of U140 or Carol's event. The mixture of silliness and bringing together 6 mostly random characters has worked pretty well for them so far. The recent serious stuff has been quite hit and miss in comparison and I don't think many would complain if they went with something lighter in preparation for 4.2.
That time spent on Ruka could've been used to give screentime to other characters, not an event I'd revisit.
Great but I'd rather see Ruka and Koju
That's an... interesting upcoming score attack boss. Not sure how Tezuka's gonna feel about that.
Dev dude on stream next week, hopefully he will drop some future stuff teases.
>No Ruka
I'm a genius, already shaping up to be an interesting event.
It's actually kinda silly she doesn't count despite literally having proper swords. I can understand why Megumi, Monaka etc. don't count with their gigantic weapons of mass destruction, but why her.
You mean the same way Tama was unavailable for the U140 event despite being a perfect fit for that event? It just gives others the chance to shine.
If all goes well this could be as good as the Kanata event (best one).
>best one
Pffft.
Hardly my favorite. It unfortunately suffered from having Kanata in it. This one looks pretty promising though.
the best events for me is still the half anniversary swimsuit event and Requiem for the blue. No surprise there since it had the most foundation in terms of main story connection that made it more ripe compared to the other stories.
Funny enough my least favorite is probably Kura's event. Even though just like the two events I mentioned above, it's also closely connected to the main story.
Nothing against Kura, but I just don't like the pacing of that story. And how it shoves the 'sadness' into the readers through Kura's narration that I begin to care less as it goes on and on and on.
I mean, I get it. Her memories and identity is slowly dissappearing but jeez. It was a slog to get through. Also the story being mostly recap doesn't help too. I get the point that it's a recap through Kura's perspective but still..
If we're not getting any teases for 4.2 during one of the next 2 streams, I swear to god.
They have to rewrite the story so Hisame dies. Give it time.
You'll complain about how you hate every character and event even more? Oh no
No, let's praise them for taking 200 years to finish a second part of the same chapter.
>Battle royale
>Not tournament arc
What a missed opportunity. There's no battle royale in bushido!
http://builtruns.jp/comikeplus/
HBR got shilled by the comiket magazine.
Also, some art from the known doujin artists there:
https://twitter.com/Comike_Plus/media
Sadly with the shitty watermarks because it's bonus postcards or something.
Shame about the watermarks. The Kozue image is really good.
https://twitter.com/metako132/status/1596494614902755329
How have I not seen this artist before? This is some wholesome shit.
I didn't think about it before it happened, but them spamming 6 birthday tweets in a row for 31E is so funny for some reason.
It's everyone's birthday
Man of culture.
New update is live, most of the stuff included in it will be available on the 30th though, including the new event. Yuina SA...
>get 4 defender chains in a row
frick this shit. The odds has to be skewed towards defender, healer, and debuffer cause I keep getting them meanwhile attacker and buffer is rare as hell
HBR RNG is very very clumpy. It affects every single part of this game.
-Usually you either encounter no rare encounter or many in a very short amount of time. Shuttle running showcases that very nicely
-If you start getting unlucky with crits, it's usually gonna stay around
-Gacha fricks you over for long times and/or gives you a lot of shit at once with little in between.
It's pretty sad actually, but not too uncommon in the industry. HBR is just one of the more extreme cases where it's easy to see.
Frick I remember those times I got several skill upgrades in one battle, or a upgrades several battles in a row. That happens way more often than it should with the absurdly low chances. And of course it goes both ways. That one ability that upgrades from 1 to 8 in 8 hours? And that other one that gets 0.
I'm not sure if it helps to just stagger out your stuff, but generally speaking: Get used to it.
New song SV0070 and SI0070 and a lot of new cute tomboys in the mega folder now. These are resampled so they fit under Ganker's file size limit. 4 new pose files to follow later
Cute bookworm. Her sword looks like a big club.
New pbz files now up:
Yunyun: Joy, Joy2, Sadness
Maki: higher res but nothing actually new
Maria: LittleJoy, Trouble
Tezuka: Joy2
Has the "Shaggy Staff" model ever been used?
Patch/event up, gotta clear the mission boards again, which includes a couple youtube videos and forging some accessories again
>forced to use certain characters for the event dungeon
I hate it already
I went auto and died to the boss on day 4. I thought it was one of those guaranteed loss battles, but I got a game over and had to restart day 4. Frick.
same, I don't even know how to beat this with such crap team
One step closer to having something resembling a fire party. What did you get from the OG SS ticket?
Rate the event
Love sword autism, love Inorin, love Hisamecchi. Simple as.
How did you beat the day 4 boss?
The day 4 boss is first a scripted loss, and then 2nd part of it, you only have to break the shield, so I just saved SP and used the big skills while managing heals/rotating characters in to save SP
I messed up and had Chiroru break, but Yanagi's base heal does about 80-90% of the bar and is absolutely good enough to keep you afloat. Double enhance on Kanata and Chiroru, followed by the first round of Maki+Chiroru+Kanata ults, then eventually followed by a single enhance + OD1 + Maki, Shiki and Kanata ulting, was more than enough to not only break it, but also take its HP down, so you can definitely be less cautious than that so long as you make liberal use of Yanagi's SP5.
*Love Maruyama feet.
Something like an 8.5 or even a 9. Getting close to the end now, but I love the humor and overall simplicity of the event. I really think the game needs more such events, primarily for the interactions. I also expected to be annoyed by having to use preset parties again, but I felt it added to the experience this time around and I hope they'll follow this formula for future events as well instead of requiring specific power levels.
The constant errors that threw me back to the title screen after a fight are frustrating though. Wonder if that's a Steam issue or a new bug in the latest patch.
Really fun event overall. Standouts would be Fubuki and Hisame. That Hisamegay got a great last supper before she gets iced permanently. There really isn't much to say. I guess if I had to point anything out, Inori's whole spiel and resolution were quite predictable and there was less gags after day 1. I would've loved to see Asamin get punished by Tezuka in the epilogue since she was also great in this event. Maki's memory episode was also one of the best. Now if they wanted to do something insane and extra, It would've been kinda cool if there was a bad ending to the event since the talks in day 2 were optional. I'm just saying, maybe instead of mercy, Inori awakens her hidden psychopathy instead.
Need more Ruka/10
All events need Ruka as the POV
Thought it was a fun little event, nothing too overly dramatic, the bits of comedy were nice. The Day 4 battle royale went about as expected for the winner, but was still funny seeing how it played out.
>fight other girls
NOW THIS IS KINO
>Another Koju SS dupe just when I complained about the last one
Holy shit... this character is getting on my nerves.
Thank god I got Maki right after, killed my frustration instantly.
>Tenne lb2 from paid gacha
Hopefully she'll get an S one day with a debuff skill that's not def.
https://rentry.org/zpe6k
lossless ver is out
Bless, thank you anon.
https://rentry.org/5c58g
This scam was actually worth it. So I can in theory use Mari with her ice field now, and have a friend for Higuchi alt shenanigans.
I'm missing Irocchi and Shiki, but LB3 Chinagumin can make up for my lack of buffs.
One day I want to make a meme party:
Shiki, Iroha, Yanagi, Monaka, Hisame and what was that scaredy cat S style called again? Well, her.
OD bulding with the S + automatic dark damage amp, Shiki, Iroha and Yanagi for buffing/healing, Hisame for debuffs and Monaka for the big bang strike once the DP shield is down.
I could honestly do it. I should even have enough LB mats to get everyone used a LB (Monaka already has one)
But I think that's ultimately still just a meme and when it comes down to it completely pointless for day to day stuff. Not sure if maybe Higuchi alt would be an idea instead of the amping S style, but Monaka needs to buff for 35 SP and then still ult (13 sp) which is gonna take long, so OD building is probably a good idea. Higuchi could however save 10 sp I guess by stacking her buff twice on Monaka... if it stacks.
I kinda wanna do it, but I also hate using SS upgrades on non alts.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1597969224034844673
We won Google Play best of something something.
So. You know that fight right. The fight in the event. I know someone will want to limit test that. I wonder what you'd need at the very least.
Which fight? There are a few you could mean and you can't change your team anyway.
day 3 one ?
The one where people help if you help.
So I was lazy and barely touched the newer dungeon, but now that it's actually required for the SS ticket, are there really any tough spots on the way to floor 40? Only went up to floor 18 and didn't have any problems, so mostly just wondering if there's a jump in difficulty at all
The only real tough spot I've run into is the floor 40 boss. It can fire a multi-hit attack that just eats through full shield and HP on lvl 110 characters as soon as turn 2. You'll probably want to preserve some OD turns for it. Floor 35 has the same kind of boss but weaker. After floor 25 or so elemental attacks really start to matter, so you'll want to bring a range of AoE attackers with elemental damage if you want to arrive at the boss with some energy left.
I'm fine if it's fire or ice, but other elements will be kinda iffy, but I have a bunch of dungeon tickets expiring in my box soon so I guess I can just try to brute force as far as I can if I have to
Fire and ice will be all you need to make it to 40. My farming team for the 36-40 area has Bungo, Wakki, Monaka and Ruka with her swimsuit fire aoe.
Dark is so far ahead of damage now. With both a breaker and attacker that gets +50% against their niche and extra power when charged, not even fire can keep up.
Who's best dark DPS? I just noticed I have not a single dark
Monaka is currently the attacker with the highest possible attack damage (with full tokens). This is both before LB3, but her LB3 is also stronger than all other LB3 bonuses which pushes her further ahead. She's also incredibly versatile because despite being an attacker, she does the same damage to DP and HP.
Inori is really strong as well though, especially if you have an external source of charge.
Shit, not only was the paid quartz scam good, the paid senpai random SS was also good. I got my final senpai, and own now 4 out of 5 field casting SS. The one I lack I have only bad SS for anyways (elec, I only have Higuchi alt)
I honestly expected a e-girlta dupe, because that would've been the worst to get. Not like that's even that bad. Still my only SS defender.
Chie was great in my team for the hard flathand fight. I'd love to get her to LB3.
31 Volume stream bwos
A win for casuals, Level up cap increased
This means event S are no longer so good and at the same time you can't upgrade your SS level cap with S/A easily anymore. That said, if they don't change the difficulty, the game would become very easy now, although I suppose this is for the next chapter that's going to increase the required stats by quite a bit.
I do like that lb1 SS are probably useful now without needing 10 more levels from the S style or something. Probably. It was always weird how a lvl 100 lb1 performs worse than a lvl 110 lb0.
This looks really nice. This actually means that resetting prism battles on bad RNG would be less annoying. Is it finally Bungo's time to shine? Ahaha. Who am I kidding.
This makes A pieces worthless except for max LB stats now. But I guess that's ok.
I find this change quite meaningless. Higher level cap sounds like we’ll get stronger, but they’ll just inflate the enemy stats and we’re back to square one.
I’m glad we’ll be able to spend multiple life points for faster farming though. Wonder if it’ll allow us to spend more than 5 at once.
If anything once they inflate the enemy stats it's just going to end up being a nerf to LB0 SSes. I understand raising the levels and the level cap for SSes, but the changes they've made to As and S-es just takes them out of the equation again and puts them back where they were before the original chapter 3 level buff.
They're inflating it so more people can finish 3 and 4.1 before 4.2 because it's finally kinda coming and the completion stats that were shown on stream are not very promising,
I don't think it's that bad if it's handled correctly.
The current situation is bad for one major reason: new SS are bad. This is a really shitty place to be in, as we very quickly moved into the territory where you NEED lvl 110, or else you can basically forget doing stuff. LB doesn't even matter. lvl 100 lb1 < lvl 110 lb0.
This situation needed change. There's also another reason this needed to change: What are new people going to do? If you play for a while you get your S upgrades eventually, but new people are.. new.
This change will do 2 very important things:
-SS without an S do no longer have massive disadvantages (think Miko, Mari or even some that only have a relatively recent S like Higuchi)
-SS lb1 is no longer weaker than ss lb0 but max lb S.
-SS lb2 also has more value as it bumps the level cap higher than what you can do with S
I'm not sure if they massively bump the stat requirement. Yes, everything gets stronger to an extend, but I feel like a lot of it had to get stronger to deal with the 340 we have now. Easy example Yunyun. She dies turn 2 against hailhorses if they focus her, and there's literally nothing you can do about this. 10 levels will help.
This was a necessary change going forward. It's a really shitty situation to get a new SS and it's unusable because the level cap is garbage and you are only happy about those that have an event S. Now every SS basically has a former event S, and those with an event S still have a bit of an edge, just not as big anymore. If they don't screw up max LB S style supports, this is only positive and much needed going forward.
tl;dr: This should be a LOT better balanced than what we have right now.
Korean and chink versions confirmed, global is getting a bit closer.
We will know once we get 403s.
>global will be behind all 3 versions now
I'm pretty surprised that they put out these two new versions without much fanfare or advertisement. I suppose the gacha culture in the east would make them a success regardless, but I'd be even more surprised if they dumpped the global version in the same manner
>I'm pretty surprised that they put out these two new versions without much fanfare or advertisement.
They both will have their own reveal streams and stuff, it's on their pages
https://kr.heaven-burns-red.com
https://tw.heaven-burns-red.com
They said the December event will be something like the swimsuit event, so we're getting the Christmas event for sure. There was also something about "different" character campaign but I really failed to parse whatever the frick it was about.
Found some people on twitter talking about it, still have no idea what exactly they meant by this.
>これまでとは違う形でキャラクターに関わるキャンペーン
>12月中旬にこれまでとは違った形のキャラクターが関わるキャンペーンをやる
What if its something like adding accessories?
What I got from them talking about 4.2
>They hired more staff to put more effort into the story chapters and up the quality even more
>Script, voice/mocap recording are all done
>Yuugen was asked to design some new non-playable characters
They didn't say that, but I would be really surprised if it isn't an anni release at this point.
It is probably something like that. Some people on JP twitter were guessing collab characters, but I don't think that's correct.
Yes, it isn't a proper event, just a campaign, that's what they meant by
>There was also something about "different" character campaign but I really failed to parse whatever the frick it was about.
Also, a new collab with something.
>Tonedeaf Wakki
Soul
This proves Yuki and Megumi are the most boyish in 31A, pretty cool. It's good to see Kura in there too.
I want to go camping with Monaka.
Is that shampoo that Yuina is buying? I can't believe they couldn't think of anything else for Miya other than a broom that I assume is for some kind of miko cosplay
She's actually breaking them since they aren't traditional Japanese brooms
>Christmas meme event is pretty much confirmed
Do you think it's time for the 2nd wave of 31A alts already or will they hold out a little bit before pulling that out?
I'll trust my gut and say it'll be 31C
I don't even need it to be an SS, but if I don't see Tsukasa in a Santa or reindeer costume, I'll be severely disappointed.
Karen would be perfect as Santa. Karen chan that is. Tsukasa can be the reindeer.
Karen's previous alt was Red Hood, so it would be a bit too visually repetitive, I think. Don't know if they care about it though.
If the main girls get anything in the event I'd probably not be styles anyways.
so limit breaking a and s styles doesn't do anything for the corresponding ss except potentially raise the level cap right? no impact on stats?
Limit breaking only raises the level cap for that character. There are also some non-exclusive stats you can get that apply to all styles, the ones highlighted in red usually at the bottom of an upgrade group.
I don't know if there was an easier source of song titles for the game audio files, so I spent a few hours copying the titles from the OST Vol. 1 and Love Song from the Water to the appropriate mp3 file from the game in the mega folder. Here's just the raw list of filenames and their titles: https://pastebin.com/fGYUTJwd
Since batch re-tagging mp3 files is apparently something every OS needs a separate tool for, here's a Python script that'll apply those same tags if you happen to use Python already. I know it works because in the process of testing it I accidentally wiped all the tags I manually set and recovered them with this. Just install eyed3 first, then save this in the same folder as the mp3s and run it: https://pastebin.com/pxHZwhyz
Songs I couldn't find titles for from the albums:
SB0103
SB0104
SB0107
SV0011
SV0012
SV0061
And any that start with SZ
Eventually I may also reupload all the files with the titles already applied.
And of course immediately a correction. "Aegis Tower bgm" should be called 深層.
Couldn't tell you the titles for the SB files, but it does sound like SB0107 is another variation of After You Sleep.
SV0011 is インドラ
SV0012 is 贅沢な感情
SV0061 is Before I Rise (Acoustic Ver.)
seems like more building up for Yuina imo. Can't wait till she fully remembers who she really is. Not that I fully believed that she's Jeanne D Arc anyway.
Either way, her character might have a full 180 once she regained her memories, like Tsukasa.
People who're pushing for humanity sake are most of the time.. can't be trusted.
With the new missions wanting you to actually do weekend bosses, I figured I'd try one. Game promptly put me into a fricking dungeon and I quit out again.
They could've done this a little less dumb, seriously. I doubt I could do it anyways. Not a whale, no Aoi. And from what I've seen of those enemy stats, there's no fricking hell I can deal with 2k+ aoe damage per turn that these tend to have, if not more.
Speaking of which, they need to do something about healing not scaling whatsoever. Now that more def than the border does nothing anymore, heals being capped so low makes healing more and more worthless.
It feels like healing is stuck half a year in the past. I mean it's fine against content from half a year in the past. But that's it.
>Now that more def than the border does nothing anymore
What do you mean by this? I'm pretty sure that more defense absolutely helps, when do you think this changed?
I can't say if it ever changed because only as of 4.1 this was relevant. It could've been always the case, but in 3 I was under the border anyways.
The entirety of 4.1 was basically that, people even made tests for the bosses showing that going above the border doesn't do anything, and I think any and all content currently works like this, at least boss-wise. Easy example is score attack, where even the lvl 30 one deals damage even though the border is chapter 1 tier. Shuttle running ch3 normal mobs still do 1 damage, but I dunno about bosses in the new ch3.
tl;dr: It should affect any and all current content. They did it so they can keep the border lower yet not lose all challenge. Score attack shows that it works relatively well, as does 4.1.
Someone in this thread claimed this before and so I ran my own tests a few months back. I can clearly see a difference in damage done at various points above the border.
MLB characters are WAY tankier than a character that just meets the border, I only have LB2 here.
That's probably just rng still or your stats of the higher damage is below the border (remember, some things are 2x Con 1x SPR and vice versa). Again, just play score attack. If damage reduction would be a thing past border, the first one should deal 1 damage. It doesn't. The border is 60 till lvl 30.
Unless the game is just inconsistent. Not claiming it's not. But I've not seen any mattering damage difference in all of 4.1 regardless of how much def my chars had as long as it's above the border.
You are still insistent despite providing no screenshots or examples, just "it didn't work for you in 4.1".
So here, as you said I tested it in score attack. You can see the stats for the 3 characters, this is on level 100.
Yuina does a CONx2 attack, so the effective defenses are the following:
Yuina: 383
Ruka: 353
Tama: 290 (exactly at border)
Each has the same starting DP, 3004. I ran 3 damage tests and you can see that every single time, Yuina took the least damage, then Ruka, then Tama. Further, look here for the enemy stats:
https://www.seraph.day/enemies/Enemy_YShirakawa_scoreattack_d
AoE min damage is 350, multiplied by 3.2 because it's level 100. So 1120 damage, which if you subtract from 3004 is 1884 leftover DP before RNG. Notice how that's really close to Tama's DP?
If you want to assert anything else (including "it's inconsistent") then provide screenshots and evidence.
Damage reduction does occur with stats past the border. Pic is my team's damage at Level 30 with everyone's defense at around 320. The Effect Parameter Cap is what determines the necessary stats needed to reduce the damage to 1, but with Score Attack it's not as straight forward. Since the border and stats don't change between SA Level 1 and Level 30, that means the Effect Parameter Cap is what changes between levels, which is why my team takes >1 damage from attacks, but it's not the roughly 350/800 you're implying I would be taking. I can go up to around level 12 before I start taking more than 1 damage.
Could be. It would explain why having 20 more defense does nothing against pretty much any boss.
That also explains how you can possibly live against some of the more nasty things like score attack 100 or the weekend stuff.
But yeah. Let's just say it's better to have 12 attack more than 12 defense more if your defense is above the boss border anyways. Def has very little impact past that.
To expand on this from my personal observations: There seems to be 2 different scaling calculations for damage taken. The main one is the scale used for below border to border, where meeting the border drops the damage to the minimum damage for the enemy's attack, +/- RNG variation. The second scale is used for above border stats and reduces the minimum damage even further as you approach the Effect Parameter Cap. Most of the time for harder enemies, the Effect Parameter Cap is so large that it's unfeasible for current teams to reach it and reduce damage to 1, which would be why you have the impression that stats above the border don't do anything, even though it absolutely does.
>There seems to be 2 different scaling calculations for damage taken. The main one is the scale used for below border to border, where meeting the border drops the damage to the minimum damage for the enemy's attack, +/- RNG variation. The second scale is used for above border stats and reduces the minimum damage even further as you approach the Effect Parameter Cap.
We've known this since like week 3. That's why it's called the BORDER, it divided the two formulas.
The calculation is implemented in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WeO-OzkOyiaXWguXT7ugXPvYT3SXyvwGdAu2xdXCbLQ/
And an additional shot showing the damage decrease is consistent, it's not randomness that is causing the difference.
This weekend’s boss is particularly bad because it has the 100 stamina limitation like regular dungeons. And that carries over to the boss too. If you make it to the boss with 0 stamina you’ll need to beat both forma in 5 turns.
Yea, I hadn't touched those either since it seemed like it'd be too hard for me...oh well, probably just put it off for now, not like it expires. At least the winter free rolls have been kind and given me SS Megumi (lb0) and SS Isuzu (lb1 now)
Does Tama ever talk to Karen?
Fear the strong
Given the 500 quartz reward I figured I'd do the new dungeon till 20. Was surprised that 11+ was already chapter 4.1 in green. Was happy I could find a reason to take Hisame with me. Aoe ultis are so useful there.
Now I'd like to say I'm done with dungeons for a few months again, but I still have almost 90 dungeon tickets. What do I do with all that shit. Maybe I do a few runs of the elemental dungeons to stock up on.. stuff.
I'm always low on the drops that change stat bonuses on accessories, so I should probably do a few runs myself. I went through the list of pickups recently and I think the water ring dungeon gives the most of those.
From the time I did fire dungeons (man that's been well before the PC version was out..), I still have a few hundreds of shuffle items, just not fill items. I feel like you get much more shuffle than fill, but I also collected ALL shuffle items in the fire one, including all of those you gotta warp to.
I got every other +4 hat within 5 tries. But for dark it's 50 and counting
I'm never going to be able to stop hearing it as penis knights
wait the mission board ticket sucks. Its pool is only the initial 12 styles
Yes. No need to bother with it, really. The gold coins were nice and don't require weekend shit.
For me it was quite good. There was only a 1 in 12 chance of getting something bad from it (Miko). Literally everything else would've fit in well with what I have, which is far more than I can say about most of the recent SSes.
This took too long. I was making this comparison a year ago.
Speaking of the mission board. What's the meta for getting 35 million total power? Stuck on 27milion right now and aside from leveling up my unused characters I'm not sure what to do without wasting rolls.
Leveling up your unused characters should do a lot. Getting one from lvl 1 to 51 just added around 40k for me and getting another from 100 to 101 added another 30k. Adding a single +2 to an S style added around 2k while filling out the first group of style upgrades added 15k. I'm at 30.1 million myself, so I'll add some girls I never use to my prism farming teams.
It should just be inflated char power. So every stat is +100(?), while 10 dp/hp count as 1 stat, and for everything else it's 1. Every style counts here, so levels are probably the easiest way.
One very interesting thing from the KR announcement stream is that theirs and TW versions will start at the exact same point where the Japanese one will be at the moment of the release and will get the same updates at the exact same time, they won't do the thing where they start from the beginning and are a year behind. This will probably happen to global too if global will ever happen.
Also, if someone needs it, here's the 31A VA comments, at 1:02:50
?t=3770
Excellent.
I feel like that's much more of an argument for global never ever coming. There are almost no global versions that happened later that ever got this treatment. I know Counterside wants to get this done eventually and tries to play catchup really hard, but immediately everything available? No fricking way in hell. It's gonna be at best like Trails, where a western publisher lags behind many years while the chinese versions come out in parallel.
It'd be nice to be proven wrong here, but I ain't seeing it man. Not when it's not done from day 1 onwards.
One thing about this is that WFS have their own English publishing branch dealing with their global stuff, so if they WANT to do it, they can do it, they won't need to beg some 3rd party company to do it for them. Whenever they want to do it is obviously an another question.
What are they handling? Another Eden? Because that's a prime example of always behind, run by a single person kinda deal. Also the global steam version sucks ass among other issues that made it be far behind the JP version. The Japanese pc port works, too.
I mean it'd be nice if they'd be able to do it, but I still doubt it. Especially when they offer china and korea now, global looks less and less likely. This "it's the same game" idea is great, but it makes it feel like if you gonna do this now, may as well do it with everything you actually want.
As sad as it is, I still think there is no global market.
Also, they said they plan to simply add the Korean/Chinese language options to the current Japanese app, so every server will use the same app and not their own special app versions. I wonder what this means in practice, like is it possible for people who already play on JP server to just flip the language setting and continue with their account state there.
It sounds like its just a language setting as well as obviously being available on additional regions in the google play store. So yeah, even if you are playing in Japan if you want to change the language you should be able to.
Wow that's an insane amount of content at release, but also an insane amount of quartz, campaigns, life stones, mats, pick-ups, sales, etc that they're missing. I hope someone tallies up the total they're getting skimped out on. Playing these versions would be constant multi-tasking having to farm both current and past events too. Re-rolling would also be harder I think to get the Seira+Tama PVE combo. I honestly wish global doesn't do this format at release. I'd rather have 2 or 3 events in a month and catch up eventually than lose out on all that. Also assuming that they're getting 4.2 at the same time as JP they've got like 2 months to clear 4.1 for the presumed campaign quartz lol. Man I feel bad for any of those fans who were planning on saving for someone, but now their pickup doesn't even exist
If the new player experience is that bad, how should new JP fans catch up?
At this point I wouldn't worry about catching up and just play it like a VN. The difference between a new JP player and KR+ player is that JP players had all the time in the world to start playing while KR was forced to wait.
If anyone is planning on playing global I would suggest starting NOW because if you can just swap the language
option, you can presumably swap it to English when global comes out
The balancing is moronic in this game so instead of playing catch up you can just wait for them to nerf the difficulty instead.
They've already nerfed previous chapters multiple times and now they're increasing the level cap too.
Yeah it's kinda funny. If they actually replayed from day 1 (including rolling back the client), you'd have a worse time than just rerolling today and doing arena to level 110 (after the update).
You do not need Seira and really don't want to reroll for her, one of the most useless SS you could start with. She does nothing until her ultimate and then it's only useful in boss fights, but still not needed. Chapter 3 has been nerfed so much, there's no need for crits. Heck, there never was, I beat the original without any source of crit just fine back then. The changes soon will make 4.1 no problem without crits as well.
And by that point you can get the orb bosses crit orbs. The level cap will make these a LOT easier as well, and as long as you start with Tama you are going to have 0 issues, period. HBR is in a much better state than it was in the past, and in a few weeks it's gonna be even better for new players.
Really, if anyone wants to start: Do not bother with Seira. They really did a good job at making her not irrelevant, but also no longer even remotely needed. Tama vanilla is the best to start with from the initial 6 though.
Who are the best SS to reroll for now?
I'd recommend to just get as many SS as possible, ideally including a Buffer with enhance (Higuchi alt, Tsukasa vanilla or Iroha are probably ideal, two of which have useful fields and one the ultra single target drug) as well as someone that is good in dungeons and can deal damage. Like any gacha SS from MC Ruka, Karen, Byakko, Kura, Yuina... there are a lot really. It's more of an exception if a breaker/attacker/blaster/debuffer can't do well in dungeons, but they unfortunately exist.
There's also Yanagi who's very good. It's relatively future proof to grab her, as I can see two party things becoming enforced at some point, and every party needs a healer/protector. Given how there are only really 4 chars with SS in the game that can do this right now (Tama, Yanagi, Erika, and to an extend mom) it can be nice to pick up one more on top of the Tama starter. Right now that isn't needed though.
They will most likely still give some additional shit to people who play on non-JP, they already announced the same kind of the pre-release campaign.
Almost reminds me of starting Granblue
I guess I can finally do 100+35 consistently. Had to wait for the rules to change since my team is Fire, and then I had to wait a few days because I got my Karen Alt to LB3 and wanted to level her up to max. Ended up getting two Breaks, but used Tama's revive ultimate to recover and defeat Yuina next turn. My max damage was low because I couldn't get enough OD gauge for more debuffs and Ruka didn't critical the first hit of her ultimate. Maybe later I'll have better runs since I still haven't fought an Orb boss and thus have no Orb skills.
Surprised I learned this on /u/ out of all places.
End of December (January) event - 31A(""that"" girl will also appear, according to the VAs)
This thread has always been more about the gameplay and doesn't have that many more people posting in it. It's not that surprising.
We talked about this on the day of the stream. You're like two weeks late
On the day of the stream people were talking about a "Christmas event" while it might as well be a NY or a general winter event too, it isn't clear at all. We were also guessing if it's a 31a event or not, while Shimoda just straight up said it is.
Randomly found this on google, a bit scuffed but readable translation of their Korean interview.
https://www.world-today-news.com/heaven-burns-red-focused-solely-on-player-enjoyment/
Interesting points:
You will indeed be able to just continue to play on your Japanese account with a different language setting.
They planned HBR to be like that from the start(so the possible future servers will be like that too).
The localization is done in-house, they're not on mercy of some random company doing it for them.
This might change, but right now they still don't plan to add any new girls beyond the initial 48.
>This might change, but right now they still don't plan to add any new girls beyond the initial 48.
Good. 48 is a frickhuge cast for this kind of story and they're only just starting to breathe a bit of life into some of the extras.
I mean. We will lose characters. I personally do hope they add new characters, but not like an entirely new squad. Just you know. That mysterious type of character that eventually appears and once again throws everyone's world view through a grinder. Like a cancer girl.
Of course they wouldn't tell us that they are planning to add new characters even if they did, as that'd automatically be spoiler territory and HBR really cares about this. But I really kind of expect something. Not any time soon. But in another 2 or 3 chapters...
There's one big problem with the new characters. If they add a new character in let's say chapter 6, they can't really utilize her in any event without making it a ch.6 clear req. Which also means they can't give a normal event to any new character, only interludes like the Iroha one.
Yeah, that's why I meant something that does not regularly appear. Then it really doesn't matter. It doesn't even need to be a style for another year or so after appearing for the first time.
I’m most curious about how they’ll update that menu where you can see all the character information grouped by teams, if any characters are being added to existing teams, or if there are any team reshuffles. There’s also all that merch they’ve been selling, and roster changes like that would make their marketing quite difficult.
Which would make me think they are not doing any changing to that menu or the "official" teams. Even if a team member works with squads missing a member, they won't be a part of that squad "officially".
CN stream was basically KR stream but in Chinese, nothing notable, even the VA messages were the same. The only difference is that they had some Ruka and Yuki cosplayers appearing on stage at the very last minute for some reason.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1602543842145628160
They don't tease an event there, so it seems that Christmas stuff will be only a campaign + alts.
It never was going to be a Christmas event. It makes no sense timeline wise
Disappointing. Least the new SSes seem to be nice.
do you have their datamined skills? I'm deciding if I want to go all in for Inorin or not
I'm now thinking about the style distribution for the actual event, knowing it's 31A. I think the Sumomo equivalent for the event will be a character without an SS style and she will get it there and then the 2nd SS will be a 31A alt, like that Aoi/Yuki banner.
It's a bit too early to datamine.
From what I've gotten from others:
>S Miko: 2-hit 10SP Light AOE with a chance to stun
>SS2 Bungo: 2-hit 9SP Light AOE, 4-hit 13SP Light ST DP+30%, does DP+50% the first time you use it in a fight, seems to have a self def down attached to it. LB3 bonus is self +25% light damage if in the vanguard at the start of the turn.
>SS2 Wakki: 5SP single target Doping w/ self def down, low damage 4-hit 11SP Light AOE w/ party Light attack up. LB3 bonus is party +10% skill damage if in the vanguard at the start of the turn. She's also seemingly not an attacker.
>Bungo ultimate
>no chance to fail
Unacceptable
Apparently she's finally learned to do better. It only took her almost a whole bloody year.
So, it wasn't early, huh.
> Light
I understand they planned to alternate elements from the start, but Ice is so behind right now, it would benefit it from not alternating anything
31B's gonna have that covered eventually.
Thanks anon. Wow I can't believe it has that limiter on it, while Kanata can just get full power with a charge buff. Though I guess it's supposed to be a one and done attack either way
For what it's worth, the first-time use also seems to come with more base damage on top of what I've mentioned, so she should hit harder initially. I'll just wait and confirm it for myself later though, once I'm free enough to do the datamining myself or the usual site gets updated, whichever comes first.
Those lb3 bonuses give some leeway for still using the ss1 style if you have both instead of them being out right replaced. Especially if you are running elemental teams.
Remember you can't generalize ults of alts. Which I still hope they'll change.
I'm ready
>31C
Called it, I will now spend.
The level cap increase already being live is a nice surprise, especially with high level prisms giving 4-5x as much XP now.
I’m surprised they raised it while a score attack is still active.
Wonder if I can hit the cap and go from 160k to 180k…
For single target only
Atk+50|DP+50|Buff+80|Deb+60|Field+50
>Fire: N,Y,Y,Y,Y
>Ice: N,N,N,N,Y
>Elec: N,N,N,Y,Y
>Light: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
>Dark: Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
Ice and Elec really falling behind
Both handled by 31B and 30G's SS2s respectively, and thunder in particular will also be boosted by 31X once they get more SSes. They'll be fine.
Frick yeah.
You know, they're not going to spam these SS2 one after the other back to back, so it isn't looking fine at all. Maybe the next wave of 31a alts will be also ice to compensate.
Actually, when I think about it, 31B SS2 already got both their Buffer and Debuffer. Higuchi is amazing, but isn't ice. Kozue does ice damage, but her utility is actually generic, not ice focused.
Obviously, Ichigo, Byakko or Aoi(if Aoi SS2 even happens in the near future) can have off-class abilities, but it would be really nice to get something on top of that, like SS3 Megumi as a proper ice debuffer, for example.
I seriously hope before they start with ss3 madness, they do something about the LB issue.
Or rather, I hope they don't start with it any time soon. That can still wait a year.
Well, another option is to turn 31X into a mixed element unit and make Sharo an ice debuffer. It obliviously would fit her thematically and is better than her being thunder because thunder already got a single target debuff and have a 2nd chance to get something from Miya SS2 too.
What LB issue?
That you can't use ults from new styles on older styles that may have higher LBs. In fact, they have to do something, as even SS2 can't be used, so if they'd add an SS3 we'd not be able to use SS2's ult on that anyways.
Mind you, this might even be sorta good in some ways, but I'd rather they just remove the restriction of generalize to begin with, also so you can level all ults past 10.
That's not an issue, it's designed that way to give alts their inherent value and uniqueness and not just a glorified ult unlocker, that's how most gacha alts work. Leveling the alt ults to 13 I can get behind.
Then units should be self contained to begin with. They aren't. Given that S styles already largely function as a bonus ability, why would SS be different.
It just doesn't work like that in this game. It actively discourages picking up alt versions.
That's why they're S styles, there's a difference in rarity. If people find value in the alt's ult then that's obviously more than enough reason to get them.
The moment they made generalize a thing, they said good bye to style identity and made newer styles the go to, as they can do everything the older could, and more. This is the main difference to usual gacha. There you'd need the older version invested on, if you want to use their abilities.
If HBR never did generalize I'd say alright. No problem. The fact that they DID however means that all styles still need to have the same value eventually. And that is just not the case right now. This WILL bite them in the ass eventually. It's already doing so. If you have a lb1/2/3 or whatever of a good SS, an alt you'd need to get many times to compete would need to be utterly godly to be relevant. And they generally aren't. So far we only have cases where the base version is utterly trash.
So you're saying roll for new units, okay.
>It actively discourages picking up alt versions.
Definitely not. With generize it significantly encourages you to invest in alts over original styles.
You don't need to worry about SS3 not getting old ults if your ults are fricking useless.
Megumi somehow being one of the more powerful SS despite having shit ults.
I don't know if I can call her that, but yes, she's decent if you have the proper debuff styles. I think it's the big benefit of debuffers as a class, they have the bigger chance to get some useful debuff as a non-ult ability, so they will accumulate them as the time goes. Especially Megumi, she will have more chances to get something due to 31A getting S2 styles and fast track SS3, whenever it happens. Well, unless they will change her class later, but even then a different class with good generic debuffs is probably still a good thing.
Yeah, I mean having both defense down (S) as well as fragile (SS2). Both have been relatively rare debuffs until recently, and Megumi has both. Her stun is also underrated and can be spammed since she doesn't need a ton of SP until you are doing an OD3 full debuff on a weak enemy.
We are finally getting enough buffs/debuffs that she is finally getting pushed out of some teams (especially thanks to Higuchi SS2 being OP), but if you need fragile and don't already have it she is your girl.
What a coincidence. I can sorta make Fire (MC, Karen, Yukki, Tsukasa), Light (MC, Kura, Yuina, Miya) and Dark (Shiki, Iroha, Misato, Monaka) teams but have jack shit for ice (Bungo, Mari) and elec (Ichigo, Sumomo).
Technically I have a ninja girl as well, but she's fake ice.
So, after this update lightning is only lacking the proper attacks. Potential upcoming styles:
>31X, 30G alts, 31A 2nd alts
Ice is lacking literally everything, but the field skill. Upcoming styles
>Ichigo, Byakko, Aoi(?) alts, I guess...
can you explain this? I don't get the atk and dp, and isn't bungo ice debuf?
crab's debuff caps at 45%. The standard caps at 60%
What the frick, she can actually psychic proper fire, I thought it was a joke setup.
Bungo is aoe, aoe debuffs are inferior to ST debuffs.
New music: SB0132 (It's Jingle Bells)
New poses/expressions:
Yamawaki Xmas2022
Bungo Xmas2022
Seira: Joy
Yotsuba: Pose_04, Superiority
Looks like you'll be playing as Wakki during the event.
I had to make jpegs out of these again to post here. The mega folder has the real files.
Can't believe they've turned the single mother of 10 into a reindeer. Honestly my favorite SS2 design so far.
Looks like the site has been updated. Free SS after 10 logins, 2 new packs, step up banner, 1000 quartz in total from new missions.
So the Korean and Chinese versions are going to miss out on the Christmas campaigns too
I fricking hate how this event keeps giving me game overs. I shouldn't have to manually play.
Daily pulls didn't give me nothing after all. On the final (?) day, a rainbow screen. LB2 Monaka. Could've been better, but also quite a bit worse.
Don't the daily pulls run until the 20th?
Man the level grind past 120 is hard even with ~2mil exp from prism 13
They should add some new difficulties to the event prisms next event.
They're not wrong about the current grindfests at least. I'd like to see WFS streamline the current content once 4.2 comes out.
Nice, they got Megumi's VA for this anni event. Ruka's one is still dodging.
Due to illness apparently.
No, she has a love live event on that day, one of the last ones before she steps down from the role, unlucky.
>new CM
>still using that Aoi scene
Come on.
>Karen's VA as a guest
I wonder if we can guess her getting SS3 for the 31a event out of this or if it's completely irrelevant to anything.
I think everyone predicted these forever ago
I like the idea with the separate campaign cutscene instead of them trying to justify a full meme Christmas event in the actual plot.
Managed to hit 180k on the score attack just before it closes, thanks to everyone’s increased level caps. Unfortunately I think I farmed the event prism too much and I’ll have way too many medals after the rewards from the upcoming score attack.
https://twitter.com/hbr_official_tw/status/1603336081252179970
They expanded a bit on the different languages thing. Even though they will be synced there will still be region-based servers, people can pick the server when they launch the app for the first time. Everyone who play on JP right now will be able to change the language, but they will still remain JP.
I assume it's primarily for the regional regulations/payment options, but this also means they can give them different free gibs or additional banners to compensate for the late start.
It's not like anyone starting in JP gets that either though.
The game should function regardless, and with the recent changes, I don't see much of an issue. Outside of whale issues, but if you want to whale, then you simply have to whale a little harder. The Japanese whales have been whaling for almost a year, so it's obviously gonna be hard on the money at first.
>It's not like anyone starting in JP gets that either though.
JP will most likely start doing special newbie campaigns later at some point, gachas do these when they stop considering themselves "new". But the difference is that when starting on JP you know you're starting on a server that's almost a year old, but KR an TW are supposed to be "new", even if the content is updated. I'm not talking about them getting some super compensations or anything, but more like their updated version of the starter banners JP had instead of just whatever banner JP will have at the moment and nothing else, or like getting their own 100 days campaign when it happens, this kind of stuff.
Wait, why is Wakki still an attacker when this style literally got 2 buffs and a buff passive.
She should be a buffer like Shiki. Also she is the first victim. When Shiki was released I already said there will be more poor souls that get absolutely trash SS like Shiki's. Wakki alt is the first victim, sharing the banner with an actually really good SS.
Unless you have nothing better, a light/dark team will look like this:
-Buffer (Higuchi alt if possible)
-field
-Healer/sustain (i.e. Yanagi)
-Hisame
-2 sources for damage, ideally a Breaker and Blaster.
Of course for simple prism fights overkill, but yeah. The offensive ult buff is so fricking bad. It's way worse than even a simple enhance. Of course, for memes (aka maximize one chars damage) it's fine. In dark's case you can ditch Higuchi alt and in theory take Shiki, as Shiki can enhance and Iroha can also enhance. (don't)
But for light this doesn't even work. The light field user is not a buffer, neither is Wakki's A / S. The SS's labeling is weird so far, but whatsoever.
Only reason I'm looking at Wakki is to get my Yuina to 40M damage against the plant.
Can I use US steam cards to buy for the gacha rolls?
Yeah, it just uses your steam wallet to buy gems.
should I do orbs or the new dungeon first?
If you beat floor 40 of the new dungeon you get an SS ticket for 1 of the first 12 units. You also get quartz at increments for beating up to certain floors. The dungeon maps v
https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/487230
Orbs are a meme except for crit orb if you don't have Seira and/or you want to score higher than 120k at score attack for whatever reason
Getting 180k twice a month reduces the amount of grinding you need to do for an event by quite a bit. It's a solid reason.
No, you don't get the SS ticket. You need to do several weekend bosses, which is the much bigger issue and most people don't touch this content. And honestly I don't see that changing anytime soon. That content isn't for anyone who's not spending quite a bit of money.
what do orbs do
get orb
equip orb
equip orb skill
fight orb boss with orb on
get orb points to 100
now character has orb skill without orb
but only 2 orb skills are worth getting
also takes long time to get orb points to 100
better to just get more orbs
orb
how the frick do you do the weekend bosses? I finally got up to 140k on score attack and figured I could try it again but it just doesn't ever die.
Feeler is particularly tough because it has a frickton of health. If you know its attack pattern you can safely buff whenever it uses its debuff gas.
The last times I succeeded I stocked up to OD3, then broke its DP with about 5 or 6 ultis. It won’t restore its DP after it breaks, so you can build up the damage multiplier to 999%, and hopefully by then you’ll have OD3 again and enough ulti charges to finish it off.
If it helps, you might want to farm the growth dungeon for more stats over the next few days.
They aren't created equal. If you can't beat this one then try a chapter 1/2 boss when they are on the rotation.
Oh can you not re-watch the Christmas episodes...
Where do you start them in the first place? It's telling me to do them but it's not giving me anything to click on in the event tab or anywhere else.
Have you done the first "spend life 3 times" mission? That unlocks a new button in the bottom-right of the main screen.
Oh, I thought I had to spend them on the campaign. Thanks.
No! Bungo stop!
There has to be a way she can kill you by pushing you out of bounds
gesu
WHYYYYYYY
Could be worse, like a 3rd koju dupe
The stepup scam only gave me the guarantee. Again. The last with free quartz wasn't better.
Anyways, I got a new Higuchi vanilla. With that I literally have ALL fields. Also another buffer SS. Now I only lack Tsukasa alt and Seira. This game throws way too many buffers on me, seriously.
Well, don't want to complain too much. My only elec sources are Ichigo and Sumomo lb0, but it could be worse. Like ice. Only "I never hit anyways" Bungo and "I'm actually not ice LUL" Ninja girl. Plus all these 1 hit only ultis are actually not that bad with Higuchi alt's ult.
The level cap isn't even in full effect yet, and this is a 5 turn 94+35 score attack. Damn son. Normally I don't care about more than 91+35, but after almost oneshotting that with a Karen ult I figured I try a few levels higher. And she's only level 108/120. On max level, who knows, maybe it IS a oneshot against the 91.
SA is a joke now with Hoju and the new level cap.
I just keep switching my teams for variety every time a new one comes around.
I'm loving Maki's SS more and more, blaster with fragile in one ult is so good.
This is Yuina's ultimate on the plant with 2 Higumin dopings, 1 charge from Yanagi, 2 Higumin ult defense debuffs on the boss (I got pretty lucky there), 2 Fragile debuffs from Megumi, 999% DR and a crit. What more do I need to reach truly stupid numbers?
This is mine.
Hisame 2x Light Defense Down
Megumi 2x Defense Down
Megumi 2x Fragile
Miya Light zone
Higuchi SS2 2xUlt (2x Doping, 2x +30% crit damage)
You can add Wakki or Minori as a 6th member to get even more damage.
Thanks. I keep forgetting about field effects, but I only have Tsukasa and Higuchi to use there. Out of those I only could have used Hisame myself. I've been rolling for Wakki, but it just gave me another Yuina.
Meanwhile I have all fields, but nothing much to use them with..
But whatsoever. At least I can QED now. It's fun killing the maxed anima sphere turn 2, before it ever attacked.
Forgot image. I also have much higher stats at LB2.
I didn’t know that defence down debuffs stack. Max of 2 stacks? Does the defence down from Higuchi’s ulti have a greater effect than others?
I remembered seeing it had a higher maximum reduction, but I must have imagined it. I ran out of SP after 2 and got lucky because she also has a chance of applying an attack debuff instead. The damage calculation spreadsheet also only takes 2 debuffs each into account, so I don't know if more do anything.
>Max of 2 stacks?
Yes, most debuffs stack 2 times, a few 1 (like misfortune).
>Does the defence down from Higuchi’s ulti have a greater effect than others?
It's the highest, which is similar for other single target defense down like Miko's 4SP skill or Megumi's 8SP skill. AoE debuff down like Miko's ult are lower.
can you do the weekly boss more than once per week?
Think they've recently made it so that you can, but you only get the rewards on your first win of the week.
Have you gotten anything from this round of free pulls? It's ending soon.
Misarin dupe which is welcome
I wish I had Irene
I got an Iroha dupe on the first day getting me LB2. I guess she can help tank hard flat hand or something now.
LB2 Monaka. Surprised I got anything. My luck is still hilariously bad. I think my account's SS rate is a pretty stable 1.5% for quite some months now.
Literally nothing so just the usual
Wait, if it's a 31a event, then we will probably get a 31A event S. I wonder who it will be, Ruka and Tama already have their 2nd styles.
ワクワク
Are orbs other than the crit orb actually worth it? Looking at the benefits, really only the attack buff doesn't sound like a waste of time. I've seen people praise the OD increase skill, but 15% feels about the same as what two triple hits do.
Currently, for normal players: No. I dunno about people doing all the hardest content like weekend battles though.
is there some way to auto grind the elemental dungeons, i'm so tired of this
Nope, just pray a qol gets adressed. Dungeon farming is too unreasonable for people playing on their phones.
Let alone shuttle running. Not like that's required, but if you want to farm elemental dungeons, shuttle running is actually a better thing to do, as it has much more impact. Unless you do it for accessory slot materials. But the 10% bonus damage from the accs for their element pails against the 20-50% bonus damage you can get by maxing your ults/buffs.
Luckily steam exists.
だいじょばない
wow the japs have daijoubun't too, based
So, do you think there's any deeper meaning behind them having Karen VA as a guest for the event stream? Like
1. Karen is getting the first SS3 style(not counting Ruka's bonus pseudo SS)
2. The event is Karen focused somehow
3. Or they just called her because why not
Time for the first solo Karen song. About time for Ruka to catch a cold.
Is 250 intelligence the limit for debuff skills too?
No, debuffs are measured against the enemy so it varies. It's also a combination of wis and luck usually.
frick weekly bosses
It's just 15 minutes of your day tbh
Does hard Flat Hand also have a third phase?
Yeah it does.
Their existence becomes a lot more tolerable when you realise it's just one of their ways of monitoring how good players' squads are. The rewards are also so minimal that you can easily skip them. I've run out of characters I could or want to spend nordstroms on, so I'm not gonna go out of my way to do them for the foreseeable future.
Any news on global?
never ever
just learn nip it's not that hard
I think it depends on how the new servers will do. The way they described it in the recent interview about them, first they waited half a year until the game stabilized before even thinking about the other servers. Then they decided to try to launch servers in the Asian countries close to Japan. So, the global server is probably morel like a final boss-level project for them.
I really do wonder how a non-waifu, non-coomer, non-pvp, turn-based rpg, yurige, mobage would do on global. If even a game like Magia Record got axed in 1 year, the prospects don't look good. And they even had Aniplex bux to work with. Then again Another Eden is still alive somehow
Bad. Especially if they handle it like Another Eden.
Right now I pay about 70euro for a 10k quartz package, maybe a little less. Given how Another Eden works, I'd be paying what, 120 for a global version? Another Eden at least has the steam version which is USD only, so you don't have to pay the horrendously inflated euro prices on mobile that they introduced some months ago. It'd still be quite a bit more though I think.
HBR is really expensive if they'd do what a lot of other gacha do. People wouldn't buy anything. Not like Europe is the biggest gacha spending market, it really isn't. But still, even for other countries that'd be falling under global it'd be pretty expensive. And unlike Another Eden, where you can play the entire game with freely obtainable units and the gacha is relatively optional.. you can't say that about HBR.
I really don't think HBR is a good idea until 2 seasons of anime aired and those anime are a huge hit. Unless you basically become Fate, tough luck.
https://key.visualarts.gr.jp/archives/4791
Maeda's commentary on the album songs.
Free SS day bwos. LB2 Inorin for me, really happy.
There are only 6 SSes I want, 9 counting currently released SS2s, and I just got dupes for two of them. Pretty damn happy. Just not sure if I should spend 10 SS tokens on bringing Higumin 1 to LB3...
The tickets gave me Risamama and the first of the step-ups gave me a second Byakko. Considering I didn't expect to any SS from either, I'll take it.
Another Summer Tsukasa dupe, but need another dupe to LB her, so meh
Those .5s of SS you use are so awkward. You're happy...but it does nothing.
LB1 Adelheid for me.
>Aoi and light megumin dupe
well Aoi is totally useless, but at least Megumin can get +3 sp now
Got Hisamecchi. Already had normal Yukki so not sure if i i gain anything from it but i'll take the free SSR.
Well if you ever want to do dark or light party, Hisame is a must have.
Got me an SSR Iroha. Don’t really care about her character’s story, but at least I can make a decent Dark party with her.
Minori is going to help my max damage screenshots against the plant.
The 25th is also her birthday and yet nobody's pulled her. So much for it being a merry Chiemas.
The new mission ticket gives me Bungo while the free ten rolls give me Wakki lol.
HBR ruined my christmas. My insanely bad luck continues. Not only does it tease with a random additional SS after all the fricking nothing in the world I always get, no, both SS are out of the 3 SS in the game that are utterly useless to me. How in the world is that even possible.
I'd take anything new. I'd take any dupe, just not vanilla Yukki (absolutely fricking garbage, aside of having had already lb2), Misato (same, but lb0) or MC fire (would change literally nothing as I have her alt at lb1, vanilla at lb0). And of course both roll into that.
Sometimes I feel like this game doesn't want me to play, and at the same time I know that this shit happens to newer people as well. If they pull this absolute trash called vanilla Yukki or Misato, they basically haven't pulled an SS. If you still struggle with the story, this is absolutely game ruining.
Honestly, raising the level cap and giving out entirely random SS when the pool is so full of not useable garbage isn't going to help people that struggle because they get those. What we really need is actually something that allows people to get the GOOD and USEFUL stuff. Every time I see these completely useless SS pop up I get sad for newer people, and remember the times where I needed specific stuff to not be bricked anymore. Luckily those times are over. Luckily I do no longer needs something specific. But frick is it not nice memories and not nice for new people playing.
The level cap raise is very important. But it does jack shit when all you have is shit like Misato or vanilla Yukki.
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This but with base Koju, truly utterly useless. Yukki at least makes horses and crabs trivial, if you can't appreciate that you probably deserve it.
Kozue would be a lot better if her ult wasn't needlessly nerfed, but she's still a mainstay in my party. Prisms and dungeons are only a means to an end, not least because of just how many tickets you get every month, so I'd definitely be less happy with something that facilitates those than I would be with a Kozue dupe.
And Koju is a means to nothing. I'd take dupes of those that have a use than another useless koju dupe thanks.
We're definitely starting to reach that point where the game has so many SSes that it's hard to be excited about getting one if it's not likely to be a good fit for your plans. At least with the level buff there's next to no reason to care right now, but that could easily change again in 4.2.
How many litas is a Christmas birthday?
I hate you, Santa.
What the frick happened to seraph.day character list.
Seems they want you to use it for team building now. You gotta use the style list if you want useful info about skills.
i still don't understand how to build characters and rotations
Me neither. And I don't even try. I log in for one week per month to clear out the new event. I do the score attack on auto. I ignore the weekend hard boss. I ignore the orb bosses. I probably ignore several other things I'm not even aware of the existence of.
If the next main story boss kicks my ass, THEN I'll learn the bare minimum I need.
Just focus on the stats that the character scales highest with, or whichever their skill scales with. For buffers you can mix in some defense. For rotations, I guess that's the gameplay aspect that you have to figure out yourself.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1607579522827751429
Otamasan event coming up?
don't tell me she wants to meet Megumi already. I thought we were saving that for 4.2. Also if korea and china are launching in January, then they won't even be able to play the event unless they rush 4.1 lol
I don't know, even though it sounds like this, I kinda doubt they will do a latest chapter locked event for NY. Maybe she's talking to whoever other sqaud girl is partnering 31a in this event like Sumomo was in the swimsuit one.
I guess it could be about Akari and her senpai. It'd be pretty funny if she was the person they were referring to on stream. Though Tama really doesn't interact outside of 31A. She only had one interaction with Aina I think. Then again it could just be another Karen-chan Iroha deal
A chapter 4 locked event combined with some "free quartz for clearing 4.1" sort of a campaign before anni+4.2 and after the recent level cap changes would actually be a smart thing to do, I just don't know if New Years out of all dates is a good place for that.
>Also if korea and china are launching in January,
They're having a short beta test in January, so probably not. I think they will try to launch it on the same day as JP anni unless there's any problems, so it makes the whole synced servers thing to work even better.
Amazing how they have this emotional music box music playing over the montage and Yuki has to scream the stupid tropical line.
How gay is this game?
You could always ask the /u/ thread.
yuri isn't gay
NOOOO
Welcome to the waiting room, enjoy your stay. You'll be here for a while.
is the build your own fight better than arena?
I can AFK farm diamonds so for me it is.I'm all out of life stones and tickets and I need to optimize some Drive Earrings.
Depends on what you need. I need accessory reroll stones, not diamonds or gems, so for me it's strictly worse.
Only if you literally never plan on making another 6* accessory ever. Then sure.
I'm at that point now, yeah. Got lucky with 6 +1200s with high %es a few months ago.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1608025091190710274
They also got Tama's VA as a stream guest, so maybe the Karen's one was actually invited "just because they can".
I want Bungo to make this face as she shows me her pantsu
Oh shit update's here. I thought they would actually update a bit before the stream to stop dataminers
Weirdly it looks like the update is not yet live on Steam, either that or some other weird thing is going on. Looks like the ability to use is than one life for a prism fight is finally in-game.
I gotchu with the leaks, open at your own discretion. Filesize is too big so have imgur links.
Extremely cute Tama will roll until I get her. Looks like Tama is alone in the Gacha and Mari is from the event shop.
I'm more excited about this. 31E is a total win for me except for Niina
That's 31F though.
Lmao, and some extremely naive people actually thought they wouldn't do it. I hope Megumi will get an actual ult on her next alt, third time's the charm.
It would be really cool if Megumi's lightning alt ult is just her doing her lightning attack from 4.1 without even using her seraph.
Datamine anon, if you're here and you're not managing to get the latest song, try redownloading the latest version of the plugin. A lot of stuff seems inaccessible this time around, but that works at least.
I only just woke up, but that's good to know. Thanks.
hobbyist dataminer from the side here, what's this "plugin" thing? it sounds fun
The vgmstream component for Foobar2000 that allows you to decode awb files.
oh I just use vgmstream itself
so you're referring to something like a new decryption key being added to the git repo? yeah I know about that shit
Yeah, the old key apparently no longer works as of this update.
New unit and event images and music now in the mega:
SB0133 & _B
SI0073
SV0073
SZ0022 - 0025
New poses/expressions:
Maria: GreatSurprise
Shiki: Serious
Bungo Xmas: nothing new, just higher resolution
Shiki also comes in a lower resolution than before. It would be great if they could make up their minds about this.
Told you it wasn't story related, there's no way they would do it for NY.
>Next 31A element is thunder
Icebros...
What's the best place to shuttle run
I wonder why is there only one style, this Mari S literally could have been an another alt. What's the point of these unique models S alts anyway, people are going to replace it with the SS style the moment they can do that.
Trying to assign logic to anything WFS does with the gacha is generally a waste of time.
I mean, people were predicting a new 31a alt, so it isn't a complete enigma. You can probably also safely assume the anni 31a alt is either Ruka, Megumi or Karen.
I just want them to add a skin system so you can use styles with a different costume.
A changing room would only make them more money. I really hope they add one.
I don't think they will do it for proper alts, but they can at least do it so the default styles can use the alt S models or something, otherwise they should just stop wasting the 3d artists time on it, it's fricking silly.
Ellen...
I still miss the game Tojibro.
I booted up the Bluestacks instance I used for it the other day and the title music gave me way more nostalgia than I ever expected. I'm still amazed we managed to keep up a general on /vg/ and not here.
https://twitter.com/nismogo/status/1608014392410648576
Genga for that Ruka's animation from the PV.
Damn 5 life on Prism 13 is a lot of EXP.
I wish the orb boss let me do that.
Wish they would just let you do the event boss without doing the story like they do with score attack, since I don't usually have time to read it all the night it releases, especially on the longer stories
What in the world is WFS's obsession with skill guides? Why do they keep thinking they're more valuable than they really are?
Probably for people who dont know what shuttle runs are
That was an interesting story I guess...?
I mean at the end of the day it was just a gag event and the mermaid thing doesn't really play a part in the greater story - yet? Really nothing too much of note except for another fantasy element that puts the validity of the world into question. Also Yuki seeing the game over screen is most likely meant to be taken as a joke, but she seems pretty convinced
EOP here, is there a way to read this game's story in real time while playing through it with a software or something?
Ideally not screenshotting every line and having it ran through an image translator, as it takes too long and the switching between apps disrupt the flow.
MingShiba's OCR toolkit is I saw being recommended on /u/ a while back, I believe.
No main story syndrome is really hitting everyone hard
What was even the point of the 4.1/4.2 split? We've now waited longer for 4.2 than we have for 4.1. Really makes me wonder what's taking them so long.
>What was even the point of the 4.1/4.2 split?
It's a plot split, not the content split. It's basically 4 and 5 content/development-wise, but the story will most likely continue with the Megumi stuff and close the arc.
I don't dislike the mermaid stuff as much as the 5ch schizos, but I think it would be really nice if this event was a comedy one without muh serious plot at all, just some pure filler content about them surviving. They don't need to come up with some serious business every single month, it's fine.
Maeda is starting to メンヘラ on twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jun_lowguy/status/1608799950158331907
I feel like the guy he is responding to is doomposting a bit hard, the event scripts have always been weaker than the main story. But then Maeda just agrees with him that it's going to be bad?
>he nuked his account again
It wasn't even bad, what the frick is wrong with the nips.
>bullied off the net again
Makes you realize that the game is one bad day away from losing its main writer
I'm pretty sure I have seen some doomposting about almost every event, I have no idea why this one in particular did something like that.
Good thing the 4.2 script is done and voiced already, so his writing for it won't get affected by him reading a few moron posts on twitter.
If he's already like this now, then I can't imagine the monthly event system being sustainable in the future.
Is my game bugging out or is the story not voiced this time?
Probably bugging out on your end. It's voiced just fine.
Indeed it was. I had Steam check the files and it works again.
I think their main mistake behind this anger about the chapter delay(I don't know if you can call this a "delay", it was probably always supposed to be like that) isn't the general event quality or whatever the frick, but the Iroha interlude. They put it exactly in the middle, it was supposed to give everyone enough main story material so they could sustain themselves until 4.2. But it wasn't enough, it felt more like a random event really.
Pretty sure I could get more if I had Ichigo.
Thunder is pretty strong now.
It's pierce resist week, so Ichigo wouldn't immediately help at least.
You're right, maybe next week I'll start seeing 500k+ on twitter.
There is zero way the event boss rated at 15k power is actually 15k. Or that number is completely misleading because the DIY arena boss at 14.6k takes me 3 turns while it took every crit and ult I had just to shave off 1/3 of this thing's health.
Apparently its stats are preeeetty high. Also the difference between the battle power number and "real" power changes a lot based on your party formation.
it's not even the worst event
What IS the worst event then? Maybe the swimsuit one.
It's either Mari or Nikaido for me. Mari because the backstory was just ridiculous and tacked on and Nikaido because the whole thing was boring from start to finish, though at least that one had a good song. That Day's Friend was also really bad for its terrible cliches and it burying Kojue's character
Eh, this one is right down there with Yuina's in the lowest tier, maybe with the first half of the swimsuit event joining them too. Maeda's usual repetitive brand of humor got old many months ago, and that hurts the game even more than the desperate need to have almost every monthly event have a sad twist. The real gems are in the memory events and have been for a long time now.
>Maeda's usual repetitive brand of humor got old many months ago
I had a blast through the comedy part of this event, would love to see it in the anime form(never happening).
I loved the Swimsuit event, but this one managed to even piss me off. I was sick of Yuki's screaming game over routine after the 3rd time, and then they did it 6 more times.
I wonder what a clip would look like if you just put together the repetitive lines in a row.
Do that with Miya's lines in the Yuina event instead. Maeda seriously shafted her there.
The double game over with Megumi was great and the joke about Ruka's seraph in the game over screen. Personally liked the comedy a lot this time but i can see why people want more connection to the main story and or fleshing out side characters. Most important scene this event was Yuki sniffing Ruka's armpits.
As for the Mermaid part. Anything revolving this type of romance is hard to do with the current characters. My guess is that Maeda got inspired by the general idea of and just forced it into Heavens burn Which might also be why he's taking this one personal. Main problem is that it's just two literal who characters + Tama who's just being a nice girl. When one of them is >male in a Yuri game and the other is a mermaid hag that gets more uppity after every meeting, i can see why nobody really cares. I do quite like the premise.
>I was sick of Yuki's screaming game over routine after the 3rd time, and then they did it 6 more times.
I feel like they really liked how the TROPICAL gag turned out and how well people reacted to it, so they tried to force a new one just like that. But outside of Yuki's screeching, I actually really liked the gag itself, their "dying" voices were funny as shit, how Tama died multiple times in a row, how Ruka and Megumi stopped hiding/making fire just to appear in the reaction frame, some of their justifications for it, like Meugumi saying she's dying because "she's a delicate lady", it was really nice.
I guess for me what it comes down to is that her tsukkomi routine so rarely is part of what's actually funny. The funny bits already happened and then there's Yuki screaming about it. Meanwhile in the swimsuit event it was the source of the comedy with the highlight when everyone was taking turns screaming at ghosts and Karen-chan just going よっ! in the middle of it.
japanese people genetically can only laugh at jokes after the tsukkomi, it's necessary
is he actually going to seppuku?
He'll be back. Probably just feeling the shame of publicly executing 2 antis who didn't even @ him
>who didn't even @ him
The 2nd one kinda did, it was a quote reply to his post. Honestly, I have no idea why he even reacted, if the first one was just a random guy, the second one was such an obvious hysterical over the top doomposter, I have no idea how can one be in the industry for 20+ years and still give even a bit of their attention to these types.
I'm completely lost as to why he reacted to the first guy too. It was just some random person tweeting with the hashtag. I think the tweet even had only 1 like at the time or something.
This event it was definitely another level but yuki having to be a tsukkomi bot is overarchingly annoying
>but yuki having to be a tsukkomi bot is overarchingly annoying
This is an issue with the current comedy setup, it's a bit weird. In 31A Yuki is supposed to be the main tsukkomi and Megumi is supposed to be the secondary tsukkomi. But... Megumi is also the main punching bag of the group and a major comic relief character, so she never really gets to tsukkomi and let Yuki chill a bit and do something else in these events. If you look at the movie event where she was alone tsukkomi'ng all the moronation happening around her, it's a completely different dynamic that we don't get to see in 31A events.
I really like Megumi's tsukkomi, especially compared to Yuki. Like all the gags with her psychic meditation. When she raises her voice it's because she's actually pissed at people whereas Yuki just does it.
>tfw day1 player
I'm ngmi, I just hate the autistic minmax combat
it's literally simpler than genshin
in genshin I don't need to build defensive stats on attackers so they don't die
you're telling me that's more difficult than crit balancing?
crit balancing is just for dick measuring contests, you don't need it to beat battles
The scam was another useless ss1 dupe and nothing else, the new SS is now a second alt causing more issues with the alt system and is very meh on top of it. Thunder just sucks, because Higuchi is busy giving out her drug and doesn't have SP to use the field. Any other element is basically automatically better/faster so you can use her alt's ult more, if you have it of course. Also the banner is shit with only 1 rate up of 0.75%.
The event was meh, enjoyable enough character interactions but I still don't think you should make events like this past 4.1 anymore. Simply leaving out "humanity" or "humans" as a main topic would be enough already, but this is the second time I feel like it's really weird.
The difficulty settings are interesting, but the hardest one had zero balance in it, with the boss dealing 10 times the damage of normal enemies and being way overtuned. Yeah, sure, you don't need to beat it, but that's just fricking boring. No warning. Shitty cooking with bad effects you pick up because why not. Then that? At least the rewards are completely irrelevant. I hope they stop putting that crap into a fricking story event. Who the hell wants to replay that.
The event farm boss is still capped at SS level, so no exp or more coins.
An extremely weak way to end the year. In every single possible way. Even the stacked prism battles are kinda shit because a stacked battle only counts as 1 battle. This means the weekly is a pain now and you don't even save time. In fact, stacking prism battles means you gotta go into a dungeon, spending more time on the game than if you just did prism battles one by one.
In light of the upcoming ani I can forgive this, but this was really underwhelming. The Bungo and Wakki christmas thing was better than all of this.
>stacked battle only counts as 1 battle
Works on my machine
On day 3, don't go straight to the mermaid. It skips the ingredient hunt for that day and the boss comes immediately afterwards.
Has anyone beaten the nightmare version of the event boss and not gotten an SS at the end? Curious how the scoring works here.
Yes, unfortunately I forgot to screenshot. I lost the first battle because I accidentally forgot to equip a booster on one character, but still handily beat the boss. I got A rank, it was around 140 or 150k? The one before getting the gems.
I got around 200k, I beat the Day 3 boss in like 12 turns or so. Forgot to screenshot.
Well I chose nightmare when I probably shouldn't have, thinking I might be able to change difficulty later (you can't as far as I can see). If you fail the fight, they just say "oh no, we lost on the last day! ok, time for sleep" and then it continues as normal
I only had 140k score which got me an A, and the counter showed I took 70+ turns because I was using some random leftover team. Where can you check the rewards for higher scores?
From what I remember, there's a small button next to the pink one for the event. I think you only really get gems, diamonds and another skill guide, so nothing important.
Goodbye Hisamecchi. Your death wasn't even written in the story...
I'm surprised they never said anything about her when the other games like Uma have already announced her replacements. Maybe they struck some deal where she still voices stuff for them, she doesn't really need to ever visit any live events or anything for this role and it's never that much to record.
For the 2 other people that actually play the game here. You can skip straight to the boss with OD3 and 20SP now on weekend bosses.
Cleared it two times and both counted towards the ssr ticket mission. That part of should be easy now as long as death slug is in town.
Also they changed the accessory slot reroll screen, which makes rerollling faster.
That's great. Beating the trash was the worst part of hard mode.
It does require clearing the dungeon portion once before it lets you skip, but with Death Slug that's easy enough. I'm still stuck with the floor 40 part of the dungeon though, but I haven't tried since the level readjustment, so it hopefully will be a bit more manageable now.
Up to and including 45, no problem. Just keep your damage types spread and let all offensive chars have aoe ultis, ideally some non elemental and/or not dark/light towards the end. I did that today. The last 5... require likely at the very least lb2 on anyone wanting to be in the front, and the offensive chars kinda need both aoe and elemental single target.. or be someone like Monaka. (very strong aoe non ulti)
It's a lot easier now, yes. I've never gone any lower than 37 when starting from 46 due to having next to no aoe ults, but the slug was a total cakewalk when I last tried it with LB1s. Just prepare OD3 and 20SP in advance, which you should easily be able to get on your way there.
She should have licked them too
>free 3k
Nice
At this rate I might actually reach 120k quartz by the time the banner I'm waiting for happens.
Time to get scammed by the lucky bag.
Nice.
Instead of rate up banners, I've decided to just save for the free step ups. I always seem to get good things there.
The step up gave me the new Yuina-senpai. Nice
>No 31E ticket
Not buying then
Pretty impressive for a game that barely gets fanart
I mean there really wasn't much competition in 2022
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1609211161916116992
>blah blah blah we're finishing 4.2, so wait a little bit more
Can they just honestly say they're delaying it until the anni?
>single rate up
>rate is still only 0.75
They just couldn't make it 1.5 instead.
i don't want to do 10 orb battles
Do two and use 5 lives each
Oh, it took me half an hour to remember that orb battles aren't prism battles
wow the 10k yen lucky bag is actually a scam. It doesn't even come with any quartz
It's not the greatest deal. I think they realized that people liked those 5k packages with bonus SS from one group, and figured to take 10k this time, and not giving you any quartz.
It's not the worst deal either, but yeah. The scam's 9 normal pulls having the full SS pool is also garbage.
The medium offer is kinda okay, but I don't really like those generic pool pull tickets. If those would be valid for banners, okay. But they sure aren't.
I wonder if there will be a new event at the end of this month or if it will be like the half anni when they just held until the event.
*until the live event
Well that'd depend on whether or not they'll have 4.2 done by then
There's no way 4.2 isn't ready for the anniversary, that would be game killing in a genuine non-doomposting way.
I would if only he didn't nuke his account for no real reason like an autist.
Tomorrow’s his birthday
Don’t forget to show him some love
Can't believe he's already pushing 50. Also still unmarried
Sub rewards are up. Got Shiki from the SS ticket fragments, pretty nice since she's one of the few SS I'm missing.
Kayamori SS2 LB3 from singles.
5 floors in these 宝珠の迷宮 dungeons without a warp is too unreasonable. I'm just an average player that autos.
Stop playing on auto there if you want to preserve dungeon energy at all. The auto AI is clinically moronic and only advisable for fights that don't cost anything if you fail.
Eh you can use auto in hoju, but you need to be appropriately powerful, have the right team for it, and select the right path for it. Well, except for the bosses. Those kinda need to be manual.
If you have life, you can trade 1 life for 30 energy. If you aren't caring about life, then that's a way to extend your stay.
But especially the later floors basically require you to use aoe ultimates in a smart way, both to charge your OD gauge as well as to kill relatively fast. Auto will never be efficient. You'd need to build a very strong and foolproof party for a specific dungeon part. And have plenty of LB on everyone.
You can do that? Since when?
The 1 life -> 30 energy thing? It's always been there.
It has not always been there, but it was added a few months in.
The frailty of Maeda's mental never ceases to surprise me
You don't write sad, depressing stories by being a normal, well functioning adult. Probably.
https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1610833465884155906
Took me a second to recognise her.
New Saku-chan tomorrow.
>Tamamo poo poo Seira
Hmm I don't like this. If we're going by how they approached Higuchi and her alt, we might be looking at another Space Higuchi. Or it can just be a useless ice +80% buffer for ice teams
It's shown in their next tweet. She's has an Ice version of Ichiko's Ult. I'm more surprised that we can see her eyes clearly now. I like her design, and I think she can make my Ice team much more viable if I get her. I'm still hoping to get Ichiko though.
That's a relief. I was worried that I'd have to buy more quartz before anniversary and the soon to be Sharo event. Though I guess this is technically the 2nd New Years pick up. They could've easily just bundled this with the Tama gacha since double rate ups and single rate ups still have the SS at a 0.75 rate.
>They could've easily just bundled this with the Tama gacha
Maybe it just wasn't ready at the time, so they delayed it for a week. If seraph.day doesn't lie, it seems her alt seraph has the same prefix as Tama, so they were clearly intended to be a set.
They both also end on the 31st. I wouldn't be surprised if they were instead testing the waters to see how much 0.75% bull they could get away with before the anniversary.
Isn't it weird to just reveal her face like that without any event or anything, just randomly drop it on a random week?
At least we'll get a prism story out of it. It never was huge talking point in the first place. I wonder if the expression sheets got updated though
Indeed, a whole new set of poses for her called Stare. Composing them is taking forever, so maybe it'll be up in a few hours.
I vastly overestimated that. There wasn't much to this update. Only 3 gacha banner images and the new unit image are new in the mega.
She looks like a completely different person now.
It looks a bit off
Kinda weird to make her ice when Wakki and Bungo are light.
Ice REALLY needed that, it's kinda fricked right now
Plus, their initial squad element is ice and her initial style was non-element neutral, so it isn't even that off. Now, just give a proper ST ice debuff to like SS2 Megumi(or just S2?) or Sharo or whatever and it's more or less tolerable to use.
I'll happily take an element being temporarily fricked over cross-squad cross-SS2 synergy being thrown out the window. Aoi could've easily gotten this on her SS2 next month instead.
>over cross-squad cross-SS2 synergy
Is that even a thing? We started with 31 alts and they had no synergy on their SS2.
*31a
In hindsight, yeah, if anything the closer thing to a pattern that we have is SS2s for nonelem SS1s inheriting the element of the rest of the squad's SS1s, which Seira2 matches. It's just frustrating if you don't care about the meta but do care about running full squads. Wakki2 is going to be massively out of place for a while.
The issue with this entire idea is that most of the essential elemental abilities were already given to the members of the initial squads, so releasing a new wave of characters doing the exact same thing would be fairly silly and kinda bad business. This is basically unsolvable until they will introduce a bunch of new viable elemental effects doing something new. That's probably also the reason why they're filling out the remaining holes before going into the new shit, we got the remaining light, lightning and ice buffs back to back one after the other.
What will Chie get, I was hoping she would get the same Ichiko/Seira buff but for light. I hope Wakki didn't displace her from getting that.
She'll get the Niina buff but for light-ning
I don't know if I want to speculate about the new abilities before 4.2 hits, I get the feeling this is where they will introduce some new mechanics that will open the door for the new tools to deal with them.
>I hope Wakki didn't displace her from getting that.
She most likely did.
What do you mean, it makes sense. Not every alt needs to work with other alts.
https://twitter.com/z8ko6vtc1A28bz0/status/1610449075304009729
A mysterious HBRgay convenience store.
I didn't know Yuina's birthday was right after. That's cute
no dungeon skip on rotary mole, i guess it's because it takes energy?
You can only skip if you did it before. If you did it before, it may be a little different this time or something.
Or energy, but that'd be dumb.
Seira's new SS is so completely underwhelming. I really like her character, but I don't even know if I want to roll for her.
She's great if you want to strengthen your ice party, otherwise no she does not offer much.
I mean, it's an okay for an alt of one of the most useful characters in the game to be a sidegrade. She's not like some other characters who don't have an ult or even don't have any purpose at all.
Pulling for who you like is liberating. A shame it always has to come at the cost of having fewer resources to pull for others you might like.
What ability would make you want to roll for her? I hope it's not only OP stuff like Seika SS2, that's more of an outlier.
Maybe her first SS set the bar too high for me, but I would have preferred a buff that's not restricted to one element. Those feel like endgame luxuries that get you 8-digit damage numbers instead of 7-digit ones while her first SS is useful everywhere. Or maybe some self-recovery with her attack skill.
To be fair, her first SS WAS useful. It's pretty much made unnecessary by now. She's an alright ice defender, that's more useful than her base SS is at this point. And it's better than what elec, light and dark have, as those have the buff on attacks, aka it doesn't scale with level.
That said, I'm still not liking them throwing out completely unneeded alts, when so many chars don't even have any SS yet.
Or Maria for example. She doesn't even have an S.
>so many chars don't even have any SS yet.
Less than 10 and some of them are clearly being saved for the upcoming events that will happen relatively soon.
Just under a 5th. 31X is all but guaranteed to get something next month, but that's still not good 11 months in.
>but that's still not good 11 months in.
Uma Musume still have characters from release not being available 2 years in while making available some random new characters they revealed a few months before adding. WFS actually could stall this roster much, MUCH longer than they did, considering there's nothing but just alts left when the last og SS gets added, they're actually much faster than I thought they would be.
That's pretty horrific.
The new 5x life thing is such a lifesaver for when I forget to log-in until before reset.
When the boss doesn't live long enough for your boss kill team to come in. It was easier than I thought. I basically used the entire 31-A, without Megumi, but instead YunYun. And that was fricking awful in the little dungeon part. Those fricking blunt weak enemies. Holy shit.
Rip boss team though. It was.. slightly based around abusing a weakness.