>heh i hate open world games. They are so empty and full of boring quests, meaningless loot and copypasted stuff
>WAIT, WAIT DRAGONS DOGMA IS DIFFERENT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. ITS EVEN MORE GENERIC THAN OTHER OPEN WORLDS BUT THATS WHAT MAKES IT SO GOOD. WHO CARES THAT IT LOOKS UGLY, I FIND IT COMFY WITH EAR GRATING COMPANIONS OVERLAPPING THE SAME LINES EVERY MINUTE. I LOVE FIGHTING THE 3 SAME ENEMIES THROUGHOUT THE GAME
Why does this game get a pass again? Its worse than the average ubisoft open world
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Based, you totally told that person you invented in your head.
It's the only way zoomers can debate.
Black folk have been strawmanning for frickin ever you ponce.
>its okay when Black folk do it
>moronic zoomer
check
wienersuck op oblidevastareted
BTFO
no one defends the open world in dragon's dogma you dumb troony
so you admit its a dogshit game?
no, I admit the open world is by far the worst aspect of it
at least ur honest
>at least ur honest
what do you mean its not very open in the first place.
Heh… dragons dogshit…
No you dumb moron it's good in spite of the open world
The only game that people ever praise for the open world is botw and botw gays are rightfully mocked for it
This is the biggest cope ever and the fact that you deflected to BOTW when nobody mentioned it seals the deal
One of the biggest praises is the comfy dungeons and dragons open world that people here have been praising for over a decade. Many people have said that dragons dogma is the best open world in many threads. I have seen the countless praise for its world on this board endlessly
So then the moment people expose it as a boring and dogshit world, suddenly DDgays like yourself pretended you gays have never praised the world? Absolutely hilarious. Dragons Dogma fans are easily the most fricking obnoxious gaslighters on this board
You're off your rocker. I doubt you've ever seen a review by anyone saying "the world" was amazing. There are definitely lots of places in-the world that you can travel to that are nice but one of the #1 complaints by fans is about how small the map is.
Maybe you're confusing people being in love with the monsters that inhabit the world being the best version of D&D creatures ever made, with liking the world.
At any rate I'd go see a doctor about how traded I was if I were you.
nah anyone that's actually played it knows the open world is tiny and wouldn't jerk that part off unless they were so hypercasual that it's the only open world game they ever played
It's the best unfinished game ever made. This has always been it's tagline on Ganker.
You lost
So it's unplayable then
The open world in DD may be the worst aspect of the game but it's still better than Ubishit.
How so
the game isn't go around and smell the flowers you fricking idiot
i do
I do. DDs open world is unironically good. It's relatively small in comparison to other games but that's a good thing. In DD almost anywhere/everywhere you can go there is something fun, cool, or interesting to see. All true content in the real sense, a new dungeon, a new area, new enemy types, new things to see and do, items to collect. Unlike Skyrim or Asscreed which is just 90% utterly copy pasted bullshit with nothing to do expect collect your Xth gold piece or randomly generated "gear" with random bullshit "stats".
I would rather have 10000 DD open worlds than even one single more Skyrim-esque open world.
>It's relatively small in comparison to other games but that's a good thing.
It needed to be bigger. Having the outpost full of starving men be a 2 minute walk from Gran Soren really broke immersion. Comparatively, seeing bluemoon tower in the distance and being able to walk to it was awesome. The sequel should have other capital cities like the one Mason is from.
>Having the outpost full of starving men be a 2 minute walk from Gran Soren really broke immersion.
Not really. This happens often in real life.
Sometimes, I think rich people at times even like to have poor/impoverished people near them so they'd have someone to flaunt their wealth over.
>Sometimes, I think rich people at times even like to have poor/impoverished people near them so they'd have someone to flaunt their wealth over.
The outpost isn't a group of poorgays that the rich were laughing at, it was a military outpost of people from Gran Soren.
I know that.
I'm just saying that something like that isn't as immersion breaking as anon claims it is.
It's immersion breaking in the context of the game and the story. Why would you look at it any other way? An outpost starving because of a lack of supplies that the capital is willing and able to send doesn't make sense when it's such a short walk away. The hydra head delivery makes more sense because it's a longer journey and requires you to go through some narrow canyons filled with enemies and falling rocks.
You realize that outpost is past ruins, across a bridge, and then up a hill from the city? you getting there in 2 minutes is a gameplay concession.
>past ruins
You mean the ones near the entrance to the catacombs? You don't even need to go by those if you take the north exit out of Gran Soren.
>across a bridge
A very stable and wide stone bridge, not a suspension bridge over a ravine. It's no different from a regular road.
>and then up a hill from the city?
It's not a hill, it's just a small incline that still has a road going across it. You're really stretching to make it sound more perilous than it is, especially when they already made a similar quest work with the hydra head.
>You mean the ones near the entrance to the catacombs? You don't even need to go by those if you take the north exit out of Gran Soren.
no I mean the crumbling outer ring area outside the city infested with bandits and gobbos.
>A very stable and wide stone bridge, not a suspension bridge over a ravine. It's no different from a regular road.
I'm not using these places as challenges anon. I'm using these places for sense of scale.
>It's not a hill, it's just a small incline that still has a road going across it.
4u, because if they made you spend even 15 minutes trudging your ass up a medium sized hill you'd put the fricking game down, and rightfully so.
There is another quest where Aldous tells you that they have been defrauding the kingdom out of resources, and at the end someone from Windbluff Tower tells you he's been bullshitting the king to advance himself politically. Try actually playing the game.
Yes, I'm aware of that quest. What does that have to do with the tower not being far from Gran Soren or across any perilous terrain that would make delivering food there difficult? Please be specific in answering what I actually asked instead of making moronic comments to try to turn this into me not having played the game.
>infested with bandits and gobbos.
Which one of these do you think you need to pass through to reach the outpost?
>I'm using these places for sense of scale.
It's a small bridge along the way. It helps, but it's peanuts compared to the first big delivery the game does.
>because if they made you spend even 15 minutes trudging your ass up a medium sized hill you'd put the fricking game down, and rightfully so.
I'm probably one of ten people on this board that's never complained about the speed of the ox, so no. If you're going to make a spectacle about the difficulty of reaching an area, it should be more than a casual 2 minute jog.
>Which one of these do you think you need to pass through to reach the outpost?
again, its not the danger, they just live there. I'm talking scale here. though that is a thing.
>It's a small bridge along the way. It helps, but it's peanuts compared to the first big delivery the game does.
you don't seem to be grasping that it's only "small" because its a video game and making a bridge a 5 minute walk would be dumb for a video game.
>I'm probably one of ten people on this board that's never complained about the speed of the ox, so no. If you're going to make a spectacle about the difficulty of reaching an area, it should be more than a casual 2 minute jog.
first off no one is making a spectacle of it. it's a "slipped through the cracks" scenario than Julien slyly uses to his advantage. you have to seek the homie out when there is nothing of value at that fort at that point to you, then you're given the option to just report it to a guy right outside the castle and he goes "oh shit alright here you go take it to them" or you go to Julien and do the same but with extra affection all around.
second, it's a still a ways that your brain can't seem to compute goes beyond the bounds of what we play. how do you get enjoyment from vidya with no imagination?
>making a bridge a 5 minute walk would be dumb for a video game
Maybe to you, I think it’d be kino
you think that until you're halfway through your 5th pass to kill a monster on the hill. could you imagine walking to bluemoon tower on that scale? would take a full day just to one shot the griffin. that's just tedium. a bridge that scale would have to be a focal point for a game, but this is just a rando fricking bridge to keep you from getting soaked to the bone!
>I'm talking scale here
But you don't actually need to pass through that area. If you take the north exit out of Gran Soren, you don't actually cross those ruins.
>you don't seem to be grasping that it's only "small" because its a video game and making a bridge a 5 minute walk would be dumb for a video game.
And yet they already did it with a giant ravine just a few quests earlier in the game.
>first off no one is making a spectacle of it
You tried talking up a small bridge and slight pitch in slope as indicators of large scale. You're very much trying to make a spectacle out of it.
>second, it's a still a ways that your brain can't seem to compute goes beyond the bounds of what we play. how do you get enjoyment from vidya with no imagination?
See the problem is that the game has examples of the same idea but done far better. First is the hydra head delivery which requires you to go on a semi-long trip through a ravine which does a good job of forcing you through enemies and falling rocks, and visually is smart because the high cliff walls make it so that you can't see where you departed from or where you're going for a bulk of the middle of the journey. When you hunt the griffin, you can see bluemoon from Gran Soren off in the distance, but it's clearly far away. While you walk there, you actually have to pass through a den of bandits and a golem, and once again the game is smart about obstructing your view for the middle part of your journey which adds to the sense of scale and distance. That's good game design. In your effort to sound like you have some sort of imagination/fantasy enjoying high ground, you ignored all these clever design choices that the game employs at other parts and tried defending the one example of poor execution it had not by focusing on specific elements of how it creates the illusion of distance like I did, but by making a hollow shitpost about imagination. You're too stupid to enjoy good world building.
>But you don't actually need to pass through that area. If you take the north exit out of Gran Soren, you don't actually cross those ruins.
the north exit road goes parallel with the ruins bro, and you go well past them to the bridge. again, its about scale.
>And yet they already did it with a giant ravine just a few quests earlier in the game.
the road from gransys to that outpost is almost exactly the same amount of walk time as the ravine before bluemoon. imagine multiplying it by whatever makes the bridge alone a 5 minute walk then get back to me.
>You tried talking up a small bridge and slight pitch in slope as indicators of large scale. You're very much trying to make a spectacle out of it.
I thought we were talking about the in-game scale but seeing that next wall of text (that I'm not reading lmao) you obviously just want to argue. unfortunately I don't argue with tards, just mock them, so have fun seething or finger painting or whatever.
>the north exit road goes parallel with the ruins bro
The ruins are to your left. You don't pass through them. Learn what words mean.
>the road from gransys to that outpost is almost exactly the same amount of walk time as the ravine before bluemoon.
>bluemoon
You're so fricking stupid, holy shit. Learn to read English before your next argument.
>You're an illiterate moron who doesn't even understand what they're arguing about
>F-Filtered!
You're supposed to do that in Dark Souls threads, not DD threads.
>Yes, I'm aware of that quest. What does that have to do with the tower not being far from Gran Soren or across any perilous terrain that would make delivering food there difficult? Please be specific in answering what I actually asked instead of making moronic comments to try to turn this into me not having played the game.
their food supplies are being held up because the duke thinks they have excess resources from false claims jesus christ do i need to spell it the frick out
You stupid fricking Black person, the problem is not about the supplies, the problem is about the perceived difficulty of gathering or transporting them. If a soldier could walk to Gran Soren, get food for themself, and walk back to the tower all within 15 minutes then you can sell it as a believable problem at all. It's like complaining that your office doesn't have a kitchen or cafeteria when there's a supermarket and 3 fast food stores across the street.
there's 4 of them there
>you stupid fricking Black person
you think one of them is going to go confront all those goblins, bandits, harpies, wolves etcetera?
>there's 4 of them there
No there's not, play the game.
>you think one of them is going to go confront all those goblins, bandits, harpies, wolves etcetera?
The only things you have to run by are one small group of low level goblins that don't even aggro if you run by them. Play the fricking game.
>In DD almost anywhere/everywhere you can go there is something fun, cool, or interesting to se
you're delusional man
Prove me wrong than homosexual. Go play DD and see how every area of the map is a distinct area. The city, the starting town, the woods, the mountain, beach areas, blue moon tower, BBI (which is its own entirely separate area), and more. I'm not saying it's perfect but it is infinitely better than the pure monotony of games like skyrim, ass creed, even BOTW which is just like one big open field where you find "dungeons" to do. It's all bullshit, atleast DD has fun and cool areas to see and play in.
>even BOTW which is just like one big open field where you find "dungeons" to do.
DD is one of my all time favorite games, but its open world can't match BotW. BotW has more biomes and varied topography, and the depth of combat DD has, BotW put into environmental movement and interactions.
>BoTW
>Combat depth as DD has
Bwahahahahaha
How is it even possible to be this much of an ESLmoron?
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Why do ESL insects misread posts entirely, argue against something no one said, and then think they won?
>go play DD
you are delusional
Nice work on those achievements, Anonisen.
>>In DD almost anywhere/everywhere you can go there is something fun, cool, or interesting to se
>implying anyone is buying this a second time when they didn't buy the first
really though outline what part of that is delusional. which area is boring to you with nothing to do?
Are you truly and seriously saying that games like Skyrim, Asscreed, and the like, are better open worlds than DD? Are you sure you aren't the one that's delusional? Again, DDs open world isn't perfect, but it is far, far better than other open world games which are nothing but open empty space full of randomly generated terrain garbage and random garbage dungeons full of nothing interesting. Or "open world" which is just 100kmx100km of nothingness. Wide as an open, deep as a fricking raindrop. Atleast DD is as wide and as deep as Olympic pool where you actually have shit to do, fun content, cool places to go, etc.
>Are you truly and seriously saying that games like Skyrim [...] are better open worlds than DD?
Yes
>Are you truly and seriously saying that games like Skyrim, Asscreed, and the like, are better open worlds than DD?
why the frick are you putting words in my mouth, I NEVER said anything like that you dishonest piece of shit. I won't even bother reading the rest
Implications you moron c**t. If you're saying DDs open world isn't good, you must be saying other open world games (Skyrim, BOTW, etc) are good. Which I personally find to be not good as I've stated. You're saying I'm "delusional" for thinking DDs open world is good (which it is), but offer no examples of what you think is a good open world in comparison.
>implications you moron c**t. If you're saying DDs open world isn't good, you must be saying other open world games (Skyrim, BOTW, etc) are good.
seek help you disingenuous moronic homosexual
Still offered no examples of what you think is a good open world. If you don't like open world games at all (which I can sympathize with since most of them are absolute trash), you can say that too. Otherwise you're just a sewer sludge slurping b***h who is incapable of giving examples. Rope yourself.
>still not giving an example
you didn't play the game
moron
>so assblasted and embarrassed he waited hours later to reply
LMAO
He had to reset his router and switch IP please understand.
Not everyone in this thread is the same anon lmao, I just can't believe you spent almost 1k hours in such a desolate open world
I can right click save pictures too you lying sack of shit.
I sure had fun exploring a diverse interesting world where you run into rocks and grass and the same three enemies ten million times.
I do, only game that has a true Adventuring feel since it has preparing to explore and travel, having night as a dangerous time.
yes this is totallyhas more impact on exploration and immersion than the empty world with no rewards, fixed and predictable enemy spawns, places that are locked down by the main story quest, the same 5 enemies through the whole game, only one city...
Best part of Dragon's Dogma is by far BBI, especially because it's so focused and linear
Can we ignore the homosexual OP and can some anons rent my pawn? Ill rent yours back and im gonna be farming a lot of BBI
sure
you got any items you want? I feel like grinding today
I'll trade ya!
someone gimme a BBI ready mage/sorcerer. I've got this guy
(he's lvl 90 now btw)
seething at a fictional argument
I remember the first wave of DD people actually did try to act like the open world part was good, they'd go on and on about how atmospheric it was to be running around at night with a lantern like that isn't cool for 15 minutes before you get beaten down by how bad DD did open world.
It was the second wave of DD:DA people that were like nah the open world is shit, bulletin board quests are shit, and you should rush the main quest which will take you everywhere anyway.
>before you get beaten down by how bad DD did open world.
you can just say you got filtered bro. happens to everyone at first.
L3 sprinting and chugging large mushrooms isn't the most enjoyable thing. And before the added portcrystals, imagine that shit.
it's not too big to where it becomes a problem though. I don't have to imagine it either, I played back on PS3 first. of course I got btfo on the first runs escort missions but only once. if you rest in cassardis you can make it to the rest point before the shadow fort at sundown. if you rest at the encampment you can make it to the waygate by midday or frick around on the way and have to do the hydra escort at night. it's honestly perfectly sized.
also when you're running you can jump just before you run out of stamina, let go of the stick (or w) and push it back up/in before you hit the ground and your guy will hit the ground on his jog. helps to not break pace.
Oh, the MEMORIES
Except it is fun to stroll around at night because zombies and skeletons start coming up from underground to ambush you, and you can't see very far so it turns into a mini survival horror game for a bit. I got ambushed by a giant fricking chimera out of nowhere because it's so dark.
The fact that nights (and some indoor areas) are dark as frick and you have to use a lantern which only illuminates your immediate surroundings is incredibly soulful and I wish more games did it.
The open world has way too many enemies, you go basically two steps and you're fighting another pack of trash mobs. I agree that the dungeons are great, but there are like five or so? Overall the world is just small, which is a shame because I'd love to explore more of it.
>The open world has way too many enemies, you go basically two steps and you're fighting another pack of trash mobs.
just gobbos but yeah I agree they're aids. I don't even fight them half the time after a ways in the game. just leisurely stroll past the bastards.
Weird thing is that during my first playthrough the world seemed fricking gigantic. It was only after I’d explored everything that I felt sad about there not being more to do.
This is like the total opposite of Elden Ring, in which the game is so goddamn huge that you actually get sick of exploring it.
>The fact that nights (and some indoor areas) are dark as frick and you have to use a lantern which only illuminates your immediate surroundings is incredibly soulful
It is, but it can be pretty aggravating. I wish the game had a lunar phase system that made night less dark on full moons and more on new moons.
But the night is atmospheric and cool. Way too few games are willing to go complete, can't see anything dark.
And the direwolves. The never ending direwolves.
Terrible, terrible opinion. The open world doesn't have great replay value, but on a first playthrough it is pure kino. It's big enough to feel like an adventure, but small enough that it doesn't overshadow the game.
Exploring the world isn't really the point in the same way it is in Skyrim or Elden Ring. There's not a lot to be gained from combing through DD's world like you would in those other games. It's there to provide a meaningful journey along the way to your objectives.
Nights being actually dangerous was fun as frick though. It was one of the good things about the game. I wish more games made you feel a sense of dread and tension in the dark.
Consider suicide
the truth hurts huh?
>anon loses argument against the voices in his head
who are you quoting
The open world is shit but the gameplay is beyond. this is something you western developers will never get a hang of because you prioritize pozzing over good gameplay
You could just play Monster Hunter or DMC instead
>could just play inferior games
moron.
>the gameplay is beyond
Beyond shit, yeah. That melee combat gameplay is embarrassing. Not to mention the game is piss easy from start to finish.
the game became fun for me as soon as I figured out how to kick the ox in THAT one quest
I actually dropped it a couple of times in the past because of that particular quest
you can even get a mage pawn to heal the ox by getting them to conjure anodyne near it or somewhere in it's patch
>i've been playing the game for years
>found out about that literally last week
i have no excuse
The frick does kick the ox mean?
>Why does this game get a pass again?
because its crapcum
I like the open world it has lots of little secrets everywhere and unique locations and layouts.
>Skyrim
meh
>Skyrim made by JAPAN
YES YES YES
this kek
Different countries have different game design philosophies, no shit.
This but unironically
it's not like skyrim at all
is there a dragons dogma combat in skyrim mod?
Call me when a skyrim mod adds climbing monsters
You can do that to dragons but its just a cutscene finisher.
Yeah but this does more.
Skyrim doesnt have stingers and helm splitters, frickface. Anyway, heres that (You) you asked for.
You are that kind of idiot who always makes comparison between Terraria and Minecraft, are you?
I like DD because you can create a (robust) character TWICE, have a diverse party of strange semi-people and mounting dragons is cool.
Also, SOMEHOW, enemies don't blend into the background than it is in Skyrim/Fallout (or any Bethesda game really)
You can't "chose your own adventure" though, you're stuck in the cycle.
>skyrim
Big open but EMPTY AS FRICK world
>skyrim, Japan
Open world but filled with actual content and long-term goals you can set yourself, better story
>skyrim, japan
>Big open but EMPTY AS FRICK world, but with collectable golden shit haphazardly strewn around
ftfy, weeb.
Base.
Dragons dogma has mind broken the zoomers.
Who are you quoting?
rolling
Let's go flying into free, mother fricker
rolling rolling rolling
Why not
Frick it
am I doing myself a disservice from looking up a side quest guide? I know I can just do the side quests I missed during ng+ but now that I know how many missable side quests there are it's kinda hart to resist the temptation of doing them all
>I NEED 100% completion on my first playthrough
no you don't. actively hunting them down takes their charm away anyway, they're not very special on their own. if you revisit cassardis frequently you'll find most of them anyway
I'd say the only side quest that locks you out of a considerable chunk of content is the Witchwood one. most of the others are just ways to increase affinity with certain NPCs; if you have a liking to one of them it's nice to try doing their quests. although this game has a liking for permanently deleting an npc from the game's world as your reward for completing their questline
if dragon's dogma had sold 20 million copies Ganker would shit on it constantly you should know how this moronic troony board function already
i played through DD:DA for the first time this week after years of getting my hopes up from Ganker and it was boring as frick
it's straight up janky and nothing in the game flows well
no you didn't
>bought the game because they're a bandwaggoning homosexual
>played the tutorial and rushed through it not trying to interact with any of the game mechanics
>came to Ganker to shitpost
Hello, Fromdrone zoomer.
i did interact with game mechanics, and when i found out that they were poorly done and all the side content was useless, i decided not to waste my time
>i did interact with game mechanics
No you didn't. You played for a few minutes, spammed light attack, maybe climbed one cyclops and then decided the combat was boring and there was nothing else to the game.
>played for a few minutes
>posted screenshot of 21 hours played in the thread
yeah i'm thinking he's not feeling so good mr. stark
>implying anyone believes you in the slightest
why do you care tho?
because you schizophrenics made me waste 21 hours of my life
you got me, i fell for the dd being good meme
no you didn't, but again, why are you even trying to convince anyone? you aren't supposed to get too close to your shitposts.
It's a game where a single full run can easily go over 100 hours. 20 hours barely scratches the surface.
>and they can refute everything you come up with?
When did that happen? All I've seen are a few angry zoomers that have been spamming threads for the past week because they bought a game they saw had threads on Ganker and are mad that they're shit at video games with actual thought put into the design.
>a single full run can easily go over 100 hours
85 of which are spent running back and forth between gran soren and the edge of the map just to do a fetch quest
>When did that happen? All I've seen are a few angry zoomers that have been spamming threads for the past week because they bought a game they saw had threads on Ganker and are mad that they're shit at video games with actual thought put into the design.
read the thread brainiac
>85 of which are spent running back and forth between gran soren and the edge of the map just to do a fetch quest
Not in DDDA.
>read the thread brainiac
I did. All I see are angry zoomer morons who put down Elden Ring for a minute to play the game they saw spammed on Ganker.
>I did. All I see are angry zoomer morons who put down Elden Ring for a minute to play the game they saw spammed on Ganker.
never even opened the game
another confirmed kill by the ddda hater
>another confirmed kill by the ddda hater
It's funny that you think you've made anything even resembling a point anywhere in this thread.
>get angry that someone didn't like my favorite wittle game
>make post out of anger, typing a half-brained rant
>get refuted
>become angrier
many such cases!
>type like an underage thirdworlder
>be wrong about everything you say
>"H-Haha, I btfo'd you!"
What a pathetic little wretch.
No, you can teleport there by default.
If you didn't at least reach the post-game you didn't really play it tho
>if you didn't sniff every blade of virtual grass you haven't actually played the game
yes, i made it to post-game
You got through everfall? Got through BBI and at least defeat Daimon 1?
Holy shit. What a dumb frick. Same type of baby who whines about derp souls being too hard. Go play club penguin baby.
>bought the game because they're a bandwaggoning homosexual
another one bites the dust
>20 hours played
>just recently hit that timer
Sure.
does it make you seethe when you try to attack someone because they didn't wike your favowit wittle game and they can refute everything you come up with? 🙁
Black person, i began the saturday and have only 18+ hours and haven't even arrived at the north part of the castle, you literally completely missed the point
Post your completion trophy you lying sack of shit.
haters will say it's not real
I played it on PS3 back then and it was crap
>that leveling system
>that inventory system
>the whole pawn garbage
>surprisingly average combat
>game decide your lover for you
>shit graphics, even worse art
But I'm still glad Itsuno is making the sequel, Capcom fricked him for the first by rushing the game to market while it was half finished.
>half finished
I remember reading some interview that said that the original release shipped with like 20% of the content they had planned, nevermind envisioned
>it's straight up janky and nothing in the game flows well
When you make complaints, try not to be objectively wrong. The game isn't janky at all.
Dragon's Dogma maybe my favorite game of all time but it's got some jank. All fixable in the sequel though.
What jank? I've never had anything bug out or glitch or quest triggers frick up. Obscure mechanics, sure, but not jank.
Jank doesn't just mean "bugs" it means anything that lacks polish in the game which sometimes includes bugs. There's an augment that was supposed to halve the physical damage you took that was actually doubling it did it for years. Thats a big.
The jank comes in the fact that you have to pause the scroll through a thousand pages of inventory in the middle of intense battles to do simple little things like arm special arrows or pull out a water flask. That jank doesn't align with the brilliant combat the game delivers.
>Jank doesn't just mean "bugs"
It doesn't just mean bugs, but it does mean things like physics engines or enemy AI cycles not working together properly.
>There's an augment that was supposed to halve the physical damage you took that was actually doubling it did it for years. Thats a big.
Yeah, bugged augments are jank.
>you have to pause the scroll through a thousand pages of inventory in the middle of intense battles to do simple little things like arm special arrows or pull out a water flask.
That's not jank.
>Literally admits its bad
>proving his argument that the game is jank
>BUT MUH SOVL
Kek dragons dogma gays really are a cult
Saying that menuing is jank doesn't give you a point.
A game's quality isn't a binary switch of just "Awful Broken Beta" and "Flawless Masterpiece".
The menu system is literally better than most open world games I've played (see: the absolute mess that is Witcher 3's, or the hard to navigate shit of Skyrim), it's functional and it even has cool details other games don't bother with like your character's weight and height affecting how much you can carry, carrying too much slowing you down, being too light making if harder to go through windy areas, etc. Please explain how you would improve it, Mr. Game Design Genius, taking in consideration the controller limitations stated before.
>keep telling some moron that the game was rushed and unpolished
>oh yeah here's an unpolished aspect of the game, haha I win
Ok we'll just keep having fun playing our game, while you go play? You do play games and have fun, don't you?
>That jank doesn't align with the brilliant combat the game delivers.
of course it does, that's why the games is full of SOVL. those menu moments are assessment moments. the action is good but this game isn't DMC or NG. tactics are just as important as action and giving you respite to think and gather yourself is a plus. the menu healing is offset by carry capacity and pawns being morons that will use all your shit if you try to have them hold it.
In the middle of a fricking epic battle where characters are climbing each other, tossing each other around, shit is exploding everywhere etc. you're seriously going to defend being forced to pause and spend 30 minutes navigating through sloppy menus to pull out the 1 thing you need? That should have been a quickselect popup menu that housed the shit i need in battle; that i can pop up and get rid of in half a second.
>you're seriously going to defend being forced to pause and spend 30 minutes navigating through sloppy menus to pull out the 1 thing you need?
No I'm going to call you stupid for spending 30 minutes doing that when it should take seconds. Shit Black person do you even hotswap? This isn't a game issue, it's a you issue. How could even carry that much stuff?
I'm 100% certain you're too stupid to even learn that there are a bunch of things in the inventory that can throw by hand that have specific effects but the menu system is so clunky that nobody ever bothers with it because you'd have to pause and scroll through the menu dozen s if time in just one battle if you wanted to use them.
The pausing is jank and needs to be gone from dd2 get your head out of your ass.
nah I just find bombs and periapts cringe. this is my usual loadout for BBI right now. might add some stuff but this is all I need.
Of course you use wakestones. Talk about cringe. Come talk to after you've actually beat the game for the 1st time.
>Come talk to after you've actually beat the game for the 1st time.
tell me you haven't beaten the game without telling me you haven't beaten the game.
Meme some more loser. Maybe it'll help you cope with being a little wakestone using, pausing, curative & buff spamming weakling.
I don't think I'm the one coping here but here's a meme for your seethe.
Run out of arguments so now you post pictures. Wayda do. You're a master debator.
our older posts still exist ya know. I don't know why you'd try to act level headed now.
Some dude said he liked the pausing and it worked well with the current system.
I'm winning if I disagree and think it could be better? Wtf
Okay you win. Pausing is wonderful. I hope DD2 is a nonstop pausefest because they made everything perfect the 1st game.
glad we're on the same page.
disingenuous
it takes two seconds to use a curative
go gargle some cum you homosexual troony Black person
I have my curatives bound already dummy. I'm taking about all the other stuff that would be nice to use but are too much of a pain in the ass to get to with the current menu system.
the fricking inventory is already sorted for you
whats the fricking damage
are you moronic? why does it take so long for you to navigate simple menus?
I don't think PC Steam version has the hotkey system.
It takes 2 seconds for me to use a curative with my controller and no hotkeys, and about 3 seconds to use my lantern
Ok.
>and spend 30 minutes navigating through sloppy menus to pull out the 1 thing you need?
Even without the hotkeys, it doesn't take more than 4 seconds to menu over to an item you might want to use. You're an idiot.
Okay great. You want to toss skulls in a battle?
>pause, scroll through menus for 4 seconds, find skull unusual, throw skull
>pause, scroll through menus for 4 seconds, find skull unusual, throw skull
>pause, scroll through menus for 4 seconds, find skull unusual, throw skull
>pause, scroll through menus for 4 seconds, find skull unusual, throw skull
Yeah brilliant game design. Much better than just letting me temporarily equip all the skulls i want to throw in real time.
Yes, equippable items mapped to a key would have been better, but you're wildly overselling how long it actually takes to do. I just started a new game and throwblasted the gazer to death. Equipping a new throwblast happens from muscle memory in about a second.
You can also give that shit to your pawn and watch them go crazy with it
Besides the throwblasts there are countless other things that could be used in battle that aren't utilized because of the clunky menu system. You shouldn't have to rely on muscle memory try to convince yourself that it's not a bad system right now.
Other games have come up with solutions to these things and I hope I never have to pause a single time during combat in DD2.
>Besides the throwblasts there are countless other things that could be used in battle that aren't utilized because of the clunky menu system
such as?
The pie, knife, skull, waterflask, to name a few.
Toss a water flask at an enemy then nail them with an ice or lightning enchanted weapon.
first off most of those are more janky than the menu system. have you ever actually tried throwing the knife? its awful. it being there adds but not much and not well. second, you literally just outlined how its utilized so whats the problem? that it wasn't spelled out for you? that you have to fumble in your pocket for it?
The problem is the constant pausing introduced into the game.
The solution shouldn't be you've decided not to like throwing inventory items to pausing is great.
And I'm not saying I'd be against more hotkeys, I'm saying your whining like a little b***h is well overselling the issues it causes and how hard it clashes.
>You shouldn't have to rely on muscle memory try to convince yourself that it's not a bad system right now.
I literally said that it could be better. It's just not as much of an issue as you're pretending it is to spend a second doing menuing in an rpg.
why are you throwing that many skulls
It inflicts curse on your enemies.
in what scenario is this helpful?
Curse is a debilitation which reduces the Strength, Defense, and Stamina of the afflicted.
Basically makes enemies half as strong while affected.
I'm aware of what it does, I just can't think of a scenario where that seems like a trick to keep skulls on hand for. Frickers are heavy and getting hit is a no-no anyway.
Then don't ask stupid questions dumb shit. Had to look it up in the wiki for you and everything since i didn't know either.
dis homie.
They do that? Cool, I've been giving my skulls and rocks and foreign knives to my pawns since they seem to use them a lot. I assumed they just did a bit of damage.
I thought the inventory system was good enough for what it is, having to stop the action sucks but I suppose there was no way around it since the game already uses every single button on a controller (which may also be why there's no lock-on button)
Yeah, people hype it up a lot and it's one of if not my favorite game, but that's because the elements I enjoy shine through in spite all the other insufferable aspects of the game.
If it doesn't grab you and you don't like it that's pretty understandable. Game's great if you're able to look past the garbage inventory management, the shitty noticeboard quests, the stupid choice to make sprinting drain stamina in the overworld, and a slew of other issues.
Personally it was the monster encounters and the classic fantasy/mythology inspired designs that really pulled me in, and the everfall/BBI greatly elevate the experience by focusing on the combat encounters and dungeon crawling.
The reason everyone wants a sequel is because there are so many glaring flaws and blatantly unfinished components of the game, so I just hope DDII is more well rounded.
you are the type of person that i'm glad i exist
a non-mentally ill, rational, dragon's dogma fan that can acknowledge a person's opinion when they say they didn't like the game
i hope DD2 is good, just for you
The open world in dragon's dogma isn't even that bad. It's just too small. It only takes like 5 hours to clear the map so having few enemy types is passable.
playing thru the game for the first t ime and ive been enjoying it, having to walk constantly between places was annoying for a bit but finding the port stones was neat.
(Made me wish ds3 went through with the "create a bonfire" mechanic)
Combat has been really fun as a magick archer, just seeing a room full of enemies explode with ricochet or locking down a cyclops with shadowshackle. Wish the pawn system had made it into other games just without the annoying voice lines.
The open world in DD is genuinely great though, it's not too big, there are interesting landmarks everywhere, exploring feels rewarding, and it even does fast travel better than other games in the genre since the DA update. It also has some of the best dungeons in the genre, which are all unique, handcrafted and actually feel like dungeons, especially Bitterblack Isle.
My one gripe with it is that the enemies respawn way too fast so you're constantly being assaulted by "WOLVES, ARISEN".
>especially Bitterblack Isle.
I agree with what you said concerning the main game but BBI doesn't fit this bill. it's like 4-5 rooms you just do over and over and they're not particularly interesting with one of them being a straight up arena.
I was talking about it feeling the most like a real dungeon from a dungeon crawling game. The dungeons in the main game are a bit too short for that.
>I was talking about it feeling the most like a real dungeon from a dungeon crawling game.
That I can agree on, I just think it clashes since the main games had a good mix of vidya dungeon and realistic layouts.
I like BBI but I see what you mean, I think the Catacombs probably had the best balance.
>*runs for 10 entire seconds*
>*falls on the ground from asphyxiation*
>heh i hate open world games
DD, BotW, Morrowind and JC2 are some of my favorite games. Only moronic zoomers who think Ubisoft invented open world games think open world games are bad by default because they're too young to remember 7th gen linear hell, and way too young to remember that open world games before modern Ubishit and Skyrim quest markers existed.
>linear hell
You need to be at least 18 to post here
You need to be at least 30 to pretend your opinion on linear vs open matters. Zoomers b***hing about open world games and insisting that linear is automatically good level design are moronic.
you don't even know what you lost, zoomer-kun.
I'll never understand why Ganker is so contrarian about open world games.
I like the open world in saints row 2, mafia 1, witcher 3, botw, elden ring, dragons dogma, Kingdom of amalur, gta 3, and 4.
Most of these games used to be liked by Ganker.
Dragons Dogma is like if SotC didn't suck or alternatively if Elden Ring was good.
Eat it homosexuals, the world in DD is not empty as it always provides you with something for going out unlike modern filth games where you are better off just running away like a little b***h.
>the world in DD is not empty as it always provides you with something for going out
bait
You can disable pawn chatter in the settings.
I thought the open world was cool in the postgame
the only good part of this game is the dungeon which is unironically at the end of the game. this game is fricking pathetic, whoever was in charge of directing this POS should die
>the dungeon
you don't even know what you're talking about. this reads like a post an AI wrote
and you obviously didnt even bother to beat the game, i dont blame you
I've beaten this game more times than you've beaten any game in your life. not a single person refers to the Everall as "the dungeon", nor does it do anything particularly better than the rest of the game. again, you have no clue what you're talking about
>nor does it do anything particularly better than the rest of the game.
Not him and everything else you've said is right, but when you don't have BBI to compare it against, Everfall is a pretty cool post game dungeon as a concept. BBI just does everything it tried to do 10 times better so no one gives a shit about it now.
i dont give a single frick if youve played some shit tier game a hundred times, theres a dungeon at the end of the game. cope, seethe, dilate, loser.
what is our strategy for this thread, brothers? my discord frickdaddy didn't DM me the posting rules today 🙁
lmao this can't be real, right? discordtrannies can't be this pathetic
>be level 15
>pick up escort quest to lead a guy off to some place in the northwest that I've never heard of
>apparently can't cancel it without failing the quest
>decide to try going through with it
>can't reach the destination before nightfall
>keep getting slaughtered by bandits
>also for some reason there's a manticore just sitting there waiting to eat me
Did I frick up and take a quest that's supposed to be done at a higher level, or am I just shit?
Don't bother with escort quests unless you know where you are supposed to take the person (it's always a landmark that gets marked on your map), you can even drop a portcrystal there in advance and instantly teleport the guy to the place. Also they are completely optional, only worry about them if you want a specific reward or want to build affinity with the character. For example, early on you can escort the blacksmith for a Bastard Sword that is way better than what you can have at that point.
>Ganker likes game
>fastfoward a few years after trannies and redditors flock here
>Ganker hates this game
Many such cases
I love Dragon's Dogma, but I still can't stand the cultists. Can't like any game except for DD:DA, New Vegas, VTMB, Planescape because those are the "Ganker approved games", huh? It's just embarrassing.
Why are you getting offended? I'm not shitting on the game, I'm shitting on the hivemind.
that you think its a hivemind is a you problem anon.
>2008 poster complaining about the cancer killing Ganker
This website never changes
he was right tho? are we reading the same thread?
No, he’s not. Well, kind of. He wants the abnormals on Ganker to entertain him, like a sideshow. He’s just as bad as the normalgays. Arguably worse. He’s a normalgay that showed up to the site to see the heckin crazies, stuck around just long enough to learn the lingo, and then gets mad when people like him show up to the site.
I couldn't care less where anyone comes from or why as long as they aren't acting like a homosexual. When they are then they get shit. So it goes.
Ganker has always been shit, and complaining about how shit Ganker has gotten and how Ganker is getting worse and/or dying is an important part of Ganker culture.
With that said, Ganker is utter shit now, a bunch of tryhard teens finding ways to parrot /misc/ talking points instead of talking about vidya. No creativity, no good memes, a barren cultureless wasteland.
And Twitter/Reddit talking points.
But you loved the blacked spam raids, right?
anon, you're mad you get dabbed on because you can't articulate why you like things or see why others dislike them. maybe just rub your braincells together and figure yourself out instead of giving a shit about anonymous people you'll never know's opinions, yeah?
Replaying DD after not touching it for many years. Got to Gran Soren and it locked me out of the witchwood. And, after getting to GS I already felt like I've seen the whole game.
I just can't take these open world shits any more.
you literally hasn't properly fought a single one of the bigger creatures in the game by the time you get to Gran Soren
Dragons Dogma is good, and is getting a sequel.
Seethe more trannies
Time to get another 200 hours of fun in, thanks for the reminder OP
>dd
>open world
What are some good tips to get people to rent your pawn that doesnt involve making them e-girl #875623961498716249167498`639`62389`723409876234967`129476`129476129467180946719278?
Is it a good idea to put a port crystal at the starting town?
If you don't have Dark Arisen then yes, if you do there will be a permanent one outside Cassardis
if you don't have Dark Arisen you only get 1 portcrystal per playthrough
nah you get like 3
Oh really? My bad, I haven't played the base game since release
>people hate exploring so much they MUST fast travel everywhere
You missed the point.
>people don't like wasting their entire day running across the map to give a merchant an herb for 100 coins
>heh, you guys didn't like this? you're pathetic.
you got everyone, anon
you are the true genius
don't like wasting their entire day running across the map to give a merchant an herb for 100 coins
name 5 quests where this happens
>name 5 quests where this happens
you dont like adventure
Do you think we'll finally break the chain for truth or is it gonna be a seperate new story like a final fantasy game?
the internet was better when it was just white people
I got to the big city and picked up a quest on the board and some dude joined me. Figured I should do his escort quest before moving on since I was told theres a bunch of timed missables.
This homosexual wants me to run him across the entire map across places Ive never even been to and theres a chimera I thought I could run past and that homosexual runs at him and keeps dieing what the frick do I do?
Physically pick him up and run past the Chimera. Escort quests normally say where they're going, next time double check that you've been so that you either know a path or can check if you have a port crystal there.
you nut up or think your way around it. the game isn't afraid to frick you and it shows.
>WAIT, WAIT DRAGONS DOGMA IS DIFFERENT
Yeah, it's fun, like Elden Ring and not like BotW. Yes I own a Switch.
This post uses the options field.
im playing the switch version and you cant stop me
classic soul vs. soulless situation
zoomies can't understand due to their genetically inferior brains.
Pathetic.
Another filtered mongrel trying to stir up shit.
Dragon's Dogma bros have weathered every imaginable bait, hopium and suffering waiting for this moment.
We won.
Your words mean nothing.
Ganker is entirely one person.
whom are you quoting
>yet another discord troony thread
holy shit you guys are so frickin pathetic lmao, you should really shove a shotgun through the back of your head ASAP, your family will be better off for it
What I remember from playing DD :
>wanted to make sexy twin pawns, but nope you can only create ONE PAWN ever
>the other pawn has to be some jabroni that is basically randomized and you chance upon from a pool of whatever the frick people make and you get to choose from
>this other pawn will almost instantly be outleveled so you have to keep cycling them ,which is annoying
>landscape is boring
>you steamroll over everything except the designated "come back later or dance around them for 20+ minutes chipping away their health" mobs
>main city is really bland and samey
>certain areas have bottomless pits and of course mobs around them launch your pawns into the abyss constantly
>fighting large enemies/bosses is very fun
Overall it's really fun but there's a lot of qol to implement and a lot of jank to remove.
Get a life pintopanto.
Who the frick is that
take your meds, produce any kind of real evidence. Your brain is melted
in case you haven't noticed by now, capcom has tons of paid shills here who circle the wagons and shout down all criticism.
i'm surprised you haven't been called a "con man apologist" yet for pointing out the failings of a modern capcom game - because, as we all know, if you're not a blind wienersucker for everything capcom's made post-2010, you must love inafune.
Ganker always loved DD, discord troony
Yes, Itsuno-san has been paying me to shill this game on Ganker for the past 10 years. You got me. Also he specifically told me to call you a discord troony, and said I'd be rewarded in rift crystals for my effort.
Why people praise The Everfall? It's pretty shit, BBI in the other hand is great.
The everfall is a cool concept. Just clearly unfinished and undercooked. BBI is almost a different game. Like some really well made fan mod. Probably one of the best ARPG/horror blends out there. I'd put it up with Bloodborne in this regard and I think BB is one of if not the best game ever but it hardly feels like the base game.
Discord makes ERP threads. Threads like these are still made by outsiders, only they're edgy attention prostitutes who believe Ganker should just be the "troll site"
Have you considered the possibility that some people just don’t like the game and are making threads like this to push back against the non stop shilling ever since DD2 was announced
lol that's pathetic as frick, people like a game and are excited so you make threads shitting on it? holy shit what a loser
The thing is, Dragons Dogma fans have shit on tons of open world games before. When the 2nd game got announced, i cannot tell u how many posts were titled "The industry is healing from souls games" when it was announced. Anytime an open world gets discussed people shill it to death and shit on others. Anytime a specific open world gets shit on there will always be a dragons dogma recommendation as an alternative. Ive browsed enough Ganker to know which fanbases are the most cancerous and when dragons dogma is pointed out as bad, the fanbase cant handle it. Its just like gothic 2 gays however i havent played that game so i cant comment on its quality
You reap what your shitty game gets homosexual
i don't give a frick what you do loser my team already won
>video games are like sport teams
You deserve the rope. Ask me how I know you’re a /xivg/ regular
lmao i like ffxiv and i agree, ffxiv is the cancer of this board as well as dragons dogma and gothic 2 gays altho not as bad. See
barry is that you
Buy the pig
Actually based. DDDA fans are like undertale fans, or genshin fans, or Nier Automata fans. Fricking annoying. The only difference is DDDA fans are pseudointellectuals who think their choice of generic JRPG #17 makes them more refined than the rest of us
>t. malding Soulstroony
the case has been cracked
>and are making threads like this to push back against the non stop shilling ever since DD2 was announced
We've been having regular DD threads for a lot longer than you're been here, you fricking homosexual. It's not shilling, there's an established fanbase here. No one cares what some bandwaggoning homosexuals who played the game for a few hours think.
I fricking KNOW you homosexual because for the last 10 years you fricking hipster homosexuals have been shilling this fricking game, and I finally bought it, and it fricking sucks. Go hang out in /ddag/ on /vg/
OH WAIT
Sounds like you're just an idiot bandwaggon shitposter. Do you know what hipster and shill actually mean?
>Dragons Dogma fans have shit on tons of open world games before
The fact that you speak in memes and soijak formats says a lot. You just want attention.
>dumb discord troony having a meltdown
Got it on sale last week and played 16 hours or so.
Feels a bit like monster hunter. Definitely charming.
I like how the pawns make comments about their sorroundings. Not the ones about ressources, but little bits of lore or potential dangers of a place.
The combat is pretty cool and flashy, especially the spells.
Forming your party to efficiently deal with certain situations is a cool concept.
I love that I can climb and jump far. Running over the roofs in Gran Soren to find balconies with chests is cool.
Climbable bosses with weakspots are cool.
The world is comfy and doesn't feel THAT empty.
Chest loot should be less random and more rewarding in dungeons, I got all my gear from traders.
The quest log is a mess and I felt lost from time to time.
Took me hours until I randomly decided to rest at the first camp to trigger the Hydra scene.
Spamming the notice board with "passive" trash quests was a meh decision but at least one gets the reward immediately on completion.
Having that blonde trader roastie or that curiosity trader in the noble quearters send you to get special stuff would make more sense.
>You shall not cast
there's a discord user but i dont think transfolk post on Ganker
it's just a /misc/ boogeyman
>n-n-no I'm NOT A DISCORD troony!!1111!!!!
>continues replying and trying to "discredit" the fact HE is a discord troon
Like a moth to a flame
Ok, so you have a mentally ill grudge against this game you could just ignore. Because you can't stand not to be the center of attention.
ESLs get off my board
nice router reset, now reset your life by committing 12G to brain
they're onto us, sisters!!! regroup in the server for further instructions!!!!!
Why yes, I do believe any random screenshot someone shows me. I’m smart.
>Discord Trannies trying to suck the fun everything because they will never be real women.
More common than you think
English Second Language. Go get blown up by a Russian missile you illiterate homosexual. God i wish we’d rangeban anyone east of Germany. Americans aren’t this mentally ill
>Haven't posted since 2013
>come back and Ganker now hates Planescape and loves Dragon's Dogma
heh, times change
can I play as a support (like, buffing my pawns and shit)
its viable but kinda boring tbqh
>anyone that doesn't like a game i have devoted my entire identity to is a discord troony
you "people" are literally schizophrenic
Because the discord trannies want you to hate Elden Ring.
Think hard about who the real “discord trannies” are
>Other than Fallout New Vegas the original is
the only distinctly trans -claimed game I can
think of.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Struck a nerve? I'm surprised a total shitpost insult hurt you enough that you had to scour Twitter for "proof".
No you newbie /misc/ refugees are just ruining the site. Back in the day you’d call someone a troll, nowadays you homosexuals call people coordinated paid shills like a fricking schizophrenic
Why are you so fixated on /misc/?
because it wasn’t like this before the 2016 election
Oh look, someone over the age of 18, haven't seen that here in a while
People were still complaining about Redditors. It wasn't until the election that we had people on both sides organizing trying to influence this site though, you're right.
>People were still complaining about Redditors.
That's because what actually ruined this board was redditors flooding in around 2011-2012. The ones complaining about 2016 are those reddit immigrants.
kek i fricking knew it. only a troony would go this hard for a game this bad.
case in point, FONV sucks balls too
If Dragon's Dogma had a smaller map or let you use a horse to move quicker, it would have been better. Not perfect, but still better than elden meme or breath of the zelda whatever the frick. Still one of the best and will remain one of the best regardless of Ganker randos seething about it.
anyone know where to find the ligma balls? i've heard they're a great endgame weapon for Assassin
You have done nothing and convinced no one. As is ever the story of your life amirite?
>those graphics
OH NO NO NO NO
not that bad for a 10 year old game tbh.
in game, and not in retouched promotional stills from crapcom, the bad textures are extremely noticeable and dated. you cannot defend this.
I literally took that screenshot at the end of the chase scene this run bro.
that's not a promotional still, it's just one of the areas where the baked lighting and effects are actually finished
We are aware that the textures used in Dragon's Dogma are slightly modified Textures from Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. It's okay, Anon. We get it.
Why do you care so much about this game? Just stop shitposting and trolling and begging for attention.
You acknowledge that he's doing it for attention, and so you give him attention?
I knew Vee hated this game. Seems sekiro and shitborne at the only games that are "Vee approved."
Wonder what prompted all the sudden "Dragon's Dogma is bad" threads.
DD2 getting its sequel, people reminiscing about the first game and tortanic/shazamposters doing what they do.
>tortanic/shazamposters doing what they do
Explain this.
Long time ago there was a Star Wars MMO published by EA. It was terrible and EA did a lot of funny things attempting to get it to be successful because this was during the height of World of Warcraft and they wanted that MMO money.
It was called TORtanic for this, because like the so called "unsinkable ship" it pridefully sank kicking and screaming with extreme anti-consumer practices.
Ganker developed a taste for this and wanted to see highly anticipated games collapse for "being a blight on the industry" because they may contain so and so mechanics that Ganker hates or whatever. Everyone universally hates EA, but Ganker is always thirsty for coming up with fricking ANYTHING to blame any fricking company for being the reason they don't like videogames.
So a few Trannies in this modern era decided the From Software is the current cancer destroying the industry because the company is frequently praised despite being a flawed AA dev, with many companies attempting and often failing to follow the designs and standards that led to this appraisal.
isn't SWTOR still kicking today?
servers are pretty cheap today and there are always some morons, but its not like it came close to having the impact or success they expected, also it cost like half a billion to make.
>So a few Trannies in this modern era decided the From Software is the current cancer destroying the industry because the company is frequently praised despite being a flawed AA dev, with many companies attempting and often failing to follow the designs and standards that led to this appraisal.
That shit literally doesn't matter. The low IQ aspergers organizing in discords and posting the same passive aggressive trolling hundreds of times just fantasize about some random Anonymous that only exists in their head getting angry and frustrated at the troll post. Just like OP demonstrated.
These people are literally too dumb to enjoy a bit of schizophrenia.
It's in the spotlight, and shitposters will impulsively flock to it because they know it's the hot new thing they can farm (you)'s from.
FOTM bandwaggoning homosexuals saw the threads, saw that Ganker liked a game and got mad, played it for a few hours and then started shitposting about how bad it is because it doesn't have the same streamlined mechanics they're used to.
It's being memed hard by its homosexual fans because of the sequel. It's on sale on steam for five bucks. So a lot of new players are picking it up and seeing what a bad joke of a game it is, and are coming here to justifiably complain.
Frick off and die. I am 100% serious. I hope your mother gets raped by your brother while you are castrated with a rusted razor blade.
>STOP CRITICIZING MY GAME STOP IT STOP IT
It's not on nintendo. honestly have you homosexuals ever seen shazam trannies tortanic a nintendo game?
But it is, you dumb frick.
Dragons dogma 2 getting announced moron
I thought it was mediocre when I played it 4 years ago and I think it's mediocre now, I wouldn't care if you gays didn't flip flop between thinking it's a flawed but enjoyable game that different people will get different mileage out of (true) and the sudden wave of people pretending it's some GOAT masterpiece and exaggerating shit to make the game seem way cooler than it actually is. I'm still salty that I got baited into playing Warrior because muh guts and that one webm of one shotting a griffin with AoD only to find out it's a jump attack spam machine with one useful skill while also having half the skills as every other class in the game
It's an average game, deal with it, it has extreme flaws and also some noticeable highs.
It's a fricking mess which can be explained by the development hell it went through and the amount of cut content and changes of scale.
This has always been the case and I've noticed Ganker slowly raise this game as the second coming of christ over the years.
Truth is, Ganker just loves mediocre games with a strong gatekeeping potential, it allows them to pretend they're some sort of gaming connoisseurs unlike the plebeians playing generic trash.
Overrating mediocre games has always been Ganker only way to develop some sort of self esteem and confidence, how else would you raise above normies other than by claiming you're an expert at consuming entertainment products overlooked by them. Outer Wilds was praised here during it's obscure alpha 10 years ago, but now that it's popular it's redditcore, this example alone tells you enough about Ganker moronic inferiority complex.
based, well said. Dragons Dogma was just that game that Ganker can perfectly mold as that game they can pretend to love. There was so many actual great Gankercore games that were amazing that Ganker dropped because they got a following on stuff like tik tok and reddit
Dragons dogma however will never get this following unless 2 is good because its a mediocre and forgettable game. If DD did get insanely popular Ganker would call it reddit trash and drop it in an instant.
Ive been on the internet for a decade without barely anyone caring for this game apart from this board
I will praise Dragon's Dogma and Outer Wilds and get more people to play it no matter how reddit that makes me. They're good games, DD isn't perfect it DOES have flaws but it's still fun.
Unreal how melted the brains of /misc/ schizos are
I would pay actual money to see your throat cut and watch you choke to death on your own bloody mucus.
At least I don’t live in a poor Eastern European bloc country like you do
>At least I don’t live in a poor Eastern European bloc country like you do
See how easy it is to pin you homosexuals? I could’ve guessed anywhere in the world, and yet I knew you were some sad polish or Ukrainian sack of shit. Pathetic. Try not to get blown up or gassed tomorrow while you beg the US to save you
>everyone
Are you talking to the voices in your head again, mohammed?
I'm really glad that after years of having said everything there is to be said about this game, we have a new wave of shitposting and complaining to counteract the excitement of finally getting that second game.
DD's theme of cycles transcends the game itself.
So a non shitpost question.
Do you want pawns to be smarter or do you want them to keep their adorable at times stupidity.
There is just something about a pawn running and hitting an explosive barrel and getting blown off a cliff for no reason.
Pawns work best at Pioneer and Guardian inclinations, preferably both on at once.
I’m asking in terms of hopes for the sequel. Sorry should have been more clear.
Competent when it matters, slack when it doesn't. If I'm a sorc trying to kill a metal golem it shouldn't take so fricking long for my strider pawn to realize they can shoot the medallions and I can't. On the other hand, if it's a regular enemy I'm fine with them not doing as well because that lets me feel like I'm making a bigger impact on the fight at hand.
So really, selectively-smart.
smarter. I'd love a way to prevent sorc pawns cancelling their casts with spastic jumping and prevent scripted climbing
I want the incline to getting smarter to be better. They can be dumb for half the game then be hyper competent killers.
Just as stupid but with a couple small options for direct commands for certain situations. For example, if I open a chest and start getting vored, there should be an option for "Stop what you're fricking doing and hit it now."
>legitimate criticism
Where? DDgays are some of the people most critical of the game. The "criticisms" in this thread are some mentally ill homosexual who played the game for a few hours and started shitposting about mechanics he doesn't understand because he's mad Ganker likes a good game.
>DD2 announced
>DD threads swarmed with shitposters what do nothing but ruin the once comfy threads
This is clearly not a DD thread, it’s a DD hate thread. Can you read
Someone please hire my pawn
Name: "Sage"
Level 56
Fighter
Steam
Surprise surprise, add actually fun combat to a genre with dogshit gameplay and you get an actually enjoyable product. Crazy stuff.
>Pawns constantly disengaging daimon and running over to stand next to me while I'm casting despite all being scather and mashing Go!
I'm getting pretty tilted.
Try Scather/Pioneer.
I have no clue what to think of pawns with BBI. I have consistently felt like they just get left behind with BBI.
Well, its especially frustrating because randomizing every room means unless you're okay with just cheesing you can't tool yourself out with enough kit to deal with every enemy.
The tight spaces and larger sizes of the enemies tends to frick with the pawn AI. Ranged classes (casters in particular) stand way to close to the enemy and constant get yeeted around the room. And the small rooms mean that they frequently run into other rooms and pull new enemies while trying to avoid dangers in the current fight (really bad when fighting Wraiths). BBI certainly did a few things better than the base game, but I really hope the core gameplay of DD2 isn't a BBI dungeon crawl cause it fricks with so many aspects of the game. Better if they take the positives of BBI and role it into the main world of the sequel.
Unless you're playing your own Sorcerer pawn, do not give them upgraded spells for the big Sorc spells like Bolide or Fulmination. They take too long to cast and the pawn will never get them off. Make sure they have Challenger/Utilitarian as an inclination. Don't be afraid to leave slots un-unsed as few choices will help the pawn make the correct choice.
>Better if they take the positives of BBI and role it into the main world of the sequel.
I completely agree. The dungeon crawl itself isn't too bad for me, but a lot of my issue is it just doesn't feel as good as the leadup to it. I hope the core curve is just really good in 2.
I mean you have to remember that even BBI was made on peanuts with them just tying a bunch of stuff together that was “finished enough”
I’m sure that BBI, whilst enjoyable, was nowhere near where they wanted it to be
Regardless of how I feel about it at least I wouldn't say it's bad aside from some goofiness. Daimon himself would redeem it even if it was.
I enjoyed the dungeon crawl of BBI a lot more than the main game in terms of design. Its just the difficult of BBI being much higher than the base game means that the crappy brokenness that shows up every now and then becomes actually frustrating.
How do I make my sorcerer pawn useful?
gonna farm up for an alt, room for one more. any on switch?
>Why does this game get a pass again?
because its a fricking ps3/360 game maybe whre things like copypaste content was to be expected? why are you such a dumbfrick OP how about you answer that question before we move forward.
how much harder is bbi 2? Do I get better rewards at least?
Certain chests now give a higher tier for bitterblack cursed items or a better rift crystals item. Tier 3 is now possible instead of being ultra rare to get and drops a lot more commonly near the end of it. It can and will frick you in places but the doors are open if you want to sprint though, and you should at least fight Daimon one more time.
I want to beat daimon again for the lv3 weapon, but I loathe having to get all the keys again and shit
Again the doors are opened, even the ones from killing bosses. You only really need to hit void key sidepaths if you want to see what they have as only the shortcuts back to the main isle area are re-locked.
can I farm daimon after?
Its really really hard
Holy fricking kill me now
BBI to BBI 2 is like main game to BBI. The room before Daimon specifically is supreme bullshit.
its common knowladge that anything that isn't combat related is absymal
Pedos, autists and weebs are all dead in the brain.
Is this too weak for MK vs daimon v2.0? How do I get more stronk?
See the pointers anons posted in this thread
I mean I've got full dragonforged BBI gear. I feel like I should be doing more than a single pixel of damage when I hit him with the holy great cannon. If I inject demon peripats into my veins I do more damage but not enough. I literally have to hold onto them because its my only way to get enough damage to interrupt his second phase succ. Though I'm not sure why I'm bothering considering my pawns are literally useless in this fight with how they either ignore him completely due to inclinations or spend the whole fight hanging from legs.
If you don't have BBI3 gear, great canon honestly doesn't do that much damage to Daimon 2.0 unless you're swimming in periapts. Enchant your weapon (Holy and Abyssal Anguish), climb up to his face and started beating him. Use canon when he's in his vulnerable state (just spawn one and starting swinging).
Well alright. Where are my sources of magic and strength though, aside from weapons? Am I meant to be trying to find +str/+mag rings? Is there a list of "essential" +str/+mag augments?
Clout (20% Strength) and Acuity (20% Magick) from Warrior and Sorcerer rank 9 are big boosts. There's also 10% version of those augments from Fighter and Mage respectively, although they're less useful compared to other augments in my opinion. There's also Bloodlust from Assassin which is like 20% boost to both but only at night. Periapts work on top of these so you'll notice an even bigger boost while chugging them.
>They are so empty and full of boring quests
you cant even give your strawman a somehow coherent argument?
I was trying to do the quest a fortress besieged and was raped by a fricking dragon.
Homies, somebody hire my pawn, I need the rift crystals.
>Valentine
>Level 79.
>Sorcerer.
>Dressed like a total fricking bawd but has some Wyrmfire gear.
Thanks in advance, I need better gear for her so until then she looks like a hoe but shes good. Until I get more points to upgrade my spells at least.
>start a game
>level
>start doing 'from a different sky' quests
>1000-3000rc each
>get all the tokens
>store them all in your bank
>beat the game
>start a new cycle
>game can be beaten in like 3h now
>as soon as you get to gran soren, take all the tokens out of the bank because they save between runs
>take and instantly cash all the 'from a different sky' quests that have now reset
>160-250,000rc every time you start a new cycle
It's a bit time consuming to get all the badges the first time, but well worth it rather than begging on Ganker for a few thousand RC.
Make sure they've got 100% sleep resist and I'll hire them.
Ill check again but she seems like she has some pretty high resists, I need more time to farm equipment.
I didn't purposefully make her a prostitute, I just need better shit.
To be honest, I am going through the game slow and methodically, I am so high level cause I am playing on hard mode from the start and just enjoying the game again, soaking up everything.
BY THE WAY ANONS!
Are pawns cross play accessible? Like can I hire a pawn on the PS5 that was made on the PC?
Can't find her mate. You on PS5 or PC? And no I don't think crossplay is available.
PS5.
Do I need to give her moniker name instead of what I gave?
Nah I'm on PC so I won't be able to hire them.
The open world part of DD is shit and yet they still give you more interesting things to play with in it than a multigazillion dollar Elden Shit game ever managed to do
Fascinating
Any arisen willing to hire my pawn please, it'd be much appreciated, thank you.
It's ok OP.
You just have really bad taste.
There are worst things in life.
In other words, it's pedo brain cancer
If the entire point of sorcerers is that they cast slow for big damage then why do frostwyrms instantly cast several spells in two seconds?
Because they are wyrms. Are you a wyrm? no, that's it. Hope i helped you.
>Fight Golem
>Last medallion it's the one on it's feet
>First medallion the pawns break is the one that stuns the golem
>They stun it before toppling so the bottom medallion is inaccessible
>When it wakes up it's in rage mode.
>Escort some homie to bloodwater beach from Gran Soren
>Griffon comes out of nowhere and kills him after we are past the bandit camp
>Your pawn has returned from the brothel
>500k RC profit from sex work
>Unable to contact servers try again later :^)
>PS. We're keeping your RC
MotherFRICKER
The wiki says Mystic Khomie should a wear medium armor, but I'm looking at the Chimeric Half Plate and it's clearly meat for the MK yet it weighs A LOT. The frick should I wear?
I don't care about drama give me a level 40 pawn above to help me with my adventures I'm gonna replace my ranger pawn and in need of range class
discordgays really getting desperate
Wait, did they switch their narrative from trying to do Dragon Dogma versus Elden Ring, to DD vs Skyrim?
What's next, DD vs Final Fantasy?
discordgays are braindead so they'll try anything, even reply to themselves and say DD is reddit as bait
I can't imagine being filtered from a cozy experience so much, that you result trying to say Skryim is objectively better.
Maybe on the modding side, but sheesh. Least DD could run on a PS3
Not any of the seething anons, but I don't think DD vs Skyrim is that off the wall considering they released at roughly similar times (2011 for Skyrim, 2012 for Dragon's Dogma) and IIRC DD did pull some comparisons back on its release.
Not that it's that great a comparison anyway since they are pretty different besides a surface level "dragons and mountains and fantasy stuff". DD's world appears to be mainly monospecies as opposed to Nirn (humans only, no elves/dwarves/etc). DD doesn't really advertise itself as a 'YOU CAN DO ANYTHING' kind of game.
>DD doesn't really advertise itself as a 'YOU CAN DO ANYTHING' kind of game.
And yet, ironically, it has a lot of things you can do to change outcomes of quests and characters and none of it is telegraphed to the player so it feels more immersive when you accidentally do something and see a wholly different results. Sure, it's not the same as being able to put a bucket on an NPCs head, but it does make the world feel reactive and real. TES worlds are always static and boring and everyone feels like an animatronic in an amusement park.
That's true, there's some surprising flexibility. I will admit though that the inner completist in me freaks out on some of those, since stuff like higher-tier weapons only being available if you do the babysitting quest correctly or the possibility of missing out on quests by going the wrong direction does stress me a bit even on my 3rd or 4th playthrough.
Is DD as replayable as Dark Souls? I don't replay games often but it was really nice in DS with the amount of build variety available.
Anon, DD's even more replayable than Dark Souls, do to it's checks for you to be missed and locked out a quest, if you progress main story, ise even more autistic than DS.
Expect a good 1-3 playthroughs, at least. If you wanna see every "main" quest, that is missable.
One of the worst games I've ever played. Never listen to Ganker.
I don't get it why this piece of shit gets a sequel while we are still waiting for last of us 3.
At least try with your trolling
How do you teech your pawn to loot? mine always never picks anything up, yet this mage I got is worse than a roma gipsy and picks everything, even before attacking or healing
Acquisitor inclination. You may not want it because they prioritize looting if it's higher up.
I see, ty, currently a strider so I guess i'll just let a hired pawn be my lootmule
That's what I do, I'm playing a MK dwarf in heavy armor so my carry capacity is non-existent, I just unload on my pawn who happens to be a max height amazon mommy sorcerer
Monkey see monkey do - if your pawn sees you picking up loot all the time (prioritising it over fighting even) they'll eventually learn to do the same.
>Can actually do a princess carry while rescuing her
Shit, this is pretty kino. I like how they supplied that disguise armor any class can use so anyone can do the knight in shining armor thing regardless of vocation.
Dragon's Dogma has good combat and good rpg mechanics surrounding the combat. These aspects are the whole unique selling point of the game
Most open world games have dogshit combat, and when your only selling point is your open world and the game is only okay even at that that's where people will take offense