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Yeah, i'm already Quasar-pilled
>HEY DICKHEAD!
>Yes?
>Dropping this during the Autocannon supremacy
Have shitters stopped crying about people bringing autocannons to diff 8 and 9 missions yet?
I hope they leave the Quasar untouched and improve the other weapons instead holy frick
I'm worried they're gonna nerf it given their usual pattern of balance changes
Quasar: Good whem you don't feel like bringing EAT to challenge yourself, or even when you want to bring EAT really just to have a shot constantly at the ready.
HMG: Seems kinda pointless against both bugs and to an extent against bots despise a few advantages in comparison to the regular mg. Not even a backpack machine gun which is mostly what i assume most people want. Feels redudant and useless.
>the railgun does too much with few minimal downsides, that's why we nerfed it
>here is an explosive version with infinite ammo
these fricking morons. If it took a backpack slot there'd be something, but now we're back to shield+cannon for bots.
ten seconds between shots, and like a five second mandatory charge up time that you can't delay at all.
>it's a no backpack, infinite ammo recoilless rifle that reloads itself, b-but you need to charge it behind cover first
Honestly I've been fricking around with it in Helldive, that charge up time can and will frick you over in moments where you really need to take a hulk out. Ditto with precise aiming on anything moving because the distortion from the barrel fricks up your sights.
The quasar is still crazy good and they should have probably given it some type of ammo consumption. Maybe like 4 shots before the heat sink wears out and needs to be replaced or something.
Ice planets don't actually help it fire more often because you literally cannot fire it for 10 or so seconds regardless of it's heat value. Even when your heat is at 0 the game won't let you fire it again.
Aww, what? I can't edge the quasar cannon? They sucks.
So is the new machinegun effective vs heavy armor? seen conflicting reports
It appears to pierce walker and devastator armor, but it won't go through hulk heavy armor or devstator shields. It can damage turret vents easily.
shreds devastators, can kill hulks by shooting in the eye. in many ways it's like an autocannon except it doesnt require a support ammo slot and it has no splash damage
splash is pretty weak anyway and free backpack slot for a drone/supplies seems good
>shooting in the eye
how many bullets? Thing kicks like a motherfricker.
I like the AC but with the quasar being what it is vs the RR It feels like they are too proud to admit
>Yeah the way we do support reloading sucks
But also too proud to fix it. So they're just making weapons to replace it.
Requires a kabuki dance of calling down a RR and giving your friend the backpack and you take their backpack. And now you can't reload if they aren't right next to you. Just fix it so anyone can help a backpack-wearing-RR/AC gunner and the balance is done, because a qasar will have to face off against someone who can spam rokkits.
Dunc tie-in
>NOOOOOO MY HECKIN ROBOT BUG GAME CAN'T BE GETTING EASIER, I NEED TO GATEKEEP AND SHOW HOW ELITE I AM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This but unironically, shitters don't deserve to have fun the same way I am.
I hope the Heavy mg is works against the bots.
as much as i love the AC, lately I've been having sooo much fun rocking the mg with the bugs
I just fricked a Hulk by shooting its face with the HMG
haven't played in a while, did they ever buff the explosive liberator?
They renamed it to concussive liberator
The new machine gun SUCKS
Who wants to give up crowd control for being able to shoot through walker legs
>Who wants to give up crowd control for being able to shoot through walker legs
Cat poster showing once again that they have no idea what they're talking about kek.
>LE SMUG CAT
opinion discarded
warthog when?
i wanna be the driver
Its nice actually being able to see on a planet
i understand they can't or don't want to do proper cityscapes.
i wish we could get some city ruins at least.
There are tall mountainous regions, impassable plateaus in the game.
they could easily substitute hills with ruined buildings and skyscrapers, bridges, etc.
give us the genuine T2 future war vibes.
they will add urban areas with the zombie citizen update this summer
First game had urban maps, so it's probably coming.
I tried it with a 2080 super months ago. Run like shit. Did performance improve somewhat?
Did you try running it in ultra supersampling or something? The game has potato modes that could on 1060s.
Shit, im running it all low on a RX 570
...it does crash here and there tho
Native medium got like 60 fps but want 80+. I realize a 2080s is old at this point but do I really have to play on low?
Let go of your pride and run it below native.
Nerf:
>Quasar; slower charge time, slight reduced damage
>Arc Thrower; absorb 50% damage when connecting armor
>EATs; +20 second Cooldown
>Autocannon; jk, shit's cash
Buff:
>AMR; medium Armor pen + new optic
>Both Machine guns; +1 mag, +1 mag Pickup per ammo box, full refresh on Supply box
>Spear; damage + FIX THE LOCK-ON
>Mines; more damage
>Deployable Gun Turret; faster turn rate
>Orbital Gas; make it do ANYTHING
>Deployable Bubble Shield; 2x health
>Quasar; slower charge time, slight reduced damage
Kill your fricking self Black person, the gun not even out for 3 fricking hours and trannies are already asking for a nerf, nerf'ing a PvE game is fricking moronic
>Recoiless Rifle, but no reload needed, no ammo needed, can simply cool down when using your other weapon, and can 1 shot kill most things in the game
It's so obvious how busted the thing is right out of the gate, moron. And that's before even seeing
.
frick off homosexual, leave my new favorite gun alone, why are you trannies so anti-fun? First fun weapon after a long while and you troons already want it gone
>Can only have fun with blatantly broken weapons
Lemme guess, former RailBlack person?
Nope, I exclusively use EAT and RR, nice try though troon.
>blatantly broken weapon
The Quasar still requires skill and timing to use, by your logic the Autocannon should be nerf'ed too since it too can blow up bug holes and fab vents from afar. Again, have a nice day YNBAW
>nerf'ing a PvE game is fricking moronic
ultimate moron opinion
gas is alright if you throw it on a breech, it kills weaker enemies and slows them.
I have a better idea, don't touch anything and just make more overpowered shit and increase spawn rates
>nerfs
frick right off
buffs
>Spear; damage
damage is fine, it one shots most things while RR/EAT require 2, its just the lock on that needs fixing
>Orbital Gas; make it do ANYTHING
it needs one or two of folowing things
>larger area
>longer duration
>slowness to enemies
>Muh meta
First batch of nerfs literally made the game 10x better. You're gay YouTube video where you aquire your idiotic "game design philisophies" from are objectively wrong.
where did i say meta you dumb Black person
Yes PLEASE nerf more weapons into the ground so the game can die quicker, it sure worked wonders when it happened to the Railgun!
shut the frick up railcuck, all you got to do is swap to unsafe mode and you get the old Railgun back
Why do you want the game to die?
That utterly moronic homosexual doesn't understand that if the devs nerf even one more thing then the remaining playerbase is going to drop this game for good. The devs need to buff everything and cannot afford to piss off the small playerbase they have left. Between their last nerfs and new games that have come out, this game is teetering on the edge of being a ghost town as it is.
>babbys first bait
>moron think Devs give a frick about the player base falling off when they already got your $40+tip
I think you're confusing this with a F2P game, Anon. I'd rather the devs make an actual GOOD game than fosters 20k players than a trash one for babies that already bought into it and glitched 100,000,000 Super Credits.
Except you're advocating for them to not make a good game, and for them to ruin the game further. So do please shut the frick up, you total fricking moron.
>Niche game from an obscure developer with almost zero marketing
>2 months after release
>Still gets 300k on the weekends
>Ghost town
I still don't understand why HD2 makes certain people seethe so goddamn much.
anything that isnt nintendo gets shit on by nintendo fans here
The frick does Nintendo have to do with this game?
I believe it's a mixture of tortanic-dragon seekers and brain-dead leftists who actually bought the fascist bullshit.
They're angry weebs upset that DD2 is utter trash and a straight downgrade from the first
Unlike HD2 which had the biggest glow up ever
People don't give a damn about that dude. I was playing HD2, making my way through DD2 right now though.
90% of people shitting on any new game on Ganker are all the same deluded trolls and pisshomosexuals.
kek, this
though i think a lot of it is the 'frick sony' crowd, HD2 being a sony product is in despite of sony, not because of it.
>people b***h about how bad big titles are nowadays
>the absolute state of modern gaming haha amirite?
>literal small indie company makes insanely successful and popular game, sells well over 16x what was expected
>the absolute state of modern gaming amirite???? Amirite guys??????
It’s just telling that these “people” don’t actually enjoy video games as much as they enjoy YouTuber bullshit and manufactured drama from journalists.
>10 patches of fixing crashes from throwing snowballs or aiming downs sights in a shooter
>still crashes out the ass, known problems list still huge, only stopped growing because they refuse to acknowledge bugged shit since launch
it still fits with the modern gaming throwing out half finished, buggy early access abortions labeled as full games (but perfectly functional cash shops)
It succeeded because it's also just fun when it feels like working.
Ganker needs to be a place where everyone does nothing but doom say the end times of the gaming industry by hyper focusing only on AAA devs that do shitty things and follow trends while decrying any mentions of AA or Indies as shills, trannies, etc.
>nerfing EATs
actually fricking have a nice day
Let's just berf everything, and only buff the prices in the microtroony store
>buff AMR med pen
that would be a nerf, moron
>nerfing things
honestly just die
Who calls for nerfs in a PvE game?
sexo
Can the Sissycannon do THIS?
Yeah
Nope
wow the cooldown on that is recharging crazy fast
i know its helped by being an ice planet but still
For some reason the ice planet's effect on the heatsink isn't being factored in. The heatsink always hits 0 a few seconds before the quasar cannon lets you fire again, so on ice planets the CD should be even shorter.
Nah, it stays red and can't fire for like 5 seconds after cooled down
and 5 seconds is baby mode, you can't get EATs or new Recoil less that fast alone
technically yeah, it's possible to bounce the autocannon shoot into the vent like that, you just need to circle around to have it in front of you
Does anyone else feel like the HMG is really underwhelming? There are much better options for a support weapon right now.
>sickle
>redeemer
>stun grenades
>quasar
>jump pack
>eagle airstrike and orbital laser (orbital laser if only 3 strategems allowed)
Yup, it's gaming time.
No, they didn't remove the anticheat. Go away.
>try the dagger laser pistol for the first time to have an all-laser loadout
>come across some tiny shitty scout bugs
>sweep the laser across all 3 of them
>none of them died
>do it again
>none of them died
>have to focus every single one of them with a full second of dead on laser to kill them
How did this get past internal testing?
You don't even need to change the stats to make it a viable weapon for people to pick it, just allow players to use the 3 magazines it comes with interchangeably with primaries like the sickle and someone will actually bring it.
It's a laser pointer
Yea i used the dagger once then swapped it out, it should probably take twice as long for it to overheat as it does now to be worth using over the automatic
Shred Shrieker wings fairly well.
Honestly i prefer the Dagger and Senator to the Redeemer against bots. Against bugs you might as well cave in and take the only good option. But overall the dagger is in a similar situation than the scythe if not worse because it doesn't seem nearly as accurate on top. It's paying too much of a price for no reason if the sickle is considered balanced. The quasar cannon is just adding more fuel to the fire.
Can you destroy bug holes with the Quasar Cannon?
Yes. You still have to aim inside the entrance though.
This game is already dead, Dragons Dogma 2 is the new FOTM.
Try harder Palsissy, no one's falling for it.
This. Nobody playing this broken garbage anymore.
>stop having fu-ACKKK
>Everyone who I disagree with is a trann- ACK!
now lets see your favorite game
trannies actually seething due to good game being popular. 300k+ on weekends btw
I'm going to rebuttel you soon as I drink some water
>*siiiip*
>*Water goes down wrong pipe*
ACK!
Helldivers 2 is actually FOT(2)M.
fotm are multiplayer only
i play both
>Flavor of the season
WHERE'S MY SPRINGFIELD SNIPER RIFLE
next warbond
it sucks
>people already defending quasar when you question why railgun on safety needed to be nerfed when this was being released
Clowns. All of them.
Because in the same time you charge the Quasar, shoot and charge it again you can shoot 5 or 6 railgun rounds? if you think both are in any shape or form the same you're not moronic, you're completely brain dead
>why are higher leveled stratagems better than lower level stratagems
moron. There's a way better EAT coming eventually.
wow, its almost like the game has changed since the rail gun nerf, you know, when there wasnt many viable options against heavy armor besides the railgun before they buffed rockets?
>been playing for weeks
>still only now getting to the slugger in the battle pass
slow ass progression
Do you play 30 minutes a day or what
yeah, 2-3 matches on diff 4
bro get on at least Diff 5 so you can do 3 mission ops, it will increase your medal gains tremendously
The games only been out for "weeks" moron. Newsflash idiot, yiu need to play higher difficulties to progress faster, haz5 homosexual.
It's been out for 2 months, moron.
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What drives a person to be like that?
You should be able to use the jump pack retro thrusters at all times. Feels fricking lame when you jump on a cliff and have to wait like a lemon to jump back down.
jump pack should negate fall damage entirely period
>when i see a Black person b***hing about the rail gun
What's the Gankererdict on the new weapons? Are they kino?
Quasar is great
HMG is best used for Bots but it's pretty decent, just set it to low RoF
Quasar is OP
HMG is ok
HMG and Quasar need to be nerfed.
Less ammo for HMG and less damage for Quasar. As it is both are as OP or more OP than the Railgun since both don't require team reloading but are more effective than the team reload weapons.
kys yourself right now
Only after you after the inevitable nerfs you power troony Black person. It's coming and you being a moron won't change things lmao.
Objectively these new toys are OP and need adjusting.
>IT'S TOO FUN NEEEERRRRRRFFFFFF
why do people like you play a pve game
>Yeah well we both know who the developers agree with
the Black folk in their country raping their women?
>Quasar is OP
I can see why someone would think that.
>HMG is OP
You're an actual moron if you think the HMG is OP. Even against bots it's a sidegrade to the MG on whether you prioritize killing hulks and striders more than killing chaff and everything else.
That's because Team Reloading sucks dick, it has nothing to do with the Quasar or the HMG and everything to do with the mechanic simply being shit.
A lot of the mechanics in the game are simply ass and instead of fixing them, they just drag everything else down to their broken ass level.
by the way, found your picture.
Quasar is OP and desperately needs a nerf, it is literally the Recoilless Rifle but infinite ammo, no backpack slot, and faster reload while you can still move.
The heavy machine gun is actually balanced solely because you have no hipfire reticle and have to rely on the funky ass first person ADS to control recoil instead.
Kek here we go again with the whining bout the railgun again, only it's a cannon now
Yeah well we both know who the developers agree with, so enjoy your overpowered crutch while you can.
No it doesn't. The devs need to buff everything else to its level. Fricking moron troony.
You ever heard of power creep my dude?
>the hecking quasar is op
Dumb friendless Black folk don't know about the assisted recoilless rifle
Does the quasar one shot chargers if you hit their face?
Yeah
Yes
Damn I imagine if the Swedes gone full moron and nerf the quasar, this game would legit become a FOTM
flavor of two months?
Aren't we close to 3 months now?
Why are people surprised that there is power creep at the higher level unlockable content?
It's like playing XCOM and being mad that starter ballistic rifles aren't balanced with the endgame plasma rifles.
The low rank lower difficulties should be all in mostly conventional armor, and after more content releases and time, the higher ranked people on high difficulties should be wearing exoskeleton power armor with guns that shoot pure liberty. This isn't a surprising thing.
Where does the power creep ends? Too much of it and you ruin the game. Seen it many times before.
Considering that the first game had 15 difficulties they'll probably just add more. Frankly the currently Helldiver difficulty bugs feels like difficulty 7 bugs used to so I hope they do.
The Stun Grenade simply counters bugs too hard.
It's not even that. The charger nerf just made them too easy. Hopefully we get more difficulties and bug variants so they're actually difficult again.
>Hopefully we get more difficulties and bug variants so they're actually difficult again
Then morons would want things to be nerfed even harder
>WAAAAHHH WHY CAN'T I STEAMROLL THROUGH A DIFF 13 MISSION, NERF THE HIVE LORDS!!! NERF THE ROBOT DOG BOSS!!!!
RR/EAT one-shot the charger equivalent in HD1, they should do the same here. Taking two rockers per charger makes them godawful as a supposed "Anti-Tank" option.
Sure, I don't entirely disagree. But they fricked the spawn rate too so even on Helldive you're never really in trouble when a charger shows up.
Ah yeah, I wouldn't mind more chargers again on Helldive now that they're more manageable.
>the currently Helldiver difficulty bugs feels like difficulty 7 bugs used to
because reddit cried that helldive was too hard, so they balanced the super hard end difficulty to stroke homosexual egos instead
game will die because they let reddit be the world's largest and shittiest focus group instead of actually having employees balance the game
R*dditors are huge shitters and mega crybabies. Can't stand them.
What's worse is that the gays over in /copeg/ and /hdg/ were hopping right on reddit's wiener and shitting on the devs too. Game is suffering from a huge skill issue and ego problem.
>NOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT I NEED TO PLAY ON THE HARDEST DIFFICULTY
>WHAT? NO!!! I WON'T GET BETTER AT THE GAME NERF IT SO I CAN PLAY IT
It's just fricking annoying.
When they decide to stop releasing new stratagems.
>higher level
Thank you for confirming that you do not play this game and have no idea how this works. The new weapons are stratagems. That means a brand new player can unlock them in under an hour of gameplay.
>That means a brand new player can unlock them in under an hour of gameplay.
What's the level req. and cost for them? Haven't been able to play yet, still at work
6k-7k apiece iirc.
You don't even need them in low difficulties. The low level gear is good enough for a long while.
>That means a brand new player can unlock them in under an hour of gameplay.
How did you pass level 25 in under an hour of gameplay? That's impressive. You should record a guide of how you set this world record. Alternatively, you could go stick your neck in a wood chipper you braindead c**t.
>tfw heavy armor with extra padding and shield pack on bot missions
On the other hand I've seen a rando with the democracy protects armor tank 7 missiles in a row and get back up, shit was hilarious
Damn I imagine if the Swedes gone full moron and nerf the railgun and shield backpack, this game would legit become a FOTM
>being suprised at the quasar being the strongest shit
Did most people larped about using the EAT or what?
so uhhh... yeah why is this planet black?
Too many niggers
You got a problem with it being black yboi???
>Devs can't even fix the intro time to every mission being ~15 seconds because of pod cutscenes
there are so many players that just can't hack fighting bots, will just puss out when the shit hits the fan.
They see the lasers and get scared
people may scream but I think the ballistic shield would help a lot of players against bots
I kinda like being scared and "panicky". Makes the fight more exciting and fun when we do triumph.
Or when it fades into "frick it I'm relishing in this chaos and taking down as many bots as I can"
I don't play bot often, but I've had my greatest moments with them. Being the lone survivor trying to do the soil tests and not die. Making it to extract against all odds on bot extermination. DIVE DIVE DIVE
So like we're all cool with easy modes for Soulslike games right?
It's a PVE game after all, why shouldnt the player be able to nerf the game in order to have fun!
If you need meta/objectively buster weapons in order to have fun, you're just a fricking shitter.
Some people like their games to be challenging, and having to ignore a bunch of unbalanced weapons in order to get that challenge is frustrating.
Every souls game has hyper OP magic stuff that trivializes the game. So yes, we ARE cool with souls having easy mode crutches, revert the railgun nerf and don't touch the quasar.
Tbh magic was only hyper OP because you don't have to dodge as often, shitters still needed to learn sets of skills in order to utilize them
Not to mention how much wiki and metagaming knowledge you needed to have the right builds and spells (which are not given to the player on a silver platter)
The Railgun was just plopped into the players hands with very little brainpower required
I only ever used it after the nerf and I still got ridiculous utility with it
So many shitters were promised a perfect gun by youtube meta merchants and its funny to see them get angry that a live service wants a healthy degree of challenge
Souls games are easy as frick BECAUSE they don't nerf anything.
Dilate, emphasis on 'die'
>he doesnt know about the lightning nerf
shut up and stop pretending you ever got gud casul
>trannies out of nowhere
lmao you really do suck at the game, and i've struck a nerve
>shut up and stop pretending you ever got gud casul
Shut the frick up you exploiting Black person, you're the reason they nerfed it in the first place. Sorry I struck a nerve calling you a troony. Try not to have a nice day over it, but I don't think anyone would miss you if you did.
Are you okay my guy?
It sounds like you're having a bit of a tantrum after you said some objectively incorrect shit.
Dark Souls nerfed lightning, and you seem to be a bit bitter about that... not I though, I used a fire enchanted Zweihander (I was the *other* type of DS metagay- a strengthgay)
Projecting hard + your mad + Arrowhead isn't rolling back the nerf 🙂
>getting this angry
u mad and also incredibly dumb about a game you never played before. sit down and shut up, autistic, sperging troon.
I'm not the one typing in all caps calling people Black person you silly goose
where's the paragraph and a half of seethe about how not-mad you are?
>i'm a soulsgay btw could you guess I'm transgender?
who asked?
NG is easy mode
>It's a PVE game after all, why shouldnt the player be able to nerf the game in order to have fun!
Because there's 9 fricking difficulties. Go play the one that suits you instead of nerfing the ones that are too hard for you.
NTA
I agree with the catch that the purple samples I need for final ship upgrades are in the harder stuff.
Plus I do want to unlock 'em all just for sake of it.
You don't need them. Unironically, if you can't complete a level 7 mission you do not need the upgrades they unlock. Just accept that you'll need to improve at the game until you can beat the missions that contain super samples.
I mean yeah duh. I'm just saying is all.
I was making an argument *for* nerfing the RG to make the game more challenging.
The implication I was intending was that RG nerf complainers are more mad about their crutch being taken away rather than a real desire to improve the game.
The Quasar is just a lazy EAT/RR. I'll probably use it occasionally when playing with randoms but as soon as they fix the crashes I'll go back to just dropping EATs everywhere and forget about it. No clue about the new MG, used it in one game and hated it
Yup, the HMG is garbage.
loved the game but the community is the whiniest homosexual armchair devs ever that just b***h b***h b***h and demand everything change to their personal preferences
this thread is further evidence of that
the game was always fine you stupid meta Black folk just ruin everything you touch
The devs are just as shit
They kept denying that there is anything wrong with armored enemies and there's nothing wrong with harder difficulties
Until they were called out for never actually playing on those difficulties and as soon as they did, they immediately started nerfing armor mobs
Remember that they didn't know you could blow the armor off the charger's legs.
>we didn't expect people to find the leg meta
Black folk what the frick you were expecting, to people shoot the ass thats not the weakspot?
what the frick they wanted chargers to be, a way to burn every single Anti armor stratagem and then drop bile titans with the same idea?
the exposed legs were probably supposed to have the same explosives only "weakspot" like the butt or flesh where armor is blown off but got forgotten with normal/low values instead.
kek, I could see it be an oversight by the devs to let the legs be flesh underneath the armor
shill me on this game I need a good escapism game
Do you like killing bugs and robots? Do you like sending nukes to groups of bugs and robots?
Total bots and bugs annihilation.
Collateral included.
good, honest, genuine fun and shenanigans
do you like whining endlessly about shit being too OP? look no further
Would (you) like to protect SUPER EARTH?
Would (you) like to kill a ludicrous amount of sentient aliens and robots?
Would (you) like to try dispensing 30+ flavors of democracy in the form of orbital bombardments, sentries, fly-by carpet bombing, and really BIG GUNS?
Answering no gets you reported to your Democracy Officer and will result in a swift execution.
0 real life politics, just bot and bug annihilation. No gays with rainbow cloaks etc
Pure shootin tootin fun, if killing shit is not enough for you and need story/whatever then pass on it
I mean there IS kinda a story going on, given the Major orders, and it's developing.
I don't care about fighting fairly against bugs and bots. It's not a PVP game. The new Quasar cannon is definitely a straight upgrade over EAT and recoilless rifle. HMG is a slight side grade towards more firepower, it's so cumbersome to use compared to MG and Stalwart. If you use the jetpack, you can reload in midair, so whatever.
I don't think they realize how little assisted reload matters in HD2 compared to HD1. You're no longer forced to stay together due to the camera, then there's the fact you need to have the assister equip the backpack which is stupid.
Yeah, the backpack ruins it. It would be useful and fun as frick to be able to just attach to a guy who's already wearing everything and help him kick twice as much ass for a moment without needing to cripple myself.
Can the Quasar takes out bot factories? Spear is still king when you get a lock.
yeah my homie, just shoot the vents
It can if you shoot at the vents like you would with the autocannon.
I still prefer the AC to Quasar against bots. It's fun though Can definitely see myswlelf switching it up evry once in a while
I think you’re just going to have one guy running Quasar+backpack forever in addition to you and the lads with autos. I wish more people liked reload assisting so the recoilless can really shine.
Team reloading sucks because it means you either lose your ammo supply and force someone else to take a backpack they can't use 90% of the time, or the other person has to stick to you like glue, limiting your agility. You can team reload if two people bring the same weapon, but save for the RR that's sacrificing your own ability to fire your gun to let the other person fire faster.
As other people have also said, it makes no sense to contort your hand to grab ammo from your backpack to feed into someone else's gun while it makes much more sense to take ammo from THEIR backpack and feed it into their gun. That's how team reload should work.
bugs are still not fun even with the new items, especially on higher levels
absolutely not fun being killed multiple times in a row by someone i can't even see
also why the frick are the modifiers in robot planets so ass? can they stop with those?
>bugs
meant bots
Skill issues. Learn to dive for cover and to not get surrounded.
homie i die before i get out of the hell pod
they are not hard, just not fricking fun
they need to fix them
Have you tried not landing in the middle of their forces?
Are you using EMS/Shield Generator?
I run both, and generally speaking it gives the team enough breathing room to get a handle on stuff (especially if someone throws down a laser too)
>hulk sneaks up to me
How the frick are they so sneaky when they're so big?
req slips
SC
>500 commons
>250 rares
>100 supers
I'm tired of sitting on this mountain of resources
Let us donate to the war effort and unlock temp stratagems ffs
you fricking glowie mindhacker
I was just thinking about 1-time use Boosters and paying for a random extra Strat
not impressed with the HMG initially
quasar is pretty good. the charge up time doesn't feel egregious and the cd seems very generous. EATs still have a lot of strengths, the main one being you always have them if you die, but it's nice to have something else to play with and use that strategem slot for another orbital or eagle.
New broken files dropped. Bravo arrowhead.
That's the config file.
It'll always have 1 file not validate and redownload.
Bots need to take more severe vision and accuracy penalties from sight-obscuring weather. It's moronic how far they can see through the fog on Troost when it's just a white wall to the player.
They're robots.
You are weak man flesh.
They have robot eyes.
You have weak squish balls filled with water.
>They
is the heavy mg supposed to not have a reticle???
Yup
Yes, its part of its balance, you cannot hip fire the thing and have to rely on the weird as frick first person reticle to roughly guess where the recoil is taking your shots.
OR DO IT DA ORKY WAY YA GIT! JUST 'OLD DA TRIGGA DOWN, AND LET THE DAKKA FLOW!
The whole charger change still makes 0 sense to me.
>Head is visibly far more heavily armored than the legs. Shoots a rocket at it, instantly dies
>Shoots a rocket at the leg, they can still walk just fine
>Shoots a rocket at their exposed, vulnerable shiny ASS. Not strong enough.
The best change to charger would have been to nerf the health pool of the ass and make some explosive weapons like the dominator or Lib C (previously EXPLOSIVE and should have followed through with this design) able to dispatch them fast using this new improved vulnerability. Honestly using EAT/RR and then shooting 1 second at their leg was good enough, and it would have still been a one shot by shooting their ass after waiting a bit.
The whole change basically did nothing but made good weapons even stronger. Even the flamethrower before the buff killed them fast so they effectively only made the kings stronger, and the other weapons just as useless or niche.
It was just to appease r*dditors babies after they shat their diapers with the railgun nerf.
You do understand that an anti tank weapon is specifically and precisely designed to pierce heavy thick armor, right? And that most things die when their brain is destroyed? Also, having to set up and get a shot off just before/right as the charger is charging is exhilerating and fricks you up if you frick it up. Way more rewarding than just sidestepping and shooting its butt.
They honestly should have kept the spawn amount the same, but gone through with the same nerfs
That way they're still difficult, but Anti-Tank weapons can actually do their jobs
they stealth put it back to how it was spawn-wise during the last major order (but with the increased chaff)
The Charger's ass is badly designed all around, its somehow the worst spot you can aim for despite it being the designated weak spot.
Because it's not a weak spot, it's just the only part of the charger that's considered to be a squishy bit you can deal damage to through conventional means. However squishy bits take 90% reduced damage from projectiles outside of explosives, which deal normal damage. So even if you shoot it with an explosive weapon it's still not a weak spot because you're just dealing normal damage.
>Get out of jail free card
Maybe if your grenade could fricking kill something you wouldn't find yourself "in jail"
>grenade launcher
>shotgun
>pistol
The gentleman's loadout. How are turrets in high difficulties? Worth or just grab airstrikes instead?
Heavies just stomp turrets. Not worth it.
New HMG fricking sucks.
Its basically a shittier LMG.
Personally i think they fricked something up, i think it was meant to have 750 rounds not 75 because it makes no fricking sense, 1200 RPM and 75 rounds? What the frick? Also it gets 2 magazines back vs the LMG which still only gets 1.
Quasar is ight, its basically an upgrade to the solo RR and spear users. Side grade to the EAT.
>Troost is a foggy forest shithole
Dropped, I only to play bot planets with 100% visibility and not having trillions of trees blocking my vision
Look at this little b***h too afraid of going to Vietnam.
>Just finished recharging my battery and defragging my hard drive
>Look up to the sky to see hundreds of ships exiting FTL
>mfw
>called heavy machine gun
>does not penetrate heavy armor
Super Earth is too cheap to use armor piercing bullets.
>heavy machine gun
I can hear it in my head
>HMG
BLESS UP FELLOW CITIZENS
Prepare for disappointment.
god dammit
>can deal with bugs just fine on any diff
>can't survive diff5 against bots
FRICK those metal gays
Bots are easier the higher up you go. They start replacing devestator spawns iwth hulks and tanks where are WAY easier to deal with.
Dive for cover and don't let yourself be surrounded, you newbie. Bring armor-piercing special. Learn when to run away. Use heights to your advantage.
Use cover and anti-armor, pussy.
>Use heights to your advantage.
I had a hulk phase through a 15 foot high rock to kill me. I really wish my shadowplay clip hadn't corrupted.
>I had a hulk phase through a 15 foot high rock to kill me.
What I mean by use your heights is that you have aiming advantage. You have to kill bots quickly or else they'll overwhelm you. Do not fight a hulk unless you know you can kill it quickly. Their eyes are their weakpoints. All bots have them. Learn to aim quickly at them.
>What I mean by use your heights is that you have aiming advantage
Oh, I know. I was on top of the rock.
bring a shield
bring a ballistic shield
use the SMG
use padded armor
go full turtle if you can't handle the laser rave.
i hate this beautiful planet
get your ass off hellmire and to vandelon soldier
what are you a pussy ass b***h? a little baby man who can't handle a few tin cans?
We already liberated vandalon, dumbass. We're working on troost.
>player base already can't handle bots
Wait until the lasers are blue and your controls are reversed
>Helldive 10
>Enemies hp is doubled
There now everyone is happy stop b***hing
>adjusting enemy or player stats
missing the point, this isnt like those warhammeer rpg shit coop games
>new mg
underwhelming
>new laser bazooka
amazing
new MG is great because it's finally the medium armor piercing MG that the regular MG should be
Why does the new machiniegun have so little ammo?
Who knows. At the very least all of the machine gun strats should have 3 mag capacity. Stalwart has something like 400 round mags doesn't it? LMG has 150 and mag capacity gets cut down to 2 and then the HMG mags get cut in half again. But with the HMG you also have to ADS to get a crosshair.
The fall off seems a little steep.
Because the developers hate us.
Quasar just made the game easymode. Shit's ruined.
devs should go the opposite direction on team reload. you want to use ac, rr, or spear? have to use team reload only. they are meant to be crew served weapons. get friendly with your squad.
That would just mean no one uses them
The only reason people use the Autocannon and RR in the first place is you don't need to team reload them. If you had to, they would immediately go on the shelf and everyone would just bring EATs and railguns in their place.
We've fricking told people for ages the solution is to let other players rearm off of your backpack. No one listens, or they don't know how to code it.
It really is THAT FRICKING SIMPLE
Another player should not have to sacrifice their gameplay style or backpack slot, just to make my weapon usable
>We've fricking told people for ages the solution is to let other players rearm off of your backpack.
This. It's not even immersive or realistic for the other player to need the backpack either. Think about it. What's easier:
>Person standing behind you pulls ammo out of YOUR back pack that is directly in front of them and in easy access for their arms to reach.
>person standing behind you pulls ammo out of THEIR backpack that is behind them and they cannot even see and have to contort their arms to get to.
Makes no sense at all to require another teammate to have the backpack to team reload.
Goddamn it, I’m a Recoilless Chad and it sounds like I just got replaced by the new hotness. Time to never use it just to piss off meta Black folk. Also why can’t I just use the HMG without being forced into the ADS? You should be able to lay down and have the reticle appear on your screen instead if you want to force MGers to use the ground for stability.
>Goddamn it, I’m a Recoilless Chad and it sounds like I just got replaced by the new hotness.
IMO Recoilless may be obsolete but EAT's are still goat for one reason: There's a charge up on the bazooka. I almost rather have an EAT that I can fling two shots at the enemy instantly than a single charge up shot even if I don't need to call it in.
That said I think Recoilless still has its uses because it's instant fire as well.
As an EAT chad dont forget its hidden power. EAT seems to stick to chargers, so call EATs down ontop of a charger, it will track them, drop onto them and kill them, then yuou still get 2 shots.
EAT is secretly a pocket rail canon.
i hate this so fricking much
You hate my beloved weapon being replaced or the HMG being ADS?
Climbing on the resupply
same, brother
I've done it at least 500 times
Wasn't the argument that the rail gun needed to be nerfed that it supposedly one shotted Bile Titans?
Didn't it turn out that was due to cross play bugging the game and its still possible to one shit a bile titan if there are PS5 players in your game?
Doesn't this logically mean that nerfing the rail guy was pointless and just made the gun worse for no reason, because the rail gun was never the actual problem that was "trivializing the game" in the first place?
These are honest questions, I never used the rail gun pre need, so I genuinely don't know
>Wasn't the argument that the rail gun needed to be nerfed that it supposedly one shotted Bile Titans?
No, it was nerfed because it was a catch all weapon that did everything with literally no draw back.
It could be left in safe more and core hulks, chargers, devestators, everything.
The only nerf they did was make it so that you need to over charge it to pierce heavy armor, over charge still does the same amount of damage.
>over charge still does the same amount of damage.
Not sure I believe that only because at what point of overcharge does it do that amount of damage? At like 99% overcharge?
It doesn't really penetrate heavy armor anymore anywhere below 90% and thats IMO way too long. way better to just take EATs now and you get the same effect.
There is a little line on the charge meter once it crosses it you are good. It will still one shot a hulk and 1 shot devestators. It also reloads on the move, has 20 shots, no backpack either.
Before it was filling the role of AT weapons like the RR and EAT, now its more like a bigger version of the AMR. Which is what it should be.
>devs release strong weapon before they release stronger enemies
>autistic people cry about it
Like is it a gatekeeping thing? maybe take a break for a bit to calm down
I'm a RR main and I'm upset my ability to 2 shot BTs was taken from me, and given to the Quasar Cannon
>taken
That's a weird way of saying shared.
It can 2 Tap BT's again?
I swear there was a good week or so where it took 3 or more to the head
Prior to that 2 shots were consistent (if a bit easy)
>RR was nerfed because it was the only weapon that could deal with all the armor the game spammed
Quasar is probably too strong with its infinite ammo but that's easily fixed with longer charge time/ longer cooldown time
IMO Quasar would be fine if it had 3 ICE canisters like the other energy weapons that it ejected each shot.
At least then it's not constant flow of endless shooting.
>fine
Black person, you just described a shittier recoilless rifle with only 3 shots AND having to charge up before shooting
Nah, RR requires a backpack. It's the same reason they nerfed the railgun: Better RR that requires no backpack.
Quasar having a 3 shot limit refillable by ammo packs while also not taking a pack slot seems fair.
With an ammo pool that small you may as well take the EAT instead.
I don't think they can meaningfully nerf the Quasar in a way that doesn't ruin the concept. If you give it ammo, you're either reinforcing the idea that it's a better RR (no backpack, and you can take the supply backpack for much better ammo reserves), or a worse EAT (if you only get get 1-2 shots).
What they need to do is buff the RR in a way that gives you a reason to use it instead. The foremost thing would be letting anyone reload-assist you from your own ammo backpack, rather than forcing them to equip it. But the RR should probably get twice as many missiles back from ammo/supply packs as it does now, or even have its overall capacity increased.
The only way to meaningfully nerf the Quasar without it becoming just a better/worse version of another weapon like you said is to increase the time it takes for it to charge. But as a side note, make it so releasing the button doesn't instantly empty your charge back to zero, so you can essentially "edge" the weapon until you want to actually fire it, but with no visible way of telling when its close to firing you run the risk of an early shoot and now have to wait until its done cooling down.
I unironically think the better way to adjust it would be to let people start charging another shot before it cools down, so you can actually burn out heat sinks if you aren't careful, the same as other laser weapons.
its already too slow a charge on high difficulties, when you got 3+ elite robots bearing down on you, you're lucky to get off 1 shot before taking damage from one of the others, its a great opener and finisher weapon, and great for sniping elites from a long distance, but so was the autocannon.
Important to remember that a lot of the initial reviews for the quasar cannon probably come from Vandalon, which was cold and so made it cool down faster.
Nah I was on the new bot planet who's name I forgot and it's temperate, it's kickass for hulks and turrets, also necessary because it has atmospheric interference, so EATs take twice as long to come down.
Which stronger enemies?
He means the luminate
You'll be glad you have the supaop Quasar Cannon when they add this fricking thing.
What the frick is that!?
Your mom.
An oversized hulk mounted onto a tank, weapons are either;
Left arm - Autocannon or Flamethrower
Right arm - Machine Gun or Grenade Launcher
Oh and it literally shits out stratagem jammer turrets while it drives around.
>big ass bosses on third person rather than top down
I'm genuinely scared how bugged they will fricking be
I'm already being sent flying by dead Bile titans body
>mg you can reload while moving
>mg you can only reload while stationary
>mg with just two mags
pick one
It's MG with two mags that has the penetration of the autocannon, that's a big difference.
If you're playing with a PS5 player, Bile Titans still take two Railgun shots to the head to die. If you're playing solo then they take 13 shots instead.
Reminder that the railgun nerf was made solely because of this bug making the weapon seem busted when in reality it wasn't, and yet the bug still exists.
This unironically shifts my opinion of the nerf quite heavily.
This.
Railgun was simply neutered. People say "IT'S JUST THE SAME OVERCHARGED" because they play on baby mode with PS players.
Railgun was nerfed because it 1-shot almost every enemy in the game and also destroyed certain objectives with zero drawbacks. There was no reason to bring anything else. I can’t believe people are still crying about the nerf. Move on.
I will now disengage from the samegay obsessed with trannies
idk what his problem is, but I sure hope he gets over his obsession
I never think about trannies.
>HMG doesn't have corsshair
>3x75 ammo capacity
it's ass
better breakout the ammo pack, buster brown
i don't get why you would do this when autocannon is there tho
that's the biggest flaw, i thought it would be like autocannon penetration but lets me take a shield or rover.
Yeah its pretty fricking bad...welp...guess ill keep using the GL+Sickle+Backpack...
Set it on low RPM, helps a bit with recoil and ammo conservation
You DID get Max Samples, Requisitions and Medals, right Anon..?
A chinaman did that for you. I know this to be true anon...
NTA but I capped out on Requisition/Samples/Medals three weeks after release.
Frick I got triple told...
Give it to me straight brohs, am I a shitter?
If you have a job no otherwise yes
You probably just play less. I had about 180 hours in after the first month.
Yeah probably. Most people are not good at the game. Most people only play the game below level 5. If you wanna redpill on this.
Only like 59% of the community has killed a bile titan. Let that sink in.
fricking 41% of the player base has not fought or killed a BT.
I'd call bullshit but when I dropped down to 4 to grind commons, the players I was basically threw me a parade when I trivialized their BT...
Yeah people underestimate the number of dad gamers out there who don’t want to play games seriously and just want to kill bugs for an hour or two while drinking PBR after their 10 hour shift at the hardware store.
Also while I know HD2 isn’t hard for people who have played plenty of games, for the average person it is very difficult. The mechanics of the game, even down to dropping full magazines, avoiding friendly fire, or using different weapons for different situations, are very complex for people who have pretty much only played shit like COD and FIFA.
Also to add to this.
Less then 20% of the people on steam have actually finished a extreme difficulty or higher without dying.
The achievement is for finishing an extreme difficulty or higher mission without ANYONE dying. I completed a mission with randos yesterday with 0 deaths, most kills, and most samples extracted, but all of my teammates died at least once and I didn't get the achievement
NTA but im capped its not hard once you unlock it all.
Yeah but its still dog shit. Regular MG is better and the regular MG is shit.
Believe me or not but I didn't get a Chink's "help", only grinded like a pig
I capped everything in the first 2 weeks. No Chinese, no mortar farms. I just can’t stop playing the game. I played HD1 for years so my hype was immeasurable already and then HD2 delivered on it behind my wildest expectations.
Thank you for being a loyal fan of HD1 (kind of bitter yall didnt invite me to ur sekrit top down club but s'alright), HD2 is one of my favourite games of all times
No its not recency bias, this game has orbital strikes and Bioshock 2s in my top 10 basically only because of its drill dash.
Thank you for protecting super earth before me
>yall
>reddit larp
You guys have an entire site filled with your cringe shit and you still come here
>wah wah stop having fun a bloo bloo
If that frick didn't give Arrowhead money I wouldn't be playing this game lol
I also wouldn't be dickriding him if this was tied to me in the long term
Go back to redit you stupid larping frick. This general goes to shit when we don't gatekeep from you reddit fricks. Jesus Christ the entire subreddit does cringe larp go there. Stay there.
Sorry pal, I couldn't recognize a reddit post if I tried
Seeing as I don't use that site, and have only ever used this one to post online
Like it or not, I'm home grown autism and you will never get rid of me you grumpy curmudgeon.
>yall
>larping about ebin super earth
you going to call me "my guy" next you stupid reddit frick? People like you ruin every god damn community.
You are an exhausting person.
The cynicism doesn't make you wise or cool, especially when you suck at cold reading people.
I'm some caricature you've made up in your head that browses reddit, larps incessantly, and "ruins communities"
You've guessed completely wrong and are currently baby raging at a Super Earth shitpost.
If you told me you copy and pasted this post from reddit I would believe you. Holy frick you aren't from here.
You're trying too hard.
No one on this site has a profile with a "date joined" attached dum-dum.
Doubling and tripling down on this screams newbie. Calm down, and lets talk about the fun game maybe?
Why do strangers offend you so much? Ganker isn't a special place, buddy.
>general
yeah, you're right. you're one of the schizos that would reside in a /vg/ thread
I would take 1000 of those schizos over 1 reddit larping frick like you
KEK you really havent been in a /vg/ thread, have you? you're newbie is showing
>eliteBlack folk already crying skill issue
>shitters shitting up by crying meta and "too powerful"
>joel has not fricked with my game progress once in a whole month
it's official
you're all a bunch of Ultramid migrant troons that wish to do nothing but steer this game back to the meta-slaving, shitty charger on level 4 spamming state it was in a month ago
I only barely got to level 20 two weeks ago, finally getting access to a weapon that can deal with them
:3 you can bet your shattered kneecaps i won't let it go back even if it means hellbombing sweden
Are you still using the railgun or did you switch to something else? Was never a fan of the railgun myself (I always used the arc thrower on bugs), but ever since the change to charger armor I've been bringing the RR every time and it feela great.
How to fix the HMG
> 1 requires the user to wear a backpack ammo drum
> 2 no reloading, only has 999 rounds of ammo
there, fixed
I like the first option more
If you're giving it a backpack then I want a third person reticle, aiming it in first person is ultra AIDS.
the game's director was already talking about adding a gatling gun with an ammo drum just a few days ago
So it's been a couple of hours are any of these worth using?
>playing every night
>barely getting 20 supercredits each night
I don't want to pay for the battlepasses
Then don't.
That'll be $20 for solving your problem.
Get better at finding them I guess, you know you can blow open the buried containers right?
>he doesn't know about the super credit exploit
>charging builds up heat even if you don't fire
>you can charge when above 0 heat
>overheating burns out the heat sink
There, now heat management matters but the quasar cannon isn't any weaker.
You can be that close to it if you are prone? lol
Now you understand why 500kg can't kill shit. The actual explosion radius is like 50 times smaller than it looks like.
500kg bomb moment.
Is this game strictly 4-player coop? I got exactly 1 friend only.
No, but it plays best with 4. You can play with your friend plus two randos though.
TAKE OFF
Making the quasar cannon too weak to one-shot hulks and chargers would mean it isn't worth taking, due to the low rate of fire and charge-up time. But as it is, it's strictly better than the RR in almost every circumstance.
The solution, clearly, is to buff the RR. And also change how crew-assisted loading works so the wielder carries the backpack rather than the assistant.
The RR can already 1 shot hulks and chargers, how would you buff it any further? The enemies run away when they see you pointing the RR at them?
Letting the wielder carry the backpack for crew-assisted loading would already be a significant buff, because then you can have allies help out opportunistically rather than needing to premeditate it.
Beyond that, let the RR overpenetrate through chaff so they can't block your LoS to heavy targets, and let it recover twice as much ammo from ammo/resupply packs (2/4 instead of 1/2).
These two buffs alone would me cry, cum and shit myself.
The first buff is enough for me tbh
It would certainly do a lot, though I think the RR would still lag behind a bit. Maybe give it one or two more capacity.
I think it's okay to lag behind.
Make it so resupply gives 3 rockets instead of 2
I'm just gonna keep using the Autocannon. Quasar charges way too long to deal with multiple heavies at once, and HMG has a b***h of a kick.
WTF, I got stuck.
Is heavy armor a moron trap? Slow movement and no stamina in exchange for like a 1% damage reduction? this shit bugged or what?
the extra hp and armour are worth in eradication missions you know when get shot a lot and don't run much.
when the bikes and cars drop will be viable on other missions.
the spear is my favorite support weapon
works now?
It's mine too.
And.
No.
😀
Why are botdivers such useless cucks? at least bugchads get shit done.
Is the autocannon good? It kinda makes me just want to use EATs since things like chargers or whatever take a lot of shots. I'm probably missing their critical weakspots though, which seems mandatory to make the AC actually good.
yes the autocannon is top tier.
Always bring it with me for bots!
Never for bugs, the RR/EAT dabs on chargers harder
But on bots not only does everything have a head to blow up, all the big stuff has giant glowing weakspots that the AC can shred
The autocannon is my favorite weapon. It's extremely versatile. The only thing you can't do with it is kill a Bile Titan. Maybe you could with enough ammo, but don't bother. You can 2 or 3 shot a charger from the rear, though.
It can't pierce heavy armor, so if you want to oneshot things use EATs instead. You'll need to aim for weakpoints on those. However, it does stagger what it hits, its shots explode, letting you seal nests/factories, and it reloads relatively quickly and chambers lots of rounds. Against Chargers aim for its ass or the rear legs, not the head.
they need to fix the 500kg kill hitbox, i've more than twice seen it fall on top of a hulk and some bots for it to kill only one or two and leave the hulk and a little scout bot alive.
yep hulks can tank 500s if they drop in front
So the bile titan is supposed to be the ultimate bug right? Like it makes you go "oh shit" in every encounter, I don't feel the same way with hulks since I can just 1 shot railgun them in the eye, the same way you deal with every other automatons, so when do we get a bot that make your ass cheeks clench as hard as bile titans? No, the upcoming giant robot dog don't count.
Heavy and Rocket Devastators and I'm not kidding in the slightest
>So the bile titan is supposed to be the ultimate bug right?
for now, the boss mobs aren't in the game yet
For me it's the contrary, i shit myself when i see a flame Hulk but i think getting swarmed by four bile titans is a joke.
>So the bile titan is supposed to be the ultimate bug right?
until they release the hive lord
My cheeks are clenched in anticipation for worm delivery.
The analogue of bile titans are tanks/ifvs, not hulks. Hulks are the equivalent of a charger, right down to having a glowing ass and a vulnerable forehead.
The quasar is a pure sidegrade to the EAT. It's far less accurate and the charge time is a severe penalty.
t. actually fricking used it
Its a pure upgrade if you're ranging out solo, but I reckon EATs are still overall better if you're sticking with the group and hunkering down for big fights, especially so if multiple people in said group also brought EATs as that completely nullifies its only weakness.
On the other hand it's always with you and has a faster cooldown.
I think the Quasar is in a good place relative to EATs. The problem is mostly that it invalidates the RR, but that speaks more to the glaring problems with the RR.
What's the best orbital/eagle/whatever stratagem to kill big armor enemies? Aside from the 500kg of course. I'm still a low level
When you get the stun grenade the orbital precision strike works well enough.
EAT(chargers)/Quasar(titans) > 500kg(titans) > rocket pods(both) > railcannon(both) > orbital laser(both)
Depends on what you're fighting. If bugs the EAT oneshots Chargers, but the Machine Gun works too if you magdump into its ass. If bots use the anti-material rifle and aim for weakpoints.
airstrike, rocket pods, railcannon, super laser piss, autocannon and rocket sentries
Eagle airstrike is the best eagle strat.
You can get it early and it's the one thing that you'll want to bring to every game.
Orb Laser is the best against bots, mid against bugs.
If they dont fix the crashing the game will die in at least 2 weeks
>complain that enemies are unfun to fight against
>"uhh, the game is designed to be unfair towards the player to get a meatgrinder experience"
>new weapon is leagues above the others
>"no you can't nerf it, buff everything else"
Which one is it shills?
>HMG
Yeah this weapon is just not good.
>75 rounds suck and makes the 1200RPM option completely useless
>no aiming reticle is an inconvenience just for the hell of it
>Complete junk red dot site with zero effort put in
>Kicks like a fricking mule
>Stronger than the other MGs but due to the insane recoil, shit sights, and constant need for short bursts on a slower rof it's doesn't feel any stronger than full auto accurate fire from the others.
The slight more armor pen it has over the regular first MG is not worth all of the downsides which is an issue in itself due to the Stalwart already being better than the MG.
>75 rounds
Yeah, this just sucks. I'll never pick it up again. If I'm reloading as much as I'm shooting then frick it.
but I really did not like how weak the stalwart felt......
>stalwart
>slugger
>EAT
There. You're covered.
This is one of my go to loadouts vs bugs. Then the inverse of it as well
>Sickle
>GL
>EAT.
>equip the revolver
>hey this isn't so bad, I can use it on medium enemies to compensate for the sickle's lack of armor penetration!
>press reload
lmao never using that again
Dont worry speed loaders were leaked.
It's a secondary.
It's probably the best secondary on bots since you can one tap devastators to the face.
Just remember to count your shots.
>he can't comprehend the thrill of reloading a revolver in the middle of battle
>doesn't kill anything
>super earth has never heard of a moon clip or speedloaders
It's such a massive piece of shit and I can't fricking wait for the grenade pistol so I can stop using the same machine pistol after 120 hours.
if only the starter pistol used a more powerful cartridge or something so the smg wouldn't be just across the board, total upgrade in all aspects.
level 4
>comfy missions
>get 2k credits easy money
level 5
>borderline suicide missions
>no fun allowed
>still only 2k credits for working 10x as hard
some bullshit
Level 9
>Filled with people who want to be there
>No one cares what you use because everyone assumes you know what your doing
>Everyone undersstands playing as a team
>Everyone pings
>Everyone calls out
>Every one knows not to be moronic with strats
Peak comfy in helldive.
>Mark an incoming hulk
>See three different explosion sources rain down on it as me and two others unload ordinance into its face
Feels good.
>Hulk gets tagged.
>One dude stuns it
>Another dude mail slots it with a rail gun
9 is the most comfy difficulty.
The frick are you smoking level 6 is literally "medium" difficulty and you can bring whatever meme loadouts you want.
It's like drg haz 4 when they tuned it a few years ago and it went from being haz3+ to AHHHHHHHHHH
iirc they tuned it back down again but it was bad for a month or two
Also idk if I'm the completely moronic one or pubbies in general are bad but I seem to struggle with d5 bots and I can't imagine how 6 or 7 would be doable with randoms
Can I macro stratagem calldowns because I'm too stupid to punch them in right when I'm trying to kite a bazillion devastators? Or will the anti cheat has me?
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Shit game
Not really sure why laser weapons get random spinning shapes around the cursor that indicate literally nothing about the heat level of the gun, forcing you to look at the corner of your screen. As far as I can tell the sickle triangle spins for fun.
What if radiator backpack for energy weapons that increases cooling rate?
.....I would be os ok with this.
>Radiator back pack
>Sickle
>Quasar
Oh yeah....we frickin now.
that's a good idea 🙂
Literally no reason to bring the HMG when the HMG emplacement exist, just call it in and drop heavy bots with zero recoil with triple amount of ammo
>b-but you can move around with the HMG
you literally need to stand still to even use it due to the insane recoil
HMG Turret really needs more ammo as well, ironically.
I don't see why not
CHOOSE YOUR BIOME
For me, it's not-Dagobah
>row 2 column 1
>row 3 column 2,5
>row 8, column 3
Those are my maps tbh.
If Klen Dahth 2 isn't a desert planet, I riot.
for me, it's Hellmire.
we don't get nearly enough brown dwarf porn in video games, and you can quote me on that.
fifth column - third row
>Stealth Oriented Anti-Rebel Missions, Solid Snake Style
first column - fourth row
>Mobility Oriented Run-n-Gun Branching Canyon with hidden cave tunnels in walls, Just Cause Style
Third Collumn, Last Row
>Trench Warfare oriented Mission that gives access to Roided Up Strategem Variants meant for obliterating entire portions of a map and allowing for sniper duels
>snowy forest
I want this shit so god damn fricking bad. Imagine it on a planet with a blood moon.
>mech equipped with both laser cannon and quasar
Bro yes, please frick yes
mech with infinite ammo? never going to happen
>mech with infinite ammo
>but it's only usable on Automaton maps
>mech equipped with both laser cannon and quasar
>but it's only on Automaton maps
Because it's an enemy
>Mech with 2 laser guns
>Should share a heatsink that the mech has equiped on its back.
>Firing eather builds up heat.
>Ifyou burn out a heat sink, it switches to the other heat sink
>Basically you only get 1 frickup with an over heat, if you frick up again, you are out of ammo.
>kill a hulk by shooting it in the eye
>can rip the heat sink off it's back to replace a spent one on your mech
letting mechs get resupplied by the resupply pack would save video games
Only way i could see that happening (which i doubt) is if overheating the weapon damaged the arms
>super earth will be playable but all the missions will be in the rain forests so it'll be more empty wasteland with random outposts instead of urban
>gay doomposting for no reason
>he doesn't know
Know that there was an obviously wrong alleged Super Earth map filled with alien flora?
Still not playing fash slop, sorry
>Foggy night map
>Literally can't see 10 ft past me
I'll waste a slot for some thermal goggles, please.
>Sensor Backpack
>Highlights all enemies within 75m so your team can see them in fog and similar weather. Also acts as a wallhack.
>what is UAV recon booster? Yes I'm trans, how can you tell?
The original UAV recon booster only improved your radar. You could retool it to highlight enemies and say it's tethered to a backpack, I suppose.
The most important decision of your life. Steeled Veterans or Cutting Edge?
both
Cutting Edge for the sickle. Incendiary grenade is nice though.
>Cutting Edge
That
cutting edge and its not close
Cutting edge is a better choice. it has the stun, the boring meta sickle, and localization confusion which is fantastic for bots.
>boring meta sickle
It's for people who liked the Liberator but wanted something a little better.
It's strictly superior to the liberator and every metagay who's back on their bullshit with the cuck bubble and arc thrower is also using the sickle.
It's not just a little better, either. If you tell me the tiny spool up time and lack of a flashlight means it's a sidegrade I'm calling you a Black person.
It's definitely better but it's not replacing the Breaker, the Defender, the Slugger, or the Scorcher. The Liberator was lacking by comparison and this was the boost needed to make an assault rifle have parity.
I like the spread, I like the warmup, I like the heat buildup. It feels like a proper blaster rifle.
>everyone talking shit about arc throwers while sucking off their rail gun
>suddenly everyone realizes arc thrower is strictly for chads
>rail gun babies HATE it
jetpacking away from your post, lol. charging my arc thrower while I do it, lmao.
BRRRRAAP
>complains about a weapon because it's "boring"
>uses the booster that reduces the amount of combat in the game
? ? ?
I like the armors Steeled Veternas have, the robot arm prosthesis is cool. But the Sickle from Cutting Edge is very good.
>turn on crossplay
>FPS stolen
I swear it goes down by like 20 and crashes occur more often too.
nice
i want a gun that does low damage but ragdolls enemies backwards
the explosive primaries do that already
yeah but i kind of want a wind blast type effect
the Liberator Concussive was made for you
How about traps? That should be a new category of stratagem. Pitfalls, springboards, tar; just turn the game into Orcs Must Die.
byeah thats basically the gist of it
feel like it would be a fun addition
the people on 9 do more and frick you over less
They're fricking stupid if they don't ad traps. Shit would be so fun.
>mission 3/3 for final difficulty unlock
>game crashes
the new weapons suck
>3rd machine gun
>not even a mini-gun/gattling gun
>no laser mg
missed opportunity
The quasar is good. The hmg isn't worth the tradeoffs compared to mg/stalwart.
when do you think they'll add the next major faction?
this game is optimized like fricking absolute steaming hot shit, they are lucky the game is fun in general because this is really bad
Why are difficulties 7 and 8 more hard than 9? I thought 9 was supposed to be hard since it's the highest atm?
Because shiteating morons play below 9
The best players stick to 9.
You still get people that aren't filtered out of diff 7 and 8. The number of people who told me they knew nothing about fighting bots at those diffs in the last few days has been astounding.
The games biggest problem right now is actually that mission/planet modifiers all suck because they boil down to anti-fun garbage
There's literally only 3 categories
>you can't see shit
>your stratagems suck absolute dick or can't even be used
>actually interesting stuff like fire tornadoes
Stuff like intense heat/cold is barely noticeable meanwhile
Design some
>increased enemy aerial presence
The map has a few aerial patrols of shriekers and whatever they give automatons. Maybe an extra nest too.
>enemy training grounds
Significantly fewer heavy enemies, significantly more lighter ones. Good opportunity to bring different support weapons.
>planet nearly conquered
Spare destroyers are nearby and will occasionally send you a random support weapon/ammo drop/backpack. Will you fill your slots with more orbital support and hope you get sent something good?
>SEAF presence
Objectives have a few friendly NPCs nearby who will board a pelican when their objective is complete. Earn extra rewards by keeping them alive.
I like the idea of planetary modifiers being either detrimental to both sides or positive to both. Examples:
>cold modifier makes cyborgs and bugs movement slower
>increased stratagem cooldown=less bot drops because everyone is scrambled
Stuff like that. But your suggestions are also great. Modifiers like +100% (cooldown, etc) are lame as frick. They don’t make the game more interesting, they make it tedious.
>Modifiers like +100% (cooldown, etc) are lame as frick. They don’t make the game more interesting, they make it tedious.
I agree, but it would be pretty easy for the devs to add new, more fun ones so I'm hopeful for the future.
>Design some
Okay, but specifically to replace the shitty ones that we already got.
>High Density Clouds
Due to the cloud cover, your dreadnought has a harder time detecting your beacons. Increased calldown time for Orbital Strikes.
>Extreme Turbulence
High winds are causing some difficulty for Eagle-1. All Eagle Strikes have increased cooldowns and rearm times.
>Weapons Mandate
Command has mandated the use of experimental upgrades. Stratagem slots reduced by 1, but everyone gains access to a specific Orbital/Eagle Strike with upgraded stats (reduced cooldown/increased barrage count/increased stocks/reduced delay).
you guys are lucky. my shit-frick friends only play WoW and apex and they got into an argument over apex and now i have to hang out with them separately whether IRL or in-game. bunch of homosexualS
people who get all in their feelings over video games arent worth your time
>why is the new late game weapon better than the early game one????
Really, Black folk?
just finished my first level 7 operation, i think i'm decent
should i move on to 8?
we lost because the extraction shuttle clipped through the ground
>we lost because the extraction shuttle clipped through the ground
Extracting is optional, you win by completing the main objective 🙂
Aren't EATs strictly better than the quasar?
you can just plop down and EAT wherever you want every minute
>2 a minute
vs
>6 a minute
No, EAT and Quasar are side grades to each other, and really is about what do you want sustained fire over a longer period of time? Or do you want high burst. Its a dealers choice there.
The quasar is a direct upgrade to the RR or the Spear if you are running those weapons solo with their back packs.
I haven't played in a while. Has the recoilless rifle been buffed? I loved that shit, but the EAT was basically better in every way.