>Here's your rich, deep RPG skill tree bro.
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skill trees are some of the biggest memes in vidya design
>infinite customization bro!
in reality skill trees tend to have 1-2 builds, three if you're lucky and anything else is unredeemable garbage
You homosexuals lost the sight of what's important. These skill trees didn't just come out of nowhere. homosexual consumers enjoy them for some reason. What's with the average consumer enjoying these perce4yngyantage based perks instead of unique ones?
>perce4yngyantage
the average video game consumer has room temp IQ are probably can't actually understand what the percentage increases change beyond "bigger number = better" (hint, nothing because the game is probably so easy it doesn't matter), nevermind understanding unique descriptions.
There's a reason the most successful games in the world are just storefronts with an interactive UI
>homosexual consumers enjoy them for some reason.
Is not backed up by anything you said anon. Something being tolerated doesn't mean it's enjoyed, and something being prevalent doesn't mean it's good.
These things came during the everything must be an RPG-lite era of the 2000's, they were copied and kept around because they are easier to make then unique perks and still allow devs to throw random level up bars into every aspect of their game.
>What's with the average consumer enjoying these perce4yngyantage
Blame MMOs
>10% chance to increase damage by 5% for 6 seconds after a critical hit
Shit like that
The real reason is because theres no use developing a rich skill system or anything of the sort because meta gays on the internet will make 2-3 viable builds and call the res unoptimal and then Black folk will parrot that.
You could argue midwits don't know how to build so they see it as a cornucopia of choice.
so basically, max out scanning ASAP
looks like it. The rest are "make combat a bit easier" but knowing Bethesda it'll already be pretty easy
why, so you can mine rocks all day? I'm 100% sure there's a way to inevitable break the trade system and get infinite money like every bethesda game
Snoy cope thread
Rent free.
its fine mods will fix it
mods still haven't fixed the stat casualization in skyrim or fallout 4
MODS WILL FIX IT
MODS WILL FIX EVERYTHING
GLORY TO TODD
>Robotics
Illusion for one enemy type
>concealment
Skyrim sneak
>Medicine
FO4 Medic
Bravo Todd bravo
>Illusion for one enemy type
Deus Ex did this
>Skyrim sneak
So? Two games can't have sneaking? Skyrim didn't revolutionize the concept of stealth builds.
>FO4 Medic
Refer to above but for medicine. You can't stop him.
You can't spoil me homosexual
so this is what the army of microsoft pajeets are trying to get you to buy
EPIC!
Here’s your base building bro
I wish they wouldn't waste time on settlement building
Ss long as its not as painful as FO4 then I'm good. But who are we joking, it's bethesda
>put 1 skill point out of 15 received by leveling up into skill X to 0.5% more damage with Y and unlock the ability to choose a perk based on the skill's level between 1-100
OMG SUCH DEEP RPG SYSTEMS!!!
>put 1 skill point you receive by leveling up into skill X to deal 10% more damage with Y + an extra effect for maxing the skill at rank 4
NOOOOOOOO IT'S SO SHALLOW NOW
glad we can agree on that
>numbers provide a numerical value
imagine?
Starfield is No Man's Sky but with shit framerate, extra loading screens, and none of the actual useful quality of life capabilities the other game has, despite having a blank check, and prone to 10x the bugs. It's a game made for mediocre people, who have mediocre standards and mediocre skills and abilities.
>no longer set off mines after one single sneak perk
wat
>trivialize a component of the game in one perk
bravo todd
Wow, Robotics skill in Starfield? How cool. I wonder what we'll get. A robot minion? Maybe attack drones? Unique robot companions? Robot crafting?
>Todd: You get 10% extra damage to robots
can you read you illiterate, moronic Black person?
>lvl 1
you can stop a robot from attacking you
>lvl 2
you can make the robot flee from you
>lvl 3
you can get a robot to fight for you
>lvl 4
you can totally dominate a robot and order it around
homosexual
>you can totally dominate a robot and order it around
I don't think that it's because Skyrim sold gangbusters and they got lazy. I think it's like Bioware. Yes, EA was breathing down their neck, but so many people just...retired after Origins. I think it's the same thing with Bethesda. Oblivion and Skyrim are more than a decade old, all the talent retired because they're 55 or 60 and are millionaires. What we're left with is diversity hires.
The sneak perks always end up being so fricking OP. It shouldn't have that high of a multiplier. But either than that nothing wrong these perks they look balanced. I would probably max out scanning first because I want to max out my resources to make shit later on.
>But either than that nothing wrong these perks they look balanced
How about they are as generic as possible and shows that the design philosophy towards perks is seemingly +10% efficiency, which is always fricking boring and a lie when used to call something a "build" in a game where all builds play the same.
>Here's your rich, deep RPG skills bro
concealment seems completely broken and overpowered.
stealth archer always is
>here's perk that gives light step and sneak crits on just rank 1
>here's medicine perk, just put +10% on healing items I don't know, frick it
>do same shit for robots or whatever
Great job Todd.
if you're lucky maybe you can save an npc via a conversation Medicine perk check.
>stealth archer
God damn it Todd you did it again
Stealth space archer? Hell yeah boys, got my build planned already
Man, compared to Baldur's Gate 3, this is baby shit
Bro like a ton of feats are broken or bugged. Same with class passives and skills. We're on hf4 with massive cut content a shit ending no boob sliders the worst character creator since 1996.
Really? Ive had problems with quest lines and shit but I've not noticed any bugged feats
Polearm mastery as an example of what I found today btw. The amount of quests bugged especially if you don't do things in a linear fashion breaks the game. Just today laezel bugged out after talking to zorru for the map to creche. She wouldn't talk about it after I moved towards wyll. The numberous cutscenes glitches and bugs. Act one is rife with issues in EA the longest. The scene where you play a song for the driver no instrument. Lots of jank.
All RPG are like this.
The only problem with Starfield's system is that the perk description isn't flowery enough for y'all.
Weak shill post
>Starfield confirmed flop
>AC6 flopping currently
>TOTK lazy and uninspired BOTW DLC
Yeah I am thinking BG3 is guaranteed GOTY.
Yep, I'm thinking it's kino time
I hope you can make an orbital bombing build.
That sounds fun.
>Bombs go through a loading sequence and touch down gently on the planet
This game isn't No Man's Sky or Star Citizen, space-to-planet and even entering buildings you are greeted with a loading screen. Base building is ripped right from 4, did you expect a new engine and mechanics?
>did you expect a new engine
that's what they claimed
fable had the best skill tree. no i will not elaborate.
>Bethesda game releases
>slopologists say it's fine that it's shit because it's popular and mods will fix it
Like clockwork
starfield doomposter always give me a good chuckle. as the game will sweep all year end game awards and outsell all bethesda games. you tards can piss all over yourselves all you want but at the end of the day sales is king and this game is going to frickin fly off the shelves
>forgetting that Tears of the Kingdom, Hogwarts Legacy, Cyberpunk 2.0, new Minecraft, Diablo 4, FF16, Ass Creed, Spider-Man all release(d) this year, all titles that mog Oblivion in Space With Guns
>new Mario, Space Marine and Modern Warfare coming soon as well
bruh i don't think fallout citizen's sky is grabbing the title this year
I don't remember them saying it was a deep rpg skill tree, tho? Is this another fake "TODD LIED" threads?
When I see these skill progressions, it sparks no joy, no creativity. Even Civilization VI, a glorified mobile game about numbers going up, at least makes me want to try different synergies because there are fun interactions between the basic bonuses and more complex or distinct ones.
>Spamming recon units with the % modifier to recon unit production policy, then switching to the x2 exp. for recon units policy, then building terracotta army to to get a free promotion for all my recon units so they get that massive combat strength boost that's usually impossible to get
>settling all of my cities within range of a floodplain delta, using 3 different cities' infrastructure to build one super-productive industrial zone surrounded by dams and aqueducts, multiplying its productivity with policy cards, and building Ruhr Valley for that fat % modifier to all production
Just as an example. Bethesda's progression system just doesn't give that same feeling, because there's no real opportunity cost to picking one perk over another, and every character can and will inevitably become a jack of most trades with no truly unique characteristics.
But the bigger issue is that they've apparently accepted this as the status quo despite how much people have clearly despised the gradual dumbing down of roleplaying elements in their games.
>and every character can and will inevitably become a jack of most trades with no truly unique characteristics.
If you get to level 400 sure.
I remember when bethgays were adamant about how the skills weren't +%stat. Kek
>Ordinator and Vokrii answered the question of how to properly do fun perks in a Bethesda RPG 6 years ago
>Bethesda proceeds to make Fallout 4 perks, but in space
Is it impossible to innovate at that company or something? There's probably no way you can actually suggest anything without a producer, investors, or, now, Microsoft hearing about you trying to change the golden goose.
the only perk I remember from ordinator is the musical performance one
Off the top of my head
>pickpocketing minigame
>lockpicking minigame
>reverse-pickpocketing the coin onto people
>skeever summons
>dwarven cannon
>unarmed sub-tree
>vancian magic
>weapon class perks for all melee trees
>combat archer
>elemental archer
>spellblade perks across multiple perk trees
>bard perks
>timed block perks
>turning homies into gold
>palpatine simulator
>blessings perks
>poison and decay sub-tree in restoration
>big fricking guy who buffs people with his mere presence perks
Lots of fun stuff
Good thing these are skills and not perks.
by the way there are 80 skills in Starfield with 4 levels of ranking each. I can guarantee you there are some interesting perks/abilities there. We already know we can mind control aliens, for instance. Or if we upgrade the hand-to-hand we get a % chance to knock someone out cold. If you level up the ascension skill, you get a power that slows down enemies relative to the speed you're moving at. There's a lot of skills we don't know about though.
No, it's 20 skills with 4 ranks.
16 skills per tree and 5 trees.
yeah there's a difference between not changing what's not broken and ignoring any feedback to improve on what you have.
I just want to turn Vasco into an unstoppable death-bot
It's Bethesda, who the frick expected any depth? These morons removed the word encumbered from fallout 4 because it was too complicated.
>encumbered
I didn't know what that word meant when I was 13 so staggered my way between the school and Megaton because I thought it was due to the cripple mechanics
stealth archer bros we are so fricking back
>10x damage with no drawbacks
>able to take out huge crowds by pressing the crouch button and watching the AI go full moron
peak bethesda gameplay
That's melee. Ranged only gets 4x.
realistically, it'll probably be even more broken than melee with a sniper and multiplicative headshot damage
Stealth archer build looking good boys.
it's so fricking over. I paid $100 + tax + tip to play THIS shit 5 days early?
>It's literally just Fallout 4 perks
I've yet to see anything convincing to get me to renew my faith in Bethesda. I've been begging in these threads for weeks now to see something new and this is it?
lol
lmao
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Is that todd howard?
That homie has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked starfield raw in a memphis section 8 apartment on my xbox series X. That game had to be the biggest, deepest, most expansive video game I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is flying my space ship while going fist deep into his game. I had todd howard screaming with the leaks with gameplay too ridiculous to ignore. That homie raged until he sued me, I had to return the favor. That homie todd howard and I been beefing non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" todd howard, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Steal his game, play it early, leak that shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass homies either. He likes his men manly, and his leaks thick. Dark skin, 3 weeks is the minimum and I ain't talking about playtime boy.
That homie todd howard stole my xbox account and sued my heart..
>incremental % boosts again
NOOO TODD I TRUSTED YOU! YOU SAID IT WAS DIFFERENT THIS TIME
There's nothing inherently bad about this.
Even fallout new vegas had this in the skill points which incrementally increased your proficiency.
It seems this time around its a mix of percentage increases mixed with unique abilities.